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|06-01-2013 10:45 PM|
What is the retina distance for a 65" tv?
|05-12-2013 04:50 AM|
Are you guys also out to tell me that there's no reason to get a 120hz monitor vs 60 because the human eye can't "detect" a difference? lmao.
I must be making up the difference in my mind with my 120hz monitor for gaming just as I am 4k resolution. Damn u tricky mind! Damn u.
|05-11-2013 10:34 PM|
just wait for the 5+ generation of 4K before getting rid of your 1080P tv
|05-11-2013 03:17 PM|
I'll just leave this here
However this guy mentioned that the vga that's on this tv could display 4k ...
|05-10-2013 08:32 PM|
|magicfame||My dad's tv can beat up your dad's tv.|
|05-10-2013 08:26 PM|
I have seen the 4K display playing a flashdrive of 4K material at Best Buy
quite frankly..last years XBR950 full array back lit with local dimming is a better TV than the unit I saw at best Buy
and I said earlier the Sharp Elite is better than both of them
Perhaps I would have a better impression if the TV was a full array with local dimming...but that would be a $12K Tv probably
based on what I saw I would say Sony is setting them selves up to lose money once again on their Tv business in 2013
$7K for that TV...seriously?...edge lid LED....
I think what they missed was that the Tv is going to have to show 1080P( and lower) better than anything else to be bought in any numbers
there are TV's that are less than half of the price that spank it in 1080P
The TV I saw on display at BB I am almost certain WILL NOT be in the top 5 of TV's that are 1080P capable
..in world where we have very limited 1080P with anything but blu ray...and that is like what 20%( of less) of what people watch
there might be a few that drop $7K for this to say that "I am first"
But they will also be the ones that have a second TV(panasonic VT60, ZT60 or samsung F8500..or a projector) that has a much better picture for the other 90% of their viewing
|05-10-2013 07:59 PM|
I don't know why I keep arguing with people who haven't seen 4k in person. I promise you there is a huge difference in quality between a 50-65 inch 4k screen running *native* 4k resolution vs 1080p.
Now.. ya this TV sucks and im sure the black levels are awful and the color is off especially out of the box. The red forums state once you get in to the service menu and calibrate it properly it looks good though. I'm not even saying you should buy this TV it's obviously a low end TV.. but on a discussion of 4K vs 1080p there is a huge difference. Compare a top of the line 4k Sony TV to a top of the line Sony 1080p TV and there *is* a difference.
|05-10-2013 07:52 PM|
from 8 feet away a person with 20/20 vision cannot tell the difference between 1080P and 4K
Now...the other issue
the TV in this thread is low end
I bet if you looked at say the new VT60..or Samsung F8500 vs this TV at 8 feet away you would prefer either of the 1080P displays...for color...black level and panel uniformity
for someone with the eyes on an eagle those would have to be paramount...
and that new Sony 4K...really...I saw it at BB for $7K..65"
I walked over to the Sharp Elite 70" and liked it better
there are big differences in full array with local dimming vs edge lit LED
I really want to know where the market is for a buyer who is going to send $7K for an edge lit LED
seriously?....with that color change in off angle viewing
|05-10-2013 03:15 AM|
|HexiumVII||how do you display 4k images on this with HDMI?|
|05-09-2013 06:16 PM|
But like I said who the heck sits 20 feet away from a 50 inch TV? 20 feet away you should be watching like a 150+ inch TV lol.
If you sit like a normal person from 6-8 feet away from a 50 inch 4k TV watching native 4k content you'll see a huge difference.
I'm not even advocating the purchase of this TV, I already stated my reasons why I wouldn't suggest buying it.. but I am in here to rebuttal the constant "4k is worthless u cant even see a difference look it's science" crap repeated constantly. There is a difference, anyone who has seen 4k content on 50-85" 4k TV's will tell you it's a significant one.
|05-09-2013 06:00 PM|
|05-09-2013 05:49 PM|
What I do know is I've seen 4k TV's in person and at a standard viewing length there is a significant difference. I've also seen 4k monitors in person and they are *amazing*. Wait til those hit the market at less than $30,000. You can see a *significant* difference in a 32 inch 4k PC monitor vs 1080p.
The problem is (like I stated) lack of 4k content. What I've seen demoed is true 4k content.. that's just not available yet. You can play 4k resolution PC games with this TV and you *will* see a significant difference in picture quality over 1080p at a standard viewing distance. Also considering games will be capped to 30 FPS it's not really recommended for that use.
Yes, this TV itself is not very high quality.. There's not many uses for it. One amazing use for it which doesn't get talked about is a 120hz refresh rate @ 1080p. This would make an excellent 50 inch 120hz 1080p monitor if somebody was looking for something like that. Although with that in mind.. I'd still recommend a 30 inch 1600p monitor off eBay from Korea for less money.
So to cap it up
A. I've seen 4k TV sets and 4k monitors in person at standard viewing distances and the difference is remarkable (given you have native 4k content in the first place)
B. The only 4k content readily available is PC gaming but you'll be capped at 30 FPS
C. The TV could make an excellent PC monitor @120 HZ 1080p resolution
D. If you are going for a monitor just get a 30 inch korean IPS 1600p display and save some money/get a better product
|05-09-2013 12:25 PM|
Of course there is significant difference in pixel density between 1080p and 4k. No one disagrees.
Problem is the human eye isn't perfect. If it was, microscopes and telescopes wouldn't exist. The human eye has limitations, and science knows these limitations well.
The science works out that the average person with 20/20 vision can only tell the difference between 1080p and 4k on a 50" television at distances under 6.5 feet.
You can test this yourself. Put your eyes next to your 1080p tv, and you will see individual pixels. Back up to 6.5 feet and I'm betting you don't see them anymore.
|05-09-2013 12:17 PM|
So you're saying someone who is legally blind, viewing the television from 20 feet away can discern the difference between a 4K set and a 1080p set?
|05-09-2013 07:35 AM|
Don't purchase this to replace your HDTV.
Do purchase this to replace your computer monitor.
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