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|07-23-2013 04:42 PM|
|Liquidus||Did your rebates for the $29 Win 7 bundle get validated? I only did the $4 Win 7 bundle and those are valid.|
|06-15-2013 11:39 PM|
|06-15-2013 11:36 PM|
|06-15-2013 10:13 PM|
|06-15-2013 01:05 PM|
|mky||Last day for the Win8 rebate is today. The Win7 rebate is valid for another week thru June 22 (details/links are in post #69).|
|06-14-2013 12:23 AM|
|06-14-2013 12:10 AM|
|06-13-2013 11:52 PM|
From a productivity and real WORK point of view, the new user interface is much slower to use (especially with a mouse), it is much more difficult to find applications and requires much more side to side scrolling and much more mouse movement. The old "All Programs" scroll view under Vista/Windows 7 was much quicker and more efficient -- you also did not lose the context of your desktop or application when you brought up the menu. Honestly, for myself, I still prefer the XP style cascading Programs menu -- I have all the applications grouped by function in a logical fashion where I can find the programs I need that I only use a few times a year.
Similarly, the reliance on doing a search is bad -- just because I know what the program DOES does not necessarily mean I remember the name of it. For this, a LOGICAL cascading start menu grouped by function makes much more sense. The same problem applies to the Ribbon UI in Office -- for simple, commonly used functions, it's easier to use, but for less frequently used functions, trying to find them can often be an exercise in frustration. Under the old Office 2003 paradigm, you could simply drill down LOGICALLY through the menu structure.
Other UI related issues abound throughout Window 8 -- and the abrupt changes from desktop to Modern/Metro and back are quite irritating (and not well thought out). The dichotomy between Control Panel and System Settings -- with functions spread willy-nilly between them, with no real rhyme or reason -- is one very obvious part of Windows 8 that clearly shows the UI's inconsistencies (and accentuates its "half-baked" feel).
The lack of visual clues is also a bit ridiculous (exactly ZERO of the users I support have figured out how to close a Modern/Metro program on their own -- I have had to show every single one of them how to do it).
The good news is, with StartIsBack or ClassicShell, you can disable the new UI very quickly.
|06-13-2013 11:30 PM|
The Windows 8 Metro/Modern UI is annoying, ugly, and awkward but is basically a trivial issue to fix.
For an average home user, Windows 8 (with a few patches applied) is not a bad OS.
It is fast, relatively stable, and quite functional.
From a business perspective, both Windows 8 and IE10 are horrendous nightmares.
1) SecureBoot and UEFI in general have already caused me no end of headaches on OEM machines that come preloaded with Windows 8. Doing backups and system repairs are now a royal pain -- and in many cases nearly impossible. Yes, you can do system "refreshes" without losing *data* -- but installed programs are lost. This is NOT acceptable.
2) I have already run into at least one virus that DOES infect the UEFI boot system on Windows 8 (guess what, I think they used a signed "shim" bootloader inside the virus). Getting said machine disinfected was a nightmare. The UEFI data storage area was basically hosed and I never was able to get a UEFI image working on the unit again. I finally just turned off Secure Boot & UEFI, set it for Legacy mode, and reinstalled Windows 7 Pro.
3) From a maintenance standpoint, have you seen the conniptions you have to go through to get into safe mode?
4) Similarly, to boot a recovery disk or utility flash drive to fix things generally requires disabling secure boot and switching back to Legacy mode at least long enough to work on things.
5) The loss of XP Mode in Windows 8 Pro is not a good thing -- way too much medical software STILL has problems with Windows 7. Yes, I can sort of run it via Hyper-V -- but not in a side-by-side way that is actually useful to my users.
6) IE10 -- yes, it is very secure. It is in fact so secure that a lot of websites simply will not work properly with it, even in Compatibility View. Unfortunately, a couple of our insurance billing sites fall into this category.
7) What utter idiot decided to remove the Wireless configuration utility????? Have you actually tried changing network priority levels or adding a non-broadcasting SSID? Yes, you can do it via "netsh wlan...", but that means that *I* have to do it -- there is no way any of my users are ever going to.
From a business perspective, Windows 8 is useless. Thankfully, all OEM Windows 8 Pro installs count as Windows 7 Pro downgrade licenses -- which is what has now been done to every PC with Windows 8 Pro we have purchased.
|06-13-2013 11:22 PM|
|06-13-2013 10:59 PM|
BRAVO, that clears up the mystery of the invoice showing a different item number. I'm in...SOLD. No need to convince the weak and easy.
|06-13-2013 10:54 PM|
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|06-13-2013 10:24 PM|
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