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Cookie21 01-07-2012 08:14 AM

Dell UltraSharp U2412M 24" Monitor with LED / 1920 x 1200 at 60 Hz $299 fs @ dell SB
 
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Dell UltraSharp U2412M 24" Monitor with LED [dell.com]

DISPLAY
Diagonal Viewable Size:
24" (60.96 cm) viewable area
Aspect Ratio
Widescreen (16:10)
Panel Type, Surface:
IPS (In-Plane Switching), anti glare with hard coat 3H
Optimal Resolution:
1920 x 1200 at 60 Hz
Contrast Ratio:
1000 : 1 (typical)
2,000,000:1 (dynamic)
Dynamic Contrast Ratio:
2 million:1 (Max)
Brightness:
300 cd/m2 (typical)
Response Time:
8ms (gray to gray) Typical
Max Viewing Angle (vertical/horizontal)
178º / 178º
Color Support:
16.7 million colors
Color Gamut
82% (CIE 1976)
Pixel Pitch:
0.27 mm
Device Type
Widescreen Flat Panel Display

CONNECTIVITY
1 Digital Visual Interface connectors (DVI-D) with HDCP
1 DisplayPort(DP)
1 Video Graphics Array (VGA)
1 USB 2.0 upstream port
4 USB 2.0 downstream ports
DC power connector for Dell Soundbar
STAND
Adjustability
Height-adjustable stand, tilt , swivel , pivot and built in cable-management
Flat Panel Mount Interface
VESA Mount

haywood68 01-07-2012 08:47 AM

You can get it directly from Dell on eBay for the same price and get 2% eBay bucks.

magicbullet 01-07-2012 08:49 AM

does dell still have the gift card deals?

bluewhackadoo 01-07-2012 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by haywood68 (Post 46695438)
You can get it directly from Dell on eBay for the same price and get 2% eBay bucks.

I think most of us don't get eBay bucks :( So I will one up you and say you can go through a certain unnamed cashback site that will make you fat in your wallet and get 5% cashback.

ddavidch 01-07-2012 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by magicbullet (Post 46695482)
does dell still have the gift card deals?

Will that even work with the small biz site?
You can't use a DPA to pay, you have to have biz credit line.

robertpaul100 01-07-2012 09:22 AM

$19 tax kills it for me, but the price is intriguing. If there was some kind of coupon to apply to this it could be slick.

bluewhackadoo 01-07-2012 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ddavidch (Post 46695684)
Will that even work with the small biz site?
You can't use a DPA to pay, you have to have biz credit line.

Gift cards work across all Dell divisions. DPA no.

musicman40nj 01-07-2012 09:36 AM

Didn't I just get this for $265 on onesaleaday brand new with shipping...
Also bought one with the camera deal for $360 and sold the camera for $85.

This is luke warm at best...

29er 01-07-2012 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluewhackadoo (Post 46695530)
I think most of us don't get eBay bucks :( So I will one up you and say you can go through a certain unnamed cashback site that will make you fat in your wallet and get 5% cashback.

"Fat in your wallet," too funny, had to rep for that quote. Hopefully they were able to catch on to your hint.

Quote:

Originally Posted by robstamack (Post 46696058)
$19 tax kills it for me, but the price is intriguing. If there was some kind of coupon to apply to this it could be slick.

$265 out the door the other day was the better deal, however I'd prefer to deal directly with Dell with a purchase like this. Unfortunately the 5% CB won’t cover my tax on this deal.

Quote:

Originally Posted by fvpawli (Post 46696298)
Didn't I just get this for $265 on onesaleaday brand new with shipping...
Also bought one with the camera deal for $360 and sold the camera for $85.

This is luke warm at best...

Okay, but that was then, this is now, so unless someone has a time machine it’s a moot point if they need it today. Furthermore, it's interesting how the first page of a thread is usually chocked full of non-value-added troll posts. ;)

Azndude51 01-07-2012 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 29er (Post 46696604)
Okay, but that was then, this is now, so unless someone has a time machine it’s a moot point if they need it today. Furthermore, it's interesting how the first page of a thread is usually chocked full of non-value-added troll posts. ;)

Yes, I didn't check SD in time and missed out on that deal. Yesterday, my 5 year old LCD crapped out on me so I REALLY need the new monitor now, so I might need to settle on this deal.

dreamliner77 01-07-2012 11:02 AM

Decisions, decisions. This or the Hanns 27.5"?

slowpokeG 01-07-2012 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by haywood68 (Post 46695438)
You can get it directly from Dell on eBay for the same price and get 2% eBay bucks.

I only see 329.99 from dell on ebay. Not the same price.

Indio22 01-07-2012 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 29er (Post 46696604)
Okay, but that was then, this is now, so unless someone has a time machine it’s a moot point if they need it today. Furthermore, it's interesting how the first page of a thread is usually chocked full of non-value-added troll posts. ;)

I don't think previous lower prices, especially recent prices, are a moot point. Not everyone must have a product today. It makes sense to examine some of the pricing history before making a purchase, and it is helpful to have some of that information included in a thread to help determine the slickness of a deal.

starcaptor 01-07-2012 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indio22 (Post 46698410)
I don't think previous lower prices, especially recent prices, are a moot point. Not everyone must have a product today. It makes sense to examine some of the pricing history before making a purchase, and it is helpful to have some of that information included in a thread to help determine the slickness of a deal.

Checking past prices is absolutely NOT MOOT...whats the point of a SlickDeal if it doesnt fare well against lower past prices which have shown up several times, and recently at that? This monitor has been $265 to $270 several times...if you are comparing a deal to Black Friday, thats totally different because thats a once a year situation, and usually involves a lot of research on a deal before it appears.

Also consider that the measurement of a SD, is that it is a lower price for an item, which for the most part in the present, recent or memorable past, has been priced HIGHER. If you are going to ignore past prices, you might as well consider every single deal in a vacuum, and say "well, if i need it, and i physically have the money now, ill buy it with zero research or hesitation."

You know what they say about those who forget history...

nguyentma 01-07-2012 01:10 PM

Is 1920 x 1200 the highest resolution this monitor can set? Thanks!

ddavidch 01-07-2012 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nguyentma (Post 46700018)
Is 1920 x 1200 the highest resolution this monitor can set? Thanks!

Yes, see the full specs:
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sn...0dd0c0s558

arrogantworks 01-07-2012 02:04 PM

though this monitor seems nice, i bought my 24" Asus at $100... what makes this worth another $150-$200???

dreamliner77 01-07-2012 02:54 PM

IPS vs TN

Azndude51 01-07-2012 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arrogantworks (Post 46700940)
though this monitor seems nice, i bought my 24" Asus at $100... what makes this worth another $150-$200???

Not all monitors are the same. That's almost like saying, "I Bought my Honda Civic for $20k, a BMW 3 series is also a compact sedan, what makes the BMW worth another $10-15k?"

Since you didn't provide details about which Asus 24" panel you have, I am making assumptions on your monitor. However, the biggest difference is the panel technology. Since your LCD was only $100, it is a TN panel which is what most budget LCDs have. This Dell is eIPS which has superior viewing angles and is supposed to have better colors (not as good as S-IPS though). IPS in general is a better panel for people who work in graphics, photography, etc. There are likely other differences, such as higher resolution (1920x1080 vs. 1920x1200) and stand adjustments (tilt, swivel, rotate).

kingjuno23 01-07-2012 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azndude51 (Post 46702412)
Not all monitors are the same. That's almost like saying, "I Bought my Honda Civic for $20k, a BMW 3 series is also a compact sedan, what makes the BMW worth another $10-15k?"

Since you didn't provide details about which Asus 24" panel you have, I am making assumptions on your monitor. However, the biggest difference is the panel technology. Since your LCD was only $100, it is a TN panel which is what most budget LCDs have. This Dell is eIPS which has superior viewing angles and is supposed to have better colors (not as good as S-IPS though). IPS in general is a better panel for people who work in graphics, photography, etc. There are likely other differences, such as higher resolution (1920x1080 vs. 1920x1200) and stand adjustments (tilt, swivel, rotate).

Well said. Did all the work for me lol. repped

gh188 01-07-2012 04:15 PM

Gah, can Dell be any more annoying? No HDMI. I have a 24" Dell monitor already, but no HDMI in. And my Dell XPS 17 has only HDMI out. I've tried HDMI to DVI convertors, but no go. Sigh.

Chiew 01-07-2012 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azndude51 (Post 46702412)
Not all monitors are the same. That's almost like saying, "I Bought my Honda Civic for $20k, a BMW 3 series is also a compact sedan, what makes the BMW worth another $10-15k?"

Since you didn't provide details about which Asus 24" panel you have, I am making assumptions on your monitor. However, the biggest difference is the panel technology. Since your LCD was only $100, it is a TN panel which is what most budget LCDs have. This Dell is eIPS which has superior viewing angles and is supposed to have better colors (not as good as S-IPS though). IPS in general is a better panel for people who work in graphics, photography, etc. There are likely other differences, such as higher resolution (1920x1080 vs. 1920x1200) and stand adjustments (tilt, swivel, rotate).

great advice :bounce:

i'd say most people aren't aware there are different panel types. i myself didn't get to see the difference firsthand until i went from my first monitor, a dell 17" ultrasharp (1704FP) to my second, a dell 20" widescreen ultrasharp (2005FPW). the first was a TN panel with horrible colors and the second was a S-IPS panel with much better colors and viewing angles. i'm posting on my third monitor, a dell 30" (3007WFP-HC) which is also S-IPS. i'll never go back to TN

Namelessme 01-07-2012 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tp4tissue (Post 46699516)
it really IS a tough decision as this is only a 6-bit ips, not an 8-bit ips.

The 6 vs 8 bit color thing is a bit overblown in my opinion for this specific monitor, unless you are a professional photographer or something, but then it'd probably be best to go real high end anyway (Eizo, etc).

I previously had this monitor and there was no banding at all, or if there was any, I couldn't see it. In reviews for this monitor, I have seen similar statements, no color banding.

The real issue with this monitor, and only for a minority of people (unfortunately I was one of them), is the rather heavy AG coating making white and light colors appear dusty/sparkly and bothersome. Reading black text on white screens became rather unpleasant to my eyeballs, even with brightness turned down, so I had to return the monitor to Dell.

I expect most people will be okay with the coating, but it's something to be aware of before ordering.

samnyc 01-07-2012 05:11 PM

Got this on BF to upgrade my Samsung TN (120hz) monitor. I'm really happy with it. The colors and viewing angle are great. I've been pretty busy but the little gaming I've done on BF3 has looked fine. If you do buy it, lower the brightness. It comes cranked.

wolverine88 01-07-2012 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dreamliner77 (Post 46697832)
Decisions, decisions. This or the Hanns 27.5"?

I have both. I end up using 28" more. Size does matter

Cookie21 01-07-2012 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolverine88 (Post 46706530)
I have both. I end up using 28" more. Size does matter

2nd - ;) - looking @ 27 or 30"er :)

iDylan1357 01-07-2012 08:13 PM

$300 for a monitor doesn't seem like such a deal... I got my Acer 23' 1080P from BB for $90...

EphesiansSix 01-07-2012 08:15 PM

FYI current ship date is showing as 1/20. I'll wait for a price more like what we saw last month (i.e. $264 or free camera for resale).

I'm also tempted to go with the U2410 that ships right away for $466 (plus tax), with 15% off coupon ZXP20F740G$W11. (Too bad the % off coupons aren't stackable) But the $166 more to get 8-bit "true" IPS will probably be lost on me.

@wolverine: I loved my 17" Dell E1705 laptop from 5 years ago running at 1920x1200! If I'm sitting 18" from a monitor, no need for it to be gigantic IMO.

OneSlickDeal 01-07-2012 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by starcaptor (Post 46699046)
Checking past prices is absolutely NOT MOOT...whats the point of a SlickDeal if it doesnt fare well against lower past prices which have shown up several times, and recently at that? This monitor has been $265 to $270 several times...if you are comparing a deal to Black Friday, thats totally different because thats a once a year situation, and usually involves a lot of research on a deal before it appears.

Also consider that the measurement of a SD, is that it is a lower price for an item, which for the most part in the present, recent or memorable past, has been priced HIGHER. If you are going to ignore past prices, you might as well consider every single deal in a vacuum, and say "well, if i need it, and i physically have the money now, ill buy it with zero research or hesitation."

You know what they say about those who forget history...



So no hard drive deals the past few months should even be considered right?

Behave 01-07-2012 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iDylan1357 (Post 46707252)
$300 for a monitor doesn't seem like such a deal... I got my Acer 23' 1080P from BB for $90...

My condolenses.;)

Azndude51 01-08-2012 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iDylan1357 (Post 46707252)
$300 for a monitor doesn't seem like such a deal... I got my Acer 23' 1080P from BB for $90...

Not all monitors are equivalent. Please read my post (#20) above.

nocreditcardebt 01-08-2012 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NanoXD (Post 46708412)
My condolenses.;)

Many of us on this thread have been there. Good deal yes. You'll eventually eBay it (for a profit) and want a dell 24+ IPS

arrogantworks 01-08-2012 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azndude51 (Post 46702412)
Not all monitors are the same. That's almost like saying, "I Bought my Honda Civic for $20k, a BMW 3 series is also a compact sedan, what makes the BMW worth another $10-15k?"

Since you didn't provide details about which Asus 24" panel you have, I am making assumptions on your monitor. However, the biggest difference is the panel technology. Since your LCD was only $100, it is a TN panel which is what most budget LCDs have. This Dell is eIPS which has superior viewing angles and is supposed to have better colors (not as good as S-IPS though). IPS in general is a better panel for people who work in graphics, photography, etc. There are likely other differences, such as higher resolution (1920x1080 vs. 1920x1200) and stand adjustments (tilt, swivel, rotate).

exactly what i was looking for... so this monitor is aimed at a professional and not the average user.

frozenfire06 01-08-2012 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arrogantworks (Post 46716138)
exactly what i was looking for... so this monitor is aimed at a professional and not the average user.

No, not exactly... this monitor is a nice "mid level" at best as far as IPS screens go. I bought one and absolutely love it, but there are still much better ones out there that I would buy if I wanted a real pro level IPS screen... but for my uses and the price, this monitor is great.

Azndude51 01-08-2012 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arrogantworks (Post 46716138)
exactly what i was looking for... so this monitor is aimed at a professional and not the average user.

Well, the U2412M not quite a professional user's monitor, but it's a step above what the average consumer would need. It's is more of an intermediate. Professionals would go for the U2410 [dell.com] since it is a S-IPS panel. That means it's 8 bit and not 6 bit like the U2412M making it able to display a larger color gamut. It also has more inputs, a card reader, and a USB hub.

superstition 01-09-2012 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Namelessme (Post 46703154)
The 6 vs 8 bit color thing is a bit overblown in my opinion for this specific monitor, unless you are a professional photographer or something, but then it'd probably be best to go real high end anyway (Eizo, etc).

I previously had this monitor and there was no banding at all, or if there was any, I couldn't see it. In reviews for this monitor, I have seen similar statements, no color banding.

The real issue with this monitor, and only for a minority of people (unfortunately I was one of them), is the rather heavy AG coating making white and light colors appear dusty/sparkly and bothersome. Reading black text on white screens became rather unpleasant to my eyeballs, even with brightness turned down, so I had to return the monitor to Dell.

I expect most people will be okay with the coating, but it's something to be aware of before ordering.

6-bit color (plus 2 bits of dithering) doesn't necessarily lead to banding. It's more likely to lead to noise.

But, the lack of true 8-bit color is not a big deal for most people, I agree. The anti-glare coating is strong, too, but for people who hate reflections it may not be unwelcome.

Dell probably likes such a strong coating for fluorescent overhead office lighting situations.

superstition 01-09-2012 10:30 PM

Two reviews:

http://www.prad.de/en/monitore/re...2412m.html
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/revie...u2412m.htm

Ralph007 01-10-2012 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gh188 (Post 46702966)
Gah, can Dell be any more annoying? No HDMI. I have a 24" Dell monitor already, but no HDMI in. And my Dell XPS 17 has only HDMI out. I've tried HDMI to DVI convertors, but no go. Sigh.

What did you try? Was it something like this?
http://www.meritline.com/male-dvi...30307.aspx

DVI is electrically equivalent to HDMI minus the audio. That's why simple adapters like this should work.

Ralph007 01-10-2012 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iDylan1357 (Post 46707252)
$300 for a monitor doesn't seem like such a deal... I got my Acer 23' 1080P from BB for $90...

lol, is this a troll?

I'm guessing if you tried this monitor for a while you might change your mind. It's bigger (unless your monitor really is 23 foot), higher resolution, 16:10 vs the 16:9 of 1080P, better color, better viewing angles, better features.

I want it.

Phosphorus29 01-10-2012 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by superstition (Post 46758178)
6-bit color (plus 2 bits of dithering) doesn't necessarily lead to banding. It's more likely to lead to noise.

But, the lack of true 8-bit color is not a big deal for most people, I agree. The anti-glare coating is strong, too, but for people who hate reflections it may not be unwelcome.

Dell probably likes such a strong coating for fluorescent overhead office lighting situations.

The anti-glare on this monitor isn't actually too bad. My 2707WFP had way worse anti-glare, and my 2007WFP has somewhat worse AG.

ddavidch 01-10-2012 07:54 AM

Looks like this is dead now... just checked on the Small Biz, MPP and Home sites and they are all showing it back to $369.00 for me.
I've been watching this for a few weeks and these deals come and go - it was $40 off on the home site for a while and if you search on the other threads there were coupons that would work, etc.
I cannot predict what will come, but looks like this monitor is routines put on some sort of sale.

One other point, this also included the 3Yr PREMIUM PANEL Ltd. Warranty, 3 yr Advanced Exchange - which is really good from the other threads and reviews - 1 dead pixel means an overnight shipping of new monitor, etc.:
Can't live without your Dell™ Monitor- You're covered with Advanced Exchange from Dell. Your Dell Monitor includes all the benefits of Advanced Exchange1, Dell's service and support and Limited Warranty2 for three years. Take this opportunity to extend the benefits of Advanced Exchange and protect your investment for up to 5 years. What is Advanced Exchange- In the event you have a warranty issue (problem) with your Dell Monitor that cannot be resolved over the phone, we will ship you a replacement unit the next business day. Unpack your new unit, ship back the defective unit and continue to enjoy the power of your Dell Monitor.

1Replacement system or replacement part will be dispatched, if necessary, following phone-based troubleshooting, in advance of receipt of returned defective part or system. Replacements may be refurbished. Defective unit must be returned. Availability varies. Other conditions apply.

gh188 01-10-2012 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ralph007 (Post 46763330)
What did you try? Was it something like this?
http://www.meritline.com/male-dvi...30307.aspx

DVI is electrically equivalent to HDMI minus the audio. That's why simple adapters like this should work.

Yep. Does not work with my 2408WFP. Doesn't register any signal using the converter.

ddavidch 01-11-2012 06:47 AM

FYI, this is still dead - no deal now - other than free shipping and handling through any channel: Small Biz, Home or Member Purchase Program

Ralph007 01-11-2012 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gh188 (Post 46779100)
Yep. Does not work with my 2408WFP. Doesn't register any signal using the converter.

Hmm, that may be because of the DRM handshake bullcrap.

See
http://www.digitalconnection.com/faq/HDTV_12.asp

So maybe your monitor isn't HDCP compliant but the laptop HDMI output is. Man I hate that. It's such baloney. Our devices are crippled by this stuff. Sometimes I think we're going backwards.

gh188 01-11-2012 01:48 PM

Probably. I know the monitor isn't HDCP compliant -- but the content the laptop's spewing out isn't HDCP content.

Again, stupid Dell.

slowpokeG 01-12-2012 07:23 AM

Still waiting for this to ship.

Seeing all the new stuff from CES makes me want to cancel and wait to see if anything better comes out. Anyone seen a new IPS aiming for the 300-450 range coming out of CES? Haven't seen anything yet...just 700~1K 3D IPS stuff from Samsung/LG

ddavidch 01-12-2012 10:17 AM

FYI, if anyone is still looking at this thread:

Dell Home, Small Biz and MPP have this monitor discounted again by only $40 this time:
Market Value $369.00
Total Savings -$40.00
Dell Price $329.00
Home says: Expires Thursday, January 19, 2012

But, if you go to MPP:
MPP Customers Save 5% Off Monitors with coupon 9RTJKC?L2$Q$D4
Expires Saturday, February 04, 2012
You can get it down to $312.55
Still not as good as the OP, but not full price.


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