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paintballer301 08-14-2012 12:41 PM

Dell Inspiron 17R Special Edition Laptop - Intel i7-3610 17.3" 1080p LED, 8GB Ram, NVIDIA GT 650M, 1TB HD + 32GB SSD, DVD+/-R, $760 *YMMV* AC +FS
 
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(3rd Gen i7 / 8GB DDR3 / 1 TB / SSD / GT 650M / 17.3” 1080p / BACKLIT keyboard / Skullcandy / BT/ 3x USB 3.0/ HDMI) [dell.com]

Hey everyone!

I am new to posting so please go easy on me.

This deal is *YMMV* (worked perfect for me) *UPDATE* I purchased the laptop 8/14. It has already been shipped and I received my tracking #, being delivered 8/17!!**

http://configure.us.dell.com/dell...=dhs&cs=19

I just got off the phone with a Dell representative and my final sale price was $1,006.97 out of my bank account. With a $200 eGift card + 5% ($50) Giftcard coming in my e-mail as we speak.

Original Price: $1188.99
Instant Discount: - $89.00
Coupon: - $150.00
eGift card: - $200.00
Dell Adv. (5%) - $50.00
Shipping - FREE

Total w/o tax: $700
Total w/ tax: ~$760

Lets say you can sell the $200 dell card for $175, and the 5% advantage card for $40. You are still looking at the system costing you UNDER $800 Including tax and shipping.

$150 Coupon code: VXR688LTJGKQC$

(Works with both the 15R & the 17R)

SPECIFICATIONS:
Processor: 3rd Generation Intel® Core™ i7-3610QM processor (6M Cache, up to 3.3 GHz)
Memory: 8GB Shared Dual Channel DDR3 Memory
Hard Drive: 1TB 5400RPM SATA HDD + 32GB mSATA SSD w/ Intel Smart Response
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M GDDR5 2GB
Optical Drive: 8X Tray Load CD/DVD Burner (Dual Layer DVD+/-R Drive)
Monitor: 17.3" Full High Definition (1080p) LED Display with Anti-Glare
Sound: Waves MaxxAudio 4 + Skullcandy Speakers
Network Card: Integrated 10/100/1000 Gigabit Ethernet card
Keyboard: Dell Backlit Keyboard with Multi-touch Touchpad
Wireless: Intel® Centrino® Wireless 2230, 2x2 bgn + Bluetooth
Battery: 48 WHr 6-cell Lithium Ion Battery
Color: Stealth Black Anodized Aluminum
Operating System: Windows® 7 Home Premium, 64-Bit, English
Office Software: Microsoft® Office Starter: reduced-functionality Word & Excel
Security Software: McAfee® SecurityCenter, 15-Months
+ I believe you get a free $20 shutterfly credit

*HOW* to get the deal…

Patience + Time

You have to talk to a dell representative (either by phone or online chat – phone is a LOT quicker)
Say you would like to purchase a new laptop, dell inspiron 17r special edition, etc.
Say you are a student and really need a new laptop, try and sweet talk / always be very nice
Tell them that last week your friend was able to buy this laptop and get a $200 eGiftcard for being a student and you would like the same thing.
Tell them you would like to purchase the laptop right now through them
Then tell them that you also have a coupon for the laptop and would like to use that too (VXR688LTJGKQC$) and let them respond…
Usually they will say “oh you cannot combine the two things etc.” then tell them that you can combine them as your friend last week was able to get them both to work together, then say that “ you have to get a manager to over-ride it” and then you have to wait 5-10 min for them to go talk to a higher up and this is the point where you will be good to go, or not, if they say no sir we still cannot do it. Hang up/Close the chat and re-open/re-call. It took me 3 times until I got a Chinese rep that took about an hour but was able to get everything to work for me.
After they agree to combine the $150 coupon and the $200 eGiftcard, then you proceed to check out etc. then tell them you want to use your Dell Advantage pin #. ( This will give you 5% GC back) If they say no we cannot do it, then tell them that you need it in order to complete the transaction and to talk to their manager and you shouldn’t have any problems adding it.

Some reps are a lot more lenient than others, it is just hit or miss, but I GUARANTEE that Dell is able to do this deal, it just requires talking to the correct people.
As for the actual Dell Gift Cards, they will definitely sell (try CL / eBay etc.) you might not get 100% of the amount but at the least 75%. Or you can keep them and use the gift cards to purchase an external monitor or case etc.
The dell advantage promotion is free to sign up.. you just need an e-mail, and you get a 5% giftcard of your total price to use, so why not?
There is another thread on here that talks about the 15R special edition, but I have had absolutely no luck combining the $200 GC/ $150 coupon as that is too “cheap” of a machine. And even if you were able to get them to stack on the 15” model, it is only an extra $100 to upgrade screen size / HD / SSD/ Video Card / I believe the 17” has a subwoofer and the 15” doesn’t (don’t quote me on that). So I believe it is worth the $100 upgrade and a better chance of getting the deal to work.
I apologize for such a big post, I just want to give as much information and help as possible so my fellow SlickDealers can get this awesome machine at a great price!

Good luck - Jon :hug:

Roja 08-14-2012 12:52 PM

Thats lot of work. Sorry newbie. Not a good deal. But appreciate your effort.

paintballer301 08-14-2012 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roja (Post 52458854)
Thats lot of work. Sorry newbie. Not a good deal. But appreciate your effort.

This laptop for under $800 shipped including tax for 1 hour of work is a bad deal??

Not trying to be mean/rude, but do you mind sending me a link to another machine with the same specs / similiar price?

funkmasterta 08-14-2012 01:01 PM

repped for effort

Tunaktun 08-14-2012 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roja (Post 52458854)
Thats lot of work. Sorry newbie. Not a good deal. But appreciate your effort.


Don't be a lazy ass you noob. At least criticize the YMMV

Garvin 08-14-2012 01:13 PM

What are everybody's thoughts on this laptop? I usually stay away from Dell. But for the price, this looks good.

Thanks!

books1 08-14-2012 01:20 PM

same deal already posted:
http://slickdeals.net/f/5040776-D...e-Shipping

you can get the 15 r or 17 r special editions

Troupster 08-14-2012 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garvin (Post 52459452)
What are everybody's thoughts on this laptop? I usually stay away from Dell. But for the price, this looks good.

Thanks!

Loved my vostro 1700, hate Dell support with a passion. Consider this like buying off craigslist, because there is no follow up.

dragonheart 08-14-2012 01:29 PM

not a bad deal if you need all that power. mind you it is pretty big and heavy - 7.23 lbs.

m00ky 08-14-2012 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paintballer301 (Post 52459048)
This laptop for under $800 shipped including tax for 1 hour of work is a bad deal??

Not trying to be mean/rude, but do you mind sending me a link to another machine with the same specs / similiar price?


I got my xps 17 with similar specs for $500. It was from the factory store, but it was like new and under warranty.

paintballer301 08-14-2012 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by funkmasterta (Post 52459110)
repped for effort

Thank you :):hug:
Quote:

Originally Posted by books1 (Post 52459620)
same deal already posted:
http://slickdeals.net/f/5040776-D...e-Shipping you can get the 15 r or 17 r special editions

That is for the 15" for $850. This is for the 17" at $760
Quote:

Originally Posted by m00ky (Post 52459892)
I got my xps 17 with similar specs for $500. It was from the factory store, but it was like new and under warranty.

Good deal but cannot replicate. This you can replicate so others can take advantage of the deal.

m00ky 08-14-2012 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paintballer301 (Post 52460512)
Thank you :):hug:

That is for the 15" for $850. This is for the 17" at $760

Good deal but cannot replicate. This you can replicate so others can take advantage of the deal.


Can't replicate? Plenty of people on slickdeals got the deal, so I would say it was pretty replicable. I'm merely giving some pricing perspective, this is not a great price. That is all.

Also, I didn't have to call, text, finagle, or otherwise to get the deal. Just used a discount code and got a nice shiny laptop for cheap.

MageVortex 08-14-2012 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m00ky (Post 52459892)
I got my xps 17 with similar specs for $500. It was from the factory store, but it was like new and under warranty.

does it have an i7, 8gb of ram, a 650M, SSD boot drive, etc?
And if so, how did you get it for that price exactly? I'm interested.o, and repped for effort if nothing else*

paintballer301 08-14-2012 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MageVortex (Post 52461172)
does it have an i7, 8gb of ram, a 650M, SSD boot drive, etc?
And if so, how did you get it for that price exactly? I'm interested.o, and repped for effort if nothing else*

I totally agree, and thank you sir! :)

Bitech 08-14-2012 03:45 PM

Why all the thumbs down? The title DOES say YMMV

dubleo 08-14-2012 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bitech (Post 52462860)
Why all the thumbs down? The title DOES say YMMV

Low end Dell laptops are not meant to last long.

MageVortex 08-14-2012 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubleo (Post 52462930)
Low end Dell laptops are not meant to last long.

I myself don't consider this a low end laptops...maybe i just have low standards.....? Heck if i know, but from what i can tell, if someone replicated this deal, they'd have gottena pretty good deal from what i can see.
I TU'd.

Bitech 08-14-2012 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubleo (Post 52462930)
Low end Dell laptops are not meant to last long.

How is this low end? What does a "high end" Dell laptop have that this one doesn't? 3D and Bluray?

dubleo 08-14-2012 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MageVortex (Post 52463586)
I myself don't consider this a low end laptops...maybe i just have low standards.....? Heck if i know, but from what i can tell, if someone replicated this deal, they'd have gottena pretty good deal from what i can see.
I TU'd.


Inspiron is one of Dell's lowest models.

The Precision line is Dell's highest model.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bitech (Post 52463696)
How is this low end?


Build quality. The CPU and GPU are good but what happens to you when the motherboard fails?
Find a Precision for this price and it will be a great price.


My lenovo ThinkPad W530 with a 1080P screen costs this much.

dubleo 08-14-2012 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bitech (Post 52463696)
How is this low end? What does a "high end" Dell laptop have that this one doesn't? 3D and Bluray?

3 year NBD warranty standard.
Military grade (passes certain tests)
IPS panel display
4 GB VRAM
etc


link: http://www.dell.com/us/business/p...n-m6700/pd

MageVortex 08-14-2012 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubleo (Post 52463796)
3 year NBD warranty standard.
Military grade (passes certain tests)
IPS panel display
4 GB VRAM
etc


link: http://www.dell.com/us/business/p...n-m6700/pd

lol
yes, that certainly IS high end. and more than 2x the price. $1900 laptops would never be considered alongside one you can *potentially* get for $750. Talk about apples to oranges man.

dubleo 08-14-2012 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MageVortex (Post 52464602)
lol
yes, that certainly IS high end. and more than 2x the price. $1900 laptops would never be considered alongside one you can *potentially* get for $750. Talk about apples to oranges man.

My W530 was $761 + taxes

Datasheet : http://www.lenovo.com/hk/en/produ...asheet.pdf

Specs : Core i7 3610QM , Quadro K1000m , 4 GB RAM , 320 GB HDD , 1080P 95% color gamut screen , no ODD , webcam , backlit keyboard , Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6205 , fingerprint reader

Edit: I also have bluetooth 4.0

+ThinkPad quality and IBM warranty :)

MageVortex 08-14-2012 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubleo (Post 52464716)
My W530 was $761 + taxes

Datasheet : http://www.lenovo.com/hk/en/produ...asheet.pdf

Specs : Core i7 3610QM , Quadro K1000m , 4 GB RAM , 320 GB HDD , 1080P 95% color gamut screen , no ODD , webcam , backlit keyboard , Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6205 , fingerprint reader


+ThinkPad quality and IBM warranty :)

The looks like a pretty good / decent deal on your lappy it would seem. I've no idea what a Quadro K1000m is, nor what ODD is, or Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6205 is.
Does it have dedicated graphics card?

dubleo 08-14-2012 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MageVortex (Post 52465862)
The looks like a pretty good / decent deal on your lappy it would seem. I've no idea what a Quadro K1000m is, nor what ODD is, or Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6205 is.
Does it have dedicated graphics card?

A Quadro K1000m is a dedicated GPU that has 2 GB of VRAM. It's meant more for CAD applications than gaming.
ODD is optical disk drive
Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6205 is a dual band wireless N card.

RHCCapri 08-14-2012 06:27 PM

Any way to get a bluray drive on that 17R SE?

dubleo 08-14-2012 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RHCCapri (Post 52466052)
Any way to get a bluray drive on that 17R SE?


Buy one separately and put it in yourself?

Bitech 08-14-2012 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubleo (Post 52465892)
A Quadro K1000m is a dedicated GPU that has 2 GB of VRAM. It's meant more for CAD applications than gaming.
ODD is optical disk drive
Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6205 is a dual band wireless N card.

So you do know you're comparing a workstation laptop to a gaming laptop right? It's great and all that you got your workstation for only a little more than a third of it's original price, but how do you suppose a gamer would use your laptop for gaming when it has a Quadro? And why does it only have 4 GB RAM and only a 320 GB HDD?

Also your doublepost is still there after you "merged" them.

dubleo 08-14-2012 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bitech (Post 52466166)
So you do know you're comparing a workstation laptop to a gaming laptop right? It's great and all that you got your workstation for only a little more than a third of it's original price, but how do you suppose a gamer would use your laptop for gaming when it has a Quadro and only 4 GB RAM and only a 320 GB HDD?

Upgrades are cheap. I've seen 32 GB of RAM for $140 ( 4 modules).

4GB of RAM is a lot even for most games and I would probably buy an SSD for games.
Though right now I can do light gaming (1366 x 768) on it and it stays very quiet.

I'm just warning people that Dell makes the Inspirion series cheap before someone says "all Dell are junk"

If you buy another computer every year you wouldn't care if this Dell may only last 13 months. Maybe gamers buy a new laptop every year?

Even the IdeaPads from lenovo have better quality than the Insprions.

Bitech 08-14-2012 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubleo (Post 52466236)
Upgrades are cheap. I've seen 32 GB of RAM for $140 ( 4 modules).

4GB of RAM is a lot even for most games and I would probably buy an SSD for games.
Though right now I can do light gaming (1366 x 768) on it and it stays very quiet.

I'm just warning people that Dell makes the Inspirion series cheap before someone says "all Dell are junk"

If you buy another computer every year you wouldn't care if this Dell may only last 13 months. Maybe gamers buy a new laptop every year?

Even the IdeaPads from lenovo have better quality than the Insprions.

So you do know you're comparing a workstation laptop to a gaming laptop right?
What gamer buys a new computer every year? Even if a gamer does it would make sense to sell the OLD, WORKING laptop, if not passing it down to another person, so buying a new laptop to replace an old one doesn't have to be the full price.

dubleo 08-14-2012 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bitech (Post 52466466)
So you do know you're comparing a workstation laptop to a gaming laptop right?

Well one big difference is that one is designed to last a long time and one is designed to fail just after the warranty.


Why can't gaming laptops have the quality of a workstation laptop?

Edit: if this is a gaming laptop then what is the rMBP?

paintballer301 08-14-2012 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubleo (Post 52466496)
Well one big difference is that one is designed to last a long time and one is designed to fail just after the warranty.


Why can't gaming laptops have the quality of a workstation laptop?

Edit: if this is a gaming laptop then what is the rMBP?

So this laptop i purchased today was DESIGNED TO FAIL just after warranty?

Hmmm, somehow i just doubt that...

Raynold101 08-15-2012 04:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paintballer301 (Post 52466662)
So this laptop i purchased today was DESIGNED TO FAIL just after warranty?

Hmmm, somehow i just doubt that...

why do you think limited warranty exist?

they know which things break often and those normally aren't included in warranty. its another way for them to make more money by making people buy extended warranty.

if they built something that they know are gonna last say 2-3 years, why can't they give you a 1 year full warranty or a even longer warranty? not only is that another sale point but it boosts the consumer's incentive to buy the product.

designed to fail might be too harsh, but more like the laptop you purchased today was built to last at least a year, and would probably start failing after that.

of course if the owner takes proper care of it, it would probably last much longer than some 6yr old banging on it all day long.

and um... this isn't a "real gaming laptop" it can play games well, but this is pretty much what you call a loaded low end laptop. simply put, look at alienware it cost practically 2x as much as this with pretty much the same "specs" where do you think the price difference goes?

funkmasterta 08-15-2012 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubleo (Post 52466496)
Well one big difference is that one is designed to last a long time and one is designed to fail just after the warranty.


Why can't gaming laptops have the quality of a workstation laptop?

Edit: if this is a gaming laptop then what is the rMBP?

My brother's friend works in IT in a big corporation. He frankensteins old Inspiron laptop parts together all the time to give to young family members (as their first laptops).

Anyway, our cousin was given an Inspiron 5150 [blogspot.com] and unfortunately.....IT STILL WORKS TO THIS DAY!

It's unfortunate because the dang thing won't break but it's too slow to run any modern software.

The REAL difference between the Inspiron line and the XPS (Precision, etc) line is that the XPS has much better warranty service and that's what companies pay for. Internally, the motherboards all come from the same manufacturers (my brother's IT friend will attest to this, he's taken hundreds of laptops apart). All the other components are IDENTICAL. An i7 is an i7. The ram is sourced from the same suppliers. Same with hard drives, wifi cards, etc.

Dell's high end line will also use premium materials like carbon fiber and aluminum. Aluminum is over-rated though, Apple's made it into a trendy thing. Personally, I'd prefer a strong and LIGHT plastic composite, like carbon fiber.

Plus, aluminum acts like a huge heat sink (just ask any Mac book pro owner with fried balls).

I like the way Dell is going with their new XPS line and putting silicone on the bottom (same stuff used in heat resistant cook ware). I hope they patented that idea before Apple tries to steal it, patent it and then sue everyone else for using it.

Bottom line, I still only buy XPS, because I want the premium materials and the warranty....and I can afford it.

PS. All this talk about warranties, everyone here should watch this movie, some things are designed to fail, but this laptop is not: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1825163/combined

r4nd0m 08-15-2012 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubleo (Post 52466496)
Well one big difference is that one is designed to last a long time and one is designed to fail just after the warranty.


Why can't gaming laptops have the quality of a workstation laptop?

Edit: if this is a gaming laptop then what is the rMBP?

So you're a troll and a clown? Awesome. It's always hillarious when someone chimes in about something they have absolutely no clue about. You're comparing TOTALLY different machines and spec wise the 17R SE blows your Lenovo out of the water. I have never had an issue with Dell computers and I have used them for years.

In any case, this is an incredible deal and I can confirm I was able to get it to work as well. I got a quote for $949.99 after applying the $150 coupon code and Dell Advantage, and then called Dell and gave them the quote # and convinced them that the $200 giftcard never got added on there. After doing much comparison shopping, this deal is a safe bet and quite a steal.

If you're terribly worried about "quality", you can always use those gift cards to buy the extended warranty.

paintballer301 08-15-2012 09:05 AM

Can't believe this thread has Thumbs down.. The specs in this laptop for under $800 (possibly cheaper) are definitely a deal!

Sure it might take a little bit of "work" to get the deal, but me and many others on SD have been able to get the deal.

I'm just trying to help others out to get the deal aswell.

*UPDATE* I bought my laptop yesterday, It is being delivered in 2 days!!! Already have the tracking

dubleo 08-15-2012 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by funkmasterta (Post 52476940)
My brother's friend works in IT in a big corporation. He frankensteins old Inspiron laptop ... Internally, the motherboards all come from the same manufacturers (my brother's IT friend will attest to this, he's taken hundreds of laptops apart). All the other components are IDENTICAL. An i7 is an i7. The ram is sourced from the same suppliers. Same with hard drives, wifi cards, etc.[/url]


Components are can never be identical but can be very close. The components are binned based on the tests that they pass.

One Core i7 CPU may overclock better than another Core i7 CPU even though they are the same model and are technically supposed to be the same.
Semiconductor physics explains it quite well. Some yields are better than others. For example , defects in the structure can impede electron mobility so it would be much harder to maintain a higher frequency since less current is available.

Quote:

Originally Posted by r4nd0m (Post 52478982)
So you're a troll and a clown? Awesome. It's always hillarious when someone chimes in about something they have absolutely no clue about. You're comparing TOTALLY different machines and spec wise the 17R SE blows your Lenovo out of the water. I have never had an issue with Dell computers and I have used them for years.

In any case, this is an incredible deal and I can confirm I was able to get it to work as well. I got a quote for $949.99 after applying the $150 coupon code and Dell Advantage, and then called Dell and gave them the quote # and convinced them that the $200 giftcard never got added on there. After doing much comparison shopping, this deal is a safe bet and quite a steal.

If you're terribly worried about "quality", you can always use those gift cards to buy the extended warranty.


In CAD performance , my lenovo wins.
In screen quality , my lenovo wins.
In gaming performance , the dell wins.
In warranty service , my lenovo wins.
In wireless LAN performance , my lenovo would win.

The CPUs are the same so in CPU intensive tasks they will perform almost exactly the same (pure CPU tasks not HDD or RAM heavy)

Since most people play games rather than do design work , the Dell will be better.

r4nd0m 08-15-2012 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubleo (Post 52479836)
Components are can never be identical but can be very close. The components are binned based on the tests that they pass.

One Core i7 CPU may overclock better than another Core i7 CPU even though they are the same model and are technically supposed to be the same.
Semiconductor physics explains it quite well. Some yields are better than others. For example , defects in the structure can impede electron mobility so it would be much harder to maintain a higher frequency since less current is available.




In CAD performance , my lenovo wins.
In screen quality , my lenovo wins.
In gaming performance , the dell wins.
In warranty service , my lenovo wins.
In wireless LAN performance , my lenovo would win.

The CPUs are the same so in CPU intensive tasks they will perform almost exactly the same (pure CPU tasks not HDD or RAM heavy)

Since most people play games rather than do design work , the Dell will be better.

It's great that you love your Lenovo but this thread is about a Dell deal. But hey, go ahead and keep comparing apples to oranges - I'm sure someone is entertained by you :bounce:

dubleo 08-15-2012 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by r4nd0m (Post 52480880)
It's great that you love your Lenovo but this thread is about a Dell deal. But hey, go ahead and keep comparing apples to oranges - I'm sure someone is entertained by you :bounce:


I'm just trying to convince people that most gaming laptops don't have nice options like a high end TN panel (Sager does but Dell doesn't anymore) or IPS panel , or whatever else that people are missing out on.

Some people will never know what they are missing until someone else says something.

ctsinc 08-15-2012 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roja (Post 52458854)
Thats lot of work. Sorry newbie. Not a good deal. But appreciate your effort.

So investing 1-2 hours of work for a $360 payback is too much work? I make well over 6 digits and even I don't make $180/hour.

ctsinc 08-15-2012 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubleo (Post 52479836)
Components are can never be identical but can be very close. The components are binned based on the tests that they pass.

One Core i7 CPU may overclock better than another Core i7 CPU even though they are the same model and are technically supposed to be the same.
Semiconductor physics explains it quite well. Some yields are better than others. For example , defects in the structure can impede electron mobility so it would be much harder to maintain a higher frequency since less current is available.




In CAD performance , my lenovo wins.
In screen quality , my lenovo wins.
In gaming performance , the dell wins.
In warranty service , my lenovo wins.
In wireless LAN performance , my lenovo would win.

The CPUs are the same so in CPU intensive tasks they will perform almost exactly the same (pure CPU tasks not HDD or RAM heavy)

Since most people play games rather than do design work , the Dell will be better.

This is a pretty funny post. With the exception of the comment about warranty service [because Dell help desk herp derp Indians are morons], these comments are just retarded. At the very least you could comment on what type of Lenovo you're referring to.

Quote:

Originally Posted by paintballer301 (Post 52479800)
Can't believe this thread has Thumbs down.. The specs in this laptop for under $800 (possibly cheaper) are definitely a deal!

Sure it might take a little bit of "work" to get the deal, but me and many others on SD have been able to get the deal.

I'm just trying to help others out to get the deal aswell.

*UPDATE* I bought my laptop yesterday, It is being delivered in 2 days!!! Already have the tracking

Can you post the receipt, or at least forward the confirmation email to me in a private message?

paintballer301 08-15-2012 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctsinc (Post 52482250)
Can you post the receipt, or at least forward the confirmation email to me in a private message?

PM'd :hug:

dubleo 08-15-2012 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctsinc (Post 52482250)
This is a pretty funny post. With the exception of the comment about warranty service [because Dell help desk herp derp Indians are morons], these comments are just retarded. At the very least you could comment on what type of Lenovo you're referring to.



Can you post the receipt, or at least forward the confirmation email to me in a private message?

As I said before I was referring to my lenovo ThinkPad W530.

I talked about it in multiple posts.

I mentioned those things in reference to the person saying that this Dell Inspiron 17R blows my lenovo ThinkPad W530 out of the water.
The statement is not true in most cases ( especially since I plan to upgrade to a SSD + 32 GB of RAM)

Check post here http://slickdeals.net/forums/show...stcount=22

ctsinc 08-15-2012 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubleo (Post 52482812)
As I said before I was referring to my lenovo ThinkPad W530.

I talked about it in multiple posts.

I mentioned those things in reference to the person saying that this Dell Inspiron 17R blows my lenovo ThinkPad W530 out of the water.
The statement is not true in most cases ( especially since I plan to upgrade to a SSD + 32 GB of RAM)

Check post here http://slickdeals.net/forums/show...stcount=22

I thought it would be interesting to advise you that this laptop does, in fact, blow the W530 out of the water in a huge way. This laptop is not only a 17 inch, but also has a faster CPU, faster hard drive, faster video card, and more memory. There is literally no place where the W530 will outperform this 17R.

dubleo 08-15-2012 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctsinc (Post 52484674)
I thought it would be interesting to advise you that this laptop does, in fact, blow the W530 out of the water in a huge way. This laptop is not only a 17 inch, but also has a faster CPU, faster hard drive, faster video card, and more memory. There is literally no place where the W530 will outperform this 17R.

the W530 has the exact same i7 3610QM.
The GPU in the W530 is meant for CAD and not gaming
the 15.6" 1080P in the W530 looks a lot better than the 17" Dell 1080P screen

The Inspiron doesn't even support 32GB of RAM like the W530 does either.

The only thing that is a big deal is the GPU in the Inspirion. Everything else can easily be upgraded in the W530.

ctsinc 08-15-2012 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubleo (Post 52485028)
the W530 has the exact same i7 3610QM.
The GPU in the W530 is meant for CAD and not gaming
the 15.6" 1080P in the W530 looks a lot better than the 17" Dell 1080P screen

The Inspiron doesn't even support 32GB of RAM like the W530 does either.

The only thing that is a big deal is the GPU in the Inspirion. Everything else can easily be upgraded in the W530.

1. It could have the same CPU. The one I saw didn't. Thanks for clarification
2. It doesn't matter. The 650M still blows the W530 to pieces.
3. Yeah I don't buy that for a minute. It might APPEAR clearer, being a smaller screen, but I can't really imagine much difference.

dubleo 08-15-2012 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctsinc (Post 52485162)
1. It could have the same CPU. The one I saw didn't. Thanks for clarification
2. It doesn't matter. The 650M still blows the W530 to pieces.
3. Yeah I don't buy that for a minute. It might APPEAR clearer, being a smaller screen, but I can't really imagine much difference.


Color gamut is a big deal but you probably wouldn't know about that.

Bitech 08-15-2012 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raynold101 (Post 52474032)
why do you think limited warranty exist?

Simply because manufacturers don't want to continue making old, outdated products and parts?
Quote:

they know which things break often and those normally aren't included in warranty. its another way for them to make more money by making people buy extended warranty.
Things don't simply break. They break according to a user's care and handling. In the case of us as members of SlickDeals, we tend to put a lot of effort to save money, and that includes taking care of our things so they won't break and we have to spend money replacing them so soon.
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if they built something that they know are gonna last say 2-3 years, why can't they give you a 1 year full warranty or a even longer warranty? not only is that another sale point but it boosts the consumer's incentive to buy the product.
The try to make money off ordinary consumers who don't take care of their computers very well. Their estimates are based off the common, mainstream consumer's care and handling.
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designed to fail might be too harsh, but more like the laptop you purchased today was built to last at least a year, and would probably start failing after that.
How does a laptop "start failing" outside of being defective?
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of course if the owner takes proper care of it, it would probably last much longer than some 6yr old banging on it all day long.
You could have said so sooner.
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and um... this isn't a "real gaming laptop" it can play games well, but this is pretty much what you call a loaded low end laptop. simply put, look at alienware it cost practically 2x as much as this with pretty much the same "specs" where do you think the price difference goes?
"Gaming" has a very broad definition. For many people a computer that can run games better than the average computer is considered a "gaming" computer. And then there are those "true/real" gamers who only consider a super expensive computer with enhanced cooling, backlit keyboard, build quality, glowing lights and other "gamer"-tastic bells and whistles.

Alienware makes computers for all the "hardcore" gamers who wants all these bells and whistles and to make money off them. Many PC gamers do not know much about computers and feel that the more they spend on a computer the better it will be.

Raynold101 08-15-2012 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bitech (Post 52487028)
Simply because manufacturers don't want to continue making old, outdated products and parts?
Things don't simply break. They break according to a user's care and handling. In the case of us as members of SlickDeals, we tend to put a lot of effort to save money, and that includes taking care of our things so they won't break and we have to spend money replacing them so soon.
The try to make money off ordinary consumers who don't take care of their computers very well. Their estimates are based off the common, mainstream consumer's care and handling.

How does a laptop "start failing" outside of being defective?

You could have said so sooner.

"Gaming" has a very broad definition. For many people a computer that can run games better than the average computer is considered a "gaming" computer. And then there are those "true/real" gamers who only consider a super expensive computer with enhanced cooling, backlit keyboard, build quality, glowing lights and other "gamer"-tastic bells and whistles.

Alienware makes computers for all the "hardcore" gamers who wants all these bells and whistles and to make money off them. Many PC gamers do not know much about computers and feel that the more they spend on a computer the better it will be.

they dont want to continue making outdated products and parts. why would they really need to make so many backup parts if the parts don't break?

actually from what I can tell, quite a few people in slickdeal in fact, do spend a lot of money, buying multiples copies of the same product, or stocking up a specif type of product, computers in this case, then flip the for more profit. so your theory dont exactly apply here.

things don't have to be defective to start breaking after certain time. things naturally start breaking over-time, and depending on the user that can either happen fast or slowly, and for the average consumer, these big companies calculated that it usually breaks after the warranty.

Quote:

"Gaming" has a very broad definition. For many people a computer that can run games better than the average computer is considered a "gaming" computer. And then there are those "true/real" gamers who only consider a super expensive computer with enhanced cooling, backlit keyboard, build quality, glowing lights and other "gamer"-tastic bells and whistles.
and you just explain to yourself, the difference between this and actual high end laptops.

ctsinc 08-15-2012 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubleo (Post 52485194)
Color gamut is a big deal but you probably wouldn't know about that.

Herp derp, is there REALLY such a huge difference? nope. and can it be adjusted? yep.

dubleo 08-15-2012 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctsinc (Post 52487702)
Herp derp, is there REALLY such a huge difference? nope. and can it be adjusted? yep.

You can adjust the color but not the color gamut unless you mean replacing the whole LCD screen.

If you do lots of image editing you would understand why a high gamut screen is important.

If what you said was true , image professionals would never spend thousands on dollars on high end LCD displays.


Here are some links about the screen used in the W530.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/l...gamut.html

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums...angemode=1

And here's some info on color spaces

http://www.drycreekphoto.com/Lear...spaces.htm

ctsinc 08-15-2012 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubleo (Post 52488270)
You can adjust the color but not the color gamut unless you mean replacing the whole LCD screen.

If you do lots of image editing you would understand why a high gamut screen is important.

If what you said was true , image professionals would never spend thousands on dollars on high end LCD displays.


Here are some links about the screen used in the W530.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/l...gamut.html

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums...angemode=1

And here's some info on color spaces

http://www.drycreekphoto.com/Lear...spaces.htm

You forgot to ass that a 15 inch laptop computer is not the tool of choice for graphics professionals. Incidentally, you're talking about two different things. 3D modeling and graphic design aren't really the same thing, and besides it really doesn't matter whether professionals prefer that laptop or not. First of all you can't buy that laptop for $700, and secondly, the 15R is not a business laptop so why are you even trying to compare them? I think you've bought the IBM laptop and trying to find some way to justify wasting all that money on something that, in reality is an FTL compared to this.

dubleo 08-15-2012 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctsinc (Post 52489402)
You forgot to ass that a 15 inch laptop computer is not the tool of choice for graphics professionals. Incidentally, you're talking about two different things. 3D modeling and graphic design aren't really the same thing, and besides it really doesn't matter whether professionals prefer that laptop or not. First of all you can't buy that laptop for $700, and secondly, the 15R is not a business laptop so why are you even trying to compare them? I think you've bought the IBM laptop and trying to find some way to justify wasting all that money on something that, in reality is an FTL compared to this.



My point is that consumer class machines are cheaply built.

A 17" consumer "gaming" laptop with a low end screen is less desirable than a 15" business class machine with a mid end screen for some people.

If you owned any real workstations (which I doubt) you will understand why I'm disappointed with consumer class machines.

Also shouldn't gaming laptops have good screens so gamers can appreciate all the colorful work that some creators use in their games?

The consumer market doesn't suit me anymore so maybe that's why I'm hating on this deal.

...Too many bad experiences with consumer class warranty and consumer class build quality.

dubleo 08-15-2012 03:02 PM

Anyway if anyone buys this laptop and wants a good external screen to go with it , buy one of these:

http://slickdeals.net/f/5055128-2...e-shipping

You will need a DVI to HDMI converter though or something similar.

ctsinc 08-15-2012 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubleo (Post 52489448)
My point is that consumer class machines are cheaply built.

A 17" consumer "gaming" laptop with a low end screen is less desirable than a 15" business class machine with a mid end screen for some people.

If you owned any real workstations (which I doubt) you will understand why I'm disappointed with consumer class machines.

Also shouldn't gaming laptops have good screens so gamers can appreciate all the colorful work that some creators use in their games?

The consumer market doesn't suit me anymore so maybe that's why I'm hating on this deal.

...Too many bad experiences with consumer class warranty and consumer class build quality.

LOL I don't know what you're trying to assert. I could buy a few hundred of your laptops with just 1 year of income. The point is that your laptop doens't bring anything special to the table compared with even my DV7T, which also crushes yours in performance. The screen looks pretty nice too, and if I want something larger than 1080p, I just hook it up to the monitor on my desk.

dubleo 08-15-2012 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctsinc (Post 52492566)
LOL I don't know what you're trying to assert. I could buy a few hundred of your laptops with just 1 year of income. The point is that your laptop doens't bring anything special to the table compared with even my DV7T, which also crushes yours in performance. The screen looks pretty nice too, and if I want something larger than 1080p, I just hook it up to the monitor on my desk.

You're getting kind of off topic. Build quality is also important. Warranty service is important , etc. Obviously you also don't do any computer work which is optimized for a workstation GPU so you wouldn't see the benefits.

If you make enough money to buy a few hundred $800 laptops a year you probably don't to be on slickdeals.

Assume you buy 300 laptops at $800 each , that would be $240,000.

If you buy higher quality laptops you don't have to deal with issues like you've mentioned before:

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I have both a Sager 8170 and an HP DV7T. This is my SECOND one because the first one arrived with the sound bar off kilter and the seam where the top and bottom meet was not tight. Every time I played music the thing would make a buzzing noise because the parts were loose and rattling. Also even this second one, which is much better assembled than the first, is clearly not very well put together The seams are not tight at all. Another thing that is not a quality control problem but more of a design fubar -- is the power cable plugs into the right side of the laptop, which interferes with having the mouse directly on the right of the computer. I have to move it down a bit as a result.

HollyGolightly 08-15-2012 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paintballer301 (Post 52460512)
Thank you :):hug:

That is for the 15" for $850. This is for the 17" at $760

No, that thread is for both the 15" and the 17"... Plenty of people have gotten it with the $200 E-GC and $150 coupon.. Check out the thread:

http://slickdeals.net/f/5040776-D...ng?&page=5

ctsinc 08-15-2012 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubleo (Post 52492778)
You're getting kind of off topic. Build quality is also important. Warranty service is important , etc. Obviously you also don't do any computer work which is optimized for a workstation GPU so you wouldn't see the benefits.

If you make enough money to buy a few hundred $800 laptops a year you probably don't to be on slickdeals.

Assume you buy 300 laptops at $800 each , that would be $240,000.

If you buy higher quality laptops you don't have to deal with issues like you've mentioned before:

I'll tell you what. Send me an animation of your most complex rendering. I'll run it on my [still way faster than yours] 7690M. We'll compare FPS. If yours is faster, I'll upload a video of myself holding a sign saying, "dubleo pwns me". If mine is faster however, you should do the same, saying "ctsinc pwns me". How is it?

paintballer301 08-15-2012 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctsinc (Post 52493810)
I'll tell you what. Send me an animation of your most complex rendering. I'll run it on my [still way faster than yours] 7690M. We'll compare FPS. If yours is faster, I'll upload a video of myself holding a sign saying, "dubleo pwns me". If mine is faster however, you should do the same, saying "ctsinc pwns me". How is it?

Yes i want to see this.. the show down is on!

dubleo 08-15-2012 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paintballer301 (Post 52494148)
Yes i want to see this.. the show down is on!


That's getting more off topic. The laptop that's on this topic is the GT 650M.

On the SPECviewperf 11 benchmark the GT 650M gets the following (from notebook review)

SPECviewperf 11 - Catia 1920x1080
min: 7.31 avg: 7.9 (19%) max: 8.42 fps

SPECviewperf 11 - Ensight 1920x1080
min: 21.63 avg: 22.2 (44%) max: 22.77 fps

SPECviewperf 11 - Lightwave 1920x1080
min: 14.29 avg: 14.6 (27%) max: 14.98 fps

SPECviewperf 11 - Maya 1920x1080
min: 11.92 avg: 12 (13%) max: 12.08 fps

SPECviewperf 11 - Pro/ENGINEER 1920x1080
min: 1.15 avg: 1.2 (8%) max: 1.19 fps

SPECviewperf 11 - SolidWorks 1920x1080
min: 7.25 avg: 8 (15%) max: 8.77 fps

SPECviewperf 11 - Tcvis 1920x1080
min: 0.93 avg: 1 (2%) max: 0.98 fps

SPECviewperf 11 - Siemens NX 1920x1080
min: 3.03 avg: 3.2 (8%) max: 3.32 fps

Source: http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVID...887.0.html



On the SPECviewperf 11 benchmark the Quadro 1000m (slower version of mine) gets the following (from notebook review)

SPECviewperf 11 - Catia 1920x1080
min: 15.04 avg: 15 (35%) max: 15.04 fps

SPECviewperf 11 - Ensight 1920x1080
min: 11.19 avg: 11.2 (22%) max: 11.19 fps


SPECviewperf 11 - Lightwave 1920x1080
min: 35.99 avg: 36 (66%) max: 35.99 fps

SPECviewperf 11 - Maya 1920x1080
min: 33.48 avg: 33.5 (37%) max: 33.48 fps

SPECviewperf 11 - Pro/ENGINEER 1920x1080
min: 8.32 avg: 8.3 (56%) max: 8.32 fps

SPECviewperf 11 - SolidWorks 1920x1080
min: 25 avg: 25 (46%) max: 25 fps

SPECviewperf 11 - Tcvis 1920x1080
min: 16.17 avg: 16.2 (39%) max: 16.17 fps

SPECviewperf 11 - Siemens NX 1920x1080
min: 13.3 avg: 13.3 (32%) max: 13.3 fps

Source: http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVID...317.0.html



Here is the official site for the benchmark : http://www.spec.org/gwpg/gpc.stat...1info.html



AMD uses a very different architecture compared to Nvidia so I put this for reference.

The 7670( DDR3 and lower clocked version of the 7690) scores the following (according to notebookcheck again)

SPECviewperf 11 - Catia 1920x1080
min: 5.82 avg: 5.8 (14%) max: 5.82 fps

SPECviewperf 11 - Ensight 1920x1080
min: 13.66 avg: 13.7 (27%) max: 13.66 fps

SPECviewperf 11 - Lightwave 1920x1080
min: 22.2 avg: 22.2 (40%) max: 22.2 fps

SPECviewperf 11 - Maya 1920x1080
min: 10.51 avg: 10.5 (12%) max: 10.51 fps

SPECviewperf 11 - Pro/ENGINEER 1920x1080
min: 2.18 avg: 2.2 (15%) max: 2.18 fps

SPECviewperf 11 - SolidWorks 1920x1080
min: 18.19 avg: 18.2 (34%) max: 18.19 fps

SPECviewperf 11 - Tcvis 1920x1080
min: 5.14 avg: 5.1 (12%) max: 5.14 fps

SPECviewperf 11 - Siemens NX 1920x1080
min: 5.94 avg: 5.9 (14%) max: 5.94 fps


http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-...483.0.html

ctsinc 08-15-2012 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubleo (Post 52496218)
The 7670( DDR3 and lower clocked version of the 7690) scores the following (according to notebookcheck again)

I saw this, and just decided to ignore the rest of your post.

7670M = upgraded 6650M
7690M = upgraded 6770M

I didnt even look that up.

Bitech 08-16-2012 02:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raynold101 (Post 52487656)
they dont want to continue making outdated products and parts. why would they really need to make so many backup parts if the parts don't break?

Just in case the products break WITHIN the warranty period, including extended warranties bought by the customer.
Quote:

actually from what I can tell, quite a few people in slickdeal in fact, do spend a lot of money, buying multiples copies of the same product, or stocking up a specif type of product, computers in this case, then flip the for more profit. so your theory dont exactly apply here.
flip? I don't understand your English
Quote:

things don't have to be defective to start breaking after certain time. things naturally start breaking over-time, and depending on the user that can either happen fast or slowly, and for the average consumer, these big companies calculated that it usually breaks after the warranty.
Well yes of course, computers start breaking after 10 years, which is obviously waaaay after their warranties expire, and by that time the user will already have newer computers anyway.
Quote:

and you just explain to yourself, the difference between this and actual high end laptops.
I was explaining that your definition of "high end" is your own personal definition, so it does not apply to many people.

And please work on your English. Take more English classes, because I'm having a hard time understand you with the mistakes you are making.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubleo (Post 52496218)
That's getting more off topic. The laptop that's on this topic is the GT 650M.

On the SPECviewperf 11 benchmark the GT 650M gets the following (from notebook review)

You forgot the gaming benchmarks:

GT 650m

Dirt 3:
low: 176
med: 110
high: 80
ultra: 26
Fifa 11
low: 487
med: 303
high: 236
ultra: 156
Mafia 2
low: 87
med: 72
high: 61
ultra: 37
StarCraft 2
low: 231
med: 81
high: 67
ultra: 38

Quadro 1000m


Dirt 3:
low: 140.5
med: 54
high: 34.6
ultra: 12.7
Fifa 11
low: 450
med: 192
high: 132
ultra: 73
Mafia 2
low: 64.2
med: 50.3
high: 41.5
ultra: 25.1
StarCraft 2
low: 121
high: 100
ultra: 53.2

7670m

Dirt 3:
low: 85
med: 50
high: 42
ultra: 14.1
Fifa 11
low: 224
med: 127
high: 85
ultra: 52
Mafia 2
low: 60
med: 50
high: 43
ultra: 24
StarCraft 2
low: 170.4
med: 48
high: 31
ultra: 18.9

Raynold101 08-16-2012 04:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bitech (Post 52501528)
Just in case the products break WITHIN the warranty period, including extended warranties bought by the customer.

Then again whats the point of the limited warranty? Why not give all customers full warranty? Do you even know what limited warranty is?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bitech (Post 52501528)
flip? I don't understand your English

Dictionary.com Unabridged
flip
[flip] verb, flipped, flip·ping, noun
verb (used with object)
1.
to toss or put in motion with a sudden impulse, as with a snap of a finger and thumb, especially so as to cause to turn over in the air: to flip a coin.
2.
to move (something) suddenly or jerkily.
3.
to turn over, especially with a short rapid gesture: to flip pancakes with a spatula.
4.
Slang. to make (someone) insane, irrational, angry, or highly excited (usually followed by out).
5.
Finance. to resell, especially quickly, or to refinance, as a mortgage loan.


Take your own advice and take some classes maybe?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bitech (Post 52501528)
Well yes of course, computers start breaking after 10 years, which is obviously waaaay after their warranties expire, and by that time the user will already have newer computers anyway.

Not all computers can last 10 years. Older computers yeah, probably those things are built like a tank, but these new ones, just like most new things now, they just aren't built with the same standards anymore. Most consumer items just aren't built to last anymore.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bitech (Post 52501528)
I was explaining that your definition of "high end" is your own personal definition, so it does not apply to many people.

I'm pretty sure everyone agrees, yes this has "high end" specs with the i7, the 1080 screen and the 650... but that's it... the case, and everything thing else is an Inspiron. That is the XPS line. There's no reason for the XPS line if the Inspiron is "high end" is there? You'll never see any Inspirion labeled as "high end laptop"

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bitech (Post 52501528)
And please work on your English. Take more English classes, because I'm having a hard time understand you with the mistakes you are making.

Just because you don't understand my English doesn't mean I need to take more English classes, it seems that you're the only one having issues understanding my English so perhaps it is your English that needs brushing up?

MageVortex 08-16-2012 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paintballer301 (Post 52494148)
Yes i want to see this.. the show down is on!

You may, or may not, want to know that now, you can get this for $50 cheaper through the
$50 giftcard with $300 egiftcard purchase
. Meaning you can buy 2 $300 dollar giftcards, which will give you 2 $50 giftcards bonus. you then combine the 2 $300 GC's into a $600 GC, use that as 1 of your forms of payment, use a $50 giftcard as anotehr, then your regular CC (or Dell CC, whatever) and bam.
You just knocked $50 off the price, as well as getting yet ANOTHER $50 GC to do whatever you want with.

Am i wrong?

atoneapone 08-16-2012 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bitech (Post 52501528)
You forgot the gaming benchmarks:

nice work comparing the benchmarks etc. really interesting in comparing 2nd class graphics to 1st class graphics cards. :nod:

Not sure about what's really better between the 2 debated laptops.... Dell or Lenovo. I've always thought the Lenovo was slightly more reliable, but personal guess based on different people complaining in forums across the last couple of years (I know I know that's not completely reliable to assess anything we purchase).

Based on seeing the specs of both compared machines, they both look amazing at $750ish price. Maybe someone can come up with a list of all the best deals between $600-$850 for i7 iveybridge or AMD A10 + strong graphics laptops, build quality, reliability, and name brand etc. I've only been paying attention to middle priced (middle end) laptops (since they all eventually break anyways), but I find high end laptop comparisons like this very interesting....I'd just hate any electronic to fail & die on us especially out of the warranty.

How good of a deal is the one below (I like everything except the lack of 1080p screen & maybe $100 too high)?
>>>http://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrar...14A01A0A81

paintballer301 08-16-2012 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atoneapone (Post 52505708)
nice work comparing the benchmarks etc. really interesting in comparing 2nd class graphics to 1st class graphics cards. :nod:

Not sure about what's really better between the 2 debated laptops.... Dell or Lenovo. I've always thought the Lenovo was slightly more reliable, but personal guess based on different people complaining in forums across the last couple of years (I know I know that's not completely reliable to assess anything we purchase).

Based on seeing the specs of both compared machines, they both look amazing at $750ish price. Maybe someone can come up with a list of all the best deals between $600-$850 for i7 iveybridge or AMD A10 + strong graphics laptops, build quality, reliability, and name brand etc. I've only been paying attention to middle priced (middle end) laptops (since they all eventually break anyways), but I find high end laptop comparisons like this very interesting....I'd just hate any electronic to fail & die on us especially out of the warranty.

How good of a deal is the one below (I like everything except the lack of 1080p screen & maybe $100 too high)?
>>>http://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrar...14A01A0A81

No SSD
No 1080P screen (and it is smaller - 15.6")
No back-lit keyboard
$100 too expensive

If you are looking for a laptop TODAY and need it, then I would get it.

Since this is Slickdeals, I would suggest to wait it out a little longer (or even try and get this deal I posted in this thread) and there is a new deal that can be added onto this deal making it $50-100 cheaper. So this Dell 17R SE i7 for $650-700 shipped (like i said before YMMV) would be a freaking crackin' deal!



Quote:

Originally Posted by MageVortex (Post 52505170)
You may, or may not, want to know that now, you can get this for $50 cheaper through the
$50 giftcard with $300 egiftcard purchase
. Meaning you can buy 2 $300 dollar giftcards, which will give you 2 $50 giftcards bonus. you then combine the 2 $300 GC's into a $600 GC, use that as 1 of your forms of payment, use a $50 giftcard as anotehr, then your regular CC (or Dell CC, whatever) and bam.
You just knocked $50 off the price, as well as getting yet ANOTHER $50 GC to do whatever you want with.

Am i wrong?

I came across this deal yesterday, I am definitely looking into it...

If you have already ordered and it has "SHIPPED" then you are out of luck.

If it has not "SHIPPED" then you have to cancel/re-order.

UNLESS you have a dell credit card (i dont think anyone has..) then you are able to change payment methods even after it has shipped.

I am going to call up later today and try my best to get a manager to over-ride the system.

I will keep everyone updated... image getting this laptop for even cheaper! haha i will try my best.

Question: Since we are buying (2) 300$ GC's, doesnt that mean we get (2) $50 free gift cardS? Whiich means it can be $100 cheaper (making the laptop $650 shipped!!!) OR i might of heard you cannot stack both $50 in the same order?

Neon22 08-16-2012 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paintballer301 (Post 52514390)
No SSD
No 1080P screen (and it is smaller - 15.6")
No back-lit keyboard
$100 too expensive

If you are looking for a laptop TODAY and need it, then I would get it.

Since this is Slickdeals, I would suggest to wait it out a little longer (or even try and get this deal I posted in this thread) and there is a new deal that can be added onto this deal making it $50-100 cheaper. So this Dell 17R SE i7 for $650-700 shipped (like i said before YMMV) would be a freaking crackin' deal!





I came across this deal yesterday, I am definitely looking into it...

If you have already ordered and it has "SHIPPED" then you are out of luck.

If it has not "SHIPPED" then you have to cancel/re-order.

UNLESS you have a dell credit card (i dont think anyone has..) then you are able to change payment methods even after it has shipped.

I am going to call up later today and try my best to get a manager to over-ride the system.

I will keep everyone updated... image getting this laptop for even cheaper! haha i will try my best.

Question: Since we are buying (2) 300$ GC's, doesnt that mean we get (2) $50 free gift cardS? Whiich means it can be $100 cheaper (making the laptop $650 shipped!!!) OR i might of heard you cannot stack both $50 in the same order?


you cant stack the $50gc..

MageVortex 08-16-2012 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paintballer301 (Post 52514390)
Question: Since we are buying (2) 300$ GC's, doesnt that mean we get (2) $50 free gift cardS? Whiich means it can be $100 cheaper (making the laptop $650 shipped!!!) OR i might of heard you cannot stack both $50 in the same order?

You will noly be able to use 1 of the $50 GC's, as i stated a few posts up i believe.
you can use a max of 3 forms of payment. 1 of the combined GC's (combine the various $300 GC's youbought into 1), then 1 $50 egift, and then your CC or whatnot.

paintballer301 08-16-2012 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MageVortex (Post 52515738)
You will noly be able to use 1 of the $50 GC's, as i stated a few posts up i believe.
you can use a max of 3 forms of payment. 1 of the combined GC's (combine the various $300 GC's youbought into 1), then 1 $50 egift, and then your CC or whatnot.

So i could buy (3) $300 GC's and get (3) $50 GC's, use one of them, and keep 2?

So in total I am saving $150!!

MageVortex 08-16-2012 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paintballer301 (Post 52515884)
So i could buy (3) $300 GC's and get (3) $50 GC's, use one of them, and keep 2?

So in total I am saving $150!!

Yes and No. In total you are SAVING $50, and getting $100 in gc's for future use in purchases. Bear in mind, I have heard/been told taht they always require you to use a CC for at least $1 of a purchase...but that shouldn't matter much when it comes to this situation, as you can then just purchase something that is $101, use the 2 remaining egifts to pay for it with your CC to pay the last $1.

Neon22 08-16-2012 02:34 PM

OP can u message me the order number, the dell rep wants to see it...

paintballer301 08-16-2012 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neon22 (Post 52517290)
OP can u message me the order number, the dell rep wants to see it...

PM'd!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by MageVortex (Post 52516214)
Yes and No. In total you are SAVING $50, and getting $100 in gc's for future use in purchases. Bear in mind, I have heard/been told taht they always require you to use a CC for at least $1 of a purchase...but that shouldn't matter much when it comes to this situation, as you can then just purchase something that is $101, use the 2 remaining egifts to pay for it with your CC to pay the last $1.

Just got off the phone with a manager... he said that he would allow me to change my credit card, but anything that is a COUPON or GIFTCARD had to be used at the time of purchase... then i told him i was a dell advantage member and i didn't receive 2 day shipping (it will be 3 days :P) and he said that he will give me a $50 coupon!! So in the end, that phone call saved me $50... I am happy, it is better than nothing :P What do you think the "coupon" is? do you think it will be a giftcard that i can sell? (fingers crossed...)

Traaginen 08-16-2012 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paintballer301 (Post 52517640)
PM'd!!

Mind shooting me that order # PM too? :)

I had quite the time dealing with the reps earlier. Spent a couple hours talking to them without getting anywhere. Every time I got someone helpful I was disconnected; apparently they had some sort of system update going on. Ended up with a Manager who just kept telling me they couldn't give me the $200 GC + $150 coupon because of "consistent promotion expectations", which was obviously a load of crap. Apparently they're on to this, because I had a couple reps tell me that as of yesterday their policy was to not accept both promotions. Of course that hasn't stopped several people from getting it anyway, so I'll try again later.

dubleo 08-16-2012 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctsinc (Post 52496912)
I saw this, and just decided to ignore the rest of your post.

7670M = upgraded 6650M
7690M = upgraded 6770M

I didnt even look that up.

Quote:

According to AMD, select DDR3 models are available based on the faster clocked Thames-XTX chip. The similarly named Radeon HD 7690M XT is based on the same architectural core as the 7690M, but offers higher clock speeds with GDDR5 memory. In essence, the XT variant is a renamed Radeon HD 6770M.
Quote:

AMD Radeon HD 7690M, 725 MHz core, 900 MHz DDR3 -> 6750M
AMD Radeon HD 7690M, 600 MHz core, GDDR5 -> 6750M
AMD Radeon HD 7690M XT, 725 MHz core, GDDR5 -> 6770M
Just run SPECviewperf 11 on your 7690M ( NON XT) then.


You should look up things before you post.

Since it's such a fast card you shouldn't have a problem running a benchmark optimized for workstations GPUs , right?





Workstation GPUs are superior for WORKSTATION level work.

Even if you compare a 6970M to a Quadro 1000m , you will find that the 6970M does lose in some areas.
According to your logic it should win in every area , but it doesn't.

dubleo 08-16-2012 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bitech (Post 52501528)
Just in case the products break WITHIN the warranty period, including extended warranties bought by the customer.

flip? I don't understand your English

Well yes of course, computers start breaking after 10 years, which is obviously waaaay after their warranties expire, and by that time the user will already have newer computers anyway.

I was explaining that your definition of "high end" is your own personal definition, so it does not apply to many people.

And please work on your English. Take more English classes, because I'm having a hard time understand you with the mistakes you are making.



You forgot the gaming benchmarks:

GT 650m

Dirt 3:
low: 176
med: 110
high: 80
ultra: 26
Fifa 11
low: 487
med: 303
high: 236
ultra: 156
Mafia 2
low: 87
med: 72
high: 61
ultra: 37
StarCraft 2
low: 231
med: 81
high: 67
ultra: 38

Quadro 1000m


Dirt 3:
low: 140.5
med: 54
high: 34.6
ultra: 12.7
Fifa 11
low: 450
med: 192
high: 132
ultra: 73
Mafia 2
low: 64.2
med: 50.3
high: 41.5
ultra: 25.1
StarCraft 2
low: 121
high: 100
ultra: 53.2

7670m

Dirt 3:
low: 85
med: 50
high: 42
ultra: 14.1
Fifa 11
low: 224
med: 127
high: 85
ultra: 52
Mafia 2
low: 60
med: 50
high: 43
ultra: 24
StarCraft 2
low: 170.4
med: 48
high: 31
ultra: 18.9

Workstation GPUs are meant to do workstation work. You can check workstation benchmarks or run one on your own cards and see how well it does with it.

Other cards like the Geforce series are meant for people who play games instead of doing work.

Geforce for gaming
Quadro for work

deluzion 08-16-2012 04:40 PM

No Gigabit on 17"
 
I looked into this laptop a while back and apparently it does NOT have gigabit. The original post lists 10/100/1000 network, yet I am unable to see that when i configure one. The specs show Integrated 10/100 Network Card which unless it has very recently changed, is accurate.

Anyone looking to use a laptop as a media streamer on their TV will probably want to take this into consideration as copying huge files will take like forever.

Not sure what Dell was thinking, the 15 has gigabit however.

dubleo 08-16-2012 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deluzion (Post 52519874)
I looked into this laptop a while back and apparently it does NOT have gigabit. The original post lists 10/100/1000 network, yet I am unable to see that when i configure one. The specs show Integrated 10/100 Network Card which unless it has very recently changed, is accurate.

Anyone looking to use a laptop as a media streamer on their TV will probably want to take this into consideration as copying huge files will take like forever.

Not sure what Dell was thinking, the 15 has gigabit however.

Did you call Dell and ask them about it?

ctsinc 08-16-2012 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubleo (Post 52519500)
Just run SPECviewperf 11 on your 7690M ( NON XT) then.


You should look up things before you post.

Since it's such a fast card you shouldn't have a problem running a benchmark optimized for workstations GPUs , right?





Workstation GPUs are superior for WORKSTATION level work.

Even if you compare a 6970M to a Quadro 1000m , you will find that the 6970M does lose in some areas.
According to your logic it should win in every area , but it doesn't.

I hope you realize that a huge reason for the different performance is the OpenGL support. The performance could be greatly improved if the drivers were optimized for such. As it stands, they're mostly optimized for Directx. I tried to find the 3d modeling version of the drivers for AMD. Nvidia has them available, but I'm not sure if AMD does. I would imagine the wouldn't release OGL optimized drivers for their mainstream line, because it would take away heavily from the "workstation" line.

deluzion 08-16-2012 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubleo (Post 52519932)
Did you call Dell and ask them about it?

I read the full review from notebook forum, they quoted a Dell rep as saying he cannot publicly say why it does not have gigabit, and verified that it does not. Guessing someone screwed up big time, or they just figured nobody uses wired networking.

Your guess why is as good as mine since any mid range laptop made in the past 5? years has had gigabit. Deal breaker for me :/

Maybe thats whats 'special' about it lol

Bitech 08-16-2012 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubleo (Post 52519804)
Workstation GPUs are meant to do workstation work. You can check workstation benchmarks or run one on your own cards and see how well it does with it.

Other cards like the Geforce series are meant for people who play games instead of doing work.

Geforce for gaming
Quadro for work

Exactly

So why did you bother mentioning your workstation in this thread when this Dell isn't even a workstation? I don't see what you're trying to accomplish here if you're trying to compare a workstation to a gaming laptop.

paintballer301 08-16-2012 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubleo (Post 52519932)
Did you call Dell and ask them about it?

Quote:

Originally Posted by deluzion (Post 52520462)
I read the full review from notebook forum, they quoted a Dell rep as saying he cannot publicly say why it does not have gigabit, and verified that it does not. Guessing someone screwed up big time, or they just figured nobody uses wired networking.

Your guess why is as good as mine since any mid range laptop made in the past 5? years has had gigabit. Deal breaker for me :/

Maybe thats whats 'special' about it lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by deluzion (Post 52519874)
I looked into this laptop a while back and apparently it does NOT have gigabit. The original post lists 10/100/1000 network, yet I am unable to see that when i configure one. The specs show Integrated 10/100 Network Card which unless it has very recently changed, is accurate.

Anyone looking to use a laptop as a media streamer on their TV will probably want to take this into consideration as copying huge files will take like forever.

Not sure what Dell was thinking, the 15 has gigabit however.


To everyone who is unsure about the network card, on my order it is:

ITEM #: 430-3605 Integrated 10/100/1000 Network Card

This is a gigabit card

I am sure it is because it has "1000"

paintballer301 08-16-2012 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paintballer301 (Post 52521240)
To everyone who is unsure about the network card, on my order it is:

ITEM #: 430-3605 Integrated 10/100/1000 Network Card

Is this a gigabit card?

I am pretty sure it is because it has "1000" right?


I just checked and it is infact a "GIGABIT" network card.

I did not have to "configure" this, it just comes with it stock!

Also anyone who still wants this deal, do not forget to stack the (3) $300 GC's and you will end up saving/gaining $150 FREE in dell cards... making the actual price of the laptop $600!!! whattttt

deluzion 08-16-2012 06:33 PM

Hmmm
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by paintballer301 (Post 52521290)
I just checked and it is infact a "GIGABIT" network card.

I did not have to "configure" this, it just comes with it stock!

Also anyone who still wants this deal, do not forget to stack the (3) $300 GC's and you will end up saving/gaining $150 FREE in dell cards... making the actual price of the laptop $600!!! whattttt

Odd, maybe it's all a typo, Dell's tech specs on the product page list 10/100 and when I add one to cart it shows this.

Inspiron 17R Inspiron 17R Notebook (Inspiron 7720)
Operating System Windows® 7 Home Premium, 64Bit, English
Processor 3rd Generation Intel® Core™ i7-3610QM processor (6M Cache, up to 3.3 GHz)
Memory 8GB Shared Dual Channel DDR3 Memory
Keyboard Dell Backlit Keyboard with Multi-touch Touchpad, English-Int'l
LCD 17.3" Full High Definition (1080p) LED Display with Anti-Glare
Video Card NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M GDDR5 2GB
Wireless Driver Intel® Centrino® Wireless 2230, 2x2 bgn + Bluetooth
Hard Drive 1TB 5400RPM SATA HDD + 32GB mSATA SSD w/ Intel Smart Response
System Color Stealth Black Anodized Aluminum
Network Card Integrated 10/100 Network Card

But if you ordered a 17" and your invoice lists a 10/100/1000, then it apparently shipped with a gigabit network...maybe they used to not have it, and now they do? Kinda tempted to buy one if it really does.

paintballer301 08-16-2012 06:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by paintballer301 (Post 52521240)
To everyone who is unsure about the network card, on my order it is:

ITEM #: 430-3605 Integrated 10/100/1000 Network Card

Is this a gigabit card?

I am pretty sure it is because it has "1000" right?

Quote:

Originally Posted by deluzion (Post 52522172)
Odd, maybe it's all a typo, Dell's tech specs on the product page list 10/100 and when I add one to cart it shows this.

Inspiron 17R Inspiron 17R Notebook (Inspiron 7720)
Operating System Windows® 7 Home Premium, 64Bit, English
Processor 3rd Generation Intel® Core™ i7-3610QM processor (6M Cache, up to 3.3 GHz)
Memory 8GB Shared Dual Channel DDR3 Memory
Keyboard Dell Backlit Keyboard with Multi-touch Touchpad, English-Int'l
LCD 17.3" Full High Definition (1080p) LED Display with Anti-Glare
Video Card NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M GDDR5 2GB
Wireless Driver Intel® Centrino® Wireless 2230, 2x2 bgn + Bluetooth
Hard Drive 1TB 5400RPM SATA HDD + 32GB mSATA SSD w/ Intel Smart Response
System Color Stealth Black Anodized Aluminum
Network Card Integrated 10/100 Network Card

But if you ordered a 17" and your invoice lists a 10/100/1000, then it apparently shipped with a gigabit network...maybe they used to not have it, and now they do? Kinda tempted to buy one if it really does.


Just triple checked it and it does have the 1000... I took a screen shot on my current laptop (not the 17r se) and i attached it.. let me know if you can see it or not and i will try again! :)

*double click the picture below, then it takes it into a different page, then it gives you the ability to zoom and you can see evrything :D

deluzion 08-16-2012 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paintballer301 (Post 52522436)
Just triple checked it and it does have the 1000... I took a screen shot on my current laptop (not the 17r se) and i attached it.. let me know if you can see it or not and i will try again! :)

*double click the picture below, then it takes it into a different page, then it gives you the ability to zoom and you can see evrything :D

Awesome. Apparently I stand corrected. I read several review sites that confirmed it had a Realtek 10/100. I guess Dell did a refresh lately and finally put in a 1000 card. gonna price one up now :P

Finst3r 08-16-2012 10:43 PM

So i wanna get a laptop that will play COD MW3 with nice graphics, no lag, and frame rate issues ... Is this alaptop that can do that for me?

paintballer301 08-17-2012 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Finst3r (Post 52526954)
So i wanna get a laptop that will play COD MW3 with nice graphics, no lag, and frame rate issues ... Is this alaptop that can do that for me?

Yes i believe so..

I configured this laptop on HP / Dell with same configurations and I am looking at ~ $1400-1600.

It has a fantastic video card... (used in Alienwares)..

then you have the THIRD gen i7... absolute beast

then you have 8GB DDR3 ram.... this is pretty much all the ram you need for MW3

then you can install MW3 on the SSD for an even better gameplay (i think)

then add in the 17.3" 1080P screen.. good resolution..

You are looking at a pretty sick gaming machine for *ymmv* ~$600...

fark yah its good lmao :woot:

HollyGolightly 08-17-2012 09:30 AM

Just beware.. The $150 off coupon is DEAD, according to the original thread with this deal located here...

I was thinking of buying another computer; however, I tried the the $150 off code last night and it is dead... Someone else confirmed it was dead too.. I posted a $25 off code in the original thread, so that might help.. but the code we've been using - was supposed to be for only 400 uses and they've been used up...

Just wanted to write a post to caution everyone that it might be a (partially) dead deal..

Neon22 08-17-2012 02:53 PM

there is a $1 charge for dell advantage?

matas 08-18-2012 02:01 PM

no more 150 off coupon? damn i missed it

paintballer301 08-20-2012 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neon22 (Post 52544740)
there is a $1 charge for dell advantage?

Yes that is what happened to me too.

Quote:

Originally Posted by matas (Post 52562806)
no more 150 off coupon? damn i missed it

Yes unfortunately, all of them are gone.


I just sold mine today for $972 cash money!!! woooot :woot:

and i got to keep photoshop and premiere for freeezyyy!

I also got a call from a Dell rep. saying that he is processing my $200 gift card, my $50 complaint gift card, AND my 5% (50$) dell advantage gift card!!

Then as soon as i get them i am gonna flip them :D

JBond69 08-20-2012 06:02 PM

Cofirmed Dell inspiron series are junks...they will die within the 1st year!!!
good luck for those bought it without extended warranty!!!

RahulJ9067 08-28-2012 08:56 PM

Hii...seems to be a grt deal...can you please tel me what kind of e-coupon they have send..

paintballer301 09-03-2012 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HollyGolightly (Post 52535698)
Just beware.. The $150 off coupon is DEAD, according to the original thread with this deal located here...

I was thinking of buying another computer; however, I tried the the $150 off code last night and it is dead... Someone else confirmed it was dead too.. I posted a $25 off code in the original thread, so that might help.. but the code we've been using - was supposed to be for only 400 uses and they've been used up...

Just wanted to write a post to caution everyone that it might be a (partially) dead deal..


I just got my dell giftcard today..For some reason they gave me $248 epromotion gift card. Then they gave me $50 coupon. and another $50 dell advantage gift card.. so i got 100$ more for hahaha

stevedensmore 09-04-2012 05:51 PM

"I just tried to get in on this deal with multiple reps, wasn't happening." Nevermind, they ended up giving me a heck of a deal. Good looking out, OP!

MrHookup 09-19-2012 09:39 AM

Got this same spec no hassle certified refurbished in the outlet with coupon code SSMRCZ272NJTMM for 755...

RealD3Al 11-12-2012 07:53 PM

if you have the time the deal is very good


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