Shuttle XH61 LGA 1155 Mini ITX Barebone System w/ HDMI + Intel Pentium G620 2.6GHz LGA 1155 Dual Core Desktop Processor $185 + Free Shipping
 

Shuttle XH61 Support for 2nd Generation Intel Core 65W Processor Family Intel Socket H2(LGA1155) Intel H61 none 1 x HDMI Barebone
Free CPU with purchase!
$199.99
Your Price: $184.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Pro...01125-L07C

Shuttle XH61 LGA 1155 Mini ITX Barebone System w/ HDMI + Intel Pentium G620 2.6GHz LGA 1155 Dual Core Desktop Processor $185 + Free Shipping
 

Newegg has Shuttle XH61 Intel H61 LGA 1155 Mini ITX Barebone System + Intel Pentium G620 2.6GHz LGA 1155 Dual Core Desktop Processor (automatically added to cart) for $185 with free shipping. Thanks Selma

Note, the Shuttle XH61 includes only a motherboard, cpu cooler and power supply.

Specs for Shuttle XH61

• CPU Type: Intel Socket LGA1155
• Memory Supported: 2x DDR3 1333/1066
• Back Panel Ports: 1x HDMI, 1x VGA, 4x USB, 1x RJ45, 2x PS/2

Price Research: Our research indicates that Shuttle XH61 Intel H61 LGA 1155 Mini ITX Barebone System + Intel Pentium G620 2.6GHz CPU is $63 lower (25% savings) than the next best available price from a reputable merchant with prices ranging from $248 to $264. - yuugotserved

This post can and should be edited by users like you :)
 

Folks have had good luck using these little Shuttles as Hackintoshes. [wordpress.com]

Free CPU is nice, but if you're looking to drop in a different one, here's the list [shuttle.com] of supported (low power 65w max) CPUs. Ivy Bridge is not supported.

CPU Family Model number Passmark
Celeron® (LowPower) Intel® Celeron® Processor G440 (1M Cache, 1.60 GHz) N/A
Celeron® (LowPower) Intel® Celeron® Processor G530T (2M Cache, 2.00 GHz) N/A
Pentium® (Low Power) Intel® Pentium® Processor G620T (3M Cache, 2.20 GHz) 2261
Celeron® Intel® Celeron® Processor G530 (2M Cache, 2.40 GHz) 2274
Celeron® Intel® Celeron® Processor G540 (2M Cache, 2.50 GHz) 2348
Pentium® (Low Power) Intel® Pentium® Processor G630T (3M Cache, 2.30 GHz) 2354
Pentium® Intel® Pentium® Processor G620 (3M Cache, 2.60 GHz) 2483 <-- Bundled with this FREE CPU
Pentium® Intel® Pentium® Processor G630 (3M Cache, 2.70 GHz) 2613
Pentium® Intel® Pentium® Processor G850 (3M Cache, 2.90 GHz) 2801
Pentium® Intel® Pentium® Processor G840 (3M Cache, 2.80 GHz) 2807
Pentium® Intel® Pentium® Processor G860 (3M Cache, 3.00 GHz) 2820
Core™ i3 (Low Power) Intel® Core™ i3-2120T Processor (3M Cache, 2.60 GHz) 3032
Core™ i3 (Low Power) Intel® Core™ i3-2100T Processor (3M Cache, 2.50 GHz) 3279
Core™ i3 Intel® Core™ i3-2100 Processor (3M Cache, 3.10 GHz) 3866
Core™ i3 Intel® Core™ i3-2105 Processor (3M Cache, 3.10 GHz) 3944
Core™ i5 (Low Power) Intel® Core™ i5-2390T Processor (3M Cache, 2.70 GHz) 3969
Core™ i3 Intel® Core™ i3-2120 Processor (3M Cache, 3.30 GHz) 4216
Core™ i3 Intel® Core™ i3-2125 Processor (3M Cache, 3.30 GHz) 4229
Core™ i3 Intel® Core™ i3-2130 Processor (3M Cache, 3.40 GHz) 4427
Core™ i5 (Low Power) Intel® Core™ i5-2500T Processor (6M Cache, 2.30 GHz) 4865
Core™ i5 (Low Power) Intel® Core™ i5-2400S Processor (6M Cache, 2.50 GHz) 5057
Core™ i5 (Low Power) Intel® Core™ i5-2405S Processor (6M Cache, 2.50 GHz) 5119
Core™ i5 (Low Power) Intel® Core™ i5-2500S Processor (6M Cache, 2.70 GHz) 5242
Core™ i7 (Low Power) Intel® Core™ i7-2600S Processor (8M Cache, 2.80 GHz) 7480

Interesting Review from a digital sign company (a few useful internal pics, appears tall RAM is not blocked)
Product Review: Shuttle XH61 for digital signage [digitalsignageblog.com]
Link to support page on Shuttle site.
Shuttle XH61 Support Page [shuttle.com]

DEAD

As of 7:15 AM EST - The Shuttle box ONLY is being offered (no free CPU) and no free shipping.

Beat me to it! Nice little HTPC. I run a G620 on a Mini-ITX. Add and SSD and RAM and this little thing will fly!

I don't usually rep Selma, but this is a great deal.

I have 3 Shuttle XPC/slim systems and have had great luck using these $8 optical hard drive bays for an additional SSD/HD:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/110928045966

wow this comes with a free g620... not bad!

How quiet are these Shuttles? I still hear the fan's on my HTPC's

SATA 3.0Gb/s

and? that really doesnt matter much. and yes im aware that 6Gbps is the new hot. with a single disk the difference is next to nothing in practical use.

but good call at scaring all the gamer types away who dont know any better other than larger number == better. :shake:

anybody got an idea if i should try and sell the CPU and go for an i3 or i5 ?

or anymore ideas , not to concerned just looking for suggestions , thanx !

What's your intended use? As an everyday system, it should be good enough. If you're wanting games, then this isn't for you. And I just now looked, this doesn't have any pcie or anything so you're stuck with onboard graphics.

build it as is, if you arent happy, then upgrade the proc. my bet.. you wont tell much difference between the g620 and an i3. not worth shelling out the extra cash.

this^

dont know why its so hard for people to understand the limitations and use cases for machines like this. its like all the folks who used to complain that atom netbooks were too slow for HD youtube and modern games.

this machine is plenty capable for just about anything aside from the latest and greatest games at high resolutions.

Naw just Basic pc or HTPC , was just wondering if i3 would be better but not for double .

thanx !

Added Passmark to Wiki for relative performance info.

Another thing to consider is that the best graphics you'll get is HD3000 depending on which CPU you go with.

The i3-2105, i3-2125, and i5-2405s have HD3000 GPU. The rest are HD2000 and maybe HD2500 (too lazy to search).

This isn't apples to apples, but the i3-2105 will probably give you double the framerate of the G620 in some games, if that's your thing.

http://images.anandtech.com/graph.../40754.png

IMHO the difference between the G620 & i3 isn't all that compelling. The only worthy upgrade would be the i5-2405s if you can get it around the $200 mark and even then you're reaching since it would put the system at around $500 when you add SSD & RAM. Better options out there for that price.

naw not games just bluray rips , which im sure is fine !

thanks for wiki edit ( in order of fastest )

Good deal!

Getting close to Microcenter deals!

MC was selling G620 for $40 bucks alone

Last year, MC was bundling G620 with H61 mobo for ~$90, so is the case worth another $90?

Never mind, MC still rules!!

specialized case, heatsink/fan and power supply. that mATX monstrosity in the bundle makes for a big ugly computer even in the smallest of mATX chassis. add a PicoPSU and a mess of internal wiring and yes this price starts looking more attractive

if you put in a BD drive, will G620 be able to drive the video, with 8gb ram? i'm guessing yes, but just wondering how smooth.

The i3 has better video quality for home theater use, but most people probably wouldn't notice.

I'm not seeing the deal. I can routinely buy ultra small and small form factor G620 boxes from lenovo's outlet for under $200 with windows, ram and hard drive included.

I guess if you live in a 3x5 apartment and cant handle a shoe-box sized computer and need one half that size... :lol:

It won't have to. The integrated graphics can decode a blu ray just fine, along with almost everything else. But if the cpu is called upon to do work, with two sandybridge cores it'll have no problems at all with pretty much anything you'd want to do video wise, including a good deal of post processing.

No quick sync (hardware video encode) and no clear video (video postprocessing to make video look better) in the G series, you get those in the i3/i5/i7.

Unless you're running a current gen SSD, then you'd appreciate the 6Gb/s. Might not notice it a lot except for boots and large program loads.

On the faster drives (830, 520) you could see a fairly significant speed improvement. If you're using a hard drive or an older slower SSD, then you're right, it won't matter.

Sooo tempting.. I have a G530 sitting around doing nothing, too..

Couple of good links for this.

Interesting Review from a digital sign company (a few useful internal pics)
Product Review: Shuttle XH61 for digital signage [digitalsignageblog.com]
Link to support page on Shuttle site.
Shuttle XH61 Support Page [shuttle.com]

Boy, I sure need some links for THIS statement! Would love to see your justification fore THIS post!

I just spent 30 minutes hooking up 3 different computers to my TV to stream a college football game from ESPN3. Ultimately, my desktop (specs in sig) won out as the only PC up to the task. I first tried a single-core Acer laptop w/ 8GB RAM and ATI 4200 graphics chipset that I had purchased 2 years ago. CPU hit 100% and video was horrible. Next was the Asus PC that I bought specifically for a HTPC a couple of years ago. It has a dual-core C2D chip in it. Nothing fancy or new, but 2 cores. Video was much better, but stuttered a lot when the camera zoomed out.

Lesson learned: don't skimp on the CPU when considering an HTPC.

This would make a great router but no dual lan and no expansion slot :-(

Good for a fun project ---
 

Does any one know if this will drive 2 monitors at the same time, one from SVGA and one from HDMI? (assuming it will). But I am in for one, looks like a fun project box and there is allot of good uses for it. Anyone have a link to a cheap / good slim BD drive.

Yeah it should

Sandy Bridge is HD2000/HD3000. Ivy Bridge is HD2500/HD4000. Don't think this will ever get the upgrade to Ivy anyway.

Also, if you want to Hackintosh, it's best to get an HD3000 chip (noted by model #'s in your post). Otherwise, the highest version of Hackintosh you could do would be Snow Leopard 10.6.3 (anything after won't work, you'll need HD3000 for 10.6.8 or Lion 10.7/Mountain Lion 10.8)

no, it wont.

i own a few shuttle systems simliar to this and they provide cables of specific lengths for optical and sata drive. not to mention for this configuration vs a standard board + mATX chassis you buy off the shelf, you dont have to deal with things like an ATX power supply cable bundle, or stretching/routing front USB cables (since the board and case as designed as one) to fit.

edit: after looking at some images online, it appears they did use a ATX connector on the board. odd choice for a unit that comes with a DC power supply. some of their other systems are not like this. however you can tell the cables are custom length to fit, unlike what youd be dealing with attempting to route a standard board + random mATX chassis. this build will most certainly be neater and more compact.

Good info. Thanks for the heads up. Repped.

I don't pay too much attention to integrated GPU. Yeah, the H61V will support Ivy, but not the H61.

hate to say it, but the GPU, drivers, and video configuration (think tweaking xorg.conf) is much more important than the CPU for handling video. In a properly configured setup, the GPU does all of the heavy lifting when it comes to decoding and more importantly post processing.

the topic is coming up in this thread because different sandy bridge CPUs have different integrated graphics capabilities, and there is no expansion slot for adding your own card.

No problem. Thank YOU for saving me to post about the available HD3000 chips, :lol:

Also, the graphics in the Celeron G530 and Pentium G620 are called "HD Graphics" -- slighly crippled version of the HD2000 (sometimes referred to as HD1000). Still plenty enough, but not hackintoshable :P

This is a good deal if:

• You want a very, very small case
• Don't care about expansion slots (e.g., discrete graphics)
• Know the limitations (90W, Intel HD graphics, single 2.5" bay)

This is not a good deal if:

• You want USB 3.0, eSATA, SATA 6Gb/s or any other "high performance" capability
• You are concerned about replacing proprietary components, should they fail

Item Name	Price	Shipping
Shuttle XH61 Barebone [newegg.com]	$184.99	-
Intel Pentium G620 [newegg.com]	-	-

I just hastily grabbed some components for comparison, you can definitely find some better deals/parts.

Item Name	Price	Shipping
IN WIN BP655.200BL Mini-ITX Desktop Computer Case 200W Power Supply [newegg.com]	$49.99	$9.99
Intel Pentium G620 [newegg.com]	$63.99	-
GIGABYTE GA-H61N-USB3 Mini ITX Motherboard [newegg.com]	$79.99	-

The point I'm trying to get at is that you're sacrificing a lot of functionality/upgradability all for the sake of saving around $20. ($184.99 vs $203.96)

What I've scrapped together over the past year or two manages to come out at $291.79. :bounce:

Item Name	Price	Shipping
Antec ISK 300-65 Mini-ITX Computer Case [newegg.com]	$32.99	-
Intel i5-2500K [newegg.com]	$149.99 [evga.com]	-
ASRock H67M-ITX Mini ITX Motherboard [newegg.com]	$81.97	$6.84
MSI R6570-MD1G/LP Radeon HD 6570 1GB Low Profile [newegg.com]	$19.99 (AR)	-
Delta ADP-135DB 135W Power Supply	$20	-

If only this supported 3D =/. Need a 3D htpc.

No eSATA or USB3
 

I have been waiting for a reasonably powerful HTPC for while, this one comes very close to what I need but I have to pass because there is no option for fast storage access such as eSATA or USB3. This makes it difficult to expand it storage using external disks. :mad:

I also dislike the mouse, keyboard and VGA ports from the old days.

Just chimed into say I bought 5 of these for our company last week.

They're replacing the much more expensive optiplex systems we've been using and with an SSD they FLY. I got in on the free SSD deal and purchased the same chip included here. 4GB of Kingston RAM (we're running 32-bit Windows because of some legacy software, so anything else is a waste)

These are running Win 7, Office Pro 2010, and a rather heavy AS400 emulator. They run circles around the Core i3 Optiplex 390s we bought a few months ago with non-SSDs.

WEI on the system is 4.6, but the graphics are holding it back. Everything else on the box is 5.7+.

Notes:

1) VERY quiet. Not as quiet as the fan-less Atom systems obviously, but no more than a new Xbox 360.

2) Beautifully designed. Setup is dead simple and because we're not putting optical drives in (what's the point?) there is ample space. The SATA cables are quite short and the heat sync has a cool spiral design. Applying paste and mounting the chip was very easy.

3) These are very well built little boxes. Quite dense for such a small machine.

4) Win7 install of a fast flash drive to the SSD took FIVE MINUTES. This is a new company record.

5) Obviously I can't say anything about reliability, but I have no qualms about ordering more as they are well built and incredibly cheap. And honestly, at this price I can buy three of them for a similarly spec'd Core i3 Optiplex + 3-year on-site warranty.


PS although it lacks ESATA, there is a "hot swap" SATA option in the bios. I used it to clone out the first machine to the other 4. Not elegant, but it gets the job done.

You sound doubful my friend, let me enlighten you.

The integrated video in the celeron doesn't have clear video support, but the integrated video in the i3 and up do. There may be one or two models of i series that don't...I haven't scrutinized all 87 models and every once in a while they clip something off of a cpu to prove one point or other.

http://www.intel.com/content/www/...neral.html

"Picture-perfect

Intel Clear Video HD Technology vastly improves video playback, delivering cleaner, sharper images, more natural, accurate, and vivid colors, and a clear and stable video picture. Intel Clear Video HD Technology on the new 3rd generation Intel® Core™ processor lets you view images as they were meant to be seen. Loud and clear and big as life.

How it works

Intel Clear Video HD Technology integrates a wide range of image-processing technologies, including:

Advanced video technologies that remove jitter and create crisper visuals
Total color control, along with adaptive contrast and skin-tone enhancements that create vivid, rich colors on the display
Intelligent color space mapping that helps ensure that colors are presented the way they were meant to be seen when you are watching video, browsing the Web, or using your PC applications"

Im new to this, what else do I have to buy to be able to use this? gonna be used as an htpc. Thanks

No SPDIF ? That kills it for me. I don't know why they didn't add that - many nettops have it in some form - weird they would leave it out.

Doesn't the HDMI output on this use the intergrated video of the Celeron? If not then this is not worth it.

My bad, I was posting about another similar item that required a separate video card. This wont even let you put one in, so you're stuck with the integrated video and the hdmi or vga ports.

Which means if you're using this for an htpc, you might consider an upgrade from the g series celeron to an i3.

probably about time you upgrade to an hdmi avr.... just sayin' ;)

I appreciate what you're saying - but I gotta buy a receiver for our new basement setup, and Im not buying another one for our existing family room setup - so I'm stuck with no hdmi on that one for awhile.

Tempting, as I have been wanting to put together a compact HTPC for quite some time. However, I really need something that has a pci-e expansion slot so a halfway decent GPU could be added for some gaming. But I realize it is what it is.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Pro...6856173042

Zotac ZBOXNANO-ID61-U Intel HM65 1 x 204Pin Intel HD Graphics Integrated by CPU Black Mini / Booksize Barebone System

seems to be a more decent system at basically the same price. The CPU is, although not particularly strong (Intel Celeron 867, scored at 1241), more than enough for a HTPC. With its support for usb3, eSATA, card readers, display port, STAT6.0, it looks like a more modern and useful system for me.

Would this frys RAM work in this box?

Crucial Ballistix 8GB Memory (2x4GB) 1866MHz DDR3 240-Pin UDIMM Memory

http://slickdeals.net/f/5126458-C...ept-6-2012

the onboard graphics are so terrible. you can't even watch movies at passable frame rates. do not get this expecting to use it as an htpc.

Not true..The newest intel HD graphics run videos fine. Just update the driver first and use VLC Player. http://www.videolan.org/vlc/index.html

LOL...the integrated graphics will decode every major format in hardware at full frame rates.

Even if the G620 did all the decode, you'd have no problems decoding a full 1080p blu-ray movie.

You might have been right 6 or 7 years ago though... :lol:

I agree. My htpc has a g530 and XBMC plays anything that I throw at it, even 10+GB mkv rips, no video card at all.

Not really. It's not even half as fast as the one in the OP. But it is a heck of a lot smaller.

To anyone considering this, know this character has no clue. Disregard his/her post.

I understand where you're going with that, but I wonder if the Intel marketing meets reality. I would have to see reviews from a credible source before I believed any of that. We know how different technologies (edge enhancement, picture sharpening, noise reduction, etc) that are supposed to improve picture quality according to the marketing, usually do the opposite in reality. I myself usually prefer to turn off such helpful technology and it usually results in a better picture.

When I'm trying to sell you something, I can say it's the best, but that doesn't necessarily have to be the truth! Take a look around.

I'll 2nd that, I built a budget HTPC for my friend a few months back with a intel G530 and it plays everything, I was pretty surprised at how well it works.

I do tend to look at things rather than buy into Intel's marketing machine. Probably because I used to run Intel's marketing machine about ten years ago :lol:

However, the videophiles over at avsforum wouldn't take a leak on the celeron version of the intel integrated graphics if it caught fire, and prefer the clear video versions of the i series, or an add in card.

There's also this. Not comprehensive, but its the first link presented when googling "Intel clear video review", and thats all I felt like looking at right now to prove a point.

http://www.tomshardware.com/revie...839-5.html

"Aside from saturating the image, UVD 3 still looks worse than Intel's Clear Video HD (CVT) and the fourth generation of PureVideo (VPDAU4). You can specifically see this around the blades of the helicopter to the far-right of the image. There is no aliasing around the edges, and the workers on the truck are less blurred, which means Intel's and Nvidia's motion compensation algorithms are coping with the camera panning motion more accurately."

So among hardware decoders, if you read the voluminous comments you might find the intel product beats out either the ati or nvidia products...sometimes both.

Of course, software rendering with the right combination of tools generally gives better results, and the celeron is up to the task of quite a bit of post processing.

Intel pulled clearvideo out of the cheap celerons for a reason...its valuable to people who want good image quality, done in hardware. If you want that, you have to pay more.

I'd go with this celly and a $10-20 video card like a 6450 instead of paying $100+ for an i3, but you can't put one in this box. No slot, weak power supply.

My htpc has the g620 and a 6670 in it. Plenty of power for transcoding and all the other things you might ask of an htpc besides video playback. Even runs my kids minecraft server without ever noticing any slowdowns. Box was $199 from Lenovo's outlet and I got the card for $20, stuck an $11 antec high current gamer 400w supply in it, although I could have gotten away with the stock 280w. Far better than this deal, IMO.

I agree, but I do wish newegg had offered the opportunity to "upgrade" the g620 processor to different SB for the difference in price. I need a new HTPC but would need a SB with HD3000 to play 3D iso.

One thing for people to keep in mind though, SB does have the "24p" bug. So, if you play videos that are encoded at 23.976fps it will drop frames. Some people say its noticeable, others say not so much, but it is something to keep in mind.

Looks like the free processor won't work as a hackintosh?

http://www.tonymacx86.com/buying-...-os-x.html

isn't the case/mobo combo expensive considering that it's going for $185? case/mobo/cpu seems like an okay price, but i dont know much about that cpu.

Wouldn't one of these make a great little NAS box?

How much power will it suck?

would jump if i didn't have to pay CA taxes, and if this thing were $30 cheaper. cpu/mobo for an HTPC should cost something like what, $70? case/psu should run maybe $60 in my opinion.. so it should be less than $150 for those 3 parts.

Very tempted. My current HTPC gets all the hand me down parts and while it isn't super loud compared to a regular desktop pc, it is entirely too noisy for the living room IMHO. On the other hand I tend to use the 360 for all my multimedia needs, so what purpose would this thing serve except to play dig dug on mame twice a year?

Are there slim bd-r drives that one could use with this?

So do you need anything other than a HDD to make HTPC? Assuming that this thing will be running XBMC.

this is only mobo/cpu/case/psu, so everything else you would need. such as hard drive, dvd/blu-ray drive, and ram. i have everything outside of this combo ready, but i think $185 is too much for this combo.

looking to get this for my grandmother who would only be using it for simple web browsing/email/word processing.

what else would i need to purchase? i have some extra ddr3 ram laying around. and i was hoping to use her current 3.5" hard drive.

and ram

nothing, but cheap ssd would be nice, even if she dosen't do anything other then simple internet use.

How is streaming 1080p on this off a NAS? Will it work as good as a Boxee? Currently looking to upgrade my setup into a HTPC instead of Boxee

I've watched videophiles try and try and try to spot that when it happens. Its not easy. So I think if 5 guys are sitting in a room looking for it and they have to go back and forth before they can spot it, anyone looking to spend ~$200 on an htpc won't give a %$@#.

I think if you're already forgoing clear video, the 24p bug wouldn't be your biggest concern. About half the video cards made more than a couple of years ago and pretty much all of them over 4 years ago have the same problem.

That having been said, I wouldn't like this for an htpc. I know everyone loves little boxes, but that means more heat and more fans running. Nice mid tower tucked behind one of your speakers wont make any noise and has a lot more room to work in.

My mid tower celeron g620 with an h61, 500gb hard drive, 240gb m4 ssd, 4gb of ram and a very efficient power supply dips into the 28-30 range at idle with the hard drive spun down, around 35-38 playing a video, and maybe hits 50 at full blast during boot time. I did add in a 6670 later, but the power usage didn't really go up that much. This is a ridiculously frugal machine, electricity wise. Matching capability for capability, this is maybe 10-20 watts more than one of the little atom/ion boxes. Well worth it for the extra cpu power.

You'll probably get away with the ram because the celeron will run on pretty much any ddr3 1066 and up. Using the current hard drive might be okay. But you'll also need an operating system.

I'd recommend buying a dell/lenovo refurb or scratch and dent machine for about the same price when they have a sale, which seems to be every 10-15 days or so. All newer parts, a warranty and tech support if it should break.

Could someone tell me the weight of the shuttle ? Only the shuttle with the adapter ( without box ). I need the exactly weight if is possible. Im from argentina. Thanks !

scored a HP Dc5800 with C2D E8400 (close to G620) for $100 on craigslist, for this one, guess have to shell out additional $70 for RAM/HDD making it 260.

Not that slick to me.

Would like to pull the trigger to replace a Pentium D garage PC, just can't do it though considering H420 Lenovo refurbs go for sub $200. With a H420 you wouldn't need to source ram, although I'd probably still get a SSD for poops and giggles. I just can't force myself to blow $250 for a garage PC :sad:

I bought this Gateway PC the other night for an HTPC. I feel it offers so much more than this deal for an HTPC. It has run all the files I've thrown at it in testing. http://slickdeals.net/f/5129626-D...Buy-257-99
For only $80 bucks more and you get the Windows 7 OS, the HDD, RAM, DVDWR, a 1 year warranty on all these parts, and a bunch of other good features. And you could put in a video card in the PCI slot if you wanted to have 3D.
Product Height..........................................................................​....10.4"
Product Width...........................................................................​.....3.9"
Product Depth...........................................................................​.....12.4"

vs. 9.53" x 7.87" x 2.87" for the Shuttle

lenovo h420 is probably 3 times as big as this. it's like comparing a 13" laptop to a 17"

I think people put too much importance on a box being only slight smaller.

slightly smaller? this thing is about the size of a small DVD player. the lenovo you're talking about is a full fledged desktop. oh and it also uses less power.

not bad. but with CriagsList it's always a YMMV.

also consider the HP is much "bigger" than this Shuttle.

I"m tempted to get one of these shuttles. as I got 4x120gb SSD, 8gb (2x4gb) ram, bunch of new keyboards and wireless mices. lying around (no thanks to SD and all these SSD deals)

Note that the updated version of this machine XH61v has at least two USB3 ports, and some more future-proof features, and is priced about the same as XH61, although there is no free CPU.

http://global.shuttle.com/main/pr...uctId=1628

"Full Fledged"? the Gateway is just an inch bigger in all directions than the Xbox 360. I'd not call that Full Fledged.

Lemme translate this.

This chip integrates graphics acceleration with the CPU core. It includes a dedicated function block for smoothly and efficiently decoding popular video codecs. However, in order to differentiate our product line, we've decided that these chips won't be able to do accelerated post-processing of the decoded video.

Is that important? Depends on your source video and the device you are playing it back on. In my case, I generally don't want to "enhance" the video I'm watching and de-interlacing isn't an issue for me.

So, I'm tempted to get one of these things. I was going to get a $150 Foxconn Nettop, but I thought a faster CPU could come in handy in some circumstances and was willing to pay a little more for it. On the other hand, this thing is a little bulkier, likely runs hotter, and therefore could be a noise problem. Also, USB3 would be nice.

Given the lack of room for internal storage and the lack of high-speed connections (USB3 or eSATA) to external storage, I'd say no. There are little, hackable, power-efficient NASs that can take two 3.5" SATA drives internally that are less than this.

the "updated" version is a little of an oddball.

Plus:
- dual digital output (DVI + HDMI) vs the VGA/HDMI of this one
- dual Gige NIC
- spdif out.
- ivery bridge support
- sata III
- USB3.0
- pcie-x1 slot
- two minipcie slots.

Negative:
- only two internal SATA port
- two RS232 port (serial ports). Who the hell still uses that? and there's TWO? it's been over 10 years since I used a analog external modem or a serial mouse. I would rather have two PS/2 ports instead or have eSATA port.
- SODIMM instead of regular DIMM

The manual shows "Serial ATA Connectors-SATA1,2,3", so there should be three.

They are used for things such as POS terminal, and are not uglier than the mouse and keyboard ports on XH61. Of course I would also prefer an eSATA port.

I am considering buying it from ebay http://www.ebay.com/itm/Shuttle-X...5d347b255f for $190, if I can find a good CPU deal ...

The specs say this takes 2.5" drive not 3.5. I'm in for one. Thanks Selma.

Shuttle also offers a 3-year Warranty and Free Lifetime Telephone support on these models.

English please. :D

1) This deal is for Pentium not Celeron
2) most people don't use the "clear video" settings and find them as useless as most other gpu post processing. Most htpc software and modern tv's can handle cleaning up sd content...as far as HD content, no "clear video" or other gimmicky post processing is needed.

Is the deal over, because I tried to add to cart and there is no processor.

The fact that this one is compatible with Mini-ITX (and therefore upgradable) is also a huge positive.

DEAD

I had it in my cart last night and I decided to pull the trigger this morning -- it now shows only the Shuttle box (no CPU) .

Shipping is now $12

Someone please ? i want it and i need the "exactly" weight for send to argentina

Would you say that the likely customer for a ~$200 htpc is more likely to have pristine perfect source material and a perfect display, or a lot of dvd's, random rips and semi cruddy streaming internet video?

The "pentium" in this is a G series, which are also referred to as celerons at the low end and many celerons are available for this deal. However, thats a nit. Same exact capabilities and still no clear video.

Clear video works automatically and is enabled by default. Most people don't know the settings are there, and don't change the settings.

The rest of your comment indicates that you know little about video processing and video quality. Most source material (including HD, which makes absolutely no difference) is far from perfect, most gpu's render the material imperfectly and most screens have display quirks. Postprocessing is intended to fix these very common issues and give a more attractive, more realistic picture.

But I'm guessing this probably will suit your needs, which is having something and not knowing what you're missing, and feeling smug about that. :lol:

Good, no need to hesitate any more. Waiting for the arrival of Shuttle XH61v, perhaps a bundle deal with an i3 processor.

thank god this is OOS. other wise I would have bought it.

my dell 531s 2.4ghz is still kicking strong after 4 years as a htpc

Maybe of topic but since people are interested in htpcs what Blu-ray playback program would you guys recommend? Or would ripping them in makemkv and playing them that way be the best option?

damnit SD i always have to miss the things I'm looking for!

srsly. i was adding this bundle to my cart and removing it all weekend, :lol:

i think i'd take advantage of the XH61v; with USB 3.0 i could do some serious damage :D

Has anyone successfully put Mountain Lion on this combo yet?

This deal is on again!!

It matters tons when you're using SSDs instead of hard disks. :roll:

you think so?

i wonder what real world boot times would look like with the exact same gear (SSD used for both test) with sata 2.0 vs 3.0. maybe a couple of seconds at best?

for games, playing back media, and and daily tasks, the benefit would be minimal.

note i am not talking about the speed difference between hdd and ssd, i mean the difference between an ssd utilizing sata 2.0 vs 3.0.

I was asking about this particular CPU/combo. Thanks for the help anyways.

For anyone else who wants an actual, useful answer, it is no - Graphics aren't supported, however the motherboard is.

people found some more luck with SH67H3

I scored i5-2500k for 100$ deal from microcenter last week
need to build a customac myself

good luck