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iconian 10-01-2012 01:17 AM

Sony NEX-5N 16.0MP Compact Interchangeable Lens Camera w/ 18-55mm Lens $419 + free shipping
 
http://www.adorama.com/ISONEX5NBK...ailprice=t

$419 + free s/h

brisar 10-01-2012 01:17 AM

Sony NEX-5N 16.0MP Compact Interchangeable Lens Camera with 18-55mm Lens $419 + Free Shipping
 
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asterx 10-01-2012 01:36 AM

How low can it go?

This is the lowest price ever for an amazing camera.

bolland99 10-01-2012 02:03 AM

Yes price keeps dropping on this one.....crazy.

bolland99 10-01-2012 02:09 AM

You could probably buy this and sell the camera body and lens separately on ebay and make about $50-$100 profit without much problem.

Progression 10-01-2012 02:09 AM

I'm in. Only thing going for the new cams is the NEX-6 with the EVF is nice. Sure, some better focusing/lack of hunting so much, more fps, and the gimmick crap like wifi. I use manual lenses anyways so this is a bargain and too bad they won't be to the door till the 12th, but I've been waiting this long it's worth it.

makeitslickER 10-01-2012 02:47 AM

holy craaaap...

Deals4Lyfe 10-01-2012 02:51 AM

Holy heck this is cheap... I paid $650 for mines 5 months ago

Andy_ATL 10-01-2012 03:10 AM

I bought mine from Amazon warehouse for $600ish back in February. Best camera I've ever owned.
$419 sounds like a great deal for the same (brand new) combo.

lsman 10-01-2012 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Progression (Post 53603232)
I'm in. Only thing going for the new cams is the NEX-6 with the EVF is nice. Sure, some better focusing/lack of hunting so much, more fps, and the gimmick crap like wifi. I use manual lenses anyways so this is a bargain and too bad they won't be to the door till the 12th, but I've been waiting this long it's worth it.


I still hold out for NEX6 for the new kit lens, internal flash and good interface.... but it doesn't has touchscreen (no touchscreen AF).

NotTheBees 10-01-2012 06:46 AM

Sony NEX-5N w/18-55mm Lens $419 + FS @ Adorama
 
With all the sales on these recently, I've been following the prices closely and this is the best one I've seen yet.

Excellent price, free shipping and no tax (except NJ,NY) from a great merchant.

http://www.adorama.com/ISONEX5NBK...=cj_552179

glennpok 10-01-2012 06:48 AM

And bundle it with the 55-210 for $100 less. Really really cheap.

BlitzAction 10-01-2012 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glennpok (Post 53605436)
And bundle it with the 55-210 for $100 less. Really really cheap.

When I try and add the 55-210 lens with the 5N, it bumps the camera price back up to $698. Were you successful in getting both discounted?

afreeman1180 10-01-2012 07:01 AM

One of the BEST cameras I've ever owned. If not... THE BEST.

mitsuko1211 10-01-2012 07:10 AM

holy crap... i thought the price drop to $499 was good... should i get a second one for my sis' bday gift???

glennpok 10-01-2012 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlitzAction (Post 53605578)
When I try and add the 55-210 lens with the 5N, it bumps the camera price back up to $698. Were you successful in getting both discounted?

I was actually having the same problem Need to make a call but I think Adorama is closed today?

dahkillah 10-01-2012 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deals4Lyfe (Post 53603706)
Holy heck this is cheap... I paid $650 for mines 5 months ago

me too :shake:

wenlez 10-01-2012 07:15 AM

I decided to get one. THanks!!

glennpok 10-01-2012 07:29 AM

Could be $395 after Top Cush Buck 6%?

blackblaze 10-01-2012 07:30 AM

$90 cheaper than Amazon and most other sites, free shipping and don't forget about cashback through your preferred sites/credit card. Seems like a FP deal to me :nod:

BigRedCat 10-01-2012 07:34 AM

I've heard good things about the NEX6, but this price is a lot better. Anyone know what I would be giving up?

CptObvious 10-01-2012 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedCat (Post 53606120)
I've heard good things about the NEX6, but this price is a lot better. Anyone know what I would be giving up?

Namely, the NEX-6 has 1) built-in electronic viewfinder, 2) phase-detect autofocus built-in to the sensor, which should improve AF performance (which is the Achilles heel of mirrorless cameras), and 3) a more compact kit lens. All are worthy upgrades IMO, but the NEX-6 will be more than 2x as expensive at launch. This 5N is still great considering it has one of the best APS-C sensors on the market.

EDIT: I forgot to add, for people interested in strobist photography, the NEX-6 has an ISO standard compatible hotshoe which would be useful for triggering your off-camera flashes, while the 5N lacks a hotshoe. One feature the 5N has that the 6 lacks is a touchscreen LCD. For serious photographers, the NEX-6 is definitely worth the extra $, but if you just want a travel camera that takes better pictures than a point-and-shoot, the 5N would be the better deal.

mitsuko1211 10-01-2012 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedCat (Post 53606120)
I've heard good things about the NEX6, but this price is a lot better. Anyone know what I would be giving up?

NEX6 is simply the 5R with the physical controls of the NEX7. So what you would be giving up is the upgrades with the 5R... which is faster autofocus and the screen swiveling full 180.

I personally think the price of th 5N now doesn't justify those upgrades for me, and after 2 weeks with the 5N (bought it with the first price drop) i definitely love it and worth it for me using the savings for another lense.

rich27 10-01-2012 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glennpok (Post 53605436)
And bundle it with the 55-210 for $100 less. Really really cheap.

Were you able to get this bundle to work?

Kammander 10-01-2012 07:45 AM

Isnt this a GREAT AMAZONG front page deal? Why isnt more people jumping into this?

Did I miss something? is this used/recall or something?

schneiks 10-01-2012 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlitzAction (Post 53605578)
When I try and add the 55-210 lens with the 5N, it bumps the camera price back up to $698. Were you successful in getting both discounted?

Also interested in bundling for $100 off.....I add the 55-210 and I show the discounted camera price and regular lens price. Is that it?

theresamax 10-01-2012 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by schneiks (Post 53606306)
Also interested in bundling for $100 off.....I add the 55-210 and I show the discounted camera price and regular lens price. Is that it?

I would love to do this also and unfortunately no one is available to help for another week!

Anyone who can help? What are must have lenses for this camera? Thanks

rogueone 10-01-2012 07:52 AM

Can't find the camera on the site for the $419 price. Only through the link on the first post. Shows $698 when searched on adorama.

Troublestylist 10-01-2012 07:53 AM

Anyone care to convince me to get this to supplant my A55? I know the IQ is a bit better in low light, but I'd mainly be using it in bright light, so that's no benefit for me.

Factor in the unwieldy removeable flash, slower AF, different lenses, and no eye-level EVF and I figure it's a pretty significant tradeoff for just a small size benefit. Still seems like the main benefit is using adapted lenses.

Kammander 10-01-2012 07:53 AM

Yeah, maybe it's a price error? You can only get the cheap $420 price if you click the link. Odd....

Troublestylist 10-01-2012 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kammander (Post 53606446)
Yeah, maybe it's a price error? You can only get the cheap $420 price if you click the link. Odd....

It's $459 on Amazon, so not too outta line...

blackblaze 10-01-2012 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bolland99 (Post 53603216)
You could probably buy this and sell the camera body and lens separately on ebay and make about $50-$100 profit without much problem.

doubtful on the profit there :nono:

confused2much 10-01-2012 08:02 AM

I'm hoping Amazon will price match....I have gift cards to use and this is an awesome price.

Thanks OP!

BTW: HERE [amzn.com] is the link to Amazon for anyone that wants to let them know about a lower price.

ideazinfinite 10-01-2012 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dahkillah (Post 53605722)
me too :shake:

Me three

texasKA 10-01-2012 08:12 AM

will be front page soon. in for one.

spacemonkey 10-01-2012 08:14 AM

I've been watching the price on this too, and with the 5R and 6 coming out this month, I question if this could drop even lower. I feel like the $500 price everywhere else is going to slowly drop as well

bobjoeb 10-01-2012 08:15 AM

I'll take no tax in TX on adorama tyvm. They're an awesome site an cheaper than amazon pricematch would be. In for one!

3dman 10-01-2012 08:16 AM

tax in NY..I pass..

chanhyung 10-01-2012 08:19 AM

I would have jumped on it instantly.... but tax in NJ and NY.. I wish it was just either one of the states.. since i could have it shipped to either my NJ home or NY business address..

rich27 10-01-2012 08:25 AM

This is a really awesome camera and by far the best deal!

I have been watching for a deal for this camera for months but eventually bought one on CL for $470 a few months ago. Going to to buy this one and sell my old one.

Thanks!

tliky 10-01-2012 08:27 AM

how is T3i compare to this?

rychastings 10-01-2012 08:30 AM

any good primes for this camera?

BlitzAction 10-01-2012 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glennpok (Post 53605436)
And bundle it with the 55-210 for $100 less. Really really cheap.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rich27 (Post 53606284)
Were you able to get this bundle to work?

I tried adding to cart separately, but no luck. It is a shame too, I am so ready to jump on this

incommon 10-01-2012 08:34 AM

Sold mine on craigslist few weeks ago at $450. I'm glad I did. It was a great camera but so many new nex lines are coming up and could not see this will hold its value too long. Maybe we can see sub $400 during BF or Christmas..

3dman 10-01-2012 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tliky (Post 53607220)
how is T3i compare to this?

Sony NEX-5N is a mirrorless interchangeable lens camera.

Cannon T3i is a dslr camera.

No in the same category.

spacemonkey 10-01-2012 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rychastings (Post 53607280)
any good primes for this camera?

i've played with the 50mm 1.8 in a store, for $275 (that was the price last week, now up to $300 everywhere), very nice for the price and a lot of people like it. You can find a couple sample vids on youtube of video with it. People seem to be praising the Sigma 30mm 2.8, $200. I've read the 16mm pancake is iffy. Or you can drop a grand on the Zeiss 24mm 1.8 :drool: Or there's always adapters. I'm planning on grabbing the 50mm once it drops back down below $300

superray 10-01-2012 08:39 AM

like always, NY tax kills the deal for me.

LonghornLayla 10-01-2012 08:47 AM

Paid more for the c3 but I did get that last year. Would get this but don't need it and I don't have $400 to waste on another camera. I'm itching to get the new kit lense with the newer generation though.

Are there tons of these floating around for sale now? I remember there was a shortage since they were being manufactured in Japan and they were hard to get.

GunMan 10-01-2012 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by incommon (Post 53607322)
Maybe we can see sub $400 during BF or Christmas..

This already is sub $400 after top cb.

rmessing 10-01-2012 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Troublestylist (Post 53606442)
Anyone care to convince me to get this to supplant my A55? I know the IQ is a bit better in low light, but I'd mainly be using it in bright light, so that's no benefit for me.

Factor in the unwieldy removeable flash, slower AF, different lenses, and no eye-level EVF and I figure it's a pretty significant tradeoff for just a small size benefit. Still seems like the main benefit is using adapted lenses.

I have this one, and I'd agree. Autofocus is much slower than my Nikon d5100, though still faster than most compacts I've used. The big hit comes in low light - this thing can really struggle to nail focus at wide aperture in low light, even with an AF illuminator. Using a Canon FD 50 (manual focus with adapter), I had a VERY hard time getting any shots in focus (I didn't have the EVF).

I wanted it for low light, too - a camera so I can go out without a dslr. Once you factor in the lens size, the size difference isn't that big (still half the weight of the d5100 + 35mm f1.8, though).

If you're looking for low light, and you need autofocus, I'd pass, despite the awesome sensor. If you're thinking about low light + manual focus oldschool glass, then go for it - MF on the E-mount lenses is terrible, but with old glass, you get good MF + an extra aperture dial. I'd probably go for the EVF then, though - it'll make it much easier to nail focus, particularly in low light.

So - do you want to point-and-shoot at a bar? or do you want to carefully construct your lowlight shots? if it's the latter, this could be an awesome setup, that backs-up as a large-but-crazy-high-Image-Quality compact.

Also, the touchscreen's not so great. It's not bad, and it does roughly what you'd want it to, but it doesn't work so well (preceision's not that high, you hit it and accidentally zoom to a corner of the screen, and touch-to-focus doesn't work very well, which is the biggest problem for me (what's the point of a touchscreen contrast-detect camera without being able to touch to select my autofocus zone?)).

Wow, that was long :-)

norazi 10-01-2012 08:51 AM

Would this be an upgrade from my GX1 with Leica 25mm f1.4 lens? I want the apsc sensor but not sure if there are any lenses for the next that's anywhere close to my leica

gaore 10-01-2012 08:52 AM

Good price.

rmessing 10-01-2012 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spacemonkey (Post 53607406)
i've played with the 50mm 1.8 in a store, for $275 (that was the price last week, now up to $300 everywhere), very nice for the price and a lot of people like it. You can find a couple sample vids on youtube of video with it. People seem to be praising the Sigma 30mm 2.8, $200. I've read the 16mm pancake is iffy. Or you can drop a grand on the Zeiss 24mm 1.8 :drool: Or there's always adapters. I'm planning on grabbing the 50mm once it drops back down below $300

The 50's good, but lowlight autofocus bugs me, and I'm not sure it's any better than the cheap old Canon 50 I've got as well (it's an FD mount, so I got it + the adapter under $50).

The reviews say the Sigma 30mm 2.8 is good, though variable (so if you're not sure when you get it, return and ask for another copy of the lens). The Sigma 19mm 2.8 is supposed to be okay, too, but not as good as the 30. The 16mm isn't so good - the camera was basically a large-sensor compact, with a non-zooming wideangle compact lens, at that point - I couldn't get a sharp shot in full daylight.

There are some new e-mount lenses coming out - most critically a smallish 35mm f1.8 prime. I think it's going to be pricey though - in the $300+ range.

imn204 10-01-2012 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rychastings (Post 53607280)
any good primes for this camera?

get an adapter and a whole world of lenses are available to you. with focus peaking and the optional electronic viewfinder, manual focus lenses are easy to use.

Promit 10-01-2012 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by norazi (Post 53607630)
Would this be an upgrade from my GX1 with Leica 25mm f1.4 lens? I want the apsc sensor but not sure if there are any lenses for the next that's anywhere close to my leica

There's a 35mm/1.8 on the horizon that will serve as the normal prime, though I very much doubt it's an optical match for the PL25. The 5N's better sensor may compensate for that. There's also the wider 24mm/1.8 Zeiss, if you have a cool $1100 to spend.

The Sony lens situation is frankly still poor, and it's improving but slowly. For people who want a full mirrorless system the m4/3 cameras are still the best choice, but who knows how long that will be the case. Come on Sony, give us the goods! Now that you've got a chunk of Olympus, maybe get some Zuiko designers to teach you.

imn204 10-01-2012 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by norazi (Post 53607630)
Would this be an upgrade from my GX1 with Leica 25mm f1.4 lens? I want the apsc sensor but not sure if there are any lenses for the next that's anywhere close to my leica


you are talking about the panasonic made "leica" 25mm 1.4? thats a good lens, i would compare it to the sony made "zeiss" 24mm 1.8.

you could always get an adapter and use real german/canadian made leica lenses if that's your thing.

you get better DOF with the larger sensor as well.

worthmining 10-01-2012 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lsman (Post 53605218)
I still hold out for NEX6 for the new kit lens, internal flash and good interface.... but it doesn't has touchscreen (no touchscreen AF).

NEX6 with 16-50mm lens will be $1000 when it starts selling. Technically, the picture quality of NEX6 is about the same, only new features such as slightly faster autofocus (NEX5N is not slow either), compact 16-50mm lens comparing to 18-55mm lens that comes with NEX5N, Wifi and built-in EVF, but NEX5N touchscreen and touch focus does not present in NEX6.

The money merchant loose on NEX5N will be made from NEX6 as the consumer interests seem going to NEX6 at the moment.

vtphilk 10-01-2012 09:16 AM

Reading the reviews on amazon and it seems this thing might have some audio problems with shooting video. I really want a good camera for my up coming baby, but want to shoot video with it as well. This I thought was both until I was reading about the video recording having audio clicking noises. Anyone have this that knows if this is as bad as some of the amazon reviewers state?

I plan on using it alot for both video and still's

worthmining 10-01-2012 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rmessing (Post 53607654)
The 50's good, but lowlight autofocus bugs me, and I'm not sure it's any better than the cheap old Canon 50 I've got as well (it's an FD mount, so I got it + the adapter under $50).

The reviews say the Sigma 30mm 2.8 is good, though variable (so if you're not sure when you get it, return and ask for another copy of the lens). The Sigma 19mm 2.8 is supposed to be okay, too, but not as good as the 30. The 16mm isn't so good - the camera was basically a large-sensor compact, with a non-zooming wideangle compact lens, at that point - I couldn't get a sharp shot in full daylight.

There are some new e-mount lenses coming out - most critically a smallish 35mm f1.8 prime. I think it's going to be pricey though - in the $300+ range.

You can pre-order already, $448 from most online store, comparing to Canon or Nikon's ASPC 35mm f1.8 are around $200. Sony NEX system is costly. for example, 18-200mm NEX mount at near $1000 while canon or nikone's around $600-$700.

Subliminal 10-01-2012 09:22 AM

Good price, but they're closed for a Jewish holiday until the 10th. If they were open today I would have pulled the trigger...but that's much too long to wait for a new toy.

kpham83 10-01-2012 09:25 AM

good deal, 419 - 5% discover cb and 3% cb from another site = 386, no tax in texas. Thanks and repped.

tangcoral 10-01-2012 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vtphilk (Post 53608106)
Reading the reviews on amazon and it seems this thing might have some audio problems with shooting video. I really want a good camera for my up coming baby, but want to shoot video with it as well. This I thought was both until I was reading about the video recording having audio clicking noises. Anyone have this that knows if this is as bad as some of the amazon reviewers state?

I plan on using it alot for both video and still's

Clicks happen when you pan too fast.

Sony might of addresses this issue with new updates but if not they will fix the issue.

lucassdad 10-01-2012 09:30 AM

I bought the nex-5 about 11 months ago for ~$400. This was not replacing a DSLR, it was replacing a point-and-shoot. Instead of buying the autofocus I bought some old
 
I bought the nex-5 about 11 months ago for ~$400. This was not replacing a dslr but a point-and-shoot. Instead of buying additional auto-focus lenses I bought an adapter (~30) and some used manual lenses on ebay (all less than $50 each - 50 mm 1.8, 18mm, 50-150mm). Turned on focus peaking and have liked it so far. Especially cool is putting on an old 50-150 and doing telephoto, especially of the kids in action.
BTW focus peaking changes the color on the screen of the subject(s) that are in focus. I'm not a big fan of viewfinders so it's very cool.

With all that being said, it works for what I want. Would I put a $1000 lens on it? Nope. If I wanted to do dslr functionality I'd go Nikon (because Canon upset me years ago and carrying that grudge makes me feel human)

z320 10-01-2012 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mitsuko1211 (Post 53605690)
holy crap... i thought the price drop to $499 was good... should i get a second one for my sis' bday gift???

Definitely! Get one for your bro too, he'll love it!!!

mach4 10-01-2012 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vtphilk (Post 53608106)
Reading the reviews on amazon and it seems this thing might have some audio problems with shooting video. I really want a good camera for my up coming baby, but want to shoot video with it as well. This I thought was both until I was reading about the video recording having audio clicking noises. Anyone have this that knows if this is as bad as some of the amazon reviewers state?

I plan on using it alot for both video and still's

I think the clicking only affected certain defective 5n. The one I received last week does not click even if I shake the camera while shooting video.
Btw this is a great price.

mitsuko1211 10-01-2012 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vtphilk (Post 53608106)
Reading the reviews on amazon and it seems this thing might have some audio problems with shooting video. I really want a good camera for my up coming baby, but want to shoot video with it as well. This I thought was both until I was reading about the video recording having audio clicking noises. Anyone have this that knows if this is as bad as some of the amazon reviewers state?

I plan on using it alot for both video and still's

i just got mine 2 weeks ago, and specifically for video. Mine had no clicks at all, no matter how hard i shook it, so apparently they fixed it on later ones. hopefully thats the case with all of em still left in stores.

also videos are great on this cam.

AkumaX 10-01-2012 09:49 AM

i was going to wait, but this is too good. in 4 1!

beatnik28 10-01-2012 09:51 AM

Have been looking at these for a while. Just bought one, too good to pass up!

spacemonkey 10-01-2012 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Subliminal (Post 53608214)
Good price, but they're closed for a Jewish holiday until the 10th. If they were open today I would have pulled the trigger...but that's much too long to wait for a new toy.

you can't wait 10 days?? :lmao:

the checkout page clearly states that your items will be on your doorstep on the 12th (unless you choose super saver shipping)

dltv 10-01-2012 09:52 AM

Ordered the bundle for 499 that has all the goodies. Tested this camera out in store and was really impressed. You will really like this camera because of the weight and speed. New baby pics should look close to professional quality.

tliky 10-01-2012 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucassdad (Post 53608398)
I bought the nex-5 about 11 months ago for ~$400. This was not replacing a dslr but a point-and-shoot. Instead of buying additional auto-focus lenses I bought an adapter (~30) and some used manual lenses on ebay (all less than $50 each - 50 mm 1.8, 18mm, 50-150mm). Turned on focus peaking and have liked it so far. Especially cool is putting on an old 50-150 and doing telephoto, especially of the kids in action.
BTW focus peaking changes the color on the screen of the subject(s) that are in focus. I'm not a big fan of viewfinders so it's very cool.

With all that being said, it works for what I want. Would I put a $1000 lens on it? Nope. If I wanted to do dslr functionality I'd go Nikon (because Canon upset me years ago and carrying that grudge makes me feel human)

what did canon do? :eek:

zzhouzhuan 10-01-2012 10:07 AM

Great deal!. Got one.

jmor 10-01-2012 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Subliminal (Post 53608214)
Good price, but they're closed for a Jewish holiday until the 10th. If they were open today I would have pulled the trigger...but that's much too long to wait for a new toy.

Seriously? You'll be fine.

lucassdad 10-01-2012 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tliky (Post 53609382)
what did canon do? :eek:

They made a crummy all-in-one printer years ago and then stopped supporting it. It never worked right and I was out $250. That put them on the list with Arby's, Burger King and Circuit City.

Kammander 10-01-2012 10:26 AM

I pulled the trigger but I'm getting second thought. Need SD's input.

I normally use my Samsung Nexus phone to take picture and it's fine with the things I use. Facebook etc.

Going on a cruise this month, and I decided to pick this up.... con is, Do i really need this? and this doesnt even fit in my pocket, I will definitively need a carrying bag for it. I also need to buy a extra light flash attachment.

So, what do you guys think?

monkster456 10-01-2012 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kpham83 (Post 53608306)
good deal, 419 - 5% discover cb and 3% cb from another site = 386, no tax in texas. Thanks and repped.

Care to share where the 3% cb came from?

makeitslickER 10-01-2012 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kammander (Post 53609834)
I pulled the trigger but I'm getting second thought. Need SD's input.

I normally use my Samsung Nexus phone to take picture and it's fine with the things I use. Facebook etc.

Going on a cruise this month, and I decided to pick this up.... con is, Do i really need this? and this doesnt even fit in my pocket, I will definitively need a carrying bag for it. I also need to buy a extra light flash attachment.

So, what do you guys think?

First off, I think most everyone is pretty happy with their phone's camera these days for most stuff they do online, such as yourself. However, there are some people who just desire something better that will take photos that will make them proud. I think this camera combines the pros of compact camera and DSLR and has a great review.

If you want it to be pocketable (or sort of), you can get a pancake wide lens (16mm) and it might fit in your khaki jean pockets.

As for the flash, I thought it was included in the package, unless you are talking about something better.

I would've pulled the trigger if I didn't already buy the nex-f3.

Quote:

Originally Posted by monkster456 (Post 53609922)
Care to share where the 3% cb came from?

mr.rebates!

Troublestylist 10-01-2012 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kammander (Post 53609834)
I pulled the trigger but I'm getting second thought. Need SD's input.

I normally use my Samsung Nexus phone to take picture and it's fine with the things I use. Facebook etc.

Going on a cruise this month, and I decided to pick this up.... con is, Do i really need this? and this doesnt even fit in my pocket, I will definitively need a carrying bag for it. I also need to buy a extra light flash attachment.

So, what do you guys think?

My opinion...given your comments...just get a DSLR. My A55 was the same price. Once you put a lens and flash on it, the size advantage is negated. In fact, the DSLR form factor makes it more ergonomic.

Plus you get faster AF (especially in low light), cheaper lenses, and a viewfinder when you need it.

I want to see the value in these things, but (as noted above), they really only seem to shine as "digital rangefinders"...allowing you to use legacy lenses with adapters (due to their shorter mounting distance).

But...since you already pulled the trigger...don't fret. It WILL take much better pictures than you're getting now. :)

dj-3lusion 10-01-2012 10:38 AM

nice post iconian :)

Kammander 10-01-2012 10:38 AM

If I get the 16mm (found some on ebay for less than $10) does it even zoom in?

Yeah, I'm one of those, phone camera is fine people... but with this trip and sister wedding to attend soon.... I'm debating.

Is the quality really super duper noticeable? Phone camera vs Sony Nex?

Quote:

Originally Posted by makeitslickER (Post 53609992)
First off, I think most everyone is pretty happy with their phone's camera these days for most stuff they do online, such as yourself. However, there are some people who just desire something better that will take photos that will make them proud. I think this camera combines the pros of compact camera and DSLR and has a great review.

If you want it to be pocketable (or sort of), you can get a pancake wide lens (16mm) and it might fit in your khaki jean pockets.

As for the flash, I thought it was included in the package, unless you are talking about something better.

I would've pulled the trigger if I didn't already buy the nex-f3.



mr.rebates!


chi 10-01-2012 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tliky (Post 53607220)
how is T3i compare to this?

Depends on your application, photo or video? For sports, kids, Landscapes, portraits? Does it need to be small and more portable or can you deal with a heavier camera?

For photos, T3i works. Kids, sports, whatever...

For video, the T3i focus can be super slow even with a 50mm prime lens. I've missed many moments that I couldn't capture due to the slow focus in live view mode.


From what I've seen on YouTube, the NEX focus is super fast in video mode since it's mirrorless.

sdallnct 10-01-2012 10:39 AM

Oh Lord, what a great deal. I paid $450 for my C3 kit nearly 4 months ago and thought that was a good deal.

Fantastic camera. Let me cut to the chase (as I've done in other threads of the NEX).

The NEX line (current models) has the capability of taking as good of pics as most DSLR's. it uses the same sensor! Low light photography is almost unsurpassed and is high ISO shooting.

However, the reason to get this over a DSLR is size. It is much smaller and lighter than entry DSLR's. no not pocketable, but much smaller and lighter. If size is not an issue for you, than get an entry DSLR. You gain faster focusing, a viewfinder, better grip and more accessories.

But if you like a small package, this is fantastic. Excellent image quality. Again on par with all but FF DSLRs.

I almost bought a 4/3. But I like to take pics in bars and resturants, so went with the C3. And love it!!

vagrant10 10-01-2012 10:40 AM

I have a lot of manual lenses and using focus peaking should help me nail focus. Are there certain adaptors for k-mount or m42 mount that people have had good luck with or are all the adaptors out there pretty much the same?

Thanks for your input....

flygurl 10-01-2012 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kpham83 (Post 53608306)
good deal, 419 - 5% discover cb and 3% cb from another site = 386, no tax in texas. Thanks and repped.

that's right the new quarter for Discover includes 5% on all online purchases and starts today...If we don't have to link thru shopdiscover for this 5% we should be able to link thru another cb site so both will apply.

sdallnct 10-01-2012 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kammander (Post 53609834)
I pulled the trigger but I'm getting second thought. Need SD's input.

I normally use my Samsung Nexus phone to take picture and it's fine with the things I use. Facebook etc.

Going on a cruise this month, and I decided to pick this up.... con is, Do i really need this? and this doesnt even fit in my pocket, I will definitively need a carrying bag for it. I also need to buy a extra light flash attachment.

So, what do you guys think?

Smart phones take crappy pics compared to this. But this might be overkill if you only want to post to FB. You might look at a P&S.

It comes with a small flash.

Funny, camera prices are way down due to everyone just using their phones. But with the screen improvements (I have an iPhone 5 and New iPad) it lead me to see that it would be nice to have a high quality camera. Course I also print a lot of my imagines.

matthewf01 10-01-2012 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tangcoral (Post 53608378)
Clicks happen when you pan too fast.

Sony might of addresses this issue with new updates but if not they will fix the issue.

Clicking issue was fixed, occurs in earlier units. Just bought one a month ago, no clicking.

sdallnct 10-01-2012 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kammander (Post 53610118)
If I get the 16mm (found some on ebay for less than $10) does it even zoom in?

Yeah, I'm one of those, phone camera is fine people... but with this trip and sister wedding to attend soon.... I'm debating.

Is the quality really super duper noticeable? Phone camera vs Sony Nex?

No offense but if you have to ask if it is "super duper noticeable" get a nice P&S and be done with it. The nice travel camera are now less than $300 and still a vast improvement over any phone (unless again you only purpose is to post to FB - than no there won't be a "super duper difference").

No the 16mm does not zoom. It is a fixed focal length lens. I love mine and is my main lens. I also have the wide again adapter for it.

You found a Sony 16mm emount on eBay for $10. Doesn't sound right. I looked, you had to be looking at the wrong thing. Unless you were looking at some old legacy glass (no auto focus, semi auto on exposure). Or maybe some of those that are manual focus. But I saw no Sony emount 16mm for anything less than about $150. It is a popular lens as this second the only emount pancake available,

vtphilk 10-01-2012 10:50 AM

Has anyone tried to pricematch this with amazon? do they typcially PM adorma? Wondering if they will shoot it down since it won't ship right away.

151max 10-01-2012 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kammander (Post 53610118)
If I get the 16mm (found some on ebay for less than $10) does it even zoom in?

Yeah, I'm one of those, phone camera is fine people... but with this trip and sister wedding to attend soon.... I'm debating.

Is the quality really super duper noticeable? Phone camera vs Sony Nex?

If you only view your photo on your phone or share on facebook, then it's not that noticeable.

If you want your photo for other uses, then it is super noticeable. Not sure if it is super duper noticeable though.

spurs 10-01-2012 11:07 AM

Thanks OP, ordered one, will return my amazon one bought at $499 last week. This time I will keep it no matter how low it can go:-), this is a much better camera than panasonic gf2 bought last year. Seems black one looks a little better than the silver one, just personal preference

flygurl 10-01-2012 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 151max (Post 53610484)
If you want your photo for other uses, then it is super noticeable. Not sure if it is super duper noticeable though.

:lol: repped

man, this is a good deal. I had just resolved yesterday to wait for a SD on a T3i, as I've been on the fence between the 2 for months! I like the lighter sony for travel but I feel strange holding a camera out to use the screen because the lack of a viewfinder (and don't want to pay to add one).

Kammander 10-01-2012 11:08 AM

Yeah, I'll give it a try and return it if I dont like it. =)

mnisrshdyd 10-01-2012 11:13 AM

Can I easily make the upgrade switch from point and shoots to this? What would I need to learn? Would I need to purchase accessories? My subjects are 4, 3, and 0. :) Thanks!

slickdealer09 10-01-2012 11:16 AM

Sony NEX 5N with 18-55 kit lens $419 at Adorama w/ Free Shipping
 
A steal of a deal. The kit is $500 everywhere and body only is $400.

http://www.adorama.com/ISONEX5NBK...flaid62905

sdallnct 10-01-2012 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mnisrshdyd (Post 53611046)
Can I easily make the upgrade switch from point and shoots to this? What would I need to learn? Would I need to purchase accessories? My subjects are 4, 3, and 0. :) Thanks!

It does well in the various auto modes it has. So you should feel right at home. It has various auto modes for people, scenery, etc. just like you P&S. So start there and you will get good results. Some of the bit fancier modes (such as depth of field, and high contrast) get more inconsistent results, but worth playing with and testing for yourself.

I highly recommend going to the Sony sight and downloading the booklets for it. They give photo example that are a good place to start. I d/l the ones for my C3 to my iPad/iPhone and they have come in handy.

You don't "need" to purchase anything other than a SD card. But if I were shooting kids, I'd look at the bigger more power flash available for it, a better strap and perhaps an extra battery. As for additional lenses, the 50 1.8 might be pretty nice (tho the kit zoom goes to 55 is is much slower and not as sharp).

glennpok 10-01-2012 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Subliminal (Post 53608214)
Good price, but they're closed for a Jewish holiday until the 10th. If they were open today I would have pulled the trigger...but that's much too long to wait for a new toy.

Well, that could be an advantage as the price could go down again by that time.

TKB 10-01-2012 11:25 AM

Check frontpage

slickdealer09 10-01-2012 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TKB (Post 53611342)
Check frontpage

I searched before I posted and didn't find it. Weird.

dregan 10-01-2012 11:43 AM

Ugh, no built in flash?!!? Forget it. Also I've read that the lens I really want for this camera (18-200) isn't all that great. Seems like too much of a compromise.

Kammander 10-01-2012 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daregan (Post 53611790)
Ugh, no built in flash?!!? Forget it. Also I've read that the lens I really want for this camera (18-200) isn't all that great. Seems like too much of a compromise.

Can someone confirm that this package comes with a attachable flash light?

manxtt12 10-01-2012 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kammander (Post 53612076)
Can someone confirm that this package comes with a attachable flash light?

The flash light is included.

monkster456 10-01-2012 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by manxtt12 (Post 53612346)
The flash light is included.

I was unsure, however buried on the tech specs page is this:

Flash Type
Smart accessory terminal (HVL-F7S Flash Supplied)

matthewf01 10-01-2012 12:16 PM

Honestly, I hardly ever use my flash. It does come with a little plastic clamshell case which has a loop so it can be run through your camera strap, so i always have it on hand... but the low-light performance of this camera is so good, you rarely need it. ISO can go as high as 25,600 (Though I rarely exceed 1600, I prefer just opening the shutter for longer), and with manual exposure comp, shutter, and aperture adjustments, depending on the type of shot youre taking, you may be able to get by without the flash anyway. Not to mention you shouldn't really use a flash unless absolutely necessary since it makes your pictures look mostly like garbage unless you know how to use it to your advantage. If removing the flash from the camera body meant shaving off a little bit of heft from the body, I'm totally fine with that.

sd40 10-01-2012 12:20 PM

Damn..very tempted to buy as a second body. How well does it work with the Nikon lens adapter?

fyu 10-01-2012 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daregan (Post 53611790)
Ugh, no built in flash?!!? Forget it. Also I've read that the lens I really want for this camera (18-200) isn't all that great. Seems like too much of a compromise.

so... you want an interchangable lens camera with a super zoom lens and a built in flash?

theresamax 10-01-2012 12:21 PM

Does anyone out there have the 18-200 lens. Wondering if it is worth the high price?? Also wondering how big it is. I was looking at the Tamron one. I just purchased this camera(thanks op) and am super excited!

photomoto 10-01-2012 12:21 PM

any good deals on the 16mm pancake?

damn.. too late... looks dead
We’re sorry, this item is no longer available.

Beardown34 10-01-2012 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matthewf01 (Post 53612794)
Honestly, I hardly ever use my flash. It does come with a little plastic clamshell case which has a loop so it can be run through your camera strap, so i always have it on hand... but the low-light performance of this camera is so good, you rarely need it. ISO can go as high as 25,600 (Though I rarely exceed 1600, I prefer just opening the shutter for longer), and with manual exposure comp, shutter, and aperture adjustments, depending on the type of shot youre taking, you may be able to get by without the flash anyway. Not to mention you shouldn't really use a flash unless absolutely necessary since it makes your pictures look mostly like garbage unless you know how to use it to your advantage. If removing the flash from the camera body meant shaving off a little bit of heft from the body, I'm totally fine with that.

i find using the flash is helpful to keep the shutter time fast when trying to chase around my 1 year olds. otherwise yeah, i'd prefer not to have to use flash.

skystorm 10-01-2012 12:22 PM

Looks like it just sold out: "We’re sorry, this item is no longer available."

Kammander 10-01-2012 12:22 PM

OOS!!!!!!!!!!!! Good thing I got one this morning =)

matthewf01 10-01-2012 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beardown34 (Post 53612980)
i find using the flash is helpful to keep the shutter time fast when trying to chase around my 1 year olds. otherwise yeah, i'd prefer not to have to use flash.

Totally understand.... I have an 11 month old daughter who is as wiggly as ever... since I dont like using flash, I've just about given up on trying to photograph her in less than ideal lighting :)

caveman017 10-01-2012 12:23 PM

Still think the Olympus E-PL1 for $200 is a better bargain for a compact mirrorless DSLR. The lenses on these are still full-sized lenses.

BlitzAction 10-01-2012 12:24 PM

Sold out. Glad i jumped on it earlier

glennpok 10-01-2012 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlitzAction (Post 53613054)
Sold out. Glad i jumped on it earlier

Too lazy to post another thread but Adorama now is selling body only for $369. Someone can take the credit if they want to create a new topic for this: http://www.adorama.com/ISONEX5NB....ailPrice=T

matthewf01 10-01-2012 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by photomoto (Post 53612968)
any good deals on the 16mm pancake?

damn.. to late... looks dead
We’re sorry, this item is no longer available.


For those who just joined the club.....


I've been tracking sales of the 16mm pancake lens (model SEL16F28) on ebay for the past few weeks... the lowest you should expect to get it for is no less than $135-140... but the mid-150s is the running average.

Anyone interested, here's some fireworks shots I took with my NEX-5N during a local event... just used the kit lens and a mini tripod, nothing special. Levels adjusted slightly in Lightroom but I'm no pro at all and I think these came out great...

http://flic.kr/s/aHsjC3ewXS

dregan 10-01-2012 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fyu (Post 53612942)
so... you want an interchangable lens camera with a super zoom lens and a built in flash?

Yes, is that really too much to ask for?

stbtra 10-01-2012 12:35 PM

this is now dead

Beardown34 10-01-2012 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matthewf01 (Post 53613024)
Totally understand.... I have an 11 month old daughter who is as wiggly as ever... since I dont like using flash, I've just about given up on trying to photograph her in less than ideal lighting :)

Hehe funny. I've given up on a lot of things with my kids but I've found that a 580ex ii external flash does a decent job of not ruining pics of my kids.

corkypa 10-01-2012 12:36 PM

Yes, no longer available.

chanhyung 10-01-2012 12:36 PM

damn it sold out as i was about to check it out..

spacemonkey 10-01-2012 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matthewf01 (Post 53613174)
For those who just joined the club.....


I've been tracking sales of the 16mm pancake lens (model SEL16F28) on ebay for the past few weeks... the lowest you should expect to get it for is no less than $135-140... but the mid-150s is the running average.

Anyone interested, here's some fireworks shots I took with my NEX-5N during a local event... just used the kit lens and a mini tripod, nothing special. Levels adjusted slightly in Lightroom but I'm no pro at all and I think these came out great...

http://flic.kr/s/aHsjC3ewXS

i've read that quality control on those is terrible and something like 1 in 3 are bad. which probably isn't totally accurate but there are a lot of refurbs

fyu 10-01-2012 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daregan (Post 53613186)
Yes, is that really too much to ask for?

um... yea. the laws of light says so.

it's not like people want to use huge cameras with big lenses.

matthewf01 10-01-2012 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spacemonkey (Post 53613408)
i've read that quality control on those is terrible and something like 1 in 3 are bad. which probably isn't totally accurate but there are a lot of refurbs

Yea, if you read around in the Sony NEX subforum on DPReview (so let's assume that 80% of the posting userbase is camera snobs...), they tend to be fairly critical of this lens. However, others seem to acknowledge its flaws (mainly with loss of sharpness around the edges at f-stops lower than maybe 3 or 4, i forget what the consensus was), and otherwise report that its a fine lens.

For me... I'm looking to buy one just because of the portability it offers. You lose your zoom, but you gain some more depth of field over the kit lens, and the overall package of your entire assembly becomes very tiny. I plan on getting one to sneak into a concert, passing off as a point-and-shoot (since ILCs are generally not allowed).

gonalf 10-01-2012 12:49 PM

Dead.

teaberry 10-01-2012 01:08 PM

I have a 5n upgraded from Nex-5. I have the stock 18-55, 18-200, 16mm w/ fisheye and wide converters, and my new fav Sigma 30mm. I went to Wolf Camera during closeout to see if I can find any deals and I got to handle a few Oly PEN and Nikon V1/J1. I'm surprised how much smaller the NEX-5n is especially coupled to 16mm or even the 30mm. I also got to try a friend's T3i over the weekend and I do not regret my ownership.

That said, it would be nice if the accessory port was easier to swap accessories (flash, boom mic, EVF, etc). I also wish I can put 2 accessories on top. Lastly, I am tempted by the NEX-6 due to the new Hybrid AF system.

monkster456 10-01-2012 01:21 PM

Damn. Had it sitting in my cart since this morning, indecisive. Went back to pull the trigger, and the deals dead. D'oh.

HyperGear 10-01-2012 01:33 PM

Damn I guess i'll be getting the NEX-5R instead when it comes out.

Troublestylist 10-01-2012 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matthewf01 (Post 53612794)
Honestly, I hardly ever use my flash. It does come with a little plastic clamshell case which has a loop so it can be run through your camera strap, so i always have it on hand... but the low-light performance of this camera is so good, you rarely need it. ISO can go as high as 25,600 (Though I rarely exceed 1600, I prefer just opening the shutter for longer), and with manual exposure comp, shutter, and aperture adjustments, depending on the type of shot youre taking, you may be able to get by without the flash anyway. Not to mention you shouldn't really use a flash unless absolutely necessary since it makes your pictures look mostly like garbage unless you know how to use it to your advantage. If removing the flash from the camera body meant shaving off a little bit of heft from the body, I'm totally fine with that.

True...but the irony is that I usually use my flash in daylight ("using it to my advantage", right? ;-) ) The brighter the light, the bigger the flash needs to be to kill shadows.

So your points are valid in low light, but that's only part of the equation.

matthewf01 10-01-2012 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Troublestylist (Post 53615932)
True...but the irony is that I usually use my flash in daylight ("using it to my advantage", right? ;-) ) The brighter the light, the bigger the flash needs to be to kill shadows.

So your points are valid in low light, but that's only part of the equation.

Indeed. But if you've got a daylit scene and youre trying to eliminate shadows, you're probably taking a portrait, right? So unless portrait photography is your thing and it's all you do, a non-fixed flash isn't a huge deal. I'm happy to pop on the flash for the few occassions in which I need it. Otherwise I dig the small size.

Now, if you want to use the apparently awesome electronic viewfinder, your port is filled and you cant add the flash, and THAT sucks.

Troublestylist 10-01-2012 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matthewf01 (Post 53616504)
Indeed. But if you've got a daylit scene and youre trying to eliminate shadows, you're probably taking a portrait, right? So unless portrait photography is your thing and it's all you do, a non-fixed flash isn't a huge deal. I'm happy to pop on the flash for the few occassions in which I need it. Otherwise I dig the small size.

Now, if you want to use the apparently awesome electronic viewfinder, your port is filled and you cant add the flash, and THAT sucks.

100% correct. Good deduction and good distinction.

You're right...landscape photographers couldn't care less. The only flash possibly useful for them would be not very portable. ;)

I've tried landscapes and can't get the vibe. Without a big fat head in the shot, I just can't frame properly. :D

makeitslickER 10-01-2012 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spacemonkey (Post 53613408)
i've read that quality control on those is terrible and something like 1 in 3 are bad. which probably isn't totally accurate but there are a lot of refurbs

wow, those fireworks came out beautifully.! Good job!

spacemonkey 10-01-2012 03:14 PM

so, in big obvious print during checkout, adorama states that they won't charge your card until they've shipped. I purchased this morning, and my card has been charged...but they're closed today and tomorrow. That ain't right :confused: and i won't be able alter my order or get any info until Wednesday. Interesting.

matthewf01 10-01-2012 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by makeitslickER (Post 53617524)
wow, those fireworks came out beautifully.! Good job!

Thank you :)

sdallnct 10-01-2012 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matthewf01 (Post 53616504)
Indeed. But if you've got a daylit scene and youre trying to eliminate shadows, you're probably taking a portrait, right? So unless portrait photography is your thing and it's all you do, a non-fixed flash isn't a huge deal. I'm happy to pop on the flash for the few occassions in which I need it. Otherwise I dig the small size.

Now, if you want to use the apparently awesome electronic viewfinder, your port is filled and you cant add the flash, and THAT sucks.

I've used the little flash for fill and it actually works pretty good. Do I wish such a tinny flash was just built in for fill? Sure. But not a deal breaker. It adds little to the size if the camera if you just want to leave it on all the time, or even more compact set up if you remove it.

Off camera? Ha! There is an adapter (I got mine at Amazon) that converts the Sony plug to a standard hot show. I then use a Nikon cord I have from my film days and a small Nikon flash. It actually works well.

Look, a mirrorless camera is a different market than a DSLR. Period. It is sort of like trying to make an iPad a netbook by adding a keyboard and external drive.

If you do a lot of off camera stuff, I doubt any mirrorless camera is right for you. Also, if you use or want to use a lot of physically big lenses, I'd just go DSLR. Its not that a NEX can't do it. It is that it is better on a DSLR.

chow1668 10-01-2012 06:57 PM

Bought one this morning and glad pulled the trigger this morning. Getting this camera for our new born.. Thanks

roactive 10-01-2012 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matthewf01 (Post 53613174)
For those who just joined the club.....


I've been tracking sales of the 16mm pancake lens (model SEL16F28) on ebay for the past few weeks... the lowest you should expect to get it for is no less than $135-140... but the mid-150s is the running average.

Anyone interested, here's some fireworks shots I took with my NEX-5N during a local event... just used the kit lens and a mini tripod, nothing special. Levels adjusted slightly in Lightroom but I'm no pro at all and I think these came out great...

http://flic.kr/s/aHsjC3ewXS

Your pictures made me regret not pulling the trigger this morning. That is very impressive low-light performance.

Are the pictures untouched? What mode did you shoot them in? Also, was a tripod used or were they taken hand-held?

skystorm 10-01-2012 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spacemonkey (Post 53617580)
so, in big obvious print during checkout, adorama states that they won't charge your card until they've shipped. I purchased this morning, and my card has been charged...but they're closed today and tomorrow. That ain't right :confused: and i won't be able alter my order or get any info until Wednesday. Interesting.

Are you sure it's an actual charge and not just a hold, to verify your credit card details? I've seen many people confuse those two things.

Kammander 10-01-2012 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roactive (Post 53625874)
Your pictures made me regret not pulling the trigger this morning. That is very impressive low-light performance.

Are the pictures untouched? What mode did you shoot them in? Also, was a tripod used or were they taken hand-held?

Wow! Those pictures are great. I too DO NOT regret anymore. Are those standard shots or photoshopped?

rmessing 10-02-2012 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucassdad (Post 53608398)
I bought the nex-5 about 11 months ago for ~$400. This was not replacing a dslr but a point-and-shoot. Instead of buying additional auto-focus lenses I bought an adapter (~30) and some used manual lenses on ebay (all less than $50 each - 50 mm 1.8, 18mm, 50-150mm). Turned on focus peaking and have liked it so far. Especially cool is putting on an old 50-150 and doing telephoto, especially of the kids in action.
BTW focus peaking changes the color on the screen of the subject(s) that are in focus. I'm not a big fan of viewfinders so it's very cool.

With all that being said, it works for what I want. Would I put a $1000 lens on it? Nope. If I wanted to do dslr functionality I'd go Nikon (because Canon upset me years ago and carrying that grudge makes me feel human)

Well, I'd separate DSLR and $1000 lens (because portability really does enable some different options), but I hear you on budget for a non-primary camera. If you're using it for legacy glass, you may want to consider the upgrade to the 5n - it offers a few big advantages. First - it's really really fast (# of shots / second, since autofocus isn't an issue with old glass). Second - it supports the EVF (which a lot of people say helps with manual focus. I find this easy to believe as someone who doesn't have it, but has used an EVF elsewhere - focus peaking works okay, but not perfectly (to run in realtime on camera hardware, it basically has to be running a really fast, and therefore not-too-smart gradient filter saying "are the edges sharp?", which only works with nice sharp edges)). In situations where focus peaking fails, I've found it REALLY hard to nail focus, even if I shove my eye against the LCD, because at high ISO (when focus peaking is much less useful), the noise makes it REALLY hard to judge critical sharpness on that (good-but-imperfect) screen.

Also, the 5n has a better sensor by some margin - you can push another half-stop or full stop on your old glass out of it - free extra light.

matthewf01 10-02-2012 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by roactive (Post 53625874)
Your pictures made me regret not pulling the trigger this morning. That is very impressive low-light performance.

Are the pictures untouched? What mode did you shoot them in? Also, was a tripod used or were they taken hand-held?

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Originally Posted by Kammander (Post 53626434)
Wow! Those pictures are great. I too DO NOT regret anymore. Are those standard shots or photoshopped?

Thanks guys...
I shot these in full MANUAL mode. I used a portable tripod (a little 6" guy I sat in the grass) and released the shutter with an infrared remote (go on ebay and look up Sony NEX remote...you can get a "knockoff" for less than $2 shipped, from China. Awesome to have for portraits, and for long exposure shots).

I slightly boosted my colors and adjusted exposure levels in Adobe Lightroom...I shot these in RAW format, and it's amazing the details you can recover when shooting RAW... all of the clouds and blue sky were not artificially added...it was detail present in the original picture that I was able to bring out in post-processing.

Also...I'm fairly new at this level of photography. A pro could do great things.

sdallnct 10-02-2012 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by matthewf01 (Post 53634080)
Thanks guys...
I shot these in full MANUAL mode. I used a portable tripod (a little 6" guy I sat in the grass) and released the shutter with an infrared remote (go on ebay and look up Sony NEX remote...you can get a "knockoff" for less than $2 shipped, from China. Awesome to have for portraits, and for long exposure shots).

I slightly boosted my colors and adjusted exposure levels in Adobe Lightroom...I shot these in RAW format, and it's amazing the details you can recover when shooting RAW... all of the clouds and blue sky were not artificially added...it was detail present in the original picture that I was able to bring out in post-processing.

Also...I'm fairly new at this level of photography. A pro could do great things.

Interesting. I have yet to shoot RAW with my C3. Since it is the first camera I've owned that can do RAW, I don't even know that much about it.

Nice photos!

lucassdad 10-02-2012 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by rmessing (Post 53633850)
Well, I'd separate DSLR and $1000 lens (because portability really does enable some different options), but I hear you on budget for a non-primary camera. If you're using it for legacy glass, you may want to consider the upgrade to the 5n - it offers a few big advantages. First - it's really really fast (# of shots / second, since autofocus isn't an issue with old glass). Second - it supports the EVF (which a lot of people say helps with manual focus. I find this easy to believe as someone who doesn't have it, but has used an EVF elsewhere - focus peaking works okay, but not perfectly (to run in realtime on camera hardware, it basically has to be running a really fast, and therefore not-too-smart gradient filter saying "are the edges sharp?", which only works with nice sharp edges)). In situations where focus peaking fails, I've found it REALLY hard to nail focus, even if I shove my eye against the LCD, because at high ISO (when focus peaking is much less useful), the noise makes it REALLY hard to judge critical sharpness on that (good-but-imperfect) screen.

Also, the 5n has a better sensor by some margin - you can push another half-stop or full stop on your old glass out of it - free extra light.

I'm not sure all of these things are worth $400. My nex-5 supports the evf, but I'm not too keen on that. Plus the evf is $250, so now we're up to $650... As it sits right now the camera lets me put on the included 15-55 and I can shoot the kids playing with autofocus, or I can put on the manual lenses and tinker around. I think if I were going to drop any more into digital photography I'd grab one of the nikon bundles like the d5100 with the 18-55 + 55-300.

matthewf01 10-02-2012 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by sdallnct (Post 53634672)
Interesting. I have yet to shoot RAW with my C3. Since it is the first camera I've owned that can do RAW, I don't even know that much about it.

Nice photos!

Thanks...
This is my first camera supporting RAW as well.
From one RAW newbie to another, here's a basic explanation of what I've learned recently since getting this cam, and exploring RAW...

http://digital-photography-school...aw-vs-jpeg
Good basic read...

Basically, your camera sensor (or each pixel that makes up the sensor) is able to collect light within a certain range (let's say its 0 to 255...i forget exactly how many levels RAW can hold). If its 0, its completely black and devoid of detail. If its 255 its true white, and detail is lost. But anywhere in between stores light information, and basically becomes recoverable detail. If you're not under or over exposed (and therefore have clipped off data), you can salvage detail out of your photos.
JPEG has a much more limited range, and since the JPEG compression algorithms have already been applied, detail is no longer recoverable. What you see is pretty much permanently baked into the image.
RAW is a lossless format. Each time you save a JPEG over again, you're degrading your file and basically destroying it by recompressing and recompressing. Do this enough and you get nasty artifacting.

Its more work in the end than shooting in JPEG mode since you basically need to 'develop' all your pictures, but the control and flexibility makes it quite worth it.
The NEX-5N is capable of shooting RAW + JPEG, which is kinda cool... since any 'creativity filters' you choose in the camera will not apply to the RAW but will show up in the JPEG, as well as lens corrections (barrel distortion, vignetting, color fringe, etc) and B&W conversion, etc... but if you want to take your RAWs and edit your picture, you can use the JPEG as a target for what you're going for. If you liked the results of your JPEG straight out of the camera, then just publish that.

sdallnct 10-02-2012 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by matthewf01 (Post 53635254)
Thanks...
This is my first camera supporting RAW as well.
From one RAW newbie to another, here's a basic explanation of what I've learned recently since getting this cam, and exploring RAW...

http://digital-photography-school...aw-vs-jpeg
Good basic read...

Basically, your camera sensor (or each pixel that makes up the sensor) is able to collect light within a certain range (let's say its 0 to 255...i forget exactly how many levels RAW can hold). If its 0, its completely black and devoid of detail. If its 255 its true white, and detail is lost. But anywhere in between stores light information, and basically becomes recoverable detail. If you're not under or over exposed (and therefore have clipped off data), you can salvage detail out of your photos.
JPEG has a much more limited range, and since the JPEG compression algorithms have already been applied, detail is no longer recoverable. What you see is pretty much permanently baked into the image.
RAW is a lossless format. Each time you save a JPEG over again, you're degrading your file and basically destroying it by recompressing and recompressing. Do this enough and you get nasty artifacting.

Its more work in the end than shooting in JPEG mode since you basically need to 'develop' all your pictures, but the control and flexibility makes it quite worth it.
The NEX-5N is capable of shooting RAW + JPEG, which is kinda cool... since any 'creativity filters' you choose in the camera will not apply to the RAW but will show up in the JPEG, as well as lens corrections (barrel distortion, vignetting, color fringe, etc) and B&W conversion, etc... but if you want to take your RAWs and edit your picture, you can use the JPEG as a target for what you're going for. If you liked the results of your JPEG straight out of the camera, then just publish that.

Good information. What software are you using to "develop" the RAW images? My C3 can also shoot RAW + JPG at the same time.

I didn't even look at the Sony software that came with the camera. I assume it has some software that supports RAW.

I've been trying to move away from laptops, mainly going with my iPad. However, since getting the C3 I've started re-thinking that. The 16mg images take up a lot of space and the basic photo editing apps don't give a ton of flexibility.

matthewf01 10-02-2012 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by sdallnct (Post 53636958)
Good information. What software are you using to "develop" the RAW images? My C3 can also shoot RAW + JPG at the same time.

I didn't even look at the Sony software that came with the camera. I assume it has some software that supports RAW.

I've been trying to move away from laptops, mainly going with my iPad. However, since getting the C3 I've started re-thinking that. The 16mg images take up a lot of space and the basic photo editing apps don't give a ton of flexibility.


Adobe Lightroom.

If you have Photoshop you could handle RAWs there, but Lightroom is specifically designed around editing photos, and Photoshop is more of a creation and heavy-duty manipulation tool.

Not to mention Lightroom can be gotten for considerably cheaper.

Yea, you'll want a more substantial setup for serious photo editing... bigger screen, dual monitors is very nice to have, plus a beefy processor and enough RAM. With RAW files reaching 16MB each, it's fairly system-intensive to work on them.

The Sony disk does have some kind of editing software I haven't looked at, as well as a program to handle the panoramas coming out of the camera. You'll want something better. Heck, I think even Picasa is a decent editor, if you want something absolutely dead-simple... but Lightroom is many times more powerful.

typhoon67 10-02-2012 10:38 AM

who has the screenshot for the camera with this price from adorama? i need to have it for price match. thanks.
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Originally Posted by iconian (Post 53602702)


rich27 10-02-2012 11:48 AM

Has anyone's shipped yet?

eyeslick 10-02-2012 07:08 PM

love the camera ( past year )
rarely use my d90 anymore

Fusiondynamics 10-05-2012 03:44 PM

Anyone's ship?

zmmnj 10-05-2012 07:13 PM

Not shipped yet...

spacemonkey 10-06-2012 02:30 PM

been "packed" since oct 2. My card was charged on the oct 1, now charge is gone today (the 6th). I emailed them about their "promise" to not charge until shipped. So I guess they'll re-charge when they ship...hopefully. I also have the "guarantee" to have it on my doorstep on the 12th, so we'll see if they make good on any of this. i have doubts.

fyu 10-08-2012 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by spacemonkey (Post 53747962)
been "packed" since oct 2. My card was charged on the oct 1, now charge is gone today (the 6th). I emailed them about their "promise" to not charge until shipped. So I guess they'll re-charge when they ship...hopefully. I also have the "guarantee" to have it on my doorstep on the 12th, so we'll see if they make good on any of this. i have doubts.

the first charge is an hold.

zzhouzhuan 10-09-2012 08:32 PM

Mine shipped.
Location Date Local Time Activity
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mluu510 10-10-2012 09:50 PM

got mine. the clicking noise is making video recording useless. i still don't know how sony let this problem persists. this would of been the best compact aps-c camera if it didn't have this stupid problem

enzoshadow 10-11-2012 09:12 AM

Mine is backordered... Can't believe I waited a week and a half to find out

fyu 10-11-2012 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by mluu510 (Post 53847692)
got mine. the clicking noise is making video recording useless. i still don't know how sony let this problem persists. this would of been the best compact aps-c camera if it didn't have this stupid problem

what? didn't they fix that?
try checking firmware for updates

bongchoi21 10-12-2012 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by fyu (Post 53854680)
what? didn't they fix that?
try checking firmware for updates

Mine also have same problem. They did not fix it.

Firmware is 1.01.

mluu510 10-13-2012 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by fyu (Post 53854680)
what? didn't they fix that?
try checking firmware for updates

my firmware is 1.01 also. the clicking is very bad.

i guess sony never fixed the production line of this camera and if you want the fix, you'll just have to send it in. this is very disappointing and cumbersome considering how much i anticipated this camera.

ibndfan 10-13-2012 10:40 AM

How do you recreate the clicking noise? I just shot a couple videos, but don't hear any noises...

fyu 10-13-2012 02:40 PM

wow that sucks. i guess you just have to get the right serial number or something.


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Originally Posted by ibndfan (Post 53900678)
How do you recreate the clicking noise? I just shot a couple videos, but don't hear any noises...

it happens when you pan during video. it's supposedly the IS system. so if you don't hear it then yours is a fixed version.

evo3rs 10-13-2012 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ibndfan (Post 53900678)
How do you recreate the clicking noise? I just shot a couple videos, but don't hear any noises...

Here you go http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/1...ers-captu/

The only way to fix this problem is to send it in for repair :(

rich27 10-14-2012 10:32 PM

What color is the lense? Silver or black?

ibndfan 10-17-2012 10:52 AM

Thanks for the link. Mine has a silver lens.


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