$548 Toshiba 50" HDTV LED 1080p same as 50L2200U very sharp image as pc monitor
 

LAST CHANCE.

Toshiba 50" Class LED 1080p 60Hz HDTV,(3.2" ultra-slim) 50M2U @ Walmart.

this TV is "exactly" same as Toshiba 50L2200U .
relabeled exclusively for WALMART as 50M2U.

Out of stock online.
but
if you click on (Check store availability for this product.), you will see many in stock near you.

find and buy here
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Toshiba...U/21097551

the KING and the BEST as Computer Monitor with HDMI
* it has amazingly very sharp images and smooth fonts while connecting to pc as Computer Monitor. better image then my LG and my new SAMSUNG UN32EH5300. connected at 1920X1080p with HDMI cable (laptop Acer 722,AMD Radeon HD6290) and it has a great power management and shuts down after laptop goes to sleep mode VS. the samsung that power down after 2 hours.

review see pages 1-15
http://www.televisioninfo.com/con...Review.htm

http://www.televisioninfo.com/con...Design.htm

"We were impressed with the Toshiba 50L2200U (MSRP $899). This Toshiba produces good colors, has deep blacks, and gets modestly bright. It’s also easy on the power consumption, which is a bonus since this TV’s menu interface isn’t so easy on the eyes. Aside from a few aesthetic details, the 50L2200U didn’t give us much to complain about. There is the nagging issue of an unresponsive remote, but that was our biggest complaint with this TV."

compare
http://us.toshiba.com/tv/tv-finde...U,50L5200U

see review @ amszon
http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-50L...s=50L2200U

manuals:

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Tips :if used as a computer monitor,
Make the text on your screen larger: (150% ) with windows 7
http://windows.microsoft.com/is-I...or-smaller

Good price but closest for me is 30miles!

amazing price

They have in my at local WM (2 miles)but not in need.

its in stock online...but must be shipped to the store...not available for home delivery

30 miles rural or urban??

in the item description it says "USB port - View photos and music files from a USB device on your TV"

Do you think it will be able to play videos via USB drive?

good deal if you don't need a TV with all the useless bells and whistles

Likely no. I looked at the manual and it explicitly states it will handle JPEG's and MP3's.

Also, after the vizio walmart fiasco, I am really wanting this TV, but can't justify the purchase. SD mentality (I must have it!!!)

I have no need for this, but thought it was mandatory to rep you for posting such a great deal. It also looks like quite a few stores surrounding me have this available so it doesn't seem very YMMV like most of the better B&M TV deals of the past (can anyone say sears?).

Too expensive for a gift. I'd rather spend a bit more for a Panasonic Plasma with 3D for myself. Maybe I should suggest it to the parents for their first LCD TV.

Why is a good deal?

I agree. I have a similar TV (52" Sony LED) and hardly ever use any of the internet apps or the 120Hz feature. It's one thing if you can get one with the features for the same price, but I paid almost double price (which was a discounted price). I guess it's a matter of what you do with your TV (watch a lot of Netflix or Hulu), but I've always found a HTPC connected to a TV much more functional and easier to use than any kind of internet app on a TV or streaming media box. The problem I had when searching for a TV was getting one without the bells and whistles which still had a decent picture quality. It seems like this one is an exception.

Why the qualifying "s around "exactly" the same, out of curiosity?

"very sharp image as pc monitor?"

Ummm... people complain about 27" 1920x1080 monitors. I realize it's all about viewing distance, but it's hard to make the case that a 50" 1920x1080 monitor is sharp.

Add $150 more and you get an Asus PB278Q with 2560 x 1440 resolution and 1 frame of input lag.

Well then you're talking about the difference between a 27" monitor and a 50"

I think we should just drop the thread title suggestion of this being used as a PC monitor.

I agree, a 50inch tv being used in a monitor isn't going to be nearly "sharp" enough. It's not a magic resolution/technology, it's still 1080p on a 50 inch tv.

plus BF is around the corner and there are usually some decent tv deals which may or may not be as EXTRA SHARP AS THIS TOSHIBA OMG

I agree with Techosquid. Drop the suggestion about using it as a pc monitor. It's too subjective to how close you are...blah blah blah..arguments and so on. Personally I wouldn't use it because the resolution is too low to sit 3 feet from the screen.

is there a "recommended maximum" when it comes to getting good 1080p resolution on a tv? 42 in?

edit: deleted

is this a good deal?

My god, drop it already people! The OP is making the argument that it looks good connected to a PC (as apposed to other TVs which sometimes make text or whatever look fuzzy). I haven't seen this one personally so I can't comment on how good it looks or doesn't look, but this is a TV thread deal on a TV, not a PC monitor. If you have a link to a better deal then post it up; honestly I don't mind one little bit. Otherwise stop thread crapping and move on!

looks like it was posted at this price over a month ago and nobody bit..

http://slickdeals.net/f/5188682-T...D-HDTV-548

Can't quite justify this to replace my 47" Vizio in the living room, but it's a heck of a deal. In stock at my local store, I'd bite under different circumstances.

as a tv 1080 p is great, because you're sitting so far away. But sitting so close to a 50 inch tv, there's no way it's going to be "sharp" enough without tiring your eyes.

In my opinion, 32". If you go any higher in size, the fonts are no longer smooth looking.

Comes out to a little over $600 after tax for me, I will have to think it over.

yeah, seems to be their regular price for over a month according to the comments on the product page.

And here I was ready to troll about buying it for a desktop monitor and literally put it on my desk! Oh well, was funny in my head when I thought about it. In any case, this looks like a good price for a first time LCD TV. My mom is still using those rear projection TVs and it's gotten fuzzy.

If you have a Fry's nearby, I believe this TV shows up occasionally on 1-day sales as the Major Name Brand 50" LED TV for $500.

Great price, got some in almost every store around me, BUT I DON'T NEED ONE. its not quite good enough for a main tv and just too much for a large gift. Repped anyway.

so do I, damn CA tax, debating~~~

I feel like it's gonna too big for my bedroom.

Save your money.

A $550 1980x1080 computer monitor??????? Unless you plan to place the TV in Florida and view it from San Jose.

Yea , I know...

Just add $150 and get yourself a nice 2560 x 1440 monitor that has better colors and response time (thus smoother motion) and input lag.

The 2560 x 1440 monitor I'm referring to also has a better stand as well.

This is the monitor : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Pro...6824236294

Would all over this If I wasn't already using a 70" led TV as my monitor.

Is Walmart's return policy on TV's 15 or 30 days?

I think this might be a good option for me because I want a large screen, decent picture and no "frills" (I have a Roku so I don't need a smart TV and I think 3D is a waste).

My only concern is 60 hz vs. 120hz+ - how much of a difference will that make?

Why is this the "LAST CHANCE"??

Someone who thinks this is a good deal is going to buy a lot and try to resell on Ebay , lol.

It's 90 days as long as you don't use it as a computer monitor, lol
http://help.walmart.com/app/answe...epartments

Thanks. I saw this and thought that it was 15 days because this is considered a "high value item." Then again, my experience with Walmart is that they will pretty much take anything back. I think I might buy this and use it to hold me over until a better Black Friday deal comes along.

Great TV for my parents (yeah, they're still using a 32" SD tube lol)...but I think I'll hold off for better deals in the next month.

:lmao: repped for that!

Hmmm, there is one of these locally to me, but I was waiting for BF to see if I could get a 3D TV for this price range. This would be for our second living room (or whatever you want to call it) that would mainly be dedicated for the kids and guests when they use the pull out couch.

Good price thank you op

Sure there are plasmas and LCDs out there for around the same price, but try to find a 50" full backlit LED 1080p TV from a reputable maker for the same or less. Bet you can't do it. Especially at the same level as the Tosh brand.

I jumped on this when I saw it last week. Two of my local stores received 6 each and were sold out in less than a week. I bought two including a display model for $480. There was a post about this deal awhile back, but there were no replies which I thought was strange.

I'm very happy with these Tvs. Picture lighting is vibrant and bright, but not overly so. Definitely punchier than a plasma but not too bright like the Vizio LEDs. It's a perfect middle road imo. There's no motion artifacts and no game lag. PQ is outstanding with 1080p source, just beautiful. 720p cable stations look remarkably good, except for those moments when standard def content is being displayed (some commercials, news clips, etc.). SD content is grainy and seems to look worse than other TVs imo. There are also complaints about a weak IR remote but not a deal breaker.

Can I use this as a computer monitor?
















I keed.

But does it play Crysis???

60 Hz smh

Serious question: Are people still buying 60Hz tv's? I've been shopping lately, but if it wasn't at least 120Hz, I didn't pay it any attention. Thoughts?

this has been the regular price for weeks. However this is a great indication for awesome BF deals. $500 60"? or 50" with 3D? FS with no tax from AZ? can't wait!

not everyone can tell the difference, and 120hz cuases headache in some people. also some people dislikes how "real life" the picture looks with motion compensation on these 120hz tvs.

I hate 120 or 240hz - first thing I do is find the option (if there is one) to turn it off.

Where are you seeing such great deals? I'm in the market as well and not sure if i should jump on this deal or wait for BF.

The 'smooth motion' makes everything look like a soap opera to me and makes me queesy. It just feels unnatural.

I hear it's good for sports though - I just don't watch sports.

i have not seen these deals yet, i'm just saying how the low price of this TV OP posted is an indication that we might see good deals on BF. *fingers crossed*

Why are you comparing an expensive 27" monitor ? There's little point to that desktop monitor vs a much less expensive 24" desktop monitor for most people.

But, a 50" screen is great for pc gaming from the couch. Or web browsing from the couch. The OP didn't say put in on your desk..

I agree. First time I saw it on my buddy's TV I thought something was wrong with his TV. I did not like it at all and it took away from the viewing of the movie just because I was focused on it the whole time.

Is this really a good deal? The OP seems like a salesperson and using way too many positive words and underlining and changing fonts like its an advertisement on a billboard.

Why is this a LAST CHANCE deal anyway? This exact same deal was posted a month ago for the same price and received no responses: http://slickdeals.net/f/5188682-T...D-HDTV-548

Anyone have any idea what the box dimensions are? Although walmart.com claims I can pick it up today at my local store, the store says they don't have any. I don't mind ordering online, but need to make sure it fits in my suv.

the 120 Hz TVs are the market are not true 120 Hz...

Debating whether to snag this at a local Walmart or to wait until black friday for a better deal on a 47"-50". Would be used as entry level home theater, with a 5.1 receiver, and maybe a boxee.

Don't need a TV until December, so I can wait. Any suggestions?

Most of the time I can't stand a TV in 120hz mode, but if I was buying a new TV today, I'd probably make sure it had it. I hate the soap opera effect that it gives movies and shows, but for sports it's a must. My perfect TV would have a button on the remote for it, so I don't have to flip through a menu to enable it.

rofl, he could very well be advertising for walmart, but this post is working way better than the last.

I picked one up - going to try it out and see if any deals pop up between now and BF. I needed a TV for the interim period. Thanks - repped.

Can you use SMTT 2 or an oscilloscope and test the input lag?

I had same dilemma. Decided to purchase this one and let it sit in the box until black friday deals come out. If there's a significantly better bf deal, I'll just return it with Walmart's 90 day return policy.

You need to try a real 120 Hz display device like the Asus VG278H.

Let your PC run a game at 120 FPS and let the Asus VG278H display it and tell me how smooth it is.

Yeah, thanks. I'm not interested in $700 monitors, or PC gaming. I'm sure it's brainmeltingly good.

Has anyone confirmed what the return policy is for TV? It is not 100% clear from what I have read so far.

i added 2MB pic of my desk and the tv . return to the first page to see it . enlarge pic to see fronts.

Dont have the exact dimensions, but when we bought this from the local fry's couple of months ago we did have some trouble putting it in our CR-V. In fact what I can tell you for sure is that the length wouldnt fit so we had to push or seats down to try again. It left indentation on the roof of the car.
You may have better luck carrying it back if you dont have a baby car seat and can take all the three seats down, and lay down the TV

Yeah.. I don't see the desk!

it did fit in the back seat of my car without nu-boxing it. /2005 Toyota camry.

Tv must weigh a ton to remove from car without damaging car or tv. I have a 2001 camry.
I would also need to bring it upstairs a few flights with some help from my gf.

It can but it's not a good TV for fast paced FPS games.

You sound like a marketing person.

Without laying it down? You really don't want to lay these TVs flat during transportation.

Thanks about the CRV info, my car is the same size. That said, my order just got cancelled, even while walmart.com keeps showing that they can be ready for pick up today in all local stores.

I'm not sure what to do. What are your thoughts?...

I just bought a clearance LG 47" LM5800 from best buy. It is an edge-lit LED without dimming. It does have 3D but none of the other frills. Its listed as a "TruMotion 120" but only has a 60hz rate. I'm not sure I'd ever use the 3D. It was $688 + tax.

My local walmart has this in stock and available at the $548 price. It seems to me like I'll be getting 3 more inches for ~$150 less. Other than the 3D and the marketing ploy of "TruMotion", am I missing anything?

A major drawback to the LG is that it is really quirky to turn on and off. If I use my sony receiver or my DTV remote to control the TV, it gives me a white screen that says to use the TV's original remote. Very frustrating and almost worth returning just on this.

Thoughts? Thanks in advance!

You'll get 3 more inches for about ~$90 less, since you will be paying taxes at Walmart. If you dont think the 3D option is worth having then the Toshiba sounds like a better fit for you.

Honestly I don't think this is a hot deal at all. Its been this price for well over a month now and they are in stock in so many walmart stores in my state. Blackfriday will give you way better deals if you can wait.

The only reason why this thread has received more attention is because the OP is way too excited and putting words in bold and underlining it and describing how he is getting such a big orgasm for buying a 50" TV at this price.

54"x31"x6.5"

Do you have one? If not, don't speculate. I see no artifacts/smearing when playing FPS and no input lag.

From televisioninfo.com:

"For a budget-friendly TV with a 60 Hz refresh rate, the Toshiba 50L2200U did very well in our motion performance tests. Image blurriness, which we test by having a picture moving quickly across the screen, was not bad at all. Our line test, which involves vertical lines moving horizontally across the screen, produced minimal jagged lines – something that much more expensive TVs can’t always do. Finally, there was very little color trailing that we noticed."

Its lcd so im pretty sure you can lay those down. Plasmas have glass fronts that can crack so they cant i dont think.

You might want to watermark your pics so Toshiba doesn't try steal them for marketing use.

The LG was $688 + ~$60 tax for a grand total of $748, thus this deal is 3" more TV for ~$150 less, but the LG had 3D and "TruMotion". I'm not sure I'll use 3D and TruMotion 120 is really just 60hz.

I think I'll give this a try

I have no idea what this means - but if you give me instructions I can try and do this for you. I'm picking it up from the store tonight and will be setting it up this evening.

ha ha - repped
No doubt a lot of grooming is done at this desk :lmao:

But you can still damage them. Plenty of stories online about people who have color issues etc because they transported them flat. Just not worth the risk, but I understand many people have gotten it home that way without any trouble.

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/artic...htm#smtt_2
http://smtt.thomasthiemann.com/index_en.html

In the simplest case you'd need the computer program SMTT 2.0 and a CRT monitor and connect the CRT monitor and HDTV to your computer and take pictures using a digital camera comparing what's shown on the CRT and monitor.

Run PixPerAn on your computer and display it on the TV.

If I could get it delivered for this price I would grab one but I'm pretty sure it won't fit in my car.

Have you received a "ready for pick up" email from Walmart yet? anyone order online for the store pick up and have gotten their tv alreadY?
I placed my order for one this morning but I still haven't receive any email and it has been over 4 hours.

I got my "ready for pickup" email. Will pickup later today.

My guess is that the speed of the "ready for pickup" email directly correlates to the work ethic of your local walmart.

The picture has got to be terrible on a 50" screen with only 60hz. Ill spend the extra $100 for a better smaller tv.

Most 120 Hz HDTVs are 60 Hz anyway. The 120 Hz comes from software interpolation that can be done by the CPU / GPU on your computer.

I'd spend an extra $150 on this thing

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/revie...pb278q.htm

1080P is kind of low

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_...D_monitors

HDTVs should have resolutions greater than monitors...

Thanks!! Actually I just received my pick up email 5 min ago. guess i'll be goiing there tonight...

can anybody confirm it is a 90 days return policy for this?

Yes, I submitted my order online and received an email and text message that it was ready within about 1hr. Good luck.

Why? There is no content above 1080p that is intended for TV. If you are buying a TV to use as a monitor that is one thing, but having above 1080p is a waste.

If the resolution was higher you would either only be displaying your content on a portion of the screen, or it would have to interpolate to get to the higher resolution which is a waste.

Sorry, I don't have a CRT monitor anymore...

Some cameras shoot above 1080P.

Also most modern games can be rendered at resolutions higher than 1080P.

You might also consider this 50 in lcd insignia from best buy for 499, gets great reviews for 499, free delivery. Go to www.bestbuy.com and search on sku 4882763.

I went with the 50 in toshiba here and am picking it up tonight. Other than having only two hdmi inputs and a somewhat picky remote, i thought adding led for extra 50 bucks was worth it. Will post again after I get it hooked up.

I wanted something with no bells and whistles, no 3d, no internet, etc, and they are actually getting harder to find posted deals for. I would def return the LG if it was giving me grief powering it off with a different remote. Never heard that before, goofy.

Console games aren't rendered above 1080p. Most aren't even rendered at 1080p. So, like I said, if it is not intended to be used as a monitor, above 1080p is mostly useless. I don't know which camera's shoot video above 1080p, but I bet that they are pretty darn expensive and aren't that common yet.

Picked one up for my parents who didn't need anything fancy, but want 50" and their Vizio was giving them issues. Thanks

Got my 50" hooked up... My thoughts: unboxing was pretty easy, base has to be screwed on with screwdriver, the two hdmi inputs and one usb are on side (wish there were two on back, one on side), the power-on and other buttons are also on side, the only audio out is optical toslink (no digital or analog), ordered a 50' toslink from monoprice for 15 delivered (has to drop down, run under house, and back up to the audio equipment), the remote is not that picky, power-on time seems long.

The picture is very good. Its in a very bright room and was still sunny when I got it fired up. Needed the usual color tweaking, but after all was said and done, it was a great buy. I may not feel that way if I paid the 700-800 that the Toshiba 50L2200U costs online, but for 550, great buy.

If anyone has any specific questions about the set, please feel free to quote this post and ask away!

I just hooked mine up and agree that boot up time seems long, remote doesn't seem to lag and cable placement is a little odd. My hdmi cable is in the mail so I am running VGA right now so I can't give full comment on the picture until tomorrow. Seems like a good deal for $550 to me.

yeah, start up time seems long... i kept thinking the buggy remote i read about was *really* picky until i noticed the little tiny green light at left bottom of set... you can tell when that light comes on that the set got the signal to turn on... then you just wait.....

Has anyone asked and/or found out what the return policy is? I may pick this up and keep it through black friday to see if anything better pops up.

I asked when I picked mine up. They said it was 15 days....

so do you in this thread :lol:

Ah, that sucks. Hmmm, I might hold off then. I have a feeling that BF will have deals at least this good.

I asked two Walmart reps (one at the entertainment and one at customer service) and they both said all tv in all sizes has a 90 days return policy

Ha, awesome. Different answers. I wish it was clearly defined somewhere. If it is 90 days, I would most likely pick one of these up.

i see no exception listed here [walmart.com]to the 90 day return policy for tv's.

It would be fine for PC gaming, the games will look awesome, but for web browsing...not so much.

I use a 32" 1080p HDTV as my primary PC monitor, and I actually wrote an amazon review for others to help them set it up as a PC monitor. Seeing a few jaggies has never bothered me, but I would never imply that it's anything more than the bare minimum resolution.

I guess I also technically use a 40" HDTV as a PC monitor, but that's exclusively for video on my Windows 7 Media Center. Still, at a 10 foot distance when I'm doing maintenance on it, I have to whip out magnify.exe to read the text.

There are actually some reasons not to use a HDTV as a PC monitor. Sometimes they use video filters that cannot be disabled or scaling that cannot be perfectly adapted, even with your video card's control panel.

I think it's great that the OP uses this as his monitor, but it's like a magnet for detractors when you suggest this uncommon use case in the thread title, especially when it's pretty much the opposite of "very sharp."

in for 1
not sure how long return policy is, but if you order now for site to store you are locked in and have 14 days to decide if you want to pick it up or not

Picked this up last night and set it up. It has a very nice picture, as I popped on American Horror Story HD and played a quick game of NHL13 on Xbox, and my wife is extremely happy. It's our Xmas present to ourselves. Everyone says wait for BF, but I don't want to battle lines of people/sit online waiting for deals in hopes one comes. My previous 42" LCD, 19 inch LCD monitor and Laptop, all Toshiba, and they're all great! Also watched Game 1 of the World Series, didn't notice 60mhz difference, it still looked great to me. May pick up a $40 refurb'd Sony Blu-Ray for adding "Smart" features like YouTube or Hulu eventually,but no rush as my Xbox360 does a decent job.

Err what consoles render above 1080? they cant even handle 1080 at decent frame rate.

1920x1080 isnt low for a monitor actually; its only low DPI on a 50"

Picked mine up last night as well. My Walmart actually had this exact unit on display in the store at the $548 price. Here are my thoughts on the TV:

SETUP: Overall, unboxing was easy. Attaching the base took a little bit of skilled coordination with a screwdriver at odd angles, but overall not a true negative. The HDMI ports on the side are quirky because they lay towards the outside of the TV. If you look closely from the front, you can see just a little bit of the cord curved downwards on the left hand side. Also, the other connectors are downward facing and a bit covered. Now that it is setup, I would have to really work to connect something else, or lay the TV flat. I wish they had exposed these connections along the spine of the TV. ALSO... The box measured a width of just under 55" and it fit snugly in the back of my Saab 9-3.

PICTURE: Overall, this is a bright and clean looking picture. I see a little bit of ghosting if I pay close attention. If you pause the screen, the picture goes to crap, but I don't pause that often for a close inspection. For what I paid, the picture quality exceeds my expectations.

QUIRKS: 1) The tv remote is "clunky" and bareboned, but has little lag time. 2) The TV has an "auto-off" feature, for when there is no signal. Despite activating this feature, it didn't seem to work. I called their support line, and they told me this is set as a 15 minute auto-off, which seems really stupid. I guess I'll have to set my multi-source remote to power this on/off each time with my receiver and DTV box. 3) The stand is very wobbly. Compared to my LG and my old Westinghouse TV, I am actually a bit nervous that my cat could knock this thing over. 4) The control buttons hardwired to the TV are hidden slightly behind the TV on the left side. It took me two or three minutes to find them, and they were not listed in the manual (the manual sucks by the way). Just don't loose the remote.

SUMMARY: All in all, I got exactly what I paid for. My DirecTV channels and other HD content look great! My Roku (not HD but full signal) looks decent. My SD content looks acceptable. As others have stated, if this was a full price $800 unit, I would likely spend the extra $100-$200 bucks and gets something nicer. That said, I am pleased at this price. Lately I think of TVs like computers... Buy cheap and replace often. Its hard to keep up with technology and something always seems to break, regardless of the price tag. If I get 3-4 years out of this TV then I certainly got my $600 (with tax) value out of this.

A quick defense of the OP... The box actually says that it has "High Definition PC Input", although I personally agree that 50" monitor is ridiculous. Probably just another marketing ploy.

Rather than buy a refurb Blu-Ray just for the smart features, you should give the Roku some serious consideration. For ~$10 more you get a streamlined device with a tiny footprint and access to all of the digital content providers. If I could get HBO/Showtime/Cinemax on this thing (HBO Go is available, but you must have subscription somewhere else), then I would be willing to cancel my cable.

My PCs with a Windforce GTX 670 and an AMD HD Radeon 6870 can handle some games at 2560 x 1440 or higher (as the case with the Windforce GTX 670).

lol
fail
as already mentioned, NO TV/BLURAY/GAMING CONTENT is over 1080p
so why "should" an HDTV be greater?

now if you had said "large format graphics production monitor" instead of HDTV I would agree, but you didnt, so you fail

Awesome.. but thats not a console.

Where did I mention anything about outdated consoles?

http://video-conferencing-rooms.b...60fps.html

There are cameras that shoot over 1080P. I guess low end HDTVs are just not for me.

You didnt, I went back and looked, fair enough.

optical toslink IS digital, its just not RCA style SPDIF digital connection

It doesnt matter, its 1920x1080 its fine, dots per inch may be a little low, but so what, move along...

and when you edit and produce it to disc media it will be 1080p max unless you plan to play video from your camera and PC just for yourself only.
be realistic, not fringe

I'd be OK just using a PC to play back stuff like that.

Distribution can be done with multiple Blu-ray discs (due to the size) but only PCs would be able to use the video files.

I have 15/20 vision and I use a 55in at 4ft for computer usage in bedroom, and lay back on bed when I want to use for TV/movies

55" @ 4 feet? Are you sure you are measuring the distance correctly?

yes- I mentioned PC
for yourself
because its not like you are going to email friends a 1400+res video- lol
eventually the world may go higher res as standard ... but not this decade
yes- you can distribute in data format to play from PC only, but not in a playable non-pc video format
look- I get what you are saying, but "HDTVs" are rarely used at a distance for gaming or video playback for anything higher than 1080p to be justifiable and/or noticable

Im sitting in front of it now.
why do i need to "measure"? lol
Im not saying this works for others
im just saying its not unheard of
and like I said- thats when im doing PC usage/work/web/etc

when i want to watch video I get about 10ft away on bed

I got a Roku 2 XS and ditched DirecTV, I have no use for those premium channels since all they really do besides a few original series is play reruns of movies from the 80's and 90's.. I have a 360 slim, but I was under the impression you had to have xbox live to use netflix, hulu etc ?

You are correct

Thanks, ya I just don't see paying $50 annually to watch those things... :D

Limited in stock. 20 miles away. Should I call?

Why not just place the order for in store pickup? If they don't actually have it, then you won't get a ready for pickup email. There is no reason to call (other than maybe you aren't really ready to pull the trigger).

I actually got this one last week from Fry's. even better, it's 5200U, which is 120Hz plus 3 HDMI input

Maybe i'm clueless
 

I use a 55" Toshiba in my bedroom as a monitor and the picture is very sharp. But i'm also sitting 12 feet away and have a wireless keyboard and mouse. I don't understand how some people think you're still supposed to sit in a chair 36 inches from the screen with a larger monitor. My tv is 1080p. I guess i'm not clever enough to sit closer and find the blurring you guys are complaining about.

Guys what should I do?

This tv/price/size looks good to me, but with black friday so close, should I wait? I'm not going to wait in lines, just order online. Are there better deals to wait for?

Thanks!

You should get this TV for now. If you find something cheaper during Black Friday, you can always return this TV. The return policy for Walmart is 90 days.

OP should clean up his room a little before allowing so many SD guests for a peep in :P

How is this as a TV?

It uses a VA type panel so fast motion will be more blurry than a Plasma HDTV or an LCD HDTV with an IPS panel.

Thanks for the response: Two questions :)

1.) Someone mentioned they were keeping theirs in the box, can I not return it if I use it? Pretty sure I know the answer, but just making sure...

2.) Is it considered a good idea or a bad idea to get the walmart warrenty?

3.) Also what? It's more blurry than the rest as a TV? If I will mostly use it as a TV, is it a bad buy?
Thanks!

Oh sorry! One more question:

Could someone help me out via wall mounts? I heard some mounts dont let you tilt it far enough down with this model.

Any of these look good?

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb...wall+mount

Thanks!

Is this being the "king" or "best" of pc monitors an opinion?... Any reviews state this?

Picked this up at my local Wally for $592 including tax. Lugged it up the stairs, unboxed it, screwed on the base, and powered it up -- to find dead pixels. Stopped counting at seven. Fortunately Walmart does indeed offer a 90-day return policy on its TVs, open box and all. They expect consumers to go home and discover this sort of thing, I guess. I'm going to hold on to the set through BF.

You can frequently massage out dead or stuck pixels. They could still come back, but I'd say it's worth trying to fix and just use the TV until BF at least to see if they come back or not.

OP is single as you can see in his screenshots. LOL

Good suggestion. I know it can be done but I've never had to do, so it completely slipped my mind. I'll let y'all know what comes of it.

I'm looking for a pretty good 50 inch tv used primarily for long halo sessions. Is this a smart buy or will this beat me with input lag?

Can someone please comment on the sound quality of this TV? Bearable or do you absolutely need a sound bar?

how can you massage out dead pixels? care to explain??

TIA! :woot:

Anyone have calibration settings they'd like to share? I've got a "Disney Wow! [amazon.com]" disc on the way, but some interim fine-tuning would be appreciated.

I think it depends on how much you'll miss a good bass response otherwise. The sound is a bit tinny but by no means terrible. I'm not using a sound bar; nevertheless I'm enjoying decent sound without rattle or hum. A far cry from the legendarily bad sound on some Sceptre units.

check out the amazon review page and look at the top comment

Can anyone comment on input/gaming lag? I play a good amount of games and lag is very important.

I have a pretty outdated king of CRT's sony xbr960 for gaming/tv and a 130" screen/projector for night time movies. But would like, not need, a bigger tv for daytime use.

Try this for now
Mode: Preference

-- Picture settings menu:
Contrast: 88
Backlight: 47
Dynalight: Off
Brightness: 58
Color: 41
Tint: 0
Sharpness: 0

Advanced Picture Settings submenu
Dynamic Contrast: Off
Static Gamma: -2
Cinema Mode: Film
ClearFrame: Off
Film Stabilization: Standard

Color Temperature submenu
Color Temp: Warm
B Drive: -6
G Drive: 2

No one on this board has the proper tools to correctly measure input lag.

I didnt mean specific stats. There has to be others on this board that are passionate about lag and could tell by simply playing for a few minutes if there is lag or not.

agree ^ would appreciate!

I need a tv mainly for sports in one of my spare rooms. I currently have a 120hz. Is the 60hz going to be bad for watching sports like hockey and football? I don't want it to seem like the ball or puck is going in slow motion or like I can't see it because it isn't throwing the image out quick enough. Am I going to notice it, especially since my main tv is 120hz so I have something to compare it to and something that I am already used to? Thanks in advance for your help.

I've had mine for about a week now. Sports are really pretty good, especially considering the price. The ball/puck is by no means slows motion. It handles that task pretty well.

The problem is more with quick-action scenes, such as fight scenes. If two people are really brawling on the screen (think "The Walking Dead", or similar), then it has a bit of what I call the "strobe light effect", where you can visually see the body positions in 2-3 places on the screen at one time, albeit for a split second.

Since a ball or puck or running player is a relatively smaller item on the screen, it really isn't noticeable. That said though... don't expect it to perform like a plasma.

anyone else think it looks kinda thick for an LED?

It is. I went to my local Wal-Mart to pick one up (floor model was left) and as I was inspecting the TV, I noticed it was thick. I compared it to the size of my other LCD'S and an LED I have at home. Still wouldn't stop me from buying one if I can find a NIB.

They were totally out at my local walmart, but they allowed me to purchase the floor model for 30% off no box no base! Totally perfect because I had a cheap SD wall mount all ready for it, will post impressions later today. Total came out to about 430 with two year walmart warranty!

Happy Halloween!

Alright, so if anyone's interested, I've been streaming hd horror movies via hdmi from my laptop and it's much better and simpler than I thought it would be. I'm using calibration from televisioninfo.com and the picture really is quite good. I played a couple games of halo 3 (in prep for halo 4 of course) and I had no input lag that I could notice, even without game mode on, and converting the image to full screen 1080p through the xbox dashboard. The remote has given me absolutely no issues, however I am only about 5 feet from the screen so I'm sure that is a factor. My only complaint with the tv is that it takes forever to turn on. Timing it just now, it took just under 11 seconds to boot up, which is annoying. The screen is black during that period too, so the only way to know if you've turned it on is to watch the tiny green light in the bottom. My parents have a 55 inch samsung they bought a couple years ago, and it takes forever to switch inputs. No issues with this tv, inputs change quickly and instantly. Glad I made the jump from that old standard tube.

Ordered one. I'm in the process of moving into a new condo. Strapped for cash, so this is perfect for me. I would wait until BF, but my condo has a dumb rule where you have to schedule a move in time to move big items like this, and when you do schedule a time, there is a $100 fee. I'm already moving a bunch of stuff in on the 10th, so will pick up this TV and move it in as well.

What "exactly" does exactly mean?
 

Anyone care to confirm/disagree with this assesment? I'm a bit of a TV buying novice, but how is it different from the one linked to Amazon reviews?

Thanks for the help!

Yep, exactly is exactly. No different from the one linked in amazon reviews.

I bought one nine days ago at a local Walmart. This is my first HD flat screen, so I can only compare to a 32" CRT. I really like the picture. The blacks are very black, colors seem very good, no motion artifacts that I've noticed. Sharpness and clarity varies depending what I am watching. I use BrightHouse, and nearly every channel I watch has an HD version. But even on an HD channel,some shows still look blurry (e.g., Star Trek Next Generation). I was also surprised that the Cisco HD DVR I got from BrightHouse only does a maximum of 1080i instead of 1080p. BrightHouse told me that no content provider broadcasts higher than 1080i, and none broadcast at 1080p, and that is why the various DVRs they provide only go to 1080i. I don't know whether this is true or not.

I have not seen the need to mess around with fine tuning or calibration, so I'm still using the settings right out of the box.

After turning the power on, it takes about four seconds for the word TOSHIBA to show up on the screen for a couple of seconds, then a couple info windows display HDMI PCM 1080i 16:9. So, it takes maybe 10 seconds from power on to actual broadcast picture display.

Compared to the TV I used to watch, it's like going from binoculars to the Hubble. I'm really happy with it.

Pretty sure that at least in this case, ST:TNG is still broadcast using the old standard def source (not the recently remastered version on Bluray). So even though it's a high def channel, if they're broadcasting standard def material there's not going to be any improvement.

Thanks fbitar! This is my first flat screen TV and I like it so far - replaced very old Zenith TV. The next step is improving antenna reception.

-whaddadeal

anyone who is using this as a computer monitor knows if it does 4:4:4 chroma?

I purchased this TV and I am thinking about returning it back to Walmart (b/c i got myself a 60"). Please PM me if you want to take it off my hands instead of me returning back to Walmart. I am located in Central NJ.

Please be nice, i am new to SD and not sure if this is SD etiquette but thought I would help someone out if they weren't able to get one.

Sooo how is this a deal again? Rather get an IPS hdtv.

Nice, alot of convincing to do as my wife thinks my 32" monitor is too big !!

Man no offense ,but who ever took those pictures as reference in the first post is SLOB lol

Can someone confirm the return window for this tv from walmart? ITT they talk about 30-90 days. Has anyone returned it? I'd like to know if its possible since I might get a tv for BF. I got this tv around the time this thread was active.