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SP33DFR34K 11-15-2012 11:52 AM

Dell XPS 8500 Desktop: Core i7 3770 3.40GHz, 8GB DDR3, 1TB 7200RPM HDD, Radeon HD 7570, WiFi N, Win 8 $700 + Free shipping
 
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Dell has the Dell XPS 8500 Desktop for $700 with free shipping.

This looks to be same deal as the Black Friday deal from Dell.

Specs:
  • 3rd Generation Intel Core i7 3770 Ivy Bridge Processor 3.40GHz
  • 8GB DDR3 1600
  • 1TB 7200RPM HDD
  • 1GB AMD Radeon HD 7570
  • 16X DVD+/-RW
  • Dell Wireless 1703 802.11b/g/n
  • Bluetooth v4.0+LE
  • Windows 8
  • Inputs
    • 4x USB 2.0
    • 2x USB 3.0
    • HDMI

iconian 11-15-2012 11:52 AM

Dell XPS 8500 Desktop: Core i7 3770 3.40GHz, 8GB DDR3, 1TB 7200RPM HDD, Radeon HD 7570, WiFi N, Win 8 $700 + Free Shipping
 
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Dell Home has Dell XPS 8500 Desktop for $700 with free shipping. Thanks SP33DFR34K

Specs:
  • 3rd Generation Intel Core i7 3770 Ivy Bridge Processor 3.40GHz
  • 8GB DDR3 1600
  • 1TB 7200RPM HDD
  • 1GB AMD Radeon HD 7570
  • 16X DVD+/-RW
  • Dell Wireless 1703 802.11b/g/n
  • Bluetooth v4.0+LE
  • Windows 8
  • Inputs
    • 4x USB 2.0
    • 2x USB 3.0
    • HDMI

wikipost 11-15-2012 11:52 AM

This post can and should be edited by users like you :)
 
Don't forget to use the $400 + $75 gift card deal. You will need to order by calling or by online chat.
http://slickdeals.net/f/5444428-Dell-Gift-Card-Buy-a-400-eGift-Card-Get-a-Free-75-Promo-eGift-Card

And if you use the free Dell Advantage program, you get free two day shipping and 5% back in a promo gift card (approximately $35 for this computer).http://www.dell.com/us/eep/p/d/ca.../advantage

TrevBlu19 11-15-2012 12:04 PM

Hot Deal?

rbreding 11-15-2012 12:07 PM

If it is a white one the white ones usually are special edition ones (get the irony ?) that have the 32gb SSD Msata cache module. Check the specs to see.

Deal is good.

Jiggyfly 11-15-2012 12:12 PM

This is a good deal. Was probably going to pick this up on BF, but I might as well order it ahead of time... does anyone know for sure if they are the same systems?

Crios 11-15-2012 12:17 PM

Remove the McCaffee virus protection and save $0.02

EvaUnitAammar 11-15-2012 12:25 PM

Wonder what the PSU Wattage is.

catalyst11 11-15-2012 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EvaUnitAammar (Post 54819804)
Wonder what the PSU Wattage is.

I've been looking at the XPS 8500 and I think I read on another site it was 460w.

lassie 11-15-2012 12:31 PM

Neither this nor the black Friday deal is much of a deal.

rivermicro 11-15-2012 12:44 PM

How's that video card?

boxturtle 11-15-2012 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rivermicro (Post 54820416)
How's that video card?

Average at best.

richm2004 11-15-2012 01:07 PM

Too bad the $50 coupon(7J3GG34FKRBWWP) no longer works.

lucill22 11-15-2012 03:04 PM

Any chance of getting it with Windows 7??

pureiso 11-15-2012 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EvaUnitAammar (Post 54819804)
Wonder what the PSU Wattage is.

It is a generic 460 watt. I just replaced that in my Dell recently.

Only one six pin for a video card, anything like a 7800 series or higher will definitely need a new PSU.

MaxRider 11-15-2012 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pureiso (Post 54825716)
It is a generic 460 watt. I just replaced that in my Dell recently.

Only one six pin for a video card, anything like a 7800 series or higher will definitely need a new PSU.

i have the 7870 (using two six pins) it's still using the same 460w psu

MaxRider 11-15-2012 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucill22 (Post 54824840)
Any chance of getting it with Windows 7??

call them and ask to downgrade to windows 7
if they don't let you then cancel the order
i ordered one with win7 before win8 is out
they hold my order and tell me they can't ship it with radeon hd 7870 running win7
my only option is hd 7870 win8 or hd 7570 win7 (reduce $50 wtf)

anhxeom 11-15-2012 03:50 PM

Not Hot, but this is a good deal if you are looking for a pre-built system. You might find this system with a monitor package for an additional $100 or less soon.

Waiting for thread crappers to chime in..3..2...1...

Ps3Rules 11-15-2012 04:02 PM

This is a great deal. I doubt you can get this cheaper if you built your own. Awesome specs.

robie88 11-15-2012 04:06 PM

I don't know, I keep thinking they have to come out with a better deal than this for Black Friday/Cyber Monday. They've had this deal out a few times now. While some seemed to think it was decent enough, I saw few stating it was anything great. I'm in the market for a desktop, but am hardly overwhelmed by what they're offering here, at least not as a "special" BF deal.

TigOlBitties 11-15-2012 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lassie (Post 54820042)
Neither this nor the black Friday deal is much of a deal.

Quit trolling, this is not a super slick front page deal, but this is indeed a very good option for someone looking to buy a PC at a good price with a little bit of work. Let me break it down for you little peon.

$800 gets you $950 in gift cards and you will get another $35 promo gift card with dell advantage program. The system costs approximately $760 with tax.

$985 in gift cards - $760 price of the system = $225 net in gift cards. You can easily sell the excess gift cards on ebay for $180 leaving your final cost for this PC around $620ish. Please build me a desktop with these same specs for less than $600.

For this processor and a decent motherboard alone you are looking at $400+ and you still need ram, hard drive, video card, OS, case, PSU, mouse, keyboard, card reader, cables, ect.

lassie 11-15-2012 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigOlBitties (Post 54826652)
Quit trolling, this is not a super slick front page deal, but this is indeed a very good option for someone looking to buy a PC at a good price with a little bit of work. Let me break it down for you little peon.

$800 gets you $950 in gift cards and you will get another $35 promo gift card with dell advantage program. The system costs approximately $760 with tax.

$985 in gift cards - $760 price of the system = $225 net in gift cards. You can easily sell the excess gift cards on ebay for $180 leaving your final cost for this PC around $620ish. Please build me a desktop with these same specs for less than $600.

For this processor and a decent motherboard alone you are looking at $400+ and you still need ram, hard drive, video card, OS, case, PSU, mouse, keyboard, card reader, cables, ect.


Exactly it would have been a good deal if it was selling for $600 tax included but for $760 I'd rather wait for BF round the corner. It will take you at least as much going back and forth the post office during your little ebay scheme

awilkes28 11-15-2012 04:14 PM

Can anyone tell me if this is a good deal or not? I'm not too computer savy lol

hallucinate 11-15-2012 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crios (Post 54819562)
Remove the McCaffee virus protection and save $0.02

Removing McAfee is worth paying for. 2 cents is gravy.

Foreveryours 11-15-2012 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hallucinate (Post 54827244)
Removing McAfee is worth paying for. 2 cents is gravy.

Watch what you say; you don't want to mess with McAfee :lol:

TigOlBitties 11-15-2012 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lassie (Post 54826932)
Exactly it would have been a good deal if it was selling for $600 tax included but for $760 I'd rather wait for BF round the corner. It will take you at least as much going back and forth the post office during your little ebay scheme

Most of the trouble is buying the gift card and waiting for the promos, not selling them on ebay. I did these earlier this year with a previous XPS 8500 system and it wasn't a hassel at all. I didn't even have to go to the post office because you can email the buyer the gift card numbers along with the pin.

It will take much more time and effort to search, buy and build a desktop PC then to sell and email 2-3 gift cards.

Ps3Rules 11-15-2012 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by awilkes28 (Post 54826998)
Can anyone tell me if this is a good deal or not? I'm not too computer savy lol


For the specs it has, it is a good deal. This has very high end type specs. (outside the video card... but that should only matter if you're a hardcore gamer)

shivdaddy 11-15-2012 04:34 PM

Nevermind, I would want a better graphics card.

awilkes28 11-15-2012 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ps3Rules (Post 54827490)
For the specs it has, it is a good deal. This has very high end type specs. (outside the video card... but that should only matter if you're a hardcore gamer)

If I can get on Facebook and Twitter then I'm good to go lol, not much gaming going on here! Thanks for the advice.

baii 11-15-2012 04:36 PM

good deal if you need a i7 but don't game, (pretty rare for a consumer computer though..)

lpax 11-15-2012 04:43 PM

Good deal.. Great specs and 1 year warranty.

lassie 11-15-2012 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigOlBitties (Post 54827372)
Most of the trouble is buying the gift card and waiting for the promos, not selling them on ebay. I did these earlier this year with a previous XPS 8500 system and it wasn't a hassel at all. I didn't even have to go to the post office because you can email the buyer the gift card numbers along with the pin.

It will take much more time and effort to search, buy and build a desktop PC then to sell and email 2-3 gift cards.

emailing the cards, the ebay hassle, building the computer can all be avoided by waiting for a better deal--this is so so

RocketGeek 11-15-2012 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foreveryours (Post 54827270)
Watch what you say; you don't want to mess with McAfee :lol:

Agreed, you don't want to wake up and find a dead body, and your computer hiding under a pile of cardboard while the cops search your house.

I can't believe that sentence even makes sense, but after what I read about John McAfee in Belize...

Jabbit 11-15-2012 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaxRider (Post 54825894)
call them and ask to downgrade to windows 7
if they don't let you then cancel the order
i ordered one with win7 before win8 is out
they hold my order and tell me they can't ship it with radeon hd 7870 running win7
my only option is hd 7870 win8 or hd 7570 win7 (reduce $50 wtf)

I think you can use a Win8 key to activate Win7.

mhohisel 11-15-2012 05:39 PM

Bought this two months ago for 750+tax with a 2TB HDD, its been a great PC. The PSU DOES have 2 power connectors for a video card btw.

twe90kid 11-15-2012 06:35 PM

Are the monitors worth?
Dell S2440L 24-Inch Full HD Monitor with LED [Add $209.99]

wearepsu 11-15-2012 06:36 PM

Most of what I do is photo and video editing. I think this is a perfect fit. 8GB Ram is weak for my use. But I can add an additional 8gb for a lot cheaper than the $175 they are charging for that upgrade.
Is this identical to the blackfriday sale?

robie88 11-15-2012 06:37 PM

I'm having trouble understanding why you would buy this now when you know they're offering the same price on Black Friday? If you hold off, you might find some better deals for BF that might make you reconsider this. By BF it would probably be too late to cancel this order. Also, if you wait for BF and something better comes up for Cyber Monday you can probably still cancel the BF order. So waiting till BF on this, knowing that they will be having it for the same price, seems to open up a number of possible options that you lose if you buy today.

wearepsu 11-15-2012 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robie88 (Post 54830302)
I'm having trouble understanding why you would buy this now when you know they're offering the same price on Black Friday? If you hold off, you might find some better deals for BF that might make you reconsider this. By BF it would probably be too late to cancel this order. Also, if you wait for BF and something better comes up for Cyber Monday you can probably still cancel the BF order. So waiting till BF on this, knowing that they will be having it for the same price, seems to open up a number of possible options that you lose if you buy today.

Will BF have free shipping?

Foreveryours 11-15-2012 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wearepsu (Post 54830406)
Will BF have free shipping?

You may get free trampling, or pepper-spray :lol:

robie88 11-15-2012 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wearepsu (Post 54830406)
Will BF have free shipping?


the scan for their black friday ad, which is available here at slick deals if you poke around the red black friday tab above, says free shipping. Here's the link for the page with the scanned ad:

http://slickdeals.net/blackfriday/deal/dell-home-office/441#product-listing

@twe90kid --

the black friday scan (see the link above) shows the same monitor for $169.99, so unless you are desperate for a monitor this week, if you wait the price will be better -- like I was trying to say above, it seems no matter how you slice it you're better off waiting till black friday on this.

anhxeom 11-15-2012 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by awilkes28 (Post 54826998)
Can anyone tell me if this is a good deal or not? I'm not too computer savy lol

Yes this is a good deal! It is more than enough for the average person.

I bought two of these a few months ago from Costco, but that deal came with a 24"monitor and cost $100 more. Like some of the other have mentioned, the video card is just OK. I installed an 128GD SSD(Sandisk Extreme) in each and made the 1TB HD into a storage drive. The inside is very roomy as you can expect from a tower case of this size, so upgrading to a bigger video card or tuner card shouldn't be a problem. In fact, I even installed a Sapphire HD6870 card that I have laying around and it worked fine with the stock PS. No I didn't put Crysis on, but I'm sure it can handle it. The stock HD 7570 should be fine, I've seen similar system but with Intel 4000 graphic for more than this one.

farmerscotty 11-15-2012 07:52 PM

How does this compare to the Dell? I am looking at this......but not sure since it is posted on FW since 11-11 and nobody has commented...........thanks

Staples
$679.99 HP Pavilion p7-1430 Desktop PC A10-5700 8gb 2tb
$479.99 HP Pavilion p7-1446s Desktop PC A10-5700 8gb 1tb
http://www.staples.com/HP+Pavilio...uct_989660
[NO ReStocking Fee 4 Open box Return]

AMD Quad-Core A10-5700 Accelerated Processor, 1.5TB Hard Drive, 8GB Memory

Features
Next Gen AMD Quad-Core A10-5700 Accelerated Processor
Windows 8
8GB PC3-12800 DDR3-1600 SDRAM
1.5TB 7200RPM Serial ATA hard drive
SuperMulti DVD Burner
1 year limited hardware warranty and 1 year technical support

heaven1991 11-15-2012 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twe90kid (Post 54830252)
Are the monitors worth?
Dell S2440L 24-Inch Full HD Monitor with LED [Add $209.99]

A freaking detailed review http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/revie...s2440l.htm

and Amazon has it for only 199.99 + no tax.



Let's take 30secs to sign up for a free Dell Advancement loyalty account and get the same rig for $686.99. Then the rig alone can be a real tough beast to beat at its price.:bounce:

Sei28 11-15-2012 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by farmerscotty (Post 54832212)
How does this compare to the Dell? I am looking at this......but not sure since it is posted on FW since 11-11 and nobody has commented...........thanks

Staples
$679.99 HP Pavilion p7-1430 Desktop PC A10-5700 8gb 2tb
$479.99 HP Pavilion p7-1446s Desktop PC A10-5700 8gb 1tb
http://www.staples.com/HP+Pavilio...uct_989660
[NO ReStocking Fee 4 Open box Return]

AMD Quad-Core A10-5700 Accelerated Processor, 1.5TB Hard Drive, 8GB Memory

Features
Next Gen AMD Quad-Core A10-5700 Accelerated Processor
Windows 8
8GB PC3-12800 DDR3-1600 SDRAM
1.5TB 7200RPM Serial ATA hard drive
SuperMulti DVD Burner
1 year limited hardware warranty and 1 year technical support

There isn't much of a difference between the two set-ups you listed, so I'd definitely go for the first one ($480 one) if you had to pick one of those HP desktops.

The Dell in this thread has a much superior CPU and a little better video card (none of them are great) compared to the ones you listed, and I also personally prefer Dell to HP in terms of reliability. It is more expensive though, so I would say it depends on what your budget is.

What will you be mostly using your computer for?

MaxRider 11-15-2012 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jabbit (Post 54828716)
I think you can use a Win8 key to activate Win7.

i have win7 key

anhxeom 11-15-2012 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by farmerscotty (Post 54832212)
How does this compare to the Dell? I am looking at this......but not sure since it is posted on FW since 11-11 and nobody has commented...........thanks

Staples
$679.99 HP Pavilion p7-1430 Desktop PC A10-5700 8gb 2tb
$479.99 HP Pavilion p7-1446s Desktop PC A10-5700 8gb 1tb
http://www.staples.com/HP+Pavilio...uct_989660
[NO ReStocking Fee 4 Open box Return]

AMD Quad-Core A10-5700 Accelerated Processor, 1.5TB Hard Drive, 8GB Memory

Features
Next Gen AMD Quad-Core A10-5700 Accelerated Processor
Windows 8
8GB PC3-12800 DDR3-1600 SDRAM
1.5TB 7200RPM Serial ATA hard drive
SuperMulti DVD Burner
1 year limited hardware warranty and 1 year technical support

Both are very capable machines. Since you did not mention what you're specifically planning to use this system for, I will assumed that you just need an all around PC. In that case, get the $479.99 HP. That is a very good price for a system with those specs. However, I would pass up on the $679.99 HP Pavilion p7-1430 and get the Dell instead. For an extra $20, you're get a superior CPU, the i7 3770 over the AMD A10. Althought the A10 is rated at 3.4ghz, it is actually on par with a mid i5 cpu. You RARELY see a i7 system in this price range.

YanksIn2009 11-16-2012 12:55 AM

Couldn't you go through Shopdiscover (10% off) and use a Discover card to pay (another 5% on internet purchases) and get 15% off the total to bring the cost of this down to $594+tax?

noobcake 11-16-2012 01:15 AM

CPU: $210 (Intel Xeon E3-1220), Xeon E3 = Sandy Bridge i7
Mobo: $55 (Foxconn H61AP), a lot of cheap $50-70 H61 mobo out there.
GPU: $35 (MSI R6570-MD1G/LP), 7570 is just a 6570 rebrand for OEM only
RAM: $35 (Any generic 8GB 1600 mhz)
HD: $50 (Seagate 1TB from Newegg)
DVD: $18
Case: $40
PSU: $40 (Decent 450 watt PSU)
OS: $90 Windows 8 OEM

$483 + $90 OS = $573

Where the saving at?

anhxeom 11-16-2012 01:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noobcake (Post 54838338)
CPU: $210 (Intel Xeon E3-1220), Xeon E3 = Sandy Bridge i7
Mobo: $55 (Foxconn H61AP), a lot of cheap $50-70 H61 mobo out there.
GPU: $35 (MSI R6570-MD1G/LP), 7570 is just a 6570 rebrand for OEM only
RAM: $35 (Any generic 8GB 1600 mhz)
HD: $50 (Seagate 1TB from Newegg)
DVD: $18
Case: $40
PSU: $40 (Decent 450 watt PSU)
OS: $90 Windows 8 OEM

$483 + $90 OS = $573

Where the saving at?

It took 4 pages for the first one to show up! We're making progress here....

farmerscotty 11-16-2012 05:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sei28 (Post 54835902)
There isn't much of a difference between the two set-ups you listed, so I'd definitely go for the first one ($480 one) if you had to pick one of those HP desktops.

The Dell in this thread has a much superior CPU and a little better video card (none of them are great) compared to the ones you listed, and I also personally prefer Dell to HP in terms of reliability. It is more expensive though, so I would say it depends on what your budget is.

What will you be mostly using your computer for?


Plan on using it for office work, home computer............thanks Scott!:shake:

dgstan 11-16-2012 07:58 AM

If you can pull off all the gift card shenanigans, then the deal is OK. I picked up this exact system a few months ago from the outlet for $540+tax, and that's about where the bar has been set.

http://slickdeals.net/f/4868488-Dell-XPS-8300-Desktop-PC-Core-i7-2600-3-4GHz-16GB-DDR3-1TB-HDD-HD-6450-HDMI-WiFi-N-Win-7-Prem-4GB-Xbox-360-Console-699-Free-Shipping-Students-Only?p=51585620#post51585620

BTW - It's a great system. I do a lot of CAD work and I find the graphics performance is fine.

trencher7 11-16-2012 08:25 AM

So do I have it right that you can buy two $400 gift cards and get two $75 promo cards which you could apply to the purchase (in my case I will upgrade it to be about $900+tax), but you have to book it by phone or chat in order to apply both promo cards to the purchase?

MaxRider 11-16-2012 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by awilkes28 (Post 54826998)
Can anyone tell me if this is a good deal or not? I'm not too computer savy lol

you have to decide that yourself
some will say that you can save money by having lower specs stuff in your machine
but that's hard unless you build your own machine

i7 3770 itself is $300
a motherboard is about $100
windows 8 oem version is around $100
that's $500 total already
not counting the case, ram, video card, hard drive, power supply unit, etc
sure you can lower it to i5 or sandy bridge and save around $100
still pretty good deal if you ask me

billythebulldog 11-16-2012 08:33 AM

Will this be able to run rise of the triad on max settings?

wearepsu 11-16-2012 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trencher7 (Post 54846162)
So do I have it right that you can buy two $400 gift cards and get two $75 promo cards which you could apply to the purchase (in my case I will upgrade it to be about $900+tax), but you have to book it by phone or chat in order to apply both promo cards to the purchase?

Which upgrades are you looking at? I feel making this a $900 computer is what they want you to do. Their price for upgrades are ridiculously high.

I'm thinking I'll just buy 1 $400 gift card to help shave $75 off the cost, bringing this to $625+Tax.

trencher7 11-16-2012 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wearepsu (Post 54846548)
Which upgrades are you looking at? I feel making this a $900 computer is what they want you to do. Their price for upgrades are ridiculously high.

I'm thinking I'll just buy 1 $400 gift card to help shave $75 off the cost, bringing this to $625+Tax.

Ya you are right they are expensive. I was going to 12 GB of Ram and 2 TB HD and upgrading video card. Is it a setup where you have free slots to add RAM or have to remove what's there to upgrade?

MaxRider 11-16-2012 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trencher7 (Post 54846818)
Ya you are right they are expensive. I was going to 12 GB of Ram and 2 TB HD and upgrading video card. Is it a setup where you have free slots to add RAM or have to remove what's there to upgrade?

The machine has 4 slots. The $699 config has 2x4GB ram, so you have 2 slot to do your own upgrade. Make sure you get the ram with same spec. You can goto crucial.com and check which one you need, 2x4GB is about $40. So you can save around $30 and get up to 16GB of ram if you upgrade it yourself. One can argue that all you need is 8GB even for gaming, which is true.

It's best just buy the $699 config and upgrade the HD and video card yourself. The PSU can handle HD7870 (that's the one I have now in my 8500). I'm not hardcore gamer, but it can play game just fine.

My main complain is adding the 3rd HDD is pain. It only has 4 SATA ports. It was designed for 2 optical drives and 2 HDDs. If you want to save one SATA for the 3rd HDD, then you will have to put the 3rd HDD in the 2nd optical drive spot, because the power cable is not long enough, that's the only space you can put it. I have one screw kind of keep it in place, but it's loose. Just need to becareful when I move it.

wearepsu 11-16-2012 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaxRider (Post 54849014)
The machine has 4 slots. The $699 config has 2x4GB ram, so you have 2 slot to do your own upgrade. Make sure you get the ram with same spec. You can goto crucial.com and check which one you need, 2x4GB is about $40.

Or, $175 through Dell. LOL

sksjedi 11-16-2012 10:03 AM

Getting the runaround from Dell Online Chat about WIN 7 Premium/ultimate! Very frustrating.

Any hints?

YanksIn2009 11-16-2012 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sksjedi (Post 54849786)
Getting the runaround from Dell Online Chat about WIN 7 Premium/ultimate! Very frustrating.

Any hints?


Yeah from what I have heard\seen, they are not being accommodating on Win 7. Seems like they missed the news that the guy who created that piece of garbage just quit(?) MS lol. I wonder how many customers they have to lose before they start giving the option to install Win 7 or 8?

At this point you probably have to re-burn the box with Win 7 yourself. Not that hard to do mind you, but really annoying and you obviously have to have the skill set to do it. You also need to have a copy of Win 7 already.

YanksIn2009 11-16-2012 10:30 AM

Am I missing something or doesn't going through ShopDiscover and paying with a Discover Card for 15% off the total make this a good deal and without all the gift card hassle and run around? $594+tax total.

Yeah you could save a few bucks more getting a $400 gift card, the $75 egift card that comes with it and paying the diff ($225) with your Discover Card (about $34 back) but I hardly think it is worth it. Buying two 400 gift cards seems to only be worth it if you want to upgrade the machine or plan on buying something else from dell in the near future.

dgstan 11-16-2012 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YanksIn2009 (Post 54850340)
Yeah from what I have heard\seen, they are not being accommodating on Win 7. Seems like they missed the news that the guy who created that piece of garbage just quit(?) MS lol. I wonder how many customers they have to lose before they start giving the option to install Win 7 or 8?

At this point you probably have to re-burn the box with Win 7 yourself. Not that hard to do mind you, but really annoying and you obviously have to have the skill set to do it. You also need to have a copy of Win 7 already.

I would imagine most of the systems in the Dell Outlet still have Win7 on them. The XPS13 I got two weeks ago did.

YanksIn2009 11-16-2012 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dgstan (Post 54851472)
I would imagine most of the systems in the Dell Outlet still have Win7 on them. The XPS13 I got two weeks ago did.

Maybe. Those that don't they do not seem willing to install Win 7 on. I think they are ultimately going to hurt themselves with that tactic as I see Win 8 heading down the Windows Me trash heap. I would not want it installed. MS is spending a lot promoting Windows 8. They should have used that billion dollars or so on more development and market research to do things like put the start menu back lol.

MaxRider 11-16-2012 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sksjedi (Post 54849786)
Getting the runaround from Dell Online Chat about WIN 7 Premium/ultimate! Very frustrating.

Any hints?

good luck
i spent more than an hour on phone 2 weeks ago to get them to pricematch the order they cancelled because they can't ship me a win7 pc with the graphic card i had
they claimed microsoft new driver version for that graphic card will not work in win7
finally i told them whatever just ship me the damn machine i'll reinstall win7 myself

MaxRider 11-16-2012 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YanksIn2009 (Post 54850340)
Yeah from what I have heard\seen, they are not being accommodating on Win 7. Seems like they missed the news that the guy who created that piece of garbage just quit(?) MS lol. I wonder how many customers they have to lose before they start giving the option to install Win 7 or 8?

At this point you probably have to re-burn the box with Win 7 yourself. Not that hard to do mind you, but really annoying and you obviously have to have the skill set to do it. You also need to have a copy of Win 7 already.

i thought about doing that too, but i been using win8 for about 3 days now, it's not as bad as i first tried (just learning pain)
main complain for me is open control panel (yea i have to uninstall all those dell preinstalled junks)
in win7 just 2 clicks
in win8 i have to move my mouse to lower left corner and one click to open the modern ui
then right click and click on show all apps (in the lower right hand corner), then find control panel and click on it (don't forget to pin it to start/taskbar, so it will be easier next time)

DJRobNM 11-16-2012 11:36 AM

This is a pretty good deal for those who don't want to build their own.

Costco.com had an HP setup with the same specs (3770, 1TB, 8GB) for $650 earlier this year so good but not amazing.

dooster 11-16-2012 11:41 AM

anyone can comment on the difference between the 2 video card option

AMD Radeon HD 7570 or NVIDIA GeForce GT640 (+$75)

worth it for the upgrade?

Wiz_kid_99 11-16-2012 11:45 AM

This is a good deal for a 3d gen I7 with 1600mhz ram. I was at several stores yesterday and at this price point most places had 2nd gen I5's with 1300mhz ram with integrated video. If you look deeper into it, it has plenty of usb 3 ports and 6gb Sata transfer rate. You can put a higher end GTX card instead if you want with this power supply as long as you don't put more harddrives / optical drives in.
All in all a nice deal.

dealgate 11-16-2012 11:47 AM

I've always wondered if Dell pays SD if something ends up on the front-page. This kind of answers that.

MaxRider 11-16-2012 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dealgate (Post 54853258)
I've always wondered if Dell pays SD if something ends up on the front-page. This kind of answers that.

it's decent deal definitely not worth front page

Wiz_kid_99 11-16-2012 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dooster (Post 54853030)
anyone can comment on the difference between the 2 video card option

AMD Radeon HD 7570 or NVIDIA GeForce GT640 (+$75)

worth it for the upgrade?

No...Do yourself a favor and purchase a higher end GTX card if you are worried about gaming. The 75 bucks isn't worth it.

MaxRider 11-16-2012 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dooster (Post 54853030)
anyone can comment on the difference between the 2 video card option

AMD Radeon HD 7570 or NVIDIA GeForce GT640 (+$75)

worth it for the upgrade?

gt 640 isn't worth $75 more

hawkz 11-16-2012 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaxRider (Post 54852096)
i thought about doing that too, but i been using win8 for about 3 days now, it's not as bad as i first tried (just learning pain)
main complain for me is open control panel (yea i have to uninstall all those dell preinstalled junks)
in win7 just 2 clicks
in win8 i have to move my mouse to lower left corner and one click to open the modern ui
then right click and click on show all apps (in the lower right hand corner), then find control panel and click on it (don't forget to pin it to start/taskbar, so it will be easier next time)

If you're a power user, then you'll need to commit the following key combo to memory: Windows Key + X

This will open up all the important stuff that power users need.

MaxRider 11-16-2012 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wiz_kid_99 (Post 54853192)
This is a good deal for a 3d gen I7 with 1600mhz ram. I was at several stores yesterday and at this price point most places had 2nd gen I5's with 1300mhz ram with integrated video. If you look deeper into it, it has plenty of usb 3 ports and 6gb Sata transfer rate. You can put a higher end GTX card instead if you want with this power supply as long as you don't put more harddrives / optical drives in.
All in all a nice deal.

there is only one 6.0GB SATA port (or SATAIII)
well i have the white edition, not sure how much is different
mine has 2 usb 3.0 in the front and 2 in the back
1 chargeable on top

SP33DFR34K 11-16-2012 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dealgate (Post 54853258)
I've always wondered if Dell pays SD if something ends up on the front-page. This kind of answers that.

Link to a better deal that's available right now?

MaxRider 11-16-2012 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hawkz (Post 54853528)
If you're a power user, then you'll need to commit the following key combo to memory: Windows Key + X

This will open up all the important stuff that power users need.

thanks for the tip
i'm still learning
lot of windows shortcut key i didn't know before i'm using now

PhawkYouToo 11-16-2012 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YanksIn2009 (Post 54850340)
Yeah from what I have heard\seen, they are not being accommodating on Win 7. Seems like they missed the news that the guy who created that piece of garbage just quit(?) MS lol. I wonder how many customers they have to lose before they start giving the option to install Win 7 or 8?

At this point you probably have to re-burn the box with Win 7 yourself. Not that hard to do mind you, but really annoying and you obviously have to have the skill set to do it. You also need to have a copy of Win 7 already.

OR a Win 7 core copy, oem xrm-ms cert and oem key. All easly found! This bios should already have all of the necessary SLP info.

wearepsu 11-16-2012 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SP33DFR34K (Post 54853620)
Link to a better deal that's available right now?

Just because something is the best deal available today doesn't mean it's a great deal. One big lesson of Slickdeals is to be patient (and also impulsive if something great comes along).

lassie 11-16-2012 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wearepsu (Post 54853932)
Just because something is the best deal available today doesn't mean it's a great deal. One big lesson of Slickdeals is to be patient (and also impulsive if something great comes along).


well said. I can't believe people still discussing this. This computer is available for $700, will be $700 until end of november, and will cost the same or less in december. THIS IS THE REGULAR PRICE. Wait for a discount to it. Dell definitely pays to be on front page and have posters promoting it.

playdoh 11-16-2012 12:11 PM

There will not be much better deals for this type of system on Black Friday or any other day. Go look at last year's BF. For this type of system $700 is a rock solid price. You can find cheaper parts ordering it by yourself and building it yourself, but not everyone wants to do that.

Even refurb systems with these types of specs rarely go for 700 and definitely not cheaper.

SP33DFR34K 11-16-2012 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wearepsu (Post 54853932)
Just because something is the best deal available today doesn't mean it's a great deal. One big lesson of Slickdeals is to be patient (and also impulsive if something great comes along).

But can you predict the future of when a great deal will happen? How long do we have to wait? Just because Black Friday is next week, doesn't mean we're going to stop posting deals.

Besides I checked out all the Black Friday ads and didn't see a deal that is any better than this. If you see a better one, let us know because we'll gladly post it (or you can post it). I also plan on getting an XPS 8500, so you'll be saving me more money as well ;)

klogdog 11-16-2012 12:18 PM

also call into cancel after it ships. Tell them you are looking for a better deal. They are automatically authorized to get 10% off. They will try and low ball it at first. Suggest that $70 would satisfy you. They will say hold on and then authorize it.

wearepsu 11-16-2012 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SP33DFR34K (Post 54854154)
But can you predict the future of when a great deal will happen? How long do we have to wait? Just because Black Friday is next week, doesn't mean we're going to stop posting deals.

Besides I checked out all the Black Friday ads and didn't see a deal that is any better than this. If you see a better one, let us know because we'll gladly post it (or you can post it). I also plan on getting an XPS 8500, so you'll be saving me more money as well ;)

Black Friday is not the end all be all for sales either (especially for higher priced items). Black Friday is a better opportunity to buy loss leaders, like cheaply made laptops.

A better deal was this same thing last month, but with a 2tb hard drive for the same price.
http://slickdeals.net/permadeal/81714/dell-home-office-dell-xps-8500-desktop-core-i7-3770-3.40ghz-8gb-ddr3-2tb-7200rpm-hdd-radeon-hd-7570-wifi-n-win-7-home-prem

thereal411 11-16-2012 12:23 PM

I called to cancel since I ordered 2, somewhat by accident, and they offered to reduce the price if I would keep it.. I didn't get the details..

Quote:

Originally Posted by klogdog (Post 54854378)
also call into cancel after it ships. Tell them you are looking for a better deal. They are automatically authorized to get 10% off. They will try and low ball it at first. Suggest that $70 would satisfy you. They will say hold on and then authorize it.


bchengcnix 11-16-2012 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klogdog (Post 54854378)
also call into cancel after it ships. Tell them you are looking for a better deal. They are automatically authorized to get 10% off. They will try and low ball it at first. Suggest that $70 would satisfy you. They will say hold on and then authorize it.


This. It worked for me when I ordered this back when it was $750

PerlAddict 11-16-2012 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ps3Rules (Post 54826544)
This is a great deal. I doubt you can get this cheaper if you built your own. Awesome specs.

You'd be wrong. But okay deal for folks without the desire or inclination to build their own. Wouldn't think this is FP material, though.

lassie 11-16-2012 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PerlAddict (Post 54854628)
You'd be wrong. But okay deal for folks without the desire or inclination to build their own. Wouldn't think this is FP material, though.

$700 is the regular price for this. Not a bad price but definitely not FP. Good to know about it but far from a good deal. And as everybody knows one good deal or more is possible every month or so.

ALSO shouldn't we get a discount for trying Windows 8?? It does not sell well and they will soon have a backlog of those in their warehouses.

jaeshim 11-16-2012 12:31 PM

if i dont use the optical drive, can i get 4 harddrives in there? i want to use 1 as the main and 3 for the storage spaces feature

MaxRider 11-16-2012 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PerlAddict (Post 54854628)
You'd be wrong. But okay deal for folks without the desire or inclination to build their own. Wouldn't think this is FP material, though.

if you think you can build your own cheaper with same spec please list all the component and price

MaxRider 11-16-2012 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaeshim (Post 54854894)
if i dont use the optical drive, can i get 4 harddrives in there? i want to use 1 as the main and 3 for the storage spaces feature

yes
you would have to put one HDD in the 2nd optical drive space
be warn that there is nothing to keep that HDD in the slot
best you could do is have one screw kind of holding it in place
another HDD can go into the functional slot (not sure what dell called it)
the HDD will fit right into it (pretty tight though, not sure how good the airflow will be)

lassie 11-16-2012 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SP33DFR34K (Post 54854154)
Besides I checked out all the Black Friday ads and didn't see a deal that is any better than this.

Everybody knows that the best BF/CM deals are the ones announced those days.

thammara 11-16-2012 12:40 PM

If I needed to buy another PC I would get W8. I didn't want to upgrade from W7 on my current PC because of early bad reviews, but I eventually did just to get WP8 SDK.

I actually like it. It's faster and smoother than W7. Although not as dramatic as moving from XP to W7, but it very noticeable. People hates the fact that the Start button is missing, but actually Metro is a replacement of the Start Button. Instead of a pull up menu, it takes you to Metro, where you can find all your programs. Plus, all my programs works on W8, including Steam, Origin, Gimp, InkScape, all my games, etc..

That said, I don't think it's worth paying $100+ for W8 if you already have W7. However, it's worth it for $40(MS upgrade download special) and definitely worth it if it's FREE. It's worth it just for the smoothness and performance upgrade alone.

Also, it's sweet when you have dual monitors.

Defying_Odds 11-16-2012 12:50 PM

Will the graphics card it comes with support two monitors? I am purchasing for someone who uses it for business purposes/home computer and has 2 monitors currently. He basically just browses the internet and uses office pro programs and adobe...

Gdog2004 11-16-2012 12:51 PM

Not a bad deal. Not great though...this is a great machine though.

MaxRider 11-16-2012 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Defying_Odds (Post 54855478)
Will the graphics card it comes with support two monitors? I am purchasing for someone who uses it for business purposes/home computer and has 2 monitors currently. He basically just browses the internet and uses office pro programs and adobe...

yes it supports dual monitor
but i think 7570 has one DVI and one VGA and one HDMI outputs
not as convenient as gtx where you have two DVI

Defying_Odds 11-16-2012 01:04 PM

Thanks does anyone know if there is enough time to still order the gift cards or will the deal be expired by the time you receive them?

aquajon 11-16-2012 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Defying_Odds (Post 54855886)
Thanks does anyone know if there is enough time to still order the gift cards or will the deal be expired by the time you receive them?

I did the gift card shenanigans just now, still in my 30+ minute long dell chat to finalize everything.

dirtyvu 11-16-2012 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaxRider (Post 54852096)
in win8 i have to move my mouse to lower left corner and one click to open the modern ui
then right click and click on show all apps (in the lower right hand corner), then find control panel and click on it (don't forget to pin it to start/taskbar, so it will be easier next time)

or you can just hit win+x
or just right-click on the lower left corner to open the quick access menu and choose control panel. Like with any OS, there are new shortcuts to learn.
you can also pin the control panel to the start screen.
and you can show administrative tools in the start screen (it's in the settings).

I think if people explore Windows 8 more, they'll see some really neat things besides the performance improvements.

but if you want things to look like Windows 7, you can totally tailor it either through the built-in settings or via third-party stuff. the only thing that you can't get back is the Aero theme. but that will probably be brought back by some third party.

it seems silly to request windows 7. windows 8 has the same functionality. and you can restore the windows 7 style start menu easily.

and if you don't want to use metro apps, don't download them. but there are lots of free apps in the store and some of them are pretty great. so to avoid them out of principle is kind of crazy.

Defying_Odds 11-16-2012 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aquajon (Post 54855944)
I did the gift card shenanigans just now, still in my 30+ minute long dell chat to finalize everything.

Did you receive the gift card already or is that what is causing the delay?

dooster 11-16-2012 01:12 PM

So close to pulling the trigger, any additional way to save more $$?

MaxRider 11-16-2012 01:13 PM

yea win8 aint too bad, it's lot smoother than win7, i turn off aero anyway so no big deal, i only used it for 3 days, i'm willing to try it for a month then decide if i want to keep it or i'll reinstall win7
so far all the program i used in win7 is working in win8

aquajon 11-16-2012 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Defying_Odds (Post 54856048)
Did you receive the gift card already or is that what is causing the delay?

I got them via email within 10 minutes of ordering

Defying_Odds 11-16-2012 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aquajon (Post 54856252)
I got them via email within 10 minutes of ordering

So why are you having an issue ordering?

PerlAddict 11-16-2012 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaxRider (Post 54854986)
if you think you can build your own cheaper with same spec please list all the component and price

Since comments like this so often go unanswered .....

Challenge Accepted:

i7-3370: $230
LGA1155 Motherboard: $88 [newegg.com]
8GB (2x4GB) RAM: $27
1TB 7200rpm HDD: $50
1GB HD7770 Video Card: $117 [newegg.com]
16X DVD-R/W: $17 [newegg.com]
Wireless b/g/n PCI card: $10 [newegg.com]
Bluetooth 4.0: $13 [newegg.com]
Raidmax Mid-Tower Case: $30
450W PSU: $32 [newegg.com]
Windows 8 64-Bit Home: $85 [amazon.com] (down to $70 in the last few weeks, but $85 currently. Deals popping up weekly)

Total: $699, many parts possibly without tax.

Radeon 7570 video card is an older-gen card rebranded under the 7000-series family for OEM's, so I had to bump that up to a better 7770 video card. Hope that's alright. ;) You wanted comparable, but unfortunately, it's hard to find products as crappy as the OEM stuff Dell puts in their systems on the open market. The PSU is about the only exception; there are crappy PSU's to be had everywhere. Funny, since it's probably the most important part of a system. If it was me, I'd spend at least $20 more and get a quality PSU. But there ya go. Having to retail for Windows 8 versus having a bulk license really hurts your bottom line, too. If you have an upgrade option available to you, you'll save even more.

Edit: And yes, I configured a system for a mere $1 cheaper on purpose, since the challenge was "for less." Anybody can price up a cheap home-built system ... it takes more skill to be a smart-ass on the bare-minimum margin. ;) If you wanted to save more money, there are certainly ways, especially if you weren't buying it all today and the deal shopped over a month's time. If I pieced this same computer together using deals from the past month, we could knock off respectable amount off that.

aquajon 11-16-2012 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Defying_Odds (Post 54856346)
So why are you having an issue ordering?

Online only takes one coupon, so I have to have sales apply both and they are SLOW.

ETA: 90 minutes now and still going.

ArmchairQB 11-16-2012 01:27 PM

I have had two of four of these needing a motherboard replacement due to intermittent NIC failure.

MaxRider 11-16-2012 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PerlAddict (Post 54856490)
Since comments like this so often go unanswered .....

Challenge Accepted:

i7-3370: $230
LGA1155 Motherboard: $88 [newegg.com]
8GB (2x4GB) RAM: $27
1TB 7200rpm HDD: $50
1GB HD7770 Video Card: $117 [newegg.com]
16X DVD-R/W: $17 [newegg.com]
Wireless b/g/n PCI card: $10 [newegg.com]
Bluetooth 4.0: $13 [newegg.com]
Raidmax Mid-Tower Case: $30
450W PSU: $32 [newegg.com]
Windows 8 64-Bit Home: $85 [amazon.com] (down to $70 in the last few weeks, but $85 currently. Deals popping up weekly)

Total: $699, many parts possibly without tax.

Radeon 7570 video card is an OEM card, so I had to bump that up to a 7770 video card. Hope that's alright. ;) Or spend a few bucks more and upgrade the crappy PSU. You wanted comparable, but unfortunately, it's hard to find products as crappy as the OEM stuff Dell puts in their systems on the open market. The PSU is about the only exception; there are crappy PSU's to be had everywhere. Funny, since it's probably the most important part of a system. If it was me, I'd spend at least $20 more and get a quality PSU. But there ya go. Having to retail for Windows 8 versus having a bulk license really hurts your bottom line, too. If you have an upgrade option available to you, you'll save even more.

pretty good, you're missing the 19:1 memory card reader though
basically price is about the same for building it yourself
you save energy for putting that thing together and you got dell xps support

bdole 11-16-2012 01:34 PM

This is such a great post. Thanks for simplifying and quantifying how to pick out a comparable DIY system.

Quote:

Originally Posted by PerlAddict (Post 54856490)
Since comments like this so often go unanswered .....

Challenge Accepted:

i7-3370: $230
LGA1155 Motherboard: $88 [newegg.com]
8GB (2x4GB) RAM: $27
1TB 7200rpm HDD: $50
1GB HD7770 Video Card: $117 [newegg.com]
16X DVD-R/W: $17 [newegg.com]
Wireless b/g/n PCI card: $10 [newegg.com]
Bluetooth 4.0: $13 [newegg.com]
Raidmax Mid-Tower Case: $30
450W PSU: $32 [newegg.com]
Windows 8 64-Bit Home: $85 [amazon.com] (down to $70 in the last few weeks, but $85 currently. Deals popping up weekly)

Total: $699, many parts possibly without tax.

Radeon 7570 video card is an older-gen card rebranded under the 7000-series family as an OEM card, so I had to bump that up to a 7770 video card. Hope that's alright. ;) Or spend a few bucks more and upgrade the crappy PSU. You wanted comparable, but unfortunately, it's hard to find products as crappy as the OEM stuff Dell puts in their systems on the open market. The PSU is about the only exception; there are crappy PSU's to be had everywhere. Funny, since it's probably the most important part of a system. If it was me, I'd spend at least $20 more and get a quality PSU. But there ya go. Having to retail for Windows 8 versus having a bulk license really hurts your bottom line, too. If you have an upgrade option available to you, you'll save even more.


GElite 11-16-2012 01:36 PM

Just got it. Amazing deal. I even got $15'ish dollars off the $699.99 because I'm a EPP college student. Beast of a computer. The 3rd gen i7 3770 can do anything.
Just don't plan on playing any crazy games on Ultra settings on account of the 7570. More than adequate for anything else. Get a Xbox 360 for gaming. We have halo anyway.

Go for it!

sksjedi 11-16-2012 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirtyvu (Post 54855962)
it seems silly to request windows 7. windows 8 has the same functionality. and you can restore the windows 7 style start menu easily.

.

My issue is that I have the original Windows Home Server on my HP EX475 as the backbone to my streaming/music, etc and from what I can gather, I can't really use WIN 8 with WHS together. Everything else in the home is a WIN 7 machine. I'd like to keep it simple.

wearepsu 11-16-2012 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PerlAddict (Post 54856490)
Since comments like this so often go unanswered .....

Challenge Accepted:

i7-3370: $230

Great writeup. But, this 3770 processor really is what makes your deal great. That Micro Center CPU is an amazing deal. Unless you have a MicroCenter in your town (that still has a 3770 left), you're looking at another $80 for that cpu.

GElite 11-16-2012 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sksjedi (Post 54856930)
My issue is that I have the original Windows Home Server on my HP EX475 as the backbone to my streaming/music, etc and from what I can gather, I can't really use WIN 8 with WHS together. Everything else in the home is a WIN 7 machine. I'd like to keep it simple.

You can always downgrade it to 7. I for one actually like Windows 8. There's even a scheduled task trick to make it boot to the desktop just like Windows 7.

AGpennypacker 11-16-2012 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PerlAddict (Post 54856490)
Since comments like this so often go unanswered .....

Challenge Accepted:

i7-3370: $230
LGA1155 Motherboard: $88 [newegg.com]
8GB (2x4GB) RAM: $27
1TB 7200rpm HDD: $50
1GB HD7770 Video Card: $117 [newegg.com]
16X DVD-R/W: $17 [newegg.com]
Wireless b/g/n PCI card: $10 [newegg.com]
Bluetooth 4.0: $13 [newegg.com]
Raidmax Mid-Tower Case: $30
450W PSU: $32 [newegg.com]
Windows 8 64-Bit Home: $85 [amazon.com] (down to $70 in the last few weeks, but $85 currently. Deals popping up weekly)

Total: $699, many parts possibly without tax.

Radeon 7570 video card is an older-gen card rebranded under the 7000-series family for OEM's, so I had to bump that up to a better 7770 video card. Hope that's alright. ;) You wanted comparable, but unfortunately, it's hard to find products as crappy as the OEM stuff Dell puts in their systems on the open market. The PSU is about the only exception; there are crappy PSU's to be had everywhere. Funny, since it's probably the most important part of a system. If it was me, I'd spend at least $20 more and get a quality PSU. But there ya go. Having to retail for Windows 8 versus having a bulk license really hurts your bottom line, too. If you have an upgrade option available to you, you'll save even more.


you've actually come close to getting cheaper, but it's still the same price (yes better gpu, but no mouse/keyboard.) but i think that just points to how bad of a fp deal this is. decent deal yes, but not fp.

also, for the same price i would rather have a prebuilt so i have 1 company to deal with warranty wise and i dont have to waste time building and managing the software

Ps3Rules 11-16-2012 01:50 PM

nvm delete

GElite 11-16-2012 01:50 PM

I can tell you from experience.

Most consumer grade computer cases are cr*ap quality unless you spend for a really expensive one. My last Enermax case the Mix jack was defective and the side 180mm fan noise drove me nuts..

With Dell you know your getting mass consumer grade quality. This puts ahead of most custom PC builds because you'd have to spend more for a decent case. This makes the build price go up (common sense).

**

Also this explains why there's so many horror stories from company's like Cyberpower PC and IBuypower.

Ps3Rules 11-16-2012 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PerlAddict (Post 54856490)
Since comments like this so often go unanswered .....

Challenge Accepted:

i7-3370: $230
LGA1155 Motherboard: $88 [newegg.com]
8GB (2x4GB) RAM: $27
1TB 7200rpm HDD: $50
1GB HD7770 Video Card: $117 [newegg.com]
16X DVD-R/W: $17 [newegg.com]
Wireless b/g/n PCI card: $10 [newegg.com]
Bluetooth 4.0: $13 [newegg.com]
Raidmax Mid-Tower Case: $30
450W PSU: $32 [newegg.com]
Windows 8 64-Bit Home: $85 [amazon.com] (down to $70 in the last few weeks, but $85 currently. Deals popping up weekly)

Total: $699, many parts possibly without tax.

Radeon 7570 video card is an older-gen card rebranded under the 7000-series family for OEM's, so I had to bump that up to a better 7770 video card. Hope that's alright. ;) You wanted comparable, but unfortunately, it's hard to find products as crappy as the OEM stuff Dell puts in their systems on the open market. The PSU is about the only exception; there are crappy PSU's to be had everywhere. Funny, since it's probably the most important part of a system. If it was me, I'd spend at least $20 more and get a quality PSU. But there ya go. Having to retail for Windows 8 versus having a bulk license really hurts your bottom line, too. If you have an upgrade option available to you, you'll save even more.

Edit: And yes, I configured a system for a mere $1 cheaper on purpose, since the challenge was "for less." Anybody can price up a cheap home-built system ... it takes more skill to be a smart-ass on the bare-minimum margin. ;) If you wanted to save more money, there are certainly ways, especially if you weren't buying it all today and the deal shopped over a month's time. If I pieced this same computer together using deals from the past month, we could knock off respectable amount off that.

Good effort but those prices are with coupons and rebates. No wholesystem warranty or support included either. Seems like a lot of work for $1 savings.

GElite 11-16-2012 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PerlAddict (Post 54856490)
Since comments like this so often go unanswered .....

Challenge Accepted:

i7-3370: $230
LGA1155 Motherboard: $88 [newegg.com]
8GB (2x4GB) RAM: $27
1TB 7200rpm HDD: $50
1GB HD7770 Video Card: $117 [newegg.com]
16X DVD-R/W: $17 [newegg.com]
Wireless b/g/n PCI card: $10 [newegg.com]
Bluetooth 4.0: $13 [newegg.com]
Raidmax Mid-Tower Case: $30
450W PSU: $32 [newegg.com]
Windows 8 64-Bit Home: $85 [amazon.com] (down to $70 in the last few weeks, but $85 currently. Deals popping up weekly)

Total: $699, many parts possibly without tax.

Radeon 7570 video card is an older-gen card rebranded under the 7000-series family for OEM's, so I had to bump that up to a better 7770 video card. Hope that's alright. ;) You wanted comparable, but unfortunately, it's hard to find products as crappy as the OEM stuff Dell puts in their systems on the open market. The PSU is about the only exception; there are crappy PSU's to be had everywhere. Funny, since it's probably the most important part of a system. If it was me, I'd spend at least $20 more and get a quality PSU. But there ya go. Having to retail for Windows 8 versus having a bulk license really hurts your bottom line, too. If you have an upgrade option available to you, you'll save even more.

Edit: And yes, I configured a system for a mere $1 cheaper on purpose, since the challenge was "for less." Anybody can price up a cheap home-built system ... it takes more skill to be a smart-ass on the bare-minimum margin. ;) If you wanted to save more money, there are certainly ways, especially if you weren't buying it all today and the deal shopped over a month's time. If I pieced this same computer together using deals from the past month, we could knock off respectable amount off that.

Your really spending extra for the 7770 for nothing. Neither one of these cards are good for gaming. But more than adequate for anything else. Want to game? Get a Xbox. Playing Halo 4 on a LED TV will be much better than your 7770.

This Black Friday deal from Dell is one the THE best this season.

PerlAddict 11-16-2012 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GElite (Post 54857834)
Your really spending extra for the 7770 for nothing. Neither one of these cards are good for gaming. But more than adequate for anything else. Want to game? Get a Xbox. Playing Halo 4 on a LED TV will be much better than your 7770.

7770's about as low as you can go and still be above the 7570, which isn't available on the open market. Hence that part.

GElite 11-16-2012 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PerlAddict (Post 54857876)
7770's about as low as you can go and still be above the 7570, which isn't available on the open market. Hence that part.

Please see above post.

Yes it's a slightly better card but for no application. Also your missing out on this deal.

PerlAddict 11-16-2012 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaxRider (Post 54856706)
pretty good, you're missing the 19:1 memory card reader though
basically price is about the same for building it yourself
you save energy for putting that thing together and you got dell xps support

Except all the components in this are quality components. You could easily knock another 10% off this by doing your homework the way a good slickdealer should. Or spending that extra 10% to get something nicer, like an SSD and double the RAM.

The challenge was "cheaper." Are you people really going to make me build you the sh*ttiest computer possible with comparable specs? Because that WILL be your best comparison to Dell. :)

PerlAddict 11-16-2012 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GElite (Post 54857992)
Please see above post.

I did. Hence the reply stating why it was chosen. You aren't spending "more for nothing," because you can't spend more on the 7770 than you can on the 7570 ... reason being is that you can't buy the 7570 as a consumer, and you have to put SOMETHING in. If the word "comparable" wasn't in the challenge, I would have just tossed in a motherboard with integrated graphics

lambo47 11-16-2012 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaxRider (Post 54854986)
if you think you can build your own cheaper with same spec please list all the component and price

$70 - ASRock H77 Mobo http://www.newegg.com/Product/Pro...6813157303
$37.99 -Cooler Master TC101B Mid Tower ATX Case with 500W Power Supply http://www.frys.com/product/70899...IN_RSLT_PG
$39.99 - G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Pro...6820231428
$49.99 - Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200 RPM Hard Drive http://www.newegg.com/Product/Pro...6822148697
$299.99 - Intel Core i7-3770 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Pro...6819116502
$27.88 - GIGABYTE Bluetooth 4.0/Wi-Fi card http://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-Ex...etooth+pci
$18.99 - Sony Optiarc 24X DVD Burner http://www.newegg.com/Product/Pro...6827118067

Total: $545 without a Graphics Card
Everything has FS except the case and psu combo from frys, which you can just buy in store.

I tried but, I couldn't make a cheaper build for this cpu. With the gift cards you can get the Dell PC for about $550 (before taxes). I guess this is an alright deal, you basically get a free graphics card, a free OS, and dell's warranty. Also you dont have to build it yourself. Im still going to pass on it and make a i5 3570k build from components I buy on BF.

GElite 11-16-2012 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lambo47 (Post 54858122)
$70 - ASRock H77 Mobo http://www.newegg.com/Product/Pro...6813157303
$37.99 -Cooler Master TC101B Mid Tower ATX Case with 500W Power Supply http://www.frys.com/product/70899...IN_RSLT_PG
$39.99 - G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Pro...6820231428
$49.99 - Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200 RPM Hard Drive http://www.newegg.com/Product/Pro...6822148697
$299.99 - Intel Core i7-3770 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Pro...6819116502
$27.88 - GIGABYTE Bluetooth 4.0/Wi-Fi card http://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-Ex...etooth+pci
$18.99 - Sony Optiarc 24X DVD Burner http://www.newegg.com/Product/Pro...6827118067

Total: $545 without a Graphics Card
Everything has FS except the case and psu combo from frys, which you can just buy in store.

I tried but, I couldn't make a cheaper build for this cpu. With the gift cards you can get the Dell PC for about $550 (before taxes). I guess this is an alright deal, you basically get a free graphics card, a free OS, and dell's warranty. Also you dont have to build it yourself. Im still going to pass on it and make a i5 3570k build from components I buy on BF.

To each his own. Both of these cards are not for serious gaming. If you ask me PC gaming died in 2005 (unofficially of course). I don't know where your gift cards and $550 figure comes from. But I'll be playing the beautiful HD Halo 4 on my LED TV locked at not below 30 fps. I think this deal wins out.

MaxRider 11-16-2012 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PerlAddict (Post 54858000)
Except all the components in this are quality components. You could easily knock another 10% off this by doing your homework the way a good slickdealer should. Or spending that extra 10% to get something nicer, like an SSD and double the RAM.

The challenge was "cheaper." Are you people really going to make me build you the sh*ttiest computer possible with comparable specs? Because that WILL be your best comparison to Dell. :)

isn't that's the point?
everytime someone post a prebuilt machine deal
someone will come and say they can build one cheaper
then prove to us you can build one cheaper
if you are going to spend more and build a better one then you are not comparing the same thing
my previous dell xps 420 is still working (after 5.5 years)
i just got my xps 8500 earlier this week
it's not made with the best material but it's still pretty solid

not sure if you are an apple fan
because apple fan kept saying how well apple product is
well it's still made out of plastic and just because it's shinny doesn't mean it's made with premium material

Quote:

Originally Posted by lambo47 (Post 54858122)
$70 - ASRock H77 Mobo http://www.newegg.com/Product/Pro...6813157303
$37.99 -Cooler Master TC101B Mid Tower ATX Case with 500W Power Supply http://www.frys.com/product/70899...IN_RSLT_PG
$39.99 - G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Pro...6820231428
$49.99 - Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200 RPM Hard Drive http://www.newegg.com/Product/Pro...6822148697
$299.99 - Intel Core i7-3770 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Pro...6819116502
$27.88 - GIGABYTE Bluetooth 4.0/Wi-Fi card http://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-Ex...etooth+pci
$18.99 - Sony Optiarc 24X DVD Burner http://www.newegg.com/Product/Pro...6827118067

Total: $545 without a Graphics Card
Everything has FS except the case and psu combo from frys, which you can just buy in store.

I tried but, I couldn't make a cheaper build for this cpu. With the gift cards you can get the Dell PC for about $550 (before taxes). I guess this is an alright deal, you basically get a free graphics card, a free OS, and dell's warranty. Also you dont have to build it yourself. Im still going to pass on it and make a i5 3570k build from components I buy on BF.

you forgot to include windows 8

PerlAddict 11-16-2012 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GElite (Post 54857834)
This Black Friday deal from Dell is one the THE best this season.

Heh ... if you think so, then you don't know how to truly SlickDeal. ;)

From a friend I couldn't convince not to go the Dell route, delivered 11/2/12:

Quote:

XPS 8500
3rd Gen Intel Core i7-3770 processor 3.40 GHz with Turbo Boost 2.0 up to 3.90 GHz
8GB DDR3 SDRAM AT 1600MHZ-2x4GB
Dell KB213 Wired Multimedia Keyboard, US-English
NVIDIA GeForce GT 640 1GB GDDR5 for Win 8
2TB SATA 6Gb/s,7200RPM
XPS 8500, Black Chassis w/19:1 media card reader
Windows 8, 64-bit, English
Dell USB 6-Button Laser Mouse
Integrated 10/100/1000 Ethernet
16X DVD+/-RW
Integrated 7.1 with WAVE MAXXAudio 4
Dell Wireless 1703 802.11b/g/n, Bluetooth v4.0+LE
(... omitting lots of other meaningless bits of info farther down the packing list)
Tracking Number: XXXXXXXXXX
Carrier: FEDEX EXPRESS
Shipped On: 10/31/2012
Shipping Method: Next Business Day
Order Date: 10/26/2012
Dell Purchase ID: XXXXXXXXXXXXX
Order Number: XXXXXXXXXXXX
Customer Number:XXXXXXXXXXXXX

Item Sub Total $600.71
Item Ship Charge $0.00
Item Tax $49.60

Item Total $650.31

And that was with a with a $70 charge built in for "954-1820 *Premium Phone Support, Initial Year". Gonna see if maybe that can't be credited. Bringing total system cost down to $530.71 before tax.

THE deal my butt. =P

Trakanonn 11-16-2012 02:21 PM

in after the BUILD IT YOURSELF! elitists.


Ive had this PC for 3 months, maybe I can give you an idea of its performance.

It is awesome.. If you are a more hardcore gamer, the PSU can handle a new card such as 7770 or 6850. It's 460w if I recall. THat was my plan, UNTIL I noticed that the 7570 that it comes with actually isnt horrible at all.. I play World of Warcraft and get up to 110 FPS, average probably around 50-70 and that is on high settings. It plays Skyrim on high as well, other games like TF2 on ultra. If you want the cutting edge games right when they released, then Id prob get a better graphics card, if not, then it's perfectly fine. As for internet use it is amazing, as should be expected. It loads applications in a breeze. Rebooting computer takes about half a minute, maybe quicker with the 3770.

It comes with a few Dell software products that you can uninstal, but overall it didn't seem to have any unusual amount of junk installed.

It also comes with a VGA/DVI adapter if you have an old monitor.

The keyboard is absolutely 100% without a doubt the worst piece of compiled crap I have ever used, you will not like the keyboard. I mistype every other word with it.

PerlAddict 11-16-2012 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaxRider (Post 54858246)
isn't that's the point?
everytime someone post a prebuilt machine deal
someone will come and say they can build one cheaper
then prove to us you can build one cheaper
if you are going to spend more and build a better one then you are not comparing the same thing
my previous dell xps 420 is still working (after 5.5 years)
i just got my xps 8500 earlier this week
it's not made with the best material but it's still pretty solid

not sure if you are an apple fan
because apple fan kept saying how well apple product is
well it's still made out of plastic and just because it's shinny doesn't mean it's made with premium material

Not an Apple fan, personally. And yeah, that was the point. So I wasn't comparing the same thing as requested after all, I suppose. I mean, my quickie 30 minute build was cheaper AND quality, versus just cheaper. :)

Now imagine what you could do with a whole week of taking your time to shop it out. :)

anhxeom 11-16-2012 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PerlAddict (Post 54856490)
Since comments like this so often go unanswered .....

Challenge Accepted:

i7-3370: $230
LGA1155 Motherboard: $88 [newegg.com]
8GB (2x4GB) RAM: $27
1TB 7200rpm HDD: $50
1GB HD7770 Video Card: $117 [newegg.com]
16X DVD-R/W: $17 [newegg.com]
Wireless b/g/n PCI card: $10 [newegg.com]
Bluetooth 4.0: $13 [newegg.com]
Raidmax Mid-Tower Case: $30
450W PSU: $32 [newegg.com]
Windows 8 64-Bit Home: $85 [amazon.com] (down to $70 in the last few weeks, but $85 currently. Deals popping up weekly)

Total: $699, many parts possibly without tax.

Most of the time they are answered without anyone even asking!

murtaxa 11-16-2012 02:49 PM

how is this deal?

http://outlet.us.dell.com/ArbOnli...d=EEP81ZLJ

YanksIn2009 11-16-2012 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anhxeom (Post 54859096)
Most of the time they are answered without anyone even asking!

Do no want to get into a build it yourself discussion, but since you can get this through ShopDiscover (10% off Dell) and purchase with Discover (5% Internet sale) for about $594 or play the gift card game for slightly less, shouldn't you have to build one at that price point? The 5% Discover Internet sale may apply to everything you are buying to piece together, but the 10% from Shopdiscover will not. And obviously the gift cards from dell are not in play. So you should all be shooting for around $630 give or take not $699.

airfreshjoe 11-16-2012 02:55 PM

Excuse my noobness, so in general you are only saving about 75+35=110 dollars right?

So at the end you end up paying about $590 with free 2 day shipping?

frumply 11-16-2012 02:57 PM

this... looks pretty good.

How many free HDD bays does it have, any extra PCI slots? I know I'm gonna have to ditch my PCI-only HD capture card sooner or later but I want to continue to have a single desktop PC that more or less double duties as a server/HTPC.

YanksIn2009 11-16-2012 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by airfreshjoe (Post 54859520)
Excuse my noobness, so in general you are only saving about 75+35=110 dollars right?

So at the end you end up paying about $590 with free 2 day shipping?


Yes...plus tax where applicable. I do not know if "only" saving 105 on a 699 purchase is the way I would phrase it though. The Gift card game with one gift card can yield you a slightly cheaper return but not worth the trouble imo. If you get 2 gift cards then you are forced to buy some overpriced Dell stuff in the next 90 days or upgrade the PC. Not bad, but it depends on what you want and need.

airfreshjoe 11-16-2012 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by murtaxa (Post 54859316)


how did u get this?

Quote:

Originally Posted by YanksIn2009 (Post 54859676)
Yes...plus tax where applicable. I do not know if "only" saving 105 on a 699 purchase is the way I would phrase it though. The Gift card game with one gift card can yield you a slightly cheaper return but not worth the trouble imo. If you get 2 gift cards then you are forced to buy some overpriced Dell stuff in the next 90 days or upgrade the PC. Not bad, but it depends on what you want and need.

So using only one gift card game is hard to get it through? Really... so you wouldnt be saving that 75 dollars?

murtaxa 11-16-2012 03:06 PM

[QUOTE=airfreshjoe;54859746]how did u get this?


It is dell outlet. I decided not to buy it. I will release it from my cart for you if you want. Here is the link.

http://outlet.us.dell.com/ARBOnli...2&fid=9175

Otherwise it will disappear from my cart in 15 minutes.

fkfkguy 11-16-2012 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PerlAddict (Post 54858366)
Heh ... if you think so, then you don't know how to truly SlickDeal. ;)

From a friend I couldn't convince not to go the Dell route, delivered 11/2/12:



Tracking Number: XXXXXXXXXX
Carrier: FEDEX EXPRESS
Shipped On: 10/31/2012
Shipping Method: Next Business Day
Order Date: 10/26/2012
Dell Purchase ID: XXXXXXXXXXXXX
Order Number: XXXXXXXXXXXX
Customer Number:XXXXXXXXXXXXX

Item Sub Total $600.71
Item Ship Charge $0.00
Item Tax $49.60

Item Total $650.31

And that was with a with a $70 charge built in for "954-1820 *Premium Phone Support, Initial Year". Gonna see if maybe that can't be credited. Bringing total system cost down to $530.71 before tax.

THE deal my butt. =P

how did you get that deal? can you show me? I can give you free pizzas from papa johns in exchange

Quote:

Originally Posted by murtaxa (Post 54859316)

how did you get this i would buy the shit out of that

murtaxa 11-16-2012 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fkfkguy (Post 54859944)
how did you get that deal? can you show me? I can give you free pizzas from papa johns in exchange



how did you get this i would buy the shit out of that

I learned about dell outlet from slickdeals. Surprised you guys dont. They have the slickest deals, but mostly on refurb and scratch and dent. I ended up getting a dell xps 8500 with core i5 3450, 8 gb ram, 1 tb hdd, gtx 660 for 582 with tax instead of the alienware in the link. Just keep refreshing the page, good deals come and go

fkfkguy 11-16-2012 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by murtaxa (Post 54860050)
I learned about dell outlet from slickdeals. Surprised you guys dont. They have the slickest deals, but mostly on refurb and scratch and dent. I ended up getting a dell xps 8500 with core i5 3450, 8 gb ram, 1 tb hdd, gtx 660 for 582 with tax instead of the alienware in the link. Just keep refreshing the page, good deals come and go


do you know if you can use the $400 + $75 gift card deal to pay for this? saving 75 extra dollars sounds nice

YanksIn2009 11-16-2012 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by airfreshjoe (Post 54859746)
how did u get this?



So using only one gift card game is hard to get it through? Really... so you wouldnt be saving that 75 dollars?


Sure you would...it would be $75 off the 400 in the form of an egift card from Dell. You also pay with that $75 egift card so that leaves 699-400-75 = $224 that you need to put on a credit card (discover). 15% off that is about $34. So you save 75+34 = $109. It comes to about $5 cheaper, Using Discover also gets the purchase protection that a CC will give you. It is simply not worth the trouble unless you have a reason to believe Discover will not pay the 15%.

Using two gift cards works out better, but you have to order through online chat and deal with that mess and then have to either spend more to upgrade the PC or have to buy something else from Dell (which is generally overpriced) in the next 90 days. So it depends really on what you need and want.

PerlAddict 11-16-2012 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anhxeom (Post 54859096)
Most of the time they are answered without anyone even asking!

I don't read the pre-built computer threads often, so I don't doubt that.

Let's remember that the Built It Yourself discussion didn't start off with anyone coming in and saying, "Pshhha! I could build this myself way cheaper!" It started when someone said:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ps3Rules (Post 54826544)
This is a great deal. I doubt you can get this cheaper if you built your own. Awesome specs.

And then I said: "You'd be wrong. But okay deal for folks without the desire or inclination to build their own. Wouldn't think this is FP material, though." Which is true. Someone said they doubted you could build this cheaper if you built your own. Not that you could score a great deal. Not that it would be easier. That they doubted you can get this cheaper if you built your own.

After my response, the next reply was then:

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaxRider (Post 54854986)
if you think you can build your own cheaper with same spec please list all the component and price

So I did.

If you want a great system and can do it yourself, you know where to do your homework. If you don't have the time, inclination, or know-how to do it, then obviously Dell, HP, etc. exist for you, which is great. Although again, if you look at my previous posts, my buddy got this same system but with a 2TB drive (and an equivalent Nvidia GPU) for $600 barely two weeks ago, so I wouldn't call this a stellar deal. Maybe that one just slipped through the cracks here at the time.

No elitist "Build It Yourself!" stuff here. There was a someone doubted it could be done, I said it could, and then a challenge to put my money where my mouth is. So I obliged. I figured if you're gonna talk the talk, you'd better be able to back it up around here. Imagine how this place would be if every time someone shouted "Where's the proof?!" the other party actually responded with it.

Mcdrew88 11-16-2012 03:19 PM

Good specs, but do I want this or a new laptop? Using for programming, but nothing too visually intensive. Maybe some light gaming. How upgradeable is this? Will probably like to boot Windows 7 off a SSD and use the HDD inside here as storage.

dooster 11-16-2012 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by murtaxa (Post 54860050)
I learned about dell outlet from slickdeals. Surprised you guys dont. They have the slickest deals, but mostly on refurb and scratch and dent. I ended up getting a dell xps 8500 with core i5 3450, 8 gb ram, 1 tb hdd, gtx 660 for 582 with tax instead of the alienware in the link. Just keep refreshing the page, good deals come and go

He order an i5 ...this deal is for an i7, lets be clear and not lead others to believe you got same system for $6XX........lets stay on topic on the product

I just called in inquire about sweeten the deal, in the end the best the rep could do was 5% gift card to the final price of $754 , basically a $37 gift card......just FYi for those who intend on ordering one

ctsinc 11-16-2012 03:30 PM

Hmm, I got a laptop configured better than this... for less. I'm not sure how this has so many thumbs up. Most people here are aware they could build a system that is faster for a couple hundred bucks cheaper.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dooster (Post 54860534)
He order an i5 ...this deal is for an i7, lets be clear and not lead others to believe you got same system for $6XX........lets stay on topic on the product

I just called in inquire about sweeten the deal, in the end the best the rep could do was 5% gift card to the final price of $754 , basically a $37 gift card......just FYi for those who intend on ordering one

Do you know the difference between an i5 and an i7?

dooster 11-16-2012 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klogdog (Post 54854378)
also call into cancel after it ships. Tell them you are looking for a better deal. They are automatically authorized to get 10% off. They will try and low ball it at first. Suggest that $70 would satisfy you. They will say hold on and then authorize it.

rest assure I will cal after they ship item to be a true slicker!:eek:

Foreveryours 11-16-2012 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctsinc (Post 54860744)
Do you know the difference between an i5 and an i7?

:woot: i2 :woot:

airfreshjoe 11-16-2012 03:36 PM

Not sure if i should pull a trigger.... i would be paying 632 dollars with tax and everything..

still not too bad... its with free 2 day shipping and 4% cashback from fatwallet...

HMMMM... should i pull the trigger or wait..?

MaxRider 11-16-2012 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctsinc (Post 54860744)
Hmm, I got a laptop configured better than this... for less. I'm not sure how this has so many thumbs up. Most people here are aware they could build a system that is faster for a couple hundred bucks cheaper.



Do you know the difference between an i5 and an i7?

how do you get an 3rd gen i7 in laptop for less?
if you think you can build one better and cheaper then prove it

difference between i5 and i7?
you have to give the model number as well
because some i5 is dual core and not quad
in general i7 gives better performance than i5

i'm saying this again this is not a front page deal
but not a bad one

ctsinc 11-16-2012 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by murtaxa (Post 54860050)
I learned about dell outlet from slickdeals. Surprised you guys dont. They have the slickest deals, but mostly on refurb and scratch and dent. I ended up getting a dell xps 8500 with core i5 3450, 8 gb ram, 1 tb hdd, gtx 660 for 582 with tax instead of the alienware in the link. Just keep refreshing the page, good deals come and go

That's what I'm saying... and your system would absolutely CRUSH this one.

dooster 11-16-2012 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctsinc (Post 54860744)
Hmm, I got a laptop configured better than this... for less. I'm not sure how this has so many thumbs up. Most people here are aware they could build a system that is faster for a couple hundred bucks cheaper.



Do you know the difference between an i5 and an i7?


i7 has more cache and cores, i7 has 6 cores while i5 has 4.

I do alot of multitasking with Adobe softwares so those extra cores will certainly help

ctsinc 11-16-2012 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaxRider (Post 54861002)
how do you get an 3rd gen i7 in laptop for less?
if you think you can build one better and cheaper then prove it

Someone already did. Look a few posts up -- someone built a system with a 660 for less than $600.

Also, where do you think a 3rd gen i7 is ever going to get even REMOTELY taxed by this system? You'd better off putting that wasted money towards a REAL video card.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foreveryours (Post 54860930)
:woot: i2 :woot:

LOL fackin troll :) But you kind of inadvertently indicated the truth... the differences between the i5 and i7 are practically nonexistent when it comes to usability.

AGpennypacker 11-16-2012 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctsinc (Post 54861046)
That's what I'm saying... and your system would absolutely CRUSH this one.

well yeah if you oc to almost 4ghz. that's not really a fair comparison for a prebuilt system. for the record, i dont think this is a fp worthy deal. so-so, but not bad for someone who needs the cpu and doesnt want to waste time with building. also this has a 1 year warranty compared to the outlets 90 day.

gnuh 11-16-2012 03:45 PM

How is this one compare with the Asus - Essentio Desktop - i7-3770/8GB Memory/1TB Hard Drive? I got this Asus opened box for $550 with possibly 5% cash back from Chase, is that a good deal or worth the price? I'm sort of considering return it because of the BF coming up

http://slickdeals.net/f/5447898-Asus-Essentio-Desktop-i7-3770-8GB-Memory-1TB-Hard-Drive-550-tax

MaxRider 11-16-2012 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctsinc (Post 54861100)
Someone already did. Look a few posts up -- someone built a system with a 660 for less than $600.

Also, where do you think a 3rd gen i7 is ever going to get even REMOTELY taxed by this system? You'd better off putting that wasted money towards a REAL video card.



LOL fackin troll :) But you kind of inadvertently indicated the truth... the differences between the i5 and i7 are practically nonexistent when it comes to usability.

the $600 machine he built is without the OS and graphic card
add those up and that's about $700

ctsinc 11-16-2012 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dooster (Post 54861068)
i7 has more cache and cores, i7 has 6 cores while i5 has 4.

I do alot of multitasking with Adobe softwares so those extra cores will certainly help

GOOD! Now, you are a member of the 0.01% of people that will [possibly] make use of the scalability of the i7 processors. I hope you're talking about animation, though.....

for 99.99% of the population however, they will see absolutely zero performance improvement between an i5 and an i7. That's because 99.99% don't do the following tasks:

1. work with HUGE HUGE HUGE spreadsheets or engineering programs, that perform the same calculations thousands of times per second (i.e. use the additional cache)

2. work with high definition 3D modeling and/or animation (i.e. use additional cores)

In fact, if you're actually doing number 2, it's not very likely you're doing it at home -- more likely you're at work with a company-purchased system that not only has a beefy processor but also a good video card (unlike this garbage video card)

kudos to you, though. You answered a question that the HUUUUUUGE majority of people couldn't -- despite barfing out that an i7 is 'oh so much better' than an i5. For mainstream users in fact, a higher clock i5 is actually better than a lower clock i7, and with the same refresh rate between them, no difference will be experienced.

AGpennypacker 11-16-2012 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaxRider (Post 54861324)
the $600 machine he built is without the OS and graphic card
add those up and that's about $700

if i remember right i think he is IT, but i'm not sure what he's talking about in this thread. i would love to see him come up with a 3rd gen quad core mobile i7 and similar specd for less than this dell.

hotrod8008 11-16-2012 03:57 PM

How do you get the dell loyalty program discount?

ctsinc 11-16-2012 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaxRider (Post 54861324)
the $600 machine he built is without the OS and graphic card
add those up and that's about $700

No... what did you think a GTX660 was? a USB adapter? Maybe a cool name for a DVDROM? Oh, I got it -- you thought that meant a 660 watt power supply, right? No, it is in fact short for "Nvidia GTX 660", a video card that is about four times as fast as this one.

As far as OS is concerned -- big freaking deal! Windows licenses are transferable to other computers, so as long as this isn't his first computer purchase, he is fine. Linux is free, and if you want OSX, you're downloading an illegal copy that's been hacked anyway.

Still, if it's your first computer ever -- or if you're on WinXP and you want say Win7 for example, you can buy a legit copy for $40.

MaxRider 11-16-2012 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lambo47 (Post 54858122)
$70 - ASRock H77 Mobo http://www.newegg.com/Product/Pro...6813157303
$37.99 -Cooler Master TC101B Mid Tower ATX Case with 500W Power Supply http://www.frys.com/product/70899...IN_RSLT_PG
$39.99 - G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Pro...6820231428
$49.99 - Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200 RPM Hard Drive http://www.newegg.com/Product/Pro...6822148697
$299.99 - Intel Core i7-3770 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Pro...6819116502
$27.88 - GIGABYTE Bluetooth 4.0/Wi-Fi card http://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-Ex...etooth+pci
$18.99 - Sony Optiarc 24X DVD Burner http://www.newegg.com/Product/Pro...6827118067

Total: $545 without a Graphics Card
Everything has FS except the case and psu combo from frys, which you can just buy in store.

I tried but, I couldn't make a cheaper build for this cpu. With the gift cards you can get the Dell PC for about $550 (before taxes). I guess this is an alright deal, you basically get a free graphics card, a free OS, and dell's warranty. Also you dont have to build it yourself. Im still going to pass on it and make a i5 3570k build from components I buy on BF.

ctsinc
is this the one you're talking about? i don't see any graphic card

AGpennypacker 11-16-2012 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctsinc (Post 54861818)
No... what did you think a GTX660 was? a USB adapter? Maybe a cool name for a DVDROM? Oh, I got it -- you thought that meant a 660 watt power supply, right? No, it is in fact short for "Nvidia GTX 660", a video card that is about four times as fast as this one.

As far as OS is concerned -- big freaking deal! Windows licenses are transferable to other computers, so as long as this isn't his first computer purchase, he is fine. Linux is free, and if you want OSX, you're downloading an illegal copy that's been hacked anyway.

Still, if it's your first computer ever -- or if you're on WinXP and you want say Win7 for example, you can buy a legit copy for $40.

uh, he got that from s&d on dell....i thought you said build it yourself?

ctsinc 11-16-2012 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AGpennypacker (Post 54861240)
well yeah if you oc to almost 4ghz. that's not really a fair comparison for a prebuilt system. for the record, i dont think this is a fp worthy deal. so-so, but not bad for someone who needs the cpu and doesnt want to waste time with building. also this has a 1 year warranty compared to the outlets 90 day.

I guarantee you, and would put the price of the system up as a bet all day long. His i5 system vs this i7 system -- put any game in it and the cheaper i5 will DESTROY the i7.

The only time this system would be faster is in a calculations per second benchmark, which really means absolutely nothing in every day use. There are an incredibly few circumstances when an i7 outdoes an i5 -- and almost nobody uses their systems under those circumstances.

MaxRider 11-16-2012 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctsinc (Post 54861818)
No... what did you think a GTX660 was? a USB adapter? Maybe a cool name for a DVDROM? Oh, I got it -- you thought that meant a 660 watt power supply, right? No, it is in fact short for "Nvidia GTX 660", a video card that is about four times as fast as this one.

As far as OS is concerned -- big freaking deal! Windows licenses are transferable to other computers, so as long as this isn't his first computer purchase, he is fine. Linux is free, and if you want OSX, you're downloading an illegal copy that's been hacked anyway.

Still, if it's your first computer ever -- or if you're on WinXP and you want say Win7 for example, you can buy a legit copy for $40.

AGAIN then you are not compare the same thing if you are willing to downgrade the OS to win xp or win 7 or even linux
the question is: can you build one cheaper with the same/similar spec?
if you are willing to sacrifice an arm and a leg of course it's going to be cheaper
then you are not comparing the same thing
oh yea i can buy a cheaper car without 4 wheels

ctsinc 11-16-2012 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AGpennypacker (Post 54861932)
uh, he got that from s&d on dell....i thought you said build it yourself?

You don't think you could build a system like that yourself? Hah silly rabbit.

No you know what, talking sense into you fools is pointless. Please do go and blow your money on this. I also hear that if you buy a monster cable surge protector it will make the power supply last longer. Oh and be sure to buy a nice Bose audio setup. They're the best in the world.

MaxRider 11-16-2012 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AGpennypacker (Post 54861932)
uh, he got that from s&d on dell....i thought you said build it yourself?

oh that deal
that's from dell outlet
wait few more weeks for dell next outlet coupon
you can get a cheaper one too

ctsinc 11-16-2012 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaxRider (Post 54862038)
AGAIN then you are not compare the same thing if you are willing to downgrade the OS to win xp or win 7 or even linux
the question is: can you build one cheaper with the same/similar spec?
if you are willing to sacrifice an arm and a leg of course it's going to be cheaper
then you are not comparing the same thing
oh yea i can buy a cheaper car without 4 wheels

Oh okay you're one of those guys that thinks there's a difference between Windows 7 and Windows 8. Okay, so the cost would be $60 then. LOL

Yeah BTW I forgot to mention -- many people (read: the majority of those in the know) view Windows 8 as the downgrade...

AGpennypacker 11-16-2012 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctsinc (Post 54861944)
I guarantee you, and would put the price of the system up as a bet all day long. His i5 system vs this i7 system -- put any game in it and the cheaper i5 will DESTROY the i7.

The only time this system would be faster is in a calculations per second benchmark, which really means absolutely nothing in every day use. There are an incredibly few circumstances when an i7 outdoes an i5 -- and almost nobody uses their systems under those circumstances.

look, i've already said i dont think a lot of this deal, but it just depends on what you're doing. yes, if you play games his system will be better, if you are transcoding the 3770 will be better (unless you oc the i5.) not everyone plays games on their pc.

his system is great, but how many of them were there at that price?

anhxeom 11-16-2012 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dooster (Post 54861068)
i7 has more cache and cores, i7 has 6 cores while i5 has 4.

I do alot of multitasking with Adobe softwares so those extra cores will certainly help

Are you talking about the i7 3770 that's in this Dell? If you are, then that's 2 cores too many..

AGpennypacker 11-16-2012 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctsinc (Post 54862040)
You don't think you could build a system like that yourself? Hah silly rabbit.

No you know what, talking sense into you fools is pointless. Please do go and blow your money on this. I also hear that if you buy a monster cable surge protector it will make the power supply last longer. Oh and be sure to buy a nice Bose audio setup. They're the best in the world.

are you drinking?

MaxRider 11-16-2012 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctsinc (Post 54862128)
Oh okay you're one of those guys that thinks there's a difference between Windows 7 and Windows 8. Okay, so the cost would be $60 then. LOL

Yeah BTW I forgot to mention -- many people (read: the majority of those in the know) view Windows 8 as the downgrade...

then go build a system with 1st gen i5 running xp
that will save you $300 more
please don't say you can build a better one cheaper

ctsinc 11-16-2012 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AGpennypacker (Post 54862176)
look, i've already said i dont think a lot of this deal, but it just depends on what you're doing. yes, if you play games his system will be better, if you are transcoding the 3770 will be better (unless you oc the i5.) not everyone plays games on their pc.

his system is great, but how many of them were there at that price?

Yeah, 99.99% of people aren't transcoding all day long. Thanks for confirming what I said.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaxRider (Post 54862282)
then go build a system with 1st gen i5 running xp
that will save you $300 more
please don't say you can build a better one cheaper

LOL, you kids always think it's all about the CPU. tsk tsk.. some day you'll learn.c :shake:

Foreveryours 11-16-2012 04:14 PM

Why so angry?

hotrod8008 11-16-2012 04:14 PM

Are we done now, I would like to get back to this deal.

How do you get the dell loyalty program discount?

ctsinc 11-16-2012 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AGpennypacker (Post 54862274)
are you drinking?

Nah man, seriously this is a great deal -- and it's even better if you use a Monster Cable surge protector -- and replace your monitor cable and audio out cables with Monster Cable cables, too! And everyone knows that Bose is the best right?



(as far as you know)

YanksIn2009 11-16-2012 04:15 PM

This is really entertaining, but let's think about this logically leaving aside the challenge aspect of it.

Can you build a better PC...sure.
Can you build one with similar quality parts...sure.
Can you build one with similar quality parts for less...probably but only very marginally.
Is the machine (i7) overkill for most people...sure.

So on the one hand we have people arguing they can build a better and\or similarly equipped pc for cheaper and others are arguing this is overkill for most.

So I point out that if this is overkill for most and the machine can not be built for significantly less than what Dell is offering, then why would one spend how many man hours (4-8+) purchasing, procuring and then building that PC? If time is money and you use a modest $25 an hour cost for labor, you are talking 100-200 dollars in labor (yours) to build a machine that is essentially the same and overkill for most lol and sacrificing your spare time\family time for it. Why not just buy the PC turn it on and save yourself the trouble? It will be overkill for most still, there is no 4+ hours effort buying all the parts and putting them together. It has a guarantee to work and integrate properly. And you will not have overpaid for the the type of machine you got by any metric I can see.

AGpennypacker 11-16-2012 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctsinc (Post 54862366)
Nah man, seriously this is a great deal -- and it's even better if you use a Monster Cable surge protector -- and replace your monitor cable and audio out cables with Monster Cable cables, too! And everyone knows that Bose is the best right?



(as far as you know)

u wot m8? do you always make irrelevant strawman arguments?

Foreveryours 11-16-2012 04:19 PM

Every desktop system thread, these guys come in and tell us how we're stupid for buying this when they can build it for cheaper and better. Here's a challenge: you build it and support it for 3 years and we'll buy it from you.

anhxeom 11-16-2012 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PerlAddict (Post 54860170)
I don't read the pre-built computer threads often, so I don't doubt that.

Let's remember that the Built It Yourself discussion didn't start off with anyone coming in and saying, "Pshhha! I could build this myself way cheaper!" It started when someone said:



And then I said: "You'd be wrong. But okay deal for folks without the desire or inclination to build their own. Wouldn't think this is FP material, though." Which is true. Someone said they doubted you could build this cheaper if you built your own. Not that you could score a great deal. Not that it would be easier. That they doubted you can get this cheaper if you built your own.

After my response, the next reply was then:



So I did.

If you want a great system and can do it yourself, you know where to do your homework. If you don't have the time, inclination, or know-how to do it, then obviously Dell, HP, etc. exist for you, which is great. Although again, if you look at my previous posts, my buddy got this same system but with a 2TB drive (and an equivalent Nvidia GPU) for $600 barely two weeks ago, so I wouldn't call this a stellar deal. Maybe that one just slipped through the cracks here at the time.

No elitist "Build It Yourself!" stuff here. There was a someone doubted it could be done, I said it could, and then a challenge to put my money where my mouth is. So I obliged. I figured if you're gonna talk the talk, you'd better be able to back it up around here. Imagine how this place would be if every time someone shouted "Where's the proof?!" the other party actually responded with it.

I wasn't trying to say that you started the "I can build it for cheaper" posts, someone already did that on page 4. What I was just replying to is your comment "Since comments like this so often go unanswered ..... "

Because most of the time in threads like this, they ARE answered without anyone asking. But in this case, someone did ask you. So we appreciate that you patiently waited for someone to ask before answering :)

hotrod8008 11-16-2012 04:26 PM

^^^^I'm asking a question. I want to buy this, but how do I apply this discount:
And if you use the free Dell Advantage program, you get free two day shipping and 5% back in a promo gift card (approximately $35 for this computer).http://www.dell.com/us/eep/p/d/ca.../advantage

MaxRider 11-16-2012 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anhxeom (Post 54862636)
I wasn't trying to say that you started the "I can build it for cheaper" posts, someone already did that on page 4. What I was just replying to is your comment "Since comments like this so often go unanswered ..... "

Because most of the time in threads like this, they ARE answered without anyone asking. But in this case, someone did ask you. So we appreciate that you patiently waited for someone to ask before answering :)

i saw that, but he didn't have the full spec of the system his friend bought

Quote:

Originally Posted by hotrod8008 (Post 54862722)
^^^^I'm asking a question. I want to buy this, but how do I apply this discount:
And if you use the free Dell Advantage program, you get free two day shipping and 5% back in a promo gift card (approximately $35 for this computer).http://www.dell.com/us/eep/p/d/ca.../advantage

click on the link that say "register now" and fill out all the information?

hotrod8008 11-16-2012 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaxRider (Post 54862976)

click on the link that say "register now" and fill out all the information?

I did that, went through check out, even entered my cc info, never saw the discount, never saw free 2 day shipping.

MaxRider 11-16-2012 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hotrod8008 (Post 54863060)
I did that, went through check out, even entered my cc info, never saw the discount, never saw free 2 day shipping.

i don't know about dell loyalty program
my company has dell mpp program and i always use that instead
did you get a login account and password?
i think you have to login
https://app.dell.com/consumer/enr.../login.cfm

ctsinc 11-16-2012 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaxRider (Post 54862282)
then go build a system with 1st gen i5 running xp
that will save you $300 more
please don't say you can build a better one cheaper

Intel Core i7 3820, 16GB 1600Mhz RAM, 850W PSU - $385
slickdeals.net/f/5412242-Intel-Core-i7-3820-Patriot-DDR3-16GB-1866MHz-Memory-NZXT-Hale-82-850Watt-PSU-Kit-385AR-sh-avail-online

Decent ATX case - $30
slickdeals.net/f/5513440-RAIDMAX-Seiran-ATX-902WB-Black-Steel-Plastic-ATX-Mid-Tower-Computer-Case-30-AR-and-FREE-SHIPPING

2TB 7200RPM HDD - $90
slickdeals.net/f/5495304-Seagate-Barracuda-2TB-ST2000DM001-Desktop-3-5-HDD-89-99-Amazon

Nvidia GTX 650 - $85
slickdeals.net/f/5465758-EVGA-GeForce-GTX-650-1GB-NVidia-Video-Card-85AR-sh-Frys

DVDRW - $20
anywhere online

Windows 8 - $60
dealscube.com/detail.asp?id=20810&n=Microsoft-Windows-8-Pro#page=description


I put some effort into getting components similar to this, but the best I could do was get components that are better than this... so the end result is this proposal yields a system that's much better. The cost is $670. If I actually put more than 10% effort, I'm pretty sure I could find components that more accurately match this system, and end up saving another $100.

Do you want something to drink while you're eating your words?

GElite 11-16-2012 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AGpennypacker (Post 54862176)
look, i've already said i dont think a lot of this deal, but it just depends on what you're doing. yes, if you play games his system will be better, if you are transcoding the 3770 will be better (unless you oc the i5.) not everyone plays games on their pc.

his system is great, but how many of them were there at that price?

His system SUCKS at gaming. Yes it's a slightly better card than the 7570. But it's totally irrelevant. Both of these cards are NOT GAMING CARDS. Also he's going to have to buy a decent quality case unless he doesn't care about all the problems of cheap cases. So that adds to the cost way above $699.99. Again with the Dell, your getting mass consumer grade quality. - This is good.

The i7 3770 just makes this a Lamborghini of a daily driver system. If your going to be gaming you should be picking up a Xbox 360.

This is a GREAT deal. I'm not going to keep restating my points anymore.

ctsinc 11-16-2012 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foreveryours (Post 54862522)
Every desktop system thread, these guys come in and tell us how we're stupid for buying this when they can build it for cheaper and better. Here's a challenge: you build it and support it for 3 years and we'll buy it from you.

If the level of "support" you're expecting is based on what you'll get from Dell... hell I'll give you 5 years.

MaxRider 11-16-2012 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctsinc (Post 54863186)
Intel Core i7 3820, 16GB 1600Mhz RAM, 850W PSU - $385
slickdeals.net/f/5412242-Intel-Core-i7-3820-Patriot-DDR3-16GB-1866MHz-Memory-NZXT-Hale-82-850Watt-PSU-Kit-385AR-sh-avail-online

Decent ATX case - $30
slickdeals.net/f/5513440-RAIDMAX-Seiran-ATX-902WB-Black-Steel-Plastic-ATX-Mid-Tower-Computer-Case-30-AR-and-FREE-SHIPPING

2TB 7200RPM HDD - $90
slickdeals.net/f/5495304-Seagate-Barracuda-2TB-ST2000DM001-Desktop-3-5-HDD-89-99-Amazon

Nvidia GTX 650 - $85
slickdeals.net/f/5465758-EVGA-GeForce-GTX-650-1GB-NVidia-Video-Card-85AR-sh-Frys

DVDRW - $20
anywhere online

Windows 8 - $60
dealscube.com/detail.asp?id=20810&n=Microsoft-Windows-8-Pro#page=description


I put some effort into getting components similar to this, but the best I could do was get components that are better than this... so the end result is this proposal yields a system that's much better. The cost is $670. If I actually put more than 10% effort, I'm pretty sure I could find components that more accurately match this system, and end up saving another $100.

Do you want something to drink while you're eating your words?

you're missing a motherboard and psu

ctsinc 11-16-2012 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anhxeom (Post 54862256)
Are you talking about the i7 3770 that's in this Dell? If you are, then that's 2 cores too many..

I was thinking the same thing, but I figured it was pointless to mention that little caveat. I was impressed that he actually knew the minor differences between i5 and i7.

GElite 11-16-2012 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AGpennypacker (Post 54862176)
look, i've already said i dont think a lot of this deal, but it just depends on what you're doing. yes, if you play games his system will be better, if you are transcoding the 3770 will be better (unless you oc the i5.) not everyone plays games on their pc.

his system is great, but how many of them were there at that price?

His system SUCKS at gaming. Yes it's a slightly better card than the 7570. But it's totally irrelevant. Both of these cards are NOT GAMING CARDS. Also he's going to have to buy a decent quality case unless he doesn't care about all the problems of cheap cases. So that adds to the cost way above $699.99. Again with the Dell, your getting mass consumer grade quality. - This is good.

The i7 3770 just makes this a Lamborghini of a daily driver system. If your going to be gaming you should be picking up a Xbox 360.

This is a GREAT deal. I'm not going to keep restating my points anymore.

hotrod8008 11-16-2012 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaxRider (Post 54863180)
i don't know about dell loyalty program
my company has dell mpp program and i always use that instead
did you get a login account and password?
i think you have to login
https://app.dell.com/consumer/enr.../login.cfm

I was logged in, I'm just not seeing their logo at any point during check out, nor am I seeing the discount. I would think someone who bought this PC could chime in.

Ps3Rules 11-16-2012 04:52 PM

All you "build it yourself" guys are posting links to either 1) expired/sold out deals 2) after rebate pricing 3)different components (crappy cases with less features) 4) not including shipping for those items that don't ship free. Ok, continue on...

theGr81 11-16-2012 04:57 PM

this is a good deal especially if you need a computer now...i built the computer im on and i love it but ive spend a lot of time on it and to some people time is money

clearly some people have issues with thinking that goes against theres...

GElite 11-16-2012 04:58 PM

BTW I know what I'm talking about since I'm in the world of IT. I'm going to get my CCNA for networking and have been operating my own PC repair business since 2006.

GElite 11-16-2012 05:04 PM

Yea I could prob get a 4GB RAM i3 system and it would be just fine. I value technology and want to buy more than I necessarily need.

rhondphi 11-16-2012 05:04 PM

my XPS has been great so far. dont use it for gaming, but for normal stuff including photoshop im fine.

dooster 11-16-2012 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hotrod8008 (Post 54862722)
^^^^I'm asking a question. I want to buy this, but how do I apply this discount:
And if you use the free Dell Advantage program, you get free two day shipping and 5% back in a promo gift card (approximately $35 for this computer).http://www.dell.com/us/eep/p/d/ca.../advantage

I believe all you need is a EDU email and tell them you a student, also do hangle them on a better offer and they give kick you down a 5% gift card for you purchase and future purchase as well

GElite 11-16-2012 05:23 PM

It's actually pretty easy to fake being a student. They never even asked me to verify.

GElite 11-16-2012 05:29 PM

But it's still a great deal at $699.99.

tigre99 11-16-2012 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dooster (Post 54864234)
I believe all you need is a EDU email and tell them you a student, also do hangle them on a better offer and they give kick you down a 5% gift card for you purchase and future purchase as well

You do not need an EDU email to join the Dell Advantage program.

dgstan 11-16-2012 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GElite (Post 54864716)
But it's still a great deal at $699.99.

You keep saying that, but this is not that great of a deal. I picked up this exact system a couple months ago from the Outlet for $540+tax (let's see some blowhard build their own for that price).

Everyone should hold their horses. Dell will have some nice coupons coming up shortly.

It's a nice unit, but it's been seen for $700 quite often.

wearepsu 11-16-2012 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dgstan (Post 54868234)
Everyone should hold their horses. Dell will have some nice coupons coming up shortly.

I hope so. I half bought this... (Bought the gift card to get the $75 credit). And before I bought it, I'm thinking hard. I guess I'm locked in to buying from Dell. But, is this the deal..
And, yes, these specs are ideal for me (Although I will bump it to 16GB). I use my computer 90% of the time for Photoshop.

GElite 11-16-2012 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dgstan (Post 54868234)
You keep saying that, but this is not that great of a deal. I picked up this exact system a couple months ago from the Outlet for $540+tax (let's see some blowhard build their own for that price).

Everyone should hold their horses. Dell will have some nice coupons coming up shortly.

It's a nice unit, but it's been seen for $700 quite often.

I disagree. They won't sell all this for $540.

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Originally Posted by wearepsu (Post 54868602)
I hope so. I half bought this... (Bought the gift card to get the $75 credit). And before I bought it, I'm thinking hard. I guess I'm locked in to buying from Dell. But, is this the deal..
And, yes, these specs are ideal for me (Although I will bump it to 16GB). I use my computer 90% of the time for Photoshop.

8GB of RAM will be more than enough for photoshop.


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