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dbowholtz 11-19-2012 09:37 AM

MSI 560 GTX TI 448 Cores $119 + Shipping AR
 
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Pro...6814127615

I think shipping is like $8

brisar 11-19-2012 09:37 AM

MSI Twin Frozr III GeForce GTX 560 Ti 448 Core 1280MB GDDR5 PCI Express Video Card $128 after $100 Rebate + Free Shipping
 
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Newegg.com has MSI Twin Frozr III GeForce GTX 560 Ti 448 Core 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express Video Card for $219.99 - $100 rebate = $119.99. Shipping is $7.87. Thanks dbowholtz

Price Research: Our research indicates that the MSI Twin Frozr III GeForce GTX 560 Ti 448 Core 1280MB GDDR5 PCI Express Video Card is $85 lower (40% savings) than the next best available price from a reputable merchant with prices ranging from $213 (after rebate). - brisar

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OOS, whew!

hzh003 11-19-2012 09:47 AM

100 MIR? holy XXXX

psyctto 11-19-2012 09:50 AM

wow...
thats a great deal.

i've done 100$ rebates with MSI before, without issue.

NajibH 11-19-2012 09:57 AM

dam, $100 bucks rebate... thats a bit too much for me :(

sharkbait689 11-19-2012 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by psyctto (Post 54945348)
wow...
thats a great deal.

i've done 100$ rebates with MSI before, without issue.

Seems to have pretty good reviews. Anyone had experience with this model/brand before? Also, would you recommend waiting until black friday/CM? Im not sure how often video cards go on sale.

fyu 11-19-2012 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharkbait689 (Post 54945618)
Seems to have pretty good reviews. Anyone had experience with this model/brand before? Also, would you recommend waiting until black friday/CM? Im not sure how often video cards go on sale.

i have this card. one of the fans rattles a little when it's maxed.

robinski_ 11-19-2012 09:59 AM

DAT mir

vip00 11-19-2012 10:01 AM

Considering the going price for this card is around $200 elsewhere (eg Amazon [amazon.com]) as is the price for other 560 Ti 448 cards... (eg Newegg [newegg.com], Amazon [amazon.com]) I wouldn't expect a better price anytime soon.

Also for anyone who's done the $400 rebate with Canon, $100 shouldn't be much of a nailbiter...

I'm surprised that people are so put off by the MIR. Previous FP deal was $250 - $50... (http://slickdeals.net/permadeal/7...11-pc-game)

NajibH 11-19-2012 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharkbait689 (Post 54945618)
Seems to have pretty good reviews. Anyone had experience with this model/brand before? Also, would you recommend waiting until black friday/CM? Im not sure how often video cards go on sale.

I built my gfs pc with this video card, is pretty fast and silent. its been almost a year since shes been using it and not a single problem so far.

I would totally buy this card if it wasent of the $100 rebate...

zonfar 11-19-2012 10:09 AM

This is a pretty good deal, but says the rebate expires today, does that mean I have to buy it today, or I just need to print out the rebate today? I'm expecting there to be some sort of deal on BF and feel if I buy it now I might regret it in a few days :P

Cherub 11-19-2012 10:11 AM

I just added an FAR antivirus program to get the total over $250 and used my Newegg Preferred Account for 6 months without interest or payment. That way, if there is any problem with the rebate, I will know it well before the time comes to pay, and Newegg is the creditor, which helps if there is a dispute. If the rebate comes without any issues, I just put it toward paying the balance.

blk00civicsi 11-19-2012 10:11 AM

Want to get another one for sli, but haven't received my $30 rebate from my last order. Not sure I feel comfortable floating $100 out there.

EvaUnitAammar 11-19-2012 10:15 AM

lol @ 100 MIR.

When I saw this I had to give it a second look. Crazy good deal if it goes through.

Thumbs Up.

hzh003 11-19-2012 10:17 AM

wth, grabbed one.

tonyftw 11-19-2012 10:18 AM

Dat $100 MIR :drool:

Must resist.

impaler13355 11-19-2012 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fyu (Post 54945654)
i have this card. one of the fans rattles a little when it's maxed.

Same with mine sent it in for warranty work last week.

vip00 11-19-2012 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zonfar (Post 54946194)
This is a pretty good deal, but says the rebate expires today, does that mean I have to buy it today, or I just need to print out the rebate today? I'm expecting there to be some sort of deal on BF and feel if I buy it now I might regret it in a few days :P

Rebates go by the date on the receipt, so you would have to buy today

syn0s 11-19-2012 10:25 AM

Slickdeals having it's effect on me.. I have no need for this, but for some forsaken reason I want to buy it..

littlehamsterz 11-19-2012 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by impaler13355 (Post 54946686)
Same with mine sent it in for warranty work last week.

What wattage is the PSU you guys are using? I'm reading the reviews and it looks like this card is a serious power hog with people having issues with the gpu when they're using 650 watts or so. One reviewer says you need at least 800 watts to prevent problems.

syn0s 11-19-2012 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by impaler13355 (Post 54946686)
Same with mine sent it in for warranty work last week.

Interesting.. I too already have an MSI 560 Ti (non 448 core) and one of the fans has been rattling/going out.. might be a trend there. I think there's a 3 year warranty based on serial number on these though.

chuckywang 11-19-2012 10:27 AM

Does nVidia graphic cards play nice with AMD systems?

kudosmog 11-19-2012 10:29 AM

I've received every rebate I've ever submitted to MSI, and they usually don't even take that long. No problem doing the 100 rebate here. Thanks for the post

APhamX 11-19-2012 10:30 AM

Want.. to get two.. upgrade from 6950.. (has two households)

sonuzed 11-19-2012 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fyu (Post 54945654)
i have this card. one of the fans rattles a little when it's maxed.

Can I ask what PSU are you using? Is it like above 650W?
Thanks.

APhamX 11-19-2012 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuckywang (Post 54946860)
Does nVidia graphic cards play nice with AMD systems?

AMD as in just AMD cpu and board? That's perfectly fine.

flashfir 11-19-2012 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuckywang (Post 54946860)
Does nVidia graphic cards play nice with AMD systems?

Really?

Yes. That is all I'll say. :wave:

NajibH 11-19-2012 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kudosmog (Post 54946924)
I've received every rebate I've ever submitted to MSI, and they usually don't even take that long. No problem doing the 100 rebate here. Thanks for the post

yah, i've done 2 rebates with them and received both in less than 3 weeks. But $100 is too big of a gamble for me :(

murtaxa 11-19-2012 10:32 AM

Holy MIR, Batman!

dingle19 11-19-2012 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by littlehamsterz (Post 54946830)
What wattage is the PSU you guys are using? I'm reading the reviews and it looks like this card is a serious power hog with people having issues with the gpu when they're using 650 watts or so. One reviewer says you need at least 800 watts to prevent problems.

when you overlock these things, they are powerhogs, but you can run these in SLI with a good 750w PSU. it's mostly watching out for your voltages, not your wattage. if you're supplying an OC'd CPU with extra voltage, you may run into problems with lower-end PSU's

tonyftw 11-19-2012 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuckywang (Post 54946860)
Does nVidia graphic cards play nice with AMD systems?

It should. Plenty of people with amd cpu's, have an nvidia gpu.

whirly 11-19-2012 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by APhamX (Post 54946962)
Want.. to get two.. upgrade from 6950.. (has two households)

not really an upgrade except for getting physx..

http://www.tomshardware.com/revie...107-7.html

I would rather unlock those 6950s to 6970s.. (if you can)

vip00 11-19-2012 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by littlehamsterz (Post 54946830)
What wattage is the PSU you guys are using? I'm reading the reviews and it looks like this card is a serious power hog with people having issues with the gpu when they're using 650 watts or so. One reviewer says you need at least 800 watts to prevent problems.

That's highly suspect. The card pulls ~200W max from what I've seen and should be perfectly fine with 550W.
Check out this article here for some in-depth testing: http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pa...iew,7.html
For similar info on a 570 (same PCB, 1 extra core) take a look here: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/306

OwaN 11-19-2012 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by littlehamsterz (Post 54946830)
What wattage is the PSU you guys are using? I'm reading the reviews and it looks like this card is a serious power hog with people having issues with the gpu when they're using 650 watts or so. One reviewer says you need at least 800 watts to prevent problems.

LOL! Don't worry about that. I ran an X58 system with a 7970 in it off a 430W Corsair builder's series PSU when my main one crapped out (not recommended long term obviously). There would be no issues with a decent 650w power supply and this card. 800W would be massive overkill and only necessary if you were seriously considering adding a second card for SLI
Quote:

Originally Posted by sonuzed (Post 54946968)
Can I ask what PSU are you using? Is it like above 650W?
Thanks.

The PSU wouldn't have any impact on the fan rattling, but in case that wasn't why you were asking, a quality 650w psu like a corsair TX would be plenty for a system built around this card.
Quote:

Originally Posted by chuckywang (Post 54946860)
Does nVidia graphic cards play nice with AMD systems?

Yes, nV cards can be used in AMD CPU based systems.


I had to pick my jaw up off the desk when I saw the price, but 100$ MIR, esp one thats a card and not a check, is just way too much money for me to entrust into the all-too-often shady world of tech-company MIRs

hemoglobin 11-19-2012 10:38 AM

sooo tempting, already own a Galaxy 560 448, have no need for another, but price is crazy

kyriostrife 11-19-2012 10:40 AM

Very tempting. But now that I have a 2560x1440 monitor I'll have to hold out for something better. Price is tempting though.

senormoll 11-19-2012 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OwaN (Post 54947204)
I had to pick my jaw up off the desk when I saw the price, but 100$ MIR, esp one thats a card and not a check, is just way too much money for me to entrust into the all-too-often shady world of tech-company MIRs


For $100, you'd be smart to spend the $2 and use Signature Confirmation.

wolverine88 11-19-2012 10:41 AM

Is this one better?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Pro...6814133381

$10 extra but less MIR.

hemoglobin 11-19-2012 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolverine88 (Post 54947454)
Is this one better?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Pro...6814133381

$10 extra but less MIR.


no, that's not the 448 core version, much weaker than this

Tweak155 11-19-2012 10:45 AM

This is an absolute excellent deal. This will handle most games at full details with the right system. I got mine a few months back for $160 and I thought that was amazing.

If I hadn't just bought this, I'd buy it wihout second thought.

dronewolf 11-19-2012 10:49 AM

Would I be ok if I used this with a 550W antec PSU? Im building a pc and thats all I have so far is the PSU and this looks like a killer deal to snag up. I plan to get a intel mobo and cpu to match.

tonyftw 11-19-2012 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dronewolf (Post 54947756)
Would I be ok if I used this with a 550W antec PSU? Im building a pc and thats all I have so far is the PSU and this looks like a killer deal to snag up. I plan to get a intel mobo and cpu to match.

Yes, it should work fine.

kingkong00 11-19-2012 10:51 AM

Is this card an upgrade for my ATI 6870?
Thanks.

steven88 11-19-2012 10:51 AM

4myrebate is a trustworthy company....you should have no worries receiving your rebate, as long as you fill it out correctly

Tweak155 11-19-2012 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingkong00 (Post 54947836)
Is this card an upgrade for my ATI 6870?
Thanks.

Is it better? Yes. Is it worth upgrading to? Not a chance. The 6870 is a solid card and is very close to the 560ti 448 core.

sr71 11-19-2012 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonuzed (Post 54946968)
Can I ask what PSU are you using? Is it like above 650W?
Thanks.

You can run this with even a 500W PSU, assuming you're not using SLI, even with a125W CPU you'd still be be ok with HDD, memory and optical.

I have done that with the GTX 570, P.S. great find OP - tempted

hemoglobin 11-19-2012 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tweak155 (Post 54947892)
Is it better? Yes. Is it worth upgrading to? Not a chance. The 6870 is a solid card and is very close to the 560ti 448 core.

what are you smoking, the 560 448 is on par with a 6950, which totally destroy the 6870

ToHellWithUGA 11-19-2012 10:56 AM

Is this a decent upgrade from a Radeon HD 5850?

massguy01013 11-19-2012 10:57 AM

I'm in for one, thanks OP.

Nate650 11-19-2012 10:59 AM

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 benchmarks here [guru3d.com]. Seems to be about a 50% performance boost from the GTX 460 (which I am currently running in SLI).

swunder 11-19-2012 10:59 AM

Would get this to SLI with my current, but 1.25GB is just not enough memory to warrant SLI.

At 19x12 current and upcoming games (farcry 3, crysis 3) that can use the power will definitely want more memory :(

vip00 11-19-2012 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dronewolf (Post 54947756)
Would I be ok if I used this with a 550W antec PSU? Im building a pc and thats all I have so far is the PSU and this looks like a killer deal to snag up. I plan to get a intel mobo and cpu to match.

Good start! I'm rebuilding my system from scratch, ended up picking up an i5-2500k for $99, a decent deal on MB + RAM for $120, and now the video card for $120 AR. I'm carrying over my Antec Three Hundred case and 550W OCZ power supply from my previous build.

Not a bad setup for <$350 imo.

Technocian 11-19-2012 11:00 AM

Last gen card, but still will perform well and max most games.

For those of you who want more power efficiency and are willing to pay about $25 more without MIR, you can get the 1GB version of the 7850 for about 150-160.

kingkong00 11-19-2012 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tweak155 (Post 54947892)
Is it better? Yes. Is it worth upgrading to? Not a chance. The 6870 is a solid card and is very close to the 560ti 448 core.

Quote:

Originally Posted by hemoglobin (Post 54947972)
what are you smoking, the 560 448 is on par with a 6950, which totally destroy the 6870

Thanks and Thanks
If going from my xfx 6870 to this card will cost around $10-$20, is it worth it?
Thanks.

hemoglobin 11-19-2012 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingkong00 (Post 54948288)
Thanks and Thanks
If going from my xfx 6870 to this card will cost around $10-$20, is it worth it?
Thanks.

totally worth it, the performance increase will be significant

dronewolf 11-19-2012 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vip00 (Post 54948242)
Good start! I'm rebuilding my system from scratch, ended up picking up an i5-2500k for $99, a decent deal on MB + RAM for $120, and now the video card for $120 AR. I'm carrying over my Antec Three Hundred case and 550W OCZ power supply from my previous build.

Not a bad setup for <$350 imo.

Thanks for confirming guys! Yep, I get irritated every time I see that cpu deal on hot deals because I saw it early but there are no microcenters anywhere around here! Glad to know the PSU will work. Confirming order as we "speak"

Simca 11-19-2012 11:04 AM

If there is anything better than this on BF or CM, it will be sold out so fast you can't even blink, so I'm in for one.

Thanks a ton OP, repped and purchased.

roll_right 11-19-2012 11:04 AM

Trying to decide whether I want to upgrade from a 460...I'm not sure if my first gen i3 will bottleneck it.

vip00 11-19-2012 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingkong00 (Post 54947836)
Is this card an upgrade for my ATI 6870?
Thanks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tweak155 (Post 54947892)
Is it better? Yes. Is it worth upgrading to? Not a chance. The 6870 is a solid card and is very close to the 560ti 448 core.

Quote:

Originally Posted by hemoglobin (Post 54947972)
what are you smoking, the 560 448 is on par with a 6950, which totally destroy the 6870

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingkong00 (Post 54948288)
Thanks and Thanks
If going from my xfx 6870 to this card will cost around $10-$20, is it worth it?
Thanks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by hemoglobin (Post 54948366)
totally worth it, the performance increase will be significant

You can find straightforward comparisons for games between the two here: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Pr...499?vs=290

It looks like the stock 560 Ti 448 gets between 10% and 50% better FPS depending on the game, which is definitely worth the $10-$20 for me :)

Keep in mind that the card in this thread is OC out of the box, so should give you better scores by another 5-10%

TH0R 11-19-2012 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hemoglobin (Post 54947972)
what are you smoking, the 560 448 is on par with a 6950, which totally destroy the 6870

Correct - The 560 TI 448 1.2 GB performs on par with the 6950 1 GB. The 6950 2 GB performs better in some scenarios at higher resolutions.

Incorrect - The 6950 2 GB does not "totally destroy" the 6870 1 GB, but it is indeed a faster card, sitting 1 tier higher on the THGCH chart.

This would be an amazing deal, but $100 is just too much of a rebate IMO. :nod:

steven88 11-19-2012 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swunder (Post 54948210)
Would get this to SLI with my current, but 1.25GB is just not enough memory to warrant SLI.

At 19x12 current and upcoming games (farcry 3, crysis 3) that can use the power will definitely want more memory :(

true that...1.5gb is probably the minimum most should go these days when it comes to VRAM...although you can get away with 1.25gb as long as you turn down certain settings....but yeah, might want to hold off on SLI....holiday sales might have a sweet deal on a 660Ti with 2gb of VRAM....which would be awesome at 1920x1200

kendogg 11-19-2012 11:07 AM

is this a worthy upgrade from a radeon hd 4680 ?

steven88 11-19-2012 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kendogg (Post 54948602)
is this a worthy upgrade from a radeon hd 4680 ?

I would say a huge upgrade

hemoglobin 11-19-2012 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TH0R (Post 54948496)
Correct - The 560 TI 448 1.2 GB performs on par with the 6950 1 GB. The 6950 2 GB performs better in some scenarios at higher resolutions.

Incorrect - The 6950 2 GB does not "totally destroy" the 6870 1 GB, but it is indeed a faster card, sitting 1 tier higher on the THGCH chart.

This would be an amazing deal, but $100 is just too much of a rebate IMO. :nod:

ok, may be 6950 may not totally destroy 6870, but to say that 560 448 is close to 6870 is ridiculous


4myreabate is very reliable, get my card within 3 weeks, no worry

TH0R 11-19-2012 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roll_right (Post 54948478)
Trying to decide whether I want to upgrade from a 460...I'm not sure if my first gen i3 will bottleneck it.

I got a GTX 460 for like $70 recently, new. You may want to do the same and use SLI.
It would be your best bet for upgrading, if your motherboard supports SLI and your power supply has enough juice.

domonas 11-19-2012 11:09 AM

For those asking "is my card better/worse", check this out

http://www.tomshardware.com/revie...107-7.html

TH0R 11-19-2012 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hemoglobin (Post 54948652)
ok, may be 6950 may not totally destroy 6870, but to say that 560 448 is close to 6870 is ridiculous

Incorrect. They are indeed close, since they are only 1 tier apart. A significant upgrade is 3 tiers difference.
At 2 tiers difference, it would probably be ridiculous to say that 2 cards are close.

jonac13 11-19-2012 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by littlehamsterz (Post 54946830)
What wattage is the PSU you guys are using? I'm reading the reviews and it looks like this card is a serious power hog with people having issues with the gpu when they're using 650 watts or so. One reviewer says you need at least 800 watts to prevent problems.

Yeah, I had issues with mine at 650w. Swapped out an for older but higher quality 750w and it worked just fine.

Edit: For what it's worth (and to combat the other comments in this thread dubious of the power needs of this card), that was driving an Phenom II 955, 8GB RAM, two 7200rpm HDDs, one SSD, and a few fans. I was doubtful that it was the video card too, so I tried upgrading to a more power conservative Ivy Bridge CPU and taking out an HDD, but it ended up being the GPU. I was probably just dealing with a kinda crappy PSU, but I would give this card plenty of overhead to be safe.

QuickStriker 11-19-2012 11:12 AM

So I got a 4850 right now.... will this card blow my 4850 like no tomorrow, through the roof, under the sea, over and sideways into a whole new world?

TH0R 11-19-2012 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QuickStriker (Post 54948852)
So I got a 4850 right now.... will this card blow my 4850 like no tomorrow, through the roof, under the sea, over and sideways into a whole new world?

and then some...

4 tiers difference between those 2 cards - HUGE!
This card would not "blow" the 4850, as technology is not yet advanced enough for that type of scenario to exist for most people.
However, it would blow it away without even lifting a finger.

Assgrabber2 11-19-2012 11:12 AM

The price is kinda hard to pass.......would be a good upgrade from my ATI HD 2600 XT
Damn!!!!.....I have really shitty old card!!!!!!

Tweak155 11-19-2012 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hemoglobin (Post 54948652)
ok, may be 6950 may not totally destroy 6870, but to say that 560 448 is close to 6870 is ridiculous


4myreabate is very reliable, get my card within 3 weeks, no worry

I said the 6870 is close to the 560 ti 448.

For $10 or $20, sure I'd consider upgrading. But I take into consideration the time and effort needed, it isn't usually a straight $20 trade off.

To each their own, though. I doubt you'll find many games where the 560ti 448 will give you an extremely noticeable better experience than the 6870.

For what it's worth, I own both these cards and currently use both in 2 different systems. So I'm not just going from benchmarks and reviews.

justsomeguy5 11-19-2012 11:15 AM

I'd highly recommend people stay away from this card and MSI in general. I bought this video card 6 months ago, it was dead in 2 months. First RMA'd card worked for 2 weeks before the same thing happened again,. and the third card only lasted 5 days before it crapped out as well. I'm pretty much SOL now and I'm done going back and forth with MSI regarding it, but I hope others will really think long and hard before pulling the trigger on this card.

kingkong00 11-19-2012 11:16 AM

Ok, Ordered 1. Thanks guys.
Remember the cash back sites

Tweak155 11-19-2012 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kendogg (Post 54948602)
is this a worthy upgrade from a radeon hd 4680 ?

This is an OMG YES upgrade.

randomsmash 11-19-2012 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justsomeguy5 (Post 54948960)
I'd highly recommend people stay away from this card and MSI in general. I bought this video card 6 months ago, it was dead in 2 months. First RMA'd card worked for 2 weeks before the same thing happened again,. and the third card only lasted 5 days before it crapped out as well. I'm pretty much SOL now and I'm done going back and forth with MSI regarding it, but I hope others will really think long and hard before pulling the trigger on this card.

I have three of them, and another friend has two. All five have been running perfectly for almost a year.

Go ahead and buy 'em, guys.

TH0R 11-19-2012 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justsomeguy5 (Post 54948960)
I'd highly recommend people stay away from this card and MSI in general. I bought this video card 6 months ago, it was dead in 2 months. First RMA'd card worked for 2 weeks before the same thing happened again,. and the third card only lasted 5 days before it crapped out as well. I'm pretty much SOL now and I'm done going back and forth with MSI regarding it, but I hope others will really think long and hard before pulling the trigger on this card.

Good information, more research is in order!
Everyone needs to at least check newegg and amazon reviews before buying the MSI 560 GTX Ti 448.

roll_right 11-19-2012 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TH0R (Post 54948658)
I got a GTX 460 for like $70 recently, new. You may want to do the same and use SLI.
It would be your best bet for upgrading, if your motherboard supports SLI and your power supply has enough juice.

Yeah unfortunately my mATX board can't SLI. Thinking of just going with a new build around Haswell so probably will skip this. So tempting though.

toshinden5 11-19-2012 11:21 AM

should i get the 660 or this?

Tweak155 11-19-2012 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toshinden5 (Post 54949282)
should i get the 660 or this?

If you're a price / performance kind of guy, I'd get this.

Otherwise the 660 is better.

sosimple 11-19-2012 11:26 AM

Looks like no newegg on shopdiscover?

urlhasbeenblocked 1.5% is next best portal to buy from new egg?

I plan on adding this to the recent Biostar/AMD deal from last week, my first computer build.

Good match?

http://slickdeals.net/permadeal/8...wer-supply

toshinden5 11-19-2012 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tweak155 (Post 54949392)
If you're a price / performance kind of guy, I'd get this.

Otherwise the 660 is better.


Thanks. I will definetely wait out for the 660 maybe even for the 680 :)

trojanvirus 11-19-2012 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toshinden5 (Post 54949282)
should i get the 660 or this?

Well that's like asking if you should buy a Cobalt or an Accord. Not really in the same category. But I would definitely go for 660ti or higher if you are a serious gamer

BinkyBill 11-19-2012 11:33 AM

Out of Stock. Didn't last long.

uio77 11-19-2012 11:35 AM

Two of this or wait for a 7970 for $250 in BF???

vip00 11-19-2012 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sosimple (Post 54949532)
Looks like no newegg on shopdiscover?

urlhasbeenblocked 1.5% is next best portal to buy from new egg?

I plan on adding this to the recent Biostar/AMD deal from last week, my first computer build.

Good match?

http://slickdeals.net/permadeal/8...wer-supply

That power supply is likely not going to cut it. You're looking at a 125W CPU with a card that can pull 200W+ under load. That's going to be cutting it far too close for comfort IMO.

rchan326 11-19-2012 11:38 AM

darn, went back n forth in my head about pulling the trigger. once i finally decided to buy, it went OOS. noooooooo!

starfire9371 11-19-2012 11:41 AM

I got 2 of them on CL for $150 2 months ago. I didn't know they still cost this much. Nice card though.

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Originally Posted by dbowholtz (Post 54944854)


d_crome 11-19-2012 11:50 AM

I'd get a 7850 at this price point.

m715 11-19-2012 11:50 AM

Dang OOS, saw it too late...

steven88 11-19-2012 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by vip00 (Post 54949978)
That power supply is likely not going to cut it. You're looking at a 125W CPU with a card that can pull 200W+ under load. That's going to be cutting it far too close for comfort IMO.

agreed...I would say get at least a reputable branded 500w PSU....Corsair, PC Power & Cooling, etc

shandy706 11-19-2012 11:55 AM

I'm waiting for the 660 ti to come down anyway. I'm currently running an overclocked 460 and it's running everything I throw at it (combined with a liquid cooled i7 and 9GB RAM).

Great deal for those running anything less than a GTX 460 though. The moment the 660 ti comes down I'll make the jump. There are a few games on the horizon that will require me to jump on board with it.

noblerinthemind 11-19-2012 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by TH0R (Post 54948868)
and then some...

4 tiers difference between those 2 cards - HUGE!
This card would not "blow" the 4850, as technology is not yet advanced enough for that type of scenario to exist for most people.
However, it would blow it away without even lifting a finger.

Lol. Some day... some day...

APhamX 11-19-2012 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by whirly (Post 54947150)
not really an upgrade except for getting physx..

http://www.tomshardware.com/revie...107-7.html

I would rather unlock those 6950s to 6970s.. (if you can)

It is 6970. But I mean, finding another 6970 would be more expensive than getting two of these and using them for sli.

whirly 11-19-2012 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by APhamX (Post 54951582)
It is 6970. But I mean, finding another 6970 would be more expensive than getting two of these and using them for sli.

agreed although i could have sworn i saw your post say "6950" thats why i responded..

anyways i have an unlocked 6950 2gb twin frozr3 (OC's like crazy and then some with Dwood bracket).. and lovin it.. although like you said trying to get another is either too expensive or you would have to go used..

Stucco 11-19-2012 12:20 PM

Great deal, but ended up passing due to the reviews people have been posting. Many ppl are having problems after 3 months, problems with drivers, problems with PSU. Decided to hold off for a BF deal on a 7870 or 660 Ti.

TH0R 11-19-2012 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by noblerinthemind (Post 54951362)
Lol. Some day... some day...

:lol::lmao:

kyle76 11-19-2012 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by hemoglobin (Post 54947972)
what are you smoking, the 560 448 is on par with a 6950, which totally destroy the 6870

Not according to anandtech [anandtech.com]; 6870 and 560ti are just about even.

AMD HD7850 1GB is almost 10% faster while consuming 100 watt less. Considering that you can get HD7850 1GB for only about $30 more, I think I'd rather wait for it to hit $140 mark. Or HD7850 2GB to hit below $160.

Or, if you don't have 500+ watt power supply or don't mind a bit slower card, GTX650Ti would also be a good option; especially since you only need a true 350 watt power supply. The benchmark is at anandtech [anandtech.com].

eltacopirata 11-19-2012 12:39 PM

This is not that hot of a deal considering the prices on 7850s/7870s that are not much more expensive and come with Far Cry 3 for free. Just not seeing the value here. The jump in performance from last to this generation was fairly substantial.

kendogg 11-19-2012 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Tweak155 (Post 54949020)
This is an OMG YES upgrade.

Thank you both! and thanks to the person that hyperlinked to tomshardware

quick question.. which brand is preferred nowadays days vs ATI and Nvidia? or are they about even?

steven88 11-19-2012 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by kyle76 (Post 54952326)
Not according to anandtech [anandtech.com]; 6870 and 560ti are just about even.

AMD HD7850 1GB is almost 10% faster while consuming 100 watt less. Considering that you can get HD7850 1GB for only about $30 more, I think I'd rather wait for it to hit $140 mark. Or HD7850 2GB to hit below $160.

Or, if you don't have 500+ watt power supply or don't mind a bit slower card, GTX650Ti would also be a good option; especially since you only need a true 350 watt power supply. The benchmark is at anandtech [anandtech.com].

I don't see a 6870 in that link you provided....also this is a GTX 560Ti 448....which is a good amount faster than a regular 560Ti

OCNewbie 11-19-2012 02:02 PM

Dammit! Would have loved this.

kyle76 11-19-2012 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by steven88 (Post 54953476)
I don't see a 6870 in that link you provided....also this is a GTX 560Ti 448....which is a good amount faster than a regular 560Ti

My mistake; you're correct. The 560Ti in the review was a regular 560Ti and not 560Ti-448 (which is closer to 570 than 560Ti). So this would have been a killer deal.

impaler13355 11-19-2012 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by littlehamsterz (Post 54946830)
What wattage is the PSU you guys are using? I'm reading the reviews and it looks like this card is a serious power hog with people having issues with the gpu when they're using 650 watts or so. One reviewer says you need at least 800 watts to prevent problems.

I have an 850. I can run two of these with ease on that supply (I have my roomate has the same card and we SLI for fun sometimes). I have heard of fan complaints before but MSI seems to be doing good about these issues. Mine has a 3 year warranty on it according to MSI when i called them.

mcperson2k 11-19-2012 05:30 PM

Ordered this today before I even saw it on here (thank god because it's sold out already).

Bought that $150(AR) DIY kit from TigerDirect today, and than saw this on Newegg and grabbed it, along with a $35(AR) 80 plus 630w PSU. Nice little desktop to play WoW on for only $305.

I am coming from a core 2 duo, integrated graphics laptop, ha.

Tweak155 11-19-2012 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by kyle76 (Post 54957896)
My mistake; you're correct. The 560Ti in the review was a regular 560Ti and not 560Ti-448 (which is closer to 570 than 560Ti). So this would have been a killer deal.

These guys are blowing it way out of proportion. Is the card faster than a 6870? Yes. But anybody looking to upgrade would be a fool to aim for a 560ti 448 as their next step up if they already have a 6870. It simply is not that big of a move.

Shoot for a newer gen card or at least 2 tiers up. (I.E a 580 or 6970)

EDIT:

A good rule of thumb I try to consider to stop me from just spending money to spend money is to ask myself "Will this card / upgrade allow me to play something I would have otherwise been unable to play?" or "Will this card max out a game that I could just barely get going on my current rig?"

Otherwise, just be patient. This stuff will ONLY get cheaper.

If it is a true hobby of yours, you wouldn't have a middle of the line to begin with :)

trojanvirus 11-19-2012 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Tweak155 (Post 54967380)
These guys are blowing it way out of proportion. Is the card faster than a 6870? Yes. But anybody looking to upgrade would be a fool to aim for a 560ti 448 as their next step up if they already have a 6870. It simply is not that big of a move.

Shoot for a newer gen card or at least 2 tiers up. (I.E a 580 or 6970)

EDIT:

A good rule of thumb I try to consider to stop me from just spending money to spend money is to ask myself "Will this card / upgrade allow me to play something I would have otherwise been unable to play?" or "Will this card max out a game that I could just barely get going on my current rig?"

Otherwise, just be patient. This stuff will ONLY get cheaper.

If it is a true hobby of yours, you wouldn't have a middle of the line to begin with :)

Words of wisdom

beastyben1 11-20-2012 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Tweak155 (Post 54967380)
These guys are blowing it way out of proportion. Is the card faster than a 6870? Yes. But anybody looking to upgrade would be a fool to aim for a 560ti 448 as their next step up if they already have a 6870. It simply is not that big of a move.

I generally agree, but if people can dump the Radeon 6870 for around $120 on Craigs or $130+ on Fleabay then I say why not? You break even and get added performance plus a new warranty. But to each their own. :cheers:

Tweak155 11-20-2012 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by beastyben1 (Post 54985352)
I generally agree, but if people can dump the Radeon 6870 for around $120 on Craigs or $130+ on Fleabay then I say why not? You break even and get added performance plus a new warranty. But to each their own. :cheers:

Because of the time and hassle involved. The gain isn't that tangible, but finding a buyer, swapping the cards from the system, installing new drivers (ideally you'd format, especially going from AMD to Nvidia), paypal fees, etc - there is a clear effort involved. In the end I'd want a whole new experience, not some slight improvement that may or may not be noticed.

If someone was standing in front of me and said "hey, I'll swap this 560ti 448 for you 6870 and $20" then sure. But generally a good video card upgrade is worth taking time to make comparisons, doing research and finding your tangible gains to your current games list and future game purchases, etc. Not just "hey this card is better, let's buy it and sell mine".

But you're right, to each their own. I don't suspect everyone puts as much thought into it as I do (nor do they likely need to).

dronewolf 11-20-2012 07:33 AM

I picked this up for my new build. Im pretty excited since the current pc i've played games on ran off onboard graphics. Im guessing this will be like the movie avatar or something. A whole new world...

Tweak155 11-20-2012 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by dronewolf (Post 54988674)
I picked this up for my new build. Im pretty excited since the current pc i've played games on ran off onboard graphics. Im guessing this will be like the movie avatar or something. A whole new world...

Your eyes will be opened, and you will be one with the planet.

Cherub 11-20-2012 10:30 AM

Nevermind.

ericbXU 11-20-2012 04:26 PM

My "order date" is 11/19/2012 and my "invoice date" is 11/20/2012. Will the rebate center honor the order date as the "purchase date" for rebate purposes?

Tweak155 11-21-2012 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ericbXU (Post 55011690)
My "order date" is 11/19/2012 and my "invoice date" is 11/20/2012. Will the rebate center honor the order date as the "purchase date" for rebate purposes?

When you mail it in, just make sure to circle the order date. I always circle the important information (video card part number that matches the rebate, order date, where it was ordered from, etc).

beastyben1 11-22-2012 04:01 PM

Got mine, just not installed yet. Who has installed theirs? Any feedback?

Strmtrper6 11-22-2012 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by beastyben1 (Post 55132714)
Got mine, just not installed yet. Who has installed theirs? Any feedback?

I already had one(ordered another for SLI).

I've been playing Assassin's Creed Brotherhood with everything up at 2560x1440 and I never drop below 30 FPS. It jumps between 30 and 60 depending on where int he game I am.

chefjw 12-07-2012 03:05 AM

If you payed with paypal make sure you get in on the price match guarantee since the price went down at newegg and amazon.

plebian 01-14-2013 09:53 PM

My rebate was declined. Did you guys get your rebate?

beastyben1 01-15-2013 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by plebian (Post 56854922)
My rebate was declined. Did you guys get your rebate?

Why was it declined? Mine is approved, has a tracking number, just haven't received it yet. MSI in my experience has been good. If you forgot something, just fax it over to them and they'll approve it.

plebian 01-15-2013 01:46 PM

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- Signed Rebate Form is missing- Copy of Invoice is missing- Original UPC & Serial Number Barcode label is missing- No proof of purchase- Barcode label is missing- Reseller is not eligible for this offer- No proof of purchase date in documentation
The CSR said that MSI didn't receive my rebate mail. I'll have to send the photocopies to Resubmissions. It seems odd that out of 8 or so rebate mails sent out at the same time this is the only one that didn't reach its destination. This time I'm sending it via USPS Certified Mail.

UPDATE (01/26/2013): The rebate is approved. It seems like 4myrebate.com likes to deny rebates on the basis of mail not received on a set date. When they do get to the mail the status will update to mail received.


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