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sam55 11-23-2012 03:26 AM

Samsung 840 Series 250GB 2.5-inch Internal Solid State Drive MZ-7TD250BW 139.99 + FS
 
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Adorama Via eBay has the Samsung 840 Series 250GB for 139.99 + FS

lowest price so Far

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-8...5aeb9b1a0b

yuugotserved 11-23-2012 03:26 AM

250GB Samsung 840 Series 2.5" SATA III TLC Internal Solid State Drive SSD (MZ-7TD250BW) $140 + Free Shipping
 
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Adorama via eBay has 250GB Samsung 840 Series 2.5" SATA III TLC Internal Solid State Drive SSD (MZ-7TD250BW) for $140 with free shipping. Thanks sam55
Price Research: Our research indicates that 250GB Samsung 840 Series 2.5" SATA III TLC Internal Solid State Drive SSD (MZ-7TD250BW) is $18 lower (11% savings) than the next best available price from a reputable merchant with prices ranging from $158 to $199. - yuugotserved

wikipost 11-23-2012 03:26 AM

This post can and should be edited by users like you :)
 
Samsung SSD 840: Testing the Endurance of TLC NAND [anandtech.com]
Samsung SSD 840 (250GB) Review [anandtech.com]

compusascam 11-23-2012 03:27 AM

price in title

sam55 11-23-2012 03:28 AM

Samsung 840 Series 250GB 2.5-inch Internal Solid State Drive MZ-7TD250BW 150.00 + FS
 
Adorama Via eBay has the Samsung 840 Series 250GB for 149.99 + FS

lowest price so Far

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-8...5aeb9b1a0b

young3 11-23-2012 03:28 AM

damn. nice price

Heroin 11-23-2012 03:28 AM

Is this one better than 830?

baonguyen312 11-23-2012 03:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heroin (Post 55168518)
Is this one better than 830?

No, this uses a cheaper kind of flash memory. So, 830 is faster than 840.

compusascam 11-23-2012 03:34 AM

oy you reposted yourself.

sam55 11-23-2012 03:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baonguyen312 (Post 55168556)
No, this uses a cheaper kind of flash memory. So, 830 is faster than 840.

wrong!! this is much faster and thinner. its the newer version

waveofdestiny 11-23-2012 03:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sam55 (Post 55168638)
wrong!! this is much faster and thinner. its the newer version

Is this an iphone joke? LOL.

Anyways, the 840 is slower than the 830. The 840 *PRO* is faster than the 830.

baonguyen312 11-23-2012 03:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sam55 (Post 55168638)
wrong!! this is much faster and thinner. its the newer version

Don't make people confused about something you never know. Don't talk, just do a research. Newer version doesn't mean better at all.

sam55 11-23-2012 03:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waveofdestiny (Post 55168670)
Is this an iphone joke? LOL.

Anyways, the 840 is slower than the 830. The 840 *PRO* is faster than the 830.


the 840 was realest last month

waveofdestiny 11-23-2012 03:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sam55 (Post 55168714)
the 840 was realest last month

Awesome stuff. Newer doesn't mean better or faster though :lol:

sam55 11-23-2012 04:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waveofdestiny (Post 55168732)
Awesome stuff. Newer doesn't mean better or faster though :lol:

The 830 is a better drive. The TLC drives look like they may have a shorter life span. Unless its the 840 pro. and this is the Pro version

waveofdestiny 11-23-2012 04:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sam55 (Post 55169162)
The 830 is a better drive. The TLC drives look like they may have a shorter life span. Unless its the 840 pro. and this is the Pro version

No, this 840 is NOT the pro version. The deal you posted is the 840 250GB model #:MZ-7TD250 [samsung.com].

The pro version is 256GB and is model #: MZ-7PD256 [samsung.com]

blackblaze 11-23-2012 04:54 AM

I would think this would get more attention, this is the newest version, right?

sam55 11-23-2012 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackblaze (Post 55170104)
I would think this would get more attention, this is the newest version, right?

Correct this was released in October

sirixxx 11-23-2012 07:23 AM

LOL @ sam55 trying hard on this thread of his for rep making up info. 830 has an edge on 840 for sure. But still a decent price if you are not nitpicking. Wish it was the 840 pro. I'd jump on it.

blackblaze 11-23-2012 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waveofdestiny (Post 55168670)
Is this an iphone joke? LOL.

Anyways, the 840 is slower than the 830. The 840 *PRO* is faster than the 830.

ahh, thats the clarification I needed. I guess if this was the pro, it would have been FP and sold out.

oldfart 11-23-2012 07:46 AM

Wow! Price went down to $139. Killer deal!

deal-steal 11-23-2012 08:43 AM

thanks op

farmfresh 11-23-2012 08:46 AM

Wow nice price drop!

o0adam0o 11-23-2012 08:48 AM

How does this compare to the newegg 240gb $139
SanDisk Extreme SDSSDX-240G-G25 2.5"


Which one is faster?

????

taurus2007 11-23-2012 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by o0adam0o (Post 55179866)
How does this compare to the newegg 240gb $139
SanDisk Extreme SDSSDX-240G-G25 2.5"

Which one is faster?

????

They are all fast. And even "if" SanDisk is faster, I bet you won't notice it!

VaporTrailer 11-23-2012 08:54 AM

I'm patiently waiting for a deal on an 830 or M4.

o0adam0o 11-23-2012 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by taurus2007 (Post 55180140)
They are all fast. And even "if" SanDisk is faster, I bet you won't notice it!


True. It looks like SanDisk has almost double the write speed. Not sure if adorama charges tax in TX tho.

QuickStriker 11-23-2012 08:55 AM

I would jump on it.... if it wasn't the fact I decided to go with a better 830 256GB drive yesterday for 170 with notebook kit...

cm0011 11-23-2012 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baonguyen312 (Post 55168556)
No, this uses a cheaper kind of flash memory. So, 830 is faster than 840.


where you get this information from? this is the regular 840 series, it is NOT the 840 PRO series. overall, this cannot be better than the 830 series.

farmfresh 11-23-2012 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by o0adam0o (Post 55179866)
How does this compare to the newegg 240gb $139
SanDisk Extreme SDSSDX-240G-G25 2.5"


Which one is faster?

????

Samsung its much faster and better quality and has much better rating. Also this is 10GB more

cm0011 11-23-2012 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by o0adam0o (Post 55179866)
How does this compare to the newegg 240gb $139
SanDisk Extreme SDSSDX-240G-G25 2.5"


Which one is faster?

????


by technicality, the sandisk is faster. however, for ordinary users like us, you will never ever notice the slightest difference at all, except through benchmarking and such.

tocheeba 11-23-2012 09:00 AM

Man, people are buying this thinking it's a steal - stop crapping on the people saying 840 is bad compared to the 830. The 830 was on sale for $150 a couple weeks back and is BETTER than the 830. The 840 PRO is better than both, but is much more expensive.

farmfresh 11-23-2012 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by o0adam0o (Post 55180232)
True. It looks like SanDisk has almost double the write speed. Not sure if adorama charges tax in TX tho.

according to their website only in NY and NJ

"Sales Tax
Local sales tax applies to orders being delivered in New York and New Jersey. We do not accept resale or tax exempt status on online orders. If you wish to apply a tax exempt form to your order, please place your order by phone, email or fax.

International orders are subject to tax, duty and import fees. See International Orders."

EddieWoah 11-23-2012 09:05 AM

SDers who think they know it all crack me up!! The 840 is both faster AND slower than the 830 it just depends on what test you look at. Overall they are about the same. TLC does indeed have a shorter lifespan, but that doesn't mean it's going to die on you anytime soon. FOLKS PLEASE READ ENTIRE REVIEWS AND NOT JUST THE "CONCLUSION" OR "WRAP UP" AT THE END OF REVIEWS. BETTER YET PLEASE STOP JUMPING ON THE BACK ON WHAT OTHER STUPID SDers ARE SPEWING.

Has anyone seen a 830 for $139.99? No..that's what I thought. The cheapest that got was about $150 or $160. Thanks OP!!!!

EDIT: What's really funny is that folks who claim this is a terrible SSD go on to purchase an Intel 330/335/520, Kingston, SanDisk or OCZ SSD. Any Samsung, including the last gen 830, blow any one of those out of the water :) :)

klase21 11-23-2012 09:07 AM

840 Pro and 830 are based on MLC, this 840 is based on TLC which has short life span and shows lower performance.

EddieWoah 11-23-2012 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klase21 (Post 55180938)
840 Pro and 830 are based on MLC, this 840 is based on TLC which has short life span and shows lower performance.

Buzz off troll.

ricoman 11-23-2012 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tocheeba (Post 55180538)
Man, people are buying this thinking it's a steal - stop crapping on the people saying 840 is bad compared to the 830. The 830 was on sale for $150 a couple weeks back and is BETTER than the 830. The 840 PRO is better than both, but is much more expensive.

It is a steal. It matches the 830 in all respects performance-wise except it is slightly slower in sequential write speed. It's really nothing that you would actually notice and is still very fast and very well reviewed. It does use flash memory, since it is new there is his no way to tell about longevity, but Samsung has a great rep with their SSDs. They are entirely made by Samsung unlike most other SSDs where parts may be bought and assembled then branded as their own.
830s are very hard to find nowadays and people are actually jacking up prices because of the demand.

vettefan8 11-23-2012 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EddieWoah (Post 55180800)
SDers who think they know it all crack me up!! The 840 is both faster AND slower than the 830 it just depends on what test you look at. Overall they are about the same. TLC does indeed have a shorter lifespan, but that doesn't mean it's going to die on you anytime soon. FOLKS PLEASE READ ENTIRE REVIEWS AND NOT JUST THE "CONCLUSION" OR "WRAP UP" AT THE END OF REVIEWS. BETTER YET PLEASE STOP JUMPING ON THE BACK ON WHAT OTHER STUPID SDers ARE SPEWING.

Has anyone seen a 830 for $139.99? No..that's what I thought. The cheapest that got was about $150 or $160. Thanks OP!!!!

EDIT: What's really funny is that folks who claim this is a terrible SSD go on to purchase an Intel 330/335/520, Kingston, SanDisk or OCZ SSD. Any Samsung, including the last gen 830, blow any one of those out of the water :) :)

I bought multiple 830's for less than $139.99 if you count my ebay bucks :D $169.99 from the newegg ebay store - $34.00 in ebay bucks = $135.99 each.

tocheeba 11-23-2012 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EddieWoah (Post 55181004)
Buzz off troll.

You mad bro?

EddieWoah 11-23-2012 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vettefan8 (Post 55181214)
I bought multiple 830's for less than $139.99 if you count my ebay bucks :D $169.99 from the newegg ebay store - $34.00 in ebay bucks = $135.99 each.

Good for you. But, the bottom line is that it hasn't been close to $139 AC or AR. You were just lucky enough to have ebay bucks. My point is that the 840 is no less than a 830. They are both quality and I would take either one. People claim the 840 is garbage, but then recommend a Intel, SanDisk, Kingston, OCZ, etc. SSD. This to me proves they don't know shite

Quote:

Originally Posted by tocheeba (Post 55181244)
You mad bro?

Thanks for making my point Troll :)

vettefan8 11-23-2012 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EddieWoah (Post 55181420)
Good for you. But, the bottom line is that it hasn't been close to $139 AC or AR. You were just lucky enough to have ebay bucks.


I didn't use any ebay bucks that I had laying around. I was GIVEN $34.00 in ebay bucks for making the purchase. Newegg was doing 20% back in ebay bucks for any purchases that you made from their newegg ebay store. Don't be mad because you missed out. Hopefully you'll get over it eventually.

http://slickdeals.net/f/5352440-E...-OCT-18-19

shanmugam 11-23-2012 09:25 AM

From Anandtech review: for client work loads (most of us here) this SSD is way faster in read (compared to 830); yes has lower endurance again for most of us - it will last easily 10 years.

At $140 - no brainer, too bad i have two SSDs already.

EddieWoah 11-23-2012 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vettefan8 (Post 55181668)
I didn't use any ebay bucks that I had laying around. I was GIVEN $34.00 in ebay bucks for making the purchase. Newegg was doing 20% back in ebay bucks for any purchases that you made from their newegg ebay store. Don't be mad because you missed out. Hopefully you'll get over it eventually.

http://slickdeals.net/f/5352440-E...-OCT-18-19

I hope I'm talking to some kid and not a grown adult. Why would I be upset, I just got the 840 for $4 more But, then again I'm sure you're also happy since everyone knows ignorance is bliss :P

TheGame21x 11-23-2012 09:28 AM

Tempted to get one to be my dedicated games drive, leaving my 256GB Crucial M4 solely dedicated to OS and programs...even if that's a bit overkill for just those things.

I have a 120GB Kingston HyperX here that could work too...decisions decisions...

AiponGkooja 11-23-2012 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EddieWoah (Post 55181946)
I hope I'm talking to some kid and not a grown adult. Why would I be upset, I just got the 840 for $4 more But, then again I'm sure you're also happy since everyone knows ignorance is bliss :P

Take your own advice and read the actual reviews. The 840 IS worse than the 830. Nobody said the 840 is TERRIBLE, it's just slightly worse than the 830.

That said, this still seems to be a great drive and is definitely a great price. The only reason I'm not biting is because it's about a month old. Never again, early adoption, never again. :)

de3th 11-23-2012 09:44 AM

cheaper on newegg since you get far cry 3 for free

EddieWoah 11-23-2012 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AiponGkooja (Post 55182704)
Take your own advice and read the actual reviews. The 840 IS worse than the 830. Nobody said the 840 is TERRIBLE, it's just slightly worse than the 830.

That said, this still seems to be a great drive and is definitely a great price. The only reason I'm not biting is because it's about a month old. Never again, early adoption, never again. :)

Apparently me and few other SDers are the only ones who have read the reviews. At least you say that's it's a great since since most complain about it's TLC or speed. Then the same people either buy or recommend a Intel, OCZ, Kingston, etc.

The top SSDs are SAMSUNG, Crucial, Plextor and the new Corsair

QuickStriker 11-23-2012 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by de3th (Post 55182824)
cheaper on newegg since you get far cry 3 for free

Are they really giving out Far Cry 3 games like it's candy growing out from trees? Every offer I see from Newegg comes with that... gosh...

swunder 11-23-2012 09:52 AM

I want this if it comes with Far Cry 3 but I can't tell how to get that deal exactly.

People saying this is much slower than the 830 are nuts. The only big difference is sequential write speed which is a specific application. Both are still lightning fast.

sdwinner 11-23-2012 09:55 AM

The 840 is just as good as the 830 when it comes to real world performance. The 840 just lacks the higher write speed of the 830, but even at the lower write speed it's extremely fast. And don't let people talk you out of getting a good deal saying the 830 last longer, they are both rated at MTBF1,500,000 hours. You will have a new computer before these things die, unless you like to use a computer for 30+ years lol. Also, the 840 has slightly faster read speeds.

Donkii 11-23-2012 09:55 AM

Nice price. It may not be the PRO series but I don't care. Picked one up. Thanks OP.

creamyhorror 11-23-2012 09:59 AM

My potential concern is a (small?) risk of failure on the 840. If I understand correctly, the reviewer at Anandtech had his 840 (non-pro) die [anandtech.com]. If there aren't more reports of failures, I'd be more disposed to jumping on this deal.

yimnvs 11-23-2012 10:10 AM

I just changed from a 60GB Gskill Sandforce SSD to a 256GB Samsung 830 SSD and honestly didn't feel any difference in real life usage. The Specs of the 830 look good on paper and benchmarks but in real life...all SSD perform pretty much the same.

Anjunax 11-23-2012 10:25 AM

How does this compare to the HyperX 250GB ? Any comparisons in real world tasks? Couldn't find any

lex2000 11-23-2012 10:31 AM

840 pro > 830 >>> 840

sam55 11-23-2012 10:40 AM

You also get 2.80 in ebay bucks

Masejoer 11-23-2012 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lex2000 (Post 55185510)
840 pro > 830 >>> 840

Yes. For some uses the faster write speed IS much better. I'd say for most typical laptop and desktop uses, very rarely will you ever need the 400MB/sec of the faster drives, or see any noticeable latency differences.

PlatinumX 11-23-2012 10:47 AM

In for 1 for a server lab environment. Thanks OP

dotless 11-23-2012 10:50 AM

I'm a noob, your typical desktop user. would i notice any difference?

dotless 11-23-2012 10:51 AM

i'm a noob, your typical desktop user. i wouldn't really notice any difference between all these ssds right?

TinyRK 11-23-2012 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dotless (Post 55186532)
I'm a noob, your typical desktop user. would i notice any difference?

NO!
Especially since you seem like to upgrade from a normal mechanical drive.

cardio 11-23-2012 11:09 AM

will this fine piece of technology work on a new laptop?

sam55 11-23-2012 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cardio (Post 55187642)
will this fine piece of technology work on a new laptop?


Absolutely! What samsung has done in the 840 is, that its much thinner and works even even for netbooks

cbr9rider 11-23-2012 11:14 AM

Will these drives work in PS3. If so is there really any benefit?

sam55 11-23-2012 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dotless (Post 55186532)
I'm a noob, your typical desktop user. would i notice any difference?

SSD is 10 times faster from regular drives. In what ever you do

spocko 11-23-2012 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by o0adam0o (Post 55179866)
How does this compare to the newegg 240gb $139
SanDisk Extreme SDSSDX-240G-G25 2.5"

Which one is faster?

The SanDisk uses toggle NAND flash memory. To quote Hard OCP:
"this type of NAND is considered the premium NAND for SSDs because of its high speed and resistance to performance degradation"

The Samsung 840 uses TLC NAND, which is slower and less durable.

buddybd 11-23-2012 11:33 AM

This is a good deal even if it is slightly slower than the 830.

And I won't say the difference in speed isn't noticable as I myself saw the difference between a 128GB M4 and a 120GB Sandisk SSDX, but it won't matter if this is you first SSD, and even if it isn't it's still a good price for having all apps in your SSD.

I would've gotten one myself but I got a HyperX 3K for $65 3 days ago, that's all I need for my games, apps and some games are already on another SSD.

poetuan 11-23-2012 11:35 AM

The 840 (non-pro) is still slightly faster than the 830 at random write/read but the 830 uses a better NAND that last longer (MLC>TLC) If you but the 840 you would definitely gonna have to give it TLC to make it last

mattspalace 11-23-2012 12:00 PM

Other than benchmarks, you'll NEVER notice the difference. This should be FP.

Stomper88 11-23-2012 12:28 PM

Enough with these ~256GB SSD drives. I'm ready for 512GB already. Give me one for $250, please.

aqan 11-23-2012 12:31 PM

how do you find out if it is compatible with your laptop?

biggiep 11-23-2012 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by poetuan (Post 55189000)
The 840 (non-pro) is still slightly faster than the 830 at random write/read but the 830 uses a better NAND that last longer (MLC>TLC) If you but the 840 you would definitely gonna have to give it TLC to make it last


Give me a break, in around a year from now you will find a 512GB SSD drive that's faster and the same price, at which point you will unceremoniously replace your existing drive, rendering all concerns about durability meaningless.

ek9cv5 11-23-2012 12:32 PM

^ yes plz lol

Horo 11-23-2012 12:42 PM

In for one dedicated gaming hdd. Great price, free shipping and no tax to CA.

beowulf7 11-23-2012 12:49 PM

I would've been all over it it was the Pro version for even a few bucks more. I'd also need a desktop kit. : \

FWIW, here are Newegg user reviews [newegg.com], $158.40 over there.

cocacolakid 11-23-2012 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aqan (Post 55192490)
how do you find out if it is compatible with your laptop?

The Samsung SSD's are compatible with both Windows and Mac. I have one in my Mac mini and it works great. (not all SSD's work well with Macs, but the Samsung's work great)

Intel brand SSD's are also nice, but stay far away from OCZ brand SSD's, they have incredibly high failure rates. A deal on a POC is not a deal.

chanhol 11-23-2012 01:13 PM

Nvidia issue with the 840
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cocacolakid (Post 55193652)
The Samsung SSD's are compatible with both Windows and Mac. I have one in my Mac mini and it works great. (not all SSD's work well with Macs, but the Samsung's work great)

Intel brand SSD's are also nice, but stay far away from OCZ brand SSD's, they have incredibly high failure rates. A deal on a POC is not a deal.

My understanding is that some of us MacBook Pro owners who have an NVidia MCP79 AHCI (look under Apple->About this Mac->More Info...->Serial-ATA) really should buy the 830 and not the 840. In this instance, the older 830 is worth a bit more money. Otherwise, take the savings.

cocacolakid 11-23-2012 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EddieWoah (Post 55181420)
...My point is that the 840 is no less than a 830. They are both quality and I would take either one. People claim the 840 is garbage, but then recommend a Intel, SanDisk, Kingston, OCZ, etc. SSD. This to me proves they don't know shite


Exactly. All of the other brands mentioned have problems. Intel has the fewest of the non-Samsung SSD's, but they still have problems. If people recall the horrible Seagate Barracuda 1TB failure rates from a couple of years ago, OCZ's SSD's have an even higher failure rate than that, and Seagate has never rebounded from that disaster. Samsung's SSD's have been pretty rock solid. Anything can always fail, but the Samsung's have a track record of being very reliable, unlike the other brands. And while the OCZ's are on dirt cheap sales right now, you're getting something that's a time bomb. Just Google OCZ SSD failure rate.

timta2 11-23-2012 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aqan (Post 55192490)
how do you find out if it is compatible with your laptop?

You find out the maximum thickness in mm (millimeters) that your laptop can support and then you find a SSD with that thickness or less. If you post the make and model I'm sure someone would help you, as I would have if you had posted it. Keep in mind that your laptop would have to support a SATA (not ATA/IDE!) 2.5 inch hard drive to use a SSD.

The 830 is 7mm thick.
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1795/2/

The 840 is 7mm thick.
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/2077/

The 840 Pro is 7mm thick.
http://www.custompcreview.com/rev...iew/15768/

aqan 11-23-2012 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timta2 (Post 55195422)
You find out the maximum thickness in mm (millimeters) that your laptop can support and then you find a SSD with that thickness or less. If you post the make and model I'm sure someone would help you, as I would have if you had posted it. Keep in mind that your laptop would have to support a SATA (not ATA/IDE!) 3.5 inch hard drive to us a SSD.

The 830 is 7mm thick.
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1795/2/

The 840 is 7mm thick.
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/2077/

The 840 Pro is 7mm thick.
http://www.custompcreview.com/rev...iew/15768/

Thanks for your help
I have a lenovo x230i

cocacolakid 11-23-2012 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chanhol (Post 55195156)
My understanding is that some of us MacBook Pro owners who have an NVidia MCP79 AHCI (look under Apple->About this Mac->More Info...->Serial-ATA) really should buy the 830 and not the 840. In this instance, the older 830 is worth a bit more money. Otherwise, take the savings.

My 2012 13" MBP has an Intel 7 AHCI, not the NVidia AHCI, so I don't have any experience with that. My 2012 has worked fine with both a Samsung and an OWC SSD.

cocacolakid 11-23-2012 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aqan (Post 55195594)
Thanks for your help
I have a lenovo x230i

Your Lenovo X230i is an SATA 3, so it can run the latest SSD's at full 6Gb/s speed. Any 7mm SSD (like the Samsung here) will fit.

Look at page 57 of your support manual for how to swap out a hard drive:

http://support.lenovo.com/en_US/g...D=UM014928

chanhol 11-23-2012 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cocacolakid (Post 55195620)
My 2012 13" MBP has an Intel 7 AHCI, not the NVidia AHCI, so I don't have any experience with that. My 2012 has worked fine with both a Samsung and an OWC SSD.

I should have noted, mine is mid-2009 unibody 13" MBP. Lots of problems with the Nvidia AHCI and SandBridge, etc. I'm venturing in over my head a bit, and am fine updating the firmware, turning TRIM on, etc., but that's it. So from what I've read, because of my MBP's NVidia SATA interface, I'm best paying extra for the 830.

Bushrod 11-23-2012 01:32 PM

I'd much rather wait for a deal on the 830 and pay an additional 20 bucks or so. Faster and additional 2 year warranty, indicating it's more reliable.

Edit: 830 actually has a 3 year warranty also. Misinformed by cnet review [cnet.com].

aqan 11-23-2012 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cocacolakid (Post 55195896)
Your Lenovo X230i is an SATA 3, so it can run the latest SSD's at full 6Gb/s speed. Any 7mm SSD (like the Samsung here) will fit.

Look at page 57 of your support manual for how to swap out a hard drive:

http://support.lenovo.com/en_US/g...D=UM014928

amazing.. repped

cocacolakid 11-23-2012 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chanhol (Post 55196082)
I should have noted, mine is mid-2009 unibody 13" MBP. Lots of problems with the Nvidia AHCI and SandBridge, etc. I'm venturing in over my head a bit, and am fine updating the firmware, turning TRIM on, etc., but that's it. So from what I've read, because of my MBP's NVidia SATA interface, I'm best paying extra for the 830.

I can't give you any advice on that, but I would recommend that if you haven't posted this question on the MacRumors forum, go do that and see what people with experience have found to work best so you're not wasting time and money on an SSD that isn't the best match.

carbonfiber 11-23-2012 01:37 PM

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Pr...678?vs=532
beside the write is a bit slower than 830, the specs looks decent for this price.
.....still on the fence, want to get two 128GB drives for raid-0

Braxus 11-23-2012 01:39 PM

In my opinion, most folks should easily get 7+ years out of this drive given the noted write cycles in many reviews. Heck by year 3, I know I'll probably have a better SSD to replace this one!

cocacolakid 11-23-2012 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Bushrod (Post 55196126)
I'd much rather wait for a deal on the 830 and pay an additional 20 bucks or so. Faster and additional 2 year warranty, indicating it's more reliable.

The 830 and 840 both have the same 3 year warranty.

http://www.samsung.com/us/compute...M-features

http://www.samsung.com/us/compute...W-features

The 840 Pro has a 5 year warranty, but the 256GB version has a $70 higher retail price than the 250GB 840.

klam25 11-23-2012 02:48 PM

hope i dont get flamed for this.

im on the fence about buying this or the Intel 330 Series SSDSC2CT240A3K5 2.5" 240GB SATA III MLC @ $140 free shipping.

i don't care much about speed difference because upgrading from a regular HD to either is a huge improvement for me, and i won't notice the difference between the two SSDs in everyday use anyways.

according to other threads i've read, intel has lowest failure rate in the industry <1%.

whereas according to some reviews from sites such as anadtech, they reported having 4 of these 840 drives failing on them. link --> http://forums.anandtech.com/showt...?t=2282016

just wondering if members on here who are SSDs expert can comment on this. i hear that the problem was within the firmware that was shipped with the new 840s. thanks for any input!

goldenone23 11-23-2012 02:50 PM

in your case klam, go with the Intel

cutiger04 11-23-2012 02:51 PM

This doable for an early 2008 Macbook Pro? if so, what "kit" do I need to install it?

Bushrod 11-23-2012 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by cocacolakid (Post 55196588)
The 830 and 840 both have the same 3 year warranty.

http://www.samsung.com/us/compute...M-features

http://www.samsung.com/us/compute...W-features

The 840 Pro has a 5 year warranty, but the 256GB version has a $70 higher retail price than the 250GB 840.

You are correct, thanks. I was misinformed by the cnet review [cnet.com] for the 840.

yourameh 11-23-2012 03:26 PM

The 840 uses TLC NAND
The 830 uses MLC

TLC is rated at 1000 cycles which for the "light user" writing about 10gb/day is roughly 7 years
MLC is rated at 3000 cycles which roughly calculates out to 21 years

In reality, the 840 should be just fine but as far as I'm concerned, the 830 has already proven it self and I prefer tried and true.

Their performance is very similar. Nobody would ever notice. The 840 is faster at some things, the 830 is faster at others.

Decent source: http://www.anandtech.com/show/633...b-review/4

kilabyte 11-23-2012 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cbr9rider (Post 55187864)
Will these drives work in PS3. If so is there really any benefit?

Yes it will, but...
Quote:

Originally Posted by sam55 (Post 55187890)
SSD is 10 times faster from regular drives. In what ever you do

...it's been proven that SSDs DO NOT improve PS3's performance at all. I'd pop in a larger drive instead of an SSD. Used to have a 500GB one in mine.



Either way, ty OP, pulled the trigger on one for my new PC.

savedna 11-23-2012 03:56 PM

Question?

So getting one of these babies will help with processing crunching power?

pjoner 11-23-2012 04:09 PM

in for one

kilabyte 11-23-2012 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by savedna (Post 55202872)
Question?

So getting one of these babies will help with processing crunching power?

Crunching power? No, that's your processor's job. An SSD speeds up the process of the data being accessed/ stored, so while it will make programs open faster/ windows boot faster, it will not speed up processes that rely on CPU power such as rendering, etc.

puremismatch 11-23-2012 04:25 PM

Jump on this or wait till cyber monday deals?

Vision33r 11-23-2012 04:31 PM

For the type of performance most people need today, any SSD is good enough. Access time > transfer rate for launching apps.

For folks that do video rendering or transcoding stuff then transfer rate matters.

Vision33r 11-23-2012 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eatkabab (Post 55201524)
The 840 uses TLC NAND
The 830 uses MLC

TLC is rated at 1000 cycles which for the "light user" writing about 10gb/day is roughly 7 years
MLC is rated at 3000 cycles which roughly calculates out to 21 years

In reality, the 840 should be just fine but as far as I'm concerned, the 830 has already proven it self and I prefer tried and true.

Their performance is very similar. Nobody would ever notice. The 840 is faster at some things, the 830 is faster at others.

Decent source: http://www.anandtech.com/show/633...b-review/4

At 10GBs of writes per day, the TLC NAND lifespan is 3.5years for 128GB. I doubt anyone writes 10GBs of data everyday for 3-4 years. For enterprise this is not good enough.

roll_right 11-23-2012 04:43 PM

I just want to point out this is 7mm height, so those looking for a SSD to fit their ultraportables or netbooks, this is it. Also if you get this and your ultraportable ends up being 9mm it comes with a spacer to fill in the space. Great deal and I would rep op if he wasn't being absolutely...I'll just leave it at that.

Madman91102 11-23-2012 04:44 PM

Was all set to pull the trigger until I seen the $18 lower... not a big enough slick deal for me! :p lol

yourameh 11-23-2012 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vision33r (Post 55204544)
At 10GBs of writes per day, the TLC NAND lifespan is 3.5years for 128GB. I doubt anyone writes 10GBs of data everyday for 3-4 years. For enterprise this is not good enough.

Yup. I would HIGHLY recommend NOT getting any 128gb TLC SSD (and especially not for enterprise). The 256gb models "should" be okay for the life of your computer but only time will tell. 830's are still the best verified bang/buck though.

Even once you get rid of your old computer, you can always throw the 830 in an old laptop or something. Meaning that it doesn't really loose value. Even in 10 years time, I suspect today's SSD's will still have meaningful at least standard speed.

Then again, things like this are always falsely said. I hope I eat my words in well under 10 years time.

ot444 11-23-2012 04:53 PM

I would like to install this in my Mac Pro desktop. Does it have everything I need in the box to do so? Do I need any sort of adapter?

ejicon 11-23-2012 06:11 PM

What a confusing thread. Just do some research and stop listening to people in this forum.

cocacolakid 11-23-2012 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ot444 (Post 55205328)
I would like to install this in my Mac Pro desktop. Does it have everything I need in the box to do so? Do I need any sort of adapter?

You will need an adapter, but you'll have to do a little research to find the correct one. Most of the traditional 2.5" to 3.5" adapters are for side mounted drives like in normal PC cases, they won't work in your Mac Pro where the hard drives are front mounted. I'd recommend asking on MacRumors forums what people are using for their Mac Pro's if you can't find a match.

ot444 11-23-2012 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by cocacolakid (Post 55210846)
You will need an adapter, but you'll have to do a little research to find the correct one. Most of the traditional 2.5" to 3.5" adapters are for side mounted drives like in normal PC cases, they won't work in your Mac Pro where the hard drives are front mounted. I'd recommend asking on MacRumors forums what people are using for their Mac Pro's if you can't find a match.


Thanks for replying. I also noticed this on the Amazon description page:

Quote:

Installation Kit also includes 3.5" bracket with screws, SATA data and power cables, mounting spacer, and SATA to USB adapter cable
So I would need something other than that due to it mounting in a Mac Pro? I'll ask on the forums you suggested also.

SDCali 11-23-2012 07:14 PM

dang.. i just bought the 500gb velociraptor for 80 bucks here. im tempted to get an SSD..

just read this whole thread. Im a gamer.. that means im on my computer for quite a while. it looks like i need the "MLC" type of memory. Im just concerned the 250gigs is a bit small. I just filled my 300GB velociraptor and im about to do a fresh windows install to clear to remove windows bloat storage and get a fresh OS.

The 840 pro or the 830.. very minimal differences in speed from what i read here.. at the level of speed i dont think i should be too concerned as it wont impact anything unless im trying to measure my e-penis and trying to shave off a ms or 2.

cocacolakid 11-23-2012 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ot444 (Post 55211644)
Thanks for replying. I also noticed this on the Amazon description page:



So I would need something other than that due to it mounting in a Mac Pro? I'll ask on the forums you suggested also.

Yes, you should need an adapter. The model number of the one we ordered on eBay is MZ-7TD250BW, which is not the kit. The kit ends in KW and includes the spacer. According to Samsung and even the Amazon page you're referring to, it says the spacer is only including in the installation kit.

I found an adapter that should work for you, OWC makes one called the drive sled. http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Ot.../MMP35T25/

Anjunax 11-23-2012 11:39 PM

limited quantity available / 1,448 sold

O.o incoming cancellation wave?

naturallyk2 11-23-2012 11:58 PM

Be careful guys... this might be a List and Ditch. Too many red flags with location, quantity, and how many has sold in less than 24 hours.

irishrally 11-24-2012 12:22 AM

I'd like to thank all the 830 fanboys for helping to drive down the prices of the 840 drives. It amazes me that almost no one seems to have read the [entire] AnandTech review.

And yeah I'm a little worried this $140 free shipping no tax deal is a little too good to be true.

RiversMerge 11-24-2012 03:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by irishrally (Post 55224240)
I'd like to thank all the 830 fanboys for helping to drive down the prices of the 840 drives. It amazes me that almost no one seems to have read the [entire] AnandTech review.

And yeah I'm a little worried this $140 free shipping no tax deal is a little too good to be true.

I read that article all the way through in the end the life span expectancy is what made me try to cancel this order. I am sure that I would never be using a ssd in 20 years that the MLC is expected to last but certainly could see using it longer than the 5 years of the TLC.
We still have our 10yo 80gb XP going strong and plan to keep it until 2014 end of support date at least. I would want any SSD drive I buy to last as long as any operating system I may have.

klam25 11-24-2012 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klam25 (Post 55199798)
hope i dont get flamed for this.

im on the fence about buying this or the Intel 330 Series SSDSC2CT240A3K5 2.5" 240GB SATA III MLC @ $140 free shipping.

i don't care much about speed difference because upgrading from a regular HD to either is a huge improvement for me, and i won't notice the difference between the two SSDs in everyday use anyways.

according to other threads i've read, intel has lowest failure rate in the industry <1%.

whereas according to some reviews from sites such as anadtech, they reported having 4 of these 840 drives failing on them. link --> http://forums.anandtech.com/showt...?t=2282016

just wondering if members on here who are SSDs expert can comment on this. i hear that the problem was within the firmware that was shipped with the new 840s. thanks for any input!

bump

can anyone else comment on this? thanks. i know the deal is over, but there will always be another deal that pops up :)

creamyhorror 11-24-2012 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by irishrally (Post 55224240)
I'd like to thank all the 830 fanboys for helping to drive down the prices of the 840 drives. It amazes me that almost no one seems to have read the [entire] AnandTech review.

Interestingly, if you read the AnandTech forums you would have noticed the reviewer saying that his 840 (non-pro) drive died not long after he wrote the review. It isn't in the article at all. This kept me from jumping on this deal right away, but I eventually did it. I'm just hoping it was really bad luck on the reviewer's part.

Quote:

And yeah I'm a little worried this $140 free shipping no tax deal is a little too good to be true.
Considering that other fast SSDs are also going for around $140 for 250GB shipped, and they use MLC memory, $140 is not special at all.

Quote:

Originally Posted by klam25 (Post 55231226)
whereas according to some reviews from sites such as anadtech, they reported having 4 of these 840 drives failing on them. link --> http://forums.anandtech.com/showt...?t=2282016

just wondering if members on here who are SSDs expert can comment on this. i hear that the problem was within the firmware that was shipped with the new 840s. thanks for any input!

The current word is that the failing drives (used by the poster with 4 failures, mwroobel) all had an older firmware revision. I think the Anandtech drives also had that revision. So people are inferring that the older firmware contained the problem. So far I don't think there have been failures among the drives with the newer firmware.

This only refers to 840 pro drives, though. Not much seems to be known about the reliability of the non-pro 840 (the one in this deal), besides what I said earlier.

cocacolakid 11-24-2012 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klam25 (Post 55199798)
hope i dont get flamed for this.

im on the fence about buying this or the Intel 330 Series SSDSC2CT240A3K5 2.5" 240GB SATA III MLC @ $140 free shipping.

i don't care much about speed difference because upgrading from a regular HD to either is a huge improvement for me, and i won't notice the difference between the two SSDs in everyday use anyways.

according to other threads i've read, intel has lowest failure rate in the industry <1%.

whereas according to some reviews from sites such as anadtech, they reported having 4 of these 840 drives failing on them. link --> http://forums.anandtech.com/showt...?t=2282016

just wondering if members on here who are SSDs expert can comment on this. i hear that the problem was within the firmware that was shipped with the new 840s. thanks for any input!

Your link doesn't work.

klam25 11-24-2012 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cocacolakid (Post 55235958)
Your link doesn't work.

hmm loaded up fine on my end

klam25 11-24-2012 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by creamyhorror (Post 55234376)
Interestingly, if you read the AnandTech forums you would have noticed the reviewer saying that his 840 (non-pro) drive died not long after he wrote the review. It isn't in the article at all. This kept me from jumping on this deal right away, but I eventually did it. I'm just hoping it was really bad luck on the reviewer's part.


Considering that other fast SSDs are also going for around $140 for 250GB shipped, and they use MLC memory, $140 is not special at all.


The current word is that the failing drives (used by the poster with 4 failures, mwroobel) all had an older firmware revision. I think the Anandtech drives also had that revision. So people are inferring that the older firmware contained the problem. So far I don't think there have been failures among the drives with the newer firmware.

This only refers to 840 pro drives, though. Not much seems to be known about the reliability of the non-pro 840 (the one in this deal), besides what I said earlier.

yes thats the impression i got. the non pro 840 doesnt have enough feedback yet regarding its reliability.

cocacolakid 11-24-2012 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klam25 (Post 55238544)
hmm loaded up fine on my end

Working fine for me now too, must have just been an Anandtech problem at the time I first tried it. Thanks.

xtreme23 11-24-2012 10:31 PM

Could someone please explain the difference between tlc and Mlc to me?

beowulf7 11-25-2012 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by xtreme23 (Post 55265366)
Could someone please explain the difference between tlc and Mlc to me?

Perhaps this article [anandtech.com] will help.

beowulf7 11-25-2012 10:46 AM

Samsung SSD 840 (250GB) Review [anandtech.com]

pannyjunky 11-25-2012 02:16 PM

Just received tracking information (shipped through USPS).

canonikon 11-28-2012 11:46 AM

Anyone got a tutorial on how to install this into my 2007 iMac?

Do I have to backup everything from my iMac to an external hard drive?

I will have to re-install the OS into this SSD right?

First time opening up an iMac....need help.


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