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Discombobulated 12-14-2012 12:12 AM

250GB Samsung 840 Series 2.5" SATA III TLC Internal Solid State Drive SSD (MZ-7TD250BW) $149.99 + Free Shipping
 
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Update: Amazon [amazon.com] now has priced match the 250GB Samsung 840 Series for $149.99 + Free Shipping (Thanks HighwayToHell)

*For those interested (no rebates; although not as good as $140 during Thanksgiving but for those need it) Exp. 11:59PM PST 12/14

wikipost 12-14-2012 12:12 AM

This post can and should be edited by users like you :)
 
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I ordered this 1 hour after receiving the email and it was canceled immediately stating insufficient stock.
The very next day it was again on sale but with $18 dollars off. Now they won't honor the $30 discount code.
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The 840 can also be had for $149.99 from Amazon. Free Shipping and no codes needed.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009NHAEXE

fkfkguy 12-14-2012 12:28 AM

is this a good ssd? I need a ssd drive, not sure if I should get this or the 128 gb crucial on amazon that has 1k+ ratings..

BlissX 12-14-2012 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fkfkguy (Post 56041676)
is this a good ssd? I need a ssd drive, not sure if I should get this or the 128 gb crucial on amazon that has 1k+ ratings..

http://www.anandtech.com/show/633...0gb-review

Basically, if you're using it on a system for leisure than productivity/workhorse, you should be more than fine. Life expectancy is 7 years with a theoretical ~275TB writing capacity to the SSD before it dies.

Selma 12-14-2012 12:39 AM

SAMSUNG 840 Series MZ-7TD250BW 2.5 inch 250GB SATA III Internal Solid State Drive $150
 
SAMSUNG 840 Series MZ-7TD250BW 2.5 inch 250GB SATA III Internal Solid State Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Pro...147189-L0E

Code: EMCJHJC23

RedZoneOS 12-14-2012 02:20 AM

Samsung 840 SSD 250gb for 149.99
 
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Newegg sale for samsung 840 250Gb SSD, available now for 24 hours only.

I got this as an emailed deal for the weekend so I imagine you have to be a newsletter subscriber but not sure.

PROMO CODE: EMCJHJC23 + Free shipping!
Emailed promo link:
http://promotions.newegg.com/NEem...p100#Up100

Product page:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Pro...147189-L0E

quailstick 12-14-2012 02:25 AM

Now if only amazon will price match it...

tbozeglav 12-14-2012 05:57 AM

Great deal. Cheapest I've seen these drives go for .

One thing to note: This offering is for the drive and the software CD only - it does NOT come with the installation hardware (sata cable, 2.5" to 3.5" adapter bracket, screws, etc). Depending on the availability of those pieces to you at little to no cost, it may be a worthwhile purchase. The comparably, fully equipped OE Retail version goes for $210, so it stands to reason that this is still a great deal.

area5x1 12-14-2012 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tbozeglav (Post 56046100)
Great deal. Cheapest I've seen these drives go for .

One thing to note: This offering is for the drive and the software CD only - it does NOT come with the installation hardware (sata cable, 2.5" to 3.5" adapter bracket, screws, etc). Depending on the availability of those pieces to you at little to no cost, it may be a worthwhile purchase. The comparably, fully equipped OE Retail version goes for $210, so it stands to reason that this is still a great deal.

I install ssds on my computer by duct taping them to the inside of my case. Who needs brackets?

9DodgeFan 12-14-2012 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tbozeglav (Post 56046100)
Great deal. Cheapest I've seen these drives go for .

One thing to note: This offering is for the drive and the software CD only - it does NOT come with the installation hardware (sata cable, 2.5" to 3.5" adapter bracket, screws, etc). Depending on the availability of those pieces to you at little to no cost, it may be a worthwhile purchase. The comparably, fully equipped OE Retail version goes for $210, so it stands to reason that this is still a great deal.

I thought most SSD's come as just a bare drive, like this one....?

tbozeglav 12-14-2012 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 9DodgeFan (Post 56046698)
I thought most SSD's come as just a bare drive, like this one....?

Many come with the bracket in cases where they are the full retail package. This isn't and it's not uncommon for them to be sold like this. Just hoping to save someone the hassle of ordering this not knowing it lacks the mounting hardware they may need at installation.

bdunbar 12-14-2012 06:30 AM

When attempting the promo code: The promo code EMCYTZT2634 has expired and is no longer valid.
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Xymox 12-14-2012 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bdunbar (Post 56046992)
When attempting the promo code: The promo code EMCYTZT2634 has expired and is no longer valid.
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I just logged into NE, entered the code EMCJHJC23 and my total came up $151.98.

Wolfie8881 12-14-2012 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tbozeglav (Post 56046804)
Many come with the bracket in cases where they are the full retail package. This isn't and it's not uncommon for them to be sold like this. Just hoping to save someone the hassle of ordering this not knowing it lacks the mounting hardware they may need at installation.

Then again SSD drives are so lightweight that even velcro works fine, good if you want to hide them or want more airflow in your system.

clickstream 12-14-2012 06:48 AM

Got it. Pretty good deal since missing the Black Friday one. I use the Sabrent USB 2.0 to SATA to clone the drive, which is about $15.00 at Fry's. Download free Macrium Reflect to clone the drive. So much easier to use than the other free cloner software, and it works especially well if your hard disk is larger than the SSD, which it almost always is. The other disk copy/cloners have problems with shrinking your likely massively empty hard disk partitions to fit the smaller SSDs.

Before cloning the disk to the SSD, I use free Pirisoft CCleaner to clean the disk of junk (be careful to uncheck stuff you want to keep in BOTH CCleaner tabs--I think it is overly aggressive deleting cookies, browser history and many applications) and then use the free Pirisoft Defraggler to compress the disk for the smallest, fastest clone. This will make your SSD perform as well as it can.

Rippa_MD 12-14-2012 07:12 AM

What's a good SSD for productivity with at 180GB-256GB around $150-$200??

msbytes 12-14-2012 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rippa_MD (Post 56048312)
What's a good SSD for productivity with at 180GB-256GB around $150-$200??

Intel 520 180Gb can be had for less than $200

PedroR 12-14-2012 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rippa_MD (Post 56048312)
What's a good SSD for productivity with at 180GB-256GB around $150-$200??

Anything with a decent boiler capacity that can continually provide steam for making milk based drinks

zhopa 12-14-2012 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rippa_MD (Post 56048312)
What's a good SSD for productivity with at 180GB-256GB around $150-$200??

This one is great.

HighwayToHell 12-14-2012 09:53 AM

Amazon price matched for $149.99

bestco 12-14-2012 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlissX (Post 56041752)
http://www.anandtech.com/show/633...0gb-review

Basically, if you're using it on a system for leisure than productivity/workhorse, you should be more than fine. Life expectancy is 7 years with a theoretical ~275TB writing capacity to the SSD before it dies.


That's pretty scary knowing your drive will die in 7 years before even buying it ;)

bobby2478 12-14-2012 10:24 AM

One thing to keep in mind is this is the new 840 drive, which there isn't much track record on yet. So drawing conclusions about this drive's performance and reliability based on how good the 830's were would be flawed.

Not saying it's a bad drive, just saying it's so new there isn't a long track record yet, where the 830 was a rockstar drive in terms of reliability and performance.

Supposedly the new drives are the 840 and the 840 Pro, where the standard 840 will be the more "value" oriented drive and the 840 Pro will be the "performance" drive. In that case, the 830 would probably be more closely aligned with the 840 Pro rather then the standard 840.

Food for thought

agureghian 12-14-2012 10:25 AM

only if this was an 830

nerofive5 12-14-2012 10:35 AM

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TLC Drive vs MLC Drive [pcper.com]

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This loosely translates to slower 'program time' (i.e. lower write speeds), as well as lower long-term endurance of the flash memory as a whole. Cell leakage is a consequence of wear, and the same amount of leakage will cause more bit rot on TLC as it would with MLC. Samsung claims to have taken care of the endurance part of the equation with greater overprovisioning, but even so they have reduced the warranty period of the 840 down to 3-years from 5 of their 840 Pro. This review will hopefully shed light ont the first potential issue - write speeds.
I would spend additional and get an 830 when on sale. Basically TLC is trying to stuff more data is the same size memory, and thus slower (smaller con) and greatly limits the life expectancy. Also there maybe a multitude more of issues, once the drive is over 75% capacity.

richardbb85 12-14-2012 10:39 AM

getting cheaper n cheaper

chuckynoris 12-14-2012 10:39 AM

Where are lower prices promised by TLC NAND????????

patrick999 12-14-2012 10:43 AM

This one has slow write speeds vs the 830. Should that affect real world performance?

zhopa 12-14-2012 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by nerofive5 (Post 56055968)
TLC Drive vs MLC Drive [pcper.com]

I would spend additional and get an 830 when on sale. Basically TLC is trying to stuff more data is the same size memory, and thus slower (smaller con) and greatly limits the life expbectancy. Also there maybe a multitude more of issues, once the drive is over 75% capacity.

It doesn't greatly limit it's life expectancy. It's simply has lower life expectancy than MLC. However, for you, as a user, it doesn't matter since you'll stop using it long before it happens.
Don't make conclusions from pseudo-technical publications written by people without any real qualifications or expertise in the matter.

andrewexd 12-14-2012 10:46 AM

Im tempted because theres no rebate... how does this compare to the Sandisk extreme?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00...-9&pi=SL75

m3fawner 12-14-2012 10:48 AM

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Ele...ds=samsung 840

I sent Amazon a price match request this morning. Amazon has free 2 day shipping too, even for non-prime members. Happy shopping!

patrick999 12-14-2012 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrewexd (Post 56056378)
Im tempted because theres no rebate... how does this compare to the Sandisk extreme?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00...-9&pi=SL75

Seems the Sandisk is better because of faster writes -520 MB/s vs 250 MB/s

Cardano 12-14-2012 11:26 AM

In 4 1. Still got a laptop with platters. This will mean I don't have to migrate anything off the laptop, should improve battery life ( 840's power use is almost non existent ) and be such a speed increase on windows7 os drive that I won't need a new laptop till next Black Friday.

nerofive5 12-14-2012 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zhopa (Post 56056258)
It doesn't greatly limit it's life expectancy. It's simply has lower life expectancy than MLC. However, for you, as a user, it doesn't matter since you'll stop using it long before it happens.
Don't make conclusions from pseudo-technical publications written by people without any real qualifications or expertise in the matter.

Nice opinion. Too bad its unfounded. Also pseudo-technical publications aside, you did not argue any of the statements made. are you saying samsung did not cut their warranty on the 840 (non-pro) drives by 40%. Am I missing the part where Samsung does something to back its BELIEF that these drives will outlast MLC Tech, that there is no hit to life expectancy as there is with MLC from SLC?

TLC = Unproven tech, and samsungs own warranty change support this. But totally worth saving $14

xifter 12-14-2012 11:38 AM

After looking at the test results at Anandtech (the AnandTech Storage Bench 2011—Light Workload test best categorizes my usage), I've determined the 840 will be fine for me over the 830.

In for 1 from Amazon. Link to the 840 at Amazon with the same price put into the Wiki, but also shown here:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009NHAEXE

rseiler 12-14-2012 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by nerofive5 (Post 56058254)
Nice opinion. Too bad its unfounded. Also pseudo-technical publications aside, you did not argue any of the statements made. are you saying samsung did not cut their warranty on the 840 (non-pro) drives by 40%. Am I missing the part where Samsung does something to back its BELIEF that these drives will outlast MLC Tech, that there is no hit to life expectancy as there is with MLC from SLC?

Did he say that? All he said was that, exceptional use scenarios aside, you're unlikely to be using the drive by the time the memory comes to the end of its natural life. Anand has said the same.

Meadowlands 12-14-2012 11:48 AM

Wow, I am on the fence...I have a two year old 64 GB C300 SSD I could put into the wifes laptop.

Xymox 12-14-2012 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meadowlands (Post 56058730)
Wow, I am on the fence...I have a two year old 64 GB C300 SSD I could put into the wifes laptop.

Oh, I'd do it. If you have a new home for your old SSD (SATA II I presume) it'd be a no brainer for me. Heck, I have a year old 160GB Intel SATA II and I'm considering it! :O

nerofive5 12-14-2012 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rseiler (Post 56058716)
Did he say that? All he said was that, exceptional use scenarios aside, you're unlikely to be using the drive by the time the memory comes to the end of its natural life. Anand has said the same.

The life expectancy is theoretical, and if were quoting anand, dont for get the performance overtime page [anandtech.com] this drive takes a big hit when you put a workload on the drive (the average user does compression and uncompression) it kills the performance. Additionally Anand suggests an additional 10% free to keep the drive healthy (30 vs 20% on other drives) , that drops this drive by 25 gigs. That difference makes this the same price as the 830 on sale with 1/3 the life expectancy. Do tell me why that is a smart buy?

parz 12-14-2012 12:16 PM

I want a pro version at this price which is twice faster in writes than this one.
Otherwise, no go for me.

Jgr 12-14-2012 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parz (Post 56059746)
I want a pro version at this price which is twice faster in writes than this one.
Otherwise, no go for me.

Plan to wait a while

nerofive5 12-14-2012 12:28 PM

The drive requires 10% more free space than the 830, has a 1/3 life expectancy. If thats worth a $14 savings do buy the drive. (Not to mention the poor write performance under strain)

Jgr 12-14-2012 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nerofive5 (Post 56060182)
The drive requires 10% more free space than the 830, has a 1/3 life expectancy. If thats worth a $14 savings do buy the drive. (Not to mention the poor write performance under strain)

And where is the 830 for $164??

gundie 12-14-2012 12:34 PM

What's the difference between this and the 830?

Jgr 12-14-2012 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by gundie (Post 56060420)
What's the difference between this and the 830?

Main diff is 830 uses MLC NAND vs TLC of 840.
TLC has lower lifespan.
Anandtech quotes it as largely a non issue.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/633...b-review/4

nerofive5 12-14-2012 12:50 PM

The drive is repeatedly been on sale at that price. I have gotten them at frys and amazon.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jgr (Post 56060226)
And where is the 830 for $164??

Microcenter has them on sale for 159.99 every other week

Amazon has repeated had the drive on sale at 165-170.

Ive bought at both. If a potential buyer can wait 5-10 days, theres much better drives to be had at a minimal bump in price. the 830 is proven, its memory is more expensive for a reason, and its almost the same price when on sale.

Jgr 12-14-2012 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nerofive5 (Post 56061002)
The drive is repeatedly been on sale at that price. I have gotten them at frys and amazon.


Microcenter has them on sale for 159.99 every other week

Amazon has repeated had the drive on sale at 165-170.

Ive bought at both. If a potential buyer can wait 5-10 days, theres much better drives to be had at a minimal bump in price. the 830 is proven, its memory is more expensive for a reason, and its almost the same price when on sale.

I agree. I'd prefer an 830. No microcenter anywhere remotely close to me
I haven't seen 830 in stock at amazon in a while. I must've missed it.

nerofive5 12-14-2012 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jgr (Post 56060624)
Main diff is 830 uses MLC NAND vs TLC of 840.
TLC has lower lifespan.
Anandtech quotes it as largely a non issue.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/633...b-review/4


http://www.anandtech.com/show/633...-review/11

Many people spend 30-40% more on an i7 (eg 3770k) vs an i5 (3750k), and to the average user there is almost no difference in performance (use of hyper threading is limited), in fact for gamers they can be identical, yet many buy just for that option.

As far as SSD's, these are two different classes of drives. SLC>MLC>TLC, SLC isnt even a consumer product. MLC = mid grade, TLC = low end. Samsung may have a nice TLC drive, But their MLC is a different class (Just like any other brand).

nerofive5 12-14-2012 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jgr (Post 56061100)
I agree. I'd prefer an 830. No microcenter anywhere remotely close to me
I haven't seen 830 in stock at amazon in a while. I must've missed it.

If your shopping then Id keep looking, if you really want a TLC drive Id wait for the 840 500gb to hit a $300 sale again. (since the size doubling doubles life expectancy of any ssd, based on a set amout of use)

Seeing it hit that price, almost pushed me to buy a TLC drive. I really would like to see an 830 500gb hit 300-320 in the next few months, not saying it will, just wishing out loud.

andrewexd 12-14-2012 01:05 PM

Isn't the 830 discontinued?

scorean 12-14-2012 01:47 PM

Thanks

Ananke 12-14-2012 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gundie (Post 56060420)
What's the difference between this and the 830?

This dies on the second month, unless Samsung fixed that problem. Then, it may actually stay alive for a year :cool:

I would get some reliable Indilinx controller drive, for the same money. Of course, the best would be Samsung MLC like 830 or 840Pro, or Marvel based + MLC drive, but they cost more.

In my sole opinion, this is not worth $150. It is worse than the early OCZ drives...

Leonidas 12-14-2012 02:02 PM

Samsung just released a firmware update yesterday for this, by the way.

Zinthar 12-14-2012 05:10 PM

This is tempting, but I hate the idea of being an adopter of what is essentially the first mainstream TLC drive -- to get the performance they're achieving from this thing, they must really be pulling some strings with the controller.

sniperruff 12-14-2012 05:26 PM

My time machine tells me that TLC drives do indeed have lower life expectancy than MLC drives, a total of 3 years and 3 weeks.

But he also told me to grab these TLC drives before they roll out the QLC drives, which have a 1-year warranty and will have life expectancy of 1 year and 5 weeks.

Then he also said that avoid the PLC drives like plague - Samsung will lower the warranty to 8 weeks, and those will last for 9 weeks and 2 days.

So grab these TLC drives while they're hot!

frogfeet007 12-15-2012 06:35 AM

in for one. got tired of waiting for the 830 to come down to the 149 price point. as for tlc vs mlc, i would prefer 830 but also prefer spending less dough. even with the slower write speeds it'll be much better that the 320 gb platter my slick x230 came with; and as for the life expectancy, 5 years is plenty for me. who knows what we'll be using for storage in 5 years time? and i learned the hard way long ago to back up may data.

djliquid 12-15-2012 10:22 AM

I think you mean 3570. But I get your point. I am among those that opted for the i7

But yea, all 3 of the cases I have came with the holes in the removeable drive bays to mount the SSDs, or any 2.5" drive, for that matter.

I actually ordered a bracket and one of my drives came with a bracket - so yea, you likely won't need it.

One thing I did find out though is my board and ssd drives support 6GBps transfer but my cables are apparently only 3gbps. doh! I guess the next thing is to search those and see if I can squeeze any more speed out.



Quote:

Originally Posted by nerofive5 (Post 56061334)
http://www.anandtech.com/show/633...-review/11

Many people spend 30-40% more on an i7 (eg 3770k) vs an i5 (3750k), and to the average user there is almost no difference in performance (use of hyper threading is limited), in fact for gamers they can be identical, yet many buy just for that option.

As far as SSD's, these are two different classes of drives. SLC>MLC>TLC, SLC isnt even a consumer product. MLC = mid grade, TLC = low end. Samsung may have a nice TLC drive, But their MLC is a different class (Just like any other brand).


theradiantchild 12-15-2012 03:44 PM

will this work in my lenovo x230? I want to get rid of the regular hard drive thats in it and put an SSD in it. Do I need to do anything special to accomplish this? Thanks!

theradiantchild 12-15-2012 03:46 PM

looks like the amazon price went up

5thElement 12-15-2012 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theradiantchild (Post 56094748)
looks like the amazon price went up

Who cares? The drive is not worth it unless the price falls to $100. This non-pro version has 1/3rd the life span of the previous gen 830 models. Complete waste of money IMO.

5thElement 12-15-2012 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leonidas (Post 56064108)
Samsung just released a firmware update yesterday for this, by the way.

No firmware upgrade will fix the fact that this drive has 1/3rd the life of previous generation 830 models.

metaldood 12-15-2012 03:55 PM

Wow this 830 vs 840 just doesn't end. Every thread this debate comes up.

theradiantchild 12-15-2012 04:04 PM

the 830 would be fine for my laptop im sure....

5thElement 12-15-2012 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by metaldood (Post 56094922)
Wow this 830 vs 840 just doesn't end. Every thread this debate comes up.

and its no joke, you would have to be crazy to be buying this TLC based drive. What is going on in peoples minds that are buying this drive? I think its a lack of education. People see 256gb SSD for $150 wooohooo.....yet they have absolutely no idea what they're buying. It's really sad actually....

Pizzahut 12-15-2012 04:29 PM

dam i didnt realise it was a 7mm drive...

5thElement 12-15-2012 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pizzahut (Post 56095652)
dam i didnt realise it was a 7mm drive...

Question, what made you post this comment as it provided nothing to the thread.

Kryspie 12-15-2012 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5thElement (Post 56095798)
Question, what made you post this comment as it provided nothing to the thread.


he provided a lot more information in here than you did.....

Pizzahut 12-15-2012 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5thElement (Post 56095798)
Question, what made you post this comment as it provided nothing to the thread.

It provided people following the thread with the info that this drive is 7mm which was not posted in the description.

metaldood 12-15-2012 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5thElement (Post 56095116)
and its no joke, you would have to be crazy to be buying this TLC based drive. What is going on in peoples minds that are buying this drive? I think its a lack of education. People see 256gb SSD for $150 wooohooo.....yet they have absolutely no idea what they're buying. It's really sad actually....

It's sad that people like you think wooohoo MLC gazillion GB read and write and 20 year life. when fact is most don't need that much.

5thElement 12-15-2012 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by metaldood (Post 56095964)
It's sad that people like you think wooohoo MLC gazillion GB read and write and 20 year life. when fact is most don't need that much.

Again, education is key to understanding our reality.

This drive will only be reliable for about 1.5 years for the average user since write amplification greatly increases as the drive has more data on it. I dont want to buy another SSDs every 1.5 years.

With the old 830 series you are set with RELIABLE use for at least 7 years. I dont know about you but even if the 256gb size is not enough in the next 6 years there will still be PLENTY of use for a 256gb SSD for the next 10 years. Not only that but if decide to upgrade NOBODY will buy your worn SSD and you will lose your entire investment.


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