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ForYourBadDeal 01-09-2013 02:52 PM

Western Digital WD Green WD20EARX 2TB 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive : $89.99 + FS
 
Newegg [newegg.com] Western Digital WD Green WD20EARX 2TB 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive : $89.99 + FS

+ $20 off w/ promo code WEDIJAN9, limited offer

loligagger2.2 01-09-2013 03:39 PM

BEWARE- 5400 RPM

Good review of this
http://petermoulding.com/western_...ata_3_disk

"The disk rotational speed is a big factor in access times. The standard disk rotates at 7200 Rotations Per Minute. The Seagate low power green disks rotate at 5900 RPM. The Samsung low power green disks rotate at the slightly slower 5400 RPM.The Samsung 2 TB equivalent is the Samsung HD204UI. Western Digital refuse to display the rotational speed in their specifications and instead talk about some rubbish they call IntelliPower. When manufacturers do that, it means they are hiding a weak point. The Western Digital WD20EARX has a rotational speed of only 5400 RPM and they want to hide their inferior rotation speed, compared to Seagate, using marketing junk speak."

BubunyaB 01-09-2013 03:45 PM

Reg price $139.99
Now $109.99
Save: $30.00 (21%)

Where did you find $89.99?:O)

Omyn.z 01-09-2013 03:47 PM

+ $20 off w/ promo code WEDIJAN9, limited offer

Quote:

Originally Posted by BubunyaB (Post 56744982)
Reg price $139.99
Now $109.99
Save: $30.00 (21%)

Where did you find $89.99?:O)


BubunyaB 01-09-2013 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omyn.z (Post 56745018)
+ $20 off w/ promo code WEDIJAN9, limited offer

I see, thanks. But there is no info 'bout promo code in first post...

dazz887 01-09-2013 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loligagger2.2 (Post 56744814)
BEWARE- 5400 RPM

Good review of this
http://petermoulding.com/western_...ata_3_disk

"The disk rotational speed is a big factor in access times. The standard disk rotates at 7200 Rotations Per Minute. The Seagate low power green disks rotate at 5900 RPM. The Samsung low power green disks rotate at the slightly slower 5400 RPM.The Samsung 2 TB equivalent is the Samsung HD204UI. Western Digital refuse to display the rotational speed in their specifications and instead talk about some rubbish they call IntelliPower. When manufacturers do that, it means they are hiding a weak point. The Western Digital WD20EARX has a rotational speed of only 5400 RPM and they want to hide their inferior rotation speed, compared to Seagate, using marketing junk speak."

Dude this is for storage not running an OS.............:shake:

ForYourBadDeal 01-09-2013 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BubunyaB (Post 56745066)
I see, thanks. But there is no info 'bout promo code in first post...

Added thanks...

faizoff 01-09-2013 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LetsGiveATry (Post 56745880)
Quote:

Originally Posted by BubunyaB (Post 56745066)
I see, thanks. But there is no info 'bout promo code in first post...

Added thanks...

I bought this today. Hopefully it won't be DOA.

RogueAgent 01-09-2013 05:05 PM

bad review,

xxxHolic 01-09-2013 05:11 PM

From the review:
Short life drive and DOA.

Ion Control 01-09-2013 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loligagger2.2 (Post 56744814)
BEWARE- 5400 RPM


No, nothing wrong with 5400. If you want faster access times and higher power consumption, go with 7200 (or even 10k). If you want low power usage and don't care about access times (e.g. in an enclosure or as a second drive), 5400 is perfectly fine.


The only "junk" here is the excerpt you posted.

kg21 01-09-2013 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ion Control (Post 56747718)
No, nothing wrong with 5400. If you want faster access times and higher power consumption, go with 7200 (or even 10k). If you want low power usage and don't care about access times (e.g. in an enclosure or as a second drive), 5400 is perfectly fine.


The only "junk" here is the excerpt you posted.

+1, I don't understand why people would look at a 2tb Green drive like it's going to be their main OS drive. This is for storage/backing up stuff and 5400rpm is good enough/better for that than 7200rpm. The price on the other hand is decent if you need a drive right now but it isn't "slick," also this isn't even the newest version of the 2tb Green from western digital that one is the WD20EZRX

faizoff 01-09-2013 06:24 PM

FYI I bought a seagate 7200 rpm drive, I hate the fact that it makes that chirping sound everytime I access the drive. It powers down to save energy or some garbage but in the end just annoys the crap out of me. That experience has really turned me off 7200 rpm drives for storage/backups.

nikko11 01-09-2013 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ion Control (Post 56747718)
No, nothing wrong with 5400. If you want faster access times and higher power consumption, go with 7200 (or even 10k). If you want low power usage and don't care about access times (e.g. in an enclosure or as a second drive), 5400 is perfectly fine.

The only "junk" here is the excerpt you posted.

Exactly. The read/write speeds of this drive is much faster than the 7200 RPM drives from a few years back. If you need 7200 for some reason, go pay more and get a "Black" drive.

ursus 01-09-2013 06:35 PM

I had 3 of these, 2 still working in NAS, one died. I bought one year ago for the same price, and I dont think that this year it is a good price. I suggest waiting for 3TB deals. First purchase I made was in 2011 and I paid 86.99 (tigerdirect deals). I think it is a really old drive to be sold at such price, it was released in mid-2011.

faizoff 01-09-2013 06:50 PM

I'll still get a 3 TB drive when it comes as a deal. I'm still kicking myself for not grabbing the $90-100 seagate one when it came.

Thunderpants 01-09-2013 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by faizoff (Post 56748704)
I'll still get a 3 TB drive when it comes as a deal. I'm still kicking myself for not grabbing the $90-100 seagate one when it came.

Yeah this price is only decent. Got 2 of those 3TB Seagates around Black Friday and tested them good before actually putting data on them. So far so good. Also would like to add that the number of platters and platter density is more important than rotational speed. A newer drive at a slower speed with less platters or greater platter density can be as fast or faster in accessing data than a 7200 from years ago.

sumrtym 01-09-2013 08:16 PM

As I understand it, you have to use some software to make these green drives keep from burning out. They have some insane default setting that causes the heads to park after 8 seconds of idle time. Without changing that through the utility WD made available, you can burn through the lifetime head parks of the drive killing it prematurely.

http://www.ngohq.com/news/19805-c...-hdds.html

dalilfob 01-09-2013 08:28 PM

For casual gaming, would this be better of a deal than the 500GB black version? (performance & durability wise, don't talk about storage capacity)

loligagger2.2 01-09-2013 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ion Control (Post 56747718)
No, nothing wrong with 5400. If you want faster access times and higher power consumption, go with 7200 (or even 10k). If you want low power usage and don't care about access times (e.g. in an enclosure or as a second drive), 5400 is perfectly fine.


The only "junk" here is the excerpt you posted.

Whatever man. everyone has preferences. You can get for 99.99 or some times 89.99 a 7200 rpm 2 TB HDD. Why settle for less. and the junk was in referance to the "green" terminology to cover up low performance issues.

avhokie 01-09-2013 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loligagger2.2 (Post 56751710)
Whatever man. everyone has preferences. You can get for 99.99 or some times 89.99 a 7200 rpm 2 TB HDD. Why settle for less. and the junk was in referance to the "green" terminology to cover up low performance issues.


Because you often don't want 7200rpm for secondary data drives.

sumrtym 01-09-2013 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dalilfob (Post 56750622)
For casual gaming, would this be better of a deal than the 500GB black version? (performance & durability wise, don't talk about storage capacity)

For gaming, no. You want a 7200 rpm drive like the black for that. Durability of the greens is questionable due to the intellipark implementation without user intervention to change it. Personally, for storage and a PVR drive in an HTPC, I went with Reds (although those suffer from their own marketing bs).

dalilfob 01-09-2013 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sumrtym (Post 56752200)
For gaming, no. You want a 7200 rpm drive like the black for that. Durability of the greens is questionable due to the intellipark implementation without user intervention to change it. Personally, for storage and a PVR drive in an HTPC, I went with Reds (although those suffer from their own marketing bs).

I see, yeah I just ordered the 500GB Black one since I don't need much of a storage, so I figure 500GB is enough to install games :D

bigmace 01-09-2013 10:35 PM

Why are so many people bashing green drives. Obviously you don't want to use these as an OS drive. Thats what SSDs are for nowdays. But I have 4x 1tb and 2x 2tb wd green drives in my htpc. All but one passed there 3 year warranty and all running strong.

jaydubya 01-09-2013 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sumrtym (Post 56750406)
As I understand it, you have to use some software to make these green drives keep from burning out. They have some insane default setting that causes the heads to park after 8 seconds of idle time. Without changing that through the utility WD made available, you can burn through the lifetime head parks of the drive killing it prematurely.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sumrtym (Post 56752200)
For gaming, no. You want a 7200 rpm drive like the black for that. Durability of the greens is questionable due to the intellipark implementation without user intervention to change it. Personally, for storage and a PVR drive in an HTPC, I went with Reds (although those suffer from their own marketing bs).

Just n.b., there is conflicting info out there as to whether this applies to the newest (SATA III) drives.

This WD support article [custhelp.com] indicates that this affects SATA II drives, but makes no mention of SATA III drives.

This post [lime-technology.com] (reply #5) seems to indicate that it doesn't affect drives newer than the EARS SATA II series.

On the other hand, this blog posting [wordpress.com] would imply that this problem is still applicable to the newer drives.

Regardless, it would probably be prudent to monitor the SMART attribute 193 and be willing to apply the WDIdle3 fix if the drive seems to be parking too frequently--or just apply the fix prophylatically.

asaberan 01-10-2013 07:03 AM

Amazon often has the Seagate 2TB drive (ST2000DM001) for $89.99. That's a 7200 RPM drive and apparently doesn't suffer from this "Intellipark" nonsense. That said, it has it's own set of issues as well (some are 2 platter, some are 3 platter and questionable quality control) due to the Thailand floods.

theGr81 01-10-2013 07:08 AM

been looking for a 2TB drive but the feedback is kinda scary

sneasle 01-10-2013 07:31 AM

Ya, as drive capacity has been increasing failure rates have been as well.

Back in college I co-oped with a company that build rugged storage products. I spent 2 of my rotations in the disk group working with harddrives and the results from some of the tests would have made anyone with high value data think twice about using some of these drives. Granted, this was during the period when 1TB was HUGE and SSDs were just hitting the market as CF cards mated to an IDE interface (those early SSDs were some of the least reliable devices we had ever tested...) Back then the Samsung and Hitachi drives were the most reliable (averaged across 3.5 and 2.5 drives).

Typically we saw better results with drives with fewer platters, everything else being roughly equal.

dbroncoboy 01-10-2013 07:44 AM

From what I read most reliability concerns come from the contant head parking which wears out the drive.

The head parking can be turned from 7 seconds to 200 seconds (i think its 200) with a little work. If you are mildly tech savy there are multiple articles detailing the procedure. (It took me about 5 minutes)

Heres a link to intstructions about how to fix it:
http://www.storagereview.com/how_...th_wdidle3

faizoff 01-10-2013 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asaberan (Post 56756260)
Amazon often has the Seagate 2TB drive (ST2000DM001) for $89.99. That's a 7200 RPM drive and apparently doesn't suffer from this "Intellipark" nonsense. That said, it has it's own set of issues as well (some are 2 platter, some are 3 platter and questionable quality control) due to the Thailand floods.

I have this drive and the parking on it drive me nuts as every time it spins up, it makes this annoying chirping noise and happens very often.

Also there is no easy way to turn off the parking. Its one of the most annoying things any HDD mfg can make.

godsfshrmn 01-10-2013 08:08 AM

Is power saving the only reason to enable head parking or does it affect the life span as well?

dbroncoboy 01-10-2013 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by godsfshrmn (Post 56757678)
Is power saving the only reason to enable head parking or does it affect the life span as well?

From my understanding head parking actually shortens the lifespan. A hard drive only has a certain number of load cycles in its lifespan. Everytime the head is parked it uses one of those cycles. Thats why people are disabling it.

This is my understanding at least.

polyphenus 01-10-2013 08:34 AM

Buy at your own risk. I had a Green 2TB go wonky on me with very little use. I'm talking maybe a couple of hours of use, total.

faizoff 01-13-2013 12:27 PM

So I'm having weird issues with this 2 TB WD Green drive. It may be my ports or cables or something. When connecting this drive via USB files copy and transfer just fine no hiccups, just a slower speed. But connecting it to a SATA II port makes it go wonky, freezes the computer every min for about 5 secs. Going to try out all the ports and see. From what I've read so far my drive already has intellipark disabled.

Will experiment more.

dsides 01-13-2013 12:45 PM

Man, what is the deal with hard drive prices. I bought a 2TB Hitachi a year and a half ago for $59.99 shipped.

faizoff 01-13-2013 06:57 PM

I plugged my drive to my SATA III port and now it works just fine. Glad that worked out.

gamerdude72 02-08-2013 01:00 PM

Fail thread OP. The coupon code is invalid.


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