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sr71 01-16-2013 02:38 AM

LG 42LM3400 42" Class 1080p 3D LED TV $399 Free Ship @Frys
 
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http://www.frys.com/product/7506206

Two day sale item

Edit: pricing still avail as of Fri 1/25 AM

iconian 01-16-2013 02:38 AM

42" LG 42LM3400 1080p 3D LED HDTV + 4x 3D Glasses $399 + Free shipping
 
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Fry's has 42" LG 42LM3400 1080p 3D LED HDTV + 4x 3D Glasses for $399 + free shipping. Thanks sr71

Specs:
  • Resolution: 1920x1080
  • Contrast Ratio: 3,000,000:1
  • Tuners: ATSC/NTSC/Clear QAM
  • Inputs:
    • 2x HDMI
    • 1x Component
    • 1x Headphone
    • 1x USB
Price Research: Our research indicates that 42" LG 42LM3400 1080p 3D LED HDTV is $100 lower (20% savings) than the next best available price from a reputable merchant with prices starting at $499 -iconian

yuugotserved 01-16-2013 02:38 AM

42" LG 42LM3400 1080p 3D LED HDTV + 4x 3D Glasses $399 + Free Shipping
 
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Update: Available again. Thanks sp3cialbrownie

Fry's has 42" LG 42LM3400 1080p 3D LED HDTV + 4x 3D Glasses for $399 + free shipping. Thanks sr71

Specs:
  • Resolution: 1920x1080
  • Contrast Ratio: 3,000,000:1
  • Tuners: ATSC/NTSC/Clear QAM
  • Inputs:
    • 2x HDMI
    • 1x Component
    • 1x Headphone
    • 1x USB

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kulardenu 01-16-2013 03:34 AM

Is there anyone who price matches Fry's? Want to use PayPal instead of CC.

sr71 01-16-2013 04:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kulardenu (Post 56882124)
Is there anyone who price matches Fry's? Want to use PayPal instead of CC.

Amazon typically does, but guess that doesn't help your situation, BBuy might

mprayii 01-16-2013 05:29 AM

60hz. if you are a hertz hater.

weymouthba 01-16-2013 05:53 AM

I think it's one of those 'fake' 3D sets since it's only 60hz.

cobjones 01-16-2013 05:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by weymouthba (Post 56882736)
I think it's one of those 'fake' 3D sets since it's only 60hz.

This I'd passive, not active, so it's real... Plus all source material is 60hz unless it's a computer.

sarcean 01-16-2013 06:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by weymouthba (Post 56882736)
I think it's one of those 'fake' 3D sets since it's only 60hz.

60hz is absolutely fine on passive 3d

onurx 01-16-2013 07:56 AM

if this was a smart tv I would be all over it

z9z91 01-16-2013 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onurx (Post 56884596)
if this was a smart tv I would be all over it

So this is a stupid tv then?

magicfame 01-16-2013 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onurx (Post 56884596)
if this was a smart tv I would be all over it

If this was a 55 inch oled tv, I'll be all over it.

joemama44 01-16-2013 09:44 AM

I recently got one. only 2 hdmi ports and 1 composite/component, you can only use one at a time, inputs. It does have a usb that can play videos files as long as its not avi format lol. I wish the black levels were better as I can see the led back light shine through when playing games. The 3d glasses you get for free at the theaters work perfectly fine and feel better then the cheapos lg throws in for free. Be aware this is not an LED tv. it is 3inch thick. It is an LCD with and LED backlight that controls the brightness. This tv doesnt have a lot of bells and whistles besides 3d and 2d to 3d conversion. I personally dont find the 3d effects on this tv mindblowing like on other sets I have used, but those were active 3d tv. Make sure you mount this tv high enough to where the viewer is eye level with the center of the screen or else you will see crosstalk-ghosting of images in 3D. Also dual play is horrible. I have tried every position possible to get it so you cant see the other players screen on COD and other games but it doesnt work.

GhostShaDoW 01-16-2013 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cobjones (Post 56882762)
This I'd passive, not active, so it's real... Plus all source material is 60hz unless it's a computer.

Unless it's a movie...or tv show...

cobjones 01-16-2013 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GhostShaDoW (Post 56894546)
Unless it's a movie...or tv show...

Please check your source from your cable box, bluray or satellite box.

They only send 60hz. 120 and up only duplicate those signals.

akbisw 01-16-2013 04:55 PM

So guys help me out should I get this one? or
this http://www.frys.com/product/7284873 coby 39" for $280

and this is a direct led tv. So what Im I missing compared to en edge lit led or other leds?

neli_nael 01-16-2013 06:04 PM

Should I wait for super bowl deals?

MOkoFOko 01-16-2013 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by akbisw (Post 56898634)
So guys help me out should I get this one? or
this http://www.frys.com/product/7284873 coby 39" for $280

and this is a direct led tv. So what Im I missing compared to en edge lit led or other leds?

The coby is not a 3D telly--if all you want is a cheap set, then there are plenty of cheap deals out there.

xChanX 01-16-2013 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by akbisw (Post 56898634)
So guys help me out should I get this one? or
this http://www.frys.com/product/7284873 coby 39" for $280

and this is a direct led tv. So what Im I missing compared to en edge lit led or other leds?

no point on a no-brand/crappy brand tv. pretty much throwing your money down the drain

pacaveli420 01-16-2013 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cobjones (Post 56894648)
Please check your source from your cable box, bluray or satellite box.

They only send 60hz. 120 and up only duplicate those signals.

Movies are generally 24fps and almost all current bluray players will send a 24hz/fps signal instead of a 60

Kemo 01-16-2013 06:14 PM

No audio outputs. Doesnot play movies on USB flash drives!

cobjones 01-16-2013 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pacaveli420 (Post 56900040)
Movies are generally 24fps and almost all current bluray players will send a 24hz/fps signal instead of a 60

My point was nothing higher than 60hz.

golakers 01-16-2013 06:19 PM

is this 60 or 120Hz? if 120 then its a great deal.. 60? not so much

GoldenRat 01-16-2013 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joemama44 (Post 56887220)
I recently got one. only 2 hdmi ports and 1 composite/component, you can only use one at a time, inputs. It does have a usb that can play videos files as long as its not avi format lol. I wish the black levels were better as I can see the led back light shine through when playing games. The 3d glasses you get for free at the theaters work perfectly fine and feel better then the cheapos lg throws in for free. Be aware this is not an LED tv. it is 3inch thick. It is an LCD with and LED backlight that controls the brightness. This tv doesnt have a lot of bells and whistles besides 3d and 2d to 3d conversion. I personally dont find the 3d effects on this tv mindblowing like on other sets I have used, but those were active 3d tv. Make sure you mount this tv high enough to where the viewer is eye level with the center of the screen or else you will see crosstalk-ghosting of images in 3D. Also dual play is horrible. I have tried every position possible to get it so you cant see the other players screen on COD and other games but it doesnt work.

There is no such thing as an "LED TV". It's either an LED backlit LCD TV or an CFL backlit LCD TV.

Deftonian 01-16-2013 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onurx (Post 56884596)
if this was a smart tv I would be all over it

Quote:

Originally Posted by magicfame (Post 56885596)
If this was a 55 inch oled tv, I'll be all over it.

If this was a 120", Ultra HD (4k), 480hz TV, I'd be all over it.

......... this "if" game could go on forever.....

chomdh 01-16-2013 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deftonian (Post 56900242)
If this was a 120", Ultra HD (4k), 480hz TV, I'd be all over it.

......... this "if" game could go on forever.....

If this were everything you listed there's no way you'd get a slick deal on it because that's the all the latest technology.

spydersdeals69 01-16-2013 06:32 PM

IF...there were anything ever made in 3D other than Avatar, Tangled, and that one iMax film that were any good, I'd consider it.

sdfan567 01-16-2013 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldenRat (Post 56900232)
There is no such thing as an "LED TV". It's either an LED backlit LCD TV or an CFL backlit LCD TV.

Edge lit LEDs TVs are thinner than backlit - so look sleeker and cost more ; thats what the poster was getting at

slosha69 01-16-2013 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GhostShaDoW (Post 56894546)
Unless it's a movie...or tv show...

You have no idea what you're talking about, sorry.

TheRealVassago 01-16-2013 06:38 PM

Still the truth!

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2...206,00.asp

And this is a GREAT deal for what it is. I wouldn't use it as my main tv, but for a bedroom tv, it's more than good enough.

sr71 01-16-2013 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kemo (Post 56900066)
No audio outputs. Doesnot play movies on USB flash drives!

see below in blue

Quote:

Originally Posted by joemama44 (Post 56887220)
I recently got one. only 2 hdmi ports and 1 composite/component, you can only use one at a time, inputs. It does have a usb that can play videos files as long as its not avi format lol. I wish the black levels were better as I can see the led back light shine through when playing games. The 3d glasses you get for free at the theaters work perfectly fine and feel better then the cheapos lg throws in for free. Be aware this is not an LED tv. it is 3inch thick. It is an LCD with and LED backlight that controls the brightness.

LED TV => LED backlit or edge lit :wave:

TheFrugalOne 01-16-2013 06:44 PM

Thanks OP, repped. Seems like a solid bed room TV. Found a translated review. Seems like it can handle mkv's off of a USB drive

http://translate.google.com/trans...2lm3400%2F

Also alot of reviews on Amazon.uk
http://www.amazon.co.uk/product-r...ewpoints=1

antifan 01-16-2013 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sr71 (Post 56900524)
see below in blue

LED TV => LED backlit or edge lit :wave:

What exactly do you think an led tv is?

Mortabo 01-16-2013 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kulardenu (Post 56882124)
Is there anyone who price matches Fry's? Want to use PayPal instead of CC.

Sears does if you have one local in stock.

ParticleJG 01-16-2013 07:04 PM

Wasnt this deal live 2 weeks ago?

Did Frys pay their SD bill this month? :lol:

akh1989 01-16-2013 07:05 PM

yes, this has been going on for a while now :O

sljr101 01-16-2013 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by antifan (Post 56900760)
What exactly do you think an led tv is?

well someone mentioned an oled tv on the first page as a joke. oled is something used in a lot of samsung phones, where the short story is that each pixel is independently lit up. so black colors are even darker since those pixels aren't lit up..whereas in a edgelit/backlit led panel, every pixel is lit up, including the black ones.

mike2c 01-16-2013 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by magicfame (Post 56885596)
If this was a 55 inch oled tv, I'll be all over it.

If this was a super model I'd be all over it....

miichuu 01-16-2013 07:09 PM

brought this last thurs from frys and arrived yesterday (ny) via ground shipping

turnne 01-16-2013 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joemama44 (Post 56887220)
I recently got one. only 2 hdmi ports and 1 composite/component, you can only use one at a time, inputs. It does have a usb that can play videos files as long as its not avi format lol. I wish the black levels were better as I can see the led back light shine through when playing games. The 3d glasses you get for free at the theaters work perfectly fine and feel better then the cheapos lg throws in for free. Be aware this is not an LED tv. it is 3inch thick. It is an LCD with and LED backlight that controls the brightness. This tv doesnt have a lot of bells and whistles besides 3d and 2d to 3d conversion. I personally dont find the 3d effects on this tv mindblowing like on other sets I have used, but those were active 3d tv. Make sure you mount this tv high enough to where the viewer is eye level with the center of the screen or else you will see crosstalk-ghosting of images in 3D. Also dual play is horrible. I have tried every position possible to get it so you cant see the other players screen on COD and other games but it doesnt work.

and its an 42" LG for $399
so..really for $399...should there be a really high expectation?

Its 60hz..however it been proven that even though LG labels many of their sets 120hz..its actually a 60hz panel with a scanning backlight ..and therefore simulated 120hz

As for 3D...its only 540p
to my eyes its looks softer and jagged on the edges vs active 3D
The glasses are cheap and its great for kids
But..really ..if you are discriminating buyer who looks at details are you really looking at a $399 TV of this size...to that end are you really looking for an LG TV

or....are you better served at the Samsung or Panasonic display areas?
granted..more money

But still...you really kinda get what you pay for

sr71 01-16-2013 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by antifan (Post 56900760)
What exactly do you think an led tv is?

It was a direct response to
Quote:

Be aware this is not an LED tv. it is 3inch thick. It is an LCD with and LED backlight that controls the brightness.
did you read that part?

Baddogdaddy 01-16-2013 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by turnne (Post 56901004)
and its an 42" LG for $399
so..really for $399...should there be a really high expectation?

Its 60hz..however it been proven that even though LG labels many of their sets 120hz..its actually a 60hz panel with a scanning backlight ..and therefore simulated 120hz

As for 3D...its only 540p
to my eyes its looks softer and jagged on the edges vs active 3D
The glasses are cheap and its great for kids
But..really ..if you are discriminating buyer who looks at details are you really looking at a $399 TV of this size...to that end are you really looking for an LG TV

or....are you better served at the Samsung or Panasonic display areas?
granted..more money

But still...you really kinda get what you pay for

Thanks for that post. I was about to grab one on impulse until I read what you wrote. I think I'm just going to wait for a solid deal on a 55" 3d I have an 11 year old 46" Sony rear projection 1080 taking up a ton of real estate in my living room. It has a great picture and just won't die. I want something ill be happy with.

FunGuy 01-16-2013 07:55 PM

This is a good deal but not great! I am going to wait for super bowl deals!

ArmchairQB 01-16-2013 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cobjones (Post 56882762)
This I'd passive, not active, so it's real... Plus all source material is 60hz unless it's a computer.

with a Bluray drive on a computer can you get 3D on this set?

wyo_vr4 01-16-2013 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheRealVassago (Post 56900474)
Still the truth!

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2...206,00.asp

And this is a GREAT deal for what it is. I wouldn't use it as my main tv, but for a bedroom tv, it's more than good enough.

Good article. Refresh rates > 60Hz is a marketing gimmick and may actually make the picture worse.

cobjones 01-16-2013 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArmchairQB (Post 56901940)
with a Bluray drive on a computer can you get 3D on this set?

Yes, if you have 3-d software player..

bigboar 01-16-2013 08:29 PM

as someone who has owned this set for a week now, i can say this is a great deal! even though i dont understand it going frontpage now when i bought it two weeks ago for the same price:D. heck, it was this price when it went frontpage from walmart at $419:lmao:

animeorb 01-16-2013 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cobjones (Post 56902276)
Yes, if you have 3-d software player..

and a 3D compatible graphics card or integrated graphics

anhxeom 01-16-2013 08:36 PM

FYI..

This is not a slim TV. It's about 3" thick if that matters to you.

SomeDooD123 01-16-2013 08:57 PM

No audio out... darn.

dubleo 01-16-2013 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigboar (Post 56902410)
as someone who has owned this set for a week now, i can say this is a great deal! even though i dont understand it going frontpage now when i bought it two weeks ago for the same price:D. heck, it was this price when it went frontpage from walmart at $419:lmao:

8 bit IPS panel or an 8 bit VA panel?

rahd001 01-16-2013 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by golakers (Post 56900164)
is this 60 or 120Hz? if 120 then its a great deal.. 60? not so much

Seriously? lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by onurx (Post 56884596)
if this was a smart tv I would be all over it

If this was $299, 60", and 120Hz, I would be all over it.

rahd001 01-16-2013 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SomeDooD123 (Post 56902844)
No audio out... darn.

You don't realize how tough that is until you're staring it in the face. I feel your pain.

ray03ny 01-16-2013 09:54 PM

It's only letting me choose store pickup.

ryano6380 01-16-2013 11:04 PM

Audio output
 
I bought this last week and it does have digital optical out (Toslink).

ryano6380 01-16-2013 11:07 PM

I bought this tv at Frys for my bedroom and I have no issues. It does have a digital optical out (TOSLINK) for those asking about audio out.

CaliforniaNavel 01-16-2013 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wyo_vr4 (Post 56902224)
Quote from TheRealVassago :Still the truth!

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2...206,00.asp

And this is a GREAT deal for what it is. I wouldn't use it as my main tv, but for a bedroom tv, it's more than good enough.





Good article. Refresh rates > 60Hz is a marketing gimmick and may actually make the picture worse.

Its only a gimmick if you dont know how to use it correctly. The difference is glaringly obvious if you watch sports. I cant watch them in 60. 240 or bust. Tv and movies tho you have to set the right 240 or yes they look funky.

GrandmasterBBC 01-17-2013 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheRealVassago (Post 56900474)
Still the truth!

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2...206,00.asp

And this is a GREAT deal for what it is. I wouldn't use it as my main tv, but for a bedroom tv, it's more than good enough.

A very interesting article. I think the point here is that a 60Hz TV should not be so quickly discounted. For most people, they will not be dissapointed with the refresh rate. From my experience, I agree that 120 Hz sets can make some video look a little funky.

halogod2 01-17-2013 03:34 AM

I got this TV. I would rather save some money to get IPS.

GhostShaDoW 01-17-2013 03:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cobjones (Post 56894648)
Please check your source from your cable box, bluray or satellite box.

They only send 60hz. 120 and up only duplicate those signals.

Quote:

Originally Posted by slosha69 (Post 56900432)
You have no idea what you're talking about, sorry.

Have you heard of 23.976 fps ???
Saying 120hz makes no difference is simply incorrect.
Please do some research on frame rates before you put out incorrect information to others.
Please buy a 120hz TV, and actually use it before you provide anymore information that is simply incorrect.

pkpraj 01-17-2013 06:25 AM

Does any one know what's the input voltage range? Is it just 120V or 120-240V? I am thinking if I can take it and use in my home country.

abhinahi 01-17-2013 07:29 AM

Both Active and Passive 3D TVs effectively half the refresh rate while displaying 3D content. for 60Hz TV the effective refresh rate for 3D would be 30Hz

http://stijndewitt.wordpress.com/...e-3d-myth/

burticus 01-17-2013 07:42 AM

People who want analog audio out.... what, this thing doesn't have a headphone jack?

Thinking about one of these for the bedroom, and I could give a rats ass about 3D.

edit : well the manual makes zero mention of a headphone jack, and in fact says to use the optical output for a sound bar. Sad.

http://www.lg.com/us/support-prod...-42LM3400#

clearanceman 01-17-2013 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onurx (Post 56884596)
if this was a smart tv I would be all over it

You can't buy a $30 blu ray player that has that stuff?

rockmo 01-17-2013 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jhaan2 (Post 56905146)
Its only a gimmick if you dont know how to use it correctly. The difference is glaringly obvious if you watch sports. I cant watch them in 60. 240 or bust. Tv and movies tho you have to set the right 240 or yes they look funky.


Glaringly? That's a stretch. I have a 46" Samsung (died in two years) and a 42" Panny and both are 60hz. I watch a lot of sports and rarely seeing any motion blur. Yes, i'd rather have 120hz, and I will when I upgrade, but at this price point I think the average user shouldn't be too concerned.

FrankTheCrank 01-17-2013 08:24 AM

I think this is a great price for what it is. Still can't pull the trigger on 1080P passive 3D sets.

Even though the 3D effect is good, not as dark and doesn't induce headaches, the resolution gets halved to 540P. It's not true 1080P. And you notice it too, a ton of jaggies. For some, it doesn't matter. Hell, most people watch SD on their HD's.

I'll still take a 1080P FULL HD 3D Active display over a Passive 3D "1080P" set.

When 4K drops, passive FULL HD 1080P stuff will be a reality and will blow away active 3D technology. That's probably 3-4 years away (when it becomes very affordable).

CaliforniaNavel 01-17-2013 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockmo (Post 56909254)
Quote from jhaan2 :Its only a gimmick if you dont know how to use it correctly. The difference is glaringly obvious if you watch sports. I cant watch them in 60. 240 or bust. Tv and movies tho you have to set the right 240 or yes they look funky.






Glaringly? That's a stretch. I have a 46" Samsung (died in two years) and a 42" Panny and both are 60hz. I watch a lot of sports and rarely seeing any motion blur. Yes, i'd rather have 120hz, and I will when I upgrade, but at this price point I think the average user shouldn't be too concerned.

I have a samsung 240. When i turn it off i can see the blur on sports, and especially on the espn scroll bar. I use smooth 240 for sports, but that mode jacks up tv and video. Clear 240 mode works fine for those tho...As does turning it off (60). Incidentally, the article in question only refers to tv and movies, not sports, so it is not a complete analysis of this technology. But i totally agree, at 399, just be happy to have HD. My last Sd 32inch set cost over 300...years ago. tVs are so damn cheap now!

chuggyboy 01-17-2013 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joemama44 (Post 56887220)
I recently got one. only 2 hdmi ports and 1 composite/component, you can only use one at a time, inputs. It does have a usb that can play videos files as long as its not avi format lol. I wish the black levels were better as I can see the led back light shine through when playing games. The 3d glasses you get for free at the theaters work perfectly fine and feel better then the cheapos lg throws in for free. Be aware this is not an LED tv. it is 3inch thick. It is an LCD with and LED backlight that controls the brightness. This tv doesnt have a lot of bells and whistles besides 3d and 2d to 3d conversion. I personally dont find the 3d effects on this tv mindblowing like on other sets I have used, but those were active 3d tv. Make sure you mount this tv high enough to where the viewer is eye level with the center of the screen or else you will see crosstalk-ghosting of images in 3D. Also dual play is horrible. I have tried every position possible to get it so you cant see the other players screen on COD and other games but it doesnt work.

Very nice review, good information... Thanks for sharing, this is exactly the information I look for when I see these deals... Props to u...

avidshopper 01-17-2013 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sljr101 (Post 56900952)
well someone mentioned an oled tv on the first page as a joke. oled is something used in a lot of samsung phones, where the short story is that each pixel is independently lit up. so black colors are even darker since those pixels aren't lit up..whereas in a edgelit/backlit led panel, every pixel is lit up, including the black ones.

Yes and no.

You are right to say that every pixel lights up for OLED panel (as well as Plasma panel.) LCD is different. Each pixel changes color but doesn't light up. The backlight shines through and the pixel filters that light to provides you with a visible color dot. Think of the LCD panel as translucent where pixels change color but require backlight to provide a visible image. Have you ever had a LCD panel with the backlight out? You would see very little. Also, do not confuse yourself with LCD watches in which you can see perfectly without backlight. Those are called reflective LCD display where it borrows light shining on the LCD surface. LCD TV requires light from the back (light source is usually from the side but uniformly distributed to the back of the LCD with a sheet of reflective material.)

There are two types of LED backlight: the cheaper version is edge-lit, which works similarly to those non-LED light source (using very thin and long fluorescent light tubes.) The more expensive version of LED TV is back-lit where a matrix of LEDs cover the back of the LCD display. With this technology, each LED can be turned on or off depending on an area of the scene, and therefore it can provide deeper black. Note that each LED doesn't light up one pixel, but rather a small area of many pixels.

Perhaps the one thing that irks me the most is when people refer to LED-lit TV as LED TV (so do the marketing folks.) Worse is when they specifically say they do not want an LCD TV, but an LED TV. In reality, there is no LED TV per-se (unless you are referring to outdoor display where a cluster of red, green and blue LEDs make up a display pixel). For your living room, LED or not, they are all LCD panels (excluding plasma in this discussion.) The LED just makes up the backlight, that's all.

I would encourage anyone who wants to learn more to visit reputable forums on AV topics.

Zipsort 01-17-2013 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joemama44 (Post 56887220)
Be aware this is not an LED tv. it is 3inch thick. It is an LCD with and LED backlight that controls the brightness.

Just a heads up for you and others.

There is no such thing as an LED TV. They are ALL LCD panels. The only difference would be either LED light source of CCFL light source (flourescent)

So yes, this is an "led TV" because its led backlit instead of classic CCFL.

:wave:

orijin 01-17-2013 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrandmasterBBC (Post 56905934)
A very interesting article. I think the point here is that a 60Hz TV should not be so quickly discounted. For most people, they will not be dissapointed with the refresh rate. From my experience, I agree that 120 Hz sets can make some video look a little funky.

It's cause you have been buying an emulated 120hz tv, natural 120hz tv that can emulate to anything higher is a real 120hz television. 120hz without motion simulation is a 120hz panel that will not give you a soap opera effect on movies.

Lg unfortunately uses on every single tv before the lm8600 simulated 240hz or simulated 120hz I'm not shitting on this tv as this is a great deal but you guys are so misinformed.

Simulated motion will always give you that soap opera effect. A 55" tv that would give you real 240hz without the soap opera effect is currently I believe the Sony 55hx750 at 1499.99 it was 1349.99 during Black Friday though.

You get what you pay for guys but this tv is a not a bad tv for someone wanting to save money.

wizzards581 01-17-2013 11:07 AM

still thinking, this one or the 39" samsung @ walmart for $398, Model#: UN39EH5003FXZA. looking for upgrade for the bedroom around the $400 range.

ontwowheels 01-17-2013 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by golakers (Post 56900164)
is this 60 or 120Hz? if 120 then its a great deal.. 60? not so much

It's a 60....so not so much....

bommai 01-17-2013 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cobjones (Post 56894648)
Please check your source from your cable box, bluray or satellite box.

They only send 60hz. 120 and up only duplicate those signals.

Bluray movies are natively 24Hz. So, they have to do telecine conversion to get it to 60Hz. I prefer 24Hz raw. My projector accepts that.

yashi 01-17-2013 05:44 PM

In for one. I needed a cheap TV for the bedroom and this fit the bill perfectly.

robstalobsta 01-17-2013 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spydersdeals69 (Post 56900368)
IF...there were anything ever made in 3D other than Avatar, Tangled, and that one iMax film that were any good, I'd consider it.

Watch the Hobbit, and then realize there are still two more to come...

pk709394 01-17-2013 10:07 PM

This is a great TV, I had it for a month now. I bough it when it was on sale the same price at walmart like a month ago. I have been using this as a computer monitor. It is great for computer or tv use. This TV has H Sharpness & V Sharpness setting, which you can adjust to give clear font to use as a computer monitor.

tazeat 01-17-2013 11:44 PM

Just got the LG 47LM4600 47" LED 3d for $550 at frys last week, so far love the thing, looks great, have actually really enjoyed the 3d too.

thetimmy 01-18-2013 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kemo (Post 56900066)
No audio outputs. Doesnot play movies on USB flash drives!

That kills it for me, the 40in Element i got at Target for $270 has Digital & Stereo out, and they output on both signals all the time, so I can connect my surround sound for company and wireless headphones when company is sleeping.

I would love to return that and get a brand name tv, but why add features like 3D and drop necessary features, like audio out?

IndigoMoss 01-18-2013 03:50 PM

Nevermind, this is the wrong post.

astraleo 01-19-2013 12:36 AM

Will this LG 42LM3400 be on sale at Fry's again soon?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ParticleJG (Post 56900912)
Wasnt this deal live 2 weeks ago?

Did Frys pay their SD bill this month? :lol:


Quote:

Originally Posted by akh1989 (Post 56900930)
yes, this has been going on for a while now :O


I bought this TV yesterday. :) Haven't set it up yet, but I got it for a bedroom, and I'm not too worried about the lack of features. I was primarily interested in the 3D feature, and the price was extremely reasonable for a 3D TV, regardless of the brand. (My wife and I were pleasantly surprised by the 3D experience on our main TV. It was better than we had expected. And there's always regular 2D if you don't like the 3D efffect. I've started to acquire 3D versions whenever possible, so I thought it'd be nice to have one in the bedroom.)

Yes, this deal has been going off and on for a couple/few weeks now. They listed it differently over that period, and they only revealed the actual price on one of their limited duration sale ads. (I can't recall if it was a 1 day or a 2 day sale.) I was surprised to see them run the exact same ad two weeks in a row. I check the Fry's ads daily, and they almost never do that.

But I realized last week they were likely to do something with these TVs when I had them check stock last Thursday (the day before their weekly sale prices expire), and they showed all of the other 6 local stores--except the one I went to which was sold out; go figure--had 50-90 of these in stock. When I got the supervisor to issue a raincheck, he mentioned they were expecting a large shipment at the store I visited in two days. When I see stock like that, I know something's up. And sure enough, they ran the exact same ad last week. I didn't even need the raincheck. Oh, well...

However, when I actually got around to picking up the TV a week later (yesterday, Thursday), there was a big notice to the sales staff in their quote system saying to let customers know that yesterday would definitely be the last day this would be on sale. That's the first time I've ever seen that particular note, so I'm curious as to what Fry's plans for their overstock of this TV is. I imagine the note was just to be sure customers who were interested would pull the trigger yesterday and not expect it to be on sale this week, which it's not--at least as the Friday ad shows.

They still have huge stock levels of both this model and the larger (55") version of this TV. I imagine it'll go back on sale at some point in the near future. I wonder if it'll be even cheaper soon. :confused:

ParticleJG 01-19-2013 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by astraleo (Post 56954920)
I bought this TV yesterday. :) Haven't set it up yet, but I got it for a bedroom, and I'm not too worried about the lack of features. I was primarily interested in the 3D feature, and the price was extremely reasonable for a 3D TV, regardless of the brand. (My wife and I were pleasantly surprised by the 3D experience on our main TV. It was better than we had expected. And there's always regular 2D if you don't like the 3D efffect. I've started to acquire 3D versions whenever possible, so I thought it'd be nice to have one in the bedroom.)

Yes, this deal has been going off and on for a couple/few weeks now. They listed it differently over that period, and they only revealed the actual price on one of their limited duration sale ads. (I can't recall if it was a 1 day or a 2 day sale.) I was surprised to see them run the exact same ad two weeks in a row. I check the Fry's ads daily, and they almost never do that.

But I realized last week they were likely to do something with these TVs when I had them check stock last Thursday (the day before their weekly sale prices expire), and they showed all of the other 6 local stores--except the one I went to which was sold out; go figure--had 50-90 of these in stock. When I got the supervisor to issue a raincheck, he mentioned they were expecting a large shipment at the store I visited in two days. When I see stock like that, I know something's up. And sure enough, they ran the exact same ad last week. I didn't even need the raincheck. Oh, well...

However, when I actually got around to picking up the TV a week later (yesterday, Thursday), there was a big notice to the sales staff in their quote system saying to let customers know that yesterday would definitely be the last day this would be on sale. That's the first time I've ever seen that particular note, so I'm curious as to what Fry's plans for their overstock of this TV is. I imagine the note was just to be sure customers who were interested would pull the trigger yesterday and not expect it to be on sale this week, which it's not--at least as the Friday ad shows.

They still have huge stock levels of both this model and the larger (55") version of this TV. I imagine it'll go back on sale at some point in the near future. I wonder if it'll be even cheaper soon. :confused:

I bet it will be cheaper. Frys usually does this in put the TV in the ad and any overstock hang onto for another month to really blow them out. (I bet late February, early March you see these at $350-$375).

sr71 01-19-2013 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by astraleo (Post 56954920)

However, when I actually got around to picking up the TV a week later (yesterday, Thursday), there was a big notice to the sales staff in their quote system saying to let customers know that yesterday would definitely be the last day this would be on sale.

They still have huge stock levels of both this model and the larger (55") version of this TV. I imagine it'll go back on sale at some point in the near future. I wonder if it'll be even cheaper soon. :confused:

looks like they lied, shocking I know - but yeah like most electronics stores they'll prob clear out inventory until Pres Day

rocknrollohio 01-19-2013 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onurx (Post 56884596)
if this was a smart tv I would be all over it

If it were free I be in for three

patrocle 01-19-2013 05:30 PM

this here:

LG 47LM4600 47" Class (46.9" Actual Diagonal Size) 1080p 120Hz 3D LED TV with 4 Pairs of 3D Glasses [frys.com]
is 549$. at frys.

Lanmanna 01-19-2013 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onurx (Post 56884596)
if this was a smart tv I would be all over it

No need for me since I have a PS3!

SolomonChen89 01-21-2013 01:29 AM

I'm confused. so with this TV can I use my receiver with my ps3 to watch 3D movies with surround sound?

paisa.paisa 01-21-2013 12:26 PM

I am sorry for a stupid question but can someone tell me if this TV supports 3D movies or does it has a feature to view anything in 3D ?

bonnner 01-22-2013 06:19 AM

3D Tv viewing is not advisable for elders and unstable health, and those who have complex eye number. I have this bad experience not getting used after removing 3D glasses Dont bargain health

joemama44 01-22-2013 01:11 PM

I am starting to notice when in 3d mode that some content is not in full screen. For example in ps3 games and some videos, when I put 3d mode on the screen will have 1/2inch black bars on the sides. And to recap, Yes you can use those free movie theater glasses on this tv.

MachuPicchu 01-22-2013 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pk709394 (Post 56929772)
This is a great TV, I had it for a month now. I bough it when it was on sale the same price at walmart like a month ago. I have been using this as a computer monitor. It is great for computer or tv use. This TV has H Sharpness & V Sharpness setting, which you can adjust to give clear font to use as a computer monitor.


How do you use this as a monitor (e.g. how far do you have to sit away from it?) I want a bigger computer monitor and your idea is wonderfully crazy.

cconklin1 01-22-2013 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by magicfame (Post 56885596)
If this was a 55 inch oled tv, I'll be all over it.

if this were a 32" oled i would be all over it...

chelo91 01-24-2013 02:24 PM

Deciding on whether I should get the 42" or 47" is only a $150 difference and the 47" is 120hz for sure, I think. You guys think these TVs are going to get cheaper any time soon? Can't decide! Also I'm reading that the 42" doesnt support any audio outputs so that means I can't use my surround system but the 47" does. Well I hope.

master999 01-25-2013 02:30 AM

42" LG 42LM3400 1080p 3D LED HDTV + 4x 3D Glasses $399 + Free shipping
 
On again....was on a 2-day sale last week...Shows in stock at both the Fry's in Orange County

Fry's has the LG 42LM3400 42" Class (42" Actual Diagonal Size) 1080p 3D LED TV
on sale for $399

Valid through 1/31

http://www.frys.com/product/75062...sa:adpages page:P1_FRI date:012513

Best Buy $499
Amazon.com $529.97

Specifications

SUMMARY
Screen Size 42"
Screen Size Diagonal 42"
Resolution 1920 x 1080p
Display Type LED
PANEL SPECIFICATIONS
Screen Size Class (diagonal) 42" Class (42.0" diagonal)
Resolution 1920 x 1080p
BLU Type Direct LED
Response Time 60Hz
Dynamic Contrast Ratio 3,000,000:1
DIMENSIONS / WEIGHT
TV without stand (WxHxD) 40.0" x 24.8" x 3.0"
TV with stand (WxHxD) 40.0" x 27.4" x 10.3"
TV without stand weight 28.9 lbs
TV with stand weight 32.4 lbs
3D SPECIFICATIONS
3D FPR (Passive)
2D to 3D Yes
VIDEO
Triple XD Engine Yes
Resolution Upscaler Yes
Picture Wizard II Yes
Just Scan (1:1 Pixel Matching) HDMI™: 1080p/1080i/720p, Component: 1080p/1080i/720p, RF: 1080i/720p
AV Mode (Picture & Sound) 4 Modes (Cinema/Sport/Game/Off)
Picture Mode 8 Modes (Intelligent Sensor/Vivid/Standard/Cinema/
AUDIO
Audio Output Power (Watts - THD 10%) 5W + 5W
Mono/Stereo/Dual (MTS/SAP) Yes
Dolby® Digital Decoder Yes
Speaker System 1 Way 2 Speakers
Virtual Surround Yes
Clear Voice II Yes
Sound Mode 5 Modes (Standard/Music/Cinema/Sport/Game)
Mute Yes
AV INPUTS/OUTPUTS
RF In (Antenna/Cable) 1 (Rear)
AV In 1 (Rear)
Component Video In(Y, Pb, Pr) + Audio 1 (Rear)
HDMI™/HDCP Input 1(Rear)
USB 2.0 1 (Side)

What's in the Box

Remote Control
AAA Batteries
Owner's Manual
Stand Body
Stand Base
Stand Screws
Protection Cover
Desk Mount Screw
Power Cord
Cinema 3D Glasses

ksm 01-25-2013 05:50 AM

Good deal! Walmart price is $428 + Tax so ends up about $453. But, Frys give you free glasses. That is a bonus. Some of us don't have to pay tax on Frys purchase.

turnne 01-25-2013 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cobjones (Post 56882762)
This I'd passive, not active, so it's real... Plus all source material is 60hz unless it's a computer.

they were probably referring to the fact that passive 3D does not give you a 1080P image

so you could only see 1080P on this TV in 2D mode

eibgrad 01-25-2013 07:09 AM

Anyone know if at least of the HDMI ports on this TV supports ARC (Audio Return Channel) [hdmi.org]? Usually one will be labeled ARC if it does, but I don't see it. Or is ARC now so common it’s no longer mentioned?

http://www.nix.ru/autocatalog/lcd..._large.jpg

Trueegg 01-25-2013 07:22 AM

Does frys charge tax?

joemama44 01-25-2013 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trueegg (Post 57116192)
Does frys charge tax?

Yes. Mine was about $30 tax +$10 monitor fee.

joemama44 01-25-2013 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eibgrad (Post 57115852)
Anyone know if at least of the HDMI ports on this TV supports ARC (Audio Return Channel) [hdmi.org]? Usually one will be labeled ARC if it does, but I don't see it. Or is ARC now so common it’s no longer mentioned?

http://www.nix.ru/autocatalog/lcd..._large.jpg

That is not the USA version of this tv. The USA version doesnt have aall those goodies. It will only have 2 HDMI in the back, component/composite combo, and an optic audio out which also outputs the digital tuner tv channel sound. The tv also has one usb port that will play music video(except avi.) pictures

QUESTDestiny 01-25-2013 08:25 AM

Best buy does not price match any more with Frys in my area ...however those stupids price matched before 2 days ago and now saying they don't do.So finally ordered through Frys for $423 including tax and free shipping

cobjones 01-26-2013 06:34 AM

[QUOTE=turnne;57115686]they were probably referring to the fact that passive 3D does not give you a 1080P image

so you could only see 1080P on this TV in 2D mode[/QUOE]
I doubt that, as anyone that would ask that would know.

And for general info this does 1080i in 3d (from a firmware update.), if if people try to tell you different. Some people like to argue active vs passive (think Xbox vs ps3).

sp3cialbrownie 01-28-2013 09:54 AM

**Its Back** 42" LG 42LM3400 1080p 3D LED HDTV + 4x 3D Glasses For $399 + Free shipping
 
http://www.frys.com/product/75062...ate:012513

This deal went FP on 1/16 and is back: http://slickdeals.net/f/5801628-LG-42LM3400-42-Class-1080p-3D-LED-TV-399-Free-Ship-Frys

Specs:
Resolution: 1920x1080
Contrast Ratio: 3,000,000:1
Tuners: ATSC/NTSC/Clear QAM
Inputs:
2x HDMI
1x Component
1x Headphone
1x USB

jyang221 01-28-2013 10:17 AM

So is this 60hz refresh rate or 120hz? I'm so confused.

bobbyg27 01-28-2013 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jyang221 (Post 57186920)
So is this 60hz refresh rate or 120hz? I'm so confused.

Looks like 60hz to me. I didn't even know LEDs could get lower than 120hz.

sp3cialbrownie 01-28-2013 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jyang221 (Post 57186920)
So is this 60hz refresh rate or 120hz? I'm so confused.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbyg27 (Post 57187000)
Looks like 60hz to me. I didn't even know LEDs could get lower than 120hz.

Yes this set is 60hz not 120hz.

noeddy 01-28-2013 10:37 AM

anyone use this with xbox 360 or ps3? and experience lag??

m6284505 01-28-2013 10:37 AM

Lot's of good info in the other thread on this. For example:

Quote:

Originally Posted by joemama44 (Post 56887220)
I recently got one. only 2 hdmi ports and 1 composite/component, you can only use one at a time, inputs. It does have a usb that can play videos files as long as its not avi format lol. I wish the black levels were better as I can see the led back light shine through when playing games. The 3d glasses you get for free at the theaters work perfectly fine and feel better then the cheapos lg throws in for free. Be aware this is not an LED tv. it is 3inch thick. It is an LCD with and LED backlight that controls the brightness. This tv doesnt have a lot of bells and whistles besides 3d and 2d to 3d conversion. I personally dont find the 3d effects on this tv mindblowing like on other sets I have used, but those were active 3d tv. Make sure you mount this tv high enough to where the viewer is eye level with the center of the screen or else you will see crosstalk-ghosting of images in 3D. Also dual play is horrible. I have tried every position possible to get it so you cant see the other players screen on COD and other games but it doesnt work.


Sonu 01-28-2013 10:39 AM

3D on 60Hz? lol

anderho3 01-28-2013 10:43 AM

I got this TV the last time it was on sale. It's a pretty decent TV, especially for $399.

nmarscha 01-28-2013 10:49 AM

I have this tv from the last sale. Actually Craiglisting it for $400 and someone is coming tonight to pick it up.

Nothing wrong with the TV - it is great - but I have no use for 3d and nabbed the Toshiba 50" for $450.

zoro 01-28-2013 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sonu (Post 57187594)
3D on 60Hz? lol

it does not work? panasonic is keeping their new smart led tvs with 3d to 60hz?

sarcean 01-28-2013 10:52 AM

60HZ with passive 3D is absolutely fine

60hz is all that is needed for passive, 120HZ for active.

hmongsda 01-28-2013 10:54 AM

Is it true that for Frys, there is no return for TV's this large unless the TV has a problem with it?

hmongsda 01-28-2013 11:02 AM

Anyone have this TV can comment on how good it is? I have a samsung 3D TV and so far am not too impressed with the 3D.

Masterbasser 01-28-2013 11:10 AM

3D isn't dead yet?

yarnim 01-28-2013 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Masterbasser (Post 57188370)
3D isn't dead yet?

it is dead, well, once again.

when all these 3d crap started to be a big hype again, i took a look, and boy, there was nothing different from the 3D that they had back late 80s and early 90's with red and blued cardboard glasses.

Only thing I noticed different was the fancier glasses.

lady_minx 01-28-2013 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jyang221 (Post 57186920)
So is this 60hz refresh rate or 120hz? I'm so confused.

Under features, to the right of the picture of the TV it says:
"42" CLASS CINEMA 3D 1080P 120HZ LED TV (42.0" diagonal) "

dubleo 01-28-2013 11:38 AM

VA or IPS panel?

I'm betting it's an 8 bit VA type panel.

MrCivic98 01-28-2013 11:41 AM

If one were to turn off the 3D feature on this TV, how would the quality stand up to a non-3D TV of similar specs (1080p LED)?

ShinraRasengan 01-28-2013 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yarnim (Post 57188890)
it is dead, well, once again.

when all these 3d crap started to be a big hype again, i took a look, and boy, there was nothing different from the 3D that they had back late 80s and early 90's with red and blued cardboard glasses.

Only thing I noticed different was the fancier glasses.

That is soooo true.... I remember my first 3D movie, Terminator 2, and when the guy stuck the steel point at the crowd we all dodged/ducked, it was amazing.... I have yet to feel like that again, in any 3D movie... I think 3D sucks, but with EFFECTIVE use of 3D at certain parts it may be good... I have actually watched 3D movies without the glasses in the theater, so much easier on the eyes and frankly, didnt miss much at all after shifting back and forth for a few. I think its good as a gimmick right now, but overall 2D is a much more relaxing and pleasurable movie experience still until they perfect VR.

yarnim 01-28-2013 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrCivic98 (Post 57189218)
If one were to turn off the 3D feature on this TV, how would the quality stand up to a non-3D TV of similar specs (1080p LED)?

i would bet it still would be astonishing when it comes to the pic quality. LG makes the best panels and their TVs generally are really top notch

andys_sweeps 01-28-2013 01:29 PM

I have this TV. Got it from WM for 479 :(. This my first and only 3D TV so I cannot compare with other models but I am pretty impressed with 3D feature. That's the only reason I got it and happy that it didn't fail me :). 2D to 3D conversion doesn't work that great though (or sometimes it does not even work), that really depends upon original content.
Refresh rate It is 60Hz. LG has concept of TruMotion rate and that is 120Hz. In my opinion this is just to fool people and make them think that this has 120 hz refresh rate. Same is use by Samsung.
For the people saying it's not LED TV and only LCD... there is no such thing as LED tv all those are LCD Tvs with LED backlightning. Since this is back-lit LED it is not as slim as other edge-lit LED models.
It plays most of the videos via USB. Somebody said it doesn't work for avi. I have experienced that for few avi file for some other avi files it worked. I don't know why or why not.
I use this with XBox 360 and works great with it.

sp3cialbrownie 01-28-2013 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andys_sweeps (Post 57192430)
I have this TV. Got it from WM for 479 :(. This my first and only 3D TV so I cannot compare with other models but I am pretty impressed with 3D feature. That's the only reason I got it and happy that it didn't fail me :). 2D to 3D conversion doesn't work that great though (or sometimes it does not even work), that really depends upon original content.
Refresh rate It is 60Hz. LG has concept of TruMotion rate and that is 120Hz. In my opinion this is just to fool people and make them think that this has 120 hz refresh rate. Same is use by Samsung.
For the people saying it's not LED TV and only LCD... there is no such thing as LED tv all those are LCD Tvs with LED backlightning. Since this is back-lit LED it is not as slim as other edge-lit LED models.
It plays most of the videos via USB. Somebody said it doesn't work for avi. I have experienced that for few avi file for some other avi files it worked. I don't know why or why not.
I use this with XBox 360 and works great with it.

How is gaming on it?

andys_sweeps 01-28-2013 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sp3cialbrownie (Post 57194522)
How is gaming on it?

I'm a very basic gamer, mostly use it for apps. I just play few kinect games, Forza and FIFA. Didn't find any issues playing these games.

dubleo 01-28-2013 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andys_sweeps (Post 57195500)
I'm a very basic gamer, mostly use it for apps. I just play few kinect games, Forza and FIFA. Didn't find any issues playing these games.

Do you own any IPS panel devices to compare to it?

mitchel 01-28-2013 03:49 PM

60Hz...yuck!

dubleo 01-28-2013 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mitchel (Post 57195748)
60Hz...yuck!


I know you've gotten used to gaming at 120 FPS on your 120 Hz monitor , right?

beeemerm5 01-28-2013 03:53 PM

it's dead..just when i decided to pull the trigger on this deal :(

eternal10 01-28-2013 03:56 PM

Still alive for me

petrieslastword 01-28-2013 03:57 PM

Alive, but can' t bring myself to "upgrade" from my old 42" Samsung, need a size upgrade to get myself to pull the trigger.

dubleo 01-28-2013 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petrieslastword (Post 57195938)
Alive, but can' t bring myself to "upgrade" from my old 42" Samsung, need a size upgrade to get myself to pull the trigger.

You might want to look into HDTVs that have an 8 bit S-IPS panel or better for an overall upgrade.

IPS panels don't have as good of a contrast ratio as *VA panels do though.

Your Samsung probably uses a VA type panel like this LG uses so the LG might not be much of an upgrade.

Deradorn 01-28-2013 04:07 PM

Walmart has same model for $428 if frys is sold out

turnne 01-28-2013 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yarnim (Post 57188890)
it is dead, well, once again.

when all these 3d crap started to be a big hype again, i took a look, and boy, there was nothing different from the 3D that they had back late 80s and early 90's with red and blued cardboard glasses.

Only thing I noticed different was the fancier glasses.

..and yet they continue to roll out new new products( of all types) each season?.....

interesting for a format that you say is dead

turnne 01-28-2013 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubleo (Post 57195990)
You might want to look into HDTVs that have an 8 bit S-IPS panel or better for an overall upgrade.

IPS panels don't have as good of a contrast ratio as *VA panels do though.

Your Samsung probably uses a VA type panel like this LG uses so the LG might not be much of an upgrade.

Samsung uses a lot of different panels on their lower end products

As I recall you have to get a 7xxx series to get a guaranteed Samsung panel

that being said...there is lot more to it than that
The picture/color processing is proprietary to the brand...something Samsung does a WHOLE lot better than LG

But...a moot point as the Samsung will be 30%( or more) expensive

If you are stuck on contrast ratio and associated black levels...you are not buying this TV or any other LED/LCD for that matter

You are far more likely to be in the plasma aisle

turnne 01-28-2013 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbyg27 (Post 57187000)
Looks like 60hz to me. I didn't even know LEDs could get lower than 120hz.

Most of the LG's that say they are trumotion 120hz are really 60hz panels any way
You "might" have to step to a 7600 to get a 120hz panel from LG
Their 6200 and 6700( and lower) have been documented to have 60hz panels with a scanning backlight to simulate 120hz

turnne 01-28-2013 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarcean (Post 57187954)
60HZ with passive 3D is absolutely fine

60hz is all that is needed for passive, 120HZ for active.

not sure that matters that much

However...there are no active 3D 60hz sets to test

Most of the LG's that say they are 120hz are 60hz

So...there are all types of 60hz 3D televisions available

chazjr 01-28-2013 04:26 PM

Only 5 Watts per channel..? You will have to upgrade to a Sound Bar or Home Theater system.. 5 Watts per channel won't cut it.. Most 42" HDTV's or bigger, put out 10 Watts per Channel..

I know a guy that works at Fry's.. He says most people upgrade to this TV..
LG 47" 120Hz 3D 1.4"-Thick LED LCD TV, 3D glasses for $549 + free shipping
http://www.frys.com/product/7348654

petrieslastword 01-28-2013 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by turnne (Post 57196302)
Samsung uses a lot of different panels on their lower end products

As I recall you have to get a 7xxx series to get a guaranteed Samsung panel

that being said...there is lot more to it than that
The picture/color processing is proprietary to the brand...something Samsung does a WHOLE lot better than LG

But...a moot point as the Samsung will be 30%( or more) expensive

If you are stuck on contrast ratio and associated black levels...you are not buying this TV or any other LED/LCD for that matter

You are far more likely to be in the plasma aisle

I have a Samsung plasma. It's just 720P and all that.

Fadekyn 01-28-2013 04:45 PM

The only difference between LCD and LED tvs is the backlighting. Both TVs use LCD panels.

Using LED's allows for greater control of the backlighting so there can be zone dimming so that blacks are blacker. Most are edge lit LED which allows for a thinner TV, full back lit allows for better shading for deeper blacks but results in a thicker TV.

(Not sure if a normal LCD TV, non-led backlit, ends up being thinner than a full back lit LED TV.)


The fifth post on this thread has some misinformed information. Since the TV is 3 inches thick, this is probably a full backlit LED TV.

darksiderising 01-28-2013 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbyg27 (Post 57187000)
Looks like 60hz to me. I didn't even know LEDs could get lower than 120hz.

Refresh rate has nothing to do with the backlight. The only difference between non-LED and LED LCD screens is the lighting technology of the backlight that projects light through the LCD panel. Flourescent tubes are used on non-LED and LEDs are used on LED TVs. They are both still LCD screens. The amount of misinformation regarding LED TVs astonishes me.

C.Bledsoejr 01-28-2013 06:24 PM

I ended up getting this TV today. Haven't turned it on yet but it's pretty hard to find a TV for $399 (Plus tax). I was pretty set on LG or Samsung, though I did look at other brands. Looks like it'll be a good size for my apartment living room. :)

turnne 01-28-2013 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fadekyn (Post 57196926)
The only difference between LCD and LED tvs is the backlighting. Both TVs use LCD panels.

Using LED's allows for greater control of the backlighting so there can be zone dimming so that blacks are blacker. Most are edge lit LED which allows for a thinner TV, full back lit allows for better shading for deeper blacks but results in a thicker TV.

(Not sure if a normal LCD TV, non-led backlit, ends up being thinner than a full back lit LED TV.)


The fifth post on this thread has some misinformed information. Since the TV is 3 inches thick, this is probably a full backlit LED TV.

I doubt this TV has much( if any) zone dimming

Like I said earlier...if you are obsessed with contrast ratio, black levels and screen uniformity...this is not the TV you should be shopping for

I think the term "full backlit" would more refer to a full array LED such as the Sony XBR950 or Sharp Elite

It seems now( in order of price and picture quality)
backlit LED>Edge Lit LED> Edge Lit LED with local dimming>full array backlit with local dimming

the backlit seems to be able to made fairly cheaply( as opposed to the others) but they are much thicker...even than the full array backlit models

My LG LE8500 from 2010 is thinner than the Samsung EH or the LG3400,4600 and 4700 models

dilks 01-28-2013 07:48 PM

My order has been saying it's shipped for since the 24th. Do they not give you a tracking number when they ship it?

QUESTDestiny 01-28-2013 08:20 PM

just got LG 42LM3700.
Here are the pros and cons
Cons:
It looks bulky almost 3 to 4 inches of thickness.
3D is not up to the mark compared(background objects are blur,compared to foreground) to the TVs i have seen in stores which are higher end models, but actually the 3d source used is from youtube,so have to check with DVD 3d or bluray 3D.3 depth is less
3D is good only when sitting straight to tv
60 HZ Refresh rate
Glass looks very cheap and not of good durability


PROS:-
the price of $399 for the features is very much acceptable
plays almost every video files through USB port
3D feature

sk2013 01-28-2013 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onurx (Post 56884596)
if this was a smart tv I would be all over it

It is worth investing $50 in ROKU than paying premium price for crappy slow smart TV. I have LG smart TV and hate it's interface. Purchased roku and never used smart tv function.

Saw Bodian 01-28-2013 11:12 PM

Would get this but I refuse to pay tax!

l0aded 01-28-2013 11:12 PM

this has been available since the last deal like a week ago. my coworker just bought this 2 day ago for 399.. was pretty suprised when it was still in stock and still is now.

pianistat 01-28-2013 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saw Bodian (Post 57203876)
Would get this but I refuse to pay tax!

No tax for me in my my state, and I am still reluctant to get a 3D tv. Really don't consider it that much of a thing.
The only reason I may get it because I still have a 32' and a 42' would be nice. But then, can't I get a better 42' w/out 3-D for a better price?

canonikon 01-28-2013 11:38 PM

damn so cheap...but I don't need it...

pianistat 01-28-2013 11:41 PM

It looks there is no monitor plug in (i think called 15 pin or VGA). Major problem for me as one of my comps doesn't have HDMI.

1Lumpsum2 01-28-2013 11:43 PM

i'm actually in for 1.......Screw all the haters, this is replacing a 32" in the bedroom. No tax ....free shipping....done!

norazi 01-29-2013 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pianistat (Post 57204194)
It looks there is no monitor plug in (i think called 15 pin or VGA). Major problem for me as one of my comps doesn't have HDMI.


you can buy an HDMI video card for $10-20 these days

CGriswald309B 01-29-2013 12:02 AM

No audio out is the killer for me.

But maybe this is the TV I should buy for my 'rents.

Thanks!

2am 01-29-2013 12:34 AM

I need have a new TV,this is the first choice.

ca51580520 01-29-2013 12:42 AM

3" to 4" inch thick..

akh1989 01-29-2013 12:51 AM

3" thick and has a digital audio out

PrinceOfDa831 01-29-2013 01:04 AM

Never thought i'd see the day to see people complain about a tv being 3 inches thick. And im only 25.

BuffaloBillius 01-29-2013 01:09 AM

Awesome price. Wish I had the money currently. Thanks and repped though.

ElDorito 01-29-2013 04:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spydersdeals69 (Post 56900368)
IF...there were anything ever made in 3D other than Avatar, Tangled, and that one iMax film that were any good, I'd consider it.

The tv has 2d to 3d conversion... most movies look pretty good.. regular program is okay too... and video games, if you play them, are for the most part eye popping especially ones that are made in 3d. Don't expect the same 3d on things not shot in 3d, but a great feature

JasonKR 01-29-2013 06:17 AM

Seems like it's really great deal.. but no need for right now :(

NY11 01-29-2013 07:19 AM

will Best Buy match this?

Grompy 01-29-2013 07:21 AM

They also have

LG 47LM4600 47" Class (46.9" Actual Diagonal Size) 1080p 120Hz 3D LED TV with 4 Pairs of 3D Glasses for $549 + Free Shipping

and

LG 55LS4500 55" Class (54.6" Actual Diagonal Size) 1080p 120Hz LED TV for $699 + Free Shipping

skimrn 01-29-2013 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deftonian (Post 56900242)
If this was a 120", Ultra HD (4k), 480hz TV, I'd be all over it.

......... this "if" game could go on forever.....

If this was a 120in 8K OLED 3D with Local Dimming Full Array TV, I'd be all over it :)

skimrn 01-29-2013 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShinraRasengan (Post 57191456)
That is soooo true.... I remember my first 3D movie, Terminator 2, and when the guy stuck the steel point at the crowd we all dodged/ducked, it was amazing.... I have yet to feel like that again, in any 3D movie... I think 3D sucks, but with EFFECTIVE use of 3D at certain parts it may be good... I have actually watched 3D movies without the glasses in the theater, so much easier on the eyes and frankly, didnt miss much at all after shifting back and forth for a few. I think its good as a gimmick right now, but overall 2D is a much more relaxing and pleasurable movie experience still until they perfect VR.

Well current 3D is definitely better than those old blue & red glasses crap.
Only thing I don't like is I wear glasses so they fall off every few mins or so but more importantly due to the lens the picture is darker and I miss the original bright picture.

bruteshot 01-29-2013 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ca51580520 (Post 57204728)
3" to 4" inch thick..

ATM machine
PIN number
HIV virus
UPC code
IRA account

I assume you like to use these phrases as well?

dreamzdecora 01-29-2013 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bruteshot (Post 57208226)
ATM machine
PIN number
HIV virus
UPC code
IRA account

I assume you like to use these phrases as well?

lol....

neighhoma 01-29-2013 07:59 AM

In for one! Thanks and repped!

turnne 01-29-2013 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skimrn (Post 57208172)
but more importantly due to the lens the picture is darker and I miss the original bright picture.

sounds like you need a better quality TV

many TVs( Samsung, Panasonic) have separate 3D settings that allow you to adjust the brightness of the picture for just 3D viewing

Net result....no difference in brightness of 2D vs 3D

turnne 01-29-2013 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QUESTDestiny (Post 57200996)
just got LG 42LM3700.
Here are the pros and cons
Cons:
It looks bulky almost 3 to 4 inches of thickness.
3D is not up to the mark compared(background objects are blur,compared to foreground) to the TVs i have seen in stores which are higher end models, but actually the 3d source used is from youtube,so have to check with DVD 3d or bluray 3D.3 depth is less
3D is good only when sitting straight to tv
60 HZ Refresh rate
Glass looks very cheap and not of good durability


PROS:-
the price of $399 for the features is very much acceptable
plays almost every video files through USB port
3D feature


and that would sum up what type of expectation one should have at this price point

this TV is well worth $399

Morning_Breath 01-29-2013 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grompy (Post 57208094)
They also have

LG 47LM4600 47" Class (46.9" Actual Diagonal Size) 1080p 120Hz 3D LED TV with 4 Pairs of 3D Glasses for $549 + Free Shipping

Newegg has that model for $549 right now too.

Fadekyn 01-29-2013 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sk2013 (Post 57201162)
It is worth investing $50 in ROKU than paying premium price for crappy slow smart TV. I have LG smart TV and hate it's interface. Purchased roku and never used smart tv function.

If I could thumb up this post I would. My roomate had a Vizio smart TV and certain Netflix movies ALWAYS freeze. The abilities of smart tv's to handle the download vary widely.

You're much better off running a Roku, Apple TV or streaming right from a laptop/HTPC. I have been very disappointed with the performance of smart TVs to date. Seems you pay a vast premium for what seems to me turns out to be low end PC parts embedded in your TVs.

Think of it this way, how many of you liked paying a premium for embedded DVD and VHS players when it was offered by your respective TV brand. You didn't, this is the same thing.

350zfred 01-29-2013 08:48 AM

Is this a good tv for watching the Superbowl or is it a TV that is not great for sports?

AmanO 01-29-2013 09:47 AM

3D haters..............cannot tell if trolling or just very very stupid..............

bill.fish48 01-29-2013 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fadekyn (Post 57209930)
If I could thumb up this post I would. My roomate had a Vizio smart TV and certain Netflix movies ALWAYS freeze. The abilities of smart tv's to handle the download vary widely.

I had this exact problem with my Vizio - the wifi in it was pretty weak. So I connected it to a wireless router and it works VERY well. Still worth to pick up a smart TV, and especially with my Vizio, everything is already on the TV so no need to turn on any other device. Also, my remote has a full keyboard on the back which makes it quite convenient.

bill.fish48 01-29-2013 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmanO (Post 57211920)
3D haters..............cannot tell if trolling or just very very stupid..............

3D right now is a technology that is still developing. It's still on the gimmicky edge of the cliff and unless something really new and awesome comes out for it, I'm afraid it's not going to stand much longer. Once 3D TV comes out where you don't have to wear glasses, then a lot more people will be up for it.

The only reason why I considered a 3D TV when I recently was purchasing a new one was because the price was fair, it was the right size, and if I ever got a PS3 the multiplayer feature would have been great.

However, the picture was way too dark (this was a 47" LG) and the picture was not as smooth as other TVs around it. I'm pretty picky about framerate as I work with video games.

simonak 01-29-2013 10:55 AM

This is so funny that people expect 120hz at this price range. Thrue 120hz tv start at 600-700$ and as for gaming the biggest size that accept true 120hz is only 27".

skimrn 01-29-2013 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by turnne (Post 57209496)
sounds like you need a better quality TV

many TVs( Samsung, Panasonic) have separate 3D settings that allow you to adjust the brightness of the picture for just 3D viewing

Net result....no difference in brightness of 2D vs 3D

No difference in brightness between 2D vs 3D? I don't know what to say. Am I the only person who think that 3D is definitely darker than 2D?

BTW, I have the new Panasonic TC-P65VT50 top of the line 65in Panasonic Plasma. What's better than that? Sharp Elite Pro 60X-5FD? Unfortunately I can't afford $6000 TV right now. :)

ottolikes 01-29-2013 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 350zfred (Post 57210150)
Is this a good tv for watching the Superbowl or is it a TV that is not great for sports?

It should be good enough depending on what you are expecting.

Danny16 01-29-2013 12:01 PM

Does anyone know if Best Buy will price match?

Hitman619 01-29-2013 12:03 PM

Need to get a bigger T.V. for my Xbox360 in my man cave:P

jeffg9995 01-29-2013 01:03 PM

3m:1 contrast ratio, what a joke. You'd be lucky if you got a static 2500-3000:1 out of this thing.

turnne 01-29-2013 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skimrn (Post 57214318)
No difference in brightness between 2D vs 3D? I don't know what to say. Am I the only person who think that 3D is definitely darker than 2D?

not when you adjust the 3D settings

I have a Samsung E8000...and honestly the 3D with the adjusted brightness settings is phenominal

I have a panasonic ST50 as well...maybe(?) the Panasonic has slightly better black levels
However..I would still say the E8000 has a better over all picture and zero cross talk in 3D
Both the ST50 and a my Samsung D6900 LED have some cross talk in 3D

does the VT have cross talk in 3D mode as well?

BrianC811 01-29-2013 01:42 PM

Why did I buy this, I don't need it...

hmongsda 01-29-2013 02:52 PM

Seems like the 47" is well worth the jump for another 150. This seems like a very basic 3d TV and its pretty thick at 3". My 2 year old Samsung isn't that thick.

bagusbagus 01-29-2013 03:36 PM

the price been this much since december , i pick up one back then.
love this tv can't beat it with this price

ksmut 01-29-2013 04:23 PM

Stopped by the Concord, CA store today at lunch. They have 35 units out on the floor and 1 on display. They were showing some Samsung HD demo on all the sets. No direct BD hooked up to the set. Edges on images looked kinda blocky but I chalked that up to signal degredation because I noticed the same blockiness on the $1500+ sets too. Colors, saturation, and black levels looked good on the "Vivid" preset but that's just me. Didn't have time to tweak anything and just ran through the presets. Sports was bright while Cinema of course was the dimmest. Like most LG sets, there are "Expert" settings where you can tweak to your hearts delight to dial in the best picture. I also like the fact that this set has built in test patterns.

I tried out 2D->3D after CSR gave me some glasses. 2D->3D didn't look half bad as I stood back about 10 feet looking straight on. Static things, like text and shots where there was no motion, looked good while moving images weren't as good. Noticed that 3D has some kind of picture preset that can't be changed. This is how I verified it. In 2D I set the picture to "Cinema" and then switched 2D->3D. I watched for little bit and tried to enter the picture settings menu but it wouldn't let me. I then switched back to 2D and went back into picture settings and noticed it was changed to "Vivid". I did this a few times and it did the same thing each time. I noticed there was some brightness change too when going from 2D->3D so it must be happening. Would like to have seen a 3D BD hooked up to it but oh well.

Overall, this isn't a bad buy just for the TV alone. Throw in the decent 3D capabilities and USB input as bonuses. I'm on the fence though because I'm considering the LE48FHDF3300ZTA at TD for the same price AR which is a larger screen and real 240Hz (and S-PVA panel?) but no 3D.

VannaG 01-29-2013 04:45 PM

Can the 3D be "turned off"?

hmongsda 01-29-2013 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VannaG (Post 57223980)
Can the 3D be "turned off"?

Are you asking whether you can play things in 2D? Yes of course!!! 3D TV simply means its capable of playing 3D.

rbcrewser 01-29-2013 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeffg9995 (Post 57218194)
3m:1 contrast ratio, what a joke. You'd be lucky if you got a static 2500-3000:1 out of this thing.

Then how about you link a comparably priced tv that meets your criteria. Everyone knows this isn't the best available at any cost but value for money, it ain't bad. In for one for my lounge area in my shop/toy/tool area, if people complain the pics too blurry, i'll just hand them another beer.

Stockjock 01-29-2013 07:09 PM

I have this TV (different model number because mine came w/a sound bar). It's extremely good. My review starts off "Brilliant 3D HDTV...". Please give me a "helpful" rating on Amazon if you find the review to be useful. Here's a link: http://www.amazon.com/LG-42LM3700...rds=lm3700

Action101 01-29-2013 08:28 PM

$436 outdoor...Ca

skimrn 01-29-2013 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by turnne (Post 57218416)
not when you adjust the 3D settings

I have a Samsung E8000...and honestly the 3D with the adjusted brightness settings is phenominal

I have a panasonic ST50 as well...maybe(?) the Panasonic has slightly better black levels
However..I would still say the E8000 has a better over all picture and zero cross talk in 3D
Both the ST50 and a my Samsung D6900 LED have some cross talk in 3D

does the VT have cross talk in 3D mode as well?

Yes VT has cross talk. I am very picky and it bothers me a bit... Does anyone know what is the best TV on the market for 3D picture quality? I am guessing a Samsung LED...

asuchemist 01-30-2013 10:15 AM

Not bad deal. The 3D looks decent on this system. Not razor thin tv though. Hot price.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stockjock (Post 57227216)
I have this TV (different model number because mine came w/a sound bar). It's extremely good. My review starts off "Brilliant 3D HDTV...". Please give me a "helpful" rating on Amazon if you find the review to be useful. Here's a link: http://www.amazon.com/LG-42LM3700...rds=lm3700

Have you used it as a computer monitor? If so, any problems with ghosting? Really want to pick this up to use a computer monitor/ps3nXbox360 monitor.

asuchemist 01-30-2013 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny16 (Post 57216368)
Does anyone know if Best Buy will price match?

Best Buy will price match if it is in stock (sometimes they don't check). they will also price match online up until the 31-Jan.

Just don't try to use the $50 of $100 Mastercard promotion. :lol:

CaliforniaNavel 01-30-2013 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hmongsda (Post 57224246)
Are you asking whether you can play things in 2D? Yes of course!!! 3D TV simply means its capable of playing 3D.

wow does this question really pop up on every TV thread? you are patient to answer it. :sleepy:

koivu9 01-30-2013 11:49 PM

It says $599 now, is the deal over?

BrianC811 01-31-2013 08:48 AM

Ordered mine Tuesday afternoon and it arrived next day! I was totally shocked when the UPS guy showed up.

Overall, I haven't had much "play" time with it, nor have I calibrated it yet, but I like its 3D. Much better then some earlier TV models from a couple years ago. HD shows up excellent. I immediately attached a soundbar to it with a sub using its digital out and in all seriousness couldn't ask for a better set up at this price point.

Yes, it'd be nice if it were networked and had more HDMI ports and and and... but it's $399!

star1029 01-31-2013 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by koivu9 (Post 57258044)
It says $599 now, is the deal over?

It shows 399 at checkout. I just ordered one myself


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