Originally Posted by washyou (Post 57019804)

last gen CPU for $699.....

Originally Posted by washyou (Post 57019804)

last gen CPU for $699.....

Originally Posted by aznhero913 (Post 57021840)

why is this getting a negative reps?

Originally Posted by MusicsAllWeGot (Post 57023090)

Here's the thing. A few years ago, any laptop would have costed you a good chunk of money, yes they were big in size and yet you were stuck with running whatever it could handle. For the few that knew how to tweak/add hardware, well you could get the most out of it.
Now we have 'ultrabooks' where the cpu alone exceeds in performance, compared to those of Celeron or Core 2 duo, which I find amazing. The price? This is definitely below and much faster than something you could have gotten about 2-3+ years ago. Shouting '2nd gen' does not mean a bad thing. If you're trying to play BF3, Skyrim, or whatever game that you want to run in super ultra magnificent out of this world graphics, then yes, this laptop isn't for you.

But if you're looking to write reports, spreadsheets, watch movies, surf the web or something similar, without the extra weight or thickness, then this is a good buy. Yes there were chances to catch a deal on the 3rd gen SS9 ultrabooks, if you were lucky, for about the same price too but even that didn't last long. And yes you could wait a few more months for Haswell to come out, rumor is June, but like always anytime you wait, everything eventually drops in price.

Originally Posted by aznhero913 (Post 57021840)

why is this getting a negative reps?

Originally Posted by jonathanchincom (Post 57024564)

is the price expected to drop soon or should I just jump on this?

Originally Posted by sinosudial (Post 57019942)

So what?

Originally Posted by TidalWaveOne (Post 57026820)

Last gen CPUs are not as good as current gen.

Originally Posted by TidalWaveOne (Post 57026820)

Last gen CPUs are not as good as current gen.

Originally Posted by Foreveryours (Post 57027282)

Are there ever where that's not the case, mr. obvious?

Originally Posted by dillwheat (Post 57028364)

just note that this is not the top of the line Series 9. That is why it appears to be cheap.

Originally Posted by dillwheat (Post 57028364)

just note that this is not the top of the line Series 9. That is why it appears to be cheap.

Originally Posted by gezzuzz (Post 57027108)

if you are in the market for a ultra book you should get something with a touchsceen.. or wait 6 more months till the TS models get cheaper

Originally Posted by TidalWaveOne (Post 57026820)

Last gen CPUs are not as good as current gen.

Originally Posted by just1guy (Post 57028852)

You buy what you can afford.Newer and better CPUs come out all the time.
Whichever laptop you buy , don't invest too much money in it unless you have money to burn or daddy is buying one for you , etc.

Originally Posted by Foreveryours (Post 57028916)

How many times have we witnessed CPUs slowing us down? Seriously?

Originally Posted by Foreveryours (Post 57028916)

How many times have we witnessed CPUs slowing us down? Seriously?

Originally Posted by TidalWaveOne (Post 57029362)

All the time?

Originally Posted by Foreveryours (Post 57029460)

I'm thinking you don't even have a sandy bridge.

Originally Posted by TidalWaveOne (Post 57029482)

I've got an overclocked 3770K and I'm still waiting on the CPU to compile my code... it's not instantaneous.

Originally Posted by sinosudial (Post 57019942)

So what?

Originally Posted by PitPirate (Post 57019718)

Decent price for an ultrabook.

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-NP9...g+series+9

Originally Posted by Foreveryours (Post 57029506)

You do know what an ultrabook is, no?

Originally Posted by TidalWaveOne (Post 57029954)

Yes... what is your point exactly?

Originally Posted by timsy (Post 57029778)

2.5lbs? 400 nits? 9 hour claimed battery? i5 (last gen or not)? magnesium body? USB3? 0.5" thick?

That's pretty sweet for $700.

Originally Posted by junhao123 (Post 57030936)

FYI it's not going to actually last 9 hours. The nice screen really reduces battery life.
Also, this had already reached these prices at the Microsoft Store around half a year ago.
But it weighs less than the Macbook Air (and has higher resolution), as well as being half the price. If you want an ultraportable with enough power to do more than a netbook, this is definitely the one to get.

Originally Posted by Foreveryours (Post 57030660)

It's like you're complaining about the lack of storage space in a sports coupe.

Originally Posted by TidalWaveOne (Post 57032986)

I'm not complaining about anything... just stating facts.

Originally Posted by Foreveryours (Post 57033118)

You should stop. It's making you sound very ghey. Not that there's anything wrong with that :wink2:

Originally Posted by TidalWaveOne (Post 57033234)

That's news to me. :lol:

Originally Posted by Foreveryours (Post 57033450)

Obvioously :rofl2:

And yes, certain facts, specially when inappropriately cited, can be very much so :lol:

Originally Posted by just1guy (Post 57028796)

I use my tablet for touching the screen....keep wiping it all the time.
I can't imagine my laptop screen with smudges on it all the time ... no way!

Originally Posted by hansmoleman007 (Post 57029542)

The only real knock I see on this is that you are limited to the built in 4GB RAM. For the price and portability that might not be an issue for some.

Originally Posted by busywork (Post 57035690)

good price on a very nice ultrabook :)

I was kinda interested in the U310 FP deal but lately we've been repairing a lot of them at work (video/mainboard failure). For a little more, I'd much rather have a Sandy Bridge i5 w/ higher resolution screen and better build quality than an Ivy Bridge i3 w/ standard res. Ugh must resist...

Originally Posted by ilikemoneys (Post 57037102)

Are you sure? This has never been confirmed. All other Series 9 are expandable up to 8GB and the mSATA ssd can also be changed. I have yet to see any info on this model confirming or denying this.

Edit: Just reread the amazon listing. Says in no uncertain terms that 4GB is the maximum capacity with this computer. Shoot. Makes it a lot harder for me to reccomend. Still a decently nice ultrabook at this price.

Originally Posted by ilikemoneys (Post 57037378)

You know, I have been getting a lot more newer ideapads myself for the same issues. I was thinking the increase was simply due to Lenovos ever increasing popularity, but it would seem the their motherboards' quality is somewhat deteriorating.

Originally Posted by drymonkey (Post 57037642)

Yeah, I used to recommend lenovo to everyone but lately it seemed their notebook has serious QC issues, especially MB related. It seemed even their thinkpad model is not safe either. I already returned my x230 once for MB replacement. A relative is returning his G780 for MB failure as well.

Originally Posted by drymonkey (Post 57037564)

I am pretty sure it's been confirmed somewhere on notebookreview forum that the 13.3" model is not upgradable and only the 15" is.

Originally Posted by menting (Post 57043300)

3.3 inch huh?
that's smaller than Intel's NUC!!

Originally Posted by amax (Post 57043518)

But bigger than the OP's... :lol:

Originally Posted by couponhunter (Post 57046164)

Give this a thought...

You are paying $700 for a year old processor, memory that can never be upgraded, and no SSD. Sure i5 Sandy and 4GB is plenty to surf the web and most office applications. But what happens when 2 years down the road you decide to run Windows 8 or Windows 9 on it? You could use a Ivy Bridge or an extra couple GB of memory then.

Keep looking, you will find a better deal.

Originally Posted by gezzuzz (Post 57027108)

if you are in the market for a ultra book you should get something with a touchsceen.. or wait 6 more months till the TS models get cheaper

Originally Posted by couponhunter (Post 57046164)

Give this a thought...

You are paying $700 for a year old processor, memory that can never be upgraded, and no SSD. Sure i5 Sandy and 4GB is plenty to surf the web and most office applications. But what happens when 2 years down the road you decide to run Windows 8 or Windows 9 on it? You could use a Ivy Bridge or an extra couple GB of memory then.

Originally Posted by bob13bob (Post 57048870)

thats pretty low speeds. I don't care about last gen, but they had to downclock the chip so much for heat dissipation makes it not so useful for my computer intensive needs. I'll go with a thicker heavier faster computer.

Originally Posted by MusicsAllWeGot (Post 57023090)

Here's the thing. A few years ago, any laptop would have costed you a good chunk of money, yes they were big in size and yet you were stuck with running whatever it could handle. For the few that knew how to tweak/add hardware, well you could get the most out of it.
Now we have 'ultrabooks' where the cpu alone exceeds in performance, compared to those of Celeron or Core 2 duo, which I find amazing. The price? This is definitely below and much faster than something you could have gotten about 2-3+ years ago. Shouting '2nd gen' does not mean a bad thing. If you're trying to play BF3, Skyrim, or whatever game that you want to run in super ultra magnificent out of this world graphics, then yes, this laptop isn't for you.

But if you're looking to write reports, spreadsheets, watch movies, surf the web or something similar, without the extra weight or thickness, then this is a good buy. Yes there were chances to catch a deal on the 3rd gen SS9 ultrabooks, if you were lucky, for about the same price too but even that didn't last long. And yes you could wait a few more months for Haswell to come out, rumor is June, but like always anytime you wait, everything eventually drops in price.

Originally Posted by z32tt (Post 57049418)

Stopped reading here. Thanks for posting, though.

Originally Posted by TDK0117 (Post 57050198)

Hope you're your being sarcastic.

Originally Posted by aznhero913 (Post 57023456)

Thanks for the post!!

Gonna give this strong consideration

Originally Posted by beggerking (Post 57050322)

This is last Gen CPU

Current generation would actually allow you to play games with three times faster gpu for about same price.

For even smaller footprint and touch screen,check out surface pro coming out Feb 9th. For 899 you get a tablet convertable to laptop with touch screen and current Gen cup.

Originally Posted by laptopquestions (Post 57050294)

Hope you meant your're instead of your:D

Originally Posted by beggerking (Post 57050322)

This is last Gen CPU

Current generation would actually allow you to play games with three times faster gpu for about same price.

For even smaller footprint and touch screen,check out surface pro coming out Feb 9th. For 899 you get a tablet convertable to laptop with touch screen and current Gen cup.

Originally Posted by TDK0117 (Post 57050582)

Lol it was meant to be sarcasm within sarcasm O.O. Sarcaception?

Originally Posted by beggerking (Post 57050322)

For even smaller footprint and touch screen,check out surface pro coming out Feb 9th. For 899 you get a tablet convertable to laptop with touch screen and current Gen cup.

Originally Posted by Jackeduphard (Post 57050706)

Mehhh

Originally Posted by asbad (Post 57051222)

I dont see the big deal on this. This is almost the same specs of a netbook for several hundred dollars more. Your not going to be able to play any decent games with that processor speed. My acer netbook that i paid 250 for a year and a half ago has a dual core that goes up to 1.3 ghz. This just seems like overpriced nothingness. Maybe im missing something.

Originally Posted by pilot757 (Post 57032388)

Haswell will be 10% faster then Ivy Bridge and give you a significant boost in battery life. Intel's focus on Haswell is power savings and GPU performance. The GPU will be double the power that is in Ivy Bridge. I just read an article where they compared it to the NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M. For all you Apple fanboy's that's the GPU in the 15" MBP with retina display. There is a video online of a Haswell notebook playing Skyrim.

Originally Posted by gezzuzz (Post 57035232)

owner of a yoga i7 here... use one once you will never touch a tablet again.. makes ipad look like a 486

Originally Posted by drymonkey (Post 57037642)

Yeah, I used to recommend lenovo to everyone but lately it seemed their notebook has serious QC issues, especially MB related. It seemed even their thinkpad model is not safe either. I already returned my x230 once for MB replacement. A relative is returning his G780 for MB failure as well.

Originally Posted by ilikemoneys (Post 57037102)

Are you sure? This has never been confirmed. All other Series 9 are expandable up to 8GB and the mSATA ssd can also be changed. I have yet to see any info on this model confirming or denying this.

Edit: Just reread the amazon listing. Says in no uncertain terms that 4GB is the maximum capacity with this computer. Shoot. Makes it a lot harder for me to reccomend. Still a decently nice ultrabook at this price.

Originally Posted by diablofreak (Post 57053548)

how upgradeable are the RAM? is it one slot or two?

Originally Posted by dQn (Post 57051952)

Any deals on a yoga?

Originally Posted by gezzuzz (Post 57035232)

owner of a yoga i7 here... use one once you will never touch a tablet again.. makes ipad look like a 486

Originally Posted by GrandmasterBBC (Post 57051904)

I believe you are missing more than something. I assume that your Acer netbook, dual core or not, is running an Atom or similar low power AMD cpu? These cpus do not compare at all to the i5-2537M in this ultrabook. Clock speed is not a viable comparison of performance when you are looking at two drastically different architecures. Seriously not even close.

The same goes for the graphics. Even attempting to watch HD video on any netbook is an exercise in frustration. The HD3000 will destroy your netbook in the video/graphics department. Yes, gaming will be very limited...but at least it is possible to a certain degree.
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Originally Posted by megapper (Post 57053752)

Keep an eye out for best buy open box, as you might find a good deal in there.

Other than that, no deal so far.

Originally Posted by Buckeyefan 1 (Post 57053928)

What's the weight, and is it aluminum?

Originally Posted by Scrode (Post 57051884)

I own this notebook, it is AT LEAST as well constructed as the Macbook Air, and superior in so many other ways.

It has better battery life, I get 7 to 9 hours (vs 5 to 7 on my MBA). Also the battery is user serviceable, it is not soldered to the mainboard so all you need is a phillips screwdriver.

The screen is amazing. It is a PLS (samsungs take on IPS) so it has excellent viewing angles with no color distortion at all. You never have to adjust angle of the screen as you sit in front of it. The brightness tops out at 400 nit, twice that of most other laptops out there, and 14% than my MBA. Combined with its mate screen this is an amazing panel second only to the ridiculously expensive retina display.

The performance is good, even with last generations i5 it can handle anything you would want to do with an ultra portable.

This laptop is sexy, if you're looking for an ultra portable the series 9 is the best IMO, unless you are a strict apple fan. Make no mistake this is MBA class notebook at half the price with arguably better construction and specs.

At this price I'm buying a second one. Thank you and TU!

Originally Posted by GrandmasterBBC (Post 57051904)

I believe you are missing more than something. I assume that your Acer netbook, dual core or not, is running an Atom or similar low power AMD cpu? These cpus do not compare at all to the i5-2537M in this ultrabook. Clock speed is not a viable comparison of performance when you are looking at two drastically different architecures. Seriously not even close.

The same goes for the graphics. Even attempting to watch HD video on any netbook is an exercise in frustration. The HD3000 will destroy your netbook in the video/graphics department. Yes, gaming will be very limited...but at least it is possible to a certain degree.

Check the cpu in your machine and compare it to the i5-2537M at these sites. I think you will understand then:

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Inte...695.0.html
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.p...40+1.40GHz




I would be very interested in reading this article if you would be so kind as to post a link. My reluctance to buy this ultrabook is strictly with the second gen cpu & graphics. I do like to do a bit of light gaming now and again (Left for Dead 2 and the like). I can actually run this on my Lenovo E420, which runs an i5-2410M @ 2.3 GHz, but it is pretty marginal even with all graphics cranked down to low. I have a pretty powerful PC that handles my true gaming needs, but it is nice to be able to play a bit when away from home.

The HD4000 graphics would be a nice improvement for my needs, but I am very eager to see what the next generation will do, particularly in the gaming department. If it will really be comparable to a GT 650M then Intel integrated graphics will have finally reached a performance level that can actually be used for gaming. I can't wait to see what they can do!

Edit: I think I found the article you are referring to (although it is comparing performance of the top of the line Haswell desktop unit to that of a laptop):
http://www.anandtech.com/show/660...ce-gt-650m

Originally Posted by gezzuzz (Post 57054106)

comparing the ipad to the yoga is like comparing the ipad to a tablet of paper..

yes the tablet of paper is lighter... dont use batteries.. and thinner then the ipad.. so is it better then the ipad? more popular then ipad too..

Originally Posted by matt00926 (Post 57054834)

What's the point of "portable" when it only has a 4-cell battery? Not worth $700.

Originally Posted by dougpaw57 (Post 57019812)

Finally, 1600x900 resolution. There has been so much 1366x768 crap lately, it's good to see something you can do real work on, not just watch movies.

Originally Posted by matt00926 (Post 57054834)

What's the point of "portable" when it only has a 4-cell battery? Not worth $700.

Originally Posted by ekoretz (Post 57054526)

I own the 15 inch version. would not rec this laptop at all. Note I got it new the 3.0 USB's did not work for a year until the recent driver updates. the keyboard back space and spacebar dont work 25 percent of the time. google that problem first before buying and view others with same problem. here is a link to view http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRXr35mDyLM . if you type with your touchpad on you will see that the curser will move to other lines and mess up what you have been typing. It does start up and shut down very fast. the graphic driver would not play all videos also. you will be watching something and all of a sudden the screen turns green. computer looks and feels good but does not perform like it should.

Originally Posted by bchillz (Post 57054774)

This thing looks exactly like a Mac book....everything down to the keyboard.

Originally Posted by junhao123 (Post 57055568)

FYI Series 7 and Series 9 are very different.
The Series 7 is more comparable to the Macbook Pro while the OP is more like the Air.
I'd say the Series 7 doesn't count as an ultrabook.

Originally Posted by junhao123 (Post 57055568)

FYI Series 7 and Series 9 are very different.
The Series 7 is more comparable to the Macbook Pro while the OP is more like the Air.
I'd say the Series 7 doesn't count as an ultrabook.

Originally Posted by Noobzilla771 (Post 57057032)

Looks like TigerDirect has the same model. Ask for price match maybe so no tax on certain States (ie CA)?

Originally Posted by juliannguyen (Post 57053044)

For how long did you use your x230 until the MB failed? I'm using my x230 and haven't seen any problem for (only) two months. You make me scared :lmao:

Originally Posted by De-Cuss (Post 57025132)

dont own a macbook and not a fan,but non of the windows based laptop companies are succeeding in making that sweet close to perfect machine.

Originally Posted by stevenq (Post 57058572)

What about Surface Pro? Is it close to perfect?

Originally Posted by makeitslickER (Post 57056414)

get a pair of glasses maybe?
Design language is clearly different from that of apple's and if you are talking about the chicklet style keyboard, SONY is actually the first one to use it, so you should say "keyboard looks like sony's" to be least bit fair.

Originally Posted by TidalWaveOne (Post 57029482)

I've got an overclocked 3770K and I'm still waiting on the CPU to compile my code... it's not instantaneous.

Originally Posted by GrandmasterBBC (Post 57051904)

I would be very interested in reading this article if you would be so kind as to post a link. My reluctance to buy this ultrabook is strictly with the second gen cpu & graphics. I do like to do a bit of light gaming now and again (Left for Dead 2 and the like). I can actually run this on my Lenovo E420, which runs an i5-2410M @ 2.3 GHz, but it is pretty marginal even with all graphics cranked down to low. I have a pretty powerful PC that handles my true gaming needs, but it is nice to be able to play a bit when away from home.

The HD4000 graphics would be a nice improvement for my needs, but I am very eager to see what the next generation will do, particularly in the gaming department. If it will really be comparable to a GT 650M then Intel integrated graphics will have finally reached a performance level that can actually be used for gaming. I can't wait to see what they can do!

Edit: I think I found the article you are referring to (although it is comparing performance of the top of the line Haswell desktop unit to that of a laptop):
http://www.anandtech.com/show/660...ce-gt-650m

Originally Posted by Jackeduphard (Post 57050706)

Mehhh

Originally Posted by stevenq (Post 57058572)

What about Surface Pro? Is it close to perfect?

Originally Posted by megapper (Post 57053752)

Keep an eye out for best buy open box, as you might find a good deal in there.

Other than that, no deal so far.

Originally Posted by dxxvi (Post 57060862)

I'm curious. What programming language do you use? How long does it take to compile your project? And if you're using java, how many .java files are there? do you compile in your IDE or with Ant or Maven or something else?

Originally Posted by beggerking (Post 57061836)

according to specs, looks like its closer to perfection...

Originally Posted by beggerking (Post 57061836)

Storage 64GB*, 128GB
*System software uses significant storage space. Available storage is subject to change based on system software updates and apps usage.
1 GB = 1 billion bytes. See Surface.com/storage for more details.

Originally Posted by Microsoft

*Storage size shown is based on decimal system (1 GB = 1 billion bytes) while Windows RT displays disk size using binary system (1 GB = 1,073,741,824 bytes). As a result, 1 GB (in decimal) appears as about 0.93 GB (in binary). Storage capacity is the same; it's just shown differently depending on how you measure a GB (decimal or binary).

Originally Posted by TidalWaveOne (Post 57062504)

It looks very intriguing though I'm a bit disappointed it has only 4GB instead of 8GB and think it should have 128GB and 256GB options instead of 64GB and 128GB options.

Originally Posted by Kryspie (Post 57061740)

i said the exact same thing. they are better deals out there. "dont believe the hype"

Originally Posted by Wolf1e (Post 57063248)

waaaaaaaannnnnnnnnttttttttttbut don't need >_<! dammit lol

Originally Posted by Wolf1e (Post 57063248)

waaaaaaaannnnnnnnnttttttttttbut don't need >_<! dammit lol

Originally Posted by mattraven (Post 57063650)

So is 6GB over 4GB really only necessary for high-end gaming, coding, and/or moviemaking?

Originally Posted by joethebum (Post 57065270)

Any examples of these better deals?

Originally Posted by Ransom (Post 57065374)

A lot of people are defending this deal... here's why I don't think it's a good deal at all:

Last October I bought a Vizio 14" Ultarbook for $550 straight up from Walmart. It's 1600X900 IPS, 3rd Gen Core i3, 128GB SSD, and a similar all metal construction.

That thread got about 5 replies. This thread almost 6 months later, is $150 more for an ultrabook arguably not as nice, and hits the front page.

The difference between Core i3 and i5 in DESKTOPS is huge. In laptops, it's basically ziltch, especially if you're downgrading to Sandy Bridge from Ivy. They're both duel core processors @ similar speeds with the same cache, and hyperthreading. If this was Ivy, I'd pick on up, but selling Sandy's for $700 3 months before Haswell comes out... silly.

Originally Posted by just1guy (Post 57065402)

Come on .... let's go .......is it so hard just to click.....click...buy.....I got one !

Originally Posted by sueshake (Post 57062068)

2nd this, I just grabbed one open box with minor scratch from BB at $820-10%+tax, so far loving it except fan noise and occasional WIFI issue.

Originally Posted by PitPirate (Post 57026630)

Sure, it might drop again in April when new models come out, but I have been following this computer or a while and this is the best price it has been, so I think this is the floor for the near future.

Originally Posted by just1guy (Post 57065522)

Vizio ?! whaaaaaaat ? You should compare that to Toshiba or Acer , not BRAND NAME Samsung.......
I would never buy a Vizio laptop ....not after I bought one of their TVs

Originally Posted by goibhniu (Post 57065580)

Do you have some hard info that leads you to make the comment about April? Samsung announced a refresh of most of their stuff at CES two weeks ago, and the impression (based on a bit of speculation) was that they would be released in late January/early February. I've seen price drops on this unit (which looks to be getting replaced by the Series 7 Ultra), and similar price drops on the Series 7 Chronos (which is definitely getting replaced by an improved Chronos). I think that these price drops are to clear inventory before the new products are released in a couple of weeks.

Originally Posted by dougpaw57 (Post 57019812)

Finally, 1600x900 resolution. There has been so much 1366x768 crap lately, it's good to see something you can do real work on, not just watch movies.

Originally Posted by krice (Post 57065530)

Man... I wish I can do the same HAHA


I saw this deal yesterday. People were arguing (for lack of a better word) that this laptop is not worth it bla bla... but some people were saying that its worth it for an ultrabook etc etc. I am glad that it made it to the frontpage. highfive OP :wave:

Originally Posted by pilot757 (Post 57032388)

Haswell will be 10% faster then Ivy Bridge and give you a significant boost in battery life. Intel's focus on Haswell is power savings and GPU performance. The GPU will be double the power that is in Ivy Bridge. I just read an article where they compared it to the NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M.

Originally Posted by GrandmasterBBC (Post 57051904)

The HD4000 graphics would be a nice improvement for my needs, but I am very eager to see what the next generation will do, particularly in the gaming department. If it will really be comparable to a GT 650M then Intel integrated graphics will have finally reached a performance level that can actually be used for gaming. I can't wait to see what they can do!

Edit: I think I found the article you are referring to (although it is comparing performance of the top of the line Haswell desktop unit to that of a laptop):

Originally Posted by ilikemoneys (Post 57039976)

I have never really reccomended them but they are the best of the Cheap Chinese Brands(they are actually Chinese) like HP(use chinese components), Dell (use chinese components), and such. Lately though, I get just as many of them for rapair as I do the latter.

Originally Posted by asbad (Post 57051222)

I dont see the big deal on this. This is almost the same specs of a netbook for several hundred dollars more. Your not going to be able to play any decent games with that processor speed. My acer netbook that i paid 250 for a year and a half ago has a dual core that goes up to 1.3 ghz. This just seems like overpriced nothingness. Maybe im missing something.

Originally Posted by GrandmasterBBC (Post 57051904)

The HD4000 graphics would be a nice improvement for my needs, but I am very eager to see what the next generation will do, particularly in the gaming department. If it will really be comparable to a GT 650M

Originally Posted by Ransom (Post 57065762)

Here's a better option:

http://store.vizio.com/ct14a4.html

Better specs across the board, includes 2 year warranty and 1 year subscription to Hulu (if that's worth anything to you.) $150 more and it's not even on sale.

Oh dang, here it is on sale for $50 more.

http://www.microsoftstore.com/sto...k_s26sDMZQ

Originally Posted by just1guy (Post 57065574)

so you are comparing a $900 used item to a brand new $700 item with a warranty from Amazon ?!

Originally Posted by OfficerCamp (Post 57066450)

Just thought I'd chime in with some user experience from when I purchased this laptop the last time it was $700. The first model I received had a few dead pixels. One pretty close to center, and a group of 3-4 near the bottom. I returned it for a replacement. The next unit had a faulty OS, it just acted very buggy, launched random apps unexpectedly and also made a weird clicking noise. I returned that one for a refund.

Amazon had a top notch return policy. So if you purchase, give your new computer a thorough inspection. I think it's a great thin, light casual performance machine, as long as you get a flawless unit.

EDIT. Also battery life was tremendous. It never went under 50% for any reason.

Originally Posted by MusicsAllWeGot (Post 57023090)

Here's the thing. A few years ago, any laptop would have costed you a good chunk of money, yes they were big in size and yet you were stuck with running whatever it could handle. For the few that knew how to tweak/add hardware, well you could get the most out of it.
Now we have 'ultrabooks' where the cpu alone exceeds in performance, compared to those of Celeron or Core 2 duo, which I find amazing. The price? This is definitely below and much faster than something you could have gotten about 2-3+ years ago. Shouting '2nd gen' does not mean a bad thing. If you're trying to play BF3, Skyrim, or whatever game that you want to run in super ultra magnificent out of this world graphics, then yes, this laptop isn't for you.

But if you're looking to write reports, spreadsheets, watch movies, surf the web or something similar, without the extra weight or thickness, then this is a good buy. Yes there were chances to catch a deal on the 3rd gen SS9 ultrabooks, if you were lucky, for about the same price too but even that didn't last long. And yes you could wait a few more months for Haswell to come out, rumor is June, but like always anytime you wait, everything eventually drops in price.

Originally Posted by just1guy (Post 57065522)

Vizio ?! whaaaaaaat ? You should compare that to Toshiba or Acer , not BRAND NAME Samsung.......
I would never buy a Vizio laptop ....not after I bought one of their TVs

Originally Posted by Ransom (Post 57065590)

Well that's your loss. Here at Slickdeals those who know tend to rate products based on their individual quality/specs/performance and not a logo.

I absolutely love Samsung in general, but Vizio's new laptop lines are killing them right now. Better specs, fantastic build, better screen, and zero crapware. Yup, it comes with JUST Windows. No reinstall/repartitioning necessary, unlike this "premium" product.

Go ahead and spend more to clear out their Sandy Bridge stock. Up to you.

Originally Posted by bigm (Post 57066654)

You're right this certainly seems better beyond the name brand. Anyone else with an opinion on vizio? Thinking about going this route instead.

Originally Posted by bigm (Post 57066654)

You're right this certainly seems better beyond the name brand. Anyone else with an opinion on vizio? Thinking about going this route instead.

Originally Posted by bigm (Post 57066654)

You're right this certainly seems better beyond the name brand. Anyone else with an opinion on vizio? Thinking about going this route instead.

Originally Posted by m00ky (Post 57066102)

Apparently these are $699 right now at newegg also, by the way.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834131384

Originally Posted by Ransom (Post 57067444)

I actually just ordered the CT15-A5. That's what I get for getting on slickdeals in the afternoon lol. If a 15" isn't too big, it's on sale for $799 w/ 5% CB on Shop Discover.

http://www.microsoftstore.com/sto...znv7fqnzzk

Ivy i7 + 1080p ips + 256 SSD. Sheesh.

Originally Posted by jedialison (Post 57067534)

This was $799 with a $200 gc not long ago... just saying, I think it's still over-priced. Also, it's been this price off and on since the first week in Jan, and all of a sudden it's a burning FP deal today???

Been watching the arguing all day about sandy/ivy bridge and the superior screen. I'm one that won't buy less than 1080p because I tend to have a lot going on the screen, but I've seen a good many ivy bridge lately with upgradable memory and more disc space for a lot less. Granted, they were dell. lenovo, etc (yes, I now put lenovo in the same class as dell except some of the thinkpads), but given this is last gen, even giving it $100 for the upgraded screen and brand name, I still think it's $50-$100 overpriced.

I agree there isn't a lot of difference in everyday performance, but graphics, yes, and it's underclocked to boot.

I'd also like to point out that this isn't a "real" 9 series - it's the same form factor, yes, but it's more cheaply made, different materials/build quality, so I wouldn't rush off thinking you are getting a great deal on a 9 series, because it's not. This is for all of you who are comparing it to a macbook air...

Originally Posted by goibhniu (Post 57065998)

It's been years since we've seen laptops that weren't made in China. Even MacBooks (with their generally excellent build quality) are made in China.

Originally Posted by ilikemoneys (Post 57067854)

I see plenty of mobos on MBPs go out too so don't claim excellent build quality on them. Each of those companies tends to use the cheapest components they can find for their boards. I have been fairly pleased with the quality of newer MBAs though and have yet to work on a Retina MB. Samsung, Asus, Toshiba, and Sony don't use many Chinese plants and I rarely have issues come in with their motherboards/mainboards. Plus, I have been saying for a couple years now that the cheaper labor leading to suicidal workers ultimately increases costs to the end consumer and is just plain wrong.

Originally Posted by MusicsAllWeGot (Post 57023090)

Here's the thing. A few years ago, any laptop would have costed you a good chunk of money, yes they were big in size and yet you were stuck with running whatever it could handle. For the few that knew how to tweak/add hardware, well you could get the most out of it.
Now we have 'ultrabooks' where the cpu alone exceeds in performance, compared to those of Celeron or Core 2 duo, which I find amazing. The price? This is definitely below and much faster than something you could have gotten about 2-3+ years ago. Shouting '2nd gen' does not mean a bad thing. If you're trying to play BF3, Skyrim, or whatever game that you want to run in super ultra magnificent out of this world graphics, then yes, this laptop isn't for you.

But if you're looking to write reports, spreadsheets, watch movies, surf the web or something similar, without the extra weight or thickness, then this is a good buy. Yes there were chances to catch a deal on the 3rd gen SS9 ultrabooks, if you were lucky, for about the same price too but even that didn't last long. And yes you could wait a few more months for Haswell to come out, rumor is June, but like always anytime you wait, everything eventually drops in price.

Originally Posted by kDubz (Post 57068206)

I stopped reading after "costed".

Originally Posted by ilikemoneys (Post 57067854)

I see plenty of mobos on MBPs go out too so don't claim excellent build quality on them.

Originally Posted by junhao123 (Post 57068338)

Too slow. Joke already made a couple pages ago.

Originally Posted by goibhniu (Post 57068478)

I'm making a bit of an assumption, but it sounds like you're in the repair business. If so, I have no doubt that you've seen your share of broken/defective Apples. But then you're going to because that's your job.

When I refer to Apple's "generally excellent build quality", I'm referring to their ratings from Consumer Reports and similar reliability surveys.

Originally Posted by TheBagman (Post 57069104)

http://slickdeals.net/f/5815676-L...st57068902

Better deal. Current gen i7

Originally Posted by junhao123 (Post 57067972)

This. I'm just going to leave this here:
http://gizmodo.com/5406415/laptop...out-on-top

If anything, it shows that "you get what you pay for", regardless of brand.

Originally Posted by Kryspie (Post 57065506)

http://slickdeals.net/permadeal/8...-windows-7

save $250 and get a CPU just as fast ....only if your willing to sacrifice a pound and 1368x768 .... i know, tough call right? :lmao:

Originally Posted by drymonkey (Post 57068588)

I own the 15 inch version of both samsung series 9 and vizio. Vizio pretty much owns the samsung in all specs except memory, keyboard, and card reader. Sadly, the vizio went back due to horrible battery life. You be really lucky if you ever cross 4 hours on Vizio. With the series 9, you should not have any problem hitting 6-7 hours on a consistent basis. The top of the Samsung is fingerprint magnet while the Vizio has a much cleaner look If Vizio could improved its battery life, throw in a backlit keyboard and sd card reader for the price of $700-$800, then it got itself a sure winner.

Originally Posted by goibhniu (Post 57068478)

I'm making a bit of an assumption, but it sounds like you're in the repair business. If so, I have no doubt that you've seen your share of broken/defective Apples. But then you're going to because that's your job.

When I refer to Apple's "generally excellent build quality", I'm referring to their ratings from Consumer Reports and similar reliability surveys.

Originally Posted by ilikemoneys (Post 57069004)

Fair assumption and you are correct. However, my was statement was based off of my repair history over the last 4.5 years. Apple uses great screens and decent batteries that rarely have issues but their mobos are generally par to subpar. They also have a lot of hard drive failures in MBPros due to the design being bad for spindle disks. Apple is actually rated usually in the middle of the pack for reliability in most of the surveys I have seen in the last few years. Maybe we are looking at different info.

Originally Posted by Kryspie (Post 57069298)

^Ivy Bridge Ultrabook just a pound heavier and $500 OTD


Anyone??Bueller? Bueller??

Originally Posted by goibhniu (Post 57068478)

I'm making a bit of an assumption, but it sounds like you're in the repair business. If so, I have no doubt that you've seen your share of broken/defective Apples. But then you're going to because that's your job.

When I refer to Apple's "generally excellent build quality", I'm referring to their ratings from Consumer Reports and similar reliability surveys.

Originally Posted by zeth006 (Post 57069856)

Nah, I've seen the same ratings and rankings on Square Trade. They never top the ratings. They're actually always middle of the pack behind the likes of Asus, an oh-so-low-quality PC brand.

"Build quality" is a subjective term when it's used. I've noticed people who orgasm about "build quality" are more so referring to how a notebook feels to the touch, not whether it would withstand a drop test or have longevity over a 3 or 4-year period.

Originally Posted by ilikemoneys (Post 57071418)

I agree with your statements on the meaning of build quality, but I wouldn't call Asus a low quality PC brand. Sure they can have some spotty QC on the minor things, but they tend to put out reliable, durable computers and components. Toshiba and Sony have been the best for QC in laptops for a while, but neither have put out a truly impressive ultrabook like a zenbook prime or Seires 9(Save for the Vaio Z, which is incredible, but it technically isn't an ultra). I have been eagerly awaiting this years releases hoping for something from my 4 brands of choice.

My comment about the MBP design being bad for hard drives is that they leave a lot of room for the drive to vibrate and have no cushion to prevent it. Force doesn't as easily transfer through metal as it does through a solid plastic so if one is to use an aluminum build, it must have some kind of cushion, be thin enough to reduce vibration, or use 7-9.5mm SSD or a preferable mSATA SSD.

Originally Posted by PitPirate (Post 57050988)

Listen, this isn't the defrauding-bestbuy-out-of-amazon-giftcards kinda hot deal, but its a decent price for a very nice ultrabook.

Will there be better deals out there, especially on the refurb market? Yes, absolutely, and I have been scouting for one for a 15 inch screen. But if you are lazy and want something new, this is actually a great price and extremely easy.