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mattpatt 01-22-2013 04:39 AM

AMMO: Independence Ammunition 5.56x45mm NATO 55 Grain Midway USA $8.99/20rd.
 
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Not the best deal but if you need it....

Independence Ammunition 5.56x45mm NATO 55 Grain M193 Full Metal Jacket in stock right now at Midway USA! $8.99/20 rounds.

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/...-box-of-20


Product Information
Shop more Independence Ammunition products Independence Ammunition is loaded to military specifications by one of the best known Israel ammunition manufacturers, who loads ammunition for the Israel Defense Forces. This round was manufactured to give the AR-15 enthusiast a great choice for an affordable round for target shooting, training and practice. This ammunition is new production, non-corrosive, in boxer-primed, reloadable brass cases.

Please Note:While the 5.56x45mm NATO and .223 Remington are interchangeable, the 5.56 is a military round that runs at higher pressures than its .223 counterpart.

Technical Information
Caliber: 5.56x45mm NATO
Bullet Weight: 52 Grains
Bullet Style: Full Metal Jacket Boat Tail
Case Type: Brass


Ballistics Information
Muzzle Velocity: 3240 fps
Muzzle Energy: 1282 ft. lbs.

mward28 01-22-2013 04:59 AM

One of the better deals I've seen online in a while. Anything wrong with this manufacturer?

mr-powers 01-22-2013 05:02 AM

Independence is Owned by Federal and consists of Israeli ammunitions.

lenval 01-22-2013 05:04 AM

Sweet, just bought a few hundred. Now I can finally test out the rifle I just bought!

Jrchip 01-22-2013 05:05 AM

5.56 and .223 are NOT interchangable! (I know thats just copied from the website)
.223 is fine in a rifle chambered in 5.56, but if your rifle is chambered in .223, it can be dangerous to your gun and yourself to shoot 5.56 in it.



I'm not sure if Independence is even a manufacturer.
I bought some of their 9mm, and it was actually Blazer brass in an Independence box (ok with me).

akaskoot 01-22-2013 05:10 AM

Could only get 500 rounds............

onedeetentee 01-22-2013 05:10 AM

They're limiting the amount you can buy.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mattpatt (Post 57026032)
Not the best deal but if you need it....

They're limiting the amount you can buy, which is fair.

netryeder 01-22-2013 05:16 AM

Ordered 500. Couldn't find any code online that worked for free shipping or a discount, too bad. But in this current climate $0.48 a round for brass is acceptable.

morpheus282 01-22-2013 05:18 AM

Shipping is nearly $20 for 5 boxes. I hate to be the "shipping kills the deal" guy, but that pushes the cost per round up to almost 70 cents per round. If shipping stays flat for more boxes then it's a better deal. Thanks for posting in stock ammo, but I'll sit this one out. The drought will be over soon enough.

ignaciolt 01-22-2013 05:24 AM

Title states 55 grain and tech specs state 52 grain?!?! I'm assuming that it is 55 grain since it is M193 ammo

mward28 01-22-2013 05:30 AM

Shipping for my 20 boxes was $16.

fantomas 01-22-2013 05:30 AM

Looks like a good deal if you need it now. I don't know what 5.56 prices were a month and a half ago, but I'm looking at $242 for 25 boxes including shipping. 25 boxes was $17 for shipping and 1 box was about $15 lol... of course $1.20 isn't a good deal, but if you max out on the boxes $0.48 is

akaskoot 01-22-2013 05:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by morpheus282 (Post 57026536)
Shipping is nearly $20 for 5 boxes. I hate to be the "shipping kills the deal" guy, but that pushes the cost per round up to almost 70 cents per round. If shipping stays flat for more boxes then it's a better deal. Thanks for posting in stock ammo, but I'll sit this one out. The drought will be over soon enough.


238.99 / 500 = 0.47798

48 cents per round if you buy the 500 quantity.

EPIC404 01-22-2013 05:36 AM

This is a great deal (right now). In for 500 rounds which puts me at about 48 cents/round after shipping.

deceit 01-22-2013 05:42 AM

Repped, been looking for 223/556 ammo for the last month. Thank you!

morpheus282 01-22-2013 06:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by akaskoot (Post 57026764)
238.99 / 500 = 0.47798

48 cents per round if you buy the 500 quantity.

That was my point, if you only need a smallish quantity then this may not be the best deal. If the shipping charge is flat rate then it becomes a better deal at a larger quantity.

mattpatt 01-22-2013 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by morpheus282 (Post 57026536)
Shipping is nearly $20 for 5 boxes. I hate to be the "shipping kills the deal" guy, but that pushes the cost per round up to almost 70 cents per round. If shipping stays flat for more boxes then it's a better deal. Thanks for posting in stock ammo, but I'll sit this one out. The drought will be over soon enough.

I was going to buy 5 boxes when I seen it was in stock but shipping killed it for me too so I thought I'd share my find with the group here so those that could afford to buy 500 rounds could get in on it. I just can't afford 500 rounds right now.

morpheus282 01-22-2013 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattpatt (Post 57027224)
I was going to buy 5 boxes when I seen it was in stock but shipping killed it for me too so I thought I'd share my find with the group here so those that could afford to buy 500 rounds could get in on it. I just can't afford 500 rounds right now.

Ditto. If I can find a decent deal on ~100-200 I'll jump on it. The drought will end soon enough. As it is I can usually find ammo in stock locally often enough that I can pick up about two boxes a week. If your local stock is totally depleted and you can afford to buy in bulk then this is a great deal.

newellfinder 01-22-2013 06:08 AM

Independence Ammunition 5.56x45mm Case of 500 (25 Boxes of 20)
 
Independence Ammunition 5.56x45mm NATO 55 Grain M193 Full Metal Jacket Boat Tail Case of 500 (25 Boxes of 20) 219.99+ shipping in stock. Product #: 449272


Quote:

Originally Posted by mattpatt (Post 57026032)
Not the best deal but if you need it....

Independence Ammunition 5.56x45mm NATO 55 Grain M193 Full Metal Jacket in stock right now at Midway USA! $8.99/20 rounds.

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/...-box-of-20


Product Information
Shop more Independence Ammunition products Independence Ammunition is loaded to military specifications by one of the best known Israel ammunition manufacturers, who loads ammunition for the Israel Defense Forces. This round was manufactured to give the AR-15 enthusiast a great choice for an affordable round for target shooting, training and practice. This ammunition is new production, non-corrosive, in boxer-primed, reloadable brass cases.

Please Note:While the 5.56x45mm NATO and .223 Remington are interchangeable, the 5.56 is a military round that runs at higher pressures than its .223 counterpart.

Technical Information
Caliber: 5.56x45mm NATO
Bullet Weight: 52 Grains
Bullet Style: Full Metal Jacket Boat Tail
Case Type: Brass


Ballistics Information
Muzzle Velocity: 3240 fps
Muzzle Energy: 1282 ft. lbs.


sfoan 01-22-2013 06:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by morpheus282 (Post 57026536)
Shipping is nearly $20 for 5 boxes. I hate to be the "shipping kills the deal" guy, but that pushes the cost per round up to almost 70 cents per round. If shipping stays flat for more boxes then it's a better deal. Thanks for posting in stock ammo, but I'll sit this one out. The drought will be over soon enough.

It was only $16 for 25 boxes to So.Cal

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattpatt (Post 57026032)
Not the best deal but if you need it....

Independence Ammunition 5.56x45mm NATO 55 Grain M193 Full Metal Jacket in stock right now at Midway USA! $8.99/20 rounds.

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/...-box-of-20


Product Information
Shop more Independence Ammunition products Independence Ammunition is loaded to military specifications by one of the best known Israel ammunition manufacturers, who loads ammunition for the Israel Defense Forces. This round was manufactured to give the AR-15 enthusiast a great choice for an affordable round for target shooting, training and practice. This ammunition is new production, non-corrosive, in boxer-primed, reloadable brass cases.

Please Note:While the 5.56x45mm NATO and .223 Remington are interchangeable, the 5.56 is a military round that runs at higher pressures than its .223 counterpart.

Technical Information
Caliber: 5.56x45mm NATO
Bullet Weight: 52 Grains
Bullet Style: Full Metal Jacket Boat Tail
Case Type: Brass


Ballistics Information
Muzzle Velocity: 3240 fps
Muzzle Energy: 1282 ft. lbs.

Still surprised it hasn't sold out yet

c23118 01-22-2013 06:25 AM

In for 500 rounds at .48 per round. TU!

MrMonkeeMan 01-22-2013 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sfoan (Post 57027610)
It was only $16 for 25 boxes to So.Cal


Still surprised it hasn't sold out yet

Hmmm, it was $19 for shipping to socal for me. Still not that bad considering all the local places not named Turners or Walmart are gouging at $1 per round. Maybe I should sell some if this stuff to them.

sfoan 01-22-2013 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrMonkeeMan (Post 57027710)
Quote:

Originally Posted by sfoan (Post 57027610)
It was only $16 for 25 boxes to So.Cal


Still surprised it hasn't sold out yet

Hmmm, it was $19 for shipping to socal for me. Still not that bad considering all the local places not named Turners or Walmart are gouging at $1 per round. Maybe I should sell some if this stuff to them.

Oops. You're right, it was $19

MTHuynh23 01-22-2013 06:36 AM

in 4 1k rds

the0ne 01-22-2013 06:49 AM

Oos dead now

sfoan 01-22-2013 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the0ne (Post 57028140)
Oos dead now

Still alive

MTHuynh23 01-22-2013 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the0ne (Post 57028140)
Oos dead now

still available

the0ne 01-22-2013 07:02 AM

site is down?

Jassack04 01-22-2013 07:06 AM

Yeah this is really not a bad price, I would pick some up but I already spent too much last week - picked up 1500 rounds of Danish SS109 for 48 cents a round as well.

bstover17 01-22-2013 07:22 AM

I ordered 500 rounds!

sfoan 01-22-2013 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the0ne (Post 57028498)
site is down?

Back up

jt_04 01-22-2013 07:26 AM

thanks op, picked up 500 for $242.00 (rounded up for the NRA donation, that's a nice feature)

sfoan 01-22-2013 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the0ne (Post 57028498)
site is down?

Back up

datbehardwork 01-22-2013 07:33 AM

You all need to stock up to 10,000 rounds for times like these where you don't get caught with little to no ammo and have to pay outrageous prices. I own AR and AK. AK ammo much cheaper by the 1,000 rounds than the AR variety, but it's still stupid for people to OVERPAY for any ammo. It's not going out of existence, not going to be outlawed. Just opprotunist holding back for higher prices and people paying it. This makes us look foolish.
Quit doing it.
p.s. still waiting on a backorder of 600rds. of 7.62x39 for $145 from the sportsmansguide. Figure that out per round. expected shipping is Feb. 4, 2013.

jay_rm 01-22-2013 07:45 AM

Site down again. I got 25 boxes in my cart but can't get back in to check out :(
That's what happens when I sleep late

(edit) Looks like I actually got it entered

morpheus282 01-22-2013 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by datbehardwork (Post 57029290)
You all need to stock up to 10,000 rounds for times like these where you don't get caught with little to no ammo and have to pay outrageous prices. I own AR and AK. AK ammo much cheaper by the 1,000 rounds than the AR variety, but it's still stupid for people to OVERPAY for any ammo. It's not going out of existence, not going to be outlawed. Just opprotunist holding back for higher prices and people paying it. This makes us look foolish.
Quit doing it.
p.s. still waiting on a backorder of 600rds. of 7.62x39 for $145 from the sportsmansguide. Figure that out per round. expected shipping is Feb. 4, 2013.

I agree completely. The price on ammo is going to come back down sooner or later. Magazines over 10 rounds may be banned, but the ammo will always be available. I'm only buying ammo if the price is fair and I need some for the range.

mikey21 01-22-2013 08:06 AM

You are able to order both the 25 boxes@8.99 each and a 25 box pack at 219.99

soupykun 01-22-2013 08:16 AM

In for 500 even though I'm stocked up. Hate shooting my stash w/o resupplying so this should at least let me go back to the range again for a few trips.

Although it's not like this stuff is going away or banned, I guess the fear is that there is a realistic possibility that ammo will require NICS, thereby restricting online ordering (ammo transfers to FFL?) and forcing many to purchase only locally. It would also just add overhead on every ammo dealer, especially the gun show sellers, and the prices will just stay inflated.

In any case, 48c/rnd shipped for IMI M193 is not a horrible price. It was up to around 36-40c/rnd even before the panic buy surge.

neokane 01-22-2013 08:16 AM

Just ordered 500 round.. $.48/round.. with shipping and a $.96 donation.

liquidiq 01-22-2013 08:22 AM

Hey guys, not here to TC, but isn't $450/1000rds a little expensive? I realize currently there is a price spike, but in the not too distant past I believe there were deals at $300/1000 rounds.

On a side note, I don't understand what is driving the ammo hoarding, nobody has mention any limits on ammo during this whole proposed new legislation talk.

maltboy 01-22-2013 08:52 AM

TU for a non-gouger price. Is anyone keeping a list of the vendors who are gouging? That would be useful for when this craziness passes. I won't be buying from CTD or Centerpoint anymore.

PreludePowerR 01-22-2013 08:53 AM

ammo price wont ever go back down to those levels. AIM Surplus said Wolf raised their prices at the end of the year, now its $300/1000 of steel case, used to be $225ish. Wouldnt be surprised if brass ammo makes a similar move up.

soupykun 01-22-2013 09:02 AM

For those ordering 500 anyway, it's cheaper to order a single case. For those looking to order 1000, you can order 1 single case and 25 individual packs.

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/...roductDesc

midnightblade 01-22-2013 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by liquidiq (Post 57030706)
Hey guys, not here to TC, but isn't $450/1000rds a little expensive? I realize currently there is a price spike, but in the not too distant past I believe there were deals at $300/1000 rounds.

On a side note, I don't understand what is driving the ammo hoarding, nobody has mention any limits on ammo during this whole proposed new legislation talk.

Part of the fear is that prices may not go down. Just like how gasoline spiked or hard drive prices went up, manufacturers are now selling ammo for much more than before which means much more profits for them. They'll have no incentive to lower prices, we'll just end up getting used to paying 50 cents a round.

I'm really hoping that prices go down, but I don't have much of a stash built up and I'm getting an itch to go to the range so I'll probably just have to buy at these inflated prices =/

jhooper 01-22-2013 09:13 AM

In for 500! Thanks!!!

$242 shipped to NC w/$1.09 going to the NRA.

kbenson 01-22-2013 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by datbehardwork (Post 57029290)
You all need to stock up to 10,000 rounds for times like these where you don't get caught with little to no ammo and have to pay outrageous prices. I own AR and AK. AK ammo much cheaper by the 1,000 rounds than the AR variety, but it's still stupid for people to OVERPAY for any ammo. It's not going out of existence, not going to be outlawed. Just opprotunist holding back for higher prices and people paying it. This makes us look foolish.
Quit doing it.
p.s. still waiting on a backorder of 600rds. of 7.62x39 for $145 from the sportsmansguide. Figure that out per round. expected shipping is Feb. 4, 2013.


Besides the obvious current high price + unavailability of ammo, why do we need to have 10k in rounds?

BlackHawk77 01-22-2013 09:23 AM

Great price for brass ammo when the steel stuff is selling for around the same price.

brobar 01-22-2013 09:23 AM

About 10 cents a round more than I would like to pay (after shipping)... BUT I haven't been able to get in on any of the deals lately so I jumped on this one. Not a bad price for BRASS... considering the times. I'm seeing steel case go for as much or more lately. In for 25 boxes!

ghostwriter66 01-22-2013 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by datbehardwork (Post 57029290)
You all need to stock up to 10,000 rounds for times like these where you don't get caught with little to no ammo and have to pay outrageous prices. I own AR and AK. AK ammo much cheaper by the 1,000 rounds than the AR variety, but it's still stupid for people to OVERPAY for any ammo. It's not going out of existence, not going to be outlawed. Just opprotunist holding back for higher prices and people paying it. This makes us look foolish.
Quit doing it.
p.s. still waiting on a backorder of 600rds. of 7.62x39 for $145 from the sportsmansguide. Figure that out per round. expected shipping is Feb. 4, 2013.

True - but I honestly see them stopping INTERNET sales (which somehow the democrats will see as a big victory for no reason) and also TAXING ammunition sales ... they won't mess with the guns at all - toooo much 2nd Amendment concern and NRA blowback -- but nothing wrong with restricting ammo by taxing the hell out of it and restricting access .. also the DEMS will make it harder (politically) for the big stores to carry it like Academy and WAL-MART and BIG 5 so yes - there may soon be a large inventory back in stock - and no way to get to it ... AMMO lasts for decades - i bought a ton of rounds of 5.56 7 years ago for next to nothing - and now do nothing but slowly restock what I need when i find good prices - so turns out that buying that much ammo 7 years ago actually was a better deal than buying gold ...LOL

sdmahoney 01-22-2013 09:25 AM

With all the people thinking this is a good deal, it won't be hard for the stores to keep the prices high once stock comes back.

datbehardwork 01-22-2013 09:34 AM

Response to why you need 10,000 rounds
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kbenson (Post 57032672)
Besides the obvious current high price + unavailability of ammo, why do we need to have 10k in rounds?


Believe Ghostwriter66 answered your question in his reponse to my post: True - but I honestly see them stopping INTERNET sales (which somehow the demoscrats will see asa big victory for no reason) and also TAXING ammunition sales ... they won't mess with the guns at all - toooo much 2nd Amendment concern and NRA blowback -- but nothing wrong with restricting ammo by taxing the hell out of it and restricting access .. also the DEMS will make it harder (politically) for the big stores to carry it like Academy and WALMART and BIG 5 so yes - there may soon be a large inventory back in stock - and no way to get to it ... AMMO lasts fior decades - i bought a ton of rounds of 5.56 7 years ago for next to nothing - and now do nothing but slowly restock what I need when i find good prices - so turns out that buying that much ammo 7 years ago actually was a better deal than buying gold ...LOL

Thus, many things can happen over your lifetime and 10,000rds. really isn't that much to stockpile. Ammo can last long enough to be passed down to future generations tax free.
If the US Govt. wants to stop or slow down gun sales they will just tax the heck out of ammo. You want to wait for that to happen, that is your choice. Me, I like to be prepared. Just like buying AK's for under $500 and AR's for under $800 now that panic has spread.
You do what you want. If you want to be caught short and don't mind being ripped off, just keep 200rds. around and pay the going market price when you need it.
p.s. plus all this weight ways down my 1350lb. safe even more. lol

midnightblade 01-22-2013 09:40 AM

Picked up a case for $240 after shipping with round up. 48 cents a round doesn't make me happy, but what else are you gonna do in this environment?

mayassa 01-22-2013 09:40 AM

Thanks OP and Rep!

sfoan 01-22-2013 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sdmahoney (Post 57032774)
With all the people thinking this is a good deal, it won't be hard for the stores to keep the prices high once stock comes back.

If Internet sales are banned, most likely on commifornia, prices will be like this anyway

kbenson 01-22-2013 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by datbehardwork (Post 57033024)
Believe Ghostwriter66 answered your question in his reponse to my post: True - but I honestly see them stopping INTERNET sales (which somehow the demoscrats will see asa big victory for no reason) and also TAXING ammunition sales ... they won't mess with the guns at all - toooo much 2nd Amendment concern and NRA blowback -- but nothing wrong with restricting ammo by taxing the hell out of it and restricting access .. also the DEMS will make it harder (politically) for the big stores to carry it like Academy and WALMART and BIG 5 so yes - there may soon be a large inventory back in stock - and no way to get to it ... AMMO lasts fior decades - i bought a ton of rounds of 5.56 7 years ago for next to nothing - and now do nothing but slowly restock what I need when i find good prices - so turns out that buying that much ammo 7 years ago actually was a better deal than buying gold ...LOL

Thus, many things can happen over your lifetime and 10,000rds. really isn't that much to stockpile. Ammo can last long enough to be passed down to future generations tax free.
If the US Govt. wants to stop or slow down gun sales they will just tax the heck out of ammo. You want to wait for that to happen, that is your choice. Me, I like to be prepared. Just like buying AK's for under $500 and AR's for under $800 now that panic has spread.
You do what you want. If you want to be caught short and don't mind being ripped off, just keep 200rds. around and pay the going market price when you need it.
p.s. plus all this weight ways down my 1350lb. safe even more. lol


Did not think about the tax "incentive"

repped

ghostwriter66 01-22-2013 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kbenson (Post 57033266)
Did not think about the tax "incentive"

repped

Why do i need 10,000 rounds now??

Here is what I am envisioning. Once again – they will leave the 2nd amendment alone totally - but – they will TAX ammo at a substantial rate – I can easily see it being 50-100% for certain ammo. They will get away with it by saying that the tax will go toward Educational programs in gun safety and to offset medical bills for those being "slaughtered" by these "terrible" rounds. If you don't believe they will – 30 years ago we had the same argument about how to stop people from smoking – they couldn't go after the cigarette industry for obvious political reasons so they simply taxed the heck out of it.. didn't stop a single person from smoking but did make the bleeding hearts happy and did put allot of money in politician "tax" pockets. (I use to pay $1.00 a pack – I now pay $5.00) ...

So first they tax the heck out of ammo ... then they make it illegal to do a direct purchase of ammo from the Internet .. once again there is historical precedence for this (certain alcohol sales).. their argument will be that some 15 year "crazed" kid will get the ammo delivered to his house and go on a rampage (never has happened before but why let the facts slow you down) ... so they will make all ammo that is ordered off the internet have to go through your local FFL ... he though will have to charge you not only a fee for doing this but yet another FFL "ammo" Tax in order to cover the ammo for insurance reasons in case the ammo that he sales you is used in a crime. Once again – that fee will be paid to the govt. So so far you have had to pay a tax on the purchase, a fee on the FFL transfer, and a tax on the ammo that is picked up from the FFL.

And who knows – the govt may make it illegal for USPS or FEDEX or UPS to ship ammo without special permits they have to pay for and thus that cost is passed on to you..

So – the days of getting 1000 rd for even $600 are about to be put to an end. We will see people purchasing certain "evil" rounds for $1.50 a round plus and being told they are lucky they are able to get it...

Also – after all of that gets put in motion (and the Dems are happy because it makes it look like they are doing something to help society PLUS generating millions of dollars in extra taxes) they will then decide that all "assault weapons" must have a stamp affixed to it to show that it meets all govt safety requirements. Once again – they aren't taking your guns or messing with the 2nd Amendment – they are simply taxing them. Totally legal by the constitution and federal laws. So expect about a $200 a weapon "special use " tax to be affixed to anything that looks scary at all..

if you can't take things from people – simply tax it to death – and then less and less folks will want it ...

Once again – they are NOT going to take the guns or magazines or ammo – you are just going to have to pay for the luxury of having it ...

Hilltopper03 01-22-2013 10:06 AM

OOS, thx for posting though. Repped.

akaskoot 01-22-2013 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soupykun (Post 57032050)
For those ordering 500 anyway, it's cheaper to order a single case. For those looking to order 1000, you can order 1 single case and 25 individual packs.

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/...roductDesc


Good thinking!! Took your advice. :worship:

BlackHawk77 01-22-2013 10:31 AM

Damn OOS by the time they approved my FOID card

67L88Stingray 01-22-2013 10:33 AM

shows unavailable for me on all amounts

cal220 01-22-2013 10:34 AM

Under what circumstances does a civilian need 10,000+ rounds at any given time?

Step 1: manufacture ammo
Step 2: invoke a sense of fear / hysteria / paranoia amongst the low-hanging fruit
Step 3: profit

What a boon for gun and ammo manufacturers and retailers. . .

ViciousTide 01-22-2013 11:38 AM

Man is ammunition getting expensive! Darn governmental control!

RLeav20717 01-22-2013 11:43 AM

You can always sell your boxes for crazy prices like the ones on Armslist (1000rds for 900, lol).

Buy 500 here for 240 shipped, and sell 200 to armslist for 260 ($.77/rd) ...crazy thing is people will pay that.

Thanks OP, actually managed to buy this via my iPhone...thankfully the site never crashed for me

PreludePowerR 01-22-2013 11:51 AM

im glad i always bought ammo deals whenever they appeared during non frenzy times. Ammo prices can only go up in this climate and economy. Rock solid investment in metal commodities

datbehardwork 01-22-2013 11:54 AM

Protect
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cal220 (Post 57034932)
Under what circumstances does a civilian need 10,000+ rounds at any given time?

Step 1: manufacture ammo
Step 2: invoke a sense of fear / hysteria / paranoia amongst the low-hanging fruit
Step 3: profit

What a boon for gun and ammo manufacturers and retailers. . .

Don't forget the most important one: To keep you higher hanging fruit at bay when society breaks down and you and your clueless relatives go looking for food and try and steal it from us lower hanging fruit.

p.s. I've owned much ammo long, long before this current crazy state you liberals put us into, so there is no hysteria from most of us. Now I may profit by selling you uppidy-ups some of my ammo when things get really bad and it's a necessity. Course it's gonna cost you an arm and a leg; maybe even a daughter if she's good looking enough:)

brobar 01-22-2013 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cal220 (Post 57034932)
Under what circumstances does a civilian need 10,000+ rounds at any given time?

It is called PRACTICE and PROFICIENCY! Between range time and competitions... I go through several thousand rounds a year. What irks me is you have anti-gunners who say "the average person carrying a gun isn't proficient and doesn't get enough practice with their firearm" yet those same anti-gunners are trying to limit the number of rounds the average person can access and then tax the hell out of the ones they can get their hands on. That doesn't make a lick of sense to me. If they are afraid the average citizen isn't proficient and doesn't get enough practice / range time... then shouldn't they be trying to make ammo more easily accessible and affordable so that the average citizen can afford more range time? It seems their priorities are completely bass ackwards!

If proficiency is the concern... make range time more affordable and easily accessible... NOT more expensive, harder to get and limit the number of rounds they can get their hands on.

ghostwriter66 01-22-2013 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cal220 (Post 57034932)
Under what circumstances does a civilian need 10,000+ rounds at any given time?

Step 1: manufacture ammo
Step 2: invoke a sense of fear / hysteria / paranoia amongst the low-hanging fruit
Step 3: profit

What a boon for gun and ammo manufacturers and retailers. . .

Excuse me but it wasn't either the ammo manufacturers or the gun owners that created this hysteria ...it was YOUR elected leaders like Feinstein who said that they wouldn't be happy until all the weapons, magazines and ammo was safely off the street .. and YOUR president backed up the hysteria by saying he wanted a gun control plan within 7 days of the Sandy Hook incident and that he would use Executive orders to get around constitution ... SO your Steps are completely wrong

kbenson 01-22-2013 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ghostwriter66 (Post 57037920)
Excuse me but it wasn't either the ammo manufacturers or the gun owners that created this hysteria ...it was YOUR elected leaders like Frankeinstein who said that they wouldn't be happy until all the weapons, magazines and ammo was safely off the street .. and YOUR president backed up the hysteria by saying he wanted a gun control plan within 7 days of the Sandy Hook incident and that he would use Executive orders to get around constitution ... SO your Steps are completely wrong


Fixed the typo 4 u:lmao:

damnthatsadeal 01-22-2013 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Jrchip (Post 57026344)
5.56 and .223 are NOT interchangable! (I know thats just copied from the website)
.223 is fine in a rifle chambered in 5.56, but if your rifle is chambered in .223, it can be dangerous to your gun and yourself to shoot 5.56 in it.


Truth^ and repped

cal220 01-22-2013 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ghostwriter66 (Post 57037920)
Excuse me but it wasn't either the ammo manufacturers or the gun owners that created this hysteria ...it was YOUR elected leaders like Feinstein who said that they wouldn't be happy until all the weapons, magazines and ammo was safely off the street .. and YOUR president backed up the hysteria by saying he wanted a gun control plan within 7 days of the Sandy Hook incident and that he would use Executive orders to get around constitution ... SO your Steps are completely wrong

I am not sure I understand all those "YOU"s and "YOUR"s, unless they are just uninformed blanket generalizations. I am pro-gun, though I am anti-gun lobby. The NRA is one of primary sources for the hysteria, and the NRA, and it's various lobbying and fundraising affiliates, do not represent me, though they may want me (and you) to believe they do. They represent the gun industry. That said, I keep enough ammo on hand for reasonable personal defense purposes, and see no need to hoard. I will keep buying gun-related public securities, while the rest of you keep justifying the price for those stocks. Thanks.

brobar 01-22-2013 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by cal220 (Post 57038460)
I see no need to hoard.

It isn't hoarding if you use it!

ghostwriter66 01-22-2013 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by cal220 (Post 57038460)
That said, I keep enough ammo on hand for reasonable personal defense purposes, and see no need to hoard. I will keep buying gun-related public securities, while the rest of you keep justifying the price for those stocks. Thanks.

a. Yeah good luck on using those Publicly traded Stocks as the bad guys are coming thru your door...

b. Obviously your definition and mine of what constitutes "reasonable personal defense" amounts differ. i doubt that a box of 50 rounds of ammo is going to keep the bad guys from gettng me and mine for very long. Some of us (not me) apparently have faith that the Po-Po are going to suddenly have nothing to do but drop everything and come to my house and rescue me... well that is great if there is still a Police Force, if they haven't been federalized to protect some govt building, or they didn't do what 50% of cops did during Katrina and just say "screw it" (which of course is exactly what i would have done and said myself so no worries there).. there comes a point that one must realize that bad things happen to good people - no matter how bad you wish it away ... and that when those times happen its left up to you to protect your own ... becuase i will be too busy protecting my own to even remotely help you...

Daekwan 01-22-2013 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by cal220 (Post 57038460)
I am not sure I understand all those "YOU"s and "YOUR"s, unless they are just uninformed blanket generalizations. I am pro-gun, though I am anti-gun lobby. The NRA is one of primary sources for the hysteria, and the NRA, and it's various lobbying and fundraising affiliates, do not represent me, though they may want me (and you) to believe they do. They represent the gun industry. That said, I keep enough ammo on hand for reasonable personal defense purposes, and see no need to hoard. I will keep buying gun-related public securities, while the rest of you keep justifying the price for those stocks. Thanks.

While I agree with your "I see no need to hoard" statement.. who are you to tell others what is "enough ammo on hand for reasonable personal defense purposes". While 50 rounds may be enough for your security. I might consider 500 rounds enough for mine. If someone wants to spend their money on a million rounds of ammo.. then by all means its their money.. and they arent harming anyone buy purchasing ammo.

Once we get into this judgement of others.. and what they should have and shouldnt have. You start going down that slope of eventually someone judging you. Thats exactly what just happened in NY state.. where now magazines must have 7 or less rounds. Because apparently somebody thought that 10 round magazines were "too much". At the end of the day. It doesnt matter if you have a firearm with 1 round. Or one with 10,000 rounds. If you are a responsible gun owner.. there is no reason for anyone to be worried about what you choose to do with your hard earned money.

sfoan 01-22-2013 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by brobar (Post 57037556)
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Originally Posted by cal220 (Post 57034932)
Under what circumstances does a civilian need 10,000+ rounds at any given time?

It is called PRACTICE and PROFICIENCY! Between range time and competitions... I go through several thousand rounds a year. What irks me is you have anti-gunners who say "the average person carrying a gun isn't proficient and doesn't get enough practice with their firearm" yet those same anti-gunners are trying to limit the number of rounds the average person can access and then tax the hell out of the ones they can get their hands on. That doesn't make a lick of sense to me. If they are afraid the average citizen isn't proficient and doesn't get enough practice / range time... then shouldn't they be trying to make ammo more easily accessible and affordable so that the average citizen can afford more range time? It seems their priorities are completely bass ackwards!

If proficiency is the concern... make range time more affordable and easily accessible... NOT more expensive, harder to get and limit the number of rounds they can get their hands on.

Makes sense. I'll never understand libtard logic.

RLeav20717 01-22-2013 09:23 PM

My order shipped today...very surprising

MTHuynh23 01-22-2013 11:28 PM

1k shipped...thanks again OP!

brobar 01-23-2013 06:58 AM

My order shipped this morning. Glad I was able to get in on a decent deal. While 42 cents a round is slightly higher than I would like to pay for brass... at least it wasn't the 80 cents to $1.15 a round I've been seeing lately (and still selling out). They are showing it should be here tomorrow.

In before the Internet ban! =)

sfoan 01-23-2013 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by RLeav20717 (Post 57050834)
My order shipped today...very surprising

Same here

jhooper 01-24-2013 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by sfoan (Post 57056668)
Same here

Mine is scheduled for delivery tomorrow.

sobitthen 01-25-2013 08:51 AM

Luckily my weapon can shoot both...
From Ruger on Mini-14 Ranch:
The RUGER®
MINI-14®
RANCH RIFLES are chambered for the .223
Remington (5.56mm) cartridge. The Ranch Rifle is designed to use either
standardized U.S. military or factory loaded sporting .223 (5.56mm) cartridges
manufactured in accordance with U.S. industry practice..
If I didn't have a few thou rounds already I would grab up some more...

RLeav20717 01-25-2013 09:53 AM

Got my ammo, time to make some of my money back via armslist, muahhahaha


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