New Lenovo X230T Tablet Laptop with Multitouch $632
 

There are plenty of X230T Tablets in stock on the Lenovo Outlet. These are NEW, not refurbished! Price is $632 + free shipping (I should have mentioned that in the title).

Link to Outlet [lenovo.com]

Important:

Do not filter by "X Series Tablet"

Instead, filter by "X Series" only. Then, filter results by "Price (Low)" and scroll until you get to $630 price, and you should see plenty of tablets in stock. I was pretty surprised to see so many, and hopefully these actually have multitouch unlike the last deal.

Good luck!

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They're not sold out. Filter for x series and x series tablet, sort by lowest price first ,and go to like page 3, where it starts at $600 and up (they're $631.xx)

Order detail is showing that these will include the 3 year depot warranty, making the deal better.

I do see that price, but it's an i3, is still a hot price?

site works better with firefox

Shame, they're i3s. Not too great of resale value. Not bad if you want one for yourself, though!
Note that none of these have webcams!

Resale value are not good whether it is i3 or i5 after 2-3 years. I know this is stupid, but you got to get a apple if you are thinking of good resale value.

he probably means buying these machines and instantly flipping them on ebay

lenovo's hold their value pretty well, especially thinkpads

would buy at $600 if it were i5...

all gone??

We are talking about making money though, not losing money... depreciation sure holds well when you pay over $1k.

i3+HD3000+1366*768
I'll pass.

Anyone know if these have he same touchpad as the X230. I recently got a X230 (non tablet) and hated the trackpad so much that I had to return it.

Also these weight more and are bigger than the x230 non tablet laptops right?

IIRC there was a guy here or another forum that bought a new w701ds, the dual screen laptop, for less than $1k and turned it into $5k. The laptop carries only the first gen core i's and it would still get $2-3k on ebay.

All X220/230(t) laptops have 1366x768 resolution. The rest of your gripes are variably valid.

Why is the resolution not a valid gripe?

The post seemed to imply that if those factors were not an issue, then it might be worth buying. What I'm saying, is that both the X220 and X230 (tablet or not) have a display resolution of 1366x768. As for the other two gripes, they can both be changed, hence the phrase "variably valid." I never said griping about the resolution isn't valid. I simply meant that there is little use in complaining about it because it's not going to improve between different models.

yeah if i were i5 i would jump, but it has no camera, no backlit keyboard, etc.

Thank you OP-in for one. This will be a good replacement for my Thinkpad X61t.

link not working

Why does the website http://outlet.lenovo.com not work for me? It just takes me to the lenovo.com main page, no matter what browser I use. Tried Chrome, IE9, Firefox, Safari, no luck with any of them. Even if I go to Google and click on the outlet.lenovo.com link, still takes me to the main page. WTF?

I think this might happen if the website gets overloaded. It has happened to me before as well. Hopefully it works for you soon!

where does it say multitouch

Display: 12.5" HD WXGA (1366 X 768) FAIL !!!!!

It doesnt work like that, you have to type into the bar "outlet.lenovo.com" exactly as it is with nothing else for it to work.

that's an acceptable resolution for 12.5" but it is pushing it. Anything more and you have to step up.


It's worlds better than a 15.6" 1366x768 monitor...

1600x900 would be nice.

Typing this on a 15.6" display with 1366x768 resolution, I concur.

I hope you have a good quality magnifying glass for 1600x900 on a 12.5 inch screen.

Does the font really shrink on smaller screens? Seems to me things are still nice and readable on 1080p 4-5" smartphone screens...

That was more or less an exaggeration. I guess it depends on the person, but 1366x768 is quite acceptable for a 12.5 inch screen.

Lenovo,

good!,i like it

poor build quality, but new if possible
 

*buy not 'but'

my 2c, FWIW...

JUST 10 min ago finished replacing the broken screen from my x230t I got on the outlet site a few weeks ago (i5, webcam, multitouch, for 630$)

It was a refurb, not new, but thought it was a pretty good deal to replace my old x200t. It seemed like a pretty solid build quality initially, until it broke.

Within a week, screen broke, in a briefcase that had a small bump, that had both the x200t and the x230t. The 200 was fine, the 230 lcd and multitouch digitizer were smashed. No extended warranty available on refurb lenovo outlet. They wanted a THOUSAND dollar retainer, or ~600 bucks for the new screen DIY.

Credit card co wouldn't warranty because refurb.

Bought a 100$ IPS laptop panel from a 3rd party and just finished jerry rigging it together, so now I have basically a regular x230 with a swivel screen and no pen function.

If I could take it back, I would wait to snipe a new one, if only to be able to get a credit card warranty if needed.

Absolutely, on computer screens the fonts and icons are scaled to the pixel, so if the screen size remain the same and resolution increases, the font will decrease. On a smart phone the items are scaled to the screen size, so for example a icon on a iPhone 3GS is exactly the same size on iPhone 4's retina display, except the latter is sharper. People who always demand higher resolution on small laptops screens often overlook this fact, sure you can stick a 1080p screen on a 11.6" but you'll have to manually increase the font size so much just to be able to read anything. A small minority want higher resolution for better productivity (coding), which is a legitimate reason, but 1600x900 on a 12.5" will cause eye strain much sooner.

This is not a hot price at all, I would strongly recommend against it if you are buying for resale.

Cons:

Previous generation Core i3
No webcam
No Bluetooth
No fingerprint reader
Home edition Win 7
3 cell battery

Well it was stated earlier, for resale, it isnt that great. But for personal use, it is a fair deal on a quality laptop.

ThinkPad screens are only durable with the old school ThinkPad clam-shell form factor (these can take quite a bit of pressure when closed) which is only on a handful of ThinkPads generally the X/T series "laptop" variants.

The tablet convertible /newer series lightweight variants that lenovo created to make ThinkPads target consumers abandoned the clam-shell for stylish bezel free streamlined designs which are about as durable physically as every other manufacturer on the market.

Can anyone check out? The ADD TO CART button does nothing for me

default size fonts, 1400x1050 on 12.1" X61T was about the squint limit for me (145 ppi). 1366 x768, while horrible on 15.4" screens, is a much more comfortable 125 ppi. 1600 x 900 would be nice, but I dont mind. BTW, all you SD'ers on the fence, jump to the back of the list for some $660 i5, 6 cell, MT, 128gb ssd, refurb's X230T.

I saw those, but after tax and shipped makes it right at around $700... too much for me.

When will yoga hit the outlets

Great product, I have x41t, x61t, x201t, got an i5 one for 664+ tax. Thx for the post!

Can someone tell me if this a good deal for $ 454 + tax?

ThinkPad X230
Model Highlights
Part number: 2306CTO
Condition: New
Processor
Intel® Core™ i3-2370M Processor (2.40GHz, 3MB L3, 1333MHz)( )
Operating system
Windows 7 Home Premium 64 - English
Graphics
Intel® HD Graphics 3000
Memory
4 GB PC3-12800 DDR3 SDRAM 1600MHz SODIMM Memory
Display
12.5" HD WXGA (1366 X 768) LED backlight" with camera
Pointing device
UltraNav (TrackPoint and TouchPad)
Hard Drive
500GB, 7200RPM Serial ATA 2.5" Hard Drive
Optical Drive
No Optical Included
Battery
4 Cell Lithium Ion Battery (Up to 4 Hours Run Time)
Network Card
11b/g/n Wi-Fi wireless
Bluetooth
Bluetooth
WWAN
Integrated Wireless Wide Area Network upgradable
Finger Print Reader
No Fingerprint Reader
Warranty
1 Year Standard Depot Warranty
Form Factor
Laptop - Black

Woot, I snagged one ($664 + tax, free ship):

Lenovo X230 Tablet
Processor: Intel® Core™ i5-3320M Processor (3M Cache, 2.60 GHz)( )
Operating system: Windows 7 Professional 64 - English
Display: 12.5" HD WXGA (1366 X 768) MultiTouch LED backlight"
Graphics: Intel® HD Graphics 4000
Memory: 4 GB PC3-12800 DDR3 SDRAM 1600MHz SODIMM Memory
Hard Drive: 128GB SATA 2.5" Solid State Drive
Optical Drive: No Optical Included
Battery: ThinkPad Battery 67+ (6 cell)
Warranty: 1 Year Standard Depot Warranty

Funny since I decided to hold off overnight to think for sure on what to get, then woke up this morning deciding I wanted to grab an x230T... and a much better one (this) was available compared to the one I was eyeing last night. :D I have my Windows 8 upgrade ready for it.

Question: Does anyone know if these typically come with 1 DIMM pre-installed (4GB) or is it usually 2 (2x 2GB sticks)?
EDIT: It is supposed to be 1 DIMM preinstalled, with 1 slot open for another stick.

After tax this isn't a good deal for a sandy i3+hd3000+low res.

These convertibles are nothing more than a strong tablet. If that's what your looking for wait for microsoft surface pro which will be released next month.

Actually, these are full-fledged PC's that run Windows, convert into a laptop or a tablet at will, have IPS screens, pressure sensitive stylus for work, strong enough specs to run programs like zBrush sculpting and Photoshop texture painting, even some 3d modeling. 1366x768 isn't low-res for a notebook/convertible of this size. Oh, and it was an ivy i5+hd4000+ssd+good res. :)

This deal and the microsoft surface pro are both full fledged pcs. Both can run those programs. But the microsoft surface pro has several upgrades and a much smaller form factor. Don't spend the almost $700 for this dated hardware and instead wait for the $900 ms surface pro.

Seriously? The surface pro w/ a keyboard will cost over $1000, and while it beats the X230 in terms of battery life and thinner form factor that is all.

I am not sure if you are just trolling or being serious.

So would you even say the $900 Surface Pro will even beat out an X1 Carbon at the same or similar price? There are a couple of those around as well for around that price. New ones could be had for around $840 the other night.

Just an update on this deal-I checked my order status this morning on the new X230T I ordered. The description now shows 'Thinkpad X230 Tablet - 3 Yr Depot'...the 3 year warranty definitely makes this deal a bit better.

This may not be a 'deal' for everyone, but for those of us that use one of these daily it is a very good price.

Does anyone know how long it takes a product to hit the outlet from its release date? I'm looking for a Thinkpad Helix releasing next month....

I still need this for school use... how do i keep missing this !

Not sure, but I saw a Yoga in the outlet recently, if that helps give any idea. I'd say at least a few months from release to outlet.

Upgrades? Like what, the floppy keyboard "cover" and $1100+ price tag (with tax + 128gb ssd)? It's thinner and a bit lighter, but that's really about it... however the screen is only 10.6" vs. the X230 Tablet's 12.5" (which is much better for work uses), and super-high resolution for such a small screen. I paid $700 taxed/shipped and got an Ivy Bridge i5, a screen resolution I could run light 3d gaming on with the HD4000 built in, a much larger screen, 128gb SSD (the base Surface Pro comes with 64gb), and a convertible form factor which is better for my needs including good keyboard and touchpad. Oh, and yes, still much cheaper + built like a workhorse...

Wow that's fast. I thought the Yoga was released sometime in Q4 2012. I also hope that means the Thinkpad Tablet 2 will find itself in the outlet soon... I'm currently caught in between the Tablet 2 and the Helix...

Are these still wrongly spec-ed machines without multi-touch like the ones in an old thread?

Cancelled due to 1 year warranty and Sandy Bridge. Such a shame, too...I've been wanting an x220t/x230t for a while. It will probably be my luck that the specs I was given were wrong and I just cancelled an awesome deal.


I just chatted with the Outlet and they stated that even though the order status states 3yr Depot, it is actually a 1 yr warranty.
Now, for me, I don't know if I want to keep the tablet since my x200 tablet still have warranty till June, and the ONLY real reason I wanted to upgrade was because I can't get Lenovo to extend my x200 warranty again.

I guess I'll have to decide whether the hardware upgrade is really worth it, since I just use the tablet for school and already have a Boe-Hydis display in my x200. I had the chat rep email me a list of specs for the machine as well, and if it's only a Sandy Bridge with HD3000 like the description said, I don't think I'll keep it.

There's really no way to know, which is unfortunate.

I don't think it is, only the ones with BX2 or something like that were. And idk if I will keep mine or to because of that. I got mine for $525 shipped, i5 3320, 4 gb ram, etc. and judging from the one I ordered, the other thread stated it is not multitouch just pen digi.

What do you think? Is it worth it to keep?

Another X230 Tablet like the one I got is up for grabs @ $664 + tax shipped:

http://outlet.lenovo.com/SEUILibr...81-3438CTR

Go get 'er!

The pen only model has Gorilla Glass.
The multitouch model does not have Gorilla Glass.

That didnt answer my question...

Didn't read the thread fully, but you should use their parts look up page and enter your serial number to see what's in the system. GG itself is pretty good for outdoor use other than the obvious con(pen only) and it was once really sought-after item since their retail site always ran out of it quickly. If you must use multitouch, then sell it or otherwise keep it(assuking if you do get the GG variant). They both have their merits.

Mfg P/N FRU P/N Description Serviceable
04Y3098 - - Yes
0A66702 - - Yes
0B36031 - - Yes
0B46388 03X6561 MODULE FRU-Lenovo 4GB PC3-12800 DDR Yes
0B66650 04W1779 Antenna FRU LAN 2x2 3x3 Antenna Yes
0B67282 04T4523 DISKCD FAP Win7HPx64 SP1 US Yes
0B67680 04W6716 CDPOP FRUPlni5-3320M NV Y-AMTY-TPM Yes
0B67716 04W6930 HEATSK FRUCM2FAN IntegrateSVToshiba Yes
0B70562 - - Yes
0B73772 - - Yes
0B73775 - - Yes
0B73776 - - Yes
0C10077 - - Yes
42T1203 42T1204 DRIVEH Tray-SATA7 C320AF Seagate Yes
42T1365 54Y8376 HARD DRIVE FRU DT HDD 320GB MX Yes
42T4418 42T4419 ADAPTR Liteon65W20V2P Yes
42T5093 - - Yes
42X4525 - - Yes
45N1076 - - Yes
60Y3252 60Y3253 ADAPTR FRU TP 22 WLAN Yes
60Y3304 60Y3305 ADAPTR FRU Liteon Bluetooth Yes
71Y9155 - - Yes


This is all it says, but IDK which one is the screen.

Thanks. Finally I can look up the detail configuration of the computer I ordered. Lenovo CS is not helpful at all.

You can't compare something like the Surface Pro and the X1 Carbon because the X1 Carbon doesn't have a pressure sensitive screen like the Surface Pro. At lot of artists buy these tablets for drawing purposes.

Mine has exactly the same configuration. My order is not shipped yet. But if I got it for around five hundred like you did, I'll just keep it.

The X230 Tablet is a far better choice on all fronts for those purposes. I will be using mine for sculpting and texture painting.

How are you guys finding out that parts info on an X230t you don't have yet? When I go to http://ovp.lenovo.com/lenovo-ovp/...dex.action and enter my order #/phone #, I just get a one-line thing saying "order processing 3438CTR" with my price.

EDIT: Found out how here: http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=57171
Here's a parts number PDF: http://download.lenovo.com/parts/...121010.pdf

Doesnt help me too much, it does not list anything on my products page which gives specifics. It does not even show a digitizer pen.

The second PN is the screen but you need the FRU to be sure what you have. The manu number just specs for a 12.5" lcd screen.

For everyone interested, once you have serial + machine type you can look up your parts as configured on your machine here: http://support.lenovo.com/en_US/p...ookup.page

Just shows this:

http://www.screentekinc.com/Lenovo-0A66702.shtml

I hope there is still touch at least either multi. or pen input will work.

If you bought the X230T, it will have the pen input, 256? levels pressure sensitive wacom. If your product page prior to ordering said MT screen, you should get the MT minimum, and if not, its easy to get 100% refunded since what you ordered isnt what you received. Sometimes they upgrade components as well, no guarantees, but Ive seen webcams, higher spec'd screens, SSD's and the like show up. However, the park lookup page I put up with the serial+ machine type is dead on accurate what you'll actually get and you just have to make sure what you ordered matches.

This?:

http://img545.imageshack.us/img54...onfirm.png

I print-screened the page which I ordered from.

Do the x230t's use IPS panels like the x230?

Yes, both versions Multitouch and Pen-Only do.

Yes, Yoga 13 selling on outlet; there is 163 of them available all refurbs

Outlet price:$1,130.00
Outlet sale price:
$791.00
You save:$339.00
Free shipping Offer details
Only 163 left

For all those wondering about the displays on these guys (x220 and x230 tablets/nontablets) - here's my experience (having heavily used the non tablet and multitouch version, briefly used the gorilla glass version):

Non Tablet: In my opinion, the best display of the bunch if you don't need touch input. Even though all three use the same or very similar IPS panels, the multitouch version and the Gorilla glass add an extra layer on top of the base LCD - and you do lose some quality. Also the laptop is overall lighter and feels more sturdy because it doesn't have the swivel hinge. I seem to get better battery life out of the non-tablet version as well.

Multi touch version: The most muddled screen of the three in my opinion. That's not to say it's bad LCD. But in comparison to the other two versions (non touch and gorilla glass) - the image quality suffers the most from the multitouch layer. One can argue that the glare on the Gorilla glass version is more detracting, but it comes down to personal preference. Atleast the multitouch version is antiglare.

In terms of usability - Windows 7 is not finger friendly at all. You can make the DPI bigger to make buttons easier to hit - but you're already working with a small screen - so it's not really practical. Finger input lacks precision. The pen input is much more practical as the digitizer is quite precise.

On Windows 8, you'll have a much better experience with the finger input - atleast in the "metro" interface (as that was made for touch). That said, once you're back to the standard windows desktop - you'll run into the same problem with the lack of precision on hard to hit buttons on a small screen with finger input. In tablet mode (using it like an ipad), it's pretty nice and finger friendly as long as you don't plan on doing any serious work.

Gorilla Glass: I only spent a few hours with this one - but my take is that the display is more crisp than the multitouch, but loses points for the crazy glare.

As covered in the multitouch version above - for those of you on Windows 7 and only have the pen input Gorilla glass version - you're not missing anything here.

I didn't get to test Windows 8 on the Gorilla Glass version, but from using the multitouch version, just having to use the digitizer in the "metro" UI interface is not very intuitive. That said, for those just going straight into standard windows - you won't miss much.

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Anyway, that's my experience with the three. None of them are perfect, just find the one that suits your needs. I see alot of people with buyers remorse with the gorilla glass display, but honestly - you're not missing out on much - especially if you're still on Windows 7.

Thanks for the great review. Definitely puts everything into perspective for me. For my uses, I do not plan on upgrading to W8, and I think the pen only version may work in my favor, as I plan on using it to take notes in class, and that is about it. So what's nice is I don't have to worry about my arms going across the screen and messing up my writing.

You won't have to worry about that either way - since the touch sensor and pen sensor (digitizer) are different/separate.

there's a bunch of tablets for $484.40 now o_o

Every last one of 'em is specced like this and listed as new:

Processor: Intel® Core™ i3-2370M Processor (2.40GHz, 3MB L3, 1333MHz)( )
Operating system: Windows 7 Home Premium 64 - English
Display: 12.5" HD WXGA (1366 X 768) MultiTouch LED backlight"
Graphics: Intel® HD Graphics 3000
Memory: 4 GB PC3-12800 DDR3 SDRAM 1600MHz SODIMM Memory
Hard Drive: 320GB, 7200RPM Serial ATA 2.5" Hard Drive
Optical Drive: No Optical Included




I'm happy with the deal I got...
($664 + tax, free ship):

Lenovo X230 Tablet
Processor: Intel® Core™ i5-3320M Processor (3M Cache, 2.60 GHz, Turbo 3.1GHz)( )
Operating system: Windows 7 Professional 64 - English
Display: 12.5" HD WXGA (1366 X 768) MultiTouch LED backlight"
Graphics: Intel® HD Graphics 4000
Memory: 4 GB PC3-12800 DDR3 SDRAM 1600MHz SODIMM Memory
Hard Drive: 128GB SATA 2.5" Solid State Drive
Optical Drive: No Optical Included
Battery: ThinkPad Battery 67+ (6 cell)
Warranty: 1 Year Standard Depot Warranty

Graphics are way stronger and actually playable for a good number of titles on low settings, CPU is way stronger (Ivy Bridge + 3.1ghz dual-core turbo), has a nice SSD, etc. I ordered a low-voltage 30nm Samsung 4GB stick to toss in alongside the default one to up it to 8gb for $23 off of amazon (and enable dual channel, which further improves the graphics by around 20-25% per benchmarks) and should be rocking.

Still, the $484 ones are pretty crazy just for the base price...

ahh i see..... i'm still debating if i should get it or not.

It's a good deal... the Ivy ones are much rarer on the outlet though they've shown from time to time. I wouldn't say it's as hot as one like I got as far as bang for the buck, but it's still a nice unit. With so many on there I would wait through this afternoon and keep checking to see what you can catch if you have the budget to go for an Ivy one like I got, but if you don't, I wouldn't feel badly at all getting one of these $484 ones. These less expensive ones would still run photoshop, zbrush, etc. very well. I doubt it'll get much better than this pricing for an X230t right now, so as I said... if this is your budget, I would bite.

Not only that, the X series has great palm rejection built in. Using onenote, taking notes has never been an issue in the slightest with respect to the digitizer pen, except for the fact that youre writing on a surface almost 1" off the desk as opposed to a sheet of paper or notebook 1/4" or so. Takes a while to get used to.

A whole bunch of those x230t are now $484 plus tax, it's a great machine to keep for your personal use if you just want a basic touchscreen computer, but the specs are severely compromised to keep it long term or for resale. It seems that some company ordered a batch and then cancelled them all, it's funny that they cheapened out on the 6-cell battery cuz it's only a $10 option over the 3 cell one.

End up getting a regular x230 for $470. i5-3320/4gb/180gb ssd/BT/FPR/webcam/6205 wifi/win 7 pro. I think I did pretty good there.

You did well, definitely... I paid a good bit more since I needed the tablet version. :)

EDIT: And.... wow, there's literally ONE of those units left on the outlet now (the X230t with i3 2370m/etc. @ $484). That was fast!

was your i5 tablet new?

specs?

No, it was refurbished (which may as well be new, with Lenovo, for all the units I've gotten through their outlet), and is significantly more powerful than the other models.

That's pretty good. Yours has the Intel Wifi, SSD, and a couple other things over the one I got. While I got some type of touchscreen with IPS display.

wow... x230 new or refurb?

Pretty sure he got refurb, here is my deal:

$525 shipped after tax and everything. Although some are reporting it has the outdoor touch screen. Which is fine either way, IMO. But we will see when I get it Monday.

I think he was asking about someone else, since I had answered him already :).

Refurb

Well, my order didn't ship yet but the parts list updated, it now shows the screen:

0C10098 04W3990 Comet-2 FRU LCD ASM 12.5 MultiTouch HD

On a second line it says "FRU for LGD 12.5"HD IPS LCD panel".


So, looks like I'm getting the right thing :). Hopefully it will ship out tomorrow.

Mine has the Outdoor Display :(.

Comet-2 FRU LCD ASM 12.5 Outdoor HD LED

Cheer up, you still got a far better deal than most people here.

Thanks for the info. I checked my parts list again and it does show the same updated information. I was about to cancel the order since there were doubts it would actually have the multitouch screen, but now I believe I will stick with it.

I know, I'm not complaining, just wanted the multitouch.

Yikes, sorry to hear that... still a great deal but :(.

My order has had 3 billing issues so far due to various things... I'm hoping to heck it doesn't get cancelled. While I was on the phone they did say the latest attempt went through properly and successfully charged, so I think I'm in the clear but I'll be relieved to see the order status say "Shipped" soon(tm).

Yea Ima call them, see if I can get it exchanged or possibly partial refund? :nod:

Also, at least mine had gorilla glass.

It's too small...

Too small?

The screen. I just received mine.

Ohhhh.... interesting, I keep thinking it may be too big or just right. Mine hasn't even shipped yet. I really hope I don't end up finding it too small... :eek: .

Mine didnt come with fingerprint reader. In all fairness IDK how this thing is worth $500...

The big attraction to this thing is the pressure sensitive pen, good battery life, strong processing power, durability, and convertible form factor for making it useful for many productivity tasks (modeling/sculpting, texture painting, CAD work, photo editing, coding, etc.). If you just wanted a tablet this isn't exactly meant to be that machine.

I was looking for a laptop.

Yeah, sorry but this is not the kind of machine that even is meant for being a consumer-type laptop :(. You'd be far better served with something like a Y580 or a Z585 type machine, or U410 if you want something a bit more compact.

Nah it's kool. I just have to get used to it probably. I am just really stressed with school, classes, and midterms at the moment. So I am a bit more grouchy than normal.

I will have more time on Wed. from then on, so I should be good to mess around with the system.

I will be honest, but even if I got a IdeaPad of some sort with this processor and specs, it would cost more than this machine or around the same price. So I may as well keep it or possibly sell it.

Man this is completely uncalled for, with that kind of specs it's worth $1000 brand new. Just get the same CPU/RAM/HDD combo on any consumer laptop and you are pushing towards $500, let along the tablet form factor and Thinkpad build quality, and on top of that IBM customer service.

If you got the E530 for $326 like I did then you will probably comment how large it is, just got mine today. In all you probably should have gotten on the E430 deal in Oct that one has i5-3210M for $336. The beauty of the x230T is that it's a extremely portable package but with normal laptop guts, so people will take it on the go and enjoy its portability, but when they take it back to their office they will DOCK it and use it with larger monitor and keyboard/mouse.

My recommend is that keep it for a month, if you haven't gotten used to it then you probably won't, at that point put it on ebay or CL, you can easily make $150 selling it that way.

Think it'll make any difference if I swap to SSD or not on this? It currently has a 320GB 7200rpm in it right now. I need to pick up another 4GB RAM, then get a screen protector for it. I do miss multitouch though. But the pen works very well with the tablet.

Right now I am using a 15.6" laptop, which is why I am commenting on the screen size.

SSD will make a huge difference, it's like Viagra for the computer. Get an external monitor and dock and you'll overlook the size difference, you can pay for it by selling the V570.

Yes that is my plan, or my other thought, what do you suggest, mSATA SSD or full size? Would it affect the battery life much if I were to have both? I already have a display-port adapter from my old Thinkpad so I have HDMI already.

Also, I got the free W8 upgrade paper with the laptop as well, should I upgrade? Is there anyway I can purchase the upgrade and use it on another computer? Since mine is not true multi-touch, idk...

You should keep the HDD for storage and get a crucial mSATA m4 ssd. That combo seems very popular these days. 8gb ram is good, but I think you should skip the screen protector. The screen is already protected by the gorilla glass shield so you will just end up muddying the screen further, and it's somewhat pointless to spend $ for extra protection on refurbs.

If you don't have time on your hand then a regular 7mm such as Samsung 840 or 840 Pro should be more than enough to give you that needed boost. It took less than 5 minutes to pop out the old HD and replace it with SSD. MSATA will require a little more work so save that for when you really have some free time. First thing I did when I got my x230 is a clean install of Windows. Put that on the SSD then it will scream.

I plan on doing the clean install this weekend. I do not have my USB DVD burner with me at the moment. And I do have time to put in an mSATA drive. The only thing I will have to research is how to boot from it and such. mSATA is very new tech for me. I did not know anything about it till I got this notebook.

Definitely Crucial M4 mSATA SSD + original HDD combo, I have that SSD in my T430 and even though mine is limited to SATAII due to the presence of Ultrabay it's super fast, your x230t should have full SATAIII speed in mSATA port so the experience might be even better. Performance SSDs such as the m4 and 830 are actually pretty power hungry, in many cases more than efficient HDDs such as the Scorpion Blue. So if you install both it's like having two hard drives in the machine.

Go ahead purchase the upgrade and apply for the rebate, you can download the Win 8 ISO and install it on any upgradable (win 7, vista, xp sp3) machines.

I currently have a 25 off 75 from Staples, any SSDs worth picking up one On there right now?

There is a Lenovo X1 right now, New in the outlet fr $506 before tax with i3 processor. How is that deal?

There's x1 and then there's x1 carbon. If you are planning to go with x1, make sure it's the latest model. Without looking at the item, I am thinking it's last generation x1, so for i3, I wouldn't bite. Better off sticking with the x230t.

Yes, it is last generation, if it was X1 Carbon or X1 Touch, I would not even bother with asking on here. And would have taken them all.

Ok, good to know, I will stick with that I have.

Depends on config $506 can be a crazy deal even for a i3 X1, if it has SSD then it can be sold for $800 on ebay.

What's really crazy is that apparently Lenovo doesn't know its own model numbers very well. I got a 3259XF1 which is listed as a E520, sold it on CL and when we met I opened it up for him, it turns out to be a E530! Too bad I already agreed on a price and he already paid. I guess in the future I really need to pay attention to the small "refurbished from" model number. :(

Tonight I got shipping notification for the X230t I ordered on Thursday. Using the supplied serial number provided when I ordered, I ran it through the warranty status page on Lenovo's website. Sure enough, it has the 3 year depot warranty that will expire around the first of February 2016.

Mine is saying that, too. 3-year EZ Serve warranty. I think if this is the case, I may actually keep the tablet and sell off my trusty old x200. Decisions, decisions.

Yet again, the outlet rep said he can confirm 1-year warranty. What gives?

I ended up ordering a refurb x230 non-tablet on Friday 2/1. IPS display, SSD, i5-3320, 9-cell, docking station w/ optical drive. $555 after tax. Received order confirmation, anxiously awaiting shipping confirmation.

Your warranty will be updated to 1 year, it may takes a few days after delivery, but eventually it will be updated.

Nice find! How big is the SSD? I love my X220 running with a 128 gb msata and 500gb HD.

Very nice deal, I saw that, added it to my cart, then let it time out. I was deciding since I already got the X230t.

Does anybody have a clue (follow lenovo outlet, inside scoop, etc.) if these will be restocked? I missed the boat on this thread (started a new job - yay!) and am in need of a new laptop. Thanks!

They restock everything couple months or so, extreme deals like this happen about 3-5 times a year I would say. I have gotten in on at least everyone every-time they have popped up, or I just passed b/c I did not need anything.

Just gotta randomly check from time to time, and see if anything is there.

My best deal I would say is an Edge 14 I got a couple yrs. back with a first gen i-core. I got a fully loaded i5 with everything for under $300 and picked up a couple i3 Edge 14s for $200. It is still in use too passed down to my younger sis for school.

Thanks for the information! I'll keep an eye out. I have a dead T42 and would like to replace it with another Thinkpad.

I can't remember if it was the 128 or 180 actually. I was excited about the rest of the specs, and anxious to get it in the cart before someone else snagged it. I already have an SSD from a dead laptop ready to go anyway.

Well, I greatly appreciate you letting it go. It will have a good home with me.

My x220 has a 7mm HD slot so your x230t might be the same. Just an FYI.

They are all 7mm.

I'm not sure if what I got was that great of a deal for $550.X230Tt tablet- New
i3 processor
Win 7 64bit
HD3000
4GB RAM
320GB HDD
3 cell battery
Webcam
No bluetooth
No fingerprint reader

I picked up one of these off of eBay for a decent price - really happy with it so far! Probably going to max out the RAM and eventually add a SSD to make this super speedy.