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black318is 01-23-2013 07:51 PM

Panasonic Plasma sale at Paul's TV -- All Models listed-UPDATE 1/25
 
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Looks like Paul's pulled/changed some of the coupon codes on most of the TV's on their site today (1/25/12)

I decided to put all Paul's TV Panasonic Plasma sales in one post. I have only included the Panny's in this thread as most people really love these sets. I do not guaranty these are the lowest prices you will find but they should be some of the lowest out there. Not sure how long these prices will last or if they MIGHT go lower. But Paul's does have a 30 day price match.

MUST Log-in to see sale prices on most items.

Panasonic Plasma Pricing as of 1/25/12
Listing in BOLD are new or changed.


TC-P65GT50 $2200 with SAVE300 code

TC-P50GT50 $1000 with SAVE140 code

TC-P50ST50 $950 with SAVE50 code

TC-P55ST50 $1150 with SAVE50 code

TC-P60U50 $850 with SAVE50 code Just added

TC-P60UT50 $1150 with SAVE100 code


Codes are inserted at cart before checkout.

Free Shipping (with "White Glove" Delivery - Must check box at checkout)
No tax except CA, CO, MI, MA, and RI.

Additional coupons here:
http://www.paulstv.com/coupons_12-28-12.asp

Other promotions here:
http://www.paulstv.com/promotions.asp

Main site:
http://www.paulstv.com/

Positive REP's are appreciated.

luvgisele 01-23-2013 07:58 PM

i checked out with amazon payments - there was no option for checking white glove delivery...damn...will i get regular or white glove? anyone?

cbiggers 01-23-2013 08:24 PM

Can you use amazon card at pails tv using amazon payments.

Giatros89 01-23-2013 08:25 PM

How is the return policy?

johanne 01-23-2013 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Giatros89 (Post 57077270)
How is the return policy?

Not good, 30 days, but you pay return shipping and a 15% restocking fee.

SirLinux 01-23-2013 08:40 PM

What's the better value - 55ST or 55GT?

johanne 01-23-2013 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johanne (Post 57077488)
Not good, 30 days, but you pay return shipping and a 15% restocking fee.

Additionally, I asked if I could return the panel to a store or to the warehouse it shipped from to avoid shipping charges and was told no. I would have to pay $100 for shipping.

johanne 01-23-2013 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirLinux (Post 57077750)
What's the better value - 55ST or 55GT?

Most people would be perfectly happy with the ST and $350 in their pocket.

batcatman 01-23-2013 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luvgisele (Post 57076536)
i checked out with amazon payments - there was no option for checking white glove delivery...damn...will i get regular or white glove? anyone?

Just chat with them online, they will add it gladly. I ordered a 65VT, waiting for it to ship.
Quote:

Originally Posted by cbiggers (Post 57077236)
Can you use amazon card at pails tv using amazon payments.

No u cant. They just use amazon checkout service.

OP, Repped u for compiling the list. Good job!

cbiggers 01-23-2013 09:13 PM

Hopefully amazon gets some more 65vts in

LoveMySubaru 01-23-2013 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirLinux (Post 57077750)
What's the better value - 55ST or 55GT?

Quote:

Originally Posted by johanne (Post 57078326)
Most people would be perfectly happy with the ST and $350 in their pocket.

I would too if it were really $350 difference. But it's $100 between 55ST and 55GT. THX mode alone might be worth the $100.

Parkerktm 01-23-2013 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoveMySubaru (Post 57081338)
I would too if it were really $350 difference. But it's $100 between 55ST and 55GT. THX mode alone might be worth the $100.

I've compared the ST/GT/VT models for the last year and I can tell you the GT (at normal price) is the best deal. Through studying specs, reviews from so called experts, and comparing them in stores. The gap between the ST and GT models is greater than the gap between the GT and VT models. For only $100 more I would highly recommend the GT model. You won't be disappointed.

johanne 01-24-2013 04:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoveMySubaru (Post 57081338)
I would too if it were really $350 difference. But it's $100 between 55ST and 55GT. THX mode alone might be worth the $100.

My mistake, I misread that as ST vs VT. The aesthetic and thx modes are most likely worth the $100 if you aren't already really stretching a budget.

MrTwo94 01-24-2013 05:37 AM

For some bizarre reason, only the VT supports true 24p playback. Panasonic way behind the curve on this one, but luckily for them most people seem to prefer soap opera mode anyway...

Morning_Breath 01-24-2013 06:20 AM

Anyone know if the stores PM their website prices?

Parken 01-24-2013 06:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrTwo94 (Post 57084928)
For some bizarre reason, only the VT supports true 24p playback. Panasonic way behind the curve on this one, but luckily for them most people seem to prefer soap opera mode anyway...

More frames the better. To me soap opera mode looks more realistic and fluid. Moreover, it tends to reveal crappy cgi very readily - probably forcing movie companies to perfect their craft.

woodygg 01-24-2013 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirLinux (Post 57077750)
What's the better value - 55ST or 55GT?

way too vague of a question. if value = cheaper only?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Parken (Post 57085936)
More frames the better. To me soap opera mode looks more realistic and fluid. Moreover, it tends to reveal crappy cgi very readily - probably forcing movie companies to perfect their craft.

hence the reason i bought the vt.

usbfan 01-24-2013 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Parkerktm (Post 57081466)
I've compared the ST/GT/VT models for the last year and I can tell you the GT (at normal price) is the best deal. Through studying specs, reviews from so called experts, and comparing them in stores. The gap between the ST and GT models is greater than the gap between the GT and VT models. For only $100 more I would highly recommend the GT model. You won't be disappointed.

Actually the gap between GT and VT is greater than ST and GT as GT/ST share the same glass panel. GT has more bells and whistles than ST but they are essentially the same TV. Thus ST has the best bang for bucks, but 60" and 65" are all sold out and out of stock. What's remaining are the GT's and VT's. The eternal question is 55" VT or 60" GT. Most would prefer the bigger screen size as the differences are more noticeable.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morning_Breath (Post 57085648)
Anyone know if the stores PM their website prices?

No. You can't pick-up at their B&M either.

dragontales 01-24-2013 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Parken (Post 57085936)
More frames the better. To me soap opera mode looks more realistic and fluid. Moreover, it tends to reveal crappy cgi very readily - probably forcing movie companies to perfect their craft.

Are you referring to motion smoothing?

mr_joshua 01-24-2013 07:12 AM

damn, I am kinda wishing my current panny plasma would keel over. I've had it since mid 2005 and its still going strong. I sooo want to pick up the 65"VT...

hilaryshotlips 01-24-2013 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johanne (Post 57077488)
Not good, 30 days, but you pay return shipping and a 15% restocking fee.

That's why I'm afraid to buy a TV any place other than Costco's, Amazon, or Sears. Costco's selection isn't nearly as good as the electronics chains, but from what I hear, their customer service is a pleasure to deal with. Amazon is usually excellent for returns and immediate exchanges. With Sear's, you're relying on the enormity of their operation.

jonros 01-24-2013 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hilaryshotlips (Post 57087208)
That's why I'm afraid to buy a TV any place other than Costco's, Amazon, or Sears. Costco's selection isn't nearly as good as the electronics chains, but from what I hear, their customer service is a pleasure to deal with. Amazon is usually excellent for returns and immediate exchanges. With Sear's, you're relying on the enormity of their operation.

Went with Best Buy. When i was able to buy my TV went to BB and unfortunately the code at the time to save $100 off the 55GT from pauls was not in effect. But the salesman worked with me and gave me $50 off - so at that time $1299 plus tax.

Returned it two days ago and moved up to the 60GT. BB price matched Pauls, and wth the 50 off 100 MC coupon I paid $1649 plus tax. First time I ever returned a TV, much less that size, to ANY retailer, and Best Buy gave me no problems. Geek Squad just plugged it in - did not run any source material - and that was that.

This is the Dedham MA store.

Morning_Breath 01-24-2013 08:09 AM

So close to jumping on this but have never purchased from Paul's TV. Max size my space will fit is the 50" and I actually have both of these models on deal alert:

TC-P50GT50 $1050 with SAVE90 code
TC-P50ST50 $950 with SAVE50 code

From the specs, it seems like a good choice to go with the GT for just $100 more. Anyone disagree? Also, any coupons to lower these any more or anyone having luck PMing at Amazon or B&M stores?

lvblkjack 01-24-2013 08:16 AM

[QUOTE=woodygg;57086026]way too vague of a question. if value = cheaper only?

value = utility per dollar

KaufmanD 01-24-2013 08:40 AM

Paul's TV is definitely not Best Buy or Amazon (Amazon being the best). Bought my 55GT50 through Paul's since they were $100 cheaper than Amazon. The CSR gave me a nice story about customer service, etc and I went ahead and made the purchase. After the purchase, no return calls when my order was delayed (CC linked to PO Box) and no return call when I called regarding a separate issue. So don't believe the CSR when they say, "I got your back, you just call me." Carefully read their return policy before purchasing! Their return policy online is different than what the CSR may tell you. The deal I got from them was very good, but once they drop it off at your door, you own it.

Update 1-25-13: A CSR called back this morning and apologized for the no-return call. Odd, that was out-of-the-blue. He's working with me regarding some quirks I'm having with my GT50. Not your standard issues I see on AVS - just a couple things that are really bugging me about the TV. So I give them a big thumbs-up for not only calling me back, but giving me some options regarding the odd, but real issues I'm experiencing with my GT50.

blackblaze 01-24-2013 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrTwo94 (Post 57084928)
For some bizarre reason, only the VT supports true 24p playback. Panasonic way behind the curve on this one, but luckily for them most people seem to prefer soap opera mode anyway...

since when did most prefer the soap opera look :nono:

bobotheklown 01-24-2013 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morning_Breath (Post 57088514)
So close to jumping on this but have never purchased from Paul's TV. Max size my space will fit is the 50" and I actually have both of these models on deal alert:

TC-P50GT50 $1050 with SAVE90 code
TC-P50ST50 $950 with SAVE50 code

From the specs, it seems like a good choice to go with the GT for just $100 more. Anyone disagree? Also, any coupons to lower these any more or anyone having luck PMing at Amazon or B&M stores?

I'm in the same situation, and I'm deciding to go with the GT for the dual core processor and the THX modes as I will be using it during daylight some of the time.

soobaerodude 01-24-2013 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hilaryshotlips (Post 57087208)
That's why I'm afraid to buy a TV any place other than Costco's, Amazon, or Sears. Costco's selection isn't nearly as good as the electronics chains, but from what I hear, their customer service is a pleasure to deal with. Amazon is usually excellent for returns and immediate exchanges. With Sear's, you're relying on the enormity of their operation.

Sears charges a 15% restocking fee, unless you plan to buy something else

Alkaar 01-24-2013 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morning_Breath (Post 57088514)
So close to jumping on this but have never purchased from Paul's TV. Max size my space will fit is the 50" and I actually have both of these models on deal alert:

TC-P50GT50 $1050 with SAVE90 code
TC-P50ST50 $950 with SAVE50 code

From the specs, it seems like a good choice to go with the GT for just $100 more. Anyone disagree? Also, any coupons to lower these any more or anyone having luck PMing at Amazon or B&M stores?

Get the GT50 for sure. Definitely worth the extra $100.

cubsoxbull 01-24-2013 11:29 AM

My Best Buy has an open box TC-P65GT50 after tax and the 10% coupon I get it out the door for $2015, but I am concerned about buying an open box. In the store I was trying to figure out how many hours were on the TV, but neither me or the sales person could figure it out. I have bought from Pauls before and wouldn't hesitate if this dropped a few more bucks.

SirLinux 01-24-2013 12:28 PM

Just came back from a local store and compared the 55" ST to the 55" UT (because they happened to be near each other on the wall) and I don't think I saw a $400 difference in picture quality. They are selling the UT for $839 and the ST was about $1250. Most of the content we watch comes from satellite/cable and not 1080P sources. So not sure I need the upscale features of the ST or even GT. Was originally leaning for a 60" GT.

sidshock 01-24-2013 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobotheklown (Post 57089800)
I'm in the same situation, and I'm deciding to go with the GT for the dual core processor and the THX modes as I will be using it during daylight some of the time.

THX modes are good for the darker rooms, or night viewing.

From all the reading. The ST is every bit as good as the GT to the naked eye when it's calibrated. ( not necessarily professionally. Just personally with some settings you can find online, avs, etc.. )

GT only looks better out of the box.

sidshock 01-24-2013 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cubsoxbull (Post 57094754)
My Best Buy has an open box TC-P65GT50 after tax and the 10% coupon I get it out the door for $2015, but I am concerned about buying an open box. In the store I was trying to figure out how many hours were on the TV, but neither me or the sales person could figure it out. I have bought from Pauls before and wouldn't hesitate if this dropped a few more bucks.

Bestbuys 30 day return policy on TV's is excellent.
Go for it.! Any problems, just return it.

sidshock 01-24-2013 12:34 PM

for the 30 day price guarantee and return policy.
Is it from the time you are charged, from the date shipped or from the date TV is received.??

cubsoxbull 01-24-2013 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sidshock (Post 57096628)
Bestbuys 30 day return policy on TV's is excellent.
Go for it.! Any problems, just return it.

I found a 65 inch ST at another store, funny thing they are selling that for $8 less, I told the guy why would I buy the ST when the other store is selling a GT for $8 more. Well at least he was smart and agreed with me.

bobotheklown 01-24-2013 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sidshock (Post 57096582)
THX modes are good for the darker rooms, or night viewing.

From all the reading. The ST is every bit as good as the GT to the naked eye when it's calibrated. ( not necessarily professionally. Just personally with some settings you can find online, avs, etc.. )

GT only looks better out of the box.

There are two THX modes, one for night viewing and one for daylight viewing. It's just nice to have the option to be able to switch between the two for different scenarios.

If you have a light controlled environment and don't think the dual core processor is worth it, the ST is the choice to go with.

cbiggers 01-24-2013 01:06 PM

i'm waiting for the 65VT to drop, i'm interested in the 24p it has.

woozyone 01-24-2013 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackblaze (Post 57089404)
since when did most prefer the soap opera look :nono:

You beat me to it!

I walk into Sams/Costco/Best Buy/etc and see that crap and wonder what in the world are people thinking.

blackblaze 01-24-2013 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cbiggers (Post 57097652)
i'm waiting for the 65VT to drop, i'm interested in the 24p it has.

If it goes below $2k, its going to be SCARCE finding one at that price.

sidshock 01-24-2013 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cubsoxbull (Post 57097282)
I found a 65 inch ST at another store, funny thing they are selling that for $8 less, I told the guy why would I buy the ST when the other store is selling a GT for $8 more. Well at least he was smart and agreed with me.

well, that is a no brainer :) Good find.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobotheklown (Post 57097312)
There are two THX modes, one for night viewing and one for daylight viewing. It's just nice to have the option to be able to switch between the two for different scenarios.

If you have a light controlled environment and don't think the dual core processor is worth it, the ST is the choice to go with.

Yes, it's nice to have it already there, and off you go.
But for people with budget contraints, you can setup a custom profile that is equal the THX bright room or however you like it.

That said, if it's a deal, ie: 55ST vs 60GT for $100 more, I would probably go with the GT.

But if it's say 55ST for $1200 and 55GT for $1500, I would go with ST.
The st to gt figures I pulled out my arse as an example btw.

VarmintCong 01-24-2013 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cbiggers (Post 57097652)
i'm waiting for the 65VT to drop, i'm interested in the 24p it has.

Both CNET and some experts on AVS have said the ST/GT's 60Hz mode is almost indistinguishable from the VT's 96hz mode. Both handle 24p content very smoothly.

gaijin4life 01-24-2013 02:14 PM

Grrr. No 65ST.

hilaryshotlips 01-24-2013 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonros (Post 57087882)
Went with Best Buy...55GT...Returned it two days ago and moved up to the 60GT...Best Buy gave me no problems.

Just curious. How did you return it? Did you carry it in or ship it back? There's no way I could personally return a 55" set, so I would rely on the retailer's policy for shipping back returns.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cubsoxbull (Post 57094754)
My Best Buy has an open box TC-P65GT50 after tax and the 10% coupon I get it out the door for $2015, but I am concerned about buying an open box.

In my opinion, open box merchandise shouldn't be sold, especially if they were display items. Those TV's are on from morning until closing, and there's no telling how they may have been mishandled. Hoping the shipper handles new merchandise correctly during delivery is enough of a worry.

soobaerodude 01-24-2013 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cubsoxbull (Post 57094754)
My Best Buy has an open box TC-P65GT50 after tax and the 10% coupon I get it out the door for $2015, but I am concerned about buying an open box. In the store I was trying to figure out how many hours were on the TV, but neither me or the sales person could figure it out. I have bought from Pauls before and wouldn't hesitate if this dropped a few more bucks.

Here's how to check the number of hours on Panasonic plasmas:

Link to HiDefJunkies thread [highdefjunkies.com]

soobaerodude 01-24-2013 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirLinux (Post 57096546)
Just came back from a local store and compared the 55" ST to the 55" UT (because they happened to be near each other on the wall) and I don't think I saw a $400 difference in picture quality. They are selling the UT for $839 and the ST was about $1250. Most of the content we watch comes from satellite/cable and not 1080P sources. So not sure I need the upscale features of the ST or even GT. Was originally leaning for a 60" GT.

The UT does not have an anti-glare filter, so the ST will look better in a room where you can't control the light

jonros 01-24-2013 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hilaryshotlips (Post 57099518)
Just curious. How did you return it? Did you carry it in or ship it back? There's no way I could personally return a 55" set, so I would rely on the retailer's policy for shipping back returns.



In my opinion, open box merchandise shouldn't be sold, especially if they were display items. Those TV's are on from morning until closing, and there's no telling how they may have been mishandled. Hoping the shipper handles new merchandise correctly during delivery is enough of a worry.

Bought in-store originally, returned in person. Good question though - I should have asked before I took it home originally what my responsibilities are with regard to returns/exchange - and in exchanges, could BB come by and drop off new item and pick up the old?

I do wonder how Amazon returns of TVs are like. I know they're great with returns and all, but what does the buyer have to do (keep boxes? box it up themselves?)

black318is 01-25-2013 06:13 AM

Looks like Paul's updated their coupon codes today. Some TV's have larger discounts and some TV's have been removed. Prices and codes updated in 1st post.

vishima 01-25-2013 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by batcatman (Post 57078480)
Just chat with them online, they will add it gladly. I ordered a 65VT, waiting for it to ship.

No u cant. They just use amazon checkout service.

OP, Repped u for compiling the list. Good job!

Can you tell how much you paid out the door for 65VT?

triwood 01-25-2013 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vishima (Post 57118886)
Can you tell how much you paid out the door for 65VT?

I was able to get the 65VT50 for $1999.88 plus tax. But I think I'm one of maybe fifteen who was able to get the deal through an authorized dealer called BrandsMart USA. They've since cleared out of inventory.

bobotheklown 01-25-2013 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by black318is (Post 57115956)
Looks like Paul's updated their coupon codes today. Some TV's have larger discounts and some TV's have been removed. Prices and codes updated in 1st post.

Nice the 50gt50 dropped 50 more dollars.

Will BB or VideoOnly price match paul's? Anyone know?

mike1650 01-25-2013 09:43 AM

I just did a chat asking the story on CA tax. He told me it depended on what I ordered. I told him the GT50 and he said "Oh OK, no tax on that one. I put in my cart and of course they charged tax. I assume if they ship from the East Coast they somehow avoid charging the tax but I don't know for sure. Tax was almost $100 so makes a huge diff. in price checking.

saul24 01-25-2013 09:58 AM

Thanks for the updates in BOLD, but are these better or worse than what they were previously? Would be nice to see the difference. Anyhow, repped.

Quote:

Originally Posted by black318is (Post 57076346)
Looks like Paul's pulled/changed some of the coupon codes on most of the TV's on their site today (1/25/12)

I decided to put all Paul's TV Panasonic Plasma sales in one post. I have only included the Panny's in this thread as most people really love these sets. I do not guaranty these are the lowest prices you will find but they should be some of the lowest out there. Not sure how long these prices will last or if they MIGHT go lower. But Paul's does have a 30 day price match.

MUST Log-in to see sale prices on most items.

Panasonic Plasma Pricing as of 1/25/12
Listing in BOLD are new or changed.


TC-P65GT50 $2200 with SAVE300 code

TC-P50GT50 $1000 with SAVE140 code

TC-P50ST50 $950 with SAVE50 code

TC-P55ST50 $1150 with SAVE50 code

TC-P60U50 $850 with SAVE50 code Just added

TC-P60U50 $850 with SAVE100 code


Codes are inserted at cart before checkout.

Free Shipping (with "White Glove" Delivery - Must check box at checkout)
No tax except CA, CO, MI, MA, and RI.

Additional coupons here:
http://www.paulstv.com/coupons_12-28-12.asp

Other promotions here:
http://www.paulstv.com/promotions.asp

Main site:
http://www.paulstv.com/

Positive REP's are appreciated.


jonle 01-25-2013 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike1650 (Post 57121786)
I just did a chat asking the story on CA tax. He told me it depended on what I ordered. I told him the GT50 and he said "Oh OK, no tax on that one. I put in my cart and of course they charged tax. I assume if they ship from the East Coast they somehow avoid charging the tax but I don't know for sure. Tax was almost $100 so makes a huge diff. in price checking.

If a company has an existence/store anywhere in CA, it'll certainly charge you sales tax.

deals_iguana 01-25-2013 11:09 AM

I am in the market for 65" TV and really like this deal but not sure if GT is ok for a bright room? May be LED is better in that sense.

jonhern 01-25-2013 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cubsoxbull (Post 57094754)
My Best Buy has an open box TC-P65GT50 after tax and the 10% coupon I get it out the door for $2015, but I am concerned about buying an open box. In the store I was trying to figure out how many hours were on the TV, but neither me or the sales person could figure it out. I have bought from Pauls before and wouldn't hesitate if this dropped a few more bucks.

you will need the remote, but here is how you do it: http://www.highdefjunkies.com/sho...php?t=1772

cubsoxbull 01-25-2013 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonhern (Post 57124978)
you will need the remote, but here is how you do it: http://www.highdefjunkies.com/sho...php?t=1772

Thanks, I am holding out for a new one, not much difference in price right now and I don't think the open box is much more of a value.

jonhern 01-25-2013 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cubsoxbull (Post 57125136)
Thanks, I am holding out for a new one, not much difference in price right now and I don't think the open box is much more of a value.

yeah, i would show them the price of the new one at pauls and see if they will go lower. I would also ask if it was a display or return.

jonhern 01-25-2013 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Parken (Post 57085936)
More frames the better. To me soap opera mode looks more realistic and fluid. Moreover, it tends to reveal crappy cgi very readily - probably forcing movie companies to perfect their craft.

technically none of them support true 24p because none will show the material at 1:1 frames, the vt, gt and st have 48hz which doubles the frames (2:2), the vt also has 96hz which quadruples them (4:4). However most will find 48hz to flicker too much, just imagine if it did true 24p, so the best setting for the st and gt is to leave it at 60hz where it does 3:2 pulldown. And 24p has nothing to do with the soap opera affect, that is the dejudder setting which they call motion smoother.

soobaerodude 01-25-2013 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deals_iguana (Post 57124532)
I am in the market for 65" TV and really like this deal but not sure if GT is ok for a bright room? May be LED is better in that sense.

The GT has a THX Bright Room setting that is highly regarded

Morning_Breath 01-25-2013 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soobaerodude (Post 57125474)
The GT has a THX Bright Room setting that is highly regarded

Do you know if the ST has that too? This is important to me because my TV will be in a bright room. Thanks

mike1650 01-25-2013 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonle (Post 57124158)
If a company has an existence/store anywhere in CA, it'll certainly charge you sales tax.


That's what I thought but when I took out the Panny and changed to Samsung 8000 the tax went away. It has to be what I said even though I know they are supposed to because of CA presence

jonhern 01-25-2013 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morning_Breath (Post 57125552)
Do you know if the ST has that too? This is important to me because my TV will be in a bright room. Thanks

only the vt and gt have thx settings.

soobaerodude 01-25-2013 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morning_Breath (Post 57125552)
Do you know if the ST has that too? This is important to me because my TV will be in a bright room. Thanks

No THX on the ST. However, THX is mostly for convenience if you just want to use it out of the box. You can find custom settings on the net for the ST50 and adjust to your taste

Morning_Breath 01-25-2013 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonhern (Post 57125656)
only the vt and gt have thx settings.

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Originally Posted by soobaerodude (Post 57126050)
No THX on the ST. However, THX is mostly for convenience if you just want to use it out of the box. You can find custom settings on the net for the ST50 and adjust to your taste

Thank you both. Now I just have to decide whether or not to jump on this or wait for Amazon to price closer. Not sure I like the sound of the customer service and Return Policy at Paul's TV... hmmmm.

TC-P50GT50 $1000 with SAVE140 code

Amazon is currently $1140.

mike1650 01-25-2013 12:30 PM

Amazon will match Pauls but coupon may be a problem for them. Try it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonle (Post 57124158)
If a company has an existence/store anywhere in CA, it'll certainly charge you sales tax.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morning_Breath (Post 57126506)
Thank you both. Now I just have to decide whether or not to jump on this or wait for Amazon to price closer. Not sure I like the sound of the customer service and Return Policy at Paul's TV... hmmmm.

TC-P50GT50 $1000 with SAVE140 code

Amazon is currently $1140.


Parken 01-25-2013 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonhern (Post 57125408)
technically none of them support true 24p because none will show the material at 1:1 frames, the vt, gt and st have 48hz which doubles the frames (2:2), the vt also has 96hz which quadruples them (4:4). However most will find 48hz to flicker too much, just imagine if it did true 24p, so the best setting for the st and gt is to leave it at 60hz where it does 3:2 pulldown. And 24p has nothing to do with the soap opera affect, that is the dejudder setting which they call motion smoother.

It's 24 frames per second. Newer sets have the technology to add additional frames in between to make it smoother. So your 24 frame becomes much more. Many don't like the effect and it's called soap opera effect. So it has something do to with # of frames.

JoeU 01-25-2013 12:42 PM

FYI you can get P60UT50 for 1,149.99 with coupon SAVE100

jonhern 01-25-2013 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Parken (Post 57126926)
It's 24 frames per second. Newer sets have the technology to add additional frames in between to make it smoother. So your 24 frame becomes much more. Many don't like the effect and it's called soap opera effect. So it has something do to with # of frames.

no the soap opera affect is about the dejudder settings. 24p play back that is 2:2, 3:3, 4:4, or 5:5 only shows the frame more times, it does not add anything, that is what dejudder settings do like motion smoother or whatever other companies call it. they actually make up frames to insert into the sequence to smooth it out, that's why you can get a lot of artifacts and such when you enable it.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_1...886-1.html

Morning_Breath 01-25-2013 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike1650 (Post 57126832)
Amazon will match Pauls but coupon may be a problem for them. Try it.

Just tried to PM at Amazon and was denied because it is not an "everyday price" and the lower price requires a code. Ugh.

black318is 01-25-2013 01:10 PM

FYI you can get P60UT50 for 1,149.99 with coupon SAVE100

Thanks Joe..I missed typed one of the promo's in the first post..
Corrected in post #1

Parken 01-25-2013 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonhern (Post 57127580)
no the soap opera affect is about the dejudder settings. 24p play back that is 2:2, 3:3, 4:4, or 5:5 only shows the frame more times, it does not add anything, that is what dejudder settings do like motion smoother or whatever other companies call it. they actually make up frames to insert into the sequence to smooth it out, that's why you can get a lot of artifacts and such when you enable it.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_1...886-1.html

Obviously 24p mode wont be adding any frames - my original comment was that 24p mode not that important for me, because I like the mode(dejudder) where it adds frames and has the soap opera effect. soap opera effect is the extrapolated frames in between.

dbturtle5 01-25-2013 01:33 PM

Has anyone had any success with getting Paul's B/M stores to match these prices? I was at a Paul's store in Los Angeles county and the salesperson refused to match PaulsTV online prices.

cubsoxbull 01-25-2013 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dbturtle5 (Post 57128786)
Has anyone had any success with getting Paul's B/M stores to match these prices? I was at a Paul's store in Los Angeles county and the salesperson refused to match PaulsTV online prices.

I would ask for the store manager

jonhern 01-25-2013 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Parken (Post 57128582)
Obviously 24p mode wont be adding any frames - my original comment was that 24p mode not that important for me, because I like the mode(dejudder) where it adds frames and has the soap opera effect. soap opera effect is the extrapolated frames in between.

my bad, i thought you were conflating the two process.

bluetrep 01-26-2013 11:48 PM

all code dead

black318is 01-27-2013 05:45 AM

Just tried the code for 65" GT and it is still working.

Slee_Stack 01-27-2013 06:16 AM

Thanks for the post. Another BB PA for me!

shmoosical 01-27-2013 07:13 AM

Ditto for the 50" GT

Quote:

Originally Posted by black318is (Post 57162618)
Just tried the code for 65" GT and it is still working.


tlp 01-27-2013 01:46 PM

I'm tempted to pull the trigger on the GT50 for $999 but I just don't know how I feel about Pauls TV.

Might be worth the extra $140 for peace of mind through Amazon.

Unless anyone can recommend a 50-55" set for around $1k?

cbiggers 01-27-2013 09:00 PM

anyone thinking these tvs are gonna drop any further? or maybe the 65vt50 droping further or coming back into stock at amazon?

VarmintCong 01-28-2013 11:32 AM

55" ST50 code is working again (save 50)

shmoosical 01-28-2013 11:36 AM

I ordered the 50" GT50 from Paul's TV for $1049, and it arrived last Thursday. It had a 3" bar of black pixels running down the screen. The delivery company boxed it up and took it away. I called Paul's, and opted for a refund rather than a replacement. Then I saw the price had dropped another $50 on Friday, so I ended up ordering it again. The refund for the first one still hasn't shown up though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tlp (Post 57170404)
I'm tempted to pull the trigger on the GT50 for $999 but I just don't know how I feel about Pauls TV.

Might be worth the extra $140 for peace of mind through Amazon.

Unless anyone can recommend a 50-55" set for around $1k?


deals_iguana 01-28-2013 11:55 AM

would like to get 65GT50 but not sure about the pauls tv return policy, 15% restocking fees and return shipping kind of kills this for me.

batcatman 01-28-2013 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shmoosical (Post 57190804)
I ordered the 50" GT50 from Paul's TV for $1049, and it arrived last Thursday. It had a 3" bar of black pixels running down the screen. The delivery company boxed it up and took it away. I called Paul's, and opted for a refund rather than a replacement. Then I saw the price had dropped another $50 on Friday, so I ended up ordering it again. The refund for the first one still hasn't shown up though.

Hmmm...the 3" pixel bar cud very well be the anti IR mode which runs a strip in the bottom of the screen to clearl any IR from channel logos. My VT50 has it, and I run it before turning the TV off at night.

reficuul 01-28-2013 05:36 PM

Do you guys grab the 4/5 year warranty for the TV when you get it? Or do you all just "roll the dice"

shmoosical 01-28-2013 07:05 PM

This was a vertical strip over on the right side of the screen, not quite to the edge. It was noticeable on the screen when you select the options for setting up the TV for the first time, but not in the other regular menu screens we tried, since they didn't have graphics going all the way across to the right, and that area would have been black anyway. Would hate to have missed it before the delivery guys left.
Just checked my credit card, and the refund was posted.

Quote:

Originally Posted by batcatman (Post 57193176)
Hmmm...the 3" pixel bar cud very well be the anti IR mode which runs a strip in the bottom of the screen to clearl any IR from channel logos. My VT50 has it, and I run it before turning the TV off at night.


deals_iguana 01-28-2013 08:07 PM

65GT50 is same price on amazon now:

http://slickdeals.net/f/5826254-P...-at-Amazon

Slee_Stack 01-29-2013 09:41 AM

Completed another successful BB PA yesterday. (1) original PM, then (2) PA since I bought the TV on 12/12.

Anxiously awaiting next price drop...

campcommando 01-29-2013 11:35 AM

Just ordered the 65VT50 for 2499.99 with (SAVE500)

black318is 01-30-2013 02:40 PM

Don't puss out - get the damn thing. LOL
The only problem with waiting is they might run out.
And if you worry about getting it cheaper they do price match for 30 days.

MrTwo94 01-30-2013 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackblaze (Post 57089404)
since when did most prefer the soap opera look :nono:

Sounds like you don't like it. I know I hate it. But I've only got 1 buddy who has the smooth motion option and has it turned off. Every other TV I've seen in a friend's house has that ish turned on. It's awful.

jay24k 01-30-2013 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by campcommando (Post 57217372)
Just ordered the 65VT50 for 2499.99 with (SAVE500)

Code didnt work for me on the SAVE500 for 65Vt50

cubsoxbull 01-30-2013 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jay24k (Post 57249756)
Code didnt work for me on the SAVE500 for 65Vt50

I just ordered one 5 minutes ago and was able to use it with paypal as well

Quote:

Originally Posted by black318is (Post 57248782)
Don't puss out - get the damn thing. LOL
The only problem with waiting is they might run out.
And if you worry about getting it cheaper they do price match for 30 days.


LOL, Just ordered one, I guess the wife won't be talking to me for a few weeks. :D:D

t40killa 01-30-2013 03:40 PM

Good deals here. For potential buyers, you might want to take into account that these sales are probably the result of the new 60 series models that has been announced for 2013. Especially if you are one who wants the best or newest. The ZT60 will be replacing the VT as the flagship model. Otherwise, great deals on the 2012 models.

angelbelow 01-30-2013 04:29 PM

Just purchased the 60 inch GT50 for $1700 pre tax. Did about two weeks of research and the Viera was highly recommended by personal friends, online reviews, youtube reviews etc. Was originally in the market for a 60 inch ST50 but the 60inch GT50 came down to the same price as the ST50. Had to pull the trigger.

woozyone 01-30-2013 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by angelbelow (Post 57251084)
Just purchased the 60 inch GT50 for $1700 pre tax. Did about two weeks of research and the Viera was highly recommended by personal friends, online reviews, youtube reviews etc. Was originally in the market for a 60 inch ST50 but the 60inch GT50 came down to the same price as the ST50. Had to pull the trigger.

Sorry if this is already posted, but I noticed that SAVE200 works on the 60" GT50...is this what you did in order to get it for $1700 or did you get in on the Best Buy deal from a couple of days ago? I'm really fighting the urge to pull the trigger.

angelbelow 01-31-2013 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woozyone (Post 57253252)
Sorry if this is already posted, but I noticed that SAVE200 works on the 60" GT50...is this what you did in order to get it for $1700 or did you get in on the Best Buy deal from a couple of days ago? I'm really fighting the urge to pull the trigger.

Yup, I used the the SAVE200 and purchased my TV from PaulsTV.

woozyone 01-31-2013 04:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by angelbelow (Post 57259100)
Yup, I used the the SAVE200 and purchased my TV from PaulsTV.

Okay, thanks. I may give Best Buy a call and see if they can do anything for me...the easy returns and 24 months no interest may be worth the hit in tax for me. The last time I used my BB card was when I got in on the Pioneer Kuro 5080 deal back in early 2008...that thing hasn't missed a beat and still puts out a great picture in today's standards (even if it is only 720p). Hopefully the Panny will be a worthwhile upgrade...I'm mostly looking for an increase in size without taking a hit in picture quality.

inmyveganopinion 01-31-2013 06:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woozyone (Post 57260478)
Okay, thanks. I may give Best Buy a call and see if they can do anything for me...the easy returns and 24 months no interest may be worth the hit in tax for me. The last time I used my BB card was when I got in on the Pioneer Kuro 5080 deal back in early 2008...that thing hasn't missed a beat and still puts out a great picture in today's standards (even if it is only 720p). Hopefully the Panny will be a worthwhile upgrade...I'm mostly looking for an increase in size without taking a hit in picture quality.

I got my 60gt50 from BB in Nov. and I am 100% happy I was able to get 2 price adjustments when then TV got lower in price so I ended up paying. 1699 + tax 1599 (after nov amex bb deal, shopkick, and bb 2% back) Just an fyi in case you didnt know... BB geek squad warranty covers burnin, I havent seen any other warranties that cover it. So that gave me piece of mind since this is my first plasma. Also since buying the TV put me at premier level I am getting it calibrated for free. Some say they dont like bb calibration but Im gonna do it anyway. I will update the panny threads after they do it with my opinion (coming in mid Feb to do it)

l3it3r 01-31-2013 06:14 AM

I got the P60UT55 for $823 at Best Buy last week :) one of the slickest deals I've scored in a while!!
An EXCELLENT TV too!

lesper4 02-03-2013 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by batcatman (Post 57193176)
Hmmm...the 3" pixel bar cud very well be the anti IR mode which runs a strip in the bottom of the screen to clearl any IR from channel logos. My VT50 has it, and I run it before turning the TV off at night.

Mine has a green tinge strip on right hand side about a 1/8" wide. I haven't always noticed it. Any suggestions?

woozyone 02-03-2013 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lesper4 (Post 57343428)
Mine has a green tinge strip on right hand side about a 1/8" wide. I haven't always noticed it. Any suggestions?

My LG bedroom plasma is doing it during the superbowl...hopefully it's on their end.

lesper4 02-03-2013 08:52 PM

Yeah I think it was just the super bowl because no other channel did it.

skimrn 02-06-2013 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by usbfan (Post 57086168)
Actually the gap between GT and VT is greater than ST and GT as GT/ST share the same glass panel. GT has more bells and whistles than ST but they are essentially the same TV. Thus ST has the best bang for bucks, but 60" and 65" are all sold out and out of stock. What's remaining are the GT's and VT's. The eternal question is 55" VT or 60" GT. Most would prefer the bigger screen size as the differences are more noticeable.



No. You can't pick-up at their B&M either.

I strongly agree with you. Since all 3 Panasonic series are great TVs anyway, I would take 60GT over 55VT for larger picture.

I don't know why but I just upgraded from 60in to 65in and extra 5in I can't see the noticeable size difference. Oh well... :confused:

skimrn 02-06-2013 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sidshock (Post 57096582)
THX modes are good for the darker rooms, or night viewing.

From all the reading. The ST is every bit as good as the GT to the naked eye when it's calibrated. ( not necessarily professionally. Just personally with some settings you can find online, avs, etc.. )

GT only looks better out of the box.

I am a very picky person when it comes to picture quality(Previous owner of Kuro). But I am not happy with stock THX settings on my 65VT50. It's got a little hazy, brownish tone.

I searched the net for recommended picture setting and BAM! There it was! Listed by cnet as calibrated settings and I LOVE it! The picture looks perfect! Thank you Cnet! Here's the link:

http://forums.cnet.com/7723-19410...hreadPopup :worship:

fiveohfour 02-08-2013 05:26 PM

as far as differences between the st50 and gt50 i keep seeing the THX as being the only difference besides the processor and that calibration can make the pic look just as good, this is all well just wanted to throw out their that the GT does have the extra shades of gray as well, may be nothing to you but worth mention. So people are having luck with Best Buy price matching Pauls is that correct?

cubsoxbull 02-10-2013 06:07 AM

I can't believe Homedirect, they sent one guy to deliver my VT65 inch TV. I helped the guy bring in the TV and contacted Pauls customer service after he left. Pauls was very nice about it and apologized that this should never have happened. They are going to contact Homedirect to find out why this happened and in the mean time they are sending me a very nice Panasonic 3D Blu Ray player for my troubles.

Briantime 02-10-2013 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skimrn (Post 57421528)
I am a very picky person when it comes to picture quality(Previous owner of Kuro). But I am not happy with stock THX settings on my 65VT50. It's got a little hazy, brownish tone.

I searched the net for recommended picture setting and BAM! There it was! Listed by cnet as calibrated settings and I LOVE it! The picture looks perfect! Thank you Cnet! Here's the link:

http://forums.cnet.com/7723-19410...hreadPopup :worship:

I had a similar experience. The sheer number of image controls available make it a challenge to dial in a perfect picture. My solution was to buy the Disney World of Wonder TV calibration disc. About $18 from Amazon. Outstanding disc and very easy to use. You can dial in your TV to a level near a professional calibration in 30 minutes.

Maybe even borrow this disc from your library? Better yet :)


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