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roller9 01-25-2013 11:59 PM

Costco Jan. 31-Feb. 24, 2013 Seagate 4tb Backup Plus $159.99
 
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Costco Jan. 31-Feb. 24, 2013 Seagate 4tb Backup Plus $159.99

wikipost 01-25-2013 11:59 PM

This post can and should be edited by users like you :)
 
The ones that have Windows 7 label (7200 RPM Barracuda XT) have a P/N that ends in B on the top of the box next to the date stamp. The 5900 RPM Barracuda version P/N at the top of the box does not. Hope this helps someone trying to score the XT versions.

chesterfielder 01-26-2013 07:14 AM

Very nice, thanks.

To all those who can't read and jumped the gun like me, this is for next week. They have the 3TB for 129 now.

schnoid 01-26-2013 10:10 AM

Thanks for the info, my brother was just telling me about this, but he thought it started this weekend. Sucks that I have to wait 'til next week for it. Gonna be an awesome deal though!

neuromix 01-26-2013 10:21 AM

are these easy to open to use for a desktop?

roller9 01-26-2013 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neuromix (Post 57146394)
are these easy to open to use for a desktop?

yup, search youtube for videos

playsccr 01-27-2013 07:30 AM

What's the drive inside?

jbaruch76 01-27-2013 07:43 AM

is it a single 4 tb drive inside?

darkhunter 01-28-2013 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbaruch76 (Post 57164004)
is it a single 4 tb drive inside?

Yes it is

Quote:

Originally Posted by playsccr (Post 57163836)
What's the drive inside?

Probably a seagate 5400 rpm

playsccr 01-28-2013 08:23 AM

how would these work inside a synology 412+? i was thinking of cracking them open to put in my new NAS?

Phylum 01-28-2013 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by playsccr (Post 57185430)
how would these work inside a synology 412+? i was thinking of cracking them open to put in my new NAS?

As an owner of a DS411+ii, it would probably work just fine. If we knew exactly what kind of drive was in there you could check the Synology compatible drives matrix. [synology.com]

dgreene0 01-29-2013 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkhunter (Post 57184914)
Yes it is



Probably a seagate 5400 rpm

Enclosure is STCA4000100 with an internal drive model ST4000DX000 which is SATA3 at 7200rpm - on the compatibility list for my Thecus N2800 - yay, in for 2!

edplayer 01-30-2013 04:11 AM

here is one video on opening them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsEEQXpHcuQ

roller9 01-30-2013 10:52 PM

Also, you can check what drive is inside any enclosure without removing it by using SIW...google it

chesterfielder 01-31-2013 04:27 AM

Seagate Backup Plus 4TB Desktop Drive [costco.com]

Iron_Chin 01-31-2013 05:44 AM

I wonder if I can get Bestbuy to pricematch them. Worth a shot I guess

J03 01-31-2013 05:50 AM

arg... this is killing me... not sure if I should pick up a dual bay enclosure with 2-2TB drives or this one for significantly less...

fredstone 01-31-2013 12:21 PM

two drives means twice the chance of mechanical failure this one drive is better

is a great deal 4tb in one drive 7200 and better seagate software

costco gives extended warranty as do most credit cards

costco wont push this but really if you are ever not happy with your purchase they will make
it right no matter the time period they told me

dfoo 01-31-2013 04:10 PM

just bought this :3

dynezxice 01-31-2013 04:28 PM

anyone having issues entering shipping/billing addresses?

HookedonHD 02-01-2013 04:49 PM

FYI These are 5900 rpm drives!

roller9 02-01-2013 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HookedonHD (Post 57305338)
FYI These are 5900 rpm drives!

Cool perfect to yank from enclosure to use for HTPC

tran1981 02-02-2013 01:41 AM

Green drive?

edplayer 02-02-2013 05:21 PM

can anyone here confirm which drive is inside?

I just got one and I'm testing it out now. Seems to run fairly cool inside its case. I'm reading 43° C after my first transfer. 183GB averaging 122MB/s with all 100MB+ files.

roller9 02-02-2013 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edplayer (Post 57324248)
can anyone here confirm which drive is inside?

I just got one and I'm testing it out now. Seems to run fairly cool inside its case. I'm reading 43° C after my first transfer. 183GB averaging 122MB/s with all 100MB+ files.

use SIW

snowcrash 02-02-2013 08:31 PM

Hoping to get a confirmation from those of you that bought this specific drive at Costco that the drive can be taken out of the enclosure and used internally. Is the warranty voided also by doing this? Hoping to buy 3 of these to add to my media server.

pilot757 02-03-2013 02:23 PM

+$50 for a Costco membership kills the deal. But if you already have a membership or know somebody who does this is a great deal.

pilot757 02-03-2013 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snowcrash (Post 57327320)
Hoping to get a confirmation from those of you that bought this specific drive at Costco that the drive can be taken out of the enclosure and used internally. Is the warranty voided also by doing this? Hoping to buy 3 of these to add to my media server.

Use one of these to open it up http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/...28G9WPPLAW

Go to Seagate's web site and enter the serial number on the drive. If the warranty on the drive is longer then the warranty on the external you are good to go. If not just hang onto the case and pop it back in for warranty service.

cconklin1 02-03-2013 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snowcrash (Post 57327320)
Hoping to get a confirmation from those of you that bought this specific drive at Costco that the drive can be taken out of the enclosure and used internally. Is the warranty voided also by doing this? Hoping to buy 3 of these to add to my media server.

You bought it at COSTCO! You are really worried about manufacturers warranty?

Quote:

Originally Posted by pilot757 (Post 57339646)
Use one of these to open it up http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/...28G9WPPLAW

Go to Seagate's web site and enter the serial number on the drive. If the warranty on the drive is longer then the warranty on the external you are good to go. If not just hang onto the case and pop it back in for RETURN TO COSTCO.

fixed the above for you...

vaca_loca 02-03-2013 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pilot757 (Post 57339646)
Use one of these to open it up http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/...28G9WPPLAW

Go to Seagate's web site and enter the serial number on the drive. If the warranty on the drive is longer then the warranty on the external you are good to go. If not just hang onto the case and pop it back in for warranty service.

The warranty on one I got was until Nov 2015, so it is longer than 2 years. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by edplayer (Post 57324248)
can anyone here confirm which drive is inside?

I just got one and I'm testing it out now. Seems to run fairly cool inside its case. I'm reading 43° C after my first transfer. 183GB averaging 122MB/s with all 100MB+ files.

Barracuda XT ST4000DX000, it's 7200 RPM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HookedonHD (Post 57305338)
FYI These are 5900 rpm drives!

Mine was PN: 1CL160-570, that is a 7200 RPM drive. Doubt Seagate is using 2 different drives in the same enclosure....

einhander 02-03-2013 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chesterfielder (Post 57143030)
Very nice, thanks.

To all those who can't read and jumped the gun like me, this is for next week. They have the 3TB for 129 now.

Are u implying that u can't read?

einhander 02-03-2013 02:39 PM

Hm it says upgradeable to thunderbolt....

vaca_loca 02-03-2013 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by einhander (Post 57339844)
Hm it says upgradeable to thunderbolt....

Not cheaply.
http://microcenter.com/product/40...er_STAE129

They also have other 'portable' adapters, but you would need an extension cable for those (see below), e.g:
http://www.microcenter.com/produc...-_Portable
http://microcenter.com/product/38...lt_Adapter

Cables like the ones below would work with any of the two adapters above:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Pro...6812400019
http://www.amazon.com/22-pin-Fema...B00310V8IY

edplayer 02-03-2013 06:35 PM

update. After a few more hours my drive settled at 52° C. Not that bad but it isn't warm in my room yet so I might end up taking it out of the case.

Jaxattaxs7 02-03-2013 06:39 PM

Thanks for showing me the upgrade to Thunderbolt, repped that is not cheap at all, bummer.

Jaxattaxs7 02-03-2013 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vaca_loca (Post 57339950)


Is this the same thing when you add the item above?


http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Thu...bolt+drive

Jaxattaxs7 02-03-2013 07:07 PM


Does it make sense to have thunderbolt over USB 3.0 since I am not use the drive will be fast enough to get better performance on thunderbolt v. USB 3.0. How fast can the transfer speeds be compared to the cables and technology that transfers them? Any good resources that answer this question? Hopefully I am making sense.

vaca_loca 02-03-2013 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaxattaxs7 (Post 57344064)
Is this the same thing when you add the item above?

http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Thu...bolt+drive

The item you mention is the first one I mentioned.. no cable is necessary... but that one is the expensive dock (>$150)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaxattaxs7 (Post 57344200)
Does it make sense to have thunderbolt over USB 3.0 since I am not use the drive will be fast enough to get better performance on thunderbolt v. USB 3.0. How fast can the transfer speeds be compared to the cables and technology that transfers them? Any good resources that answer this question? Hopefully I am making sense.

I don't think there is much benefit for thunderbolt for this drive in particular, except that it will probably run as smooth as if it were connected internally to your PC. If you were connecting a fast SSD through thunderbolt, then yes, there might be more of a speed difference.

stannc 02-03-2013 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iron_Chin (Post 57261134)
I wonder if I can get Bestbuy to pricematch them. Worth a shot I guess


Best Buy doesn't PM warehouse clubs.

edplayer 02-03-2013 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaxattaxs7 (Post 57344200)
Does it make sense to have thunderbolt over USB 3.0 since I am not use the drive will be fast enough to get better performance on thunderbolt v. USB 3.0.


Doesn't matter which you use as long as you don't use a USB 2 (or lower) port.

Captainpsp 02-10-2013 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vaca_loca (Post 57339754)
The warranty on one I got was until Nov 2015, so it is longer than 2 years. :)



Barracuda XT ST4000DX000, it's 7200 RPM



Mine was PN: 1CL160-570, that is a 7200 RPM drive. Doubt Seagate is using 2 different drives in the same enclosure....

Bought 6 for NAS. Opened and all 6 are ST4000DM000 Drives. The 5900 RPM version.
Not much on google as far as reviews for these.

hhjr888 02-10-2013 05:42 PM

Is it easy to put drive enclosure back together again in case I have to return a faulty drive?

elviso33 02-10-2013 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captainpsp (Post 57492914)
Bought 6 for NAS. Opened and all 6 are ST4000DM000 Drives. The 5900 RPM version.
Not much on google as far as reviews for these.


What was the part number. The other person had p/n of 1CL160-570 that was the 7200. My Costco in concord ca did not have any pn starting with 1cl they all had some other number. Wonder if seagate is replacing the 7200 drives for the slower on the new drives.

Elviso

vaca_loca 02-11-2013 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elviso33 (Post 57498938)
What was the part number. The other person had p/n of 1CL160-570 that was the 7200. My Costco in concord ca did not have any pn starting with 1cl they all had some other number. Wonder if seagate is replacing the 7200 drives for the slower on the new drives.

Elviso

Good catch... I was thinking of getting another, might have to look at the boxes closely to make sure I get the right one.

Quote:

Originally Posted by hhjr888 (Post 57494880)
Is it easy to put drive enclosure back together again in case I have to return a faulty drive?

Yes, if you have a plastic pry tool it helps to avoid breaking the enclosure clips. Just look at one of the dis assembly videos on youtube to make it easier.

NewtonFine 02-11-2013 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iron_Chin (Post 57261134)
I wonder if I can get Bestbuy to pricematch them. Worth a shot I guess

Staples will PM [staples.com] to Costco(.com). I plan on using my $25 off coupon to bring the price down to $134.99 b4 tax. :cool:

Also will try to PM via live chat, so I can get 5%/5.5% cashback...that is assuming I ordered one today.

Captainpsp 02-11-2013 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elviso33 (Post 57498938)
What was the part number. The other person had p/n of 1CL160-570 that was the 7200. My Costco in concord ca did not have any pn starting with 1cl they all had some other number. Wonder if seagate is replacing the 7200 drives for the slower on the new drives.

Elviso


Went to costco to see if I can see a differece in packaging or case. Low and behold it was right there staring at me.

The DX (7200rpm) drives have the case that says "Windows 7 Compatible" with additional sticker that says "Windows 8 Compatible" kinda stuck on top.

The DM (5900rpm) drives just say "Windows 8 Compatible"...

Hope this helps somebody

firemedic1343 02-15-2013 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captainpsp (Post 57509122)
Went to costco to see if I can see a differece in packaging or case. Low and behold it was right there staring at me.

The DX (7200rpm) drives have the case that says "Windows 7 Compatible" with additional sticker that says "Windows 8 Compatible" kinda stuck on top.

The DM (5900rpm) drives just say "Windows 8 Compatible"...

Hope this helps somebody

Nice catch thx for posting.

bennynihon 02-15-2013 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captainpsp (Post 57492914)
Bought 6 for NAS. Opened and all 6 are ST4000DM000 Drives. The 5900 RPM version.
Not much on google as far as reviews for these.

Do we know if these drives are good for use in a NAS? More precisely, do they have TLER/ERC enabled? Thanks

DarnCrazy 02-15-2013 08:51 PM

4TB for 160 seems like a pretty slick deal to me, especially when considering the unlimited Costco warranty...debating whether I should buy 3 drives...

Behave 02-15-2013 09:43 PM

Where is the 25 off 100 coupon?

Captainpsp 02-16-2013 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarnCrazy (Post 57615688)
4TB for 160 seems like a pretty slick deal to me, especially when considering the unlimited Costco warranty...debating whether I should buy 3 drives...

That warranty is what made the decision easy.

DaSoul 02-16-2013 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bennynihon (Post 57613516)
Do we know if these drives are good for use in a NAS? More precisely, do they have TLER/ERC enabled? Thanks

Most likely 100% these drives dont have tler and erc. These are reserved for "enterprise" level drives now.

Not to say they wont work in a NAS that uses software raid. They will most likely work in a Synology for example. They will probably also work fine for software type raid systems like unraid.

DarnCrazy 02-16-2013 11:26 PM

Well I got 3 of the Seagate 4TB drives from Costco. All the external drives in the store said "Windows 8 compatible" on the boxes but still contained the 7200RPM XT ST4000DX000 inside. I actually wanted these drives so a huge plus!

This was in the Livermore, CA store if anyone is curious.

Wiznaz 02-22-2013 02:02 PM

Went to Costco in CT and bought 2 of the drives.

'Windows 8' was 5400rpm
'Windows 7' was 7200rpm

DealsBrokeMe 02-22-2013 02:20 PM

Anyway to make this connect to a network port on router?

medbuyer 02-22-2013 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DealsBrokeMe (Post 57766418)
Anyway to make this connect to a network port on router?

not really since it doesn't have a network port to being with...

UNLESS....

you have a pc that's running 24/7, connect it to that, share it and then map the drive...

vaca_loca 02-23-2013 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DealsBrokeMe (Post 57766418)
Anyway to make this connect to a network port on router?

Here you go:
http://slickdeals.net/f/5852606-Pogoplug-Classic-Media-Sharing-Device-in-Pink-or-Black-POGO-B01-or-POGO-P21-15-Free-Shipping

Check out the wiki link of the previous thread, seems you can install ArchLinux on this tiny server.

iq100 02-23-2013 06:16 AM

Packages marked 'Windows 8' may be either 5900 or 7200 rpm
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Captainpsp (Post 57509122)
Went to costco to see if I can see a differece in packaging or case. Low and behold it was right there staring at me.

The DX (7200rpm) drives have the case that says "Windows 7 Compatible" with additional sticker that says "Windows 8 Compatible" kinda stuck on top.

The DM (5900rpm) drives just say "Windows 8 Compatible"...

Hope this helps somebody


While you may get a Baraccuda 5900 DM0000 drive inside packaging that mentions Windows 8, you may also get a Barraccuda XT 7200 DX000.

I say this because I have two opened enclosures in front of me. The same identical Windows 8 printing on both boxes! Event the PN on the sticker on the black plastic enclosure is the same: '1DXAP4-500 4TB'. Note the X in the part number here does NOT mean 7200 rpm.

I doubt Seagate cares much about which box they use to throw the black plastic external drive enclosure into. They certainly do not care to document what you are buying as to 7200 or 5900 rpm. It this was an automombile manufacturer who played foot loose and fancy free with the engine the plopped into your brand new car, there would be hell to pay. State Attorney General hell. Some may rememember when Cadillac threw in engines marked Oldsmobile and had to pay a substantial penalty. If memory serves me, the engines were the same specification, just built on different assembly lines. In the case of Seagate the disks are NOT the same. 7200 rpm is significantly different than 5900 rpm. Note though that some may prefer the 5900 rpm because it is a newer design and may have less heat. Regardless, IMHO this could be class action suit. Contract law requires specificity as to elements of a purchase that are viewed as material to such purchase. I doubt Seagate would succeed in claiming this information is 'proprietary'. How Seagate manufacures a drive may be proprietary, but NOT its RPM.

whozee 02-23-2013 10:22 AM

If I plan on using this as an external hard drive for backup purposes, how reliable is this model compared to the previous Seagate 3TB for $99 @! CostCo during BF?

All I care about is reliability, thanks!

husky55 02-24-2013 04:37 AM

My 4 TB Seagate: PN STCA4000600 Product of Thailand, Windows 8 Compatible in the front, but compatible with windows 7, windows Vista, windows XP in the back. This is on the box, have not opened it yet. I thought Seagate only make 7200 HD now.

Captainpsp 02-24-2013 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iq100 (Post 57776134)
While you may get a Baraccuda 5900 DM0000 drive inside packaging that mentions Windows 8, you may also get a Barraccuda XT 7200 DX000.

I say this because I have two opened enclosures in front of me. The same identical Windows 8 printing on both boxes! Event the PN on the sticker on the black plastic enclosure is the same: '1DXAP4-500 4TB'. Note the X in the part number here does NOT mean 7200 rpm.

I doubt Seagate cares much about which box they use to throw the black plastic external drive enclosure into. They certainly do not care to document what you are buying as to 7200 or 5900 rpm. It this was an automombile manufacturer who played foot loose and fancy free with the engine the plopped into your brand new car, there would be hell to pay. State Attorney General hell. Some may rememember when Cadillac threw in engines marked Oldsmobile and had to pay a substantial penalty. If memory serves me, the engines were the same specification, just built on different assembly lines. In the case of Seagate the disks are NOT the same. 7200 rpm is significantly different than 5900 rpm. Note though that some may prefer the 5900 rpm because it is a newer design and may have less heat. Regardless, IMHO this could be class action suit. Contract law requires specificity as to elements of a purchase that are viewed as material to such purchase. I doubt Seagate would succeed in claiming this information is 'proprietary'. How Seagate manufacures a drive may be proprietary, but NOT its RPM.

All I can say is I have consistently gotten DM drives in windows 8 printed logo on boxes, and DX drives in Windows 7 sticker (which is not printed but stuck om top of the boxes). I have done 11 drives now. Same result.

iq100 02-24-2013 07:37 AM

Separately from the 'sticker', what is printed on the box?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Captainpsp (Post 57791492)
All I can say is I have consistently gotten DM drives in windows 8 printed logo on boxes, and DX drives in Windows 7 sticker (which is not printed but stuck om top of the boxes). I have done 11 drives now. Same result.

Thanks for your reply. The two boxes I mentioned were printed with the Window 8 reference on the box. No stickers. Also I did NOT buy from Costco. The one with 5900 rpme, Barracuda (no XT,) DM000 inside was from Staples. The one with 7200 rpm, Barracuda XT, DX000 inside was from Newgg.

When you write>"... DX drives in Windows 7 sticker (which is not printed but stuck om top of the boxes) ..."
Separately from the 'sticker', what is printed on the box? Does the box printing mention 'Windows 8', or only 'Windows 7'. Are you saying that Costco, or someone else, went thru the effort to put a sticker on what is the SAME box to identify which were 7200 rpm?

Thanks for your help to figure this out. I suspect your experience is only good for Costco.

pglover19 02-24-2013 11:45 AM

Is there a utility that you can run to determine if the drive is DX or DM? I just purchased the drive from Costco and run the SeaTools utility and is not telling me whether the drive is DX or DM. What utility are you quys using?

pglover19 02-24-2013 12:02 PM

After running some test with the SeaTools utility, I believe the model # of the drive is
ST4000DX000-1CL160.

I would stil like to confirm how others are determining whether the drive is DM or DX without opening the enclosure.

MaicoWin 02-24-2013 03:44 PM

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The closest Costco to me only had the packages with the Windows 8 compatibility logo on them, so I had to go to another one that had both packages with the Windows 7 or Windows 8 compatibility logos. What's interesting to note is that both of the PN numbers and dates for both Windows 7 and Windows 8 packages were exactly the same, despite what is mentioned in the Wiki.

Anyway, I went ahead and got the package with the Windows 7 compatibility logo as had been confirmed above, and according to SIW it is a 7200 RPM drive. I've been impressed with the SeaGate brand, and I still have a silver 500GB FreeAgent Go external hard drive that has been working flawlessly for several years. I would expect this one to work without a hitch too, and if anything does go wrong, you can just take it back to Costco. Gotta love their customer service, them and Nordstrom.

schnoid 02-24-2013 08:26 PM

I bit the bullet and bought 4 of these today. Not sure if I'm gonna crack them open or not. All the ones at my costco have the Windows 8 logo on them for whatever that means. I know these went for $150 on ebay a few days ago, but I was willing to spend 10 bucks more to get it from costco even if it's only a 90 day warranty now. Just less hassle if I decide not to keep any of 'em.

fis 03-01-2013 07:26 PM

Finally opened mine. Windows 8 logo on the package. 4000DM000 on the inside. Oh well. Planning to use them in a ReadyNAS Ultra 2. Hoping I don't have compatibility issues!

Captainpsp 03-13-2013 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fis (Post 57927576)
Finally opened mine. Windows 8 logo on the package. 4000DM000 on the inside. Oh well. Planning to use them in a ReadyNAS Ultra 2. Hoping I don't have compatibility issues!

Biggest probem with using DM drives in NAS is not the speed. Its TLER. Bigger the array bigger the problem.
Read the first review on this WD red drive.
http://www.amazon.com/WD-Red-NAS-...XzT3_0_0_0

I know they are not the same but I want to emphasize the TLER and how important it is for NAS.

fis 04-28-2013 10:33 PM

My two 4TB drives pulled from these enclosures have been humming along great in a ReadyNAS Ultra 2, and remarkably, I sold the empty enclosures on ebay for $32 each.


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