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PRINTABLECOUPON 01-27-2013 10:07 AM

Why are my monthly payments showing to be so high?
 
Thinking about buying a house

purchase price 110k
Down payment 45k
Interest rate 2.75%

Loan is FHA

Monthly payment estimated by bank 775 a month

Monthly payment estimated from zillow: 625 a month

How is there an extra 150 a month ?

tennis8363 01-27-2013 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by PRINTABLECOUPON (Post 57166458)
Thinking about buying a house

purchase price 110k
Down payment 45k
Interest rate 2.75%

Loan is FHA

Monthly payment estimated by bank 775 a month

Monthly payment estimated from zillow: 625 a month

How is there an extra 150 a month ?

Property taxes, homeowners insurance, flood insurance if applicable.

PRINTABLECOUPON 01-27-2013 11:04 AM

zillow includes home owners insurance at 800/yr as well as property tax rate of 1.125 which is close if not almost exact to my area

tennis8363 01-27-2013 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by PRINTABLECOUPON (Post 57167516)
zillow includes home owners insurance at 800/yr as well as property tax rate of 1.125 which is close if not almost exact to my area

Just look at your good faith estimate and other paperwork to see the added costs. Because of the whole housing fiasco over the last few years, they made the forms pretty simple to trace. I just closed on a house last week and I was able to match up exactly with any of the calculators once I knew flood and homeowners insurance and property taxes.

Unfortunately your post doesn't give much information, definitely not enough for us to solve this for you.

heavylee 01-27-2013 02:27 PM

Are you financing any closing costs that would account for the higher monthly payment?

figarotigger 01-27-2013 11:57 PM

Ask to see the good faith estimate.
As others have stated :property taxes, home owners insurance, flood insurance.
MIP-mortgage insurance-with the down payment, you should be able to opt out, but you DO have to opt out, it is not automatic.
Homeowners association? Some neighborhoods have one. If the street that the home is located on is NOT a city street, there are usually greater costs due to the road needing to be maintained. There is a neighborhood that assesses a fee for "community improvement" in the middle of a large suburb-just one street has a monthly assessment. in the entire suburb. Weird, but something to check into.
Liens
Assessments -are there sidewalks being built, other city/county "improvements" that you will be liable to pay?
Check the length of the loan-is Zillow x # of years and the bank Y?

BTW-specify that the bank use the same title company as the previous owners. Because the title company has already performed the search for the previous loan/s, the $$ is much lower than if a new title company has to search. A savings of a few hundred anyway.

Congrats on buying a house!

dealgate 01-28-2013 02:17 AM

Sounds like PMI.

saladdin 01-28-2013 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PRINTABLECOUPON (Post 57166458)
Thinking about buying a house

purchase price 110k
Down payment 45k
Interest rate 2.75%

Loan is FHA

Monthly payment estimated by bank 775 a month

Monthly payment estimated from zillow: 625 a month

How is there an extra 150 a month ?

Looks like you are doing 15 years.

this is basic homebuying expense. MI, insurance and property taxes is my guess.

This is just the beginning when it comes to ongoing expenses with a house. Property taxes tend to go up and inurances rates increase. Every year your payment will likely change.

bonkman 01-28-2013 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by dealgate (Post 57181136)
Sounds like PMI.

Not when their LTV is 60%.

Quote:

Originally Posted by PRINTABLECOUPON (Post 57166458)
Thinking about buying a house

purchase price 110k
Down payment 45k
Interest rate 2.75%

Loan is FHA

Monthly payment estimated by bank 775 a month

Monthly payment estimated from zillow: 625 a month

How is there an extra 150 a month ?

Ever think zillow is wrong? Try using a different calculator, say from a different bank.

saladdin 01-28-2013 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by bonkman (Post 57182850)
Not when their LTV is 60%.


Ever think zillow is wrong? Try using a different calculator, say from a different bank.

100% right about the LTV. missed that.

I wonder if the bank forgot to take off the MI payment portion.

bonkman 01-28-2013 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by saladdin (Post 57183048)
100% right about the LTV. missed that.

I wonder if the bank forgot to take off the MI payment portion.

It's possible. If so, it should be quite clear in the cost breakdown. With my two different mortgage companies that I've dealt with, they always have broken down payments in terms of principal, tax/insurance, and PMI.

saladdin 01-28-2013 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by bonkman (Post 57183094)
It's possible. If so, it should be quite clear in the cost breakdown. With my two different mortgage companies that I've dealt with, they always have broken down payments in terms of principal, tax/insurance, and PMI.

Right again. If she looks at the 2 breakdowns it should be easy to figure out.

MNGuy183 01-28-2013 08:26 AM

Why would you be doing and FHA loan with such a large down payment?? Do a conventional loan and skip out on PMI.

My calculations show that your Principal and Interest payments should be $441.10 on a 15 year loan or $265.36 on a 30 year loan. Now add on your property taxes and insurance (annual amounts divided by 12) and you should get what your monthly payment should be.

If you're getting charged PMI on this loand go to another lender!!! You should not have to pay this with a down payment over 20%.

PiratePenguin 01-28-2013 09:50 AM

I agree. Its FHA which has the PMI. Go the conventional route since you have enough down payment.

saladdin 01-28-2013 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by nizzy1115 (Post 57187912)
I agree. Its FHA which has the PMI. Go the conventional route since you have enough down payment.


As Bonk pointed out to me. FHA loses MI after 20% down payment. It can't be MI.

Not disagreeing with going conventional. Maybe she has score issues (but 45k down would sure help)?

PiratePenguin 01-28-2013 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by saladdin (Post 57189238)
As Bonk pointed out to me. FHA loses MI after 20% down payment. It can't be MI.

Not disagreeing with going conventional. Maybe she has score issues (but 45k down would sure help)?

FHA requires PMI regardless of how much money is put down.

saladdin 01-28-2013 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by nizzy1115 (Post 57189300)
FHA requires PMI regardless of how much money is put down.


Don't think so.

FHA requirements include mortgage insurance primarily for borrowers making a down payment of less than 20 percent.

http://www.fha.com/fha_requiremen...urance.cfm

ElectroWolf 01-28-2013 10:59 AM

You sure that your property taxes are only 1.125%? That's awfully low. Heck, in my area, property taxes are 3%. That could make a big difference on your monthly payment.

Check your county assessor's website for comparable properties near you and see what they're paying for property taxes.

Edit - I just checked here:

http://www.davedowns.com/propertytaxes.htm

And I see a rate averaging around 2.5%.

So, your base mortgage of $65,000, at a 2.75% interest has a monthly payment of around $441.00 a month. Insurance at $800 a year has a rate of $66.00 a month. Property taxes on an assessed value of roughly $110,000 at a yearly rate of 2.5%, for a total of $2,750, or ~$230.00 a month.

Add all that up, and you get a monthly payment of roughly $737 a month. That's much closer to the bank's estimate of $775 a month.

saladdin 01-28-2013 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ElectroWolf (Post 57189764)
You sure that your property taxes are only 1.125%? That's awfully low. Heck, in my area, property taxes are 3%. That could make a big difference on your monthly payment.

Check your county assessor's website for comparable properties near you and see what they're paying for property taxes.

Edit - I just checked here:

http://www.davedowns.com/propertytaxes.htm

And I see a rate averaging around 2.5%.

So, your base mortgage of $65,000, at a 2.75% interest has a monthly payment of around $441.00 a month. Insurance at $800 a year has a rate of $66.00 a month. Property taxes on an assessed value of roughly $110,000 at a yearly rate of 2.5%, for a total of $2,750, or ~$230.00 a month.

Add all that up, and you get a monthly payment of roughly $737 a month. That's much closer to the bank's estimate of $775 a month.


Just to make people feel bad. My total annual property taxes City and Count are 407 a year.

Like the OP my mortgage is 68k. My total payment is 435 ish for all. Va loan, no PMI.

Location, location, location.

bonkman 01-29-2013 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by saladdin (Post 57190744)
Just to make people feel bad. My total annual property taxes City and Count are 407 a year.

Like the OP my mortgage is 68k. My total payment is 435 ish for all. Va loan, no PMI.

Location, location, location.

yeah, you're not kidding about the 3 Ls. A 68k mortgage will get you a nice garage around me :lol:

saladdin 01-29-2013 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by bonkman (Post 57206766)
yeah, you're not kidding about the 3 Ls. A 68k mortgage will get you a nice garage around me :lol:


68k got me 1400 sq ft brick sitting on an acre with a 2 car covered carport.

But the median household income is 36k.

acesmuzic 01-29-2013 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by bonkman (Post 57206766)
yeah, you're not kidding about the 3 Ls. A 68k mortgage will get you a nice garage around me :lol:

complete with some rats for pets? :lol:

ElectroWolf 01-30-2013 11:18 AM

C'mon OP, don't leave us hanging! We want to know where the discrepancy was with your monthly payments! :whee:

ciscovpn 02-02-2013 05:27 AM

OP, where are you?

ElectroWolf 02-02-2013 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ciscovpn (Post 57313174)
OP, where are you?

Check OP's past posting history. He has a history of creating a thread, and then dashing; never to return again... :whee:

saladdin 02-03-2013 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ElectroWolf (Post 57318072)
Check OP's past posting history. He has a history of creating a thread, and then dashing; never to return again... :whee:


OP is my mom?


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