Refurbished Lenovo IdeaTab S2109 9.7 Inch Dual Core 16GB Tablet Android 4.0 $161.40 Shipped At Lenovo
 

http://outlet.lenovo.com/SEUILibr...de=2291XF1


I was able to add to cart and site shows 360 left.

NOTE: The lenovo site states no bluetooth but I think it does come with it. It also appears to have GPS and this article states it can take a 64 GB SD card.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2...887,00.asp


Condition
Refurbished
Processor
Dual-core ARM Cortex-A9 MPCore™ (1.0 GHz per core, dual-core)( )
Operating system
Android™ 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich) - United States
Graphics
PowerVR SGX540 graphics integrated in TI OMAP™4430
Memory
1GB LPDDR2 400MHz mobile DDR Memory
Display
9.7" Multitouch Display (1024 x 728), IPS panel, VibrantView (glossy), LED backlight with Front 1.3 MP Camera"
Pointing device
Charger port, micro HDMI, micro USB,SD card Slot microphone / headphone combo jack (3.5 mm)
Hard Drive
16GB eMMC (embedded Multi Media Card) flash memory on board
Optical Drive
No Optical - Tablet
Battery
3 Cell Lithium Ion Battery (Up to 10 Hour Run Time)
Network Card
11b/g/n Wireless WiFi
No Bluetooth

16GB Lenovo IdeaTab S2109 9.7" Android 4.0 Tablet (Refurbished) $161 + Free Shipping
 

Lenovo Outlet has 16GB Lenovo IdeaTab S2109 9.7" Android 4.0 Tablet (Refurbished) for $161.40 with free shipping. Thanks LuncheonMeat

Specs

• Dual-core ARM Cortex-A9 MPCore 1GHz
• 1GB DDR2
• 16GB Internal Storage
• 9.7" 1024x728 Multitouch IPS Display
• PowerVR SGX540 Graphics
• WiFi N
• 3-Cell Lithium Ion Battery
• Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich) OS

Review courtesy of Engadget

This post can and should be edited by users like you :)
 

No Rear Camera, Only Front

Touchscreen tablet
Dual-core ARM®
Cortex®
-A9 MPCore™ (1.0 GHz per core, dual-core) with Symmetric
Multiprocessing (SMP)
1GB std / 1GB max
7
/ 400MHz LPDDR2, mobile memory
8GB, 16GB, or 32GB / eMMC (embedded Multi Media Card) fl ash memory on board
one microSD Card slot
PowerVR SGX540 graphics integrated in TI OMAP™4430, provides dedicated 2D/3D
graphics hardware accelerator, uses system memory, OpenGL ES 2.0
supports 1080p Full HD video out via micro HDMI connector, supports HDCP
9.7" (246.4mm) XGA (1024x768) TFT color, IPS panel, VibrantView (glossy),
LED backlight, 420 nits, 4:3 aspect ratio, 900:1 contrast ratio, 133 pixels per inch (ppi)
Viewing angle: 178° (+/- 89°) horizontal, 178° (+/- 89°) vertical
Capacitive-type multi-touch, supports 5-point
Front camera: 1.3-megapixel, fi xed focus
Rear camera: None
720p HD video capture (front camera)
Texas Instruments™ (TI™) TWL6040 Low-Power audio codec /
four SRS®
certifi ed speakers (0.7 watt x 4) / SRS TruMedia™ audio enhancement /
integrated microphone
Audio formats: MP3, AAC, AAC+, eAAC+, AMR-NB/WB, FLAC, MIDI, Ogg Vorbis, WAV
Video formats: VP8, MPEG-2, MPEG-4, H.263, H.264
Virtual keyboard via Android, portrait and landscape support
Volume up, volume down, and power buttons
Ambient Light Sensor
Accelerometer (G) sensor, supports 3-axis accelerometer
3-axis gyroscope
Digital compass
Texas Instruments (TI) OMAP4430
Charger port, micro HDMI, micro USB, microphone / headphone combo jack (3.5 mm)
11b/g/n wireless
4
, TI WL1281 chip (WiLink™ 7.0 single-chip connectivity solution), WiFi,
Bluetooth, GPS, and FM transmit/receive cores integrated in a single chip
None
None
GPS (Global Positioning System), integrated in WL1281
Bluetooth 3.0 wireless, integrated in WL1281
FM Radio with RDS (Radio Data System), FM transmit/receive core integrated in WL1281
(WxHxT): 9.7" x 7.3" x 0.35"; 247mm x 185.3mm x 8.9mm
starting at 1.28 lb (580 g);
Top: Black frame;
Bottom: Matt Gun metal gray
Top: Glass cover;
Bottom: PC/ABS
Lithium Ion, 3-cell (24.8Wh)
up to approximately 10 hr (web browsing or video playback), up to 700 hr on standby
IdeaTab S2109, AC adapter (charger), USB cable, rubber case, and documentation
Positioning
Processor
Memory
Storage
Storage extension
Graphics
Display
Multi-touch
Camera
Video capture
Audio support
Media capable
Keyboard
Control buttons
Light sensor
G-sensor
Gyroscope
eCompass
Platform
Ports
WLAN
WWAN
SIM card
GPS
Bluetooth®
FM radio
Dimensions
3
Weight
2
Case color
Case material
Battery - type
Battery - life
10
In the box
IdeaTab®
S2109 (2291) - web only models
15-watt AC adapter (100-240V)
RoHS-compliant
2291-1NU Cortex-A9 1.00 Dual 1GB 9.7" LED IPS 1.3M/None PowerVR SGX540 8GB8
11b/g/n
28
Gray BT3.0 3-cell GPS None Android 4.0
2291-1PU Cortex-A9 1.00 Dual 1GB 9.7" LED IPS 1.3M/None PowerVR SGX540 16GB 11b/g/n Gray BT3.0 3-cell GPS None Android 4.0
2291-1QU Cortex-A9 1.00 Dual 1GB 9.7" LED IPS 1.3M/None PowerVR SGX540 32GB 11b/g/n Gray BT3.0 3-cell GPS None Android 4.0
Type-model GHz
Widescreen
Memory Storage display
WiFi
802.11
OS
preload
Personal Systems Reference (PSREF)
© Lenovo
(GOX1-2) May 2012
See footnotes for important warranty information
US model(s) announced May 3, 2012
Preloaded operating system20
- Android™ 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich)
Preloaded applications
14
(only some
listed)
• Lenovo App Shop
• Documents To Go®
• Norton™ Tablet Security
• PrinterShare™ Mobile Print
• Zinio
• AccuWeather
• Evernote
• News Republic
• ooVoo™ Video Call
• Skype™
• SugarSync
• Matt Gun Metal Gray unibody shell with 9.7” IPS panel display
• Quad speakers with powerful dual bass
• 5-point capacitive multi-touch, with G-sensor and light sensor inside for a delightful
interactive experience
• Extra slim and light; just 8.9mm thin and 580g weight (vary by confi guration)
• 1080p playback via micro HDMI port
• SRS TruMedia provides the unique sound enhancement feature that making audio
sound become natural, clearer and beautiful
• Lenovo App Shop and Android Market ensure ready access to thousands of useful apps
• Award-winning Lenovo Services to keep you on-line and on-the-go
Back
color
Camera
Front/rear
(Megapixel)
Pro
cessor
Battery
Limited Warranty
12
➫ 1-year parts and labor
for covered HW repairs only
➫ Available Warranty Extension:
• 2-year (total duration) warranty
extension 04W8188
➫ 24x7
16
toll-free support for warranty
issues during the warranty period
12
via 877-453-6686
➫ Award-winning local support, visit
http://consumersupport.lenovo.com/us/
en/supportphonelist/supportphone.html
Graphics
BlueCores tooth GPS WWAN

I have the Nexus 7 and was thinking of getting a 10" tablet as well. Don't want to spend big bucks as I'm not sure how much I'd use it...hmmm?

okay deal if you can get past the horrible resolution.

For the price, same resolution as ipad 2

the K1 is a couple of dollars more..which i think is a better buy..
they also have the thinkpad..which is $225

Gettin a new ipad instead

Same screen/resolution as my HP Touchpad so that's not a problem. I don't think there's a Jelly Bean ROM for it though, neither through Lenovo or 3rd party. Kernel source is released to the public so this could be a great device for devs to port ROMs to, but unfortunately the problem is it's not popular enough. I couldn't find any 3rd party ROMs for this at all.

got the k1 instead...

As good as these ideapads are, they are still inferior to the asus transformer which can be had for about the same price. there are brand new ones that pops up from time to time for about $199.

I wonder if it would be worthwhile to drop an extra $60 and get a quad core China tab with Retina display.

waiting for a good deal on the tf300 myself.

Can you please point me to a Transformer deal at this price point?

And no Bluetooth? What kind of tablet these days doesn't have Bluetooth.

review are not good for this one

I went with the KFHD 8.9 instead of something like this. For ~$100 more you get a much more modern tablet. The SD card/GPS on this one is nice if you need em though.

There's an X230 with an IPS screen for $474 right now in the outlet and an X220 with IPS for $400.
I would pick it up if I had the money.

Question, who wouldn't pay $75 more for the nexus 7, same exact specs, same everything except 10"?

Meaning a 10" for $275.

Not even close to the exact same specs...

I agree. Not what I was getting at. My point about this tablet is 10" is a big deal. Just look at the way the nexus 7 and nexus 10 are priced. And depending on what you are running, this is a very fine, branded, 10" tablet that will suit many needs. 10" is "in" (I'll wait for the thats what she said comments).

TWSS

The Nexus has a much better CPU and screen resolution but no SD card slot or HDMI. The last 2 items are what make this a good deal I feel. You can add up to a 64 GB card and store a ton of movies and music and play your movies back on a TV wherever you go. At $162 the pluses outweigh the minuses on this tablet.

I have the Nexus 7 and love it but am considering this tablet and selling my Nexus off.

Lol. You should be a stand up comedian.

The Lenovo k1 is also a decent tablet that can be had on ebay around $150. My only issue with both this ideapad and the k1 is build quality. They both seem very flimsy. I saw a review for this were the guy was bending it and creating marks on the screen with ease. I'd just on this, its punch is enough and its an ips 10" tablet. I don't need 1080p in a tablet, though its nice. But AHHHHH if the build quality were just better this would be slick. I tried out the nexus 7 awhile back, its perfect in everyway except 1 thing, its not a nexus 10. Why on gods green earth can't the nexus 10 be $300 is the 7 is $200.

bought an ThinkPad Tablet for around 285 $...

I found two, if you want to check them out:

http://www.androidtablets.net/for...moved.html

http://www.androidtablets.net/for...gapps.html

Those are for the A2109 and I do not think they will work on this tablet because they have different CPU's.

opps ... my bad. Guess I got hung up on the 2109 and didn't notice the letter.

For under $200 a Tegra 2 with 1280 x 800 IPS is pretty decent...

K1 review: http://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-IdeaPad-K1-Tablet-Review.63833.0.html

smithmal

Looking around this seems like a decent deal for a reasonable tablet. Not outstanding specs but decent. The mini HDMI would be useful for running out to TV, it supports 1080p output

got one of them A1 tablet for $79 Im sure my 7 year old niece will love it :)

I'll buy your nexus 7 .

I can wait. By the end of the year, there will be a big dump of all the current Android tablets.

I you can wait two years you will get the best deal of all.

Great "entry-level" tablet???

I've fallen out of favor with the Nexus ecosystem of tablets due to the no expandable memory or HDMI. Thats just ridiculous, how is it possibly a good thing to REDUCE the number of options on the user end??? A tablet shouldn't have to be a slave to the cloud to get media. Anybody arguing this needs a good punch to the face, starting with Google's R&D division.

Hey guys, whats better...this tablet or the Old Transformer TF101 Eee Pad? I already have the TF101, but I want to know if this is better...

The wait won't be that long Gapedo.

A lot of new tablets are slated to come out in the summer, which will include a new Nexus 7 and Samsungs. They sold tens of millions of current Nexus tabs. The price, as always, will fall right down because they aren't the only Android tab players.

The price of the new Nexus 7 is reported to be the same. So the old ones will go for a song.

Is there GPS? Good GPS that can be used on the road.

The nexus tablets are not meant for power users, they are trying to compete against other simple tablets like the ipad, kindle fire, etc... these tablets don't have expandable memory, hdmi, etc

The android tablet ecosystem is great because it offers all sorts of tablets for all sorts of users.

can this use the Google Play app store?

yes it can.

syas 4 left, but when i try adding to cart, its oos.

I'd say you stick to your TF101. The difference between the two does not justify buying a new ideapad. But that's just me!:)

Mine said 6LEFT!! hahah yea... i couldnt add it to cart either

No tablet is really meant for "power users" Im starting to understand the need and the market for a "Second screen" its a cool feature. But not something that should be priced above or close to a laptop, thats insane.

Two, we're in 2013, and we're taking tech OUT of tablets that we had since the beginning? Why? Because Apple and Google marketing says so? That's outrageous. Users want more options to get media from A to B, not less.

If they're gonna take shortcuts, the prices should fall accordingly. Google takes tech out and then give a BS marketing spin basically saying users are too dumb to handle multiple SD cards so we took care of the problem and now no more SD card.....

.....Oh but make sure to move all your media to Google Drive and if you have more than 5GB then we want more money now too.

Looks like it's back in stock. I was able to add to cart but I'm not buying one since I bought Thursday.

I agree that it's a dumb move to reduce connectivity options. I have always liked the Toshiba Thrive because of it's numerous ports and easily removable battery. I really don't understand why all modern tablets don't have a standard number of connections. I understand Apple likes to keep their devices sleek and pretty, but I'd hate to have to carry around dongles and adapters in order to use an iPad the same way I can use a Toshiba Thrive. That's a major reason I'd never buy an iPad for more than around $50.

Some tablet users may want more options, but most people who use a tablet don't need more options and don't care about more options. They just want something simple that works. They don't care about a bunch of ports. If they want a bunch of ports, they can go buy a laptop. Google and Apple dictate a lot of things that go on in the market for their own business reasons, this happens in lots of other tech ecosystems. This is not an outrageous concept. The tech market has always been filled with endless BS marketing spin. This is nothing new, welcome to 2013.

It's two-fold. It's design, and licensing. According to these links here...

http://electronics.stackexchange....happens-to


http://www.embeddedrelated.com/us...1682-1.php


....if you're building a device that uses an SD card. Then you have to pay the license fee to the "SD card association/group/whatever"



So the top manufacturers do away with the SD card once they gain marketshare, and then spin the BS about how it not needed.

The Toshiba Drive ALWAYS peaked my interests, "if I wanted a tablet" i would have picked the T Drive for its expansion slots, and its accessory kits are cheap and easy to get online as well.


I was also pointed in the direction of the Asus Transformer, but it seems just a bit too pricey for my needs right now. (I couldnt see myself using it for more than a toy and maybe had potential in my backpack to replace my laptop for when I go outside and hit various wi-fi spots.)

But now in 2013, without knowing the exact specs of the device, im afraid it could be lagging behind today's dual and quad core tablets.

I agree with the majority of what you said but it doesn''t make what they are doing right.


Come on now. you're gonna pay $200+ for a device, you dont want at least HDMI? The portability of the tablet is one of the main selling points. We're getting to the point were a household will have a laptop AND tablet, now to get basic functionality I should just stick with laptops. Google marketing would hate you. Apple will try to sell us an overpriced Macbook Air in comparison, for twice the cost.

This is gonna be another debate thats gonna classify Apple (and now even Google) fans as dumb, while the power users end up looking more savvy and again get more tech for less money.

Link, please?

Its even running the bleeding edge of android!

I don''t think paying $3k/yr is a big deal for Apple/Lenovo or any other company.
The real motive is profit in charging huge money for extra memory.

It is back in stock, i just ordered one , thanks OP!

It was back in stock, lol

Confuse users and offer higher internal storage units at a higher price point???. Its almost evil...Google, what happened to you???

The iPad is a huge seller. The iPad costs much more than $200. The iPad does not come with an hdmi or usb port. Therefore, most people don't care about an hdmi or usb port on a tablet. If an hdmi and usb port were such crucial features, these devices would not sell well. This is just one example, there are a many more.

Sincere question. What IS crucial when buying a tablet?

I was just able to add to cart and shows 175 left.

Still waiting for a link...

Wouldn't recommend this tab. Sold mine and got a Nexus. The bad viewing angle really will get annoying. The screen seemed less responsive too.

EDIT: I had the A2109. If this has a better screen this seems pretty slick.

Anyone who realizes the Nexus build quality is crap and Google/Asus support is typically bad with warranty issues taking 3-4 weeks unless you prepay for an exchange.

what is their return policy on refurb item? can u return it if u dont like it or wat?

I think they might have a spell check policy on returns...

Cool, I'm going to have a snack.

You must have had a different tablet. Mine has an 178 degree IPS panel [lenovo.com]. Same as the Nexus 7. Side by side they look the same from extreme angles.

See here (not my review)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?fea...QsQ#t=472s

15% restocking fee.
http://outlet.lenovo.com/outlet_u...opping_faq

danke sire

I usually regret buying something that's refurbished. Not sure if I want to go for this or not...

i was thinking about 10" tablet. too.....but only think about nexus 10..

Were you going to finish your sentence?

The build quality of the nexus 7 for $200 is great for that price range. I'm impressed with what google (nexus), blackberry(playbook), and amazon(kindle fire 1+2) are able to do with $200 tablets (although blackberries initial playbook price was substantially higher). The build quality of all 3 is outstanding in comparison to tablets like the archos g9, nook color, or lenovo a1.

That is my fear with this tablet, that the build quality will reflect that of the k1, flimsy. I'm not using this tablet as a server for my empire.............its a casual use device, this thing packs plenty punch for casual use. I just know if the build quality is like the k1 I had, I wont be too happy. Simply too much flex, tablets need a really solid feel even if it comes at the expense of some extra weight. I don't see this tablet offering that. A review I watched showed fingermarks in the screen with not much bending of the build, similar to what the archos g9 flaws are.

Also when comparing this to a nexus 7, realize the nexus 7 is the best price/value point for the 7" segment (unless you go into stuff I consider private label china, stuff thats not marketed like ainol or it use to be zenithinks, etc.). Even Asus is struggling to launch their own 7" $150 tablet to compete with the $200 nexus they made for google. They have to drop the gpu and cpu like crazy as well as the display quality to reach $50 lower, and I don't think thats worth the savings. So comparing this to the nexus 7 is the toughest test for it, but they are 2 completely different tablets. One being 10", slower, but lots of options and the other being a 7" locked down powerhouse for only $200.

For $160 this is a steal, just wish the build quality was better. The ports are there to make this a dynamic tablet, the processor could be better but meh, would it get this great of a discount then? There's reason for the Google nexus 10 to cost double what a 7" nexus cost, they simply don't have enough ports on the 7. Google does that intentionally, they also don't have the card slot, or else the nexus 10 might as well just have 1 storage option. This lenovo tablet really doesn't establish a real stronghold for buyers, so the marketing of the tablet is fairer to consumers, ya just got a cut it some slack with the processor. I also think that 10" really kicks up the value of a tablet to most people.

Been following tablets a LOOOOONG time and had enough of them to know this IS a deal, I said it when this was posted like friday I think. Thought it was FP worthy but people were refering too much to reviews to see its a 10" ips display, android 4.0, and storage upgradable tablet (even hdmi out 1080p). Those reviews were at a $350 price point, what would they be at a $200 price point? Probably amazing, and if you can save $40 getting it refurbed, I'd do that too. Great post FP, much love for this deal.

What's the difference between the s2109 and the a2109?

Well said. Its a $161 10" tablet from a reputable manufacturer. It is what it is, and at this price it merits front page.

My plan too. I'm counting on the ubiquity of the quad core tablets to push the dual core ones to firesale prices.
My trigger point is: a name brand 10" dual core for $150. Shouldn't be too hard to find.

BTW, last mother's day I bought my wife a refurb Acer A500 for $249.
She absolutely loves it and has used it every day since then.
Bought from an Amazon reseller but made sure it was factory refurb. Had a/c adapter included, not like Cowboom bullsh_t.

Cool story bro

Picked up a 64g Thinkpad Tablet for $317.00 shipped..

What? Link? That sounds amazing.

I believe you are referring to this:
http://dealsprime.com/nextway-f9x...et-pc.aspx

After my experience which Chipad from Evo deal, I would never ever buy one. The return was such a pain that it took 3 months to complete. It might be different with this seller though... who knows.

The original Asus Transformer TF101 is an order of magnitude better tablet than this Lenovo.

In fact, I don't understand why the mods put this on the front page.

cNet review of this Lenovo:

The good: The Lenovo IdeaTab S2109 has an appealing price, its speakers are powerful, and it sports a comfortable design with an uncluttered Android 4.0 interface.

The bad: The tablet misses the value mark with frequent app crashes, a low-resolution screen, stutter-filled movie performance, and only an average-quality camera.

The bottom line: The Lenovo IdeaTab S2109A has an appealing price, but it can't compete with similarly priced tablets in overall value.

And this thing is refurbished as well?

:shake:

if i am not mistaken.

main difference is processor:0

a2109:
tegra 3 quad core
newer tab
occassionally can be purchsed from offic depot @$200


s2019:
tegra 2 dual core (?)
older tab


edit:
below are specs from amazon:

Lenovo® IdeaTab® A2109
KEY SPECIFICATIONS

NVIDIA® T30SL 1.2GHz Quad-Core processor
Google Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich OS
9" LED display (1280x800)
LP DDR2 1GB memory, 16GB SSD storage
WLAN 802.11 b/g/n Wi-Fi, Bluetooth 3.0, GPS
Micro USB, MicroSD card, Micro HDMI
1.3M 720P/Front, 3M/Back webcams
Built-in speakers (2), Microphones (2), 3.5mm combo audio jack
FUL

You're right, I checked and mine was the A2109, not the S2109. Updated my original post.

What's with the demand for HDMI ports on tablets? A tablet is not intended as the centerpiece of a living room media hub and for 99%+ HDMI is unnecessary. The 1% that demands such things have no business crapping on all products that don't meet their minority needs. There are devices that meet those needs such as the Asus tablets when attached to their base, or most laptops.

If this was around $80 I'd buy one for kicks, but I don't see much value in this even at that price considering it will have a hell of a time with video playback. Last time I paid ~$150 for a tablet was for an HP TouchPad in August 2011 and I think that the hardware may have been superior (even with a lovely, hacked up version of Android, but that's what made it fun!), which is hugely disappointing.

bottom line
 

i have seen many generic or no name 10" tablets for $150 and i did not want to take a chance on them.
is this tablet S2109 atleast a great deal at $161 if i buy this for my wife? Is this as good as my IPAD 2?

wrong item

Really? A friend of mine uses his tablet as the heart of his media hub. Has his favorite films saved to a sd card, streams Netflix and Hulu, and streams his music via bluetooth. The hdmi basically means you don't have the need for a separate Roku box. When he has to he can move it to another room in a second. I have the Nexus 7 now and will probably get a 10" tablet in addition but it will have to have an hdmi or it's a no sale for me.

Oos
 

Said 48 left, added to cart, by the time I finished checkout, said can't order invalid product & it was listed as OOS

Try again. I was just able to add it to my cart.

No rear camera...even though ill probably never use it, but still...

Why would it have any trouble with video playback? Why would you think a processor with dual Cortex A8s would be better than one with dual Cortex A9s?
This has an OMAP4430, its CPU is better than the HP Touchpad's APQ8060 in every benchmark.
http://www.tomshardware.com/revie...291-4.html
The PowerVR SGX540 in the OMAP4430 is somewhat slower in some benchmarks, but faster in others, compared to the Adreno 220 in the HP Touchpad.

IMO, this is a superior tablet, 1 generation newer than the TP. I think it's thinner and lighter too. I love my Touchpad, but I'd happily trade for this if it had the dev support. I'd consider it even though it doesn't.

Nope. The Nexus 7 engineering is embarrassing for that price range (especially considering who is behind it). I mean, they couldn't even be bothered to engineer a CLIP for the battery connector. That's a sub 1 cent addition. As a result, the battery connector commonly works itself loose in shipping or with travel from the vibration and the unit will stop charging forever when it does. It's an easy fix if you know what's wrong and what to do (open it up, slide the connector back on, and put a dot of superglue on it), but the mass market will think their tablet just died.

I've fixed this problem for a number of friends. It's ridiculous that it made it out of prototype without the clip. I have no idea if the Nexus 10 fixes it, but somehow I think they cheaped out on that, too. I would never recommend a Nexus 7.

I wont say you don't have a good reason, I'm just saying too many people don't agree. The nexus is built great for what $200 gets you brand new today.

I have a tablet with A8-1.2G and it has no problem for video playback..just slow browsing...I heard A8-1.2G = A9-1.0G..if this is true, then video streaming should be very smooth.

I stand corrected. That's the last time I take a cnet review seriously. Other sources confirm the local and streaming playback is great. It's too bad it won't fill up the whole screen, but the iPad has the same quandary (the extra resolution certainly helps, though). I'd definitely buy one to play around with if it was closer to $100.

Looks like it's dead for real this time, the site brings up an error

Link is working again.

Nope. I've been trying all day. It either gives that error or it won't let you add it to your cart.

Now shows 24 left and I was able to add to cart.

Looks like Jelly Bean is avaiable for this tablet starting Dec 2012... my order has shipped out, and still waiting in the mail.

http://www.androidpolice.com/2012...-download/

Sorry, but that's the A2109, not the S2109. Completely different tablet.

Good catch. Well, maybe ice cream sandwich is good enough for basic browsing, email...etc

I received the tablet today and it looks great. I can't see any imperfections so far. It reminds me of the HP Touchpad. There are a couple small updates I've been installing but I'll most likely put Jelly Bean on it somehow. I'm liking everything about it except the proprietary charger but I can get used to it. It looks like it has GPS so that's pretty sweet.

It looks like the link you provided is for the IdeaTab A2109 with an NVIDIA Tegra 3 processor. Have you tried to install Jelly Bean? I would like to know if it works.

got the K1 .DOA... no replacements... even though they have them available..