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Vicious421 02-01-2013 10:45 PM

64GB ViewSonic 10.1" ViewPad 10pi Wi-Fi-enabled Windows 7 Pro Tablet $292, or Windows 7 Ready Tablet (no Win 7 Installed) $149.50
 
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I have been looking for the best deal on a Windows tablet and came across these guys on Viewsonic's factory store:

Viewsonic Viewpad 10pi Windows 7 Tablet - $299
http://www.viewsonic.com/us/table...-10pi.html

Viewsonic Viewpad 10pi Windows 7 Ready Tablet - $149
http://www.viewsonic.com/us/table...no-os.html

Viewsonic must be blowing these out, because the cheapest price I could find for the $299 version with Windows 7 pre-installed is $499.99 on Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/Viewsonic-V...ewpad+10pi

I was able to buy that $39.99 Windows 8 upgrade special from Microsoft before it expired yesterday and was thinking about using that to do a clean install on the $149 version of this Viewsonic 10pi. That would give me a Windows 8 tablet for under $200.

What do you think? Does anyone know of a better deal out there on a Windows tablet?

brisar 02-01-2013 10:45 PM

64GB ViewSonic 10.1" ViewPad 10pi Wi-Fi-enabled Windows 7 Pro Tablet $292, or Windows 7 Ready Tablet (no Win 7 Installed) $149.50
 
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UPDATE: Coupon code has expired.
The 10.1" ViewSonic ViewPad 10pi Wi-Fi-enabled Tablet (Win 7 Pro installed) is now $299.99 + $8 S/H

Viewsonic.com offers 64GB ViewSonic 10.1" ViewPad 10pi Wi-Fi-enabled Tablet marked down significantly. Save an additional 5% with coupon code 2012REG. Shipping is $8. Thanks Vicious421& Akarin

Price after coupon code 2012REG
Specs:
  • Intel Atom 2670 1.5GHz (Oak Trail) CPU
  • 10.1" 1280x800 IPS Display
  • 2GB DDR2
  • 64GB SSD
  • Cameras: Front 1.3MP, Back 3.2MP
  • WiFi N
  • Battery Life: up to 4 hours
  • Win 7 Pro (installed or ready)
Hands on review courtesy of Engadget


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wikipost 02-01-2013 10:45 PM

This post can and should be edited by users like you :)
 
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Hands-on:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/1...-hands-on/:

"While the ViewPad 10pi attempts to be the jack of all trades, in reality it's just one big headache."
(review of preproduction unit by cynical engadget editor. Check out real reviews by users in the thread).

Use Coupon: 2012REG for 5% off (Akarin)

SSD can be swapped.
3G can be added.
Ram & Wifi is not removable.

MORE INFORMATION COLLECTED FROM SDERS:
- PDF on how to install Win7: http://www.viewsonic.com/document...nstall.pdf
+ Read this guide carefully to get Win7 working and how to dual boot Android and Win7 - especially Step 9 (should be able to dual boot Android and Win8 too)
+ Correction: the partition to install Windows is 8, not partition 6


- Installing Win7 from USB (works with win8 too)--> http://www.microsoftstore.com/sto...zwn022yhhx
- Win7 drivers from viewsonic.com.cn. --> http://www.viewsonic.com.cn/downloads/V10pi.rar (Use the disc that came with the tablet -- these drivers will cause you a big headache and waste time unnecessarily)
- Wifi drivers for Win7/8? --> http://drivers.softpedia.com/get/...ws-7.shtml
- Forced install win7 drivers on win8 --> http://laslow.net/2012/03/14/disa...windows-8/
-"Hack" to allow built-in wifi to work in Windows 8 - http://slickdeals.net/forums/show...tcount=755
- it is possible to intstall wifi card into 3G slot and not to use hack for the built-in wifi in Windows 8. Hack disables SD card reader.
- Upgrade Half-slim sata SSD --> http://www.mydigitaldiscount.com/...m-sata-ssd
- Upgrade Android to 4.0 ICS? --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltadM2qRmoM
- User Guide --> http://www.mediafire.com/?bh1bi78c0g9sdcp
- Win 8 compatible nano wifi adapter such as FAR tenda W311M from fry's
- Most recent Chipset driver from Intel - http://downloadcenter.intel.com/D...9%09%09%09
- Most recent Video Driver from Intel - http://downloadcenter.intel.com/D...s&lang=eng
- Most recent audio driver from Realtek - http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloa...Down=false
- Video http://youtu.be/2bVBWqEtwfw

Installing Ubuntu:
- How to get Live CD to Work http://slickdeals.net/forums/show...count=1012

Installing Android Market
Follow these instructions to install Android Market on the Android 2.3 Install http://forum.xda-developers.com/s...p?t=827209
I just downloaded the G Tablet.zip on my PC. Unzip the contents and placed the folder in a USB stick. Install the APK's in the order specified in the link. Ran GMAIL to specify my account, then ran the Market. Angry birds does install and runs fine. (rianmanu)

namlook 02-02-2013 12:17 AM

One of the amazon reviews says not upgradeable to win8. Is this still accurate?

"I bought this in anticipation of Windows 8 because along with the product Amazon included the deal for the special price for Windows 8. I wanted to get the device and upgrade it to Windows 8 when it was released about a month later. WRONG!!! As of this date this device IS NOT UPGRADEABLE to Windows 8. The Marvell AVASTAR network controller device does not have a Windows 8 driver. I contacted Marvell and they have no immediate plans to upgrade the driver for Windows 8."

dfkjhasdlkjfhloiu 02-02-2013 12:24 AM

Can't find a good review, nor evidence that anyone's gotten it to run either Android 4 or Windows 8. Either of those would make the $149 version a steal. (You end up with either a dual boot win 7 with Android 4 or a cheap windows 8 tablet). I'm going to assume there's almost no development on this one though...

tennisplayer888 02-02-2013 12:38 AM

This looks too good to be true...

travfar 02-02-2013 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by namlook (Post 57311688)
One of the amazon reviews says not upgradeable to win8. Is this still accurate?

"I bought this in anticipation of Windows 8 because along with the product Amazon included the deal for the special price for Windows 8. I wanted to get the device and upgrade it to Windows 8 when it was released about a month later. WRONG!!! As of this date this device IS NOT UPGRADEABLE to Windows 8. The Marvell AVASTAR network controller device does not have a Windows 8 driver. I contacted Marvell and they have no immediate plans to upgrade the driver for Windows 8."

I thought Windows 7 drivers worked in Windows 8.

Tempting.... I have plenty of licenses of W7.... but atom.... yuck.

tennisplayer888 02-02-2013 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by travfar (Post 57311852)
I thought Windows 7 drivers worked in Windows 8.

Tempting.... I have plenty of licenses of W7.... but atom.... yuck.

Yea that is the only thing LOL, it clocks in at around 250 on the CPU benchmarks...

travfar 02-02-2013 12:45 AM

Hands on not kind.

http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/1...-hands-on/

ledorky 02-02-2013 12:46 AM

Since it's a single core atom, it seems it's a crappy Android and crappy Windows. The worst of both worlds.

tennisplayer888 02-02-2013 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ledorky (Post 57311880)
Since it's a single core atom, it seems it's a crappy Android and crappy Windows. The worst of both worlds.

Aside from the processor, this thing has the perfect of everything else that I would love at this price... screen size, resolution, memory, RAM, ports, etc.

Ray97 02-02-2013 12:51 AM

It looks really really REALLY slow, looked at the reviews on youtube... no thanks

Akarin 02-02-2013 12:54 AM

coupon code 2012REG
for 5% off

dfkjhasdlkjfhloiu 02-02-2013 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by travfar (Post 57311874)

I'd guess it was that review that sunk this tablet. It was pre-production and the reviewer just couldn't get used to the buttons on the side (rather than capacitive buttons on most android 2.x devices). I agree the atom processor is the limiting factor, but $150 for a good (not great) resolution touchscreen, 64gb SSD, a perfectly useable word processor and web browser, and the possibility of a bit of interesting development seems worthwhile to me. If anyone can find a user review please post it here.

Akarin 02-02-2013 01:04 AM

the reviews are based on the retail price at release $500+
at this price, it is a different story

tennisplayer888 02-02-2013 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akarin (Post 57311998)
the reviews are based on the retail price at release $500+
at this price, it is a different story

Also... only 4 hr battery life, which translate to 3 hrs. if you are lucky...

Anti_slick 02-02-2013 01:09 AM

There are lack of information about this tablet. That is the reason holds me back from buying this :(

namlook 02-02-2013 01:11 AM

Not sure why anyone would want to use this tablet except if it ran win 8.

alkhe4life 02-02-2013 01:12 AM

Wonder if you can pop in a faster processor.

Akarin 02-02-2013 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alkhe4life (Post 57312038)
Wonder if you can pop in a faster processor.

ofc not, even if you can you wouldn't want to.

ledorky 02-02-2013 01:19 AM

I wish someone had a video of it running Win8. Even if the network controller didn't work in Win8, you can always use a USB one.

dfkjhasdlkjfhloiu 02-02-2013 01:33 AM

I bit. It's a nice piece of hardware; hoping they'll honor the warranty if it's really bad. Going for the $149 version since I'm hoping for windows 8; if not then win 7 is cheap.

Lopportunity 02-02-2013 01:44 AM

Same specs as the Dell Latitude ST, which was $200 new some time ago. It's not worth using Windows 8 with this, the drivers are flaky at best. Almost nothing works, I had to track down drivers for the wireless card to get that working, even then it fails sometimes. The two cameras, multi-touch, and HDMI-output, all refuse to function properly. This isn't worth getting unless it's for Windows 7.

wendal 02-02-2013 01:55 AM

Bought 2, 25 minutes apart. Order number only jumped by 6. Thought that this would blow up. Just read in the Dell Latitude ST review that the processor is slower than the N270. That was the CPU in those first Atom netbooks. Oops.

namlook 02-02-2013 01:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wendal (Post 57312266)
Bought 2, 25 minutes apart. Order number only jumped by 6. Thought that this would blow up. Just read in the Dell Latitude ST review that the processor is slower than the N270. That was the CPU in those first Atom netbooks. Oops.

The hardware is worth the money but the reviews are pretty terrible and no development makes it a pass for me..

nemeziz 02-02-2013 02:07 AM

I ordered one as well, did you guys get a confirmation email yet? I got nothing.

lvlrdka22 02-02-2013 02:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by namlook (Post 57312278)
The hardware is worth the money but the reviews are pretty terrible and no development makes it a pass for me..

Really? It's older than N270, which already runs a little sluggish when I stream some videos on Arch with no desktop environment, at 1024x600, can't imagine how slow it'll crawl on Win 7.
If you can install some form of lightweight Linux distro that's touch oriented though, it might be better.

Apparently Z670 came out in mid 2011, while N270 in 2008.

namlook 02-02-2013 02:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lvlrdka22 (Post 57312320)
Really? It's older than N270, which already runs a little sluggish when I stream some videos on Arch with no desktop environment, at 1024x600, can't imagine how slow it'll crawl on Win 7.
If you can install some form of lightweight Linux distro that's touch oriented though, it might be better.

It's got an ssd so win 7 shouldn't be that slow.

wendal 02-02-2013 02:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nemeziz (Post 57312316)
I ordered one as well, did you guys get a confirmation email yet? I got nothing.

Got my confirmation immediately upon ordering both. I saved my info with a password on the first order and the second order used my saved address info.

lvlrdka22 02-02-2013 02:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by namlook (Post 57312334)
It's got an ssd so win 7 shouldn't be that slow.

SSD can only help with so much though, it certainly won't help with slideshows ;).

According to
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Inte...115.0.html
it is indeed slower than the N270.

soarwitheagles 02-02-2013 02:23 AM

I was thinking to pick a couple of these up as I have several unused Windows 7 keys laying around...but then, these two statements in the review made me run quickly in the opposite direction!

The Android 2.3 environment is nearly unusable and often freezes completely.

While the ViewPad 10pi attempts to be the jack of all trades, in reality it's just one big headache.

Run! Run! Run! Oh, in the opposite direction!

PS Like Gandolf said, "Fly you fools!"

Soar

nemeziz 02-02-2013 02:28 AM

I don't get it, I filled out all my info again and still no email. Maybe this is god's way of telling me to not waste my money on this. Oh well we shall see I guess.

GnatGoSplat 02-02-2013 03:04 AM

Sounds like a fun toy, but I don't know what I would do with it. For it to be practical as a tablet, it'd need to run Windows 8. There will NEVER be Windows 8 drivers for the GMA600.
http://communities.intel.com/thread/29943
The Windows 7 drivers will work, not sure if there needs to be a lot of tweaking to get other drivers working or not.

I couldn't find any videos of this tablet running Windows 8. However, I did find a few videos of other Z670 tablets running it. Performance should be similar.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x87LmiOj5J0
http://youtu.be/sUmcyWNDGiY

It can't play 720p videos, not in Windows 8 anyway. Probably playing any HD video is out of the question. Just a guess, but based on video performance, I'd say games won't be great on it either.
Two people who got the Dell ST last year weren't happy with it.
http://slickdeals.net/f/5563870-D...599?page=3 (last 2 posts)

Maybe it'd be better just to stick to Android for tablets. I don't know, I'm definitely itching for a new toy to play with. I'll sleep on it and see if it's still in stock when I get up at noon tomorrow.

atari 02-02-2013 03:12 AM

Just ordered 2.

ViewPad 10pi V10PI_1BDFDUS6_03 2 $298.00
Subtotal $298.00
Shipping & Handling $11.80
Discount (2012REG) -$14.90
Recycle Fee $0.00
Grand Total $294.90

LuCaniTy 02-02-2013 03:17 AM

bought one, hope fully someone over at xda can turn this into 64GB jelly bean tablet

AGA7d 02-02-2013 03:17 AM

is it easy to upgrade to jellybean?

jack_d12 02-02-2013 03:22 AM

Anyone got free shipping code?

rockydbull 02-02-2013 03:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AGA7d (Post 57312604)
is it easy to upgrade to jellybean?

Highly unlikely. Almost all roms come from a base operating system from the manufacturer. Thus if the manufacturer has only released 2.3 there is little chance there will be roms higher than that. The problem is finding drivers. There are of course exceptions like the htc inspire 4g which got ics because the htc one v is practically a hardware clone and had ics so developers ported the drivers.

atari 02-02-2013 03:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jack_d12 (Post 57312628)
Anyone got free shipping code?

I looked and couldn't find one. Best I could do was "2012REG" for 5% off, which covered shipping and then some.

1stwinter 02-02-2013 03:36 AM

anyone know when this was released initially? if we know the date, maybe i can have an idea of max power and battery performance from it. thx.

rockydbull 02-02-2013 03:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GnatGoSplat (Post 57312540)
Sounds like a fun toy, but I don't know what I would do with it. For it to be practical as a tablet, it'd need to run Windows 8. There will NEVER be Windows 8 drivers for the GMA600.
http://communities.intel.com/thread/29943
The Windows 7 drivers will work, not sure if there needs to be a lot of tweaking to get other drivers working or not.

I couldn't find any videos of this tablet running Windows 8. However, I did find a few videos of other Z670 tablets running it. Performance should be similar.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x87LmiOj5J0
http://youtu.be/sUmcyWNDGiY

It can't play 720p videos, not in Windows 8 anyway. Probably playing any HD video is out of the question. Just a guess, but based on video performance, I'd say games won't be great on it either.
Two people who got the Dell ST last year weren't happy with it.
http://slickdeals.net/f/5563870-D...599?page=3 (last 2 posts)

Maybe it'd be better just to stick to Android for tablets. I don't know, I'm definitely itching for a new toy to play with. I'll sleep on it and see if it's still in stock when I get up at noon tomorrow.

I believe in the end your best bet is to stick with android for tablets. Windows 7 is a great operating system but much more suited to mouse and keyboard and 2.3 will seem prehistoric.

rockydbull 02-02-2013 03:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1stwinter (Post 57312674)
anyone know when this was released initially? if we know the date, maybe i can have an idea of max power and battery performance from it. thx.

Well I can tell you that when the manufacturer says max 4 hours of battery life the battery life is not going to be great. Performance should be very similar to all atom single cores because the architecture has not changed much since the introduction. In my experience a single core atom is pretty rough especially without a true gpu like the ion

atari 02-02-2013 03:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vicious421 (Post 57310918)

Viewsonic must be blowing these out, because the cheapest price I could find for the $299 version with Windows 7 pre-installed is $499.99 on Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/Viewsonic-V...ewpad+10pi

By the way OP, this one on Amazon is not the same model. My order confirmation email has the model number V10PI_1BDFDUS6_03.

Pec 02-02-2013 04:20 AM

Who builds a tablet with 2 cameras and no microphone? That's a huge drawback.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamesbodden (Post 57312676)
I believe in the end your best bet is to stick with android for tablets. Windows 7 is a great operating system but much more suited to mouse and keyboard and 2.3 will seem prehistoric.

Windows 7 can function very well as a tablet OS, and has so for years now. Companies like Panasonic, Lenovo, and Fujitsu have written software that greatly enhances multi-touch and digitized pen use on their business and rugged tablets. I doubt we'll find similar quality software available from viewsonic.

Oh.Y.Not 02-02-2013 04:20 AM

Urgh, why am I tempted by this? With all the reviews and logical reasons telling me to back away, the tinkerer in me is doing happy dance about the potentials...


Fine, challenge accepted!

quazy 02-02-2013 04:41 AM

If this had a active digitizer i would be in for one.

cybernevets 02-02-2013 05:02 AM

I will admit that the Windows 7 installation instructions (link on the Viewsonic page for the $149 model without a Windows OS) are well written.

Regarding installing the upgrade version of Windows 8 on a drive without another version of Windows...my one experience is that it will install but will not automatically activate. I installed the Win8 Pro upgrade version onto a new/bare SSD on my desktop after removing the problematic hard drive running Windows 7. Win 8 installed but would not activate. It took a phone call to Microsoft support to get a special number code to get it to activate. The rep was helpful and polite. I can't recall if he asked for my Windows 7 key.

cybernevets 02-02-2013 05:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tshwashere (Post 57312812)
Urgh, why am I tempted by this? With all the reviews and logical reasons telling me to back away, the tinkerer in me is doing happy dance about the potentials...


Fine, challenge accepted!

+1 me too, even though I have more than enough toys and know that this will result in hours of pain, late nights of lost sleep and ultimately a struggle to finally flip on Craigslist. In for one!

ragingazn628 02-02-2013 05:18 AM

how come shipping isn't free for me

The_Linux_Crew 02-02-2013 05:19 AM

http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/1...-hands-on/

Quote:

The ViewSonic ViewPad 10pi was announced here at CES, and according to the company, it'll be in retail stores later this month. This is a scary proposition. Sadly, our time with the tablet was filled with glitches and frustration -- as is, this dual-booter seems entirely unfit for the market. The Android 2.3 environment is nearly unusable and often freezes completely. ...we had decent expectations for performance within Windows. Unfortunately, even web browsing was generally unsatisfying. Pinch-to-zoom and scrolling were both rather choppy, and -- as much as this comment pains us -- we longed to return to Android. ...While the ViewPad 10pi attempts to be the jack of all trades, in reality it's just one big headache.

whirligig 02-02-2013 05:22 AM

I want to, but all logic is telling me no. Specs/reviews seem scary... Passing. If Engadget is saying run... I'm going to listen.

Good luck on those who do buy it!

dagadu 02-02-2013 05:23 AM

Hmmm.. Should I waste $170 for junk like this? It'll probably sit out of my room since i have ipad and nexus 7. Or should i save money to get surface tablet or win8 tablet??

TheLounge 02-02-2013 05:23 AM

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_l...40+1.50GHz

meh, looks like my pc in 2002/2003 would outperform this most/all of the time

The_Linux_Crew 02-02-2013 05:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dagadu (Post 57313140)
Hmmm.. Should I waste $170 for junk like this? It'll probably sit out of my room since i have ipad and nexus 7. Or should i save money to get surface tablet or win8 tablet??

A quote from Thomas Jefferson

Quote:

Never buy what you don't want because it is cheap. It will be dear to you.

MillaTyme 02-02-2013 05:27 AM

Pass. Would rather pay an extra $180 and get an iPad Mini.

alcopaulic 02-02-2013 05:28 AM

Can this be used for remote access? I need to access my HTPC from time to time, and this would be a great way to use this tablet if remote access is accessible on this.

ragingazn628 02-02-2013 05:31 AM

how do you get free shipping?

The_Linux_Crew 02-02-2013 05:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MillaTyme (Post 57313176)
Pass. Would rather pay an extra $180 and get an iPad Mini.

Or even if you don't want to pay double, there are plenty of better tablets for around this price.

dagadu 02-02-2013 05:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alcopaulic (Post 57313184)
Can this be used for remote access? I need to access my HTPC from time to time, and this would be a great way to use this tablet if remote access is accessible on this.

You can use any tablets to remote access any pc with teamviewer or splashtop.
Edit: due to specs given, you can expect lagging when doing remote access.

atari 02-02-2013 05:37 AM

How is shipping free?

MichaelIv 02-02-2013 05:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alcopaulic (Post 57313184)
Can this be used for remote access? I need to access my HTPC from time to time, and this would be a great way to use this tablet if remote access is accessible on this.

If you're referring to remote desktop yes, it will work.

ctsinc 02-02-2013 05:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by namlook (Post 57311688)
One of the amazon reviews says not upgradeable to win8. Is this still accurate?

"I bought this in anticipation of Windows 8 because along with the product Amazon included the deal for the special price for Windows 8. I wanted to get the device and upgrade it to Windows 8 when it was released about a month later. WRONG!!! As of this date this device IS NOT UPGRADEABLE to Windows 8. The Marvell AVASTAR network controller device does not have a Windows 8 driver. I contacted Marvell and they have no immediate plans to upgrade the driver for Windows 8."

Windows 8 is just a prettied up version of Windows 7. You can use the Windows 7 driver for Windows 8. Are you familiar with force installing a driver?

The_Linux_Crew 02-02-2013 05:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tennisplayer888 (Post 57311844)
This looks too good to be true...

I just feel sorry for the eight people who clicked "I bought this."

harshan9 02-02-2013 05:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Linux_Crew (Post 57313308)
I just feel sorry for the eight people who clicked "I bought this."


I bought it and want to cancel. They are closed today. Will have to wait until Monday:(

Chris28House 02-02-2013 05:45 AM

Use Coupon: 2012REG for 5% off

cybernevets 02-02-2013 05:47 AM

For those that are asking, there does not appear to be free shipping, but a discount code 2012REG for 5% off which covers most of the shipping cost.

MOkoFOko 02-02-2013 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris28House (Post 57313330)
Use Coupon: 2012REG for 5% off

Click the purchase button to buy it.

dagadu 02-02-2013 05:51 AM

4 hours life on battery scares me. It's even worse than any chinese knockoff tablet. Wait, did they time it with wifi off, low dim display, and standby mode?? So, when you actually using the tablet, it may last up to 2 hours?
I also notice that NEITHER REVIEW ON VIEWSONIC WEBSITE ACTUALLY PLAY THE TABLET ITSELF. They just hold the tablet and play the power point slide off the screen. Watch the hands on review on engadget, i just wondered why they made such tablet.

Regulus 02-02-2013 05:53 AM

I have a couple extra windows 7 licenses I could use for something like this...but based on the reviews, I am staying away from this nightmare!!!! (I would bite at about $90, though :)).

yozh 02-02-2013 05:56 AM

OMG SO TEMPTED, but must resist this is truly a crappy go no where device !

cybernevets 02-02-2013 05:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dagadu (Post 57313140)
Hmmm.. Should I waste $170 for junk like this? It'll probably sit out of my room since i have ipad and nexus 7. Or should i save money to get surface tablet or win8 tablet??

I have a Nexus 7, Asus VivoTab RT TF600T, Yoga 11 and sold my iPad3. It's not perfect, but I am enjoying Windows RT. Microsoft got the interface navigational bits right, once you get used to them. I am really enjoying the Yoga 11, which is on sale at Amazon but still expensive. I would not keep the Yoga as my only "tablet" as its too big for pure tablet use. I use my Nexus 7 for that. I was able to get the VivoTab for $400 with the keyboard dock, but will likely not keep it.

kalinrs 02-02-2013 06:03 AM

I really don't see why are you guys complaining. For $149 you get a fanless system with 64GB SSD, 2GB Ram and 1280x800 IPS.

Read the reviews on tablets with the same specs but different brands - just about everybody can play AVI files with VLC as well as smooth flash videos. Yes, it might not be a $600 W8 tablet, but come on. Look at the Fujitsu STYLISTIC Q550 for example.

I am sure that if you tweak your W7 well enough, it will work pretty good.

To me, this is even better than the TouchPad firesale. I am tempted to get another one.

40Glock 02-02-2013 06:09 AM

I was excited to see this roll across my twitter feed and was worries when I got to work that it would be sold out. After watching the engadget video, I can see why it isn't...that thing is SLLLOOOOOWWWW. I could have tolerated SOME lag because of the price but that is unforgivable...people, seriously. Unless this tablet is for a 2 year old to use as a frisbee in the pool...don't waste your money.

teetee1 02-02-2013 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vicious421 (Post 57310918)
I was able to buy that $39.99 Windows 8 upgrade special from Microsoft before it expired yesterday and was thinking about using that to do a clean install on the $149 version of this Viewsonic 10pi. That would give me a Windows 8 tablet for under $200.

What do you think? Does anyone know of a better deal out there on a Windows tablet?

I think with atom and 2gb ram (non-upgradable?) win8 will be the only thing it is capable to run. I wonder when it will be fully supported by win8 (amazon review showed the network card wasn't supported by win8 - perhaps win7 driver will do?)

Take a look at the cpu passmark chart [cpubenchmark.net] and find where atom Z670 is located....even P-III and VIA C7 are both more powerful. Imagine using P-III or C7 to run today's web browsers....and this is slower than that.

There is still a hardware gap between x86/64 and ARM-based all-in-one chips. This is on sale for just that reason - it gives the user ability to run x86 software with unbearable slow speed unless you have lightweight linux on it - might as well get a used but more powerful netbook with win7 installed for less.

biggiep 02-02-2013 06:18 AM

Lol between this and the gTablet, Viewsonic made some of the lamest tablet out there.

RAGEo2 02-02-2013 06:21 AM

Agreed, this ATOM CPU is a joke! Windows will use all resource that is available in the system and the ATOM can't handle it. I've loaded Linux and even a Android OS on my old netbook and it still ran like crap but Windows 8 seemed to run the best.

Initial_G 02-02-2013 06:21 AM

Looks good on paper and pricing (w/o Win 7) but the lack of any real reviews is a concern.

I like the dual boot feature.

But if its a slow as my niece's 2 year old netbook (just without a keyboard) I think I'll pass.

agentkhiem 02-02-2013 06:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nemeziz (Post 57312420)
I don't get it, I filled out all my info again and still no email. Maybe this is god's way of telling me to not waste my money on this. Oh well we shall see I guess.

Didn't he say run?

bocks79 02-02-2013 06:30 AM

For this price it's worth trying. Got a W8 license to use. Been wanting to try Win 8 on a touch device. For $149 it's not much of a gamble!

Bagira 02-02-2013 06:31 AM

I am in 4 1.
I wanna play with this thing.

pongoboy 02-02-2013 06:34 AM

Can anyone say what would be a good windows 7 based 10" tablet that is stable and some what fast out of the box without having to tweek it?

jon33333 02-02-2013 06:36 AM

why they charge tax??? i am in Oregon.

spoonsslick 02-02-2013 06:40 AM

*sigh*.... I guess i'm in for one, despite all the bad reviews, poor specs, and Windows 8 driver issue.

I just hope there will be an android ROM for this that runs jellybean sometime soon and that driver for windows 8.

Bagira 02-02-2013 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pongoboy (Post 57313826)
Can anyone say what would be a good windows 7 based 10" tablet that is stable and some what fast out of the box without having to tweek it?

Highly doubt this.
But if u r willing to do some tweaking, u can have a usable tablet or so I hope.

topeak 02-02-2013 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jon33333 (Post 57313868)
why they charge tax??? i am in Oregon.

same here, oregon 2

Bagira 02-02-2013 06:50 AM

I am pretty sure it has msata SSD inside.

cconklin1 02-02-2013 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bagira (Post 57314004)
I am pretty sure it has msata SSD inside.

ALMOST worth buying it to rip it out..if the tablet ends up sucking..

Vinny2006 02-02-2013 06:55 AM

Must be dead. Clicked on Buy it now and nothing happens.

makiev 02-02-2013 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vinny2006 (Post 57314054)
Must be dead. Clicked on Buy it now and nothing happens.

Try clicking from this page, worked for me:


http://www.viewsonic.com/us/table...based.html

The_Linux_Crew 02-02-2013 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spoonsslick (Post 57313898)
*sigh*.... I guess i'm in for one, despite all the bad reviews, poor specs, and Windows 8 driver issue.

I just hope there will be an android ROM for this that runs jellybean sometime soon and that driver for windows 8.


There is absolutely no custom development for this device. So you are stuck with stock.

Bagira 02-02-2013 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cconklin1 (Post 57314020)
ALMOST worth buying it to rip it out..if the tablet ends up sucking..

That's what I thought too..:)

But I hope I can tweak it and make a usable device out of it.

JL889 02-02-2013 07:03 AM

Sure i'll try it out

aravindgenius 02-02-2013 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JL889 (Post 57314136)
Sure i'll try it out

Anyways to get free shipping. Lowest shipping is $8.

Vinny2006 02-02-2013 07:12 AM

A friend of mine has the Asus EP121 and he uses a wireless KB and Mouse with Windows 7. I love it but it's too expensive. I am hoping this thing is 1/2 as good. I am willing to take a chance. Worst case I'll use my Amex 90 day return policy.

leomon 02-02-2013 07:14 AM

I had viewsonic G-tablet. That are dual core 1GHz, this is atom 1.5GHz

64 SSD is attractive. But This seems G-tablet for windows.

it is bulky and heavy compare today's technology.

I would say at least like ipad 2 size is acceptable to be tablet. I can't hold my g-tablet more than 15 minutes..

This seems upgrade version of G-tablet but not better

IntoBeing 02-02-2013 07:15 AM

So I'm assuming this is sold out? Can't get site to load.

EDIT: Nope finally got it to load and I completely checkout, hopefully it gets shipped.

Tekerugburn 02-02-2013 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leomon (Post 57314286)
I had viewsonic G-tablet. That are dual core 1GHz, this is atom 1.5GHz

64 SSD is attractive. But This seems G-tablet for windows.

it is bulky and heavy compare today's technology.

I would say at least like ipad 2 size is acceptable to be tablet. I can't hold my g-tablet more than 15 minutes..

This seems upgrade version of G-tablet but not better

ipad 2/3/4 are all basically the same size

leomon 02-02-2013 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tekerugburn (Post 57314334)
ipad 2/3/4 are all basically the same size

Yes, so, Ipad 2 size would be good...

Bagira 02-02-2013 07:21 AM

BTW, this thing has a GPS too. Not bad for 10" GPS screen if nothing else.
Can u say: "CarPC"?

cconklin1 02-02-2013 07:24 AM

Bought two. $8.80 shipping for both

AntonioV 02-02-2013 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by travfar (Post 57311852)
I thought Windows 7 drivers worked in Windows 8.

Tempting.... I have plenty of licenses of W7.... but atom.... yuck.

Some of the drivers have yet to be converted over to W7, right now running a pirate version cause all these activators dont work.

harshan9 02-02-2013 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bagira (Post 57314390)
BTW, this thing has a GPS too. Not bad for 10" GPS screen if nothing else.


Any idea how GPS works. With AT&T free WiFi maybe?

jdixon 02-02-2013 07:30 AM

G-tab was my first tablet - sluggish performance, attrocious viewing angle, so-so touch sensitivity, and bulky. This deal is okay for those who want curious toy, but not those who _really_ want a useful tablet. The Win 7 dual boot is attractive, but now that I can use Android app + Win 8 Pro RDS, a dual booting Win 7 that shuts out android seems more a liability than a benefit.

To sum: imho, better value-for-$ with today's tablet quality + robust android apps market.

UncleRunkle 02-02-2013 07:32 AM

I was also excited at the price, but IMO - heed others' warnings. Stay away, otherwise you'll regret it later.

WontaekC 02-02-2013 07:35 AM

wtf is viewsonic?

Tekerugburn 02-02-2013 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WontaekC (Post 57314572)
wtf is viewsonic?

a reputable company that's made great monitors

GimmeTwo 02-02-2013 07:39 AM

Good price for a windows 7 slate
 
This is a good price if you have a copy of Windows 7 to install. I do not recommend to buy at any price if your intention is exclusively to install Windows 8 after knowing that the drivers do not work.

I say this as a proud owner of a slate with a long history of successful (Iconia W500) and unsuccessful (Lattitude ST) upgrades to Windows 8. I am currently running the Lattitude with its native Windows 7, and it is just fine for me, but some may find it less useful.

Bottom line: If you keep your expectations in check, a barebones slate is a cool project to have fun with.

SamuelVictor 02-02-2013 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by travfar (Post 57311852)
I thought Windows 7 drivers worked in Windows 8.

Tempting.... I have plenty of licenses of W7.... but atom.... yuck.

ARe you able to send me a liscnese of windows 7 i want to use it for my macbook air i just got to run parellls and windows is trying to charge me a fortune .... samuel.a.victor@gmail.com

mrdavidf 02-02-2013 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akarin (Post 57311998)
the reviews are based on the retail price at release $500+
at this price, it is a different story

Quote:

Originally Posted by Engadget
The Android 2.3 environment is nearly unusable and often freezes completely.

Has nothing to do with the price, it's the same story :lol:

snoobzilla 02-02-2013 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alcopaulic (Post 57313184)
Can this be used for remote access? I need to access my HTPC from time to time, and this would be a great way to use this tablet if remote access is accessible on this.

Any tablet can run something like teamviewer. It is a little clunky to interact with a mouse/kb based OS with a touchscreen tablet, but I use it on my phone and android tablet to start downloads or send myself stuff I forgot from my windows 7 desktop.

I will pass on this thing as it doesn't have a lot more power than my motorola triumph other than more ram. Better off with a nexus 7 or something with more processor.

supermanrocks 02-02-2013 07:47 AM

Passing, proc needs to be a 1.5ghz DUAL CORE!!!

natehawkv8 02-02-2013 07:47 AM

Does the Win7 version run 32 or 64-bit Windows?

Beradon 02-02-2013 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by natehawkv8 (Post 57314782)
Does the Win7 version run 32 or 64-bit Windows?

This processor is 32bit ONLY, you cannot load 64 bit Windows on this device in any form.

Bagira 02-02-2013 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harshan9 (Post 57314476)
Any idea how GPS works. With AT&T free WiFi maybe?

Has nothing to do w/WiFi.

For Android there are several good offline apps for GPS - Copilot, Sygic, etc.

For Windows I am unsure.

Bagira 02-02-2013 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by supermanrocks (Post 57314776)
Passing, proc needs to be a 1.5ghz DUAL CORE!!!

I am sure i7 would be even better, LOL.

Overall, it seems like a perfect car pc for me - inexpensive, GPS, 10" screen, capable of playing some mp3 and maybe even some video files, LOL. Perfect travel companion.

seanleeforever 02-02-2013 07:55 AM

if the 1,024x600 screen is the same on used on my gtablet, i can safely not recommand this device to anyone at the MSRP. that said, 150 dollar is half of what i paid of my gtablet 2 years ago and with much better internals. so it is a hard choice.

atari 02-02-2013 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seanleeforever (Post 57314872)
if the 1,024x600 screen is the same on used on my gtablet, i can safely not recommand this device to anyone at the MSRP. that said, 150 dollar is half of what i paid of my gtablet 2 years ago and with much better internals. so it is a hard choice.

it's 1280x800

topeak 02-02-2013 07:57 AM

order status pending?

Bagira 02-02-2013 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by topeak (Post 57314906)
order status pending?

I really hope they ship. Now I know why I bought this :)

Corrosive 02-02-2013 08:04 AM

slickdeal theory has crashed the site.... I have been trying to load it for 10 minutes.

Beradon 02-02-2013 08:12 AM

In for 1... Honestly the HP Slate 2 and the Dell Latitude ST have the same hardware and better reviews. My guess is the reviews are partially the implementation. I'm going to get it, toss windows on it and use it to watch youtube and stuff. If that's all it does, that's good enough for me... its all I use my android tablet for anyways.

sklar 02-02-2013 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GnatGoSplat (Post 57312540)
There will NEVER be Windows 8 drivers for the GMA600.
http://communities.intel.com/thread/29943

In actually reading the thread, that statement wasn't ever made. Some random low level Intel guy responded that there WERE NO PLANS AT THIS TIME FOR INTEL TO MAKE A WIN8 DRIVER.

Besides the fact that the intel guy making the comment likely has about a 1% idea of what overall plans are for driver development, it also notes later in the thread that powervr provides reference drivers to all involved, including intel.

So its likely that there IS a driver already, but its probably mired in between powervr (who wouldn't likely release it directly to end users) and the systems integrators. One guy postulated that Apple has some sort of intellectual property around the powervr drivers, and that was confirmed by a second guy, but they are just two random guys on the internet.

All that having been said, this is a decent tablet with a weak cpu. At this price point, you could do pretty well with an android tablet with dual cores that'd be a lot more responsive.

Buyer for this A) requires a windows tablet for some reason, B) only has $150, C) has a windows 7 license, D) isn't going to do much in the way of graphics or video since the current gma600 driver has little hardware acceleration and the atom can't do it, and E) they like doing all the work to make the tablet operate correctly unless you buy the $300 model. At which point you could own any of a half dozen quad core android tabs or an ipad 2.

Corrosive 02-02-2013 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beradon (Post 57315088)
In for 1... Honestly the HP Slate 2 and the Dell Latitude ST have the same hardware and better reviews. My guess is the reviews are partially the implementation. I'm going to get it, toss windows on it and use it to watch youtube and stuff. If that's all it does, that's good enough for me... its all I use my android tablet for anyways.

Be warned... I had a dell ST and it could not run youtube at anything above 480

Beradon 02-02-2013 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corrosive (Post 57315112)
Be warned... I had a dell ST and it could not run youtube at anything above 480

On a 10" 800p screen, 480 is plenty (more than half the real estate). On a 1080p screen, 480 is tiny.

WontaekC 02-02-2013 08:21 AM

did anyone got 2012REG to work on their orders?

CyberGuy 02-02-2013 08:22 AM

It says "in stock", but where is the "add to cart" button?

araczynski 02-02-2013 08:23 AM

If you ask me, you should cut your losses at the original $40 you spent on win8 upgrade. Don't dig your hole deeper by wasting another $150 on top in hopes of salvaging the initial $40.

qqluck 02-02-2013 08:24 AM

it's an outdated and failed product.

Corrosive 02-02-2013 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberGuy (Post 57315212)
It says "in stock", but where is the "add to cart" button?

I am having the same issue

Corrosive 02-02-2013 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corrosive (Post 57315252)
I am having the same issue

Gotta make an account and log in to buy ------------- EDIT.... I click buy now and nothing happens... Dead?

Ignatz 02-02-2013 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberGuy (Post 57315212)
It says "in stock", but where is the "add to cart" button?

Reload the page and it "buy now".

Bagira 02-02-2013 08:43 AM

To all non-believers: I've been running Windows 7 and Windows 8 on my n270-based Asus EEE netbook, and I find the performance quite tolerable.

cd85233 02-02-2013 08:44 AM

I've reloaded a lot of times, and no joy. Anyone having any luck? Or are we destroying their site?

dagadu 02-02-2013 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bagira (Post 57314862)
I am sure i7 would be even better, LOL.

Overall, it seems like a perfect car pc for me - inexpensive, GPS, 10" screen, capable of playing some mp3 and maybe even some video files, LOL. Perfect travel companion.

Would you buy 10" unstable GPS for over $150?
So, does it sound right when you can purchase other more reliable knock off chinese tablet with GPS for less than that?

Cyrix2k 02-02-2013 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oemleria (Post 57311740)
Can't find a good review, nor evidence that anyone's gotten it to run either Android 4 or Windows 8. Either of those would make the $149 version a steal. (You end up with either a dual boot win 7 with Android 4 or a cheap windows 8 tablet). I'm going to assume there's almost no development on this one though...

no android? That's a deal breaker. I want a cheap android tablet w/ GPS to use as a datalogger in my car.

scrid2000 02-02-2013 08:50 AM

Gonna get this and install Ubuntu on it !

endlesscash 02-02-2013 08:52 AM

why would someone want this even for $20

bobbutts 02-02-2013 08:52 AM

Shipping to NH was $10.91 for the cheapest option.

Subtotal $149.00
Shipping & Handling $10.91
Discount (2012REG) -$7.45
Recycle Fee $0.00
Grand Total $152.46

Bagira 02-02-2013 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dagadu (Post 57315540)
Would you buy 10" unstable GPS for over $150?
So, does it sound right when you can purchase other more reliable knock off chinese tablet with GPS for less than that?

Who says it is unstable?
It is not just GPS, FYI, it is a real Windoz machine.
Powerful, not, usable, yes.

cd85233 02-02-2013 08:53 AM

I really don't see why windows 8 wouldn't be installable on this. Unless there is a processor incompatibility. I want to buy this, but the freaken button won't work!

Virbla 02-02-2013 08:54 AM

The website is very slow

JiNaMoN 02-02-2013 08:55 AM

i want to get this for development reasons but...the single core n270 is meh....but i could get over that...but then that battery life is probably w/o wifi on, with ultra dim settings, running nothing, and getting 4 hours, so most likely i'd get 2 hours while using the tablet. so basically 150$ for 64 gb ssd and 2 gb ddr2 ram and the screen. if only it had a dual core i would probably get it.

*moves on, sad :(*

bobbutts 02-02-2013 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cd85233 (Post 57315674)
I really don't see why windows 8 wouldn't be installable on this. Unless there is a processor incompatibility. I want to buy this, but the freaken button won't work!

Someone mentioned the network drivers were not available for Win 8
I would suspect the drivers for Windows 7 would work, but that's a guess. At worst a dongle could be added for wireless.

travfar 02-02-2013 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harshan9 (Post 57314476)
Any idea how GPS works. With AT&T free WiFi maybe?

Why would you need WiFi for GPS?

DrPants 02-02-2013 09:01 AM

might be good for small businesses as POS or a small digital sign.

cd85233 02-02-2013 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbutts (Post 57315730)
Someone mentioned the network drivers were not available for Win 8
I would suspect the drivers for Windows 7 would work, but that's a guess. At worst a dongle could be added for wireless.

Hmm, from my experience anything working on 7 works naively on 8. If the driver is available then it shouldn't be an issue. I'll install 8 as soon as I get it. This might be a good time for me to get into the ROM building scene to get a custom Android Rom on this.

If Windows 8 and JellyBean worked on this, it would be the slickest deal since the HP touchpad!

deymayor 02-02-2013 09:02 AM

how this outdted failure of a product got so many thumbs up, i'll never understand. the lenovo tablet for $160 is probably 10x better than this.

cd85233 02-02-2013 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbutts (Post 57315730)
Someone mentioned the network drivers were not available for Win 8
I would suspect the drivers for Windows 7 would work, but that's a guess. At worst a dongle could be added for wireless.

Quote:

Originally Posted by deymayor (Post 57315818)
how this outdted failure of a product got so many thumbs up, i'll never understand. the lenovo tablet for $160 is probably 10x better than this.

If you're talking about the S2109, this is probably getting more ups because of the windows capability.

armor14127 02-02-2013 09:06 AM

Why all the thumbs up? This thing is dead in the water.

Beradon 02-02-2013 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cd85233 (Post 57315674)
I really don't see why windows 8 wouldn't be installable on this. Unless there is a processor incompatibility. I want to buy this, but the freaken button won't work!

I had to check out in IE, the button wouldnt work in Chrome

scrid2000 02-02-2013 09:08 AM

Oos?...

crazyglue 02-02-2013 09:11 AM

I suppose I will take the plunge - in 4-1 and here is another website that did a review that wasn't to bad.

http://www.crn.com/reviews/mobili...ndroid.htm

You could always put on a WIN7 Lite version with minimal services and programs and it should make this a better unit.

cd85233 02-02-2013 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beradon (Post 57315926)
I had to check out in IE, the button wouldnt work in Chrome

It seems like they fixed it in the last 10 minutes. I got to order one. For $170ish I'm willing to try it abuse it and if all else fails, just sell it on Ebay. Market will probably still let me sell it for enough to atleast break even. I have plenty of windows 8 and 7 keys lying around to get this running. SO EXCITED!

travfar 02-02-2013 09:11 AM

"This product is currently out of stock."

And it's done, well until they figure out that the ones preloaded with W7 won't sell and unload windows and restock.

DominickR 02-02-2013 09:12 AM

This or Kocaso M1062 for 139?

travfar 02-02-2013 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cd85233 (Post 57315978)
It seems like they fixed it in the last 10 minutes. I got to order one. For $170ish I'm willing to try it abuse it and if all else fails, just sell it on Ebay. Market will probably still let me sell it for enough to atleast break even. I have plenty of windows 8 and 7 keys lying around to get this running. SO EXCITED!

There wasn't a fix, just a slow website. Even under IE, the buy button would fade in and out of existance.

cd85233 02-02-2013 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DominickR (Post 57316008)
This or Kocaso M1062 for 139?

If you want something running smoother out-of-the-box the other one is better. For people that like the adventure of making it work, like me, this one has some good prospects.

Quote:

Originally Posted by travfar (Post 57316070)
There wasn't a fix, just a slow website. Even under IE, the buy button would fade in and out of existance.

That makes sense, either way I hope I got one. Seemed to get one just as they were running out.

jacobpark 02-02-2013 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harshan9 (Post 57313328)
I bought it and want to cancel. They are closed today. Will have to wait until Monday:(

Bought and then wanted to cancel AFTER reading the reviews... man, the idiot in me roars up sometimes. It seemed too good to be true, and a quick search revealed very few results, so I bought... and then checked slickdeals and somehow found a few more reviews (using almost exactly the same search parameters...).

It's funny how they put this sale up on Saturday (the days their offices close), so that people will have to wait until Monday before they can cancel... and they might conveniently say "oh, it shipped already".

Conspiracy? Maybe in a world where everyone is nice. But reality check... there are many in this world who are out to mess with you and are very good at it.

Bagira 02-02-2013 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deymayor (Post 57315818)
how this outdted failure of a product got so many thumbs up, i'll never understand. the lenovo tablet for $160 is probably 10x better than this.

Truth, but can Lenovo tab run Windoz?

Beradon 02-02-2013 09:20 AM

BTW if someone bought the version with Windows 7 on it, please find the swype install and host it somewhere for me... I'd be very appreciative.

Anti_slick 02-02-2013 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LuCaniTy (Post 57312598)
bought one, hope fully someone over at xda can turn this into 64GB jelly bean tablet

I don't think you can upgrade this tablet to android 4.0 :bounce::bounce:
I do researched for hours and could not find one that prove this thing can upgrade. Gonna be so disapointed hahaha. Go to youtube watch those people use the tablet it runs fking slow. Lack information and review about this tablet that is the reason hold me back from buying this :( I am not gonna risk my own money :wave:

Bagira 02-02-2013 09:22 AM

Hey, I found my old DVD w/iguidance for Windows, will work like a charm on this tablet :)
Haters, go away, nothing to see here...

cd85233 02-02-2013 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HoangP (Post 57316172)
I don't think you can upgrade this tablet to android 4.0 :bounce::bounce:
I do researched for hours and could not find one that prove this thing can upgrade. Gonna be so disapointed hahaha. Go to youtube watch those people use the tablet it runs fking slow. Lack information and review about this tablet that is the reason hold me back from buying this :( I am not gonna risk my own money :wave:

Not sure how strong the hardware will be, but I might try running Android from windows, If I really feel the need to run Android.

Anti_slick 02-02-2013 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jacobpark (Post 57316136)
Bought and then wanted to cancel AFTER reading the reviews... man, the idiot in me roars up sometimes. It seemed too good to be true, and a quick search revealed very few results, so I bought... and then checked slickdeals and somehow found a few more reviews (using almost exactly the same search parameters...).

It's funny how they put this sale up on Saturday (the days their offices close), so that people will have to wait until Monday before they can cancel... and they might conveniently say "oh, it shipped already".

Conspiracy? Maybe in a world where everyone is nice. But reality check... there are many in this world who are out to mess with you and are very good at it.

That is true I stay til 1pm to research this tablet. spending 1 hour to find something good about this thing but could not find one. And there are so lack information about this tablet, very few review and all of the review pretty much just express bad :(

fymfaholes 02-02-2013 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HoangP (Post 57312018)
There are lack of information about this tablet. That is the reason holds me back from buying this :(

There is a $1200 ASUS Slate the the Microsoft Store you can get instead.

The one without Windows installed is gone. Not sure about the one with Windows 7.

bobbyboy1 02-02-2013 09:34 AM

1. Not upgradable to Android 4.0

2. WIndows 8 needs a network driver that they are currently not interested in making

dieanotherday 02-02-2013 09:34 AM

even since i got a netbook, i vowed to never get another atom whatever again.

Bagira 02-02-2013 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fymfaholes (Post 57316308)
There is a $1200 ASUS Slate the the Microsoft Store you can get instead.

The one without Windows installed is gone. Not sure about the one with Windows 7.

With Windows 7 still available, just checked.

...car DVD changer w/Daemon tools or Virtual Clone Drive.
...Music player. I can put a lot of mp3 files on 64GB SSD :)
...GPS 10" screen, either Android or Windows.
...good screen resolution..

Probably cannot do real-time video encoding or heavy statictical analysis, but I am not sure I need it in my car.
Cannot connect from Windows? Fine, I can still connect from Android if I need to.

I am already in love with my new CarPC.

OP, TU and repped.

travfar 02-02-2013 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbyboy1 (Post 57316470)
2. WIndows 8 needs a network driver that they are currently not interested in making

Only one Amazon reviewer said he couldn't get W8 running. Like I said before, I'm pretty sure that W7 drivers work with W8. For example, the Sony Z11 laptop will not get official W8 support. But plenty of people run W8 on their Z11's. They just use the W7 drivers in W8.

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Originally Posted by Bagira (Post 57316540)
With Windows 7 still available, just checked.

...car DVD changer w/Daemon tools or Virtual Clone Drive.
...Music player. I can put a lot of mp3 files on 64GB SSD :)
...GPS 10" screen, either Android or Windows.
...good screen resolution..

Probably cannot do real-time video encoding or heavy statictical analysis, but I am not sure I need it in my car.
Cannot connect from Windows? Fine, I can still connect from Android if I need to.

I am already in love with my new CarPC.

OP, TU and repped.

You can do all those things with an Android tablet and get twice the battery life. Even if you actually need 64GB, just get a 64GB card. The only reason to get this tablet is if you need x86 support.

sklar 02-02-2013 09:50 AM

https://www.decide.com/p/tablets-...d-31963272

"Don't buy it. Better products available."

Rated 23/100

travfar 02-02-2013 09:54 AM

Windows 8 does run on it's little brother the 10.

"This tablet works great! It came with Windows 7 installed which worked well, however I installed the Windows 8 preview on it and boy does it make the tablet experience totally come to life!"

http://www.amazon.com/review/R30I...B004OT67FK

sklar 02-02-2013 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Bagira (Post 57315514)
To all non-believers: I've been running Windows 7 and Windows 8 on my n270-based Asus EEE netbook, and I find the performance quite tolerable.

My girlfriends daughter has an i7 laptop. Full of malware. Took 15 minutes to boot and a minute or two to load a browser. She thought that was normal and just turned it on and went and did other stuff until it came up.

Of course I fixed it and now it boots in 20 seconds and browser loads instantly. She likes it a lot more now. But for a year she put up with that, because she had no other expectations.

So it should come as no surprise that one persons 'tolerable' is another persons 'too damn slow'. I've used a variety of atom based products. Unless your expectations are pretty low, they won't be met by this product. Its good for browsing and email. So are a ton of <$99 android slabs.

Shin_SCDL 02-02-2013 09:56 AM

The Atom processor sux, my net book was the last time I buy anything with it.

Bagira 02-02-2013 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by travfar (Post 57316698)
Only one Amazon reviewer said he couldn't get W8 running. Like I said before, I'm pretty sure that W7 drivers work with W8. For example, the Sony Z11 laptop will not get official W8 support. But plenty of people run W8 on their Z11's. They just use the W7 drivers in W8.



You can do all those things with an Android tablet and get twice the battery life. Even if you actually need 64GB, just get a 64GB card. The only reason to get this tablet is if you need x86 support.

But I do want x86 support.
I have plenty of Windows-only apps I'd like to run on it.
Most tablet SD card readers don't support 64GB sdxc cards.
Don't care about battery life, it will be connected to the car charger.

Do you know how to make virtual DVD changer in Android? /hint: it is possible/.

Bagira 02-02-2013 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by sklar (Post 57316846)
My girlfriends daughter has an i7 laptop. Full of malware. Took 15 minutes to boot and a minute or two to load a browser. She thought that was normal and just turned it on and went and did other stuff until it came up.

Of course I fixed it and now it boots in 20 seconds and browser loads instantly. She likes it a lot more now. But for a year she put up with that, because she had no other expectations.

So it should come as no surprise that one persons 'tolerable' is another persons 'too damn slow'. I've used a variety of atom based products. Unless your expectations are pretty low, they won't be met by this product. Its good for browsing and email. So are a ton of <$99 android slabs.

Interesting story.
I have two atom netbooks w/N270 and 2GB of RAM in front of me right now.
I repeat: the performance is tolerable for me. It can play music and video. I wouldn't run Premiere or Photoshop on those things.
I installed OSes on both from scratch.
Anyway, to each their own.
I do wanna dual-boot tablet.

travfar 02-02-2013 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Bagira (Post 57316906)
Do you know how to make virtual DVD changer in Android? /hint: it is possible/.

The question is not how. The question is why? DVD changers were a solution because physical DVDs had to be changed. What's the point to a virtual DVD changer? Everything is already in memory. It's all just there, nothing needs to be changed.

andonly 02-02-2013 10:08 AM

For those who missed don't feel bad. Using single core atom with a win7 tab is a torturing experience.

PoisonWolf 02-02-2013 10:08 AM

ATOM processors blow so hard that it even beats a leafblower.

I tried it once when I purchased a netbook, the joke was on me. Never again.

Even if this was $50 I still wouldn't buy it (assuming I'm buying it for personal use and not being a bass ackward reseller). Why buy technological garbage when it's going to be a paper weight within 3 months?

ATOM processors are just garbage, through and through.

You could opt to put something like Lubuntu on it to make the best of it....but *shrugs*.

sklar 02-02-2013 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Bagira (Post 57316978)
I repeat: the performance is tolerable for me

Fixed that for you.

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Anyway, to each their own.
And that was my point. For you, a really slow tablet is okay. But your earlier statement was more in line with "Hey haters, this tablet performs great!". If you added "for my needs" or "for me" as above, then thats great. But for most people paying $150-300 for a slower than crap tablet wouldn't be a great idea. Like I've said, that money buys you a far better performing product than this. That this is somewhat acceptable to some from a performance perspective isn't even in the top 5 issues. Why buy it in the first place when you have better and cheaper options is the #1 issue of concern.

Bagira 02-02-2013 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by travfar (Post 57317036)
The question is not how. The question is why? DVD changers were a solution because physical DVDs had to be changed. What's the point to a virtual DVD changer? Everything is already in memory. It's all just there, nothing needs to be changed.

The point is I can access any of my DVDs at any time, w/o long reencoding etc. With all the extras on DVD.
OK, let's agree to disagree. You don't need it, fine. I do need/want it.

waltz78 02-02-2013 10:13 AM

A 1.0gHz Atom is about equal in real world performance to a 500mHz Pentium II, with better multitasking support (it doesn't lock up at 100% when 2 programs are run... maybe 3 or 4). No joke.

travfar 02-02-2013 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Bagira (Post 57317112)
The point is I can access any of my DVDs at any time, w/o long reencoding etc. With all the extras on DVD.
OK, let's agree to disagree. You don't need it, fine. I do need/want it.

Why would you need to reencode? You can play VOB files directly in Windows. Just as fast/easy to copy over VOB files as it is to make an ISO just so that you can have virtual DVD fun. You know, if you did reencode using a modern codec as oppose to MPEG2, then you wouldn't need 64GB.

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Originally Posted by waltz78 (Post 57317168)
A 1.0gHz Atom is about equal in real world performance to a 500mHz Pentium II, with better multitasking support (it doesn't lock up at 100% when 2 programs are run... maybe 3 or 4). No joke.

Sweet!!! Does Windows 98 run on this?

muntu 02-02-2013 10:16 AM

Order went through but still no confirmation email...Anyone else?

Bagira 02-02-2013 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by sklar (Post 57317090)
Fixed that for you.



And that was my point. For you, a really slow tablet is okay. But your earlier statement was more in line with "Hey haters, this tablet performs great!". If you added "for my needs" or "for me" as above, then thats great. But for most people paying $150-300 for a slower than crap tablet wouldn't be a great idea. Like I've said, that money buys you a far better performing product than this. That this is somewhat acceptable to some from a performance perspective isn't even in the top 5 issues. Why buy it in the first place when you have better and cheaper options is the #1 issue of concern.

Yeah, for me really slow tablet is OK. Tell it to my Lenovo Yoga i7, LOL.
This product perfectly fits my need for it, that's all.

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Originally Posted by travfar (Post 57317170)
Why would you need to reencode? You can play VOB files directly in Windows. Just as fast/easy to copy over VOB files as it is to make an ISO just so that you can have virtual DVD fun. You know, if you did reencode using a modern codec as oppose to MPEG2, then you wouldn't need 64GB.

Yes, I know that, I still prefer ISO, LOL.


OK, this discussion has became totally counterproductive and useless.

ChimeM 02-02-2013 10:18 AM

Atom processors suck probably because they are designed to be like that.
Intel wanted some low power processors which won't undercut the sales of their faster processors which more or less dominate the market.

I would stay away from atom computers. You may have better luck with the AMD APU's.

muntu 02-02-2013 10:18 AM

Just FYI to all those hating on atom processors, media center content runs quite well on them. So it will be good for all those Downton Abbey episodes I've recorded off of the local pbs affiliate.
EDIT: Or better as a client of my HD Homerun.

someones1 02-02-2013 10:18 AM

I hate Atom processors with Windows, but load it up with a Linux build like Damn Small Linux (DSL) and it will fly... would work great as a cheap backpacking/traveling computer.

muntu 02-02-2013 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by travfar (Post 57316826)
Windows 8 does run on it's little brother the 10.

"This tablet works great! It came with Windows 7 installed which worked well, however I installed the Windows 8 preview on it and boy does it make the tablet experience totally come to life!"

http://www.amazon.com/review/R30I...B004OT67FK

Haha. Look through the pics and pay attention to the very last pic...This tablet may have been "ahead of its time"...

tennisplayer888 02-02-2013 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by someones1 (Post 57317256)
I hate Atom processors with Windows, but load it up with a Linux build like Damn Small Linux (DSL) and it will fly... would work great as a cheap backpacking/traveling computer.

With 2-3 hour real-world battery life...

sunilmma 02-02-2013 10:28 AM

I will sell mine

travfar 02-02-2013 10:45 AM

How come the "i bought this" keeps going up although it's been OOS for a while now? Are people really paying $300 for the one with W7 preloaded?

CyberGuy 02-02-2013 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by travfar (Post 57317716)
How come the "i bought this" keeps going up although it's been OOS for a while now? Are people really paying $300 for the one with W7 preloaded?

The $300 one is not OOS

spunker88 02-02-2013 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by lvlrdka22 (Post 57312320)
Really? It's older than N270, which already runs a little sluggish when I stream some videos on Arch with no desktop environment, at 1024x600, can't imagine how slow it'll crawl on Win 7.
If you can install some form of lightweight Linux distro that's touch oriented though, it might be better.

Apparently Z670 came out in mid 2011, while N270 in 2008.

I've got an old HP netbook with the N270 and it isn't that bad. Its single core but it has hyperthreading so it simulates two cores. I'd say its comparable to around a 2Ghz Pentium 4, but the integrated graphics are much better as it runs aero on Windows 7, so it will play video better than a P4 with integrated graphics can.

This would have been a good tablet for $149 if you could get Windows 8 on it. Would be nice for some actual productivity meaning Office and other x86 programs that have yet to make their way to Android/iOS without being stripped down.

travfar 02-02-2013 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberGuy (Post 57317736)
The $300 one is not OOS

Thus the second question in my post.

trebb 02-02-2013 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by muntu (Post 57317222)
Order went through but still no confirmation email...Anyone else?

Same here. Glad I printed out the order no.

AGA7d 02-02-2013 10:54 AM

Why some say it cannot be upgraded to Jellybean? Is it that the company has no push-update available?

marshcat 02-02-2013 10:55 AM

All I need is something that can run OneNote for my classes. Don't need an i7 for that. Bought one @ $150. I'm confidant I'll find a way to make Windows 8 work.

fergucen 02-02-2013 11:00 AM

http://www.viewsonic.com.cn/downloads/V10pi.rar
Win7 drivers from viewsonic.com.cn.
ALL .exe applications.

includes:
Audio
BT270 (Bluetooth)
Chipset
Controls Center
GPS
NU-103 WIFI
VGA

einhander 02-02-2013 11:01 AM

Looks like they updated the page to make it look like a deal. Msrp 849

recklessk 02-02-2013 11:05 AM

im not sure whether to keep this now. i have a samsung slate 7, but the price was too good to pass up. anyone actually own this?


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