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samsingla 02-05-2013 02:20 PM

Dell XPS 12 Convertible Ultrabook Tablet -Refurbished-$831 + tax FS
 
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Dell XPS 12 Convertible Ultrabook Tablet / Laptop-Refurbished-$831 + tax FS

I was debating between Yoga 13 and XPS 12 and finally found a great deal on XPS which helped me decide. The unit is factory certified and comes with one year full warranty with technical phone and in-home support. This might probably be the best price on a convertible ultrabook as of today. I got the second option and saved almost $500.

Linky:
http://outlet.us.dell.com/ARBOnli...1&fid=1091

Select from the following options and add to cart:
Intel 3rd Generation i5-3317 / 128 GB SSD / 4GB - $831
Intel 3rd Generation i7-3517U / 128 GB SSD / 8GB - $999
Intel 3rd Generation i5-3317 / 256 GB SSD / 8GB - $1039
Intel 3rd Generation i7-3517U / 256 GB SSD / 8GB - $1175

Use coupon GXV$MWKN3591V$ to get the discounted prices. Thanks Spartan05 for the coupon code.

P.S: You will see couple more options on the page. I'm using my mobile to post this deal but once I'm home I'll add all the options. Feel free to update the wiki :)

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Please note that the RAM is soldered so make sure that you pick the 8 GB one if that's what you want. You can always update the ssd on this later.

Please see vandetta's post for more information n link to the YouTube video showing how to replace the ssd.

http://slickdeals.net/forums/show...ostcount=8

samsingla 02-05-2013 02:32 PM

Why the td? At least give a reason or post a lower price *smh*

Joe1199 02-05-2013 02:51 PM

Do you know if you can use Dell gift cards in the outlet? Also any opinions on this deal and pc in general

flashback 02-05-2013 02:52 PM

Great deal. Period. This probably won't last long as they usually don't want any coupons to apply to the xps 12. The last one that worked only functioned for about a day and then they stopped it saying that the xps 12 isn't "laptop" so it doesn't qualify. Thanks.

Mr.Le 02-05-2013 02:57 PM

I was looking at getting something like this but I’m one of those that like to see the product I’m buying especially when I’m spending over $500. Also, I would like to get feedback from actual owners. What is the actual battery life on this unit? I don’t trust the mfr. spec on this since it’s almost never true in battery time.

dubleo 02-05-2013 02:58 PM

My old tablet PCs were better for productivity work ( Wacom digitizer).

Joe1199 02-05-2013 02:58 PM

also anyone with any experience with refurbished units?

BeerBellyBob 02-05-2013 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe1199 (Post 57388894)
Do you know if you can use Dell gift cards in the outlet?

Yes


Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe1199 (Post 57389020)
also anyone with any experience with refurbished units?

They have they same warranty as new units and look new as well. Only difference is the sticker they paste on the bottom of the unit. I've never had any issues with Dell Refurbs.

Thinboy 02-05-2013 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe1199 (Post 57389020)
also anyone with any experience with refurbished units?

Dell refurbished units are as good as new. I've made multiple purchases from Dell Outlet, and all functioned perfectly. The only one that wasn't in a like-new state was a scratch and dent desktop that had a 1-inch paint scratch on the side.
This question comes up in most Dell Outlet threads, and you'll hear the same thing from other SD'ers. Worse case scenario, they take returns easily.
Some call and "complain" about their order after receiving it for the sole purpose of getting extra discounts.

samsingla 02-05-2013 03:10 PM

@Joe - I think it is a great laptop. I had spent a lot time with yoga 13 and surface pro (demo unit at best buy). Yoga 13 is great laptop but once you turn the screen all the way, holding the unit with the keyboard down was really odd for me. Also I felt it was a little too big n heavy to use in the tablet mode. You will really feel it once you hold it with a single hand for 5 minutes or so.

I also spent some time with surface pro 64 Gb. Though I loved it but I didn't see myself using it as my primary laptop. The screen was too small for my taste. Also attachable keyboard means that you always need to place it on a hard surface to use it. If you're in your bed or on couch, you can only use it in tablet mode.

The xps satisfied all my needs. Now you might be looking for something entirely different but in all its a great laptop/tablet, so get one if you can :)

samsingla 02-05-2013 03:12 PM

Wow - I started typing on my.mobile when I first saw your post n didn't expect so many replies. I guess I really need this laptop quick :)

Joe1199 02-05-2013 03:14 PM

Thanks for all the replies everyone, hopefully there will be some units left when i get home from work. Think i'll pull the trigger on this one!

robwadeson 02-05-2013 03:17 PM

overpriced just for the special hinges design lmao!

WingsTown 02-05-2013 03:30 PM

Wow, this puts the yoga 13 back a bit. Good deal. Thanks

mva5580 02-05-2013 03:44 PM

Wow, thank you! I thought it over for a few minutes but I placed an order on the i5/8gb/256gb for $1,125 total.

I've been wanting to give one of these a try and if I love it, I'll sell my iPad. If it doesn't do anything for me, I'll throw it up on Ebay and probably get what I paid for it. Thanks again!

BeerBellyBob 02-05-2013 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mva5580 (Post 57390026)
Wow, thank you! I thought it over for a few minutes but I placed an order on the i5/8gb/256gb for $1,125 total.

I've been wanting to give one of these a try and if I love it, I'll sell my iPad. If it doesn't do anything for me, I'll throw it up on Ebay and probably get what I paid for it. Thanks again!

What extra option did you get? I got the same specs for $1,039.20.

mva5580 02-05-2013 03:48 PM

I didn't get any extra options, it's just what came up on the page. It was shown for $1,299 and after the discount + tax it ended up at $1,125.

I noticed that some of the prices varied for similar specs though. No big deal to me though, that's still a crazy deal.

sjracer25 02-05-2013 03:49 PM

nice looking machine with great price. I'm a bit put off by "starting at 3.35lbs". Not that ultra for a 12'', will be a workout when held as a tablet.

Still, nice looking machine.

newsbinreporter 02-05-2013 03:58 PM

I was thinking about buying a Yoga but this might be better. Just a few questions I have that perhaps someone here may be able to answer.
1) Is the SSD upgradable ?
2) How long is the real life battery life ?
3) Can this run modern games? Not expecting super high-res here but I'd like to indulge in a little gaming on the road every once in a while.

deshwasi 02-05-2013 04:00 PM

tempting.. is the i7/8gb worth $170 more than i5/4gb config? cant decide between the two since i dont need the upgrade now but for future not sure..

ynr00 02-05-2013 04:04 PM

will buy when amex sync comes with dell gift card

samsingla 02-05-2013 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newsbinreporter (Post 57390304)
I was thinking about buying a Yoga but this might be better. Just a few questions I have that perhaps someone here may be able to answer.
1) Is the SSD upgradable ?
2) How long is the real life battery life ?
3) Can this run modern games? Not expecting super high-res here but I'd like to indulge in a little gaming on the road every once in a while.

SSD is upgradeable, see wiki.
Not sure
If u pick i7, 8gb you should be more than okay with little gaming.

TidalWaveOne 02-05-2013 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deshwasi (Post 57390368)
tempting.. is the i7/8gb worth $170 more than i5/4gb config? cant decide between the two since i dont need the upgrade now but for future not sure..

Yup! You can't upgrade the RAM so go with 8GB for a little more money.

deshwasi 02-05-2013 04:11 PM

just went for the i7/8gb for 1060 shipped.

vandetta 02-05-2013 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newsbinreporter (Post 57390304)
I was thinking about buying a Yoga but this might be better. Just a few questions I have that perhaps someone here may be able to answer.
1) Is the SSD upgradable ?
2) How long is the real life battery life ?
3) Can this run modern games? Not expecting super high-res here but I'd like to indulge in a little gaming on the road every once in a while.


1) Yes but it requires taking out about 11 tiny screws that strip easily. It uses msata which looks like a wifi card.
2) http://www.theverge.com/2012/11/2...-12-review 4:33 hr
3) It has the Intel HD Graphics 4000 which is decent I guess. Handles 1080 vids no problem on xbmc and the games on the windows store.


Quote:

Originally Posted by vandetta (Post 57326476)
Get the vmultra drive- it has everything: http://www.velocitymicro.com/VMultradrive.php
Its an external hd, card reader, and disc drive in one.

Also I've had this unit since late November- best laptop I have ever owned. This price is good considering I paid around $1,460 tax included a few months back.

Somethings I've learned:
  1. It fits the bookbook 13in mac book air case perfectly http://twelvesouth.com/products/B...k_for_Air/
  2. If you plan on re-imaging it- you need to place an extracted image- just the files only from a Windows 8 iso onto a fat32 usb- not an ntfs- otherwise you can not boot to it
  3. UEFI needs to be enabled in bios before you reinstall the OS. I wanted a clean install and I did not realize fast boot, disable legacy boot, and enable secure boot had to be enabled to get the same lightening fast boot time.
  4. 128gb is not enough- I updated my SSD mainly because it failed (not Dell's fault but Samsung makes the SSD) but I always planned to do so in the future when the price came down. I picked up the crucial m4 SSD. This video is identical to the XPS12 cept there was a screw under the silver badge https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usk560qAboA
  5. Disable powershare in the bios if you don't want your laptop to charge usb devices when turned off...
  6. Use windows XP style scaling under custom display scaling. I set mine to 160% so that I can actually read things and so that flash videos can go full screen without the taskbar showing (its some kind of glitch with scaling). I'm using layout.css.devpixelsperpx set to 2.0 in Firefox under about:config and nosquint so that firefox remembers page zooms.
  7. OblyTile for custom Win8 tiles: http://forum.xda-developers.com/s...?t=1899865

As mentioned- Dell probably could have added an extra usb port & a card reader but meh. Also I'm not a big fan of the display port- I ended up having to spend an extra 30 bucks to get a mini display port to hdmi adapter and usb ethernet port from monoprice.


pslax15 02-05-2013 04:13 PM

Not sure if this applies to Outlet purchases, but you get 5% back as a Dell Advantage member.

yuanz90 02-05-2013 04:14 PM

on the fence on this one...is the RAM upgradable? the battery is mediocre from online reviews, basic web browsing last about 5 hours.

dQn 02-05-2013 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WingsTown (Post 57389690)
Wow, this puts the yoga 13 back a bit. Good deal. Thanks

I got the yoga 13 @ bestbuy open box for 600+ tax.

oldbean 02-05-2013 04:17 PM

Quote:

Quote from Joe1199 View Post :
also anyone with any experience with refurbished units?
sometimes they just cant fix the refurbs i used to sell dells on ebay and i sold refurbs few times they had problems. I think the factory tech thinks he got it fixxed but then it comes back. Like intermittant hardware problems. So don't let them trick u into thinking its like new. Unless returned coz change mind, something was wrong with them. Maybe , hopefully, they replaced and fixxed the errant part. But not always. -Bean

GoldenTiger 02-05-2013 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubleo (Post 57389014)
My old tablet PCs were better for productivity work ( Wacom digitizer).

This, just got an X230 Tablet convertible with that and MUCH better specs than these Dells, for $664 shipped + tax. This deal is fairly cool. X230 Tablet has full-speed HD4000, and i5, plus user-replaceable RAM/SSD/etc. and Wacom digitizer + pen.

dubleo 02-05-2013 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldenTiger (Post 57390760)
This, just got an X230 Tablet convertible with that and MUCH better specs than these Dells, for $664 shipped + tax. This deal is fairly cool. X230 Tablet has full-speed HD4000, and i5, plus user-replaceable RAM/SSD/etc. and Wacom digitizer + pen.

I own a X230t right now but I might replace it with either a Fujitsu Lifebook T902 or its successor.

After owning older Fujitsu tablet PCs , it's hard to find a replacement ( in terms of digitizer performance).

The newer Fujitsu also has a much nicer screen ( 13.3" @1600 x 900 ).

dep3che 02-05-2013 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by samsingla (Post 57389276)
@Joe - I think it is a great laptop. I had spent a lot time with yoga 13 and surface pro (demo unit at best buy). Yoga 13 is great laptop but once you turn the screen all the way, holding the unit with the keyboard down was really odd for me. Also I felt it was a little too big n heavy to use in the tablet mode. You will really feel it once you hold it with a single hand for 5 minutes or so.

I also spent some time with surface pro 64 Gb. Though I loved it but I didn't see myself using it as my primary laptop. The screen was too small for my taste. Also attachable keyboard means that you always need to place it on a hard surface to use it. If you're in your bed or on couch, you can only use it in tablet mode.

The xps satisfied all my needs. Now you might be looking for something entirely different but in all its a great laptop/tablet, so get one if you can :)


Thanks for your post, this makes a lot more sense now since I had been eye'ing the Surface Pro.

billyp203 02-05-2013 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe1199 (Post 57389020)
also anyone with any experience with refurbished units?

Always buy a Dell Refurb! :)

yarnim 02-05-2013 04:41 PM

cant believe they came back with xps DUO's design again. so stupid and worthless.

vandetta 02-05-2013 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sjracer25 (Post 57390114)
nice looking machine with great price. I'm a bit put off by "starting at 3.35lbs". Not that ultra for a 12'', will be a workout when held as a tablet.

Still, nice looking machine.

I had the M2010 for 4 years and it was basically a portable desktop (20lb laptop). After years of lugging that around this seems light weight. But my gf did say this was kind of heavy for her as a tablet.


Quote:

Originally Posted by deshwasi (Post 57390368)
tempting.. is the i7/8gb worth $170 more than i5/4gb config? cant decide between the two since i dont need the upgrade now but for future not sure..

As mentioned- yeah its worth it, you can not upgrade the ram because its soldered to the motherboard- and you can't upgrade the cpu either.

Samsung makes the 830 SSD and you can't buy Samsung msata drives outright. Supposedly they are faster than anything out and are only available to the manufacturer. A 256gb msata hard drive you cost you around $200 on sale and I think the crucial m4 or the muskin drives are the only alternatives right now. For 175 more at least to me its worth it since if you planned to upgrade yourself it would cost you more.

With the new configurations for the XPS 12 its $300 extra for the 256gb SSD included.

deshwasi 02-05-2013 04:46 PM

well, the $175 more was for an i7/8gb/128gb. the 256gb one costs yet another $200 which is beyond my reach.

yuanz90 02-05-2013 04:49 PM

After a little bit of research, here's the rundown for this ultrabook:

Pros:
above average SSD performance (samsung)
Great build-quality
good quality screen (12" 1080p, good viewing angles, 400-nits brightness, Gorilla glass)

Cons:
kind of heavy and thick to use in tablet mode
5 hour battery life (mediocre if not below average), battery probably being raped by the 1080p display.
flaky trackpad

I personally won't get this just because I need at least 7+ hours of battery life for my work, but for this price it's a great deal. I don't really see how you'll use this as a tablet just because it's so thick and heavy. But I would still recommend you to wait until 2nd-gen windows 8 tablets/ultrabooks to mature, more apps and bettery battery life.

kskreider 02-05-2013 04:52 PM

In the past couple of days I started to shop around for a new laptop/ultrabook to replace a horribly outdated Dell 6400. This looks like a great deal but I think that I am going to push this thing to its grave while I look around. Thanks for the great, informative posts to everyone and to the OP for finding the deal.

I love SD. TU!

EdenResident 02-05-2013 04:53 PM

I was considering this and the Yoga and decided to go with the Yoga. Heres some quick comparisions.

Pros of the XPS:
1920x1080 versus 1600x900
Better build quality
no exposed keyboard in tablet mode
Smaller in size
Cons:
Non-upgradable RAM
Hard to upgrade SSD
No built-in SD reader (for additional storage)
No built in HDMI
Same weight but smaller screen
When you close or open the screen, you might push it out of position.
Seeing through the cracks between the screen and the frame is distracting.

Emjay 02-05-2013 04:55 PM

Overpriced.....All I see good is 1080P and Widi

dubleo 02-05-2013 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EdenResident (Post 57391440)
I was considering this and the Yoga and decided to go with the Yoga. Heres some quick comparisions.

Pros of the XPS:
1920x1080 versus 1600x900
Better build quality
no exposed keyboard in tablet mode
Smaller in size
Cons:
Non-upgradable RAM
Hard to upgrade SSD
No built-in SD reader (for additional storage)
No built in HDMI
Same weight but smaller screen
When you close or open the screen, you might push it out of position.
Seeing through the cracks between the screen and the frame is distracting.

Have you ever looked at the Fujitsu Lifebook T902? It has a Wacom digitizer and it is easier to upgrade somethings on it.

WingsTown 02-05-2013 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dQn (Post 57390730)
I got the yoga 13 @ bestbuy open box for 600+ tax.

:drool:

eldayablo 02-05-2013 05:01 PM

Awesome deal
 
Thanks! I've been eyeing this laptop for a while, and this is the push i needed!

deymayor 02-05-2013 05:03 PM

are people here all of a sudden crapping money??? $1000+ for a refurbished ultrabook can't be slick.

megapper 02-05-2013 05:04 PM

ahhahha...the right question would be "how do they do it" :)

that is, how to crap money for 1000+ refurbished laptop!

jcb193 02-05-2013 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deymayor (Post 57391636)
are people here all of a sudden crapping money??? $1000+ for a refurbished ultrabook can't be slick.

Not everyone on SD buys things just because they go on sale. Some of us need these items for work, or businesses and simply have keywords to alert us when certain products go on sale. I've been watching this Dell for months. Now might be a good time to buy it.

dQn 02-05-2013 05:09 PM

Probably better off buying lenovo yoga 13 new at this price point

Demiurge 02-05-2013 05:16 PM

Just bought one. Will be here next week. Thanks!

gubbar 02-05-2013 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldenTiger (Post 57390760)
This, just got an X230 Tablet convertible with that and MUCH better specs than these Dells, for $664 shipped + tax. This deal is fairly cool. X230 Tablet has full-speed HD4000, and i5, plus user-replaceable RAM/SSD/etc. and Wacom digitizer + pen.

where?

6grapes 02-05-2013 05:37 PM

Beginner question: Other than being refur vs new - How are these different than the ones Dell has on their website that say they are expected to ship on March 26th?

vandetta 02-05-2013 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yarnim (Post 57391238)
cant believe they came back with xps DUO's design again. so stupid and worthless.

I looked at the Yoga before I picked this up a while back. The The Verge [theverge.com] had most of the new convertible laptops reviewed and out of all the designs to me this was the best.

I bought the original Duo for my sister a couple years ago when it was $300 refurbished and my main complaint was the battery life and the fact that it had no video out. They kinda fixed that with the XPS 12. The weight is half of what it was with the original Duo and much more powerful than the Atom processor.

The design that the yoga has, where the laptop folds in reverse is the most practical and I've seen it on a lot of convertible laptops- not a fan of the exposed keys on one side though- even though they are disabled. There's the detachable keyboard design which to me is meh, same with the 180 degree twisting screen. Also there were drawbacks with that slider design that the Sony Duo uses
http://www.cnet.com/laptops/sony-...77656.html
http://www.engadget.com/2012/12/1...11-review/

Arguably the "flipping" screen that Dell uses provides the most "wow" factor. It would take you longer to fold the yoga laptop in reverse w/ both hands than it does to just flip the screen on the XPS12 with one hand.

But they had to sacrifice .7" to do this- since the XPS 12 is almost identical to the XPS 13. The dimensions are the same- but the XPS 12 has more bezel around the screen and so the screen is 12.5 inches.

Turns out for me the 12.5 inch screen is too small to do work on all day and so I had to get an external monitor. I would have picked up the Sony Tap 20 which is basically a giant portable 20" tablet- but it is not a 1080p screen and that was the only reason I picked this up. Panasonic also has a prototype 20" tablet but they made it 4k res which is too much for me...

TidalWaveOne 02-05-2013 05:58 PM

I got one... hope it's a good one! I did get a notebook years ago that had intermittent crashes and got it replaced. I always wondered what they did with that.

Question: I see that this does not have an ethernet port. I will want a faster connection. Any suggestions? I'm leaning toward this:
http://www.amazon.com/Gigabit-Eth...r-mr-title

dubleo 02-05-2013 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gubbar (Post 57391900)
where?

lenovo outlet

aleki 02-05-2013 06:07 PM

I think a lot of people are dramatizing the difficulty of changing out the SSD. As long as you have the right bits, it takes less than five minutes to swap it out; all without stripping any threads.

vandetta 02-05-2013 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TidalWaveOne (Post 57392728)
I got one... hope it's a good one! I did get a notebook years ago that had intermittent crashes and got it replaced. I always wondered what they did with that.

Question: I see that this does not have an ethernet port. I will want a faster connection. Any suggestions? I'm leaning toward this:
http://www.amazon.com/Gigabit-Eth...r-mr-title

I picked up these two

USB 2.0 Gigabit Ethernet Adapter
http://www.monoprice.com/products...1&format=2

Mini DisplayPort | Thunderbolt® to HDMI®, DVI & DisplayPort Adapter
http://www.monoprice.com/products...1&format=2

Monoprice is usually the cheapest for any kind of cables or peripherals. But I honestly haven't used the usb ethernet adapter more than a couple times. If your router is supports N wifi then its fast enough- even G wifi is faster than my ISP's capabilities. Unless you are doing a lot of uploading internally on your network (moving large files >1GB between two computers on your network) you probably wouldn't need this ethernet adapter.

The DisplayPort adapter however, you would need if you want to hook up this laptop to your TV or external monitor.

trancemode 02-05-2013 06:44 PM

damn.. bought it 2 months ago at retail price..

great ultrabook none the less :)

TidalWaveOne 02-05-2013 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vandetta (Post 57393194)
I picked up these two

USB 2.0 Gigabit Ethernet Adapter
http://www.monoprice.com/products...1&format=2

Mini DisplayPort | Thunderbolt® to HDMI®, DVI & DisplayPort Adapter
http://www.monoprice.com/products...1&format=2

Monoprice is usually the cheapest for any kind of cables or peripherals. But I honestly haven't used the usb ethernet adapter more than a couple times. If your router is supports N wifi then its fast enough- even G wifi is faster than my ISP's capabilities. Unless you are doing a lot of uploading internally on your network (moving large files >1GB between two computers on your network) you probably wouldn't need this ethernet adapter.

The DisplayPort adapter however, you would need if you want to hook up this laptop to your TV or external monitor.

Thanks. I think I want a USB 3.0 Gigabit ethernet adapter though. The Mini DisplayPort adapter is pretty slick having 3 output options on the one adapter. I think I'll get a couple of those.

I do like Monoprice!

mva5580 02-05-2013 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gubbar (Post 57391900)
where?

I've seen more than one person on SD post about that X230, and they are in no way giving any sort of unbiased opinion. It's just the typical "I bought it, so that means it's better" garbage you constantly see on the internet.

They state that the X230 is "much" better when 1) It doesn't have the tablet functionality of the XPS 12, 2) It has a 1366 x 768 screen as opposed to 1080p, 3) They come with Windows 7, not Windows 8 (Win 8 Pro costs extra,) 4) the "standard" models of the X230 do not come with SSD's, and 5) It's not even possible to get a 256gb SSD on the x230, the highest it goes is 180gb.

An x230 with 8gb RAM, i5 CPU and 180gb SSD comes out to a little less than $1,400 new. The XPS 12 that I got today with 8gb RAM, i5, 256gb SSD, 1080p screen, and the functionality to use it as a tablet was $1,125 shipped.

It is definitely true that there are multiple X230's on the Lenovo Outlet site for around the $700 mark. ALL of those laptops, have 4gb of RAM, non-SSD hard drives, a 1366 x 768 screen. And they can't "transform" into tablets. There is one on there that's an i5, 8gb RAM, Windows 7, and a 500gb SATA drive for $1,175. And again, it's a 1366 x 768 screen. I do not see in any way how ANY of the X230 configurations are "much better" than the XPS 12 configurations.

So if that's a laptop that makes people happy, fine. So be it. But for people to run on here and act like that laptop is "much" better than the XPS 12 is ridiculous. If you aren't interested in the higher resolution screen/tablet functionality/SSD features of the XPS 12, then yes obviously something cheaper like the Lenovo could be right for you. But don't act like just because you don't care about those features, that they're worthless.

deelseaker 02-05-2013 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deymayor (Post 57391636)
are people here all of a sudden crapping money??? $1000+ for a refurbished ultrabook can't be slick.

Repped. Thanks for putting it into perspective for me.

ChubbyTime 02-05-2013 10:58 PM

In for one. Should be arriving some time next week.

So hyped!

wespott 02-06-2013 12:34 AM

I grabbed one. It was a better deal than the Surface Pro I was looking to buy next week.

nhosg0604 02-06-2013 03:29 AM

Thanks OP! repped!
Grabbed the last one i7-3517U / 128 GB SSD / 8GB with Win 8 Pro, $1,055.20 before tax.
Hope this one is better than Surface Pro.

samsingla 02-06-2013 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nhosg0604 (Post 57399352)
Thanks OP! repped!
Grabbed the last one i7-3517U / 128 GB SSD / 8GB with Win 8 Pro, $1,055.20 before tax.
Hope this one is better than Surface Pro.

Did you add anything extra? That should have been $999 before tax.

starwarsjunkie 02-06-2013 06:20 AM

I went for yoga....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WingsTown (Post 57389690)
Wow, this puts the yoga 13 back a bit. Good deal. Thanks

Debated long and hard because xps12 has 1080p screen and backlit keys. However yoga bends is so many positions; I thought it was marketing fluff until I actually bought one. Now I find myself using the yoga in all of it configs, which xps cannot do.
Also xps 12 is ugly in my opinion.

deymayor 02-06-2013 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by starwarsjunkie (Post 57401028)
Debated long and hard because xps12 has 1080p screen and backlit keys. However yoga bends is so many positions; I thought it was marketing fluff until I actually bought one. Now I find myself using the yoga in all of it configs, which xps cannot do.
Also xps 12 is ugly in my opinion.

it bends? dude, you can probably get a girl for less than what you paid for that thing. some of them can also bend any way you want her to. she may not have an i5 processor but if bending if important...

Stickboy46 02-06-2013 06:50 AM

Hmmm have an i7/8GB/256GB in my cart. Do i get that or the pro. This is more powerful for basically the same price ... but is twice as heavy and no pen ..

If there was no restocking fee, I'd order both, but .. 15% restocking fee is retarded. That's over 200 bucks on this!

bpb1970 02-06-2013 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yuanz90 (Post 57391368)
After a little bit of research, here's the rundown for this ultrabook:

Pros:
above average SSD performance (samsung)
Great build-quality
good quality screen (12" 1080p, good viewing angles, 400-nits brightness, Gorilla glass)

Cons:
kind of heavy and thick to use in tablet mode
5 hour battery life (mediocre if not below average), battery probably being raped by the 1080p display.
flaky trackpad

I personally won't get this just because I need at least 7+ hours of battery life for my work, but for this price it's a great deal. I don't really see how you'll use this as a tablet just because it's so thick and heavy. But I would still recommend you to wait until 2nd-gen windows 8 tablets/ultrabooks to mature, more apps and bettery battery life.


We are testing an XPS 12 for work and those pros and cons are pretty accurate. It is much bigger and bulkier than an iPad when in table mode but it can also do a lot more and has a much larger screen. It is nice to have a device that is able to utilize much more of Windows 8's functionality than a regular laptop. It would be perfect for our needs if there was a dedicated docking station available but as it stands right now only aftermarket docking stations like the Targus models will work which are unreliable and not nearly as seamless.

couponhunter 02-06-2013 07:15 AM

Code:

http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=6706&news=
A good comparison between XPS12 and Yoga.

I am waiting for a deal on the Yoga because I want to pay now for 4GB memory and upgrade it two years later. I also want 13.3" screen, HDMI, media card slot, ability to upgrade SSD, even battery I think. Also, Yoga has an empty SATA slot that you can use to put in a second SSD.

starwarsjunkie 02-06-2013 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deymayor (Post 57401154)
it bends? dude, you can probably get a girl for less than what you paid for that thing. some of them can also bend any way you want her to. she may not have an i5 processor but if bending if important...

If she had a power-down mode you are right...but she doesn't. Ideapad Yoga wins again.

deshwasi 02-06-2013 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by samsingla (Post 57400270)
Did you add anything extra? That should have been $999 before tax.

it was probably the pro that cost extra. 999 was for the home version.

Stickboy46 02-06-2013 08:16 AM

Damnit, just bought a i7/256gb/8gb/home edition (have a copy of 8 pro at home). Not sure why, i really wanted to compare it to the Surface Pro I'm picking up saturday. If I dont like it, I'll give it to the GF and sell her Envy Spectre to make up part of the difference.

prozarka 02-06-2013 08:28 AM

this touch ultrabooks still overpriced, especially dell

LiquidRetro 02-06-2013 08:29 AM

These are really nice and well built machines. I am impressed with the one we have in the office, paid a lot more than the deals here for it.

Stickboy46 02-06-2013 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by prozarka (Post 57403838)
this touch ultrabooks still overpriced, especially dell

I just paid about 1100 for a 3rd gen i7, with 8gb of ram, and a 256 gb SSD in a .57 inch thick 3 lb package with a 1080p touchscreen. I challenge you to find a comparable device for cheaper.

AceWeb 02-06-2013 08:43 AM

Nice deal for an i7, all SSD, and 1080p. Smart move by dell since Surface Pro comes out in a few days.

Center 02-06-2013 09:07 AM

Any guesses on how long this deal will last? I'm seriously debating getting this (I was planning on checking out the Surface Pro on Saturday), but I'm at work and can't spend much time researching atm..

AceWeb 02-06-2013 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Center (Post 57404912)
Any guesses on how long this deal will last? I'm seriously debating getting this (I was planning on checking out the Surface Pro on Saturday), but I'm at work and can't spend much time researching atm..

Those are dell refurbished, so based on the available/remaining quantities. i7's seems to be gone, i5's are still available.

niczon 02-06-2013 09:33 AM

Thank You. Thank You.

I have been eying a supped up version of this specific laptop for a month or two, but the 1700 price tag was way too high. I was going to wait for a deal or wait for the new haswell chipset. This is a definite deal. Got the i7/8GB/256GB model for 1175. From the multitude of reviews this has got online, it seems like the best convertible on the market.

shoaibar 02-06-2013 09:49 AM

Nobody waiting for ASUS transformer book...

niczon 02-06-2013 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by kskreider (Post 57391430)
In the past couple of days I started to shop around for a new laptop/ultrabook to replace a horribly outdated Dell 6400. This looks like a great deal but I think that I am going to push this thing to its grave while I look around. Thanks for the great, informative posts to everyone and to the OP for finding the deal.

I love SD. TU!

Those 6400's are great. I just upgraded the harddrive in my Dell 6400 to the sandisk extreme SSD a few months ago and the thing works great, just under 30 second boot-up time from cold. Application loading is quick too.

Stickboy46 02-06-2013 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by niczon (Post 57405688)
Thank You. Thank You.

I have been eying a supped up version of this specific laptop for a month or two, but the 1700 price tag was way too high. I was going to wait for a deal or wait for the new haswell chipset. This is a definite deal. Got the i7/8GB/256GB model for 1175. From the multitude of reviews this has got online, it seems like the best convertible on the market.

Agreed, Picked up the exact version for my GF. ie .. buying it for me but I get brownie points cuz she thinks its hers! :p

Stickboy46 02-06-2013 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by AceWeb (Post 57405078)
Those are dell refurbished, so based on the available/remaining quantities. i7's seems to be gone, i5's are still available.

They seems to be going in and out of stock. I keep seeing the i7/8gb/256gb combo i bought popping up then going away.

AceWeb 02-06-2013 10:49 AM

Interesting. I got the i7/8GB/256GB yesterday as well and, supposedly, there were only 2 available yesterday. Mine still says 'in production' so hope it ships.

nhosg0604 02-06-2013 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by samsingla (Post 57400270)
Did you add anything extra? That should have been $999 before tax.

I think $999 is Win 8 Home Edition, mine is Win 8 Professional

dubleo 02-06-2013 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bpb1970 (Post 57401858)
We are testing an XPS 12 for work and those pros and cons are pretty accurate. It is much bigger and bulkier than an iPad when in table mode but it can also do a lot more and has a much larger screen. It is nice to have a device that is able to utilize much more of Windows 8's functionality than a regular laptop. It would be perfect for our needs if there was a dedicated docking station available but as it stands right now only aftermarket docking stations like the Targus models will work which are unreliable and not nearly as seamless.

The Fujitsu Lifebook T902 has a docking station.

Center 02-06-2013 12:04 PM

Thank you! Just bought it (during my lunch hour). I also remembered that I have a Dell Financial Services account so 0% interest for 6 months! $889.60 after tax (shipping was apparently gratis)..

I was reluctant about the Surface Pro because it's a 1st gen device, plus Haswell is coming out later this year. But this XPS 12 Convertible is perfect for my needs (other than lacking a microsd slot :( )

4me2deal 02-06-2013 12:05 PM

Well that just saved me about $500 off retail. Thanks!

seventh_wonder 02-06-2013 12:17 PM

opted to pay the extra $170 and get the upgraded processor (i5 to i7) and ram (4gb to 8gb). should keep me satisfied for next 3 years or so....

niczon 02-06-2013 12:19 PM

Since these are low inventory items, they disappear from stock for 15 min when someone puts them in the cart to ensure supply on purchase. They then reappear when the timer runs out or when people remove them from the cart. Also, as inventory re-enters the pipeline they show up again. Most of what you are seeing is inventory moving in and out of carts.

That's why you see the inventory shifting underneath you.

AceWeb 02-06-2013 12:24 PM

Ah, that makes sense! Thanks1

samsingla 02-06-2013 01:20 PM

I'm glad I was able to help some people who were specifically looking for this laptop. I was set on buying Yoga 13 until I went to bestbuy and spent some time with Yoga and Surface Pro. And then I got my hands on XPS and I knew this is what I wanted. This Dell unit certainly does bring the best of both tablet/laptop.

Considering I was one of the early birds if not the first one on here to order this laptop, I was concerned that why the order status is still showing as 'In Production' when it really is an already built refurbished unit. I contacted dell support and when I asked them the same, I got the following response:

"Once the order got placed, it goes through quality check and testing before it is ready to be shipped from Dell so that it is received in perfect shape to our customers and they get full value for their hard earned money invested in the product."

Though it is a very positive response, but I'm starting to get concerned because of this:
Quote:

Originally Posted by flashback (Post 57388924)
Great deal. Period. This probably won't last long as they usually don't want any coupons to apply to the xps 12. The last one that worked only functioned for about a day and then they stopped it saying that the xps 12 isn't "laptop" so it doesn't qualify. Thanks.

Last thing I want is for them to cancel this order stating this is not a LAPTOP. Anybody on here having experience with refurbished until from dell outlet? Do they really take a while before they ship or am I getting overly concerned :)

samsingla 02-06-2013 01:26 PM

And for the impatient lot like me, they can setup a text alert for when the order ships out of Dell. This will be a one time deal and you won't receive any marketing texts later (at least that's what I was told).

mva5580 02-06-2013 01:26 PM

I have a little concern myself about the order being filled. Mine is "In Production" as well, periodically refreshing hoping to see that "Shipped" status lol.

I'm pretty excited to get it, I've been looking at Windows 8 tablets/convertibles for a while now and this is the only one that has really been of big interest to me. My main concerns are the weight and battery life but I'm not too concerned about the battery life as I'm not someone to sit down and use it for 4 hours+ and completely run the battery down, and while I'm sure it will feel hefty in my hands compared to an iPad, I love that I can essentially use the keyboard base as a stand for my lap while sitting down.

Definitely looking forward to messing around with it and honestly if I really dislike it within the first 21 days, I'll just return it. I wish these were in stores so I could have tried it out first, but I've read enough online to think that I'll enjoy it.

aleki 02-06-2013 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by samsingla (Post 57411748)
I'm glad I was able to help some people who were specifically looking for this laptop. I was set on buying Yoga 13 until I went to bestbuy and spent some time with Yoga and Surface Pro. And then I got my hands on XPS and I knew this is what I wanted. This Dell unit certainly does bring the best of both tablet/laptop.

Considering I was one of the early birds if not the first one on here to order this laptop, I was concerned that why the order status is still showing as 'In Production' when it really is an already built refurbished unit. I contacted dell support and when I asked them the same, I got the following response:

"Once the order got placed, it goes through quality check and testing before it is ready to be shipped from Dell so that it is received in perfect shape to our customers and they get full value for their hard earned money invested in the product."

Though it is a very positive response, but I'm starting to get concerned because of this:


Last thing I want is for them to cancel this order stating this is not a LAPTOP. Anybody on here having experience with refurbished until from dell outlet? Do they really take a while before they ship or am I getting overly concerned :)

Ultrabooks and convertible notebooks sit on your lap just like any other laptop; not sure why they would classify them as anything else.
The last deal that was going on expired because it hit the redemption limit; but if you called in your order, they would usually make exceptions.
That said, I talked my friend into one and he absoluteley loves the device (Quite a steal for $700; considering what that gets you today).

PS: I've placed several orders from dell outlet in the past few months; every order has hung on processing for a few days before shipping.. So dont worry, yours will get there :)

AceWeb 02-06-2013 01:34 PM

Thanks again for posting this deal. I, too, was concerned as to why it did not ship yet but will wait as I do not think I will get any better answer than yours if I do contact them (and did setup e-mail notification for shipping).

samsingla 02-06-2013 01:35 PM

@Aceweb - You're welcome. I'm glad I was able to help.

Thank you, aleki for the response.

bdams19 02-06-2013 01:49 PM

dead??

muslhead 02-06-2013 02:00 PM

Dead!

merlin803 02-06-2013 02:12 PM

I have been refreshing all day and finally nabbed the one that I was looking for -

Intel 3rd Generation i7-3517U / 128 GB SSD / 8GB - $999

Thanks OP!

wh00ps 02-06-2013 02:12 PM

Will this come back anytime soon? Or is it dead for awhile.
Also anyone know/tried using the tablet mode, and how it feels (heavyness,awkward,fits right)

magoomba 02-06-2013 02:31 PM

Was looking at this vs the Yoga 13.
As much as I like Lenovo, I don't like the tablet mode as the keyboard is exposed at the bottom.
Tent-mode is plain stupid -- why would anyone use it.
The XPS 12 seems like a good alternative.

merlin803 02-06-2013 02:36 PM

This has me worried a little, for some reason I thought that refurbished meant that cosmetically the laptop would look like new.

"Certified Refurbished PCs are laptops and desktops that have been returned to Dell, put through the production process, and then again retested to ensure they meet all original factory specifications. Certified Refurbished systems may have some observable cosmetic blemishes, but they will not affect performance."

chriscicc 02-06-2013 03:54 PM

In for 1, thanks OP, repped! Actually bought this last night, so yes the deal is still dead. Got a fully loaded model, and a buddy got the same with the i5. Looking forward to it to replace my 5+ year old X61 Convertible!

sahil80 02-06-2013 04:24 PM

i wish i had nabbed one. dang i am in the market for this.

TidalWaveOne 02-06-2013 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by merlin803 (Post 57413604)
This has me worried a little, for some reason I thought that refurbished meant that cosmetically the laptop would look like new.

"Certified Refurbished PCs are laptops and desktops that have been returned to Dell, put through the production process, and then again retested to ensure they meet all original factory specifications. Certified Refurbished systems may have some observable cosmetic blemishes, but they will not affect performance."

If you want a guarantee of cosmetic perfection, then you'll have to cough up a few hundred dollars and buy new.... is that worth it to you?

I hope mine is "perfect" but if there's a little cosmetic issue with it then it's no big deal for the money I saved.

Bitech 02-06-2013 05:56 PM

How is the Core i7 ULV compared to the i5 ULV?

I've read that the i7 ULV isn't that much faster than the core i5, but everyone here is getting the i7 config.

seventh_wonder 02-06-2013 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bitech (Post 57417370)
How is the Core i7 ULV compared to the i5 ULV?

I've read that the i7 ULV isn't that much faster than the core i5, but everyone here is getting the i7 config.

about 25% faster give or take. really depends on what you'll be doing on it, you may only need the i5.

starwarsjunkie 02-06-2013 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by magoomba (Post 57413482)
Was looking at this vs the Yoga 13.
As much as I like Lenovo, I don't like the tablet mode as the keyboard is exposed at the bottom.
Tent-mode is plain stupid -- why would anyone use it.
The XPS 12 seems like a good alternative.


I use tent mode on my yoga all the time. Yes I thought it was stupid too until I bought it. Now I will use in tent mode on my kitchen counter or on my chest while watching a movie lying down.

seventh_wonder 02-06-2013 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by starwarsjunkie (Post 57419726)
I use tent mode on my yoga all the time. Yes I thought it was stupid too until I bought it. Now I will use in tent mode on my kitchen counter or on my chest while watching a movie lying down.

have to admit, I never saw the appeal in "tent" mode either. Why not just use "presentation mode" and keep the base of the laptop on a solid surface??

merlin803 02-07-2013 03:11 AM

Don't know how long the code was supposed to last but there are more in stock now...

samsingla 02-07-2013 04:44 AM

Just got an email from Dell saying the order has been delayed :(

Did anyone get a shipping email yet?

Quote:

Originally Posted by merlin803 (Post 57423682)
Don't know how long the code was supposed to last but there are more in stock now...

I think the code expires tomorrow. So anyone looking to buy this laptop, I would say go ahead and take a chance. It'd be great if it indeed ships.

Joe1199 02-07-2013 04:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stickboy46 (Post 57401486)
Hmmm have an i7/8GB/256GB in my cart. Do i get that or the pro. This is more powerful for basically the same price ... but is twice as heavy and no pen ..

If there was no restocking fee, I'd order both, but .. 15% restocking fee is retarded. That's over 200 bucks on this!

Send it back within 30 days of your invoice date for a full refund, including free return shipping. Dell will even waive the restocking fee.*
http://www.dell.com/us/p/d/campai...rue&~ck=mn

Quote:

Originally Posted by samsingla (Post 57424112)
Just got an email from Dell saying the order has been delayed :(

Did anyone get a shipping email yet?



I think the code expires tomorrow. So anyone looking to buy this laptop, I would say go ahead and take a chance. It'd be great if it indeed ships.


Mine still says in production and i ordered on 2/5/13.

art404 02-07-2013 05:30 AM

Same here, ordered 2/5/13, in production, new delivery date 2/14/13

TidalWaveOne 02-07-2013 05:48 AM

I also got a delayed notification this morning.

Stupid Dell... I click on the order number in the email, it opens a browser and then tries to load a page that never loads. You'd think these billion dollar tech companies could fix these issues when web pages and links don't work.

stubbyk86 02-07-2013 06:15 AM

This or Lenovo Yoga -- anyone have any feedback?

thehip420 02-07-2013 06:16 AM

Also got a delayed shipment notification, I ordered the i5 model. New delivery date is 2/15.

I guess delayed is still better than cancelled.

Quote:

Originally Posted by stubbyk86 (Post 57425184)
This or Lenovo Yoga -- anyone have any feedback?

I haven't had the yoga in my hands but I have had a pre-poduction XPS12 (from work) for several weeks and it's a very nice machine! It feels solid and the 1080p screen is beautiful.

deshwasi 02-07-2013 07:56 AM

lucky me i guess.. my i7/8gb/128gb is showing shipped.

couponhunter 02-07-2013 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stubbyk86 (Post 57425184)
This or Lenovo Yoga -- anyone have any feedback?

I am going with a Yoga. But here are my pros and cons.

Yoga 13:
Pros
- Upgradable RAM (to 8GB)
- Second slot for a SATA drive, so you can have two HDDs
- HDMI port (that's not in Yoga)
- Supposedly the battery can be replaced
Cons
- Keyboard is at the bottom when in tablet mode. Though Lenovo has a cover for it for $40.
- Fan runs all the time
- No backlit keyboard

XPS 12
Pros
- 1080p resolution, 400 nit screen compared to 900p and 300nit of Yoga
- Backlit keyboard, which is not in Yoga
- Supposedly built better than Yoga, but that's subjective
Cons
- More expensive than Yoga
- 12.5" Screen (0.8" smaller than Yoga)
- Non upgradable RAM
- No HDMI port, but a mini-display port
- Hard drive is bit harder to remove, but if you have some mechanical skills you can do it

Stickboy46 02-07-2013 08:08 AM

For some reason i just ordered a second i7/8gb/256gb model. Figured I'd get it in case I love the one i got my girlfriend and want it more than my Surface Pro. If not, they are going for 1400+ on ebay refurbished, so I'll get my money back plus some.

stubbyk86 02-07-2013 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thehip420 (Post 57425212)
Also got a delayed shipment notification, I ordered the i5 model. New delivery date is 2/15.

I guess delayed is still better than cancelled.



I haven't had the yoga in my hands but I have had a pre-poduction XPS12 (from work) for several weeks and it's a very nice machine! It feels solid and the 1080p screen is beautiful.

Thanks. I'm going to test the laptop out today at the store. I'll probably jump on this! With that being said, who wants my early 2012 21.5" iMac:lol:

zoro 02-07-2013 09:18 AM

Where r u guys seeing more?

Stickboy46 02-07-2013 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zoro (Post 57429622)
Where r u guys seeing more?

Just refresh it. They reload inventory throughout the day. They were sold out last night and I got a 2nd one this morning.

It also varies because it pulls it out of inventory for 15 minutes while its in someones cart. If they dont check out in 15 min it goes back to being available.

aleki 02-07-2013 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bitech (Post 57417370)
How is the Core i7 ULV compared to the i5 ULV?

I've read that the i7 ULV isn't that much faster than the core i5, but everyone here is getting the i7 config.

There is no architectual difference between the two. The only thing the i7 has going over the i5 in this config is the core frequency

merlin803 02-07-2013 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stubbyk86 (Post 57425184)
This or Lenovo Yoga -- anyone have any feedback?

I actually did pick up the Yoga and ended up returning it, not because I didn't like it, in fact it is a very nice machine and had I not found this deal, I probably would have ended up getting another one, with upgraded specs.

A few things in the Lenovo forums initially scared me off, the fan always running (reported to possibly be fixed in a future update), poor and erratic wireless connection (I experienced the erratic drops but seemingly fixed it with a driver setting change), reports of the paint chipping off very easily and the idea of holding it in tablet mode with the keys being what I hold onto on the bottom of the unit (possibly not an issue with the available case).

Overall, I just felt like it was more "delicate" I guess and feel like the XPS 12 is more sturdy. Plus, for the same price as the basic Yoga I got an i7 with 8gb of ram :)

HetfieldJ 02-07-2013 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bitech (Post 57417370)
How is the Core i7 ULV compared to the i5 ULV?

I've read that the i7 ULV isn't that much faster than the core i5, but everyone here is getting the i7 config.

Cant really tell the difference unless you're testing them. Technically yes, i7 is ULV is faster than i5.

merlin803 02-07-2013 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HetfieldJ (Post 57430444)
Cant really tell the difference unless you're testing them. Technically yes, i7 is ULV is faster than i5.

Doesn't the i7 machines usually test higher in graphics performance also, even with the same graphics chip?

chong67 02-07-2013 09:58 AM

This is by no means a tablet. Sort of like a heavy tablet.

HetfieldJ 02-07-2013 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by merlin803 (Post 57430592)
Doesn't the i7 machines usually test higher in graphics performance also, even with the same graphics chip?

Of course they will. When you're testing, you can even tell 50 performance differences between i3 530 and 550.

yuanz90 02-07-2013 10:10 AM

man i'm really on the edge for the plunge but I just can't look over the cons of such an expensive machine. mediocre battery life, terrible trackpad, kind of heavy for a 12". If i'm paying near the $1000 range I expect perfection!

merlin803 02-07-2013 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yuanz90 (Post 57430962)
man i'm really on the edge for the plunge but I just can't look over the cons of such an expensive machine. mediocre battery life, terrible trackpad, kind of heavy for a 12". If i'm paying near the $1000 range I expect perfection!

I was really hoping to get something with a great battery life too but when I saw that even the Surface Pro wasn't much better, and every "laptop/tablet" form factor seems to have similar battery life.....

I guess at this time, it is either a choice between a regular ultraportable laptop with great battery life or a laptop/tablet convertible.

I really wanted the "tablet" option so I'll live with charging almost daily (which I pretty much do with my iPad and iPhone also).

samsingla 02-07-2013 10:32 AM

Alright people, just checked the status again and it is showing shipped :)

yuanz90 02-07-2013 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by merlin803 (Post 57431216)
I was really hoping to get something with a great battery life too but when I saw that even the Surface Pro wasn't much better, and every "laptop/tablet" form factor seems to have similar battery life.....

I guess at this time, it is either a choice between a regular ultraportable laptop with great battery life or a laptop/tablet convertible.

I really wanted the "tablet" option so I'll live with charging almost daily (which I pretty much do with my iPad and iPhone also).

yeah that's true, I was about to get that XPS 14 deal but I figured I should probably future-proof myself with a touchscreen windows 8 device

TidalWaveOne 02-07-2013 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chong67 (Post 57430676)
This is by no means a tablet. Sort of like a heavy tablet.

A heavy tablet IS a tablet. :)

mva5580 02-07-2013 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TidalWaveOne (Post 57432540)
A heavy tablet IS a tablet. :)

I just got back from Fry's Electronics and I checked out a few that have comparable size/weight specs, like the Yoga. They weigh pretty much the same, and the XPS is about a half inch smaller in terms of width/length. The X230 was also there, which is around a half inch smaller than the XPS both ways.

I really don't think weight is going to be a problem for me, it didn't feel that bad at all. Yes it's obviously heavier than an iPad, but it's not like this is a device I'm going to be holding in one hand for an hour straight, I NEVER do that with my iPad anyway. I'm either sitting on the couch, or laying in bed. And one of the things that I actually think is really cool about this device is that it already has a really good built-in stand for tablet mode....the keyboard base. So really if you're sitting in any way where you can use the base, you should rarely even have to worry about holding it when it comes to tablet mode.

I'm pretty excited to get it, I'm just anxious to see how the battery holds up. I wouldn't call myself a "heavy" user, so I'm hoping that the battery holds up for my uses. I have no doubts that it will get eaten quick when I try to do things like play a game on it, but really overall it should suit my purposes fine. If you're someone who is going to use a device in a way that it needs to be on for 5 hours+ straight, then I would really hope you were close to a wall plug and not have to worry about the battery in the first place. All I know is $1,120 for this well-built device with 8gb of RAM and a 256gb SSD is a hell of a deal. And if I absolutely hate it for whatever reason, it's defective, etc, I have 21 days to return it.

greggster 02-07-2013 12:57 PM

I just ordered one (i5 4GB) this morning, shows estimated delivery of 2/13. Haven't seen another in stock all day.

exiled1 02-07-2013 01:19 PM

so how much are we saving by buying used here? some of you seem a little too excited...


It could mean a good deal, but seen a lot of you go crazy over some POS titanium rings even though this place puts them on FP almost weekly...yeah it makes zero sense...

the herd mentality grows strong on this site, one needs to be careful here these days...just sayin':drool:

not saying this is a bad deal, just asking how much I would save over shopping around and getting the normal, new item discounts...thanks

greggster 02-07-2013 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greggster (Post 57434912)
I just ordered one (i5 4GB) this morning, shows estimated delivery of 2/13. Haven't seen another in stock all day.

all models back in stock

Stickboy46 02-07-2013 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by exiled1 (Post 57435500)
so how much are we saving by buying used here? some of you seem a little too excited...


It could mean a good deal, but seen a lot of you go crazy over some POS titanium rings even though this place puts them on FP almost weekly...yeah it makes zero sense...

the herd mentality grows strong on this site, one needs to be careful here these days...just sayin':drool:

not saying this is a bad deal, just asking how much I would save over shopping around and getting the normal, new item discounts...thanks

The one i bought was 1700 retail, i got for 1150 ish. So a pretty drastic difference that i doubt you will see new pricing get anywhere close to that

And Dell refurbished != Used. They come with the same warranty and support that a new one would

mwwilliams 02-07-2013 01:25 PM

Just called about one of these when it said out of stock and she had 7 left and offered the i5, 8GB, 256GB SSD for $1039 after a 20% discount. Should I have gotten it?

exiled1 02-07-2013 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stickboy46 (Post 57435536)
The one i bought was 1700 retail, i got for 1150 ish. So a pretty drastic difference that i doubt you will see new pricing get anywhere close to that

And Dell refurbished != Used. They come with the same warranty and support that a new one would


yeah, I am not against purchasing this way, I purchased my desktop from Dell refurb'ed in a similar deal..it's used, call it what you want but it is what it is...I did have problems with the first two, but they did take care of it..

Any way, not seeing any in stock, I did see a couple when I first came upon this thread but they weren't what i had wanted...

and who pays retail for anything???

Stickboy46 02-07-2013 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mwwilliams (Post 57435660)
Just called about one of these when it said out of stock and she had 7 left and offered the i5, 8GB, 256GB SSD for $1039 after a 20% discount. Should I have gotten it?

YOU CALLED??????????? OMGWTFBBQ

Just kidding ha, that looks like a pretty good deal. I paid about 100 more for the i7

mwwilliams 02-07-2013 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stickboy46 (Post 57436128)
YOU CALLED??????????? OMGWTFBBQ

Just kidding ha, that looks like a pretty good deal. I paid about 100 more for the i7

I asked several times for an i7 but didn't have any so....now I wonder if I should have pulled the trigger.....

seventh_wonder 02-07-2013 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by exiled1 (Post 57435500)
so how much are we saving by buying used here? some of you seem a little too excited...


It could mean a good deal, but seen a lot of you go crazy over some POS titanium rings even though this place puts them on FP almost weekly...yeah it makes zero sense...

the herd mentality grows strong on this site, one needs to be careful here these days...just sayin':drool:

not saying this is a bad deal, just asking how much I would save over shopping around and getting the normal, new item discounts...thanks

um....

Step 1) go to the XPS 12 page on Dell's site, record the price
Step 2) go to the Dell Outlet page and select XPS 12, record the price (or read this thread to see the prices people are getting the systems for)
Step 3) compare numbers to find out how much you would be saving.

stubbornboy 02-07-2013 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by exiled1 (Post 57435500)
so how much are we saving by buying used here? some of you seem a little too excited...


It could mean a good deal, but seen a lot of you go crazy over some POS titanium rings even though this place puts them on FP almost weekly...yeah it makes zero sense...

the herd mentality grows strong on this site, one needs to be careful here these days...just sayin':drool:

not saying this is a bad deal, just asking how much I would save over shopping around and getting the normal, new item discounts...thanks

I think even with the best ever coupon an xps12 brand new from Dell is several hundreds more expensive than refurb from the outlet at this price.

I wouldn't necessarily call all refurbs used. Some are units returned w/o opening(shipment refused etc.).

mva5580 02-07-2013 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by exiled1 (Post 57435500)
so how much are we saving by buying used here? some of you seem a little too excited...


It could mean a good deal, but seen a lot of you go crazy over some POS titanium rings even though this place puts them on FP almost weekly...yeah it makes zero sense...

the herd mentality grows strong on this site, one needs to be careful here these days...just sayin':drool:

not saying this is a bad deal, just asking how much I would save over shopping around and getting the normal, new item discounts...thanks

Maybe you should research it yourself before you ask questions in a condescending manner like that?

The exact model that I bought is $1,616.39 total if bought new. I got it for $1,117. And as someone else mentioned a "refurbished" Dell product has the same terms attached to it as a new product.

If you don't think that a $500 discount is worthwhile, I guess we just disagree.

merlin803 02-07-2013 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mva5580 (Post 57436758)
Maybe you should research it yourself before you ask questions in a condescending manner like that?

The exact model that I bought is $1,616.39 total if bought new. I got it for $1,117. And as someone else mentioned a "refurbished" Dell product has the same terms attached to it as a new product.

If you don't think that a $500 discount is worthwhile, I guess we just disagree.

Yep. My budget was about $800-1000 to get a laptop/tablet. lAs of last week, I thought it would be the base i5 Yoga at about $1060 but for the same price I got the XPS 12 i7 with double the ram and a better screen, so yeah, it is a deal to me.

art404 02-07-2013 02:49 PM

shipped! i7/256/8 purchased on 2/5/13 and delivery tomorrow !!! ;)

Demiurge 02-07-2013 03:10 PM

I'm wondering if my Dell has been In Production for about 36 hours now, am I even getting a refurbished model?

Why would they have to physically produce a laptop if I ordered refurbished?

Anyways, expected delivery : 2/14/2013

TidalWaveOne 02-07-2013 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by art404 (Post 57437702)
shipped! i7/256/8 purchased on 2/5/13 and delivery tomorrow !!! ;)

Nice... where are these things shipping from?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demiurge (Post 57438206)
I'm wondering if my Dell has been In Production for about 36 hours now, am I even getting a refurbished model?

Why would they have to physically produce a laptop if I ordered refurbished?

Anyways, expected delivery : 2/14/2013

My assumption is it's being tested.... I hope they find and address any issues that these may have.

ScottOH 02-07-2013 03:37 PM

I'd be all over this if it had a discrete video card. The HD 4000 is ok, but for 900+ dollars it's a shame it doesn't have one.

A decent deal, but there will be better with Surface coming out, I think.

samsingla 02-07-2013 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vandetta (Post 57390618)
1) Yes but it requires taking out about 11 tiny screws that strip easily. It uses msata which looks like a wifi card.
2) http://www.theverge.com/2012/11/2...-12-review 4:33 hr
3) It has the Intel HD Graphics 4000 which is decent I guess. Handles 1080 vids no problem on xbmc and the games on the windows store.

I'll be updating the ssd on my unit. Can you please tell me how did you install the OS on the new drive? Does the laptop come with recovery discs or partition that I can use for the installation?

samsingla 02-07-2013 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TidalWaveOne (Post 57438248)
Nice... where are these things shipping from?

Nashville, TN

Joe1199 02-07-2013 04:47 PM

Woohoo order shipped, delivery 2/11

canknee 02-07-2013 04:49 PM

great deal!

Stickboy46 02-07-2013 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by art404 (Post 57437702)
shipped! i7/256/8 purchased on 2/5/13 and delivery tomorrow !!! ;)

Ordered the same on 2/5 and still hasn't shipped

Revx 02-07-2013 05:38 PM

I had nicked an i7 last night, fearing I wouldn't see stock in time to use the coupon and then saw an equivalent i5 this morning (8gb, 256gb just like the i7 build) so I figured I'd do a swap and save myself the $150. Only this was at 7:15CST and the call center (as I found out) doesn't open until 8am CST. Since I had to leave for work, I stuck the i5 in my cart, found a chrome extension to refresh the page every 5 minutes so it'd stay reserved and then proceeded to cancel the i7 and order the i5 when I got to work about an hour later. (Technology is fun.) Good deal.

ChubbyTime 02-07-2013 09:05 PM

My i7/256/8gb finally shipped. I ordered it on the 5th and it was intially scheduled to be delivered on the 11th, but it got delayed to the 13th.

TidalWaveOne 02-07-2013 09:08 PM

Mine says shipped now!

mva5580 02-07-2013 09:10 PM

Shipped, whoo hoo! 2/13 delivery date.

samsingla 02-08-2013 04:29 AM

Back in stock. Keep refreshing.
Also note that the coupon expire today.

thehip420 02-08-2013 05:57 AM

Mine shipped, original delivery date. Why did they even send the delayed email? LOL

TidalWaveOne 02-08-2013 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thehip420 (Post 57448002)
Why did they even send the delayed email? LOL

Maybe so they could exceed our expectations. :lol:

brucehf 02-08-2013 06:37 AM

went through whole order process on phone, then told that Dell Business Credit cannot be used to buy something from Dell Outlet, for a $1000 order figured they would figure out a way to make that work, but they let me just hang up without ordering

httrung 02-08-2013 07:16 AM

coupon seem be dead now

Joe1199 02-08-2013 07:49 AM

Anyone who got in on this deal upgrading to Windows 8 pro??? I see the system came with regular windows 8, i'm not really sure on the added benefit on the Pro version. Any input appreaciated thanks

Stickboy46 02-08-2013 07:58 AM

Both of my i7/8gb/256gb ones shipped this morning! And I'll be picking up my Surface Pro tomorrow!! Gonna be a good week.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe1199 (Post 57450060)
Anyone who got in on this deal upgrading to Windows 8 pro??? I see the system came with regular windows 8, i'm not really sure on the added benefit on the Pro version. Any input appreaciated thanks

I will be on both of mine, but only because I have a couple of copies of Win 8 Pro laying around that i got for free.

samsingla 02-08-2013 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stickboy46 (Post 57450272)
Both of my i7/8gb/256gb ones shipped this morning! And I'll be picking up my Surface Pro tomorrow!! Gonna be a good week.



I will be on both of mine, but only because I have a couple of copies of Win 8 Pro laying around that i got for free.

I will be too. Both the SSD and the OS. I got the Pro version with the Win 7 upgrade offer. My laptop will reach local fedex location this evening. Too bad they won't allow for a pick up over the weekend. It will be the longest weekend of the year lol

yuanz90 02-08-2013 08:23 AM

they seem to have more in stock every morning

Stickboy46 02-08-2013 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by samsingla (Post 57450650)
I will be too. Both the SSD and the OS. I got the Pro version with the Win 7 upgrade offer. My laptop will reach local fedex location this evening. Too bad they won't allow for a pick up over the weekend. It will be the longest weekend of the year lol

Yea, i had gotten 2 copies through a training site for Win 8 Pro, so it works out perfect for me.

Thankfully both of mine wont be here until Tuesday .. and I'm picking up my Surface Pro in store tomorrow so I'll be held over.

Quote:

Originally Posted by yuanz90 (Post 57450782)
they seem to have more in stock every morning

That is to be expected .. its a refurbished item. As items get returned they add them in .

mandylisa 02-08-2013 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by samsingla (Post 57450650)
I will be too. Both the SSD and the OS. I got the Pro version with the Win 7 upgrade offer. My laptop will reach local fedex location this evening. Too bad they won't allow for a pick up over the weekend. It will be the longest weekend of the year lol

I just chatted with cs at dell. The coupon ended at 8:59am. Weird.

Joe1199 02-08-2013 08:30 AM

ok next question, any of you know of a cheap upgrade to pro or want to sell one of your extras if your not using? :)

samsingla 02-08-2013 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mandylisa (Post 57450810)
I just chatted with cs at dell. The coupon ended at 8:59am. Weird.

Updated wiki. Thank you.

Stickboy46 02-08-2013 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe1199 (Post 57450960)
ok next question, any of you know of a cheap upgrade to pro or want to sell one of your extras if your not using? :)

https://www.windowsupgradeoffer.c...gistration

You can try that. I believe they extended it until february 28th, 2013. It says you have to buy a PC to get it, but they dont check it. You get an email with a code that discounts the upgrade to 14.99

Center 02-08-2013 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe1199 (Post 57450960)
ok next question, any of you know of a cheap upgrade to pro or want to sell one of your extras if your not using? :)

I might, are you in the LA area? I bought Windows 8 Pro during that Amazon $30 GC special. So I got it for roughly $30 + tax/shipping. If you're in LA, I can sell it to you for a reasonable price. If not, I'll likely be putting it on ebay.

Joe1199 02-08-2013 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Center (Post 57451238)
I might, are you in the LA area? I bought Windows 8 Pro during that Amazon $30 GC special. So I got it for roughly $30 + tax/shipping. If you're in LA, I can sell it to you for a reasonable price. If not, I'll likely be putting it on ebay.

appreaciate it, unfortunatly i'm on the other side of the country, South Fl.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stickboy46 (Post 57451190)
https://www.windowsupgradeoffer.c...gistration

You can try that. I believe they extended it until february 28th, 2013. It says you have to buy a PC to get it, but they dont check it. You get an email with a code that discounts the upgrade to 14.99

Awesome thanks I'll look into that!

seventh_wonder 02-08-2013 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brucehf (Post 57448692)
went through whole order process on phone, then told that Dell Business Credit cannot be used to buy something from Dell Outlet, for a $1000 order figured they would figure out a way to make that work, but they let me just hang up without ordering

vice versa as well, you can't use a regular consumer Dell credit account to make a business purchase either.

seventh_wonder 02-08-2013 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe1199 (Post 57450060)
Anyone who got in on this deal upgrading to Windows 8 pro??? I see the system came with regular windows 8, i'm not really sure on the added benefit on the Pro version. Any input appreaciated thanks

some of the systems did come with pro.
benefits are more for enterprise/corporate setups. no real added benefit for the normal user....unless you have a domain at home or have a need for bitlocker.

Demiurge 02-08-2013 09:25 AM

Order is shipped, will arrive 2/12/2013. Earlier than expected.

Hope everything is perfect with it, would hate to have to use the 21 day return policy!

SlvrFox 02-08-2013 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe1199 (Post 57450060)
Anyone who got in on this deal upgrading to Windows 8 pro??? I see the system came with regular windows 8, i'm not really sure on the added benefit on the Pro version. Any input appreaciated thanks

Quote:

Originally Posted by seventh_wonder (Post 57451784)
some of the systems did come with pro.
benefits are more for enterprise/corporate setups. no real added benefit for the normal user....unless you have a domain at home or have a need for bitlocker.

or if you want to add Win Media Center.

Although you can get the $14.95 Win8 Pro Upgrade & then Free WMC Code, instead of paying $70($56 AC) extra.;)

kskreider 02-08-2013 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by niczon (Post 57406444)
Those 6400's are great. I just upgraded the harddrive in my Dell 6400 to the sandisk extreme SSD a few months ago and the thing works great, just under 30 second boot-up time from cold. Application loading is quick too.

Well, I typed my reply too soon. My 6400 died today. Bad HDD sectors. Shoulda, coulda, woulda...

Joe1199 02-08-2013 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlvrFox (Post 57452430)
or if you want to add Win Media Center.

Although you can get the $14.95 Win8 Pro Upgrade & then Free WMC Code, instead of paying $70($56 AC) extra.;)

Yes i got the 14.99 win8 pro upgrade from the link provided in another post; however where do you get the Free WMC code?

novatian 02-08-2013 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mandylisa (Post 57450810)
I just chatted with cs at dell. The coupon ended at 8:59am. Weird.

Dangit... I should have pulled the trigger 3 days ago when I had it in my cart... now they are all showing in stock again because the coupon is finished. Hoping another coupon emerges soon :)

SlvrFox 02-08-2013 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe1199 (Post 57452780)
Yes i got the 14.99 win8 pro upgrade from the link provided in another post; however where do you get the Free WMC code?

Joe,
You have to beg for one here:
http://slickdeals.net/f/5828438-S...-ACTIVATE?

But you'll get one after awhile, don't be shy :shake:

Don't use one that they show in posts,(problems) as too many grab it, PM someone just for a private code, much safer. ;)
SF

Bitech 02-08-2013 01:46 PM

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I better not be missing out here! Everyone's getting the Core i7 config while I'm getting only the i5... Really though, if frequency and cache size are the only differences why is everyone getting the Core i7? What are you all planning to do with the XPS 12??

Btw I checked my order: it actually shipped yesterday and is estimated to be delivered on Tuesday the 12th down from Friday the 15th! And they haven't even sent me an email yet LOL!!

I'm guessing Dell wants to exceed the expectations of us Slickdealers :]

As for battery life I'm not sure what you're all compaining about. According to NoteBookcheck's review
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Revi...325.0.html

The XPS 12 has over 9 hours at idle
Over 5 hours with web browsing
And Over an hour with full load.

And have you even seen the battery? It's 47 Wh and it takes up ~2/3 of the entire XPS's innards.
The convertible has a 86% battery rating.

Please show me a Intel Core-powered convertible with longer battery life.
Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottOH (Post 57438606)
I'd be all over this if it had a discrete video card. The HD 4000 is ok, but for 900+ dollars it's a shame it doesn't have one.

A decent deal, but there will be better with Surface coming out, I think.

If you just get the base configuration (Core i5, 128 SSD, 4 GB Memory) with this deal it should come to only $899.67 :)

The Surface Pro isn't going to have discrete graphics or a Core i7 config, base price is already $899.

If you want a gaming ultrabook/tablet convertible this isn't for you. You should get the Gigabyte Booktop T1125N. Nice convertible with Nvidia graphics :)

Or you can stupid for the Razer Edge.

BeerBellyBob 02-08-2013 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bitech (Post 57458376)
I better not be missing out here! Everyone's getting the Core i7 config while I'm getting only the i5... Really though, if frequency and cache size are the only differences why is everyone getting the Core i7? What are you all planning to do with the XPS 12??

I don't get it either. They are both only dual-core. I'm not planning on doing any heavy number crunching on this thing. And the i5 might give me a tiny bit more battery time.

antec5150 02-08-2013 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeerBellyBob (Post 57459534)
I don't get it either. They are both only dual-core. I'm not planning on doing any heavy number crunching on this thing. And the i5 might give me a tiny bit more battery time.

The i5 is fine and the i7 really isn't much of an upgrade because it's also only dual core.The 8gb of RAM option would have been a nice upgrade especially because it's not user upgradeble. (soldered onto the board)

SlvrFox 02-08-2013 04:41 PM

Expired!
 
Deleted AM not PM :(

cnk 02-08-2013 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlvrFox (Post 57461768)
Coupon Error



We're sorry, the coupon code you have entered has already expired or has reached the maximum redemption limit.

Read the wiki. . deal/coupon is dead.

SlvrFox 02-08-2013 04:42 PM

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drymonkey 02-08-2013 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlvrFox (Post 57461796)
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Didn't you already jump on that sweet dell xps 13 from last time:P:D

art404 02-09-2013 06:52 AM

did anybody have problems with overheating left side of the bezel ? I think mine is going back to dell ;(

samsingla 02-09-2013 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by art404 (Post 57470058)
did anybody have problems with overheating left side of the bezel ? I think mine is going back to dell ;(

Bummer :( I receive mine on Monday, I hope it's not an universal problem.

Can u please tell me if the laptop comes with recovery discs or a hidden recovery partition? I'm planning to upgrade the ssd, just want to know my options for reinstalling the OS.

Other than the heating issue, how do u like it so far?

Bayman48 02-09-2013 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by samsingla (Post 57470312)
Bummer :( I receive mine on Monday, I hope it's not an universal problem.

Can u please tell me if the laptop comes with recovery discs or a hidden recovery partition? I'm planning to upgrade the ssd, just want to know my options for reinstalling the OS.

Other than the heating issue, how do u like it so far?

i got mine from the deal a couple of weeks ago when home outlet had their coupons then...and mine came with the window recovery disc. Also, i have not noticed a heating issue on mine....mine is the I5 with 4gb of ram and for what i do, its fine.

SlvrFox 02-09-2013 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drymonkey (Post 57467776)
Didn't you already jump on that sweet dell xps 13 from last time:P:D

Yup, collect 'em.............. 8 recent models(all w/Win8 Pro) (Lappys, AIOs, & DTs) & counting. :D
(Not counting the Tabs):P

When I get tired of them, I'll sell them.
(& buy more):eek:

samsingla 02-09-2013 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bayman48 (Post 57470478)
i got mine from the deal a couple of weeks ago when home outlet had their coupons then...and mine came with the window recovery disc. Also, i have not noticed a heating issue on mine....mine is the I5 with 4gb of ram and for what i do, its fine.

Thank you

zoro 02-09-2013 09:46 AM

I guess now coupon not workbt

jnads 02-09-2013 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bitech (Post 57458376)
I better not be missing out here! Everyone's getting the Core i7 config while I'm getting only the i5... Really though, if frequency and cache size are the only differences why is everyone getting the Core i7? What are you all planning to do with the XPS 12??

Don't worry, a laptop this small, there's no way it can deal with the i7's thermal profile.


Even notebookcheck.net noted the i7 thermal-throttled in their review.

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Revi...325.0.html

jnads 02-09-2013 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by couponhunter (Post 57427666)
I am going with a Yoga. But here are my pros and cons.

Yoga 13:
Pros
- Upgradable RAM (to 8GB)
- Second slot for a SATA drive, so you can have two HDDs
- HDMI port (that's not in Yoga)
- Supposedly the battery can be replaced
Cons
- Keyboard is at the bottom when in tablet mode. Though Lenovo has a cover for it for $40.
- Fan runs all the time
- No backlit keyboard

XPS 12
Pros
- 1080p resolution, 400 nit screen compared to 900p and 300nit of Yoga
- Backlit keyboard, which is not in Yoga
- Supposedly built better than Yoga, but that's subjective
Cons
- More expensive than Yoga
- 12.5" Screen (0.8" smaller than Yoga)
- Non upgradable RAM
- No HDMI port, but a mini-display port
- Hard drive is bit harder to remove, but if you have some mechanical skills you can do it

Seems like a contrived list.

-More expensive is arbitrary. The i5, 128GB Yoga refurb deal was the same $$$ as this XPS 12 deal with the same specs.
-12.5" screen, some see that as a plus
-Display Port is more future-proof, and you can convert to HDMI with an adapter. Unfortunately, there is no conversion from HDMI -> Displayport. This is a plus. Somehow you listed Display Port as a con?

The only con you missed was the XPS12 is 0.2" thicker.

couponhunter 02-09-2013 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jnads (Post 57473734)
Seems like a contrived list.

Yes, I am biased towards Yoga, but prove me wrong.
Quote:

Originally Posted by jnads (Post 57473734)
-More expensive is arbitrary. The i5, 128GB Yoga refurb deal was the same $$$ as this XPS 12 deal with the same specs.

Yoga was $791+tax
XPS 12 is $831+tax
Ok, so for you, $40 isn't much.
Quote:

Originally Posted by jnads (Post 57473734)
-12.5" screen, some see that as a plus

12.5" is too big to be a tablet. And with the same laptop weight, what plus is there?
Quote:

Originally Posted by jnads (Post 57473734)
-Display Port is more future-proof, and you can convert to HDMI with an adapter. Unfortunately, there is no conversion from HDMI -> Displayport. This is a plus. Somehow you listed Display Port as a con?

HDMI to Display port Cable
Code:

http://www.amazon.com/6feet-Displayport-male-HDmi-male-Adapter-Cable/dp/B001TUZ6EU/ref=sr_1_5?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1360439787&sr=1-5&keywords=hdmi+to+displayport
Btw, I have broken 2 display port to HDMI adapters in the past as well. And I know others that have as well.
Quote:

Originally Posted by jnads (Post 57473734)
The only con you missed was the XPS12 is 0.2" thicker.

Sure. If XPS 12 was upgradable like Yoga (battery, two hard drive slots, memory), and had a HDMI, I would go for it.


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