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mr!gogo 02-05-2013 08:46 PM

Nexus 4 for 84.99@ letstalk
 
Could find a post for this. Not sure if this indeed is a good deal.

http://www.letstalk.com/t-mobile-google-nexus-4

Also droid-life notes TALK4TEN gives $8.50 off

DanCar 02-05-2013 08:50 PM

Your better off buying without a contract and using pay as you go with lower monthly service fee.

dandaman1219 02-05-2013 08:51 PM

Any contract 'deal' for the Nexus 4 is not a good deal.

tspx23 02-05-2013 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dandaman1219 (Post 57396046)
Any contract 'deal' for the Nexus 4 is not a good deal.

thers a code to bump this down to 75.

That's a savings of about 320 after taxes over a period of two years...

Considering the value plan for a line is 69.99 for two years versus 79.99 with this deal you would actually be saving 80 bucks in a two year period.

If your on a family plan or something I guess you would be right.

wirelessfreak 02-05-2013 09:02 PM

Although I'm not a fan of contract phones, this deal is WAY better than other phone deals, especially that this phone is always out of stock. I've got an unlocked one, and can attest to its awesome abilities

Thanks OP

oyouno 02-05-2013 09:10 PM

Everyone is still better off buying it without a contract..
But I guess this is currently the best ON contract deal on the N4. so the deal gets a thumbs up.

So if you love contracts, then I guess get this. You will be paying more money over 24months though over a similar plan and buying it off contract.
(around 2190 on contract vs 1060 to 1600 depending on if u pick a 30/40/50 month plan)

phone 340 (8gb from play store)
30 plan x 24 = 720 = 1060 total cost over 2 years.
40 plan x 24 = 960 = 1300
50 plan x 24 = 1200 = 1540


Also remember that 79.99 will have around 10% in taxes/fees monthly making it closer to 88-90/month.

BobCoxner 02-05-2013 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wirelessfreak (Post 57396242)
Although I'm not a fan of contract phones, this deal is WAY better than other phone deals, especially that this phone is always out of stock. I've got an unlocked one, and can attest to its awesome abilities

Thanks OP

It's been out of stock in the past but it's in stock currently and has been for about a week.

BobCoxner 02-05-2013 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tspx23 (Post 57396114)
thers a code to bump this down to 75.

That's a savings of about 320 after taxes over a period of two years...

Considering the value plan for a line is 69.99 for two years versus 79.99 with this deal you would actually be saving 80 bucks in a two year period.

If your on a family plan or something I guess you would be right.

The savings difference depends on the plan. A lot of people like to go for the $30 a month TMo plan (100 mins, 5gb data). Buying off-contract plus $30 a month is MUCH cheaper than this deal, although the $30 plan is obviously designed more for people into data than minutes. If you need the minutes, and don't mind a contract, this is not a bad deal.

Here's a curious number...I clicked the option for "Phone only - no contract changes" and the quoted price is $549!!! That's a hefty surcharge for a phone you can buy for $299 from Google or anyone else. It does have free shipping. :-)

wirelessfreak 02-05-2013 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BobCoxner (Post 57396422)
It's been out of stock in the past but it's in stock currently and has been for about a week.

True, but this has been the longest it's been in stock. Based the fact that the shipping time has gone up, it won't last for more than an other week or so.

I blame LG for this issue. Too many people just want to say "shut up and take my money", but this is far worse than apple "shortages"

tspx23 02-05-2013 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BobCoxner (Post 57396482)
The savings difference depends on the plan. A lot of people like to go for the $30 a month TMo plan (100 mins, 5gb data). Buying off-contract plus $30 a month is MUCH cheaper than this deal, although the $30 plan is obviously designed more for people into data than minutes. If you need the minutes, and don't mind a contract, this is not a bad deal.

+1 not terrible but for most slickdealers it is. We have 4 lines and pay 100 a month after taxes w. unlim text/calls + limited data.


But if someone truly needs unlimited everything I guess this is a decent deal.

lordoff 02-05-2013 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tspx23 (Post 57397510)
+1 not terrible but for most slickdealers it is. We have 4 lines and pay 100 a month after taxes w. unlim text/calls + limited data.


But if someone truly needs unlimited everything I guess this is a decent deal.


you can't beat a grandfathered plan, SDer or not. (unless you can find a time machine)

JimboLodisC 02-06-2013 07:19 AM

Better than paying $199 on contract, I'd call this a slick deal.

That said, it's an even slicker deal to get it from the Play Store and hop onto the $30/month plan (which is what I did). Only problem is you only get 100 minutes and no roaming, but coming from an $80/month Sprint plan I've pretty much gotten the phone to pay for itself.

slsp 02-07-2013 11:17 AM

Forgive the noob question, but if i purchase this device from letstalk and never activate the plan and just want to use it as a mini-tablet with WIFI, can i do that? Thanks in advance

WingsOfF 02-07-2013 12:29 PM

I realize that for many a contract plan is a deal with the devil and in many cases it is. However, one should look at their own requirements to make the best deal for them.

There are many scenarios in which buying a subsidized phone makes economic practical sense:

1. You have a great grandfathered plan that works for you and they are willing to extend the same plan with a heavily subsidized phone that you need.
2. The restrictions on pre-paid plans in coverage and data allowances make it impractical for you to get the pre-paid. For example, here are the links to the respective coverages for the T-Mobile pre-paid and post-paid contract plans which may make a difference to you:

http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.co...d-coverage

http://www.t-mobile.com/coverage/pcc.aspx/

The difference is the most stark in data coverage that you need for a phone like this and pre-paid plans in most cases do not allow roaming on another carrier. Again, this is something that needs to be considered for each case.

3. The phone is likely to get obsolete by 2 years.
For example, the N4 does not support LTE (don't know if the chip inside but disabled). In two years, LTE will be the norm. Or the S3 does not have NFC. In two years, NFC might become almost a necessary part of daily life from grocery checkouts to library badges. While the reasonable price of the N4 unlocked has less risk from obsolesence, buying other high-end phones paying $500-$600 is as bad as any bad contract phone because you will not amortize that phone over 2 years and will have to keep it much longer while being less useful. This is partiularly true of smartphones unlike the voice and text phones of earlier.

4. You can use an existing relationship for even better subsidies. For example, as a previous customer of T Mobile, I got them to give me the N4 for -$10 (yes negative) with credits. Buying the phone for $349+tax and taking the TMobile value plan would have cost me at least $349 - $120 (in savings over current plan). Pre-paid was not an option for me because of my data usage and roaming requirements. Most of the MVNOs have a lot of explicit and implicit gotchas in their plans, especially for data. There is no free lunch.

I expect I will want to replace this phone in two years. So, I wanted the minimum expense to get a new phone and this situation worked the best for my requirements.

For a first time subscriber to TMobile make sure their service works for you, and if it does the cheapest plan that makes sense with a contract and compare it to the alternative of buying the phone for $249 and the plans you can actually get and their caveats. Given the rapid advances in smartphones at the moment, try to minimize the expense for any new phone even if you can afford it.

Bottom line: Keep an open mind and think of what your requirements are, how long the phone is likely useful to you, what the caveats of any plan (contract or not) and make a decision. No generalizations can be made.

Combs 02-07-2013 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BobCoxner (Post 57396482)
The savings difference depends on the plan. A lot of people like to go for the $30 a month TMo plan (100 mins, 5gb data). Buying off-contract plus $30 a month is MUCH cheaper than this deal, although the $30 plan is obviously designed more for people into data than minutes. If you need the minutes, and don't mind a contract, this is not a bad deal.

Do you have a link to the 100 mins and 5gb deal? I bought this phone and got it today and am using it on straight talk(through tmobile tho) but that deal sounds perfect for me. Unlimited texts or just downloading an app for texts? Either way please send a link.

KingVizio 02-07-2013 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slsp (Post 57432512)
Forgive the noob question, but if i purchase this device from letstalk and never activate the plan and just want to use it as a mini-tablet with WIFI, can i do that? Thanks in advance

You have to get a 2 year contract or they want $550 for just the phone.

WingsOfF 02-08-2013 02:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Combs (Post 57444828)
Do you have a link to the 100 mins and 5gb deal? I bought this phone and got it today and am using it on straight talk(through tmobile tho) but that deal sounds perfect for me. Unlimited texts or just downloading an app for texts? Either way please send a link.

http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.co...y-4g-plans

BobCoxner 02-08-2013 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Combs (Post 57444828)
Do you have a link to the 100 mins and 5gb deal? I bought this phone and got it today and am using it on straight talk(through tmobile tho) but that deal sounds perfect for me. Unlimited texts or just downloading an app for texts? Either way please send a link.

You can get the $30 deal at Walmart or online at TMo.

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Tmobile...d/15443357

You get HSPA+ speeds up to 5gb then you get throttled to EDGE speed from that point on each month.

You need a new sim, you can't use your existing one. Check with TMo but I believe you would lose your existing phone number.

The Walmart notes say you need a phone purchased at Walmart. That's not true, although if you don't have a Walmart phone you need to set up the account directly with TMo, it can't be done in-store.

If you need more details, here's a Slickdeals thread with 5000+ posts. The Wiki contains most of what you need. http://slickdeals.net/f/3377172-T...ation-Only

DrSandbags 02-08-2013 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WingsOfF (Post 57434268)
I realize that for many a contract plan is a deal with the devil and in many cases it is. However, one should look at their own requirements to make the best deal for them.

There are many scenarios in which buying a subsidized phone makes economic practical sense:

1. You have a great grandfathered plan that works for you and they are willing to extend the same plan with a heavily subsidized phone that you need.
2. The restrictions on pre-paid plans in coverage and data allowances make it impractical for you to get the pre-paid. For example, here are the links to the respective coverages for the T-Mobile pre-paid and post-paid contract plans which may make a difference to you:

http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.co...d-coverage

http://www.t-mobile.com/coverage/pcc.aspx/

The difference is the most stark in data coverage that you need for a phone like this and pre-paid plans in most cases do not allow roaming on another carrier. Again, this is something that needs to be considered for each case.

3. The phone is likely to get obsolete by 2 years.
For example, the N4 does not support LTE (don't know if the chip inside but disabled). In two years, LTE will be the norm. Or the S3 does not have NFC. In two years, NFC might become almost a necessary part of daily life from grocery checkouts to library badges. While the reasonable price of the N4 unlocked has less risk from obsolesence, buying other high-end phones paying $500-$600 is as bad as any bad contract phone because you will not amortize that phone over 2 years and will have to keep it much longer while being less useful. This is partiularly true of smartphones unlike the voice and text phones of earlier.

4. You can use an existing relationship for even better subsidies. For example, as a previous customer of T Mobile, I got them to give me the N4 for -$10 (yes negative) with credits. Buying the phone for $349+tax and taking the TMobile value plan would have cost me at least $349 - $120 (in savings over current plan). Pre-paid was not an option for me because of my data usage and roaming requirements. Most of the MVNOs have a lot of explicit and implicit gotchas in their plans, especially for data. There is no free lunch.

I expect I will want to replace this phone in two years. So, I wanted the minimum expense to get a new phone and this situation worked the best for my requirements.

For a first time subscriber to TMobile make sure their service works for you, and if it does the cheapest plan that makes sense with a contract and compare it to the alternative of buying the phone for $249 and the plans you can actually get and their caveats. Given the rapid advances in smartphones at the moment, try to minimize the expense for any new phone even if you can afford it.

Bottom line: Keep an open mind and think of what your requirements are, how long the phone is likely useful to you, what the caveats of any plan (contract or not) and make a decision. No generalizations can be made.


On-contract T-Mobile plans are $80-90/month for their basic plans with data. Compared to the $30/month prepaid, that's a $1200 difference over 2 years. Assuming that one uses less than 100mins of talk per month anyway and doesn't expect to go outside the service area, why does phone cost matter at all here? You would have to buy a phone for $1200 off-contract vs getting it for $0 on-contract with no resale value to make the prepaid equal in cost to the contract.

"In two years, NFC might become almost a necessary part of daily life from grocery checkouts to library badges."

I highly, highly doubt this considering the number of people aged 60+ who don't currently have smartphones let alone those equipped with NFC and the number of people who are not computer-savvy. People still write checks at the grocery store. Libraries cater to low-income people (i.e. those without even a cell phone).

WingsOfF 02-08-2013 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrSandbags (Post 57450424)
On-contract T-Mobile plans are $80-90/month for their basic plans with data. Compared to the $30/month prepaid, that's a $1200 difference over 2 years. Assuming that one uses less than 100mins of talk per month anyway and doesn't expect to go outside the service area, why does phone cost matter at all here? You would have to buy a phone for $1200 off-contract vs getting it for $0 on-contract with no resale value to make the prepaid equal in cost to the contract.

"In two years, NFC might become almost a necessary part of daily life from grocery checkouts to library badges."

I highly, highly doubt this considering the number of people aged 60+ who don't currently have smartphones let alone those equipped with NFC and the number of people who are not computer-savvy. People still write checks at the grocery store. Libraries cater to low-income people (i.e. those without even a cell phone).

The point is that the $30/mo, 100 min plan with no roaming does not work for everybody. I am pointing out the cases where a post paid would be useful to some use cases. I am not suggesting that is better for everybody. Why do the no-contract fanatics want to hold up that one plan that works for a few to say, contract plans are good for nobody as if what everyone wants is only 100 min a month? I don't get the agenda here.


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