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sr71 02-11-2013 04:09 AM

Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 ST3000DM001 3TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5 inch Internal Hard Drive - Bare Drive $120AC@Newegg
 
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QuickStriker 02-11-2013 06:41 AM

Hmm.... how good is this drive??? Kinda need a secondary harddrive....

kwik 02-11-2013 06:49 AM

Man where are the $90 3TB drives that we had around black friday?! I really need more space.

I have 3 of these drives running in a NAS they are solid.

glico7122 02-11-2013 09:01 AM

Seagate Barracuda ST3000DM001 3TB 7200 RPM 64MB SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5 inch Internal Hard Drive - Bare Drive $119.99
 
Seagate Barracuda ST3000DM001 3TB 7200 RPM 64MB SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5 inch Internal Hard Drive - Bare Drive $119.99


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VOUDOO 02-11-2013 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwik (Post 57501678)
Man where are the $90 3TB drives that we had around black friday?! I really need more space.

I have 3 of these drives running in a NAS they are solid.

$90? can you link me this deal, I must have smoked too much and missed it

golfgal 02-11-2013 10:03 AM

Silly question, but why is this a good deal when external 3TB drives are often less these days? Is this a higher class of drive - faster - runs cooler - longer warranty - better for NAS? ???

propcgamer 02-11-2013 10:10 AM

I wish seagate didn't lower their warranty period :(

jmsq 02-11-2013 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VOUDOO (Post 57504900)
$90? can you link me this deal, I must have smoked too much and missed it

I can't find a link to it, but the 3tb Seagate Expansion was $90 and the 3tb Backup Plus was $100 on Amazon right around black friday. Both of those drives are external versions of this drive.

digicool 02-11-2013 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VOUDOO (Post 57504900)
$90? can you link me this deal, I must have smoked too much and missed it

Sounds like you did.. it was $90 last BF.

Sheiker 02-11-2013 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwik (Post 57501678)
I have 3 of these drives running in a NAS they are solid.

I have 3 of these drives as well, also in a NAS as RAID 5.
They are solid (knock on wood) for me too.

gfx2 02-11-2013 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by golfgal (Post 57505830)
Silly question, but why is this a good deal when external 3TB drives are often less these days? Is this a higher class of drive - faster - runs cooler - longer warranty - better for NAS? ???

because may be these are 7200rpm? and seagate?

Quote:

Originally Posted by QuickStriker (Post 57501532)
Hmm.... how good is this drive??? Kinda need a secondary harddrive....

this is a solid drive, but i sort of have a silly problem with it
I have one from an earlier SD that I use as the "data" drive in my recent build that has an Intel SSD for the OS. But this drive often goes into "semi-sleep" state when not in use and when it is time to get something from it or write something to it, I literally hear the drive starts spinning and there is a good long 4-5 seconds gap each time this happens.
once it awakens, the drive performs really fast, though.
It might just be some setting that needs to be done, but I thought I should mention this. I also had to do some special Seagate driver stuff before Win7 could recognize all 3TBs

MasterTactician 02-11-2013 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by golfgal (Post 57505830)
Silly question, but why is this a good deal when external 3TB drives are often less these days? Is this a higher class of drive - faster - runs cooler - longer warranty - better for NAS? ???

2 year warranty vs 1 year.

wantnano 02-11-2013 10:18 AM

i have one one of these as storage drives

is it supposed to have like 3 screeching noises when it starts up?

TTZip 02-11-2013 10:22 AM

hmmm.... considering buying 2 of these for Raid 1 as storage.

VOUDOO 02-11-2013 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmsq (Post 57506088)
I can't find a link to it, but the 3tb Seagate Expansion was $90 and the 3tb Backup Plus was $100 on Amazon right around black friday. Both of those drives are external versions of this drive.

I got one of the 3TB amazon deals, just never saw the $90 deal in my deal alerts, any links so I can see where things went wrong?

golfgal 02-11-2013 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gfx2 (Post 57506144)
this drive often goes into "semi-sleep" state when not in use and when it is time to get something from it or write something to it, I literally hear the drive starts spinning and there is a good long 4-5 seconds gap each time this happens.

I don't mind that - especially if it helps drive life - being external though - possibly your enclosure electronics might be involved?

I've experienced similar "hangs" on sleeping WD drives waking up from desktop access, though on the LAN as media drives they would always still respond to calls to play movies/TV Shows etc. from an Apple TV, WD Live Streaming box, iPads, EyeTV and others.

arson94 02-11-2013 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gfx2 (Post 57506144)
because may be these are 7200rpm? and seagate?


this is a solid drive, but i sort of have a silly problem with it
I have one from an earlier SD that I use as the "data" drive in my recent build that has an Intel SSD for the OS. But this drive often goes into "semi-sleep" state when not in use and when it is time to get something from it or write something to it, I literally hear the drive starts spinning and there is a good long 4-5 seconds gap each time this happens.
once it awakens, the drive performs really fast, though.
It might just be some setting that needs to be done, but I thought I should mention this. I also had to do some special Seagate driver stuff before Win7 could recognize all 3TBs

It's a setting in all power plans in Windows. If you click to change plan settings for each power plan, under hard disk, you can set the amount of time to power down a drive. Type 'power options' to get to the menu to change power plans.

jmsq 02-11-2013 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VOUDOO (Post 57506408)
I got one of the 3TB amazon deals, just never saw the $90 deal in my deal alerts, any links so I can see where things went wrong?

Unfortunately I can't find the thread for some reason. The $90 deal was tacked onto the $100 deal thread if I recall.

gfx2 02-11-2013 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by golfgal (Post 57506430)
I don't mind that - especially if it helps drive life - being external though - possibly your enclosure electronics might be involved?

I've experienced similar "hangs" on sleeping WD drives waking up from desktop access, though on the LAN as media drives they would always still respond to calls to play movies/TV Shows etc. from an Apple TV, WD Live Streaming box, iPads, EyeTV and others.

Yes this drive does respond to even remote calls, and I have it fit internally so no probs there.. its just that the sound actually scares me because it is starkingly similar to a failing HDD :confused: I hope it helps for a longer life.

Quote:

Originally Posted by arson94 (Post 57506444)
It's a setting in all power plans in Windows. If you click to change plan settings for each power plan, under hard disk, you can set the amount of time to power down a drive. Type 'power options' to get to the menu to change power plans.

well tried that, I dont like my computer to even sleep because it is ON all day and I need it any time from my work etc. I think this is more of something Seagate has done.. not sure

HoboTheClown 02-11-2013 10:36 AM

I'd be all over this if it was $90 since I'm building a new build. CA tax also is a factor in my purchases. If it was $100 I'd still consider it even with the CA tax. But all of you who don't factor in taxes from your state, is it still a slickdeal?

Economy is rough and wallet is smooth. I'd like my wallet to get rough.

kwik 02-11-2013 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VOUDOO (Post 57504900)
$90? can you link me this deal, I must have smoked too much and missed it

Here is link to my frontpage deal about it:
http://slickdeals.net/f/5546480-3...e-Shipping

And here was another one:
http://slickdeals.net/f/5546610-3...p=55045118

daniellwu 02-11-2013 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gfx2 (Post 57506540)
Yes this drive does respond to even remote calls, and I have it fit internally so no probs there.. its just that the sound actually scares me because it is starkingly similar to a failing HDD :confused: I hope it helps for a longer life.



well tried that, I dont like my computer to even sleep because it is ON all day and I need it any time from my work etc. I think this is more of something Seagate has done.. not sure

I have this drive, and I had the exact same problem. You cannot fix it from Control Panel alone. You have to disable the Automatic Acoustic Management (AAM) and Advanced Power Management (APM) on the drive. There are various programs that can do that.

CrystalDiskInfo: http://crystalmark.info/software/...dex-e.html
QuietHDD: https://sites.google.com/site/quiethdd/

This work well on Windows 7. But on Windows 8, at least for me, the settings don't persist through Sleep. When it wakes up for Sleep again, AAM/APM reset back to their annoying "clicking" state.

viperkillertt 02-11-2013 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwik (Post 57501678)
Man where are the $90 3TB drives that we had around black friday?! I really need more space.

I have 3 of these drives running in a NAS they are solid.

I have to say that i got 2 of these for my girlfriends system that i bough her. I used windows mirrored raid and i am VERY pleased with the performance! VERY FAST! Crazy fast. So fast that i am going to buy 2 for myself and replace the 6 1tb drives that i have in my current build. I am running raid 1+0, but it is very slow in my mind. I am tired of it loosing one drive. Mirrored only i feel is much safer.

Ananke 02-11-2013 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VOUDOO (Post 57504900)
$90? can you link me this deal, I must have smoked too much and missed it

That $89 was BF on Amazon, I got 5 for Windows server - they work solid so far.

faizoff 02-11-2013 11:32 AM

Anyone know if this drive makes the same chirpy noise as the 2 TB version?

TTZip 02-11-2013 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by viperkillertt (Post 57508052)
These drives were never 90 bucks. The dumb slow green drives were.
I have to say that i got 2 of these for my girlfriends system that i bough her. I used windows mirrored raid and i am VERY pleased with the performance! VERY FAST! Crazy fast. So fast that i am going to buy 2 for myself and replace the 6 1tb drives that i have in my current build. I am running raid 1+0, but it is very slow in my mind. I am tired of it loosing one drive. Mirrored only i feel is much safer.

Go look 2 posts above you. This exact drive was $90.

vettefan8 02-11-2013 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by viperkillertt (Post 57508052)
These drives were never 90 bucks. The dumb slow green drives were.
I have to say that i got 2 of these for my girlfriends system that i bough her. I used windows mirrored raid and i am VERY pleased with the performance! VERY FAST! Crazy fast. So fast that i am going to buy 2 for myself and replace the 6 1tb drives that i have in my current build. I am running raid 1+0, but it is very slow in my mind. I am tired of it loosing one drive. Mirrored only i feel is much safer.

False. I bought 3 of these for a raid 5 setup around black Friday for $90 each. Newegg started the deal and amazon price matched a couple hours later. I'm starting to wish that I had bought even more of them. I updated them to the latest firmware right after receiving them and they have been running flawlessly ever since.

Ananke 02-11-2013 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by faizoff (Post 57508200)
Anyone know if this drive makes the same chirpy noise as the 2 TB version?

Mine don't. There is no noise at all, temperature is like 35-37 on full load IO, at ambient 25 Celsius. I would say these are perfect drives. However, $119 is kinda painful price, unless you are desperately in need of them right now.

ursus 02-11-2013 11:36 AM

90 dollar deal was only during BF sale and was only from TDirect, as far as I remember. These are solid HDDs, just sucks to get one after others got it for 90 + FS. I think I will wait a bit more, at least until they drop down to 100

baby007 02-11-2013 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TTZip (Post 57508206)
Go look 2 posts above you. This exact drive was $90.

Im glad I got 3 when it was $90.

NORDO 02-11-2013 11:39 AM

WD Red 3TB is $150... worth the extra $30 for HTPC/media server (likely on 24/7) use? Or should I save the $30 and go with the Seagate?

sr71 02-11-2013 11:42 AM

Depending on which version of the drive you got believe they've issued a firmware update for that. May want to visit Seagate support site.

Quote:

Originally Posted by daniellwu (Post 57507650)
I have this drive, and I had the exact same problem. You cannot fix it from Control Panel alone. You have to disable the Automatic Acoustic Management (AAM) and Advanced Power Management (APM) on the drive. There are various programs that can do that.

CrystalDiskInfo: http://crystalmark.info/software/...dex-e.html
QuietHDD: https://sites.google.com/site/quiethdd/

This work well on Windows 7. But on Windows 8, at least for me, the settings don't persist through Sleep. When it wakes up for Sleep again, AAM/APM reset back to their annoying "clicking" state.

Quote:

Originally Posted by gfx2 (Post 57506540)
Yes this drive does respond to even remote calls, and I have it fit internally so no probs there.. its just that the sound actually scares me because it is starkingly similar to a failing HDD :confused: I hope it helps for a longer life.



well tried that, I dont like my computer to even sleep because it is ON all day and I need it any time from my work etc. I think this is more of something Seagate has done.. not sure


SaneLemming 02-11-2013 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gfx2 (Post 57506144)
I literally hear the drive starts spinning and there is a good long 4-5 seconds gap each time this happens.
once it awakens, the drive performs really fast, though.
It might just be some setting that needs to be done, but I thought I should mention this. I also had to do some special Seagate driver stuff before Win7 could recognize all 3TBs

Quote:

Originally Posted by wantnano (Post 57506272)
i have one one of these as storage drives

is it supposed to have like 3 screeching noises when it starts up?

Quote:

Originally Posted by faizoff (Post 57508200)
Anyone know if this drive makes the same chirpy noise as the 2 TB version?

Patch the firmware. I got one of these on black friday and noticed the "chirp" sound out of the box. It's aggressive head parking, and it does shorten the life of the drive. The new firmware fixes it. Once I patched it the sound stops (without having to constantly disable APM).

sr71 02-11-2013 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NORDO (Post 57508376)
WD Red 3TB is $150... worth the extra $30 for HTPC/media server (likely on 24/7) use? Or should I save the $30 and go with the Seagate?

For 24/7 the Red may be worth it saving you in wattage and the longer wty offsets the price difference. Prob can't go wrong either way.

NORDO 02-11-2013 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sr71 (Post 57508632)
For 24/7 the Red may be worth it saving you in wattage and the longer wty offsets the price difference. Prob can't go wrong either way.

Yeah, I have definitely been focusing on wattage for the build - i3, SSD, etc.

Reliability and noise are my keys when it comes to the HDD. This thing will be sitting under our main TV and I'll probably leave it on 24/7 for torrenting and serving media to other HTPCs.

faizoff 02-11-2013 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaneLemming (Post 57508594)
Patch the firmware. I got one of these on black friday and noticed the "chirp" sound out of the box. It's aggressive head parking, and it does shorten the life of the drive. The new firmware fixes it. Once I patched it the sound stops (without having to constantly disable APM).

I should add that I've already updated to the latest firmware and the chirping originally was horrendous, then after the firmware update it became tolerable but it's still there and is annoying.

wantnano 02-11-2013 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaneLemming (Post 57508594)
Patch the firmware. I got one of these on black friday and noticed the "chirp" sound out of the box. It's aggressive head parking, and it does shorten the life of the drive. The new firmware fixes it. Once I patched it the sound stops (without having to constantly disable APM).

what's the latest firmware for st3000dm001-1ch166 ?

mine says CC24. and there's nothing on the seagate website.. something about CC24 firmware being the latest for oem drives

also whats apm?

tkeppell 02-11-2013 12:01 PM

Anyone tried PM at Staples and use a Staples coupon for this?

Sorid 02-11-2013 12:19 PM

Hard to buy at $120 because they were $89.99 from both Newegg and Amazon around Black Friday (the same exact drive as this one). And before that they would go on sale for about $110.

I would pay about $20 more for the WD Red 3TB, which was on sale recently for $140. Seems like a better design.

That said, I now have 7 of these Seagates running in two PC's, all bought from Newegg, and they've not had any issues.

sr71 02-11-2013 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tkeppell (Post 57508928)
Anyone tried PM at Staples and use a Staples coupon for this?

They usually PM Amazon, not Newegg - and seems they only have the retail drive in stock

kwik 02-11-2013 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by viperkillertt (Post 57508052)
These drives were never 90 bucks. The dumb slow green drives were.

You sir are wrong -- http://slickdeals.net/f/5546480-3...e-Shipping

Read this thead. It was the Seagate 3TB 7200RPM 64mb cache drive. I should know, I started the thread and bought three of the drives.

dealeecher 02-11-2013 01:01 PM

I ordered one. Didn't know about the $90 3tb deal last year (and didn't need it then regardless) so this seems like a good deal. Cheaper than at Amazon and probably ship a lot sooner than them too

cconklin1 02-11-2013 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwik (Post 57501678)
Man where are the $90 3TB drives that we had around black friday?! I really need more space.

I have 3 of these drives running in a NAS they are solid.

no joke! I felt stupid for ordering 4or 5 from new egg and another 4 or 5 from amazon at the $90 price! Glad I did as I am needing the space now and would be pissed to have to spend $120 on the same drive that was $90 in december..

daniellwu 02-11-2013 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wantnano (Post 57508884)
what's the latest firmware for st3000dm001-1ch166 ?

mine says CC24. and there's nothing on the seagate website.. something about CC24 firmware being the latest for oem drives

also whats apm?

CC4H is the newest.
http://knowledge.seagate.com/arti...Q/223651en

APM is Advanced Power Management. It's powers down the hard drive when it's not in use to save power, but it makes it less responsive as well.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adva...management

edplayer 02-11-2013 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmsq (Post 57506088)
I can't find a link to it, but the 3tb Seagate Expansion was $90 and the 3tb Backup Plus was $100 on Amazon right around black friday. Both of those drives are external versions of this drive.


Yes, I bought one of those and also got a $90 bare drive close to BF also

sr71 02-11-2013 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmsq (Post 57506088)
I can't find a link to it, but the 3tb Seagate Expansion was $90 and the 3tb Backup Plus was $100 on Amazon right around black friday. Both of those drives are external versions of this drive.

SD search 3TB Seagate external :wave:

SaneLemming 02-11-2013 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wantnano (Post 57508884)
what's the latest firmware for st3000dm001-1ch166 ?

mine says CC24. and there's nothing on the seagate website.. something about CC24 firmware being the latest for oem drives

also whats apm?

like daniel said, new firmware is at http://knowledge.seagate.com/arti...Q/223651en

also as he said, apm is advanced power management. If you use a tool like crystaldiskinfo you can disable apm (under function>advanced feature) and the noise/sluggishness stops. The newer firmware basically lowers the value for apm (at least for this particular issue). There were a few blogposts about the time it was fixed in firmware about a specific setting where if you set it lower this would stop.

Tripp1269 02-11-2013 01:44 PM

Read this if you are thinking about using these in a NAS. I would get the WD Red.

http://www.amazon.com/review/RQNP...6&store=pc

sr71 02-11-2013 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaneLemming (Post 57511268)
like daniel said, new firmware is at http://knowledge.seagate.com/arti...Q/223651en

also as he said, apm is advanced power management. If you use a tool like crystaldiskinfo you can disable apm (under function>advanced feature) and the noise/sluggishness stops. The newer firmware basically lowers the value for apm (at least for this particular issue). There were a few blogposts about the time it was fixed in firmware about a specific setting where if you set it lower this would stop.

Diff drive the CC24 won't take this firmware, this may brick it. There are two difff part nos. of this drive with the same model #

SaneLemming 02-11-2013 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sr71 (Post 57511442)
Diff drive the CC24 won't take this firmware, this may brick it. There are two difff part nos. of this drive with the same model #

Well, if it actually is the chinese drive it shouldn't brick, the firmware update should just say there's no valid disk...but I was under the impression that those drives were shipping with firmware that was essentially the new version that fixed the head parking issue...

viperkillertt 02-11-2013 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwik (Post 57510050)
You sir are wrong -- http://slickdeals.net/f/5546480-3...e-Shipping

Read this thead. It was the Seagate 3TB 7200RPM 64mb cache drive. I should know, I started the thread and bought three of the drives.

I stand corrected. Wow, that is insanely cheap! I have seen the green drives many times for 90, but i missed that one.

evila 02-11-2013 03:00 PM

don't beat yourself up for not getting this drive when it was $90, it's norm price will definitely drop down to that range in a few months.

AVB 02-11-2013 03:03 PM

Here you go: http://slickdeals.net/permadeal/8...t3000dm001

Quote:

Originally Posted by VOUDOO (Post 57504900)
$90? can you link me this deal, I must have smoked too much and missed it


VOUDOO 02-11-2013 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AVB (Post 57513044)

yeah i went back through my deal alerts and found it, i think i was holding out for no tax in ca and it never came so i went with the amazon external deal

would have loved one for $90. i just cancelled my order for a usb 2.0 western digital green external from the other current deal. i think ill hold out for sub $100 for a 7200rpm

Unforgiven 02-11-2013 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sorid (Post 57509362)
I would pay about $20 more for the WD Red 3TB, which was on sale recently for $140. Seems like a better design.

Could you elaborate on that a bit?

WingsOfF 02-11-2013 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tripp1269 (Post 57511430)
Read this if you are thinking about using these in a NAS. I would get the WD Red.

http://www.amazon.com/review/RQNP...6&store=pc

Makes a diffrence only in NAS systems with hardware controllers configured with short time outs for enterprise use. You will find such NAS systems recommending Enterprise class drives. Consumer NAS systems use software RAID or with longer timeouts (a few seconds once in a while makes no difference to consumer systems). They typically supplement RAID with their own SMART surface monitoring tools to detect and take action for errors detected rather than let the RAID behave dumbly during reads and writes.

spectrum8 02-11-2013 04:43 PM

Here is what i found on this drive when i got it during BF:
"I followed your steps and took mine apart. Once the top shell is taken off, there are a couple metal clips along the outside of the metal housing near the ports. These can be spread slightly apart so you can more carefully pull the drive out if needed (just don't bend the ports/circuit board). I took some pics with my phone for a little bit of perspective:

http://i.imgur.com/amCHA.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/fr7k8.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/AJCL5.jpg

My manufacture date is 09/2012. Want to know the best part? I used SeaTools to test the drive beforehand and it all came out fine, after about 12 hours :/. I used the warranty checker (link in the SeaTools app) on seagate.com to check the drives warranty - i believe it was January 2013. This is no surprise (it should be a year) however, the internal drive had a warranty out to 25-Dec-2015 :lmao:. I should have never bought that squaretrade 2 year warranty :D.

edit: I can also confirm again that the model is ST3000DM001 and no, the enclosure wasn't soldered to the drive :shake:."

So roll the dice, you may get a better warranty with an 'external drive' :lmao:.

Also, is there a way to quote a post from another thread?

Sorid 02-11-2013 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unforgiven (Post 57514236)
Could you elaborate on that a bit?

While I have 7 Seagate 3TB's, I'd buy the WD Red 3TB's for $20 more apiece for "big storage usage." Better head parking management, lower power usage, lower temperature, 3 year warranty, and supposedly with its design optimized for a NAS, better durability. That's even though the Seagate's are actually faster at most operations than the Red's. But I use HDD's for big media storage and SSD's for speed.

Someone wanting higher speed HDD's won't like the Red's as much.

The AnandTech and Tom's Hardware review describe the Red well:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/615...he-premium

http://www.tomshardware.com/revie...,3248.html

Hope that helps.

Unforgiven 02-11-2013 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sorid (Post 57517466)
While I have 7 Seagate 3TB's, I'd buy the WD Red 3TB's for $20 more apiece for "big storage usage." Better head parking management, lower power usage, lower temperature, 3 year warranty, and supposedly with its design optimized for a NAS, better durability. That's even though the Seagate's are actually faster at most operations than the Red's. But I use HDD's for big media storage and SSD's for speed.

Someone wanting higher speed HDD's won't like the Red's as much.

The AnandTech and Tom's Hardware review describe the Red well:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/615...he-premium

http://www.tomshardware.com/revie...,3248.html

Hope that helps.

It did, thanks.

tbird2340 02-11-2013 07:21 PM

For those of you running (3) 3TB drives in a NAS.. What are you using for a NAS? A device? FreeNAS? Etc...

Thanks

golfgal 02-11-2013 08:28 PM

I wonder how it compares to what's inside this -

Seagate Backup Plus 3TB USB 3.0 Black Desktop Hard Drive STCA3000101 - which is also $119 right now but getting no love on SD.

Someone on NewEgg Reviews wrote about the Backup Plus drive -
"It's the Seagate Barracuda ST3000DL001 Hard drive that is actually in the unit."

Both 2 year warranty. I need a drive to run 24/7 for HTPC - speed isn't as important as durability, quiet, and running cool....but it would get noisy anyway if I put it in my 2 bay JBOD w/fan.

jedimaster974 02-11-2013 08:52 PM

I picked up 5 of these on BF. running in a freenas solution. working well. Hopefully i wont need more space until next BF

sr71 02-11-2013 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spectrum8 (Post 57515118)

My manufacture date is 09/2012. Want to know the best part? I used SeaTools to test the drive beforehand and it all came out fine, after about 12 hours :/. I used the warranty checker (link in the SeaTools app) on seagate.com to check the drives warranty - i believe it was January 2013. This is no surprise (it should be a year) however, the internal drive had a warranty out to 25-Dec-2015 :lmao:. I should have never bought that squaretrade 2 year warranty :D.

edit: I can also confirm again that the model is ST3000DM001 and no, the enclosure wasn't soldered to the drive :shake:."

So roll the dice, you may get a better warranty with an 'external drive' :lmao:.

Also, is there a way to quote a post from another thread?

Here's the prob you may not have either wty since you cracked the case, the external wty is void if they determine you've tampered or altered the setup. Also if the drive is tracked in their internal database as being part of an external kit then they may refuse to honor that as well. Hopefully you never have to find out, but folks have been bitten.

daniellwu 02-11-2013 09:01 PM

Regarding the firmware to fix the "chirping" issue. If you get a drive that has firmware CC9D, you won't not be able to "upgrade" to firmware CC4H that has the fix.
http://forums.seagate.com/t5/Barr...d-p/162480

skydivingcows 02-11-2013 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jmsq (Post 57506088)
I can't find a link to it, but the 3tb Seagate Expansion was $90 and the 3tb Backup Plus was $100 on Amazon right around black friday. Both of those drives are external versions of this drive.

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Originally Posted by VOUDOO (Post 57504900)
$90? can you link me this deal, I must have smoked too much and missed it

Quote:

Originally Posted by digicool (Post 57506098)
Sounds like you did.. it was $90 last BF.

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Originally Posted by VOUDOO (Post 57506408)
I got one of the 3TB amazon deals, just never saw the $90 deal in my deal alerts, any links so I can see where things went wrong?

I was able to snag 4 following this thread, and these posts.
http://slickdeals.net/f/5546480-3...st55064376

http://slickdeals.net/f/5546480-3...st55064838


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Originally Posted by Tripp1269 (Post 57511430)
Read this if you are thinking about using these in a NAS. I would get the WD Red.

http://www.amazon.com/review/RQNP...6&store=pc

I ended up putting mine in this weekend and setup in Windows 2012 Essentials as storage spaces. Figure I'd try that out and see how it goes. Streams my movies to wireless Samsung TV without any issues.

WingsOfF 02-11-2013 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sr71 (Post 57519750)
Here's the prob you may not have either wty since you cracked the case, the external wty is void if they determine you've tampered or altered the setup. Also if the drive is tracked in their internal database as being part of an external kit then they may refuse to honor that as well. Hopefully you never have to find out, but folks have been bitten.

If you read the Seagate forums, you will find that people have been able to get rhe warranty as an external drive as they allow you to break it open for "data recovery" purposes. Just get permission from them to do so when you get the RMA and before you send it back and you will be fine.

You will not get warranty as an internal drive since it has firmware specific to external drives and will be in their databases as external.

sr71 02-11-2013 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WingsOfF (Post 57520252)
If you read the Seagate forums, you will find that people have been able to get rhe warranty as an external drive as they allow you to break it open for "data recovery" purposes. Just get permission from them to do so when you get the RMA and before you send it back and you will be fine.

You will not get warranty as an internal drive since it has firmware specific to external drives and will be in their databases as external.

It's stil very much YMMV, just stating that for folks expecting to crack open one of these and magically have a longer wty - it's a roll of the dice so good luck.

SimMike777 02-12-2013 08:22 PM

Bought the drive. Didn't want to wait for black Friday for it to be $90. Still available. Didn't like the slower spindle speed of WD green and WD Red.

The_Loozer 02-13-2013 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gfx2 (Post 57506144)
this is a solid drive, but i sort of have a silly problem with it
I have one from an earlier SD that I use as the "data" drive in my recent build that has an Intel SSD for the OS. But this drive often goes into "semi-sleep" state when not in use and when it is time to get something from it or write something to it, I literally hear the drive starts spinning and there is a good long 4-5 seconds gap each time this happens.
once it awakens, the drive performs really fast, though.
It might just be some setting that needs to be done, but I thought I should mention this. I also had to do some special Seagate driver stuff before Win7 could recognize all 3TBs

Win7 (or Vista) should be able to recognize the entire capacity of this drive without having to do anything "special". XP requires tweaking in order for it to see the entire drive.

As far as the drive spinning down, you can always change that in your Power Options -> Change plan settings -> Change advanced power settings. In the dialog, expand Hard disk and change the timeout to Never (defaults to 20 minutes).

SimMike777 02-14-2013 04:24 PM

As far as XP, I have an XP install on a secondary drive which occasionally I boot to via my BIOS. My main OS is Windows 7, which is what I will set this drive up with and use primarily. Let's say I partition it as two 1.5TB partitions and format it in Windows 7. If I now boot to XP, will XP see the partitions normally and use the drive normally?


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