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DJ3xclusive 02-12-2013 08:00 AM

250GB Samsung 840 Series 2.5" SATA Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) w/ Notebook/Desktop Installation Kit (MZ-7TD250KW) $150 + Free Shipping
 
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brisar 02-12-2013 08:00 AM

250GB Samsung 840 Series 2.5" SATA Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) w/ Notebook/Desktop Installation Kit (MZ-7TD250KW) $150 + Free Shipping
 
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Price Research: Our research indicates that this 250GB Samsung 840 Series 2.5" SATA Internal Solid State Drive with Notebook/Desktop Installation Kit (MZ-7TD250KW) is $25 lower (14% savings)than the next best available price from a reputable merchant with prices starting from $175. - brisar

wikipost 02-12-2013 08:00 AM

wiki
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by anandtech
At least in MLC flash, the move to 3Xnm halved the P/E cycles so we would be looking at 1250 cycles. 2Xnm brought even fewer cycles, roughly 3,000, and with same math we get 750 cycles for 2Xnm TLC.

A lot of NAND is being made at 19nm, so the P/E lifespan could be even lower than just 750 cycles.

Performance comparison graphs:
http://www.hardocp.com/images/art...DY_8_5.png
http://www.hardocp.com/images/art...DY_8_6.png

Quote:

Originally Posted by hardocp
we can also note the very low write speeds for the TLC-equipped Samsung 840.

Quote:

Originally Posted by hardocp
The voltages we recorded with the Samsung 840 are higher than the Samsung 840 Pro across the board, and also exhibit one of the highest idle voltages that we have witnessed. This is probably due to some hefty background processes to handle the TLC NAND. The only area where the Samsung 840 performed admirably was in the Startup voltage, which came in at a very low 1.13W.

The random write voltage was unsurprisingly very high, and the sequential write voltage requirement is also on the high end. With this being a relatively new SSD, with its TLC destined to begin producing more errors over the life of the drive, we would expect these power consumption figures to grow over the life of the SSD. Even with these relatively 'fresh' readings we feel that this would not be the best SSD for mobile applications.

Quote:

Originally Posted by hardocp
The low write speed offered with the Samsung 840 Series is going to be a concern for some users. It is especially important that users with moderate to heavy write workloads carefully weigh other options before making the jump to a TLC SSD. The low write speed will be an immediate problem in large file transfer situations, and endurance will be a long-term problem. It is also important to note that the 120GB model of this SSD only has a sequential write speed of 130MB/s and random read IOPS of 32,000, significantly lower than the lackluster write performance that we observed today in our testing.

Including a thermal pad for the controller would help to keep the device cool. We would like to see thermal pads with this SSD when we take the higher power consumption figures from TLC NAND into consideration.

Our steady state testing essentially places a workload upon the SSD until it is forced to begin running the internal management routines and garbage collection during actual usage. This is especially important with this type of NAND as it is definitely going to experience far more data errors than MLC over time. This will create increasing overhead for the MDX controller over the lifetime of the device. The read speed degradation that we observed is worrisome due to the fact that the increasing error rates can trigger these drive management routines, in effect creating read speed degradation in lower usage scenarios than with MLC NAND.

The extreme loss of write performance in steady state in our Iometer testing can also be a sign of long term performance issues in steady state as the NAND ages.


Supraazn 02-12-2013 08:38 AM

In4one.
Was about to buy it when it was on sale at newegg for the same price but it went OOS. This is actually a better deal since this doesn't have tax in Cali while newegg does. Thanks and repped.

spliton 02-12-2013 09:12 AM

great deal thanks!

orion2001 02-12-2013 09:26 AM

FP stuff!

MichaelIv 02-12-2013 10:05 AM

3% back in eBay bucks makes this better then the NewEgg deal.

Edit: 3$ = 2%

emjlr3 02-12-2013 10:19 AM

i will bite @ $.50/GB

seems to be trending there

JabberWockey 02-12-2013 10:33 AM

This is for the 250 gb version.

There's another deal going on for the 500 gb version:

http://slickdeals.net/permadeal/8...mz7td500bw

Note that the 840 series is TLC SSD memory, which works well for normal/personal use (>5 years) but may die sooner if used for enterprise (2 years).

Bobby_Pro 02-12-2013 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emjlr3 (Post 57530956)
i will bite @ $.50/GB

seems to be trending there

It's an SSD. Performance counts.

You can get WD 3Tb @150 if you dont want to bite.

shockz420 02-12-2013 10:35 AM

does this come with the 3.5" mounting bracket kit?

Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelIv (Post 57530594)
3% back in eBay bucks makes this better then the NewEgg deal.

how do you get ebay bucks?

MichaelIv 02-12-2013 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shockz420 (Post 57531396)
does this come with the 3.5" mounting bracket kit?



how do you get ebay bucks?

You just have to enroll and you will automatically earn ebay bucks on each qualifying purchase. No catch as far as I can tell. This will obviously stack with CC cashback. Oh and I ment 3$ = 2% :D


Mwore info - Click the I agree - start earning.
http://my.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.d...nding=true

Yes, seems to come with everything, same part # as the newegg deal
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Pro...6820147186

zeezz 02-12-2013 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shockz420 (Post 57531396)
does this come with the 3.5" mounting bracket kit?



how do you get ebay bucks?

Site says this, hopefully they are not lying:

A Complete, User-Friendly Solution
The Samsung SSD 840 Series is available with a simple, all-in-one installation kit. The kit comes with SATA data and power cables, screws, a 2.5-inch to 3.5-inch adapter bracket, a SATA to USB adapter cable to facilitate easy data migration, and a mounting spacer so that laptops with traditional 9.5mm drive bays can accommodate the Samsung SSD 840 Series slim 7mm profile.

BoldIntrepid 02-12-2013 10:44 AM

Looks good. TU

stickycash 02-12-2013 10:48 AM

Trim with RAID 0?

emjlr3 02-12-2013 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobby_Pro (Post 57531328)
It's an SSD. Performance counts.

You can get WD 3Tb @150 if you dont want to bite.

yea and this isn't that great at performing either.

obladi6703 02-12-2013 10:54 AM

In for one. Thanks!

MichaelIv 02-12-2013 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickycash (Post 57531820)
Trim with RAID 0?

That depends on your RAID controller, not the SSD.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/647...boards-too

jack612 02-12-2013 10:57 AM

I guess it's finally time to replace my old SATA II Intel SSD. In for one.

mattspalace 02-12-2013 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickycash (Post 57531820)
Trim with RAID 0?

If, and only if, you have a Z77 chipset motherboard (assuming you want the onboard Intel controller). Works great. I have a pair in RAID 0 and it runs as well today as when I first set up the partition.

zhopa 02-12-2013 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickycash (Post 57531820)
Trim with RAID 0?

Trim with RAID zero is more of a function of the motherboard disk controller and driver.
Use an H77 chipset with latest driver and you'll get TRIM with RAID 0.

Gary4U 02-12-2013 11:02 AM

Benchmark in Windows 8 (still playing)
 
Did a quick benchmark in Samsung Magician under Windows 8 x64 with AHCI enabled and OS optimization set to performance. I am still playing with the various settings with Magician, Windows 8, and my ASRock BIOS:

http://screencast.com/t/fdVfIpx0Ka

531MB/s sequential read // 257MB/s sequential writes
50K random read IOPS // 45K random write IOPS

Decent, and probably room for small bit of improvement, especially with the IOPS.

stickycash 02-12-2013 11:04 AM

Thanks... just to make sure ..includes Z79 chipset also?

TwistedRyders 02-12-2013 11:10 AM

Bought one. TU

zhopa 02-12-2013 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JabberWockey (Post 57531314)
This is for the 250 gb version.

There's another deal going on for the 500 gb version:

http://slickdeals.net/permadeal/8...mz7td500bw

Note that the 840 series is TLC SSD memory, which works well for normal/personal use (>5 years) but may die sooner if used for enterprise (2 years).

Why would you even be surfing this deal if you're going to buy of enterprise use?

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickycash (Post 57532240)
Thanks... just to make sure ..includes Z79 chipset also?

Should work. As long as you the chipset supports Intel RST version 11 or later.

plasnu 02-12-2013 11:21 AM

I'll buy one when 500GB becomes $100.

pbcal 02-12-2013 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plasnu (Post 57532700)
I'll buy one when 500GB becomes $100.

May be in 3 years when sata 5 15GB per sec drives come out.:lol:

tennis8363 02-12-2013 11:32 AM

Just to make sure, can someone verify this is how it works:

-Hook up the new SSD to laptop via USB
-Clone old drive onto new SSD
-Install SSD into Laptop and enjoy a faster computer

Also, is there a way to only bring over some data and programs?

darksiderising 02-12-2013 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tennis8363 (Post 57533022)
Just to make sure, can someone verify this is how it works:

-Hook up the new SSD to laptop via USB
-Clone old drive onto new SSD
-Install SSD into Laptop and enjoy a faster computer

Also, is there a way to only bring over some data and programs?

This is what I did for my Macbook Pro (late-2009) a month ago when this deal was up. Hooked up the drive witht he supplied USB adapter cable and used Carbon Copy Cloner to copy the contents of my HDD to the new SSD. This took a few hours. Then I just powered off, swapped out drives, and instantly had a much more responsive computer. I don't know how this works if this will reduce to the size of your storage (ie going from a 500 GB HDD to this 250 GB SSD).

I'm also not sure how this works for WIndows, as I haven't used it since Windows XP and if I remember correctly, there sometimes issues with changing hardware due to "hardware profiles" that Windows liked to keep consistent. Someone please chime in if this is no longer an issue.

Quote:

Originally Posted by shockz420 (Post 57531396)
does this come with the 3.5" mounting bracket kit?

I got this kit last month. It comes with a 3.5 mount bracket (nothing fancy just thin metal) and USB adapter for cloning/copying your old HDD. The USB adapter worked great for cloning my Macbook Pro's old HDD.

babyblue007 02-12-2013 11:45 AM

I'm looking to get this for my windows 8 laptop (lenovo Y500), if someone can confirm that this kit comes with everything I need (cables, bracket? software) to clone, that would be great. TIA

Quote:

Originally Posted by darksiderising (Post 57533212)
This is what I did for my Macbook Pro (late-2009) a month ago when this deal was up. Hooked up the drive witht he supplied USB adapter cable and used Carbon Copy Cloner to copy the contents of my HDD to the new SSD. This took a few hours. Then I just powered off, swapped out drives, and instantly had a much more responsive computer. I don't know how this works if this will reduce to the size of your storage (ie going from a 500 GB HDD to this 250 GB SSD).

I'm also not sure how this works for WIndows, as I haven't used it since Windows XP and if I remember correctly, there sometimes issues with changing hardware due to "hardware profiles" that Windows liked to keep consistent. Someone please chime in if this is no longer an issue.



I got this kit last month. It comes with a 3.5 mount bracket (nothing fancy just thin metal) and USB adapter for cloning/copying your old HDD. The USB adapter worked great for cloning my Macbook Pro's old HDD.


Ion Control 02-12-2013 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plasnu (Post 57532700)
I'll buy one when 500GB becomes $100.


Thanks for sharing your plans for 2015.

mattspalace 02-12-2013 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by babyblue007 (Post 57533374)
I'm looking to get this for my windows 8 laptop (lenovo Y500), if someone can confirm that this kit comes with everything I need (cables, bracket? software) to clone, that would be great. TIA

According to the "in the box" link provided in the auction listing, it does include everything you need:

840 Series 250GB Solid State Drive
Samsung SmartMigration Software
Samsung Software & Manual CD
Quick User Manual
3.5" bracket with screws
SATA data and power cables
Mounting Spacer
SATA to USB Adapter Capable

mattspalace 02-12-2013 12:00 PM

damn, tax kills the deal for me.

maddoggyusa 02-12-2013 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tennis8363 (Post 57533022)
Just to make sure, can someone verify this is how it works:

-Hook up the new SSD to laptop via USB
-Clone old drive onto new SSD
-Install SSD into Laptop and enjoy a faster computer

Also, is there a way to only bring over some data and programs?

the best choice is to fresh install the o/s if that isn't a big deal for you. otherwise what you have there will work

when you can clean install the o/s without all the crappy bloatware the laptop companies add... your computer will boot much faster... add in an SSD and it's uber fast. Windows 8 with an i7 and this SSD, 5 seconds

darksiderising 02-12-2013 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattspalace (Post 57533642)
According to the "in the box" link provided in the auction listing, it does include everything you need:

840 Series 250GB Solid State Drive
Samsung SmartMigration Software
Samsung Software & Manual CD
Quick User Manual
3.5" bracket with screws
SATA data and power cables
Mounting Spacer
SATA to USB Adapter Capable

Oh yeah and I forgot about those extra things that it came with. They weren't needed so I didn't even bother taking them out of the box. But I can confirm that this package does come with everything listed.

tennis8363 02-12-2013 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maddoggyusa (Post 57533860)
the best choice is to fresh install the o/s if that isn't a big deal for you. otherwise what you have there will work

when you can clean install the o/s without all the crappy bloatware the laptop companies add... your computer will boot much faster... add in an SSD and it's uber fast. Windows 8 with an i7 and this SSD, 5 seconds

Unfortunately I don't have a clean copy of Win 7, only the one that came with the Dell laptop. I bought a few copies of Windows 8 for $14.99, but am hesitant to give it a run based on reviews.

diablofreak 02-12-2013 12:17 PM

man now i want another one lol

snives 02-12-2013 12:29 PM

Debating biting on this... I need to get my wife onto an SSD and I wouldn't mind upgrading my gaming drive. I'll probably end up waiting till .50/GB or the release of Haswell (not necessarily buying Haswell, just waiting for it :P )... whichever comes first.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tennis8363 (Post 57534126)
Unfortunately I don't have a clean copy of Win 7, only the one that came with the Dell laptop. I bought a few copies of Windows 8 for $14.99, but am hesitant to give it a run based on reviews.

You won't find a negative review from anybody that has actually tried it. Like most things online, there are a lot of people complaining and writing about things that they have no actual clue about. It is faster, slimmer, and has no likely compatibility issues upgrading from 7. If you don't like Metro, then install ClassicShell and you have a very much upgraded version of 7. On top of being optimized, there are also quite a few perks for power users and basic users alike (ReFS, Storage Spaces, Hyper-V, full RDP8.0...).

maddoggyusa 02-12-2013 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tennis8363 (Post 57534126)
Unfortunately I don't have a clean copy of Win 7, only the one that came with the Dell laptop. I bought a few copies of Windows 8 for $14.99, but am hesitant to give it a run based on reviews.

windows 8 is odd and a little frustrating at first... but I've found all the same features as windows 7 are there once you get the hang of it.

you can turn off the hot corners and other odd stuff. I had to add a "shutdown" button on my desktop because otherwise you can't shutdown from the desktop view. I noticed if you install it fresh with internet connection, microsoft changes the boot to go directly to desktop (instead of start screen). I'm quite sure they did this because people do not like the start screen.

but 95% of the time I'm in a game or the internet or office... and you can't tell what O/S you have when you're running them. Windows 8 does seem FASTER (especially for bootup).

calisurfboy 02-12-2013 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maddoggyusa (Post 57533860)
the best choice is to fresh install the o/s if that isn't a big deal for you. otherwise what you have there will work

when you can clean install the o/s without all the crappy bloatware the laptop companies add... your computer will boot much faster... add in an SSD and it's uber fast. Windows 8 with an i7 and this SSD, 5 seconds


I am not a techno guru but I have seen several of these SSD drives posted on here and have seen several discussions picking up tid bits here and there. Question:

On a MAC, isn't it a requirement to clone because of a hidden partition a fresh install of the OS will not do?

Also, is it fine going with the 840 vs 840 pro if installing in the optical drive on a macbook pro because there is a speed restriction vs installation as the main hard drive which would make the speed difference of the pro moot?

bsmithuga 02-12-2013 12:43 PM

Been seeing these deals for the 840 pop up like crazy lately - I'm tempted to get it, but not sure if I really need one? I'm on a mid-09 Macbook Pro and its been running kinda slow lately - I need to clear some space off the stock 160HDD, but upgrading to a SSD that's almost twice the size would probably do the trick.

Can anyone comment on how this will affect normal laptop use on a day-to-day basis? If I'm using my laptop for mostly web surfing, MS Word, streaming some Netflix, and iTunes as a student - and my primary need is more space, should I bother installing a SSD? It'll definitely be a softer blow to the wallet if I just upgrade to a bigger, faster HDD - but with how often I hear people raving about SSD speed - I can't decide. Somebody want to help out a poor college kid with some advice?

Requies 02-12-2013 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bsmithuga (Post 57534886)
Been seeing these deals for the 840 pop up like crazy lately - I'm tempted to get it, but not sure if I really need one? I'm on a mid-09 Macbook Pro and its been running kinda slow lately - I need to clear some space off the stock 160HDD, but upgrading to a SSD that's almost twice the size would probably do the trick.

Can anyone comment on how this will affect normal laptop use on a day-to-day basis? If I'm using my laptop for mostly web surfing, MS Word, streaming some Netflix, and iTunes as a student - and my primary need is more space, should I bother installing a SSD? It'll definitely be a softer blow to the wallet if I just upgrade to a bigger, faster HDD - but with how often I hear people raving about SSD speed - I can't decide. Somebody want to help out a poor college kid with some advice?

Get an SSD. My friend who had a Macbook Pro (and was contemplating buying the Retina MBP) says that a new SSD was all he needed to make his MBP feel like a new computer.

You might not need 250 GB, though if you're looking to budget.

But definitely get an SSD over a bigger, faster HDD. The SSD will be much, much faster....

yimnvs 02-12-2013 12:47 PM

Once u go ssd, ull never go back. Its like slo motion with a hhd. All my pcs have ssd in them and they fly, even older pcs benefit from having a ssd.

cracovian 02-12-2013 12:54 PM

It's like being with two chicks at the same time.

mattspalace 02-12-2013 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cracovian (Post 57535134)
It's like being with two chicks at the same time.

That's a bold statement.

FrozenBiker 02-12-2013 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bsmithuga (Post 57534886)
Been seeing these deals for the 840 pop up like crazy lately - I'm tempted to get it, but not sure if I really need one? I'm on a mid-09 Macbook Pro and its been running kinda slow lately - I need to clear some space off the stock 160HDD, but upgrading to a SSD that's almost twice the size would probably do the trick.

Can anyone comment on how this will affect normal laptop use on a day-to-day basis? If I'm using my laptop for mostly web surfing, MS Word, streaming some Netflix, and iTunes as a student - and my primary need is more space, should I bother installing a SSD? It'll definitely be a softer blow to the wallet if I just upgrade to a bigger, faster HDD - but with how often I hear people raving about SSD speed - I can't decide. Somebody want to help out a poor college kid with some advice?

An ssd will boot your mbp crazy-fast. And your programs launch within a second or two. You can use the stock hd as an external backup device now.
This is what i bought to put the stock hd in: http://www.amazon.com/Vantec-NexS...B002JQNXZC

zhopa 02-12-2013 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tennis8363 (Post 57534126)
Unfortunately I don't have a clean copy of Win 7, only the one that came with the Dell laptop. I bought a few copies of Windows 8 for $14.99, but am hesitant to give it a run based on reviews.

Just download the OEM Windows 7 image from the net, and insert the Win 7 key that came with your Dell when you fresh install.

tennis8363 02-12-2013 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zhopa (Post 57535992)
Just download the OEM Windows 7 image from the net, and insert the Win 7 key that came with your Dell when you fresh install.

Thanks... I think a couple of the posters in here have steered me to giving Windows 8 a run.

tennisplayer888 02-12-2013 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cracovian (Post 57535134)
It's like being with two chicks at the same time.

Wat makes it feel like 3?

luckysnafu 02-12-2013 01:59 PM

Ordered one a couple hours ago and already received a tracking number. Impressive.

05Aucrarsx 02-12-2013 02:00 PM

good deal

cracovian 02-12-2013 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tennisplayer888 (Post 57536462)
Wat makes it feel like 3?

How would I know? Still working on my two... Maybe when I'm rich.

Ion Control 02-12-2013 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snives (Post 57534554)
You won't find a negative review from anybody that has actually tried it. Like most things online, there are a lot of people complaining and writing about things that they have no actual clue about. It is faster, slimmer, and has no likely compatibility issues upgrading from 7. If you don't like Metro, then install ClassicShell and you have a very much upgraded version of 7. On top of being optimized, there are also quite a few perks for power users and basic users alike (ReFS, Storage Spaces, Hyper-V, full RDP8.0...).

Right. Because no one who reviews Windows 8 negatively actually tried it. Sound logic to be sure. :rolleyes:

To anyone interested in Win8, I'd say Snives just made it completely clear he's not going to give you a fair review of Win 8. Anyone who dismisses negative reviews with the lame (and so easily falsified*) statement "they haven't actually tried it" more or less exemplifies the concept of a "fanboi."

PS This is not a commentary on Win8, which has its fans and its detractors, just on Snives' grossly biased take.


*"A long story made short. Windows 8 might be (emphasis on might be) useful on tablets or systems with touch screens. I found it to be a step backward from Windows 7 when I installed it on a mouse/keyboard based systems. I installed Windows 8 the first day it became available and I used it for a couple of weeks. I did the education steps including finding shut down, adding apps and understanding navigation but found Windows 8 cumbersome to use. I have reinstalled Windows 7 and I am now waiting for Windows 9 (or 10)."

"Update 14 Jan 13: I've been using Windows 8 for more than a month now and it was originally annoying but stable especially when coming out of sleep and hibernation, but after numerous updates it's morphed into an unstable mess. It becomes unstable when the display has been turned off by the computer for longer than 4 hours or when coming out of sleep or hibernation, becoming generally unresponsive to most actions and usually requires a reboot 70% of the time. I can manage to reboot using CTL ALT DEL to access the reboot option but have given up on trying to save any work because they usually get corrupted. When in use the OS is very stable though. At this point I'm trying to decide on dropping back to Windows 7 or moving on to Linux."

http://www.amazon.com/Windows-Pro...ewpoints=0

"Windows 8 is without a doubt, the most dreadful desktop operating system I have ever used."

http://www.amazon.com/Windows-Pro...ewpoints=0

Requies 02-12-2013 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cracovian (Post 57536652)
How would I know? Still working on my two... Maybe when I'm rich.

As long as you're a millionaire. And if you were a millionaire you could hook that up, too; 'cause chicks dig dudes with money.

strhrn 02-12-2013 02:28 PM

Just ordered one. THANKS OP! TUP.

darksiderising 02-12-2013 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bsmithuga (Post 57534886)
Can anyone comment on how this will affect normal laptop use on a day-to-day basis? If I'm using my laptop for mostly web surfing, MS Word, streaming some Netflix, and iTunes as a student - and my primary need is more space, should I bother installing a SSD? It'll definitely be a softer blow to the wallet if I just upgrade to a bigger, faster HDD - but with how often I hear people raving about SSD speed - I can't decide. Somebody want to help out a poor college kid with some advice?

I recently (1 mo) installed one of these in my late-2009 Macbook Pro (very similar to yours) and it's been amazing. If you're still at the stock 2 or 4 GB RAM, go to the max of 8 GB while you've got the bottom of the laptop taken off. For ~$200 you'll be getting what feels like a new computer.

You'll also need a #00 Philips to unscrew the bottom of the laptop and a T6 Torx to move the hardrive screws from the old to the new. The screws are special and needed to properly hold the new SSD in place.

Madman91102 02-12-2013 02:58 PM

Debating on buying this or not, wife might not like it...

I've had a crappy 80gb hdd for my main bootup with a 2tb storage hdd for awhile, always wanted to get rid of that crappy 80gb hdd.. just unsure if I should buy a 250gb ssd for $150 =/

calisurfboy 02-12-2013 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cracovian (Post 57535134)
It's like being with two chicks at the same time.


Ummmm..... I'm still trying to find just the one chick.

Yep. Nothing like being alone on Valentines Day with Papa Johns. Thank god for Kate Upton and making Sports Illustrated for the second year in the row......

textmessagejosh 02-12-2013 03:01 PM

I did the same upgrades for the same reason this month. Got the Kingston one on amazon for under $50 I think. I can now push off the upgrade itch for another 18 months or so.

Quote:

Originally Posted by darksiderising (Post 57537308)
I recently (1 mo) installed one of these in my late-2009 Macbook Pro (very similar to yours) and it's been amazing. If you're still at the stock 2 or 4 GB RAM, go to the max of 8 GB while you've got the bottom of the laptop taken off. For ~$200 you'll be getting what feels like a new computer.

You'll also need a #00 Philips to unscrew the bottom of the laptop and a T6 Torx to move the hardrive screws from the old to the new. The screws are special and needed to properly hold the new SSD in place.


strhrn 02-12-2013 03:12 PM

My Windows 8 "killed" (took second HDD off line and overwrote a boot partition) all operations systems (XP & Win7) on my computer recently so I had to reinstall Win 7 to a separate 320Gb drive to disable Windows 8 installation.
I'm just wondering if is it possible to migrate Win 7 from 320 Gb HDD to 250Gb SSD or I have to reinstall everything again?

P.S Got already my shipping confirmation and a tracking number. Just 40 min later after I ordered it.

nfs924 02-12-2013 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JabberWockey (Post 57531314)
This is for the 250 gb version.

There's another deal going on for the 500 gb version:

http://slickdeals.net/permadeal/8...mz7td500bw

Note that the 840 series is TLC SSD memory, which works well for normal/personal use (>5 years) but may die sooner if used for enterprise (2 years).

No one should ever use a TLC drive for enterprise. MLC is bad enough.

asuchemist 02-12-2013 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tennis8363 (Post 57534126)
Unfortunately I don't have a clean copy of Win 7, only the one that came with the Dell laptop. I bought a few copies of Windows 8 for $14.99, but am hesitant to give it a run based on reviews.

download from here...make usb bootable disk and you are good to go with WIN7

http://en.community.dell.com/supp...river.aspx

LiquidSmoke420 02-12-2013 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ion Control (Post 57533630)
Thanks for sharing your plans for 2015.

:lmao::lmao::lmao:

maddoggyusa 02-12-2013 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strhrn (Post 57538020)
My Windows 8 "killed" (took second HDD off line and overwrote a boot partition) all operations systems (XP & Win7) on my computer recently so I had to reinstall Win 7 to a separate 320Gb drive to disable Windows 8 installation.
I'm just wondering if is it possible to migrate Win 7 from 320 Gb HDD to 250Gb SSD or I have to reinstall everything again?

P.S Got already my shipping confirmation and a tracking number. Just 40 min later after I ordered it.

as long as the used space you want to mirror over is less than ~235GB (the actual usable space on the 250GB), I think you'd be fine. I've manually transferred windows many times... that will always work. If I recall, there is 1 file you have to transfer outside of Windows... won't let you copy while in windows (I probably did it in Dos mode).

bardwso 02-12-2013 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by emjlr3 (Post 57530956)
i will bite @ $.50/GB

seems to be trending there


Seriously, it is time for these to come down in price. Been holding at 150-170 for a while.

andrewexd 02-12-2013 03:57 PM

Can this even be considered a deal anymore? This thing is fp every week.

LiquidSmoke420 02-12-2013 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tennisplayer888 (Post 57536462)
Wat makes it feel like 3?

For you? If they are both Asian apparently. :lol:

cconklin1 02-12-2013 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickycash (Post 57531820)
Trim with RAID 0?

for next to zero benefit, but sure...

LiquidSmoke420 02-12-2013 04:16 PM

Ok so I really need an SSD... I have been waiting for prices to come down, and I see these drives on here daily. Can I get some expert opinions on what would be my best way to go?

I do alot of 3D work, graphic design, motion graphics, rendering, and gaming on my machine. I am running off a 1TB drive, and have 2 other 1TB drives for storage.

I was thinking of getting 2 of these drives and doing a RAID set up, but then I heard if 1 of the drives dies, I would loose it all.

Then I saw this 500GB SSD for $295, but some people say its got slow write speed. Im ready to pull the trigger, just not sure what route to go. Thanks guys.

strhrn 02-12-2013 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maddoggyusa (Post 57538584)
as long as the used space you want to mirror over is less than ~235GB (the actual usable space on the 250GB), I think you'd be fine. I've manually transferred windows many times... that will always work. If I recall, there is 1 file you have to transfer outside of Windows... won't let you copy while in windows (I probably did it in Dos mode).

Thanks. But WIN 7 has two partitions:System Reserved & OS (the same like Win8). Will see how it work. I' ll try to restore it from a backup image.

superstition 02-12-2013 04:25 PM

Awful TLC NAND.

At 2xnm, it may have a P/E life of only 750 cycles. A lot of MLC is being made at 19nm, which makes the lifespan even more suspect for TLC.

doco 02-12-2013 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiquidSmoke420 (Post 57539234)
Ok so I really need an SSD... I have been waiting for prices to come down, and I see these drives on here daily. Can I get some expert opinions on what would be my best way to go?

I do alot of 3D work, graphic design, motion graphics, rendering, and gaming on my machine. I am running off a 1TB drive, and have 2 other 1TB drives for storage.

I was thinking of getting 2 of these drives and doing a RAID set up, but then I heard if 1 of the drives dies, I would loose it all.

Then I saw this 500GB SSD for $295, but some people say its got slow write speed. Im ready to pull the trigger, just not sure what route to go. Thanks guys.

for someone in your situation, i would stick with the crucial m4 or samsung 840 PRO (i repeat. PRO.)

RockySosua 02-12-2013 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strhrn (Post 57538020)
My Windows 8 "killed" (took second HDD off line and overwrote a boot partition) all operations systems (XP & Win7) on my computer recently so I had to reinstall Win 7 to a separate 320Gb drive to disable Windows 8 installation.
I'm just wondering if is it possible to migrate Win 7 from 320 Gb HDD to 250Gb SSD or I have to reinstall everything again?

P.S Got already my shipping confirmation and a tracking number. Just 40 min later after I ordered it.

The following is the easiest way to proceed. but it depends on two things.
One, that you can shrink your 320 gig hard drive to around 230 gigs and that you have an external hard drive available for the image.
It goes like this.
Control Panel, Backup and restore, Make a system image.
After making the image, it will offer you to burn a repair/restore DVD, which you do.
Then you install your SSD, boot up from the DVD, direct it to installing the image you just made, sit back and watch the show.
The next time it boots, it'll be identical to your 320 HD, only a lot faster.

If you decide to do it this way and you don't happen to know how to shrink a HD, just say so and I'll post the instructions.

LiquidSmoke420 02-12-2013 04:53 PM

oops bad copy pasta

LiquidSmoke420 02-12-2013 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doco (Post 57539584)
for someone in your situation, i would stick with the crucial m4 or samsung 840 PRO (i repeat. PRO.)

Pro is another $80. That makes me want to wait...

bsmithuga 02-12-2013 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by darksiderising (Post 57537308)
I recently (1 mo) installed one of these in my late-2009 Macbook Pro (very similar to yours) and it's been amazing. If you're still at the stock 2 or 4 GB RAM, go to the max of 8 GB while you've got the bottom of the laptop taken off. For ~$200 you'll be getting what feels like a new computer.

You'll also need a #00 Philips to unscrew the bottom of the laptop and a T6 Torx to move the hardrive screws from the old to the new. The screws are special and needed to properly hold the new SSD in place.

Have you had any compatibility issues? I read a couple reviews on Amazon of people saying it didn't work well in their MBP.

I put in 8 GB RAM a few years ago, which made a difference when I had multiple programs running at the same time (used to do some photo/video editing for a job I had back then), but if I'm not running those big programs very often anymore - where will the speed increase be noticeable? People always mention that it boots in no time (but I only turn my mbp off occasionally) and that it opens programs faster (but firefox already loads pretty quick and word is up and running fine in 30 seconds or so). Don't get me wrong - I'm not going to complain about faster speeds, just wondering if the price is worth it? Plus I'm wondering if prices on SSDs this size might be dropping sometime soon?

Requies 02-12-2013 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bsmithuga (Post 57541528)
Have you had any compatibility issues? I read a couple reviews on Amazon of people saying it didn't work well in their MBP.

I put in 8 GB RAM a few years ago, which made a difference when I had multiple programs running at the same time (used to do some photo/video editing for a job I had back then), but if I'm not running those big programs very often anymore - where will the speed increase be noticeable? People always mention that it boots in no time (but I only turn my mbp off occasionally) and that it opens programs faster (but firefox already loads pretty quick and word is up and running fine in 30 seconds or so). Don't get me wrong - I'm not going to complain about faster speeds, just wondering if the price is worth it? Plus I'm wondering if prices on SSDs this size might be dropping sometime soon?

Prices on SSDs will very likely almost always drop. It's just Moore's law in action.

And Word would likely load in < 10 seconds would be my guess, if on the SSD.

I DO think the Samsung 840 will continue to drop pretty steadily. We're only seeing the first of the TLCs coming out, so there isn't the economies of scales yet that we have with the MLCs which will get phased out of the "value" SSDs and be more of an "enthusiasts" SSD whereas the SLCs will be the enterprise grade. In addition, we'll likely see a lot more companies come out with these TLC-based SSDs which will likely drive down the price of this drive specifically.

However, if you need one now, this is a pretty good price for what you're getting. It's just that you're almost always going to find a better deal later down the road, it's more a question of do you need it now.

Whatz4Sales 02-12-2013 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tennis8363 (Post 57534126)
Unfortunately I don't have a clean copy of Win 7, only the one that came with the Dell laptop. I bought a few copies of Windows 8 for $14.99, but am hesitant to give it a run based on reviews.

Installed windows 8 a week ago. I had more problem with this than windows 7 in 1 year. This OS is worst the VISTA!

1. didn't wake up from sleep the first that after fresh installed.
2. can't open my video, pictures, and music folder. I had to delete and recreate them.
3. Had problem installing dropbox.
4. Got the blue screen, and had to reboot.

thegreat101nt 02-12-2013 07:40 PM

Dam! I just bought this exact drive from microcenter 4 days ago for 170! Should i return it for this one. would it really be worth the trouble?!

Borracho 02-12-2013 09:23 PM

Thumbs up. I've been looking to buy one of these at 150.

tennisplayer888 02-12-2013 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thegreat101nt (Post 57543094)
Dam! I just bought this exact drive from microcenter 4 days ago for 170! Should i return it for this one. would it really be worth the trouble?!

Depends, is it worth $20 to you?

superstition 02-12-2013 09:49 PM

more review info:

Performance comparison graphs:
http://www.hardocp.com/images/art...DY_8_5.png
http://www.hardocp.com/images/art...DY_8_6.png

Quote:

Originally Posted by hardocp
we can also note the very low write speeds for the TLC-equipped Samsung 840.

Quote:

Originally Posted by hardocp
The voltages we recorded with the Samsung 840 are higher than the Samsung 840 Pro across the board, and also exhibit one of the highest idle voltages that we have witnessed. This is probably due to some hefty background processes to handle the TLC NAND. The only area where the Samsung 840 performed admirably was in the Startup voltage, which came in at a very low 1.13W.

The random write voltage was unsurprisingly very high, and the sequential write voltage requirement is also on the high end. With this being a relatively new SSD, with its TLC destined to begin producing more errors over the life of the drive, we would expect these power consumption figures to grow over the life of the SSD. Even with these relatively 'fresh' readings we feel that this would not be the best SSD for mobile applications.

Quote:

Originally Posted by hardocp
The low write speed offered with the Samsung 840 Series is going to be a concern for some users. It is especially important that users with moderate to heavy write workloads carefully weigh other options before making the jump to a TLC SSD. The low write speed will be an immediate problem in large file transfer situations, and endurance will be a long-term problem. It is also important to note that the 120GB model of this SSD only has a sequential write speed of 130MB/s and random read IOPS of 32,000, significantly lower than the lackluster write performance that we observed today in our testing.

Including a thermal pad for the controller would help to keep the device cool. We would like to see thermal pads with this SSD when we take the higher power consumption figures from TLC NAND into consideration.

Our steady state testing essentially places a workload upon the SSD until it is forced to begin running the internal management routines and garbage collection during actual usage. This is especially important with this type of NAND as it is definitely going to experience far more data errors than MLC over time. This will create increasing overhead for the MDX controller over the lifetime of the device. The read speed degradation that we observed is worrisome due to the fact that the increasing error rates can trigger these drive management routines, in effect creating read speed degradation in lower usage scenarios than with MLC NAND.

The extreme loss of write performance in steady state in our Iometer testing can also be a sign of long term performance issues in steady state as the NAND ages.


wilflare 02-12-2013 11:01 PM

how does this compare to the Plextor M5 Pro

cwing 02-12-2013 11:15 PM

Picked up 5 for some ThinkPad X230s! Really wish the 840 Pros go on sale.

strhrn 02-13-2013 04:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockySosua (Post 57539904)
The following is the easiest way to proceed. but it depends on two things.
One, that you can shrink your 320 gig hard drive to around 230 gigs and that you have an external hard drive available for the image.
It goes like this.
Control Panel, Backup and restore, Make a system image.
After making the image, it will offer you to burn a repair/restore DVD, which you do.
Then you install your SSD, boot up from the DVD, direct it to installing the image you just made, sit back and watch the show.
The next time it boots, it'll be identical to your 320 HD, only a lot faster.

If you decide to do it this way and you don't happen to know how to shrink a HD, just say so and I'll post the instructions.

Thanks. I was going to go this route anyway. Will see how it works.
To ppl concerning about the prices/quality this is a full kit (not just barebone drive) with 3 years samsung warranty. It will be obsolite in 3 years anyway.

Chaminda 02-13-2013 07:32 AM

Sold out

slippyfox 02-13-2013 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Whatz4Sales (Post 57542172)
Installed windows 8 a week ago. I had more problem with this than windows 7 in 1 year. This OS is worst the VISTA!

1. didn't wake up from sleep the first that after fresh installed.
2. can't open my video, pictures, and music folder. I had to delete and recreate them.
3. Had problem installing dropbox.
4. Got the blue screen, and had to reboot.

So you learned to clean install? (usually fixes most of my upgrade from 7 to 8 woes)

Does anyone know where to snag the little white USB to SATA adapter that comes with this kit? I had one from a 830 full kit, and it's gotten lost at my office. Wanted to buy a few of them. Really nice and tiny (easy to throw in a work bag).

Whatz4Sales 02-13-2013 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slippyfox (Post 57552002)
So you learned to clean install? (usually fixes most of my upgrade from 7 to 8 woes)

I have been building computers for 15 years; I know what I'm doing. It is a fresh installed on an intel 330 ssd.

My setup is different from from users because I have to video with 3 monitors setup.

Windows 8 is made for tablet, not desktop.

JabberWockey 02-13-2013 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zhopa (Post 57532444)
Why would you even be surfing this deal if you're going to buy of enterprise use?

Just giving some perspective. Relax.

wilflare 02-14-2013 12:23 AM

sad I missed this ><

javacafe 02-14-2013 01:32 PM

Just received mine.

Is there a good online resource (that will tell me like I am child) with step-by-step directions for someone who will be migrating the OS and some of the programs from a 1 TB disk to this one?

TIA.

strhrn 02-15-2013 05:53 PM

Got this SSD today.
Free Acronis True Image from Western Digital has cloned Windows 7 from HDD to SD in about 15 minutes. Just in 2 clicks. I didn't make any special modification neither to SSD or HDD. Acronis done everything for me.

GrandMstrBud 02-16-2013 10:47 AM

Dead so thumbs down


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