Macbook Pro Retina 13" 256GB 2.5Ghz i5 Refurb $1359 Apple Store
 

Very good price on the 256GB model. $1359 (original price $1699) Free Shipping. Came to $1443 with Tax.

Comes with 1 Year Apple Warranty from purchase date.

Use ShopDiscover for an extra 5% back if you have it you could knock off another $70.

Better price than the 128GB Model and I am sure for resale value in the future as 128GB is worth about this price used.

I know they bumped the processor up to 2.6 from 2.5 Ghz in the $1699 New 13 Retina 256GB model but this is still a far greater value for more than $300 less.

Apple Laptops are like an investment, try to get them at a good price and then you likely will get more money back than you would on a Windows machine however many years later. Can vouch for the retina display being a completely different experience for me on a laptop. Very beautiful. Good luck all.

http://store.apple.com/us/product...y#overview

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128 SSD now available for 1269 USD

Apple Store [apple.com]

-Goonerboi

Barely more with new retail box... get it as prices are looking good! - swa2k4
http://slickdeals.net/f/5859048-B...unner-2day

Not a bad price. If I didn't get mine I would've jumped on this.

Everyone knows Apple refurbs are brand new just different packaging.

One year warranty from apple. So I suspect it is pretty much near new, if not a fake "used" computer in order to qualify for pricing agreements.

That being said, they're driving a 2560 x 1600 screen with HD 4000? Seems kind of underpowered. These no discrete gpu retina designs are really for the upcoming Haswells with the big gpus, not for IVB with HD 4000.

too bad the 128GB version isn't as cheap...

wake me up when price is under 1K....

Didn't want to start a new thread just for this, but the 15" MacBook Pro with Retina Display with quad core 2.3GHz processor is now $1779

http://store.apple.com/us/product/FC975LL/A

15.4-inch (diagonal) Retina display; 2880-by-1800 resolution at 220 pixels per inch
8GB of 1600MHz DDR3L SDRAM
256GB Flash Storage
720p FaceTime HD Camera
NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M with 1GB of GDDR5 memory

It was previously about $100 more or so. Seriously thinking about adding it to my cart.

No its a used 13", intergrated graphics, computer for over $1400.

By the time you were woken up, they would be sold out.

Thin and light ultrabook with that quality of a screen and that horsepower under 1k would be ridiculous.

I like the specs but I just cant stand the fact that everything is integrated. I like to have user replaceable parts. One of the reasons why I have the previous 13" model, so I can buy the cheapest one and upgrade the RAM and HDD myself, as well as removing the superdrive and adding in a 2nd hard drive.

There, I fixed it for you.

Humm thats odd it's cheaper than the refub 128GB version. If it wasn't already typing one I'd be game.

A shitty PC for $500? :roll

Apple just reduced the price of the 13" retina $200 to $1499 today, making this lukewarm.

That is for the 128GB model. This is a 256GB for 1359...albeit refurbished but regular education price for the 256GB is even $1599 so we can save $240 at least here.

To the Mac haters lol ... I will be selling my Mac laptop for 200 less than I paid 1.5-2 years later. You will be throwing your PC in the trash.

The fact that this is the 256GB version and not the 128GB version makes this deal even better. If they had a 128GB version for $150 - $200 cheaper, it would be even better. This is a good deall!

Weird how this 256GB version is cheaper than the refurb 128gb version.

not Weird this is a limited quantity sale to get rid of all their 2.5Ghz stock because they just updated the 256GB version to 2.6Ghz. negligible difference but hey im trying to save $250 and get it for $1359 (from 1699 or 1599education disc) and have less loss when I sell it whenever that may be...If you can invest this much into a Mac ..this is a great option great deal.

Apple refurbs are not used... If a component didn't pass QC, they would replace the part and mark that laptop as a refurbished. So all of their "refurbished" have never been in a customer's hand.

Super hot. I'm still waiting on my Barclays NFL card from last week (with the $400 credit for $1000 in purchases) otherwise I would buy this right this second.

That is the most ridiculous statement I've ever heard. EVERYONE knows? Apple's refurbished items are like new but not new. You can walk in and trade our iphone in for another one (within 1 year) for any reason too. You are getting a refurbished model btw, not a new one. Looking it up on their site will also tell you that it is refurbished.

BTW this specific model (256GB SSD) was $1,999 (new, not refurb) until today.

You sure the Intel chip is the same chip? Maybe it's a 2.6 Ivy Bridge vs 2.5 Sandy Bridge. Then yes it would make a difference. Engadget seems to say that the 2.5 is a dual core Sandy Bridge and the Ivy Bridge one is a quad core....with a 60% increase in graphics processing power.

"a refresh of the existing MacBook Pro running Intel's newer Ivy Bridge processors on the San Francisco gathering's opening day. The 13- and 15-inch portables run up to 2.7GHz quad Core i7s (turbo up to 3.7GHz), carry up to 8GB of RAM and have GeForce GT 650M-based graphics 60 percent faster than the previous generation..."

I apologize it will be classified as Refurbished sure...but it will look 100% unused and include a full 1 year warranty. I can vouch for Apple being of very very good quality and reliability in having their laptops for the last 8 years. Likely a refurb part did not pass QC as someone mentioned and it has been replaced and warrantied.

Thanks for clearing me up sir!

Definitely a good price even if they put the new 2.6Ghz on refurb sale later @ 15% off list of $1699 ($1444 est).

They are Ivy Bridge only on the Retina display macs. Sandy Bridge would not be in there at all. GL

seriously.. used computer for $1450??
lame.

To be honest, people really should get the 15" model with dedicated GPU if you are doing any serious computing on a laptop.

^^ This.

...And never mind any "serious" computing, this integrated GPU retina display Mac cannot even open a somewhat graphical website like http://theverge.com without lagging.

You are right, same chipset. Just 100mhz difference. Both 13 inchers are dual core vs the quad core 15inch. I think I will continue holding out for the new ones in June. A $300 for a newer chip is not going to hurt me too much at such a high price already. The newer chip is supposed to have a higher battery life. I am waiting for the magic 10 hour mark to be reached before I jump in.

apple refurbs come with 0 marking presenting them as refurbs, literally cant tell the difference other than the box they arrive in.

price out a 256gb ssd ultrabook, compare to the price of this,
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Pro...gb&x=0&y=0

then in a couple years put each on craigslist,

guess which one will have the better net price?

Apple stuff in general resells much better than pc if you sell at the right time, and especially if you pay less than retail to begin with. I recently sold a 5 year old mac pro for 1250, after tax considerations it averaged <$20 a month to own. Looking to hit a similar rate with the 15" rmbp replacing it.

Apple is only overpriced if you're dumb about it.

Apple's resale value is overrated too much. You can easily buy a Macbook pro or Air which are not the newest models but still under warranty in craigslist for 70-80% of their original market price. Price will be higher in eBay but don't forget 10-12% fee.

No, I wont, I will be upgrading it when I see fit when it does not preform whatever tasks I need it to anymore. Total cost so far on a machine that has lasted me 3 years. 800 dollars. It is a desktop so that is a lot of the price difference but I have no need for a laptop anymore (sold mine for 300 less then i bought it for (was a pc not a mac)). So this statement is pretty ignorant.

I work in IT and work with both daily and it is a different strokes different folks sort of thing for me. I just prefer the windows OS and I can pay a lot less for a machine with much better specs.

I would like to buy this but I just spent $2000 on a purse for my g/f for valentines day.:(

Bought one. The 128GB SSD version is more expensive. I expect within 6 months the new chipsets will be out (Intel Haswell) and they should be providing 25-40% boost in processing power over Ivy Bridge. I'll make a switch then, when they have another refurb deal :)

Awesome... Thanks OP. Sold my 2010 MAcbook pro for $670 (bought for $980). This one will be a best replacement.

This was my plan as well! lol People just dont understand... when they sell the 128GB version for more even a refurb this is a rare deal to jump on... but you know what I agree with the guy saying PC vs Mac different strokes different lifestyles sure. I have just returned my Windows 8 Lenovo Yoga I tried out for a month and it was a great concept but terrible execution unless you like a desktop like fan blowing all the time lol..

There are good PCs out there.. if you want one.. I prefer Mac OS. for retina with 256GB ...still $400 less than the 15in model. this should suffice for 90% of people. spending $1359 is good if you are on that type of budget. If I was on the $1800 budget id go 15 retina pro.

it's not about being a MAC hater but about the value for your own money...This is a very expensive USED laptop for the specs. You can buy a much better PC for the price and then install the OS of your choice.

need to wait until tax free weekend to buy something like this. over $100 tax for such a high price item.

I used a be Mac hater and loved my SD $300 laptops until I changed jobs and they forced us to use Macbooks. I think they are overpriced, but they are quality laptops.

Great battery performance, the audio sounds great for movies, screen resolution is crisp (great for coders and designers).

Worth it if you want a quality laptop for work. For casual use like email, I'd stick with a SD $300 laptop.

Fit and Finish go a long way sorry. Macbooks are still much much better in build quality... I have an android phone over an iphone but I like HTC's build quality. I have yet to find a comparable PC in solid feel. Asus came close but still there are many issues with their trackpads or in general Mac OS is just superior in efficiency in my opinion and of course an OPINION is what it is!

also this is not used its Apple Refurbished which looks brand new no scratches or anyhting. full 1 year warranty from purchase date.. they just replaced a part that didnt make QC and put it in a different box. not used.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Pro...gb&x=0&y=0


you should probably just stop posting till you've tried a refurb apple, the only tangible difference is the box.

And how do you buy and install Mac OSX on a PC legally?

I want proof when you do so.

tim cook increased macbook prices and ruined itunes

Hey , did you buy any of these lines?

Panasonic Toughbook
IBM ThinkPad
HP Elitebook
Dell Precision

ok i agree it is like new but in my opinion it's expensive.

I deal with different OS everyday so I can install the OS i like...and sometimes I dual boot. Its just comes down to your preference.

Build quality? I'll put my Lenovo x220 to the test against any Macbook product. And don't get me wrong, I like Mac products, they are built well. But come on.

IBM ThinkPads were built even better than lenovo ThinkPads but of course IBM made laptops for rich people lol.

"No, because they don't have iMessages like the Macbook. Might as well throw all those PC's in the trash" - swa2k4

I actually dont even have an iMessage account. I prefer gchat which is universal. The PCs that will be in the trash are ones that arent even worth selling cause you lost so much. Use them till they die for sure... I just prefer having a Later model mac and buy at a good price like this deal and sell losing little after some time goes by. The demand is there no one can deny that for selling. Have an open mind and try it out for a week and you may just like it. but if you dont want to its up to you. Good luck

Not sure if it applies to all Macbook Pro Retina models, but it's been called the most difficult notebook to fix. So I would take FULL advantage of that warranty.

http://www.newsy.com/videos/retin...er-to-fix/

That is $1499 for the 128GB model. Upgrading to 256GB costs $200 from there. This is the 256GB model, so really you have to compare this to $1699. The new models are only a slight processor upgrade, so getting a previous gen refurb to save $340 makes a lot of sense if you've been wanting this particular machine.

The strange thing is that the refurb 128GB model hasn't come down in price yet.

The two Mac laptops I own were both refurbs (from Apple). They are basically the same as a new machine. Same warranty and in perfect condition. You just don't get the retail box for it, that's the only discernable difference. My next Mac laptop will probably be a refurb, too.

I agree 15" is the way to go for anything more than surfing the web, email, etc. Just the 13" is too much money for a computer at $1400. Now the 15" is way too much for a computer. Tempted to get a Mac for wife as she just wants a computer that aways just "works" but her $500.00 dell has lasted 4 years and has the same specks as a MBP for $1,200.00. Plus the Dell does email and the web just as well as the MBP. I am trying to convince myself MBP is worth it (I use two for work) but it is hard to justify the money for what you get.

Dell (i5, 8gb ram) for $500 and MBP (i5, 8gb ram) for $500 I would go with the MBP all day long. Dell (i5, 8gb ram) for $500 and MBP (i5, 8gb ram) for $1400... its just hard to justifty the extra money.

FYI: 8GB of ram on a OS X platform is more than on Windows. I would want to say that 8GB on a Mac is like 16GB on a Windows machine because the difference is a bloated OS vs. an efficient one. You may do a research on how each OS is built and its look into its efficiency.

You paid $2000 for a purse??? Was that made by Apple.

I have this computer. It has no problem pushin retina display. I am also able to hook it to my 46 inch LED to play 1080p no problem. Looks great! Love the retine screen

It isn't bad on the 13 inch retina because you can scale the display to get the same real estate as the classic 15 inch macbook pro. Even more if you wanted but then it becomes too small.

And now stitching an SSD and HDD together to a FUSION drive! It's awesome.

Purse? Which brand?

As I mentioned earlier, I bought one and here are my thoughts:

If you're going to use it to the ground, then this is one expensive pony to own. If you don't love it, it's a debatable subject. If you do, it justifies itself.

If you're going to resell it within a year or two, this is THE cheapest quality laptop you can buy due to its resale value and the discounting available through this situation. Your other choices include the Samsung 9 series, Asus Zenbook, Lenovo X1 Carbon (and they're not that cheap either). This is a value proposition to own a piece of high-tech hardware since I'm a tech-geek like that. The only downside is a large $1.4k+ deposit and the hassle to sell it later (less of a hassle than attempting to sell a used PC). Plus, rarely do you ever find a 1 yr warranty on a refurbished computer, so this one is very easy to resell with low risk to the buyer if done within a year. You can ask many people who have tried to fix broken Apple products at the Apple Store. It's mostly a smooth experience and often you end up with a brand new laptop same day if your old one died under warranty.

Good luck!

The iPurse with Retina

In for one... Tired of the crappy TN panels in other laptops... No regrets at all.

He's so sweet that he bought his gf a nice bag.. come on.. I told myself that when I bought me a 15" rMBP, no new bag this yr.. and yes, the 15" rMBP is way cheaper than the bag I want to get.. so..

Did I ask you?

Louis Vuitton. They never go onsale so I got reamed in the butt.

I have the Lenovo thinkpad T60. I love it.. I had it since 2007.. I tried to get the same thing again w/ better specs.. it came out to be $1800 something.. so I chose the 15" rMBP instead.. not much difference from the deal I got.. and now I totally love it.. for me, either Lenovo thinkpad of rMBP..

The refurb 15" Macbook Pro with discrete graphics and 8 GB memory looks like a better deal if you are okay with paying another $400.

Nice, which one? I am looking a purse to surprise my wife.

Artsy

2k purse doesn't sound very slickdealish.

Let me know how it compares to the Dreamcolor screen in your HP mobile workstation.

Because LV doesn't have outlets, never go onsale, and no coupons. They destroy whatever they can't sell instead of putting them onsale because they don't want to devalue their brand. If you want LV for y our woman, you have to pay full price. Or buy a fake.

Good thing i don't want lv for my woman.

Its her birthday today, shes getting the laundry room finished.

And i bought a griddle yesterday.

Sammitches and laundry, bam! Birthday and valentines sorted.

Why would a woman want a 2k purse? Can someone explain that to me?

I don't want LV for mine either but she wants them.

What's so special about a purse that costs $2000 besides the cost?

During the 10% open box promo, I bought a MacBook Pro with Retina Display 13 2.5 128 open box at Best Buy for $1250 before tax. For another $109, I get double the memory (256), which is a steal!

I checked the SF Bay Area Best Buy online website for clearance / open box 13 2.5 256, but only saw that Union City, California had a "good" condition for $1560. I doubt they'd be able to meet or beat Apple's $1359 refurb price. (Union City also shows an open box 13 2.5 128 for $1300, but I doubt they'd drop the price any further despite Apple's price drop to $1500 from $1700.)

Most online retailers--Amazon, Best Buy--seem to only discount the brand new 13 2.5 256 by $100 to $1900 from $2000 to account for the the new model's 100 MHz speed bump. B&H discounted by $120 to $1880.

Thanks for spotting the Apple refurb, OP. This is a really great deal!

I don't know either but that is what most women like. I tried to convince her to go for Burberry because they have outlets and I can use coupons at some retailers for them.

Coach - for poor women
Burberry, Gucci, & Prada - mid range and you can get deals.
LV, Channel, Hermes - top end and you will always pay full retail

The reason people buy a $2000 purse is because they can. Something about elitism and capitalism.

I am looking for a Prada purse for my woman. Do you know where I can get it on a deal? Thanks in advance

I think there's an outlet at Paragons outlet..

I like your comment.. yup.. I had my first LV since I was 16.. now, after having 10+ LV bags, I'm all up for Hermes... not even Chanel... It's the Bags that sold!

To all the Mac haters, continue living your life shopping at the 99c store and GTFO mac threads :}

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Whos the sugar daddy?!

Prada doesn't have that many outlets. Only CA, TX, and FL have them. CA has 4 Prada outlets.

Just because someone hates Mac laptops doesn't mean they are poor.

Stupid awesome deal. Just bought a new 128gb for $1400 the other day on eBay. Grr.

once of the misconceptions why "rich people" must have a mac nowadays

My g/f is not asking for Hermes yet. When that day comes I will be paying out the ass for one.

Is the i5 enough for the 13" MBP or is it worth spending extra for the dual core i7? Personaly IF i was to get one I would do the i7 13" MBP over the i5 13" MBP with retina.

I hate to be that guy but its 2013 and not 1995. 2k is not a lot of money to spend on a purse and LV is not really considered a luxury brand. Take the LV back and save up. If you have 5 or 6k you can get a nice Chanel. You can get a Celine for 3 or 4k. There is a reason that you can go buy a LV purse without waiting or being pre-selected. There is a good forum called the purse blog that will help you understand why you shouldn't buy LV/Gucci/Prada. :cool:

Wow. Just wow. No one on this website should be paying even 10% of what you just paid for a stupid purse.

$2,000 for a purse? Really? Have you completely lost your mind?

Just wondering how many people actually use MBP's for coding? If so, which platform, OSX dev, .NET dev, other do you use. I think I read previously that most people get macs because you can only code OSX stuff on macs. You can easily run windows on a mac, but it's much much harder going the other way from running a osx on a windows pc. One thing that worries me about macs is that the screens are very reflective. I'm not a big fan of that, but I've never had to deal with it, so maybe it won't be that much of an issue. I hear that the screens resolution works really well for coding too.

I keep telling myself that I would like to one day, play around with coding for OSX, but that may not be until later this year or the next. I'm definitely a procrastinator :)

I currently use my work laptop HP EliteBook for coding of course and surfing at home. I don't have a dedicated laptop at home. I guess I never needed one. My wife has an older Thinkpad T60 that I had to upgrade the ram and ssd, but that's for her and she just does mainly surfing, but also does some photoshop type stuff re-imaging pics now and again, but that laptop is getting a bit older as I bought back in 2008 or so.

I've always been surprised at the prices of macs, but they must be worth it for people to keep buying them, or maybe its just a trend thing. My cousins has macs and they mainly use for surfing and so that is just ridiculous to spend that much on a laptop to surf imo. But I see alot of developers with them, so they must be good. I know since this is my career, it makes sense to invest in a good laptop for coding and other stuff. I like how the newer laptops allow you to use it as a laptop as well as switching to a tablet with touch. I didn't get to play long, but the Lenovo Yoga was pretty cool and I see how people like the Dell X12 flip screen too. Not sure if those laptops/tablets are powerful enough to code and surf/stream with. I won't be playing games on there so it doesn't have to have the best graphics or screen, but seeing how if I get a new laptop, it's probably better to get a good screen with at least 1080p.

Quick question, if you have to remote onto a server for work, a Windows Server machine, how do you do it on a mac? I'm assuming there is a tool to allow you to remote into a server, but I was wondering if you had to run a program like parallels (I think that is what its called) that you would have to run windows first before remoting into the other server?

Thanks and sorry for the questions but just wanted to get peoples opinion about coding and streaming on macs vs other windows laptops.

If you want a real tablet , I'd recommend the Fujitsu Lifebook T902

I would of just bought her a knock off for 50 bucks and she would never have know the diference...:lmao:

Just bought one. I was going to wait for the new version thats out in June, but I think I'd still get back what I paid today in June.

Why would I pay for something that:
has a integrated graphics to drive a 2560 x 1600 screen
too thick to be an ultrabook
too weak to be a normal laptop
used
more than $1300

My Macbook dual boots OSX and Windows 7. Apple makes this easy - look up something called Bootcamp. There are also easy ways to remote into Windows boxes even without Bootcamp.

I boot into OSX for XCode and iOS development. I boot into Windows 7 for most activities including .net and Java/Android development.

Even when I'm not doing iOS development, I exclusively use Windows 7 on a mac. The hardware really is that much better. Other manufacturers compete on price by skimping on quality. I don't want to make that sacrifice - development is my living.

The superior trackpad is worth a few hundred dollars by itself to me.

even a fake will cost several hundred dollars.

Most girls can spot a fake one a mile away. My g/f even taught me how to.

This is soo tempting... I want to sell my air for this...

yup.. now-a-day 2k for a bag is normal... you're a sweet guy..

I specifically use my MBP for coding purposes, which I primarily do PHP/Java coding through NetBeans. I also have VM Fusion setup with several virtual machines, each development environment (typically SUSE) I work with as well as a Windows OS.

That having been said, there are proprietary applications I work with which I have to use a provided Windows laptop for (Dell, ugh) but this can be easily circumvented by using Synergy as a virtual KVM and only using the Dell when I have to.

I highly recommend coding on a MBP as compared to Windows, I've always felt there is more control and a much, much better command line interface with the UNIX base. The one thing I suggest though is not to buy into the new MBP line. I hate to say it, but I feel like they really killed part of the 'pro' crowd by not being allowed to update the machines myself. Everything being soldered/glued in place really kills it. I currently run a 17" 2011 MBP and love it, I've changed out the HD for a 500GB SSD, the RAM for 16GB and am more than happy with performance. Not being able to make these updates in the case of HD or RAM failure/upgrade is a very disappointing step.

Who is buying a 2 year old computer for only 200 less than what you bought it for? Unless you got it at wholesale price I would suspect that's only a 400 savings on the MSRP. So again, who would buy that?

People still pay $700 for a refurbished Core 2 Duo based MBP so that wouldn't surprise me

What do you think in terms of extra power this 13" retina has which macbook air can't. Think about it this way.

Refurbished Macbook Retina 13" with 256GB, 8GB RAM for $1359 + $200 for Apple care (3 years warranty)
New Macbook Air 13" with 256GB for $1499, 8GB RAM (2 Yrs AMEX Coverage)

I looked at the CPU benchmarks for both the processors and there is very little difference.

Refurb Macbook pro w/Retina around 3800 whereas Macbook air around 3600

Not to forget the sleekness you get with air.

What are you thoughts about this thinking from developers point of view, who does 30% Coding and 70% other stuff like office, internet etc.

Thanks for you feedback. I am on the fence with similar needs.
What config do you have & recommend? I don't mind a refurb.

I don't mean they're poor, I mean they're cheap. Idea of buying more shit for cheap rather then one expensive thing.

I bought a 2008 aluminum macbook off Cowboom used for 504 + tax.. 2 years ago, I sold it a few months ago for 500 flat. Their value is incredible.

Hope you brought a nice pillow. Cause you'll be sleeping for a looong time.

APPLE why did you do this to me? killing my macbook reselling business. :/

Too many people here would rather pay a cheap price for a cheap product, rather than paying a good price for a great product.

Buy a MBP/MBA or Apple product doesn't make you rich. It is just a laptop, everyone can have it.
Take a work around campus or starbucks. People have mac more than pc recently.

Honestly, MBP is not that expensive.

Yea , I'd rather buy an HP 8770w with the 10 Bit IPS panel display option than a low quality laptop with a TN panel display but most people wouldn't do that.

In for 1.

I used to be a mac hater, declaring they are over priced and such, but when the aluminum bodies came out, my mind has changed completely. Apple is unique in a way that they are able to harmonize both software and hardware together, as suppose to a PC where the OS and hardware don't always harmonize and become efficient.

I have friends who code, and some do love the retina, simply because of real estate for coding. I don't code so I never dug in deeper but it makes sense to me.

As a photographer I decided to buy this for multiple of reasons

1. It works and if I have an issue, I live near 2 Apple stores and with my iphone they have always been great.
2. Chose this over the air cause of the CPU power and the weight is very close (on top of my head about 1/2 lbs)
3. I moderately game DOTA and CSGO and this GPU is able to handle it
4. Real Estate is amazing. Being able to see my photos in natural resolution (Have a 21.1 MP camera)
5. This option is cheaper than the 1515.00 I was about to spend on a 13" mbp with 128GB
6. Reselling apples are very easy compared to PCs. Core2Duo age old Macs are still being sold 700-900 USD which to me is ridiculous.

Forgot

7. IPS panel I love them

I value the Retina Display. If I were to value size (and I do travel a ton), I'd rather get the 11-inch MacBook Air. You don't have to take the 11-inch out at the airport security checkpoint. I figured since I was going to take it out at security every time, a 13-inch rMBP made more sense for me than a 13-inch MBA.

If you love IPS panel displays , don't forget about this laptop [hp.com]

It comes to what you need it for. Performance wise they look similar but the performance still differs in terms of CPU power and its relationship with the GPU. 1.7 to 2.5 the GPU is going to behave differently.

http://www.primatelabs.com/blog/2...enchmarks/

As for programers, I can imagine real estate is going to help

Thanks for pointing out this link, but looks like the benchmark on this is complete different from - http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.p...40+2.50GHz

So what you are saying is Refurb Retina is better then Air for programmers. And yes GPU performance is not a very big factor for me as i don't play games.

Thoughts ?

Then you are wrong. Women who knows Hermes and LV can tell. Learned that from experience

Not what I was saying. Just saying that's one reason I can see a programmer wanting it. It all comes down to preference. Do you need that extra real estate? or is that extra .5 lbs important as well as the thinness?

Looks pretty I like it, but at this moment I want something light and 13" and still have an IPS panel and all that I mentioned before. Later in the year plan to go on a RTW and want something portable to edit videos and pics, carrying this would kill me :) maybe when I get back I can use it as a desktop replacement. Thanks!

No lags on that site with my $280 refurb 13" Dell Latitude e4300 with a Intel GMA 4500 pushing 1280x800. :) I say that somewhat jokingly, in that the laptop is $1000 cheaper (even with aftermarket 128GB SSD) and it hauls ass. I use it for GIS, R, STATA, photoshop, etc. and do not have any complaints. Looks good and is sturdy too. Can swap out 2 slots of RAM, put in a second HDD in the DVD bay. It really cannot handle more than its native resolution in video playback though, but is that worth $1000?

I currently have the Macbook Air i5.

I am looking to upgrade to either a Retina MBP or MBP. Really leaning towards the older MBP because you can change out the ram to 16GB. While the ram in retina MBP is soldered into the motherboard.

Any thoughts of this? Macbook Pro i7 8gb for $1239

http://store.apple.com/us/product...e-intel-i7

My only hiccup before picking a tab on this one will be the resolution, because you can replace everything else. it is really - really outdated 1280 X 800. What say ?

How, by you own measure, is that overrated? Getting 70-80% of original price on an older used piece of tech is fantastic.

Any more thoughts on this ?

thanks kanye

Thanks dubleo. I'm not going to lie, I probably would not buy a $1500+ Fujitsu. I haven't researched their products, so I'm being a little picky here, but I haven't heard of that brand being top tier. I could be wrong though.

Thanks mikebpi! Yeah I sort of heard about Bootcamp where it allows you to dual boot OS's, but I think it also allows you to share you folders across OS's, or something like that, which is nice. Thanks for the input. I didn't think about getting a MBP and just using it as a Windows most of the time, but that does make sense if I were to go that route.

Thanks for the info nrdk00! Yeah, I didn't like how all the stuff was soldered on not allowing upgrades on the new MBP's. I may have to find a used one, like last years model without the retina display and soldered on ram, etc.

I guess having a MBP is one of those things where if you've never had one, you don't know what you're missing. And then maybe once you've had one, you can't see yourself with another laptop, even with the expensive price tag.......hmmmm...I may have to jump on board...just maybe....

Your right. Shitty resolution on the older macbook pro.

Only thing I really cared for was the ability to upgrade the ram to 16gb.

Excellenet price. Thanks OP... got one!

The question is, is it worth upgrading to the newest Macbook Pro retina display?

I currently have the i5 Macbook Air 13 inch with 4gb ram. I just hate how my CPU over heats sometimes and the fan gets quite loud and my ram gets pretty low when I multi task

Why are these so expensive??? Is it because of Brand or Quality???
I know both but trying to find how much extra are we paying for the brand.

1400 for an i5, no thanks.

I'm on the same boat as you... I have an air and wanted a 13" retina but the price turned me off and the price I got the air for cannot be beat at all. Basically i'll spend an extra 500-600 more to trade the air in for this retina but I'm not sure if it's worth it to wait.

It's worth it I used to have the air i5 1.7 13 256 this is far nicer and will hold its value better since the new haswell airs are due to come out this summer. Its a good time to swap at this price. its not so much faster but its screen is amazing and keyboard is better ..weight only .5 more but smaller footprint surprisingly smaller bezel edges. Go for it or get less for ur old air later.

Your right. $500-600 isn't worth trading it in for practically the same laptop. Just a bit quicker processor and 4GB of ram.

Still love the lightness and thinness of the air.

Oh, new air is coming out this summer? Will it be a whole different frame or will they use the same frame just newer processor?

People who paid $1299 for the 13 inch macbook air in 2011 will lose like $500 if they were to resell it right now. Luckily I paid $900 back when Amazon had 20% off all laptops. I could almost break even if I resell right now on eBay.

I just wish these stupid Macbook's ram are expandable. Then I wouldn't be in this stupid situation. :mad:

You are the one that should learn from experience that women who want expensive things are mostly gold diggers that will bleed you till you are dry.. I for one will not be a part of that statistic that you are proudly in. :lol:

The reason I want this is for the screen.. You're really making it harder. I'm just worried that as soon as I buy this the price if retinas will drop since they'll be more widely available. Plus all those things people say about app problems since some apps aren't ready fit retina yet.

Come on now.. be nice.. I know some ppl choose expensive stuffs over the cheap ones, like myself.. I have no problem w/ ppl chosing cheap stuffs, it's their choices.. but I know for sure that once you go for the expensive stuffs, you'll never want to try the cheap ones.. so let it be...

I wish they were able to throw in the dedicated GPU into this lil guy!

i wish i had paid up the $14 for 2-3 day shipping. mine shipped w/ a 2/21 delivery date :(

No one is trying to impress you. Just want to point out the fact that some people buy nice stuffs because they can afford it and because they want to. Nothing to do with being dumb or smart.

You like to count your money. And I like to spend mine. To each their own

Out of stock...for now anyway.

EDIT: never mind, it was OOS for a minute and now according to Refurb.me they just added 63 units.

i don't understand the reference

All reputable sources roughly estimate about a 10-15% boost in processing power. Why would any CPU maker roll out something with a 40% boost? They'd cannibalize their own sales in all of their other CPUs.

Haswell's performance boost is negligible. But where it really shines is going to be battery life and integrated graphics performance.

Why would I throw a computer worth $1000 in the trash? It's also ~2 years old

restocked, just bought 1

Thanks! In for one

not to mention on valentines day! LOL imagine if it was her birthday

Do you have a mortgage or any other large debt?


Being able to "afford" is a relative term.

lol. how many women go around comparing real vs fake hermes/LV?

I KNOW right? I thought I was the only one thinking the same.

All the guys proudly got pressured into buying a 2k purse for GF, but still browsing slickdeals to save a few dollars here and there... I mean... REALLY? That's enough irony to open a hipster academy

He is a hypocrite, here he flaunts he is buying his gold digger a 2k purse and he still comes to slickdeals to save money which he claims he doesn't need to as he has alot of money to spend.

It was good deal for one day, bestbuy has dropped the price for this macbook pro, the same new one is selling for $1499

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Apple...&cp=1&lp=2

Ordered one yesterday from Apple, and it's shipped, but it will go back to Apple.

Mmmm, nothing like getting a good deal as Apple rapes your wallet.

Anyone know of a windows laptop with similar specs that is around the same price?

11-13" screen
HDMI
2560-by-1600 resolution
Less then an inch thin and less then 4lbs

Let me know if the sex is any better after you give her the purse .. my guess is you will have to ask the other guys she is seeing to find that out :lmao:

j/k of course

Great deal! In for one.

only Gold diggers and skanks do that.

They have the 128GB version for 1269 now.

http://store.apple.com/us/product...na-display

LOL sex was awesome with that gold digger and i didn't have to buy her a 2k purse either...

i know they showed a bunch of WQHD laptops this year at CES, and samsung announced a series 9 WQHD last year that still isn't out...not sure if anything is out yet

I'm gonna wait till next gen intel processor. I'm pretty sure the price would be the same.

lol 13" for $1359.

people are actually paying by the masses for a gimmick.

This is tempting. I have a 3 year old machine which I am trying to figure if I should sell it to buy this one.

If amazon price matches, the 256GB refurb is going back to Apple...

Status. Quality is good too, but it is really about the bling.

around this area (central ish ma) things absolutely arent like they were in 08-10, but there are still a number of places around if you look.

I had my offer in by noon of the first full day on market, saw listing from an automatic email notification in the afternoon, was there with the listing agent the next morning. Still were multiple competing offers in the time between the offer and acceptance.

Like all deals, timing is everything. With foreclosures it isn't like the casual browsing of traditional listings.

Slim doesn't mean none are available.

Yeah right? Nothing goes wrong in good neighborhoods.

I just checked Refurb.me and there is only one left in stock. Whoever wants it go for it! fyi

cool story, bro

retina on 13'' is way over kill lol

Sorry to ruin all the foreclosure property discussions, but since you guys are already off topic, can someone please help me make a decision? I'm looking for a laptop for my wife and she wants something that's light (4.5lbs or less), powerful (handle basic Photoshop), has no intake/exhaust ports at the bottom of the laptop, minimum 13.3" monitor (14-15" preferred), long lasting battery (3-4hr min), backlit keyboard, SD card and last but not least well built.

I've been looking around all the Ultrabook offerings and I'm hard pressed to find anything that doesn't have intake/exhaust ports at the bottom and when I do, I find that it still costs about as much as a MacBook Pro for similar hardware. So I'm thinking of just getting her a MacBook Pro and installing Windows 7 on it.

Looking for advice on potentially any PC offerings I may have missed out there? I really want her to have something with good build quality (Apple, HP EliteBook, etc). I don't want it to be lightened so much just to have a light specs where the screen bends every time it's opened, etc. We were hoping to stay in the ~$1k price range (about the price of an entry level MBP or MBA 13").

Thanks a lot!

P.S. She currently has a Dell Studio 14z which is almost 4-years old and she's reasonably happy with it, but it's getting long in the tooth and needs to be replaced.

I got my wife the MBA 13" last year, and she does a lot of the same things (she uses iPhoto and it's good for what she needs) and we've been very pleased. I actually went out and got one myself shortly thereafter since I mainly use mine for writing contracts and non-intensive apps. I know people will scoff on it, and that's fine, to each their own. But I've owned PCs for years and the MBA has been a very pleasant experience from ease of use to Apple support.

Ordered yesterday AM--just saw Apple invoice which now shows serial number. Looks like brand new unit. Prod. date of 2013/Week 5.

Thanks OP

Hello, Can I ask how you found your prod date? I found a couple of sites other than apple, but I'm hesitant to enter the number? Thanks!

http://www.junkfoodjunkie.no/2010...cbook-pro/

CxxK5xxxxxx = 2013 week 5 prod date



QUOTE=jdmmem;57592486]Hello, Can I ask how you found your prod date? I found a couple of sites other than apple, but I'm hesitant to enter the number? Thanks![/QUOTE]

Mine's week 3 from 2013.

A new laptop in this price-range will get you roughly what Apple is offering with this machine...
Honestly, I'm not really keen on Apple products, but the 13" MBP is a really solid product. If you're fine spending $1.3k on a laptop, this really isnt a bad way to go (not to mention, if Apple can hold their appeal long enough, it'll still be worth something a few years down the road)

That said, if you can manage to double-dip on Dell sales, and arent in a rush, the XPS lines are pretty competetive for their price; for the $400 it ran me, I'm more than happy to put up with the small shortcomings of the XPS13 (which is just the screen, really)

PS: Dell has launched a refresh of the XPS13, equipped with a FHD IPS panel. I totally expect to see people scooping up refurbs for ~$500-700, with deal stacking, later this year :woot:

I don't think that this is always true, I believe that they actually do repair and just do a full reshell of things, but that they also blend in a lot of essentially new products when they do big changeovers like this. I think all their leftover inventory of the outdated model just gets labeled as a refurbished model to justify the lower price (and avoid having to put new items "on sale").

It's too bad though that this isn't a deal for the 15" model since the 13" just has too high rez of a display for the poor HD4000 to really power well. Unlike the 15" model where you get a quad core CPU and dedicated GPU the 13" models are basically Macbook Air's with higher clocks and a really high rez screen. Of course at this price it actually makes this unit a better value than the 256GB Macbook Air model.

Thank you for the info. While I was checking serial checking sites, I came across several discussion regarding 'image retention' and 'ghosting' on the retina displays. I was unaware of this prior to purchasing. Apple is stating that this is normal, and they really haven't done anything to correct this since the initial release. From what I can tell, most of the screen issues are with displays manufactured by LG. People have had better luck with the Samsung screens.

To determine the manufacturer of you LCD, run this command in a terminal:

ioreg -lw0 | grep \"EDID\" | sed "/[^<]*</s///" | xxd -p -r | strings -6

LSNXXXX = Samsung

LPXXXXX = LG


There is a thread on Apple with almost 7k replies and almost 300k views on this.. as well as thousands of youtube videos showing this (check user 'randyedmonds' for a good example)... (not sure if I can include links or not)

https: // discussions.apple.com/thread/4034848?start=0&tstart=0

Since most people in this thread are probably purchasing from the same batch and will probably receive them soon - does anyone want to comment here on what type of screen ships with your new MBP Retina (LG, Samsung, etc)? Does anyone have any further info on the screen issue? Thanks.

somewhat random question

does anyone use their rMPB with their korean 27" wqhd (2560x1440) monitors?

the comments seem to be really spotty on whether the dual-link dvd-d connectors work or not...and the reviews for the adapter are horrendous, but i don't know any other way to hook the monitors up if i wanted to

Looks like its OOS! Only the 128GB flash drive units are available now as far as the retina models go.

Dude, I think you added one too many 0's. Holy $h!t.

If anyone missed out the refurb, MacMall is selling this model NEW for $1,474.39 shipped (with code APPINSDRMWB37994) here: http://www.macmall.com/p/product~...dp.iadfdbh With free Parallels 8 as well. That's less than the refurb ended up costing me after tax...oh well.

256GB back in stock @ $1356.00 macmall price $1,519.99

Cannot get that price,where do you apply the code?

Sorry about that...this link should have a box for the promo code: http://www.macmall.com/p/product~...DRMWB37994 It shows up as $1,474.39 once you go all the way to checkout.

Mine is from week 4 of 2013 production. Came with 5 charge cycles but I don't see any cosmetic flaws. Loving it so far :)

Glad you're enjoying your machine. Mine is coming tomorrow..

I have two quick questions: Was yours shipped from PA? Is there any way you could tell us your screen manufacturer (LG or Samsung)? Thank you!

To determine the manufacturer of you LCD, run this command in a terminal:

ioreg -lw0 | grep \"EDID\" | sed "/[^<]*</s///" | xxd -p -r | strings -6

LSNXXXX = Samsung
LPXXXXX = LG

+1 :wave:

Awesome, thanks for the info. Was so torn on getting the refurb, but with taxes, I ordered a new one instead via macmall. I also phoned in the order for a free $100 restaurant.com gift card too.

:nod:

I originally purchased the "refurbished" one and would have gone through with that purchase - if Apple had honored the in-store pickup date they'd listed on their website of yesterday, Friday. Instead, they shipped it to the store late so the pickup date got moved to Monday.

I decided to look elsewhere and, thanks to the MacMall deal, I've got a new one which will be delivered by FedEx on Monday - a little after I'd likely be able to pick up the one in-store but that's fine because it means I don't have to leave the (home) office to pick it up so that makes it a bit more convenient. Throw in Parallels (which I've been wanting to get and it being free makes it much nicer) and it's even better. I wish I'd remembered to ask about using the coupon code on the order, though, since that would've dropped the price enough for it to break even with the cost of the "refurb" after tax (taking off the cost of free Parallels after MIR, and the $100 Restaurants.com GC). I may contact them and see if they can drop the price a bit but only after they ship it, I don't want them to have any reason to delay it.

I'm keeping my order with Apple directly until I have the one from MacMall just so I know if that one's a very rare dud or gets broken in transit I can return it and pick up the other one from Apple. Otherwise, they should have one available on Monday.

Anyhow, the "refurb" I bought directly from Apple most certainly isn't actually a refurb, just a recently manufactured (week 5 2013) unsold one. But I'd rather get the retail packaging so when I sell this one come June (to upgrade to a Haswell-based model) I can get more cash out of it.

Thanks, OP, for the great deal and thanks to everyone who posted about the MacMall deal!

Just so people are clear.

you can build this same rig in a windows machine with same specs in a 13" for about $750 maybe $850-$900 if you want to pay that premium for HD screen

if you went all the way up to 15.6" (OMG TEH WEIAGT!1) you can spend $500 + $150 on the SSD and match and/or beat the specs in this machine.....

you're talking out of your ass probably because you can't afford this laptop.

show me a windows laptop with the same spec that can be hackintoshed
that can:
1) same or better form facter (size & weight)
2) same resolution (if you didn't realize this is a RETINA, NOT just HD (1080p))
3) can run xcode, textmate (osx)
4) 6-7 hour battery life
5) can match/be similiar to the resale value of the macbook pro

links would be appreciated rather then numbers you're pulling out of the air

the whole point of buying this laptop is that it has an amazing screen, is small and portable, and it runs osx natievly.

Where do think the majority of the Mac install base came from?

Mars?

They came from Windows.

Apple has an agreement with certain companies so they can use display panels that have very high resolutions.

Having a very high resolution 8 bit PLS or IPS panel isn't as common as you think.

The 13" Retina uses a panel that has a resolution of 2560 x 1600.

Well , no laptop other than the Retina 13" uses a 13" panel with WQXGA resolution.

Also , Apple is pushing for technology that IBM gave up on long ago.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_T221

Obviously Apple doesn't make their own PLS or LCD panels but at least they are pushing for it unlike other companies.