Canon EOS Rebel T4i 18 MP CMOS Digital SLR Camera w/ 18-55mm EF-S IS II Lens - $599.99 + Free Shipping
 

Quality Photo via Rakuten [rakuten.com] is offering a Canon EOS Rebel T4i 18 MP CMOS Digital SLR Camera w/ 18-55mm EF-S IS II Lens for $599.99 and shipping is included.

is T5i coming out soon? will it be a substantial upgrade over T4i?

T5i is likely not coming out soon. T4i is one of the newer models in the EOS line, having come out just last year.

Might as well wait for T6i

T7ii coming out very soon.

unless something is announced.. buy for today and your current purpose or you'll just keep waiting.

There have never been very major changes among each rebel camera. There are some improvements but nothing major. It is more important to focus on your lenses than the camera bodies. Thats where the real differences come from.

T4i only came out in June of last year, so, at the earliest, Canon updates it yearly. So, it'd be til June for a new model. And then until Black Friday that you'd see it <$700 (if the T4i is any indication).

So, basically, a future model shouldn't really have any bearing on your decision....anything that does get updated (T5i, 70D) is gonna cost 2x as much for the next 6 months.

If this is a legit seller, then this is a great deal. T4i is a great camera, the IS kit lens isn't bad either. I doubt we will see this combo a whole lot cheaper any time soon.

Wish it was B1G1 free... I'd make out with my sister if that was the case...

Ewww. :eek: I suppose that's legal in a few states. On the other hand, I don't know your sister.

If there are going to be major changes, Canon will likely first update the 7D or 60D before bringing the changes to the Txi line.

I'm considering the T4i, T3, and T2i. Is it true that I heard T2i has slightly better image quality than T4i? I really don't care about other features since image quality is most important to me. Would it be better for me to go for the much cheaper T2i or T3 if there is no big difference in image quality vs the T4i?

Also, I need to get a good macro lens, any recommendation? 60mm, 70mm, or 100mm? Canon or Sigma?

Personally I'm holding out for the t1000

I'll be back.

I'm not sure why image quality would be vastly different, except for maybe sample variation. They all use the same sensor (not sure if there were minor tweaks to the later generation).

The Autofocus on the T4i should be much better than the T3i/T2i, particularly when not using the center point. T4i uses all cross-point type AF points (even the Full Frame 6D doesn't have this). If you're going to be focusing using anything other than the center point, get the T4i. Regardless how good/bad a lens/sensor is, an out of focus image will always look bad :)

The Macro lens recommendation depends on if you're going to stay with a crop sensor SLR, or are planning on going Full Frame. If you're planning on staying on crop, get the 60mm EF-S Macro, wonderful lens and very sharp. Otherwise the 100mm Canon EF Macro can still be had for slightly over $500 I believe, and is also considered to be one of Canon's very sharp lenses. If you have money to burn, get the 100mm f2.8L Macro as it has better build, but more importantly an Image Stabilizer. Best bang for the buck would be the 100mm non-L Macro though. If Canon pares back their APS-C offerings in the future as rumored then resale of EF-S lenses may drop significantly.

A decent deal but I'd say warm at best. Amazon is offering the camera at $649 with better shipping from a more reputable dealer. Plus, 2% cashback on the camera and additional 3x points if you use your Amazon rewards visa card.

Any idea if there's any chance this camera with the kit will come down to $549 or $749 or below for the kit with the STM lens?

I actually just got a T8i with a 10,000mm kit lens for free!

I take pictures on mostly small items such as jewelry for my clients, need to get some close-up details, so in this case I assume it doesn't make a difference which camera I use (T4i, T3, or T2i)? is the 60mm macro lens the right one for my purposes?

or does it even matter if I use a DSLR camera or not? would a good point and shoot still give me the same result if there is good lighting?

60mm macro is good for full frame but 100mm macro is better for crop sensors...ie t2i,3i,4i.

Also you wont see much difference so long as they are all shot with a good amount of light which id assume they are. the t4i is substantially better in low light situations though.

I think might have that backwards. 60mm on crop would be the equivalent of 96mm on Full Frame. 100mm on crop would be 160mm equivalent.

I don't think a non-DSLR will do a fantastic job of Macro shots. Depending how close you want to get the 60mm or 100mm would both work. I'd go for the 100mm. You'll likely need a tripod as well.

I might get blown up by hardcore photogs, but...
Since your shots sound like they will be still subjects, you can probably save some money if you go the extension tube route for <$100. They are much cheaper and I'm assuming you'll be using a tripod so you won't need image stabilization, nor fast focusing. I think the main noticeable difference with the tubes is clarity fades as you get away from center. You might also benefit from one of those $30-40 macro lights which attach to the end of the lens.

Are you always going to be focusing in the middle of the frame? If so, it probably doesn't matter. If you want to focus using the outer points i'd get the T4i. If lighting will always be good, then they'll all likely do an decent job of focusing. Then lens will likely make a far bigger difference (just because it's macro) than whether you have a T2i/T3i or T4i.

The T3i and T4i also add the ability to act as a flash "master" if you do off-camera flash which could be very useful if you ever go that route (especially for product photography)

You are right, I don't know what I was thinking. But either way 100mm is better because you can get in much closer.

I've been eying that lens actually and also thinking about getting the extension tube to go with it. I've seen some really wicked shots with that combo.

I got a T3i around the same time last year for $650. I sold it 6 months later for $500 around the time the T4i was announced. I then bought the T4i for christmas along with the 40mm pancake and 18-135mm STM lens. Are all the new features of the T4i worth it? No. Save your money to get lenses or a vastly better body.

I've never used extension tubes, so i'm not sure how they would affect the minimum focus distance. The Macro lenses should allow you to work quite closely to the subject. But yes, focus speed, and IS aren't important in this case.

If you really want great product shots, get an off-camera flash. If you do manual flash (not hard to do) pick up a cheap Yongnuo for around $60-100 that can act as a slave, and a set of RF flash triggers for $30. The $100 on the flash + triggers will give you far better product images than $100-200 extra going from T3i to T4i. Well maybe $130 if you add a cheap umbrella and stand, but still you'll get far more "pop" than you would be getting the pricier body.

Also keep in mind that i'd lean towards the 100mm EF Macro lens just because if Canon downscale EF-S (mounts of crop bodies only) i'm guessing the lens resale values may drop.

I actually went from a T2i to a T3i a few years ago, and after selling my T2i, found I preferred it due to the smaller size. The articulating screen did nothing for me but add bulk.

Apparently it works reasonably well for portraits too (haven't tried it), so it's not JUST a Macro lens. The biggest complaint i've seen is that the AF on the Macro lens isn't the fastest out there.

Is this the "extension tube" that you were referring to?
http://www.amazon.com/Fotodiox-Ca...macro+lens

Yeah, ive seen photos, its actually a very good portrait lens. I've heard mixed results with the AF. Some say its really fast others disagree that its painfully slow.

CNET review [cnet.com]

Amazon lists two Canon 100mm macro lenses, price difference is huge, for studio photography, is the cheaper one good enough for my use?

Canon EF 100mm f/2.8L IS USM Macro Lens - $950
http://www.amazon.com/Canon-100mm...00mm+canon

Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 Macro USM Lens - $515
http://www.amazon.com/Canon-100mm...00mm+canon

I also noticed other Canon compatible macro lenses such as Sigma regularly on sale for $300, how do these macro lenses compared to Canon image quality wise?

L lenses are the best lenses canon makes. The differences in picture quality are very minimal between the two though. That L lens is also sealed so you can pour water on it with out issue (ie shooting pictures in rainy weather) but your not doing that. The non L should be just fine.

All of these t4i deals are tempting me away from getting a nikon d5200. The wifi adaptor to connect the camera to my cell phone is a pretty big selling point and nice gimmick. Thing is I'm paying for either camera mostly with staples rewards and who knows how long it's going to take staples to even start selling the d5200 and how long after that before there's a deal worth jumping on.

You obviously have not read anything about the T4i's focusing ability.

I would gladly give up both of the lenses for the 18-135mm STM EF-S IS that takes advantage of the new T4i focusing system.

Yes I have and I actually own it. I have the 40mm stm, 18-135 stm, and 55-250mm lenses.

What I'm saying is that from the t2i to the t3i there arent huge differences, like one camera is twice as good as the previous. Yes there are improvements but nothing too huge. The same with the t3i to the t4i. There were enough improvements that made me purchase it over the t3i, but the photos will turn out pretty similar still.

I would avoid the T2i because of overheating issues. Mine has overheated while doing video on multiple occasions (the T3i isn't supposed to have this issue).

I would also recommend a canon 60mm macro, we've been pleased with ours.

+1

The L lens is stabilized I believe, so it's easier to use with a tripod. For product photography, you're better off using a tripod. The L is probably optically slightly better, but the non-L is also excellent.

Get the cheaper one :) $515 is a good price.

looks like a great deal. I still have my t3i and can't see any reason to upgrade. Autofocus during video would be nice... but I haven't heard many raving reviews on how well it works (compared to a regular handheld video camera)

For video I believe there are significant changes on the video side, for still photos I don't think it's as drastic (T4i IS better because of all cross-point AF points, but it's essentially the AF system from the 60D).

I'd probably still take the T4i over the T3i due to the extra features and AF system. If I had a T3i, I probably wouldn't upgrade. It also depends how "video-centric" you are. For stills, I think there might be fewer differences.

+1

For still photos, you're probably better off going to a 60D or 7D, but for video, the T4i has features that those more expensive cameras don't even offer.

If you're paying with Staples rewards, then are you paying MSRP? I also depends if you're doing more video or more photography. For photography I'd get the D5200 with a far newer/better sensor and what's essentially the autofocus system from the D7000 (39 AF Points!!!). Canon's 18MP sensor is long in the tooth and needs updating, while Nikon/Sony/Toshiba's sensors have fared much better. Assuming you're paying MSRP I'd go the Nikon route with the biggest downside being that older lenses won't autofocus.

For $599 vs. $899 though, I'd be all over the T4i. The D5200 is nice, I don't know if it's $300 nicer :)

Awesome Deal! I'm finally upgrading from a point and shoot, and have been debating on getting a canon, but the price was steep...But this made up my mind. Rep to the OP!

To be fair, video on the t4i sucks. Well at least the auto focus does. I think its pretty unuseable and have to use my high end point and shoot for video.

Hope you are prepared to spend another $500+ on lenses and a flash to make the camera worth while.

The item has no manufacturers warranty btw.Not a good deal in that case

I plan on doing both photo and video. I'll be able to price match staples to best buy or amazon if they have any deals. T4i is starting to really tempt me mainly because of the price differece and because I can actually buy it now. Not sure how long it's going to be before staples sells the d5200 and how much longer it would be before there's a break in the price. By the time it's available I might have enough rewards to get rhe d7000 replacement.

Keep in mind you're buying into a system. You're going to want additional lenses and maybe a flash, so I'd look at both systems and decide what you think would better suit you over the long term. Both Canon and Nikon make great cameras, they're both good, just different.

That is true, the both make great camera's. I've used Nikon all of my life, but I've been tempted with the better resolutions and other factors to switch to Cannon, BUT my family has mostly Nikon, so I've already got lenses for them. Tough call.

Yeah almost makes me feel like I'm signing a lifetime cell phone contract. Figured sine I'm buying it with rewards no matter what I sell it for will be profit and I'll be able to buy a different one.

Guys dont forget 5% cash back on Discover.....!!

i hear that the t4i isn't much better than the t3i, and the t3i in turn is not much better than the t2i. I would buy the t2i and save a few hundred bucks

Discover do not have 5% cash back on Amazon now.

Depends what you're doing. As far as image quality, I'm willing to bet the differences are minimal. The T3i added the ability to use the on-board flash as a flash commander, which is useful if you want to do off-camera flash along with the articulating screen. The T4i adds some type of video autofocus I believe, and a better AF system than the T3i and T2i (T4i uses the system from the 60D if I'm not mistaken).

For $599 w/lens, the T4i is a nice deal. At MSRP, I'd pass. Additionally, Canon's 18MP sensor has worn out its welcome, it's been used on the t2i, t3i, t4i, 60D and 7D. It's not about MP but high ISO performance and dynamic range. Nikon's been using a variety of sensors (Canon uses their own sensors, Nikon buys sensors some of which are designed by them and some perhaps not, hard to know for certain). The new generation of Nikon 24MP crop sensors appears to outperform Canon's 18MP which is now several years old.

Amazon??
The OP is about Rakuten.com.

Sorry about that.

The T4i is worlds better at higher iso than either camera. Compare them at the aquarium and you will see huge differences in quality and will be able to take pictures on the t4i not possible on the other 2 bodies.

How does this compare to the following deal? Im not sure which one will be slicker deal. I never had a DSLR before, but very interested about getting one.

http://slickdeals.net/permadeal/8...lements-10

T3i with 14-55 mm+ 55-250 mm+ Bag+ Adobe Photoshop element 10 for $610 or T4i with 18-55 for $599. Can't decide which one to get. Will someone be kind enough to suggest which one should I get for general photography and what's the advantage of getting the one you suggest. I will really appreciate any input.

T3i will for sure come with a 1 year manufacture warranty. Can't be certain about T4i from Rakuten through Quality Photo, but most likely no US Canon Warranty. I can't comment on the difference between the T3i and T4i, but if you sell off the 55-250mm lens for ~$120-150, you're essentially getting T3i + kit lens -- plus all the other goodies -- for $500, which is a darn good deal.

Those are some of them...but I personally would buy the ones that dont cut the lens off from auto focus. Like these Zeikos [amazon.com] or the more reputable Kenko [amazon.com].

Seems like good advice...but I think OP mentioned jewelry shots so I think even cheaper is the ring lights intended for macro use. But I have no experience w/ product shots. The one thing I think everyone would agree with is that you can't go wrong with more light!

Just love you small percentage of Discover card holders who love to yell at the top of your lungs in every post.. "Dont forget the cash back.. yada yada".

Looks like you were denied :lol:

I ordered mine this morning. Deal is still good.