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KarateB0b 02-14-2013 02:16 AM

Logitech G710+ Mechanical gaming keyboard (Quiet and Backlit) $99.99 @ Bestbuy.com w/Free Shipping!
 
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edit: 2/15 - morning newegg deal ended - amazon deal delayed (buy from AMAZON)
edit: 2/15 - later morning amazon deal ended
edit: 2/15 6:30pm bestbuy is selling it for $100 (thanks foxnews lol?)

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Logit...&cp=1&lp=1
bust out those reward zone points....

Lowest price i've seen for this mechanical Logitech G710 plus keyboard. Normally $120-125 on sale, $140-150 msrp.


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Pro...6823126299 dead
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009C98NPY dead

was $99.99 w/free shipping
don't forget cashback

Has Cherry MX Brown switches with o-rings to help dampen sound.

yuugotserved 02-14-2013 02:16 AM

Logitech G710+ Mechanical Gaming Keyboard $100 + Free Shipping
 
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Amazon has Logitech G710+ Mechanical Gaming Keyboard for $100 with free shipping.


Note, usually ships within 1 to 2 months.

The following is no longer available:
Newegg has Logitech G710+ Mechanical Gaming Keyboard for $100 with free shipping. Thanks KarateB0b

Price Research: Our research indicates that Logitech G710+ Mechanical Gaming Keyboard is $24 lower (19% savings) than the next best available price from a reputable merchant with prices ranging from $124 to $170. - yuugotserved

wikipost 02-14-2013 02:16 AM

This post can and should be edited by users like you :)
 
Best Buys is now matching and selling for $99.99 and free ship [bestbuy.com]

some people have issues with the backlights dying, but Logitech will replace the keyboard with a new one

As of 2/21/13 price @ Amazon still $99.99 with 1-2month estimated ship date.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/...PDKIKX0DER

Larron 02-14-2013 02:30 AM

Seems decent, but you're taking a chance. A lot of the recent reviews say the backlight fails after just a few hours or days.

Spending that kind of money on a keyboard, you'd expect one of the key features to work for more than a few days.

sepffuzzball 02-14-2013 02:57 AM

I've been using one of these for my keyboard at work...no issues with mine so far and I purchased a few days after initial release last year.

Still prefer MX Blues, but the Browns are almost just as good for me

Larron 02-14-2013 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by sepffuzzball (Post 57570608)
I've been using one of these for my keyboard at work...no issues with mine so far and I purchased a few days after initial release last year.

Still prefer MX Blues, but the Browns are almost just as good for me

How it it for typing? It's not too noisy for a work environment?

sepffuzzball 02-14-2013 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Larron (Post 57570658)
How it it for typing? It's not too noisy for a work environment?

It's definitely more noisy than membrane keyboards that most use in my office...but being in the middle of programmers and analysts, a lot of them -like- the noise the keyboard makes when I type. A little bit of nostalgia I guess?

If you work in a super-quiet office, it may not be the -best- keyboard for ya, but otherwise I found it to be fine.

Frontierboy 02-14-2013 05:09 AM

Wow, $100 for a freaking keyboard ?.... Does it do more than type a letter when you press a key?

dsandsake 02-14-2013 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Frontierboy (Post 57571390)
Wow, $100 for a freaking keyboard ?.... Does it do more than type a letter when you press a key?

Most (inexpensive) keyboards have small rubber domes under the keys which give off a kind of squishy undefined feel when you push a key. These higher end keyboards have mechanical switches instead of rubber domes, which are a lot better for gaming/typing. You get a better feel and responsiveness, especially for games which require quick or repeated keystrokes. I bought a Corsair mechanical keyboard and would never go back to regular dome keys. Logitech makes solid keyboards so this is actually a pretty good deal.

keplenk 02-14-2013 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Larron (Post 57570658)
How it it for typing? It's not too noisy for a work environment?

I have the Blue .. and from time to time .. I hear people say "I hate that keyboard" .. lol

Player433 02-14-2013 06:10 AM

I'm using a Corsair K60 at work and really love the Reds. I bought a new Razor BlackWidow 2013 and it has Browns and I hate those. I would buy this if it had the Red keys.

grimlock49 02-14-2013 06:24 AM

Good deal.. been using this since it launched. I do gaming on it about 20-30 hours per week lol!

epicjas0n 02-14-2013 06:26 AM

hmm..can't decide between this or the Korsair k90 with red switches

ShorD143 02-14-2013 07:06 AM

I just bought the 710 a few weeks ago. I love this thing. Absolutely no issues yet with backlighting. It also has a supression pad that keeps it a bit quieter than most mechanical keyboards, but I would still recommend that you keep this thing away from offices, especially those with cubicles or open spaces.

yellowlt4 02-14-2013 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Player433 (Post 57572038)
I'm using a Corsair K60 at work and really love the Reds. I bought a new Razor BlackWidow 2013 and it has Browns and I hate those. I would buy this if it had the Red keys.


The Razor BlackWidow 2013 has Blues unless you bought the stealth edition direct from Razers online store store.

ctsinc 02-14-2013 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dsandsake (Post 57571630)
Most (inexpensive) keyboards have small rubber domes under the keys which give off a kind of squishy undefined feel when you push a key. These higher end keyboards have mechanical switches instead of rubber domes, which are a lot better for gaming/typing. You get a better feel and responsiveness, especially for games which require quick or repeated keystrokes. I bought a Corsair mechanical keyboard and would never go back to regular dome keys. Logitech makes solid keyboards so this is actually a pretty good deal.

ACTUALLY, mechanical keyboards are cheaper to make, and they have ALWAYS BEEN (until recently) the low-end. Years and years ago, I bought several for my company from Fry's Electronics. They were 6 bucks each. The whole mechanical keyboard market is just like the diamond market. They're selling regular stuff at higher prices just because people have been fooled into thinking it's worth it.

mryanbrown 02-14-2013 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctsinc (Post 57573306)
ACTUALLY, mechanical keyboards are cheaper to make, and they have ALWAYS BEEN (until recently) the low-end. Years and years ago, I bought several for my company from Fry's Electronics. They were 6 bucks each. The whole mechanical keyboard market is just like the diamond market. They're selling regular stuff at higher prices just because people have been fooled into thinking it's worth it.

Not sure if trolling... or living in an alternate reality.

Anyways, does the Logitech use Cherry switches? I don't recall reading this uses either Red or Brown. But IMHO, Brown are much better than red. They have the exact same actuation, but Browns offer a tactile bump to let you know when its actuated. I just got the K60 and M60 for $100 AR so I don't know if I should try this out.

Elpee 02-14-2013 07:32 AM

Wow, I never imagine that I would spend $100 just for a keyboard.

johnyeros 02-14-2013 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frontierboy (Post 57571390)
Wow, $100 for a freaking keyboard ?.... Does it do more than type a letter when you press a key?


for most of us a 100 dollar sharp music keyboard from walmart is fine.. but a steinway or yamaha is for those who does more than playing 1 motes that lit up at a time.. it's the same with mechanical keyboard.. I went to it and never look bad.

marlin29311 02-14-2013 07:37 AM

The 710 uses Cherry MX Browns, but logitech also did a slight modification to help with noise suppression.

I really like the 710 - its a fantastic keyboard to type and game on. Oddly enough, the backlighting went out on the 'm' through the right 'shift' key the other day, and just turned back on yesterday. Weird...might send it back, but it's otherwise flawless.

dannomite 02-14-2013 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Elpee (Post 57573620)
Wow, I never imagine that I would spend $100 just for a keyboard.

I was in the same boat. I had some discretionary spending and thought I'd give it a shot. After I got mine (I bought a das keyboard), I tried it and thought "okay, this feels nice, but whatever." Then I went back to my logitech wave, and it just felt so MUSHY in comparison. Hard to describe. After I got used to typing on a mechanical keyboard, I couldn't go back :(

my two cents.

mryanbrown 02-14-2013 07:56 AM

Had I known about this a week ago I would be all over it. $100 for Cherry MX Brown + Backlight is a great price but $65 for Cherry MX Red Corsair K60 is also good and costs less so meh. The backlight is a novel feature that wont make or break a purchase, but it's nice to have if you can get it cheap enough (compared to Ducky Shine for $150 but Ducky is <3)

gqvisionz 02-14-2013 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Larron (Post 57570658)
How it it for typing? It's not too noisy for a work environment?

these ones have o-rings preinstalled which should make it pretty quiet for a mechanical keyboard.

donkinuts 02-14-2013 08:02 AM

I really want to get this. However after reading the reviews, it seems the backlight is destined to go out sooner or later.

Deathsycthehe11 02-14-2013 08:06 AM

I would recommend saving a extra 50 dollars and get a filco or even a ducky shine II. Or not saving and get the tkl cm quick fire. I would even recommend getting the old rosewill-rk9000 with costar( the filco mj1) than this.

Frontierboy 02-14-2013 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnyeros (Post 57573648)
for most of us a 100 dollar sharp music keyboard from walmart is fine.. but a steinway or yamaha is for those who does more than playing 1 motes that lit up at a time.. it's the same with mechanical keyboard.. I went to it and never look bad.

ummm, we're talking about a PC keyboard here buddy

subzi 02-14-2013 08:21 AM

First off, what is wrong with current crop of SDers? I have seen it in many posts recently where they will complain how expensive the product is and "why would you even buy this shit" and most of the time, they dont know anything about the product! If you are not going to buy the product and have no knowledge as to why its worth the money it is, then dont THREAD CRAP! Move on! I love slickdeals for what it is and I dont want it to become a place where people comment like youtubers.

Anyway!

This is a nice deal. I bought mine for 120 from Logitech a couple of months ago.

I was using a dell keyboard before i bought this and I too was skeptical about mechanical keyboards but now, I love this keyboard! Its great for gaming and its a pleasure typing away.

Aside from the "noise" factor, the keyboard is really well built, its a LOT heavier than you think it would be. I like how there are two options for backlight, one for gaming, lights up the "WSAD" and arrow keys, the other for rest of the keys. The backlight is very bright but good thing it has 5 levels of brightness. There is an extra USB port on it, which I use all the time.

I think many serious gamers will like that fact that you can program different layouts for different games and situations.

It does take a while to while to get used to the new "feel" of the keyboard and the hand placement is a bit off from regular keyboards, because of the extra keys on the left.

Overall, its a fantastic keyboard and yes its more expensive than your regular keyboard, its worth shows in its quality and features.

aznking83 02-14-2013 08:28 AM

Things collect dust in the physical world, but in the web it collect garbage :)
I'm a computer geek and when it comes to nice things, i'll buy it. I bought more computer stuff ever since I knew of SD. For this KB it's nice for the price. "why would you even buy this" the answer "why not"

collegebudget 02-14-2013 08:38 AM

Alright, I bought into the whole "you gotta try a mechanical keyboard!!!111!!!one!!!eleven!!!11" pitch that I've heard many times. I spent probably 4 hours a day, minimum, typing and/or gaming. Yes, it makes a satisfying clunk. Sure, it's a bit more responsive. But for $100? I'm sure I could find a lot more enjoyment in another product for $100. For example, another (albeit cheap) monitor.

Just sayin. Just because people want to justify their purchase of a $100 keyboard, doesn't mean it's necessarily right for you.

Mine is going back to NewEgg.

johnyeros 02-14-2013 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Frontierboy (Post 57574494)
ummm, we're talking about a PC keyboard here buddy

duh.. and i'm giving an example.. if u use a computer for a few hour in a day may be you don't need a mechanical keyboard but for people who use it for ext period or play lots of game the investment in a better keyboard is worth it..

hence the pianist comparision.

we're not trying to convince anybody to switch to mechanical.. those who switch will never look back -- for a reason. if 100 bucks isn't worth it for you then don't spend it. spend that 100 bucks on beer or 99 cent game in the app store instead ;)

karazi 02-14-2013 09:24 AM

A good deal is a good deal, regardless of whether you are too much of a cheap ass to lay down the cash for something.

ctsinc 02-14-2013 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by mryanbrown (Post 57573502)
Not sure if trolling... or living in an alternate reality.

Anyways, does the Logitech use Cherry switches? I don't recall reading this uses either Red or Brown. But IMHO, Brown are much better than red. They have the exact same actuation, but Browns offer a tactile bump to let you know when its actuated. I just got the K60 and M60 for $100 AR so I don't know if I should try this out.

I'm not trolling, NOR in an alternate reality. So-called 'mechanical keyboards' first came out in the early 1980's.They were literally the first keyboards EVER. Keyboards evolved AWAY from mechanical design, not into it. Thanks for proving my point that people (read: sheeple) follow marketing propaganda wherever it goes.

dsandsake 02-14-2013 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Frontierboy (Post 57574494)
ummm, we're talking about a PC keyboard here buddy

Says the guy who does not play 20-30 hours of video games a week. This is our main interface for programming/gaming, so the price is worth it considering the time spent on it.

KarateB0b 02-14-2013 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ctsinc (Post 57576544)
I'm not trolling, NOR in an alternate reality. So-called 'mechanical keyboards' first came out in the early 1980's.They were literally the first keyboards EVER. Keyboards evolved AWAY from mechanical design, not into it. Thanks for proving my point that people (read: sheeple) follow marketing propaganda wherever it goes.

they evolved away from mechanical because a cheap membrane with rubber domes is a lot lot cheaper than 114 individual switches.......

mryanbrown 02-14-2013 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by KarateB0b (Post 57576676)
they evolved away from mechanical because a cheap membrane with rubber domes is a lot lot cheaper than 114 individual switches.......

^^ seconded. Membrane keyboards are much cheaper to produce than mechanical, idk where he got his info from.

As for the rest. LOL @ sheeple, the dull knife cuts deepest, no? I got a mechanical keyboard for build quality and longevity, plain and simple. My decision had nothing to do with "marketing propaganda". Also, as someone who types heavily almost every day, I enjoy the feel of typing on a mechanical keyboard vs a cheap plastic membrane.

Are these overpriced? Absolutely, but then what isn't? Even a $5 keyboard has a profit margin. I've had to buy 2 membrane keyboards in the past year because they wear out quickly, so $100 over an estimated 5-8+ years is really worth it.

ctsinc 02-14-2013 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by KarateB0b (Post 57576676)
they evolved away from mechanical because a cheap membrane with rubber domes is a lot lot cheaper than 114 individual switches.......

NOW that is the case, but it's ironic because when mechanical keyboards were the norm, the quieter and more technologically advanced "membrane" keyboards were several times more expensive to produce than "old style clicky" mechanical keyboards.

These aren't really that expensive to manufacture, in fact. They are manufactured in and sourced from China for $4-$9 each.

chrischunli 02-14-2013 10:11 AM

For those considering the Corsair K60 as an alternative to this: while the K60 is a good keyboard, you will be unable to access the motherboard BIOS and other boot options with the K60. It only becomes usable once the OS has been loaded. I doubt the Logitech will have this problem.

mryanbrown 02-14-2013 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrischunli (Post 57577476)
For those considering the Corsair K60 as an alternative to this: while the K60 is a good keyboard, you will be unable to access the motherboard BIOS and other boot options with the K60. It only becomes usable once the OS has been loaded. I doubt the Logitech will have this problem.

I don't know what BIOS you're using, but mine supports USB KB/Mouse (I have the K60).

ahan421 02-14-2013 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ctsinc (Post 57577324)
NOW that is the case, but it's ironic because when mechanical keyboards were the norm, the quieter and more technologically advanced "membrane" keyboards were several times more expensive to produce than "old style clicky" mechanical keyboards.

These aren't really that expensive to manufacture, in fact. They are manufactured in and sourced from China for $4-$9 each.

Are you just pulling these figures out of thin air?? You just compared mechanical keyboards to the diamond market, that's because it IS a luxury item.

The feel of a mechanical keyboard versus a membrane keyboard is night and day. It isn't overpriced for what it does because the entire market is selling at that price. Mechanical keyboards don't come cheap because they're like the sports cars, you're not going to find a 'cheap' sports car... that's just an oxymoron.

chrischunli 02-14-2013 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mryanbrown (Post 57577504)
I don't know what BIOS you're using, but mine supports USB KB/Mouse (I have the K60).

I'm running an MSI Z77MA-G45 board, and K60 doesn't work during boot. I am also running OSX through a hackintosh bootloader, and the K60 also doesn't work in this bootloader as well.

pressstart 02-14-2013 10:33 AM

I bought this keyboard about a month ago, I love it. I had my doubts about the difference with the usual membrane keyboards, but the difference is pretty significant. After using the regular keyboard at work, coming home to the G710 and typing/using it sounds and feels sublime. I saw those backlight issues on the reviews too, but so far so good.

Deals4Lyfe 02-14-2013 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctsinc (Post 57577324)
NOW that is the case, but it's ironic because when mechanical keyboards were the norm, the quieter and more technologically advanced "membrane" keyboards were several times more expensive to produce than "old style clicky" mechanical keyboards.

These aren't really that expensive to manufacture, in fact. They are manufactured in and sourced from China for $4-$9 each.

No idea what you're talking about... go google the price of 1 Cherry MX switch... the price of 1 switch is about $.40-.50 in bulk ... and with a keyboard with 120 keys, that's already $48 - $60 in the cost, before we factor in labor, the casing, marketing or profits.

If you wanted to buy 100 blue switches from WASDkeyboards it'd cost you $80:

http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/inde...-e1nn.html

Sure, in the past there might've been cheap mechanicals (there still are), but a cheap mechanical sucks and a cheap membrane is cheaper. But these are high-end mechanical keyboards with pretty nice switches.

As for the deal, I'd rate it as meh, if you're going to spend this much, pay a bit more and get a Ducky Shine

Zodiacs 02-14-2013 10:41 AM

So tempted to buy one, I don't need it though. Damnit! G15 break so I can upgrade!

Zephon13 02-14-2013 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Larron (Post 57570658)
How it it for typing? It's not too noisy for a work environment?

I'm on a Razer BlackWidow at work and I love it. It's a little louder than most keyboards but nobody has ever complained about it. Maybe if you have someone who just like to find things to bitch about. Other than that it's not a big deal. And I do a TON of typing at work.

yellowlt4 02-14-2013 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zephon13 (Post 57578226)
I'm on a Razer BlackWidow at work and I love it. It's a little louder than most keyboards but nobody has ever complained about it. Maybe if you have someone who just like to find things to bitch about. Other than that it's not a big deal. And I do a TON of typing at work.

Its also worth noting that the Logitech is quieter than the Razer. I have zero complaints with either of my boards, Blue and Brown switches.

Zephon13 02-14-2013 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by yellowlt4 (Post 57578354)
Its also worth noting that the Logitech is quieter than the Razer. I have zero complaints with either of my boards, Blue and Brown switches.

I have a BlackWidow at work and a BlackWidow Ultimate with the blue LED's at home. The Ultimate is a much more solid keyboard, but also $130. The base model was only $60, but the key switches are up to the same quality. I'm at a PC for a good 8-14 hours a day so this makes a huge impact on my productivity. Considering I can pull off an easy 100+wpm on mechanical while on a crappy rubber dome keyboard that drops to a crappy 70avg... Not to mention it's tiring after a few hours of typing.

For the idiots trying to bash mech keyboards, gtfo. You kids know absolutely nothing about how the switches even work or what goes into creating them. $50 is the bare minimum I've seen for a mechanical keyboard, and those aren't the quality ones. I could knock someone out with the BW Ultimate, that's how solid the construction is.

But Logitech? I've been disappointed in most of their stuff recently, so for me this would be a pass. Call me a Razer fanboy if you want, but if you actually get their higher quality stuff and not the cheap gaming keyboards/mice, they're actually pretty awesome. I've been using the same ExactMat mousepad for over 5 years, Lachesis 5600 mouse for 3, and BW Ultimate for 2 and a half or so. They've all performed very well for me.

I did get their cheap crap before so that's where I base my opinion. The Lycosa keyboard for example was a low profile rubber dome setup, which at first felt nice. After about 6 months of heavy usage I could notice the wear and tear on the switches and keys. Well, that got off topic real quick...

tldr; Mech > Rubber Dome. Period.

apexle 02-14-2013 10:56 AM

This is a VERY good deal. Considering I've been on the fence and watching this fluctuate between $125-$140 on theEgg and Amazon, I finally went ahead and bought it on amazon for around $125+tax.

I'm switching over to this from the Rosewill Cherry MX Blue Switches, which are pretty loud and echoey when bottomed out. I like the feel of this keyboard more becasue it has the dapening O-rings which not only provide a quieter sound (still noticeable over membranous keyboards) but also provide a softer tactile feedback which is more comforting that bottoming out on normal blue switch mechanicals.

I'd say this is comparible to my friend's Corsair K90, which is actually a really nice keyboard too. I think its a matter of preference, the backlight can be too bright so I'd recommend you to set it to the 2nd or lowest lighting setting, or just turn it off if you don't need it. The build quality is sturdy except for the plastic handrest, but the handrest has a nice texture on top so thats ok.

Overall I'm not going to bother returning this to get an extra $30 or so savings by purchasing from theegg, but I wanted to say that its a $100 well spent (I returned a Logitech G19 because I rarely ever used the LCD screen and it was overpriced for a membrane keyboard, the G19 retails for $199). The brown switches are actually very nice, and I'd say this is definitely a compromise between the springyness of the blue switches with the soft feel of the Red MXs.

This is like the lowest price I've seen on this keyboard by $25 difference.

EDIT* ^^ to the post above I also had a razor lycosa, had nice chiclet keyboard feel to it, but yeah the rubber keys started to wear out on me after some use. I used to be a razor fanboy but recently after they started making other stuff besides mice/keybaords I feel their quality has gone a bit down. Yea I've owned an average of 4 keyboards/6 mice a year... I dunno why.

Zephon13 02-14-2013 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctsinc (Post 57573306)
ACTUALLY, mechanical keyboards are cheaper to make, and they have ALWAYS BEEN (until recently) the low-end. Years and years ago, I bought several for my company from Fry's Electronics. They were 6 bucks each. The whole mechanical keyboard market is just like the diamond market. They're selling regular stuff at higher prices just because people have been fooled into thinking it's worth it.

LOL You're funny, kid.

Tennisplayer01 02-14-2013 11:05 AM

This is a good deal because Logitech clearly wins in the mechanical gaming market

Ive been waiting literally 10 years+ for a Mechanical logitech keyboard

There software utilities the build quality of each keyboard hass been KICK A**

With mechanical keys now its a win win

pressstart 02-14-2013 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zodiacs (Post 57578204)
So tempted to buy one, I don't need it though. Damnit! G15 break so I can upgrade!

I was the same situation with the same keyboard. I upgraded anyway and put the G15 away :P I miss the LCD, though I really only used it to display the clock and time.

SuzukiDan7 02-14-2013 11:08 AM

I am still using a 1981 IBM mechanical keyboard. Have thousands of hours on this gaming, typing, working etc. Its so loud and ugly people always laugh at me for it but I love it! The mechanical feel is better for sure. A definitive click confirms each keypress, unlike mooshy membrane kbs. So when typing a password, I dont have to stop and think "hmmm i wonder if that keypress registered".

As for this deal, I do feel that there is a lot of markup on mechanical "gaming" keyboards. I would like to upgrade my 1981 model but but its hard to justify it for $100. I do think these cost more to produce but Im willing to bet the markup on these things is a lot more than you think. Probably in the realm of 300-1000%. But as someone else said, its a luxury item just like jewelry so its to be expected.

dbuff 02-14-2013 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by sepffuzzball (Post 57570608)
I've been using one of these for my keyboard at work...no issues with mine so far and I purchased a few days after initial release last year.

Still prefer MX Blues, but the Browns are almost just as good for me

I had bought a CoolerMaster mechanical keyboard that had those macro keys to the left of the normal keys (like this logtech has) and the standard keyboard part had the "letter" keys
either made slightly smaller or closer together so whenever I typed, I kept hitting the CAPS LOCK key when I was trying to hit the "a" key.

Loved that Keyboard, except couldnt handle the slightly smaller keys. Had to send it back.

Did you noticed keys on your Logitech G710+ be smaller/closer together than usual keyboard? Dont want to make same mistake twice.

cHaNg-sTa 02-14-2013 11:16 AM

Do these use costar stabilizers or cherry mx stabilizers? I've tried both and honestly, the cherry mx stabilizers, although subtle, really bother me.

Those people who are getting surprised by how a keyboard can cost $100. I ask you to go out and try a mechanical keyboard, it'll change your life. Typing on a rubber dome keyboard is just awful to type on once you try a mechanical keyboard. It's especially worth it if you do a lot of typing.

Try them all. Blues, Browns, Blacks, Reds, etc. This is a great guide describing each.
http://www.overclock.net/t/491752...oard-guide

The general rule is Blues for typists, Blacks for gamers, Browns for inbetween (my favorite), Reds are in between Browns and Blacks (not exactly, but it's the closest description I give it). though honestly, all kinds of key switches are great to use over rubber dome keyboards.

It's the difference between a low HP and high HP car. The acceleration you get from a higher HP car is just so much more satisfying. Mechanical keyboards are pretty much the same deal in terms of typing. These are HIGH quality material keyboards. They're much more durable than your run of the mill keyboard.

dbuff 02-14-2013 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by subzi (Post 57574760)
First off, what is wrong with current crop of SDers? I have seen it in many posts recently where they will complain how expensive the product is and "why would you even buy this shit" and most of the time, they dont know anything about the product! If you are not going to buy the product and have no knowledge as to why its worth the money it is, then dont THREAD CRAP! Move on! I love slickdeals for what it is and I dont want it to become a place where people comment like youtubers.

Anyway!

This is a nice deal. I bought mine for 120 from Logitech a couple of months ago.

I was using a dell keyboard before i bought this and I too was skeptical about mechanical keyboards but now, I love this keyboard! Its great for gaming and its a pleasure typing away.

Aside from the "noise" factor, the keyboard is really well built, its a LOT heavier than you think it would be. I like how there are two options for backlight, one for gaming, lights up the "WSAD" and arrow keys, the other for rest of the keys. The backlight is very bright but good thing it has 5 levels of brightness. There is an extra USB port on it, which I use all the time.

I think many serious gamers will like that fact that you can program different layouts for different games and situations.

It does take a while to while to get used to the new "feel" of the keyboard and the hand placement is a bit off from regular keyboards, because of the extra keys on the left.

Overall, its a fantastic keyboard and yes its more expensive than your regular keyboard, its worth shows in its quality and features.

Thanks for the comment on the hand placement - bought a CoolerMaster KB and it too had that issue. I work on full size keyboard like everyone else in the house and the problem of always hitting "Caps Lock" instead of "A" key cause it to be sent back. We loved it except that was a deal breaker - I was hoping Logitech one didnt have that issue with, as you put it, "hand placement".

apexle 02-14-2013 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dbuff (Post 57579186)
I had bought a CoolerMaster mechanical keyboard that had those macro keys to the left of the normal keys (like this logtech has) and the standard keyboard part had the "letter" keys
either made slightly smaller or closer together so whenever I typed, I kept hitting the CAPS LOCK key when I was trying to hit the "a" key.

Loved that Keyboard, except couldnt handle the slightly smaller keys. Had to send it back.

Did you noticed keys on your Logitech G710+ be smaller/closer together than usual keyboard? Dont want to make same mistake twice.

Its the same size as my rosewill mechanical keyboard, I guess it is slightly closer than membranous keyboards by a bit and definitely closer together than ergonomic keyboards. But I think ergonomic keyboards are made for people who have repetitive jobs which doesn't require as much typing.

paperfc 02-14-2013 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deathsycthehe11 (Post 57574396)
I would recommend saving a extra 50 dollars and get a filco or even a ducky shine II. Or not saving and get the tkl cm quick fire. I would even recommend getting the old rosewill-rk9000 with costar( the filco mj1) than this.

Where would one buy a Ducky Shine? I've been interested in it but haven't really looked for it.

Thunderpants 02-14-2013 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paperfc (Post 57579424)
Where would one buy a Ducky Shine? I've been interested in it but haven't really looked for it.

http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/se...n_stock=on

EDIT: better link with Ducky Shine and Ducky Shine 2's listed.

dbuff 02-14-2013 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by apexle (Post 57579358)
Its the same size as my rosewill mechanical keyboard, I guess it is slightly closer than membranous keyboards by a bit and definitely closer together than ergonomic keyboards. But I think ergonomic keyboards are made for people who have repetitive jobs which doesn't require as much typing.

That was my issue, thanks for saving me some time. The CoolerMaster was also the same overall size as my old Saitek standard keyboard, but they added the macro buttons to the left thus causing them to skrunch (sp?) the standard keys.

I am looking for keyboard that:
1. Mechanical
2. Backlit
3. Keep keys same size as standard KB
4. Has a full compliment of keys (some dont)
5. Doesnt really need to have macro keys

Any suggestions?

ahan421 02-14-2013 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paperfc (Post 57579424)
Where would one buy a Ducky Shine? I've been interested in it but haven't really looked for it.

This site is probably the best to browse/choose/buy (Mechanical) keyboards

http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/keyboard/

ctsinc 02-14-2013 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zephon13 (Post 57578826)
LOL You're funny, kid.

Clearly you are the "kid" here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deals4Lyfe (Post 57578118)
No idea what you're talking about... go google the price of 1 Cherry MX switch... the price of 1 switch is about $.40-.50 in bulk ... and with a keyboard with 120 keys, that's already $48 - $60 in the cost, before we factor in labor, the casing, marketing or profits.

If you wanted to buy 100 blue switches from WASDkeyboards it'd cost you $80:

http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/inde...-e1nn.html

Sure, in the past there might've been cheap mechanicals (there still are), but a cheap mechanical sucks and a cheap membrane is cheaper. But these are high-end mechanical keyboards with pretty nice switches.

As for the deal, I'd rate it as meh, if you're going to spend this much, pay a bit more and get a Ducky Shine

globalsources.com. You guys are oblivious.

ctsinc 02-14-2013 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ahan421 (Post 57577550)
Are you just pulling these figures out of thin air?? You just compared mechanical keyboards to the diamond market, that's because it IS a luxury item.

The feel of a mechanical keyboard versus a membrane keyboard is night and day. It isn't overpriced for what it does because the entire market is selling at that price. Mechanical keyboards don't come cheap because they're like the sports cars, you're not going to find a 'cheap' sports car... that's just an oxymoron.

Oh, I agree that clicky keyboards feel better to type on. I only said what is well known by those that aren't blinded by marketing hype. $100 for a keyboard, no matter HOW "clicky" it is, is just retarded. Also, in reply to your question about where the figures came, I have a platinum account on GlobalSources. My family has done business in Asia for nearly 20 years. I logged in and checked what you can source these types of keyboards for. The Some of them are as high as $20 for full blown "gaming" keyboards with backlight, programmable keys, and other "high performance" specs.

KarateB0b 02-14-2013 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctsinc (Post 57580284)
Oh, I agree that clicky keyboards feel better to type on. I only said what is well known by those that aren't blinded by marketing hype. $100 for a keyboard, no matter HOW "clicky" it is, is just retarded. Also, in reply to your question about where the figures came, I have a platinum account on GlobalSources. My family has done business in Asia for nearly 20 years. I logged in and checked what you can source these types of keyboards for. The Some of them are as high as $20 for full blown "gaming" keyboards with backlight, programmable keys, and other "high performance" specs.

you have no idea what you're talking about.

Turdworm 02-14-2013 12:01 PM

Do I want the Corsair K60 or this Logitech 710?

shiroikaze 02-14-2013 12:09 PM

Heads up for anyone interested, Corsair will be releasing updated versions of the K60 and K95 soon. All mechanical instead of mostly mechanical.

Info on the K95 is on their website, http://www.corsair.com/k95/

Though they're pretty tight-lipped about the K65...

KarateB0b 02-14-2013 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turdworm (Post 57580356)
Do I want the Corsair K60 or this Logitech 710?

If the K60 is $60 or 65, the K60......but if it's $90, and you want any of the extra features of the logitech (or quieter keys) then the $100 G710+ is better. There are some other options in the $60 range, but nothing in the same class as the Logitech. It's all about what features you'll be using.

Zephon13 02-14-2013 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctsinc (Post 57580284)
Oh, I agree that clicky keyboards feel better to type on. I only said what is well known by those that aren't blinded by marketing hype. $100 for a keyboard, no matter HOW "clicky" it is, is just retarded. Also, in reply to your question about where the figures came, I have a platinum account on GlobalSources. My family has done business in Asia for nearly 20 years. I logged in and checked what you can source these types of keyboards for. The Some of them are as high as $20 for full blown "gaming" keyboards with backlight, programmable keys, and other "high performance" specs.

You do realize those are all cheap, shitty knockoffs of real Cherry MX switches... right?

So yea, that means your point is not actually a point. It's useless information that doesn't contribute anything to this thread.

juvenescence 02-14-2013 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctsinc (Post 57577324)
NOW that is the case, but it's ironic because when mechanical keyboards were the norm, the quieter and more technologically advanced "membrane" keyboards were several times more expensive to produce than "old style clicky" mechanical keyboards.

These aren't really that expensive to manufacture, in fact. They are manufactured in and sourced from China for $4-$9 each.

Please do enlighten me where you are getting these figures from. Not bashing, I really do want to know what Chinese factory is selling these for $4-$9 each. Because I would definitely pick a couple of these up at that price.

Turdworm 02-14-2013 12:19 PM

Logitech has brown switches.

Corsair has red switches.

Which is best for gaming? Quick double tapping? Quick actuation? Etc?

Raines8416 02-14-2013 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Larron (Post 57570544)
Seems decent, but you're taking a chance. A lot of the recent reviews say the backlight fails after just a few hours or days.

Spending that kind of money on a keyboard, you'd expect one of the key features to work for more than a few days.

Bought mine shortly after Newegg first stocked them. Haven't had a single issue. Love the action on the cherry browns, and the factory o-ring "mod" is a great touch.

Chocobo 02-14-2013 12:25 PM

Great keyboard, but a warning- you should strongly consider whether the macro keys on the left side of the keyboard will get in your way and bother you. I didn't think they would and I bought the CM Storm Trigger... I had to sell it because the macro keys were so annoying.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turdworm (Post 57580770)
Logitech has brown switches.

Corsair has red switches.

Which is best for gaming? Quick double tapping? Quick actuation? Etc?

Completely a matter of personal preference. For gaming specifically, there might be a slight preference towards black and red over brown overall, but people don't all agree on it. I personally love blues for both typing and gaming.

bbqbot 02-14-2013 12:26 PM

I kinda really want one...but I shouldn't. But I want one.

Zephon13 02-14-2013 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chocobo (Post 57580920)
Completely a matter of personal preference. For gaming specifically, there might be a slight preference towards black and red over brown overall, but people don't all agree on it. I personally love blues for both typing and gaming.

^^ Second on the blues. That click is just so satisfying. lol

badz 02-14-2013 12:38 PM

I'm sorry this is a blind question.. but what are all of these references to blue's, red's, brown's, and whatever other colors?? Thanks!

Mralexander006 02-14-2013 12:42 PM

Some may also want to consider Monoprice's higher end mechanical gaming keyboard:

http://www.monoprice.com/products...1&format=2

On sale of $90.86 right now, plus shipping.

ayaneko 02-14-2013 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dbuff (Post 57579692)
That was my issue, thanks for saving me some time. The CoolerMaster was also the same overall size as my old Saitek standard keyboard, but they added the macro buttons to the left thus causing them to skrunch (sp?) the standard keys.

I am looking for keyboard that:
1. Mechanical
2. Backlit
3. Keep keys same size as standard KB
4. Has a full compliment of keys (some dont)
5. Doesnt really need to have macro keys

Any suggestions?

The Rosewills on sale right now at newegg might fit what you want, except they're non-backlit. It has the same form as most OEM keyboards with no extra frills. http://slickdeals.net/f/5852158-R...-FS-Newegg

Raines8416 02-14-2013 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctsinc (Post 57577324)
These aren't really that expensive to manufacture, in fact. They are manufactured in and sourced from China for $4-$9 each.

I am honestly very interested if you can point me to where I can purchase a cheap mechanical keyboard, preferably with cherry blacks. I would love to get for use at work if I can get it for under $30.

I can't say I've found many cheap 'direct from China' mechanical keyboards being offered like most other electronics.

ctsinc 02-14-2013 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by juvenescence (Post 57580768)
Please do enlighten me where you are getting these figures from. Not bashing, I really do want to know what Chinese factory is selling these for $4-$9 each. Because I would definitely pick a couple of these up at that price.

GlobalSources.

Most OEM on that site sell containers in bulk. You usually can't buy just one or two. Some companies will however, sell you a demo model for a very low price, but you'll need a membership to GlobalSources, and need to discuss a B2B transaction with the OEM. It sounds more complicated than it actually is. Give it a try.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raines8416 (Post 57581524)
I am honestly very interested if you can point me to where I can purchase a cheap mechanical keyboard, preferably with cherry blacks. I would love to get for use at work if I can get it for under $30.

I can't say I've found many cheap 'direct from China' mechanical keyboards being offered like most other electronics.

See above

Chocobo 02-14-2013 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by badz (Post 57581288)
I'm sorry this is a blind question.. but what are all of these references to blue's, red's, brown's, and whatever other colors?? Thanks!

It's the type of mechanical keys that the keyboard uses. Here is a detailed guide to how each color works: http://www.overclock.net/t/491752...st_6009482

ctsinc 02-14-2013 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zephon13 (Post 57580678)
You do realize those are all cheap, shitty knockoffs of real Cherry MX switches... right?

So yea, that means your point is not actually a point. It's useless information that doesn't contribute anything to this thread.

LOL how do you "knockoff" a technological design, especially something as ridiculously simple as a keyboard switch? Going one step further with that, how can you knock off something that you are the original manufacturer for?

Quote:

Originally Posted by KarateB0b (Post 57580338)
you have no idea what you're talking about.

Funny, that's what I would say to you... and I'd be right.

EDIT: I doubt a "computer hardware guru" has any knowledge whatsoever of B2B product sourcing. You are way out of your element with this subject. Walk on little man, walk on.

Turdworm 02-14-2013 12:57 PM

The butthurt is strong in this thread.

Raines8416 02-14-2013 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctsinc (Post 57581532)
GlobalSources.

Most OEM on that site sell containers in bulk. You usually can't buy just one or two. Some companies will however, sell you a demo model for a very low price, but you'll need a membership to GlobalSources, and need to discuss a B2B transaction with the OEM. It sounds more complicated than it actually is. Give it a try.

See above


So in other words, thats not really a site meant for a single end user to purchase a single unit. I was hoping for something more along the lines of a typical click and buy online store. This doesn't seem very useful for end users.

mryanbrown 02-14-2013 01:03 PM

"These are much cheaper if you buy 10,000 units of them."

KarateB0b 02-14-2013 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctsinc (Post 57581622)
EDIT: I doubt a "computer hardware guru" has any knowledge whatsoever of B2B product sourcing. You are way out of your element with this subject. Walk on little man, walk on.

Sorry, you really have no business being in this thread. You have no idea what you're talking about. You're well out of your league, and you're trolling at this point.

sangdargent 02-14-2013 01:05 PM

On sale now. I'll grab one, hopefully I don't have to RMA for any LED or other issues.

Turdworm 02-14-2013 01:05 PM

I bought one.

DarkWarrior 02-14-2013 01:08 PM

"Hey guys, this keyboard is freaking overpriced. Check out this Chinese wholesale site, if you buy like 1000 it's much cheaper for an inferior keyboard!"

Thread-crapping at its finest..

Anyways, as much as I love Logitech, this keyboard has some QC issues. The backlights died on mine so I had to return it. It's a pretty common issue based on reviews, which is a shame because the keyboard is otherwise fantastic.

KITHPOM 02-14-2013 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuzukiDan7 (Post 57579010)
I am still using a 1981 IBM mechanical keyboard. Have thousands of hours on this gaming, typing, working etc. Its so loud and ugly people always laugh at me for it but I love it! The mechanical feel is better for sure. A definitive click confirms each keypress, unlike mooshy membrane kbs. So when typing a password, I dont have to stop and think "hmmm i wonder if that keypress registered".

As for this deal, I do feel that there is a lot of markup on mechanical "gaming" keyboards. I would like to upgrade my 1981 model but but its hard to justify it for $100. I do think these cost more to produce but Im willing to bet the markup on these things is a lot more than you think. Probably in the realm of 300-1000%. But as someone else said, its a luxury item just like jewelry so its to be expected.

I think the margins are considerably lower when the sales bring them down to $50-$60. I would have a harder time buying the $100 unit, $50-$60 is much more reasonable.
Quote:

Originally Posted by ayaneko (Post 57581464)
The Rosewills on sale right now at newegg might fit what you want, except they're non-backlit. It has the same form as most OEM keyboards with no extra frills. http://slickdeals.net/f/5852158-R...-FS-Newegg

Sale is over :( though the black [newegg.com] should still be $60 which is a great price.
Quote:

Originally Posted by ctsinc (Post 57581622)
LOL how do you "knockoff" a technological design, especially something as ridiculously simple as a keyboard switch? Going one step further with that, how can you knock off something that you are the original manufacturer for?

They aren't genuine cherry switches so you shouldn't have expectation to have the same quality and reliability.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Raines8416 (Post 57581824)
So in other words, thats not really a site meant for a single end user to purchase a single unit. I was hoping for something more along the lines of a typical click and buy online store. This doesn't seem very useful for end users.

Besides losing the quality controls brand names potentially require of these manufacturers he's stating pricing that doesn't include resale markups. Not realistic.

bbqbot 02-14-2013 01:10 PM

Can't fight it any longer. In for one. I've never used this phrase with anything except irony and contempt, but...

YOLO

yellowlt4 02-14-2013 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zephon13 (Post 57578618)
I have a BlackWidow at work and a BlackWidow Ultimate with the blue LED's at home. The Ultimate is a much more solid keyboard, but also $130. The base model was only $60, but the key switches are up to the same quality. I'm at a PC for a good 8-14 hours a day so this makes a huge impact on my productivity. Considering I can pull off an easy 100+wpm on mechanical while on a crappy rubber dome keyboard that drops to a crappy 70avg... Not to mention it's tiring after a few hours of typing.

tldr; Mech > Rubber Dome. Period.

I love my BlackWidow Ultimate, its been a fantastic board, with that said I prefer this Logitech. I just purchased another one that will likely be replacing the BlackWidow for now. These dampened Brown switches are just a complete joy to type on.

tam421602 02-14-2013 01:11 PM

got one! 97 dollars shipped!

WilliamG 02-14-2013 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tam421602 (Post 57582254)
got one! 97 dollars shipped!

$97?

Bought one for $99.99 with free 2-day shoprunner woot!

PMantis24 02-14-2013 01:13 PM

I have to say this is very tempting! but my G15 still works fine. Damnit SD! too many SD purchases in the past few weeks.

ctsinc 02-14-2013 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KarateB0b (Post 57581990)
Sorry, you really have no business being in this thread. You have no idea what you're talking about. You're well out of your league, and you're trolling at this point.

My family has done substantial business overseas in Taiwan and China. I'm well aware of how easily it is to procure these products from Asian sources. I've made hundreds of thousands doing exactly that. Unless you own a company valued at more than 3 million, which owes the majority of its holdings to the import/export business, YOU are in fact, the one that's out of his league.

tam421602 02-14-2013 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamG (Post 57582368)
$97?

Bought one for $99.99 with free 2-day shoprunner woot!

yeah, left over gc... haha

KarateB0b 02-14-2013 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctsinc (Post 57582398)
My family has done substantial business overseas in Taiwan and China. I'm well aware of how easily it is to procure these products from Asian sources. I've made hundreds of thousands doing exactly that. Unless you own a company valued at more than 3 million, which owes the majority of its holdings to the import/export business, YOU are in fact, the one that's out of his league.

how many keyboards have you made?

Zephon13 02-14-2013 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yellowlt4 (Post 57582248)
I love my BlackWidow Ultimate, its been a fantastic board, with that said I prefer this Logitech. I just purchased another one that will likely be replacing the BlackWidow for now. These dampened Brown switches are just a complete joy to type on.

I've really been considering an upgrade to a Das... with the blank keycaps. It's just so elegant and awesome... After spending 1800 on a new tower build, though... I can't really justify spending more on that setup right now haha.

Raines8416 02-14-2013 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctsinc (Post 57582398)
My family has done substantial business overseas in Taiwan and China. I'm well aware of how easily it is to procure these products from Asian sources. I've made hundreds of thousands doing exactly that. Unless you own a company valued at more than 3 million, which owes the majority of its holdings to the import/export business, YOU are in fact, the one that's out of his league.

Wow, this is getting pretty sad.

Zephon13 02-14-2013 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctsinc (Post 57581622)
LOL how do you "knockoff" a technological design, especially something as ridiculously simple as a keyboard switch? Going one step further with that, how can you knock off something that you are the original manufacturer for?

Funny, that's what I would say to you... and I'd be right.

EDIT: I doubt a "computer hardware guru" has any knowledge whatsoever of B2B product sourcing. You are way out of your element with this subject. Walk on little man, walk on.

Brand Name: Kailh

Oh yea, bro, that sounds a lot like Cherry to me. I guess that's how you say it in Chinese?

sangdargent 02-14-2013 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctsinc (Post 57582398)
My family has done substantial business overseas in Taiwan and China. I'm well aware of how easily it is to procure these products from Asian sources. I've made hundreds of thousands doing exactly that. Unless you own a company valued at more than 3 million, which owes the majority of its holdings to the import/export business, YOU are in fact, the one that's out of his league.

this is quite silly. you just proved his point. you shouldn't really be talking because this thread is about a "deal" on a product that consumers want. your entire argument up to this point is based on a biased perspective of keyboard manufacturing, which tbh none of us are really interested in because there's hardly any gain for us to know. so what if keyboards are made cheaper? same can be said about nike, the price of gas, the cost of a talking elmo doll. you are still making arguments in a thread where no one cares to hear.

redGSRguy 02-14-2013 01:20 PM

Picked one up, thanks!

Parker1974 02-14-2013 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KarateB0b (Post 57581990)
Sorry, you really have no business being in this thread. You have no idea what you're talking about. You're well out of your league, and you're trolling at this point.

I think some of his info is interesting and borderline useful, but his manner of presentation isn't going to win him any friends. Clearly, this is a good deal on this product. TU because that's the bottom line. Whether or not the product itself is worth buying, well, that's a separate debate.

@ctsinc: I think people here are looking for an easy way to leverage your info. We're SDers, so getting a comparable product for far less money is certainly something we'd be interested in. Membership in GlobalSources just isn't a practical answer for the vast majority. There's a guy in my company who has a membership, so maybe I'll try to go down that road, but if you have any other ideas to make use of your info, post 'em up.

serra 02-14-2013 01:24 PM

please stay on topic to the deal

yellowlt4 02-14-2013 01:24 PM

Its silly to think someone could build a board of this quality for less than $10. As someone who works in the procurement world for large vendors like Logitech I can promise you with 100% certainty that the switches alone to make this board are costing in the neighborhood of $18-20 and likely more depending on Logitech's options. While margins are likely a little high even at this price point, it was well worth the $120 I paid for my first one at easily worth $99 for a second one.

ctsinc 02-14-2013 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KITHPOM (Post 57582194)
I think the margins are considerably lower when the sales bring them down to $50-$60. I would have a harder time buying the $100 unit, $50-$60 is much more reasonable.

Sale is over :( though the black [newegg.com] should still be $60 which is a great price.

They aren't genuine cherry switches so you shouldn't have expectation to have the same quality and reliability.

Besides losing the quality controls brand names potentially require of these manufacturers he's stating pricing that doesn't include resale markups. Not realistic.

1. A reasonable scenario is 1000 units sold at $10 a piece. With shipping costs and import fees, you're looking at an approximate net investment of around $12 per. With logistics and business continuity expenses you could factor in another 20-30% on top of that, with a gross cost of no more than $20 per item. Selling at $50-60 per item is almost always a minimum yield of 80-100%. Frequently, for items of this type, you can expect a 200-300% gross profit margin.

2. What is a "geniun cherry switch"? Cherry switches are a design, not a manufacturer's trademark. It has to do with the way the switches are built, not who built them. Case in point, one of my best friends owns an LCD company in Taiwan. They sell rebadged panels to many different companies, some of which are "higher end" companies and some of which are "no name" companies. The part themselves are in fact, the same. To illustrate another example, a great deal of Express-branded clothing are rebadged articles which are also sold in stores such as Walmart and Target, under different brand names.

You are ABSOLUTELY right about quality control. The 'higher end' companies frequently invest more into quality control than others. Case in point: referring to the previous example provided, Express typically does a better job of rejecting flawed clothing when compared to Walmart, and they have higher continuity expenses as a result, but the higher price you pay is far and above those additional operating expenses. You are also paying a great deal extra just for that silk-screened logo that people seem to covet so much.

In the end, paying $100 for a keyboard is just silly to someone like me, that knows how inexpensively they can be acquired. For others that have no experience in import/export, it might be viewed as a bargain.

leaverus 02-14-2013 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frontierboy (Post 57571390)
Wow, $100 for a freaking keyboard ?.... Does it do more than type a letter when you press a key?

don't google optimus maximus. you will have a heart attack.

dragon23 02-14-2013 01:30 PM

Love this, I come to SD for both deals and education!

yellowlt4 02-14-2013 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shiroikaze (Post 57580556)
Heads up for anyone interested, Corsair will be releasing updated versions of the K60 and K95 soon. All mechanical instead of mostly mechanical.

Info on the K95 is on their website, http://www.corsair.com/k95/

Though they're pretty tight-lipped about the K65...

Looks good, its the board the K90 should have been. Too bad its still using MX Red switches.

redGSRguy 02-14-2013 01:42 PM

Waiting on a deal for the G600 mouse to go with this keyboard...

XealO 02-14-2013 01:51 PM

This keyboard or should I wait on a Razer Blackwidow Ultimate deal?

yellowlt4 02-14-2013 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XealO (Post 57584096)
This keyboard or should I wait on a Razer Blackwidow Ultimate deal?

Two great boards with two different switches. I would suggest you try out the Blue and Brown switches and decide from there. I love Blues but simply prefer these dampened Browns on the Logitech.

iRabbitt 02-14-2013 02:08 PM

don't tactile mechanical switches cause knuckle separation and ligament damage?

Zephon13 02-14-2013 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leaverus (Post 57583186)
don't google optimus maximus. you will have a heart attack.

LOL The keyboard of all keyboards.

One badass piece of technology.

Zephon13 02-14-2013 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XealO (Post 57584096)
This keyboard or should I wait on a Razer Blackwidow Ultimate deal?

If you have a Micro Center nearby, go there. They have a few of the different mechanical keyboards in stock. I tried a few out there and decided I like the feel of the blues more than any of the others they had in stock. I know some people who hated using the BW Ultimate. I personally love it. I've played countless hours of StarCraft 2, Borderlands, LoL, Diablo 3, CS 1.6, and a bunch of others without ever having issues.

Raines8416 02-14-2013 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rattor (Post 57584642)
He did give a solution. He said you can call them up and bargain with them to get a sample product for the same price.

Of course, he also said you have to be negotiating with them about larger orders before they will send you a sample...

That is not a legitimate retail solution for consumers.

VOldis 02-14-2013 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deathsycthehe11 (Post 57574396)
I would recommend saving a extra 50 dollars and get a filco or even a ducky shine II. Or not saving and get the tkl cm quick fire. I would even recommend getting the old rosewill-rk9000 with costar( the filco mj1) than this.

http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/

Uses Costar Stabilizers too. Just bought one this winter. So nice.

Frontierboy 02-14-2013 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by johnyeros (Post 57575266)
duh.. and i'm giving an example.. if u use a computer for a few hour in a day may be you don't need a mechanical keyboard but for people who use it for ext period or play lots of game the investment in a better keyboard is worth it..

hence the pianist comparision.

we're not trying to convince anybody to switch to mechanical.. those who switch will never look back -- for a reason. if 100 bucks isn't worth it for you then don't spend it. spend that 100 bucks on beer or 99 cent game in the app store instead ;)

ummm, we're talking about a PC keyboard here buddy

saveitman 02-14-2013 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by dsandsake (Post 57571630)
Most (inexpensive) keyboards have small rubber domes under the keys which give off a kind of squishy undefined feel when you push a key. These higher end keyboards have mechanical switches instead of rubber domes, which are a lot better for gaming/typing. You get a better feel and responsiveness, especially for games which require quick or repeated keystrokes. I bought a Corsair mechanical keyboard and would never go back to regular dome keys. Logitech makes solid keyboards so this is actually a pretty good deal.

i dont think those improvements justify such a price hike though, but to each their own. I would rather have a gaming keyboard with more macro customizable buttons than a bare plain mechanical keyboard.

VOldis 02-14-2013 02:42 PM

For anyone that sits at the left extreme of their desk like I do, any "gaming keyboard" with macro buttons won't do. Some people even go tenkeyless.

You can easily make your own macros for the f-row or home/end cluster.

I picked a WASD because it was under 18'' wide, costar, simple, and would last a hell of a long time. Who cares what people want or like or think is good? Different things work for different people. That said, I would never go back to a rubber dome :)

If I had more space this Logitech looks like a nice keyboard. I like their stuff and I am glad they are making mechanical keyboards.

saveitman 02-14-2013 02:51 PM

i would consider a mech if when logitech releases the mech version of the G15/510 with the 2x3 macro layout as I use those keys for WASD and I avoid the standard keys for gaming because the buttons are always bigger and not columned right, i prefer the F keys size and the comfort of having my arms further apart.

ahan421 02-14-2013 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ctsinc (Post 57580284)
Oh, I agree that clicky keyboards feel better to type on. I only said what is well known by those that aren't blinded by marketing hype. $100 for a keyboard, no matter HOW "clicky" it is, is just retarded. Also, in reply to your question about where the figures came, I have a platinum account on GlobalSources. My family has done business in Asia for nearly 20 years. I logged in and checked what you can source these types of keyboards for. The Some of them are as high as $20 for full blown "gaming" keyboards with backlight, programmable keys, and other "high performance" specs.

Might be the most persistent backward logic threadcrappers I've ever seen. Saying that wholesale prices are much much lower is pretty pointless, no really??

Let me give you some insight... one of the top end brands of mechanical keyboards "Ducky Channel" is headquartered in Taiwan. Most of Ducky's parts and labor are sourced in China. Their prices are $100+ (mechanical keyboards have been at these prices for years)... nowhere in hell are you going to find even a basic mechanical keyboard wholesale to retailers in the $20 range.

As for the this G710 keyboard itself, in for one.

Hoping I don't run into led issues. Thank you op!

Rattor 02-14-2013 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Raines8416 (Post 57585300)
That is not a legitimate retail solution for consumers.

I know. My response was tongue-in-cheek. I guess I should have included the :shake: smiley to show that.

Rattor 02-14-2013 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Frontierboy (Post 57585402)
ummm, we're talking about a PC keyboard here buddy

He's saying that just as weekend/non-serious musicians don't need expensive weighted-key piano keyboards and can make do with cheap rubber dome piano keyboards, people who don't use their keyboards much or for long periods don't really need (and won't see much benefit to) mechanical typing keyboards.

Capiche?

Frontierboy 02-14-2013 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Rattor (Post 57586236)
He's saying that just as weekend/non-serious musicians don't need expensive weighted-key piano keyboards and can make do with cheap rubber dome piano keyboards, people who don't use their keyboards much or for long periods don't really need (and won't see much benefit to) mechanical typing keyboards.

Capiche?

ummm, we're talking about a PC keyboard here buddy

iflabs 02-14-2013 03:14 PM

Damn it, none of these bloodsuckers make wireless versions.

ctsinc 02-14-2013 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Rattor (Post 57584268)
This response isn't directed towards this quote, just towards you in general.

What exactly is the purpose of coming here to say that these keyboards can be had at mass purchase prices of less? Is it to prove that the keyboards don't cost as much to make as they sell for? Well, d'uh. That's how everything in the world works. You pay more than what it actually costs to make. How does it help end consumers to show a place where retailers can buy cheaper electronics?

If you're going to butt into a thread, at least have the common decency to read it from the beginning.

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Originally Posted by Raines8416 (Post 57584620)
Your input is completely irrelevant to what this thread is supposed to be about.

This is a thread, on a forum, meant for end users to find good prices on retail products. Telling users they can do better while comparing retail pricing with 10,000 piece rates of wholesale OEM products is completely irrelevant to this deal, and even the entire forum.

Depsite all these claims of how easy it is to get it cheaper from China, you have yet to provide anyone with an easy, retail solution for consumers.

You should also read the thread from the start. I didn't start the conversation, I just posted a single comment.

Rattor 02-14-2013 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Frontierboy (Post 57586250)
ummm, we're talking about a PC keyboard here buddy

And the state of American education rears its ugly head with the inability of someone to fathom an analogy.

Rattor 02-14-2013 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ctsinc (Post 57586886)
If you're going to butt into a thread, at least have the common decency to read it from the beginning.


I did read it. And you didn't answer the question. What's the point of telling people that you can wholesale OEM order direct from manufacturer for "cheaper" than you can buy brand name retail, without mentioning that you have to order 1000+ units to get the cheaper price?

Quote:

You should also read the thread from the start. I didn't start the conversation, I just posted a single comment.
You did start this idiotic tangent. Hence, it could be said you started this conversation.

KITHPOM 02-14-2013 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ctsinc (Post 57583026)
In the end, paying $100 for a keyboard is just silly to someone like me, that knows how inexpensively they can be acquired. For others that have no experience in import/export, it might be viewed as a bargain.

Others can't acquire them for much cheaper. They are buying single units through retail channels, the only channels available to them. Posting the information you did is not helpful for the average slickdealer and that would be why your posts are being criticized.
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Originally Posted by iRabbitt (Post 57584664)
don't tactile mechanical switches cause knuckle separation and ligament damage?

No, sorry, that would be from masturbation. It's also where the hairy palms came from.
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Originally Posted by iflabs (Post 57586268)
Damn it, none of these bloodsuckers make wireless versions.

There was a model or two of wireless mechanical. There were some quality issues and I don't think sales warranted continued production.

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Originally Posted by Rattor (Post 57587344)
And the state of American education rears its ugly head with the inability of someone to fathom an analogy.

I wonder if there is a meme there.

Larron 02-14-2013 04:28 PM

Submit to Amazon for a possible price match. I find their return policy to be far better than Newegg's.

Go here:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009C98NPY

Search for tell us about a lower price

Parker1974 02-14-2013 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Frontierboy (Post 57586250)
ummm, we're talking about a PC keyboard here buddy

I don't know why, but I lol every time you do this.

On topic, I'm trying desperately to justify this purchase. I do game quite a bit, and I work from home using the same keyboard (which involves a lot of typing). But I just got a G510, which I'm fairly happy with. Feels fine, the LCD is a nice touch (though kinda pointless), and I've grown to really appreciate the volume rocker (which I realize the 710 has as well). I'm just not sure how much I'll benefit from this keyboard. Wish I hadn't just bought the 510.

Parker1974 02-14-2013 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Larron (Post 57587546)
Submit to Amazon for a possible price match. I find their return policy to be far better than Newegg's.

Go here:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009C98NPY

Search for tell us about a lower price

Good call. Done. Everybody please do this! I have Amazon credit up the proverbial wazoo!

Frontierboy 02-14-2013 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Parker1974 (Post 57587612)
I don't know why, but I lol every time you do this.

.

Yeah messing with people on here is pretty funny

badboyeee 02-14-2013 04:59 PM

ahh trying to decide between this or the monoprice mechanical keyboard cherry red: http://www.monoprice.com/products...&p_id=9181

wish i can try both at the same time... from what I read i would like brown better then red keys.. help anyone?

waynejohn497 02-14-2013 05:04 PM

ordered

KarateB0b 02-14-2013 05:29 PM

nice, amazon pricematched

sangdargent 02-14-2013 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by KarateB0b (Post 57588572)
nice, amazon pricematched

dang it, i wish i had waited. oh well, the newegg deal only lasted until 3PM PST, i guess i jumped on it then. wish i could use my prime shipping though.

badboyeee 02-14-2013 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by KarateB0b (Post 57588572)
nice, amazon pricematched

nice! i submitted to pricematch too. i have a gc to use. so in 4 1 @ Amazon. happy valentines day to meeee :heart: :heart: :heart:

unlimitedmp 02-14-2013 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by badboyeee (Post 57588092)
ahh trying to decide between this or the monoprice mechanical keyboard cherry red: http://www.monoprice.com/products...&p_id=9181

wish i can try both at the same time... from what I read i would like brown better then red keys.. help anyone?

Reds are very sensitive. It'd take me several days to get used to it fully.

I have browns and I like them, typing and gaming. If you have a Frys you can go and test them out in store.

KarateB0b 02-14-2013 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by sangdargent (Post 57588654)
dang it, i wish i had waited. oh well, the newegg deal only lasted until 3PM PST, i guess i jumped on it then. wish i could use my prime shipping though.

Shellshockers last until Midnight PST

XealO 02-14-2013 05:46 PM

Looks like they matched it! http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/...slicinc-20

Larron 02-14-2013 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by XealO (Post 57588834)

Woo Hoo!

Much, much MUCH better return policy at Amazon.

unlimitedmp 02-14-2013 06:19 PM

Amazon! I guess you can play the "If it the led breaks, swap" until you get a good one.

I'm tempted and I have a das :P

Larron 02-14-2013 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by unlimitedmp (Post 57589266)
Amazon! I guess you can play the "If it the led breaks, swap" until you get a good one.

I'm tempted and I have a das :P

Exactly, if I don't like it or the backlight fails, it's going back to Amazon for a full refund.

If you do that at Newegg, you get socked with a 15% restocking fee.

heheman3000 02-14-2013 06:22 PM

Browns are much quieter than blues; my co-workers can tolerate them. They were about to kill me for the few days I was using my blue keyboard in the office.

nick_dev 02-14-2013 06:24 PM

Jeez, i will never understand how people can spend $100 on a keyboard and call it a hot deal. I am an avid gamer and use Logitech K360 without a single problem, never have a problem using it for FPS, strategy or any other games with repetitive keystrokes required. I guess like they say, if you build it STUPIDS will come.

unlimitedmp 02-14-2013 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by nick_dev (Post 57589340)
Jeez, i will never understand how people can spend $100 on a keyboard and call it a hot deal. I am an avid gamer and use Logitech K360 without a single problem, never have a problem using it for FPS, strategy or any other games with repetitive keystrokes required. I guess like they say, if you build it STUPIDS will come.

Borrow one from a friend for a week and an open mind then come back and make an informed decision.

Even then, why do you care what other people like?

Larron 02-14-2013 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by nick_dev (Post 57589340)
Jeez, i will never understand how people can spend $100 on a keyboard and call it a hot deal. I am an avid gamer and use Logitech K360 without a single problem, never have a problem using it for FPS, strategy or any other games with repetitive keystrokes required. I guess like they say, if you build it STUPIDS will come.

I didn't buy it for gaming. I bought it for writing. I really don't like any of the recent membrane keyboards and the old membrane keyboards I do like are no longer made.

If you write or code for a living, this is the primary interface to your work. You'll pay for it in a few hours.

It's no more silly than spending $100 on a stupidly overpriced 2 TB hard drive. The price of the components in a 2TB drive probably a quarter of that or less. The only reason it costs $100 is because there are only two manufacturers left and they are blatantly price fixing.

Still, if it helps your business, it's $100 well spent.

menx 02-14-2013 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nick_dev (Post 57589340)
Jeez, i will never understand how people can spend $100 on a keyboard and call it a hot deal. I am an avid gamer and use Logitech K360 without a single problem, never have a problem using it for FPS, strategy or any other games with repetitive keystrokes required. I guess like they say, if you build it STUPIDS will come.

you're simply playing different games. makes a world of difference for example, if you play a CM Wiz in d3.

Larron 02-14-2013 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by heheman3000 (Post 57589314)
Browns are much quieter than blues; my co-workers can tolerate them. They were about to kill me for the few days I was using my blue keyboard in the office.

The browns in this Logitech should be quieter than other browns. The keys are fitted with noise dampening to reduce acoustics even more.

petrieslastword 02-14-2013 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nick_dev (Post 57589340)
Jeez, i will never understand how people can spend $100 on a keyboard and call it a hot deal. I am an avid gamer and use Logitech K360 without a single problem, never have a problem using it for FPS, strategy or any other games with repetitive keystrokes required. I guess like they say, if you build it STUPIDS will come.

So now we know you don't play any of these games at a high level of play. Noted.

Tarbo 02-14-2013 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by XealO (Post 57588834)

I told amazon about the newegg price a few hours ago so I could use my gift cards :D Time to give this keyboard a try! I plan to spray paint that fugly orange.

cHaNg-sTa 02-14-2013 06:49 PM

Just found out these use Cherry MX stabilizers. Not a deal breaker, but I definitely prefer Costar stabilizers. Too bad =/ I would've added this to my collection if it did.

Tarbo 02-14-2013 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by cHaNg-sTa (Post 57589706)
Just found out these use Cherry MX stabilizers. Not a deal breaker, but I definitely prefer Costar stabilizers. Too bad =/ I would've added this to my collection if it did.

Ughhhhh. I forgot about that.. I dunno now ha. I think Cooler Master is coming out with an LED back lit mech board with costar stabilizers in a few months.

shaosam 02-14-2013 07:06 PM

Logitech is by far my favorite brand of PC gaming peripherals. If you want a mechanical keyboard this is pretty much cream of the crop.

ctsinc 02-14-2013 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Rattor (Post 57587410)
I did read it. And you didn't answer the question. What's the point of telling people that you can wholesale OEM order direct from manufacturer for "cheaper" than you can buy brand name retail, without mentioning that you have to order 1000+ units to get the cheaper price?

That information was merely provided to substantiate my awe at how the previously least desirable keyboards are now being sold as high end keyboards at a very dear price. Clearly you did NOT read the thread, as you said you had.

menx 02-14-2013 07:12 PM

all i will say about this whole business about what a fair price is...

i'm in Taipei right now...and the logitech and razer mechanical keyboards are even more expensive, despite all the products supposedly being sourced and made here/China. So whatev, I'll enjoy this G710+ that I dropped 100 bones for w/o any further thought on the matter.

cHaNg-sTa 02-14-2013 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by shaosam (Post 57589968)
Logitech is by far my favorite brand of PC gaming peripherals. If you want a mechanical keyboard this is pretty much cream of the crop.

While Logitech makes great peripherals, calling this the cream of the crop in terms of mechanical keyboards is a bit hasty. Filco, Das, and a few other mech keyboard specific brands have been known for having extremely high quality keyboards. Logitech doesn't really have a history of mechanical keyboards.

mryanbrown 02-14-2013 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ctsinc (Post 57589976)
That information was merely provided to substantiate my awe at how the previously least desirable keyboards are now being sold as high end keyboards at a very dear price. Clearly you did NOT read the thread, as you said you had.

Whoa, let's get a few things straight...

EVERYONE desires a mechanical keyboard, it's the cost premium that persuades users to 'favor' membrane keyboards. Mechanical keyboards haven't really gone down in price since their inception, they have always had a premium associated with them. Membranes are simply more cost efficient, and mass production further reduces that cost. Therefore they obtain a higher market share.

To pretend or insinuate a mechanical keyboard is in any way the lesser of a membrane regarding quality is simply asinine.

Lastly, I'm quite confident that a mechanical keyboards markup aka profit margin is on par percentage wise with membrane keyboards.

Parker1974 02-14-2013 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Tarbo (Post 57589680)
I told amazon about the newegg price a few hours ago so I could use my gift cards :D Time to give this keyboard a try! I plan to spray paint that fugly orange.

Re: the gift cards, same here. I've got a little stack of 'em, ready to use on overpriced, undesirable items like this. And per nick_dev, apparently I'm STUPID as well (noted, not simply stupid, but STUPID). As STUPID as all the other folks giving this thread a 5 TU rating thus far.

tl;dr - in.

kataxist 02-14-2013 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ctsinc (Post 57589976)
That information was merely provided to substantiate my awe at how the previously least desirable keyboards are now being sold as high end keyboards at a very dear price. Clearly you did NOT read the thread, as you said you had.

A little late but just noting.

You know the ridiculous margins apply to a lot of things in life right?

Clothes obviously don't cost as much to make as you buy them in the store.

There are a lot of hidden factors in manufacturing. A cheap knockoff from china versus something you would buy from logitech.

Maybe you're right. It costs barely more to make. You can buy the parts for really cheap.

Let's say $10 vs $15.

You could buy the $10 keyboard.

But what about the $15 keyboard? Maybe theres a lot of quality control behind? Maybe there's hidden testing. How can you be so exactly sure?

I used to work at a highly technical fabrics company that dealt with military/mountaineering use fabrics. That stuff was obviously a similar cost to make as a jacket from walmart. But there's a lot more R&D and testing than meets the eye. The stuff has to repel dirt, water, sweat, abrasion. They do 100 hours of abrasion testing and 100 wash cycles in harsh detegerent to ensure the jacket will hold up. Does a jacket from walmart have that? I highly doubt it.

The products are representative of the company. If there's a quality failure, you as the consumer will blame them. You can bet there R&D and testing with strict QC that goes behind these products. For example, go check out the 27" IPS debacle with apple monitors on ebay for $300.

Anyhow, just noting where all the product cost went.

bbqbot 02-14-2013 07:33 PM

Uhm...is it possible to "refuse delivery" of the newegg one (writing that + "return to sender" on box) and not be penalized? Would much rather go through amazon.

joe221 02-14-2013 07:36 PM

I've had mine since it first released last year. The lights are still going strong. My only real nit is the super bright non-adjustable lights for num lock and caps lock. They are annoying if on. Other than that a really nice mech keyboard. Oh yeah, orange? Really Logitech?

mryanbrown 02-14-2013 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by bbqbot (Post 57590410)
Uhm...is it possible to "refuse delivery" of the newegg one (writing that + "return to sender" on box) and not be penalized? Would much rather go through amazon.

Yes, just notify the delivery driver that you refuse the package. If they leave it when you aren't present it gets more complicated. You can write "REFUSED" on FedEx/USPS and return them to the carrier (this may also apply for UPS) but couriers aren't as easy to deal with.

jdonkey123 02-14-2013 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by subzi (Post 57574760)
First off, what is wrong with current crop of SDers? I have seen it in many posts recently where they will complain how expensive the product is and "why would you even buy this shit" and most of the time, they dont know anything about the product! If you are not going to buy the product and have no knowledge as to why its worth the money it is, then dont THREAD CRAP! Move on! I love slickdeals for what it is and I dont want it to become a place where people comment like youtubers.

Anyway!

This is a nice deal. I bought mine for 120 from Logitech a couple of months ago.

I was using a dell keyboard before i bought this and I too was skeptical about mechanical keyboards but now, I love this keyboard! Its great for gaming and its a pleasure typing away.

Aside from the "noise" factor, the keyboard is really well built, its a LOT heavier than you think it would be. I like how there are two options for backlight, one for gaming, lights up the "WSAD" and arrow keys, the other for rest of the keys. The backlight is very bright but good thing it has 5 levels of brightness. There is an extra USB port on it, which I use all the time.

I think many serious gamers will like that fact that you can program different layouts for different games and situations.

It does take a while to while to get used to the new "feel" of the keyboard and the hand placement is a bit off from regular keyboards, because of the extra keys on the left.

Overall, its a fantastic keyboard and yes its more expensive than your regular keyboard, its worth shows in its quality and features.

Basically ditto. If I dont' see any value in a flaming anal plunging auto-inserter, then I will just quietly bitch to myself and not TC for all the people who think that kinda thing is hot.

VOldis 02-14-2013 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Larron (Post 57589574)
The browns in this Logitech should be quieter than other browns. The keys are fitted with noise dampening to reduce acoustics even more.


And you can always buy your own O-rings.

http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/inde...eners.html

jpmxch 02-14-2013 07:47 PM

I went with Corsair K90 because it was cheaper at the time, but at $100 the Logitech seems to be the choice.

UltimateUber 02-14-2013 07:50 PM

I've recently had bad experiences with Logitech gaming products and customer service. My G9 mouse and g35 headphones have each failed twice now. I am very gentle with my things and have never had a problem with this level of product failure from other brands. The G9 and G35 each seem to have about a one year lifespan with 4hour/day use.

I've been waiting for a response on my latest customer service inquiry regarding the g35's earcup breaking off (a common problem) for 9 days now. I think they are ignoring me.

If you thought you were paying a premium for better quality or customer service from Logitech (at least for their gaming products), you are not getting your money's worth.

BoldIntrepid 02-14-2013 07:51 PM

I really want this but my budget won't allow me :(

Tarbo 02-14-2013 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joe221 (Post 57590460)
I've had mine since it first released last year. The lights are still going strong. My only real nit is the super bright non-adjustable lights for num lock and caps lock. They are annoying if on. Other than that a really nice mech keyboard. Oh yeah, orange? Really Logitech?

The keyboard looks way better without the fugly orange!
http://www.overclock.net/content/...d/1088566/

nick_dev 02-14-2013 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by petrieslastword (Post 57589642)
So now we know you don't play any of these games at a high level of play. Noted.

play a lot more than you think, buying a $100 keyboard does not make you gamer just like buying a F1 doesn't make you a racer.

mryanbrown 02-14-2013 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nick_dev (Post 57590848)
play a lot more than you think, buying a $100 keyboard does not make you gamer just like buying a F1 doesn't make you a racer.

But an F1 can make you a better racer than a Ford Focus.

nick_dev 02-14-2013 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by menx (Post 57589424)
you're simply playing different games. makes a world of difference for example, if you play a CM Wiz in d3.

I don't know, maybe i am missing something 'cause I do play variety of games like BF3, WOW, Just Cause 2, Portal and lots of multiplayer on BF3 but have never needed to buy an advanced keyboard.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Larron (Post 57589414)
I didn't buy it for gaming. I bought it for writing. I really don't like any of the recent membrane keyboards and the old membrane keyboards I do like are no longer made.

If you write or code for a living, this is the primary interface to your work. You'll pay for it in a few hours.

It's no more silly than spending $100 on a stupidly overpriced 2 TB hard drive. The price of the components in a 2TB drive probably a quarter of that or less. The only reason it costs $100 is because there are only two manufacturers left and they are blatantly price fixing.

Still, if it helps your business, it's $100 well spent.

I think I have to see it for myself, can't seem to justify spending that much money on a keyboard and I primarily game on PC, had an XBOX for few months and gave it away.

nick_dev 02-14-2013 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unlimitedmp (Post 57589392)
Borrow one from a friend for a week and an open mind then come back and make an informed decision.

Even then, why do you care what other people like?

I don't care. I just don't justify spending $100 on a keyboard, I do play variety of games from FPS to strategy to RPG and use Logitech K360 and have never need to buy a keyboard, It was $13 and I have never had problems with its keys or quick movement required in certain games.

rustystick 02-14-2013 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nick_dev (Post 57590964)
I don't care. I just don't justify spending $100 on a keyboard, I do play variety of games from FPS to strategy to RPG and use Logitech K360 and have never need to buy a keyboard, It was $13 and I have never had problems with its keys or quick movement required in certain games.

people don't have problems with apple pos headphones... but they are garbage

krazymop 02-14-2013 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petrieslastword (Post 57589642)
So now we know you don't play any of these games at a high level of play. Noted.

lol at equating skill level to how much one is willing to pay for a keyboard...

Larron 02-14-2013 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nick_dev (Post 57590878)
I think I have to see it for myself, can't seem to justify spending that much money on a keyboard and I primarily game on PC, had an XBOX for few months and gave it away.

I'd have liked to have tried one first as well, but it's difficult to find any stores that have mechanical keyboards set up for demo.

Microcenter sells a few different mechanical keyboards in store, but they're all boxed, nothing out for trial. Absolutely, completely stupid on Microcenter's part.

If you're that interested, buy one from a place that will take a return without a restocking fee, not Newegg.

cHaNg-sTa 02-14-2013 08:14 PM

Why do people bashing spending money on a quality keyboard? Why are you even here? This is like asking a car enthusiast why spend more than $15,000 on a car? You're gonna offend a lot of people that actually care about what they use.

That bottom line is that this is a good mechanical keyboard that is at a price lower than typical market price. People are happy to see the deal. You don't care? Deal with it.

WilliamG 02-14-2013 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tarbo (Post 57590720)
The keyboard looks way better without the fugly orange!
http://www.overclock.net/content/...d/1088566/

How do you remove the orange?

*EDIT*

Yuck... quite the process...

http://www.overclock.net/t/131658...6k-warning

Tucking_Fypo 02-14-2013 08:23 PM

Nice deal! Thank OP!

bmartai 02-14-2013 08:29 PM

my only experience is with brown switches, and I love them...but to each their own...ergo, I would recommend this while some wouldn't.

Rattor 02-14-2013 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctsinc (Post 57589976)
That information was merely provided to substantiate my awe at how the previously least desirable keyboards are now being sold as high end keyboards at a very dear price. Clearly you did NOT read the thread, as you said you had.

And as other people answered you, the tech is "older", but that's only because cheaper rubber dome tech came along. The best tech is not always the newest/cheapest. Mechanical switches are more expensive to manufacture, but they were also the first types of keyboards. Then, rubber dome tech came along and made keyboards cheaper to manufacture, but Cherry came along and made high quality mechanical switches that are more complex, more expensive, and more desirable to a subset of computer users. Just because the very basic underlying tech is older does not mean it's low end/least desirable.

KarateB0b 02-14-2013 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rattor (Post 57591756)
And as other people answered you, the tech is "older", but that's only because cheaper rubber dome tech came along. The best tech is not always the newest/cheapest. Mechanical switches are more expensive to manufacture, but they were also the first types of keyboards. Then, rubber dome tech came along and made keyboards cheaper to manufacture, but Cherry came along and made high quality mechanical switches that are more complex, more expensive, and more desirable to a subset of computer users. Just because the very basic underlying tech is older does not mean it's low end/least desirable.

That 'ctsinc' guy is a troll and doesn't understand technology, just ignore him

this2makeulaugh 02-14-2013 09:04 PM

does anybody have any history with this keyboard?

I'm really interested in a mechanical keyboard but I cannot stand loud ones. I'm looking for a good mechanical keyboard that isn't that loud. Perhaps somewhere close to a membrane keyboard. (I know it's not possible, but of course, the quieter the better)

mryanbrown 02-14-2013 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by this2makeulaugh (Post 57591860)
does anybody have any history with this keyboard?

I'm really interested in a mechanical keyboard but I cannot stand loud ones. I'm looking for a good mechanical keyboard that isn't that loud. Perhaps somewhere close to a membrane keyboard. (I know it's not possible, but of course, the quieter the better)

The closest feel and sound you can get to membrane is brown + o rings. Cherry + o ring would be second, then brown, then cherry.

this2makeulaugh 02-14-2013 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mryanbrown (Post 57591918)
The closest feel and sound you can get to membrane is brown + o rings. Cherry + o ring would be second, then brown, then cherry.

so in other words, this logitech one would be perfect? (since this logitech keyboard is using cherry brown switches + o rings)

I'm currently using a saitek eclipse II

Deathsycthehe11 02-14-2013 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mryanbrown (Post 57591918)
The closest feel and sound you can get to membrane is brown + o rings. Cherry + o ring would be second, then brown, then cherry.

Rofl not sure if this guy actually knows stuff or just trolling. Cherry is the company that makes the switches such as cherry mx brown, cherry mx red. Etc etc. Don't know where this guy got his info from. Anywho cherry mx brown with o-rings are said to be more quiet. YouTube it. Some people don't really notices much difference as it doesn't really makes it quieter but dampens it a little.

mryanbrown 02-14-2013 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deathsycthehe11 (Post 57592048)
Rofl not sure if this guy actually knows stuff or just trolling. Cherry is the company that makes the switches such as cherry mx brown, cherry mx red. Etc etc. Don't know where this guy got his info from. Anywho cherry mx brown with o-rings are said to be more quiet. YouTube it. Some people don't really notices much difference as it doesn't really makes it quieter but dampens it a little.

Go with Alps if you like, but it's different than Cherry so glwt.

this2makeulaugh 02-14-2013 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deathsycthehe11 (Post 57592048)
Rofl not sure if this guy actually knows stuff or just trolling. Cherry is the company that makes the switches such as cherry mx brown, cherry mx red. Etc etc. Don't know where this guy got his info from. Anywho cherry mx brown with o-rings are said to be more quiet. YouTube it. Some people don't really notices much difference as it doesn't really makes it quieter but dampens it a little.

haha, I have seriously gone back and forth debating if I should buy it. I want to, but I don't want to deal with returning it / selling it if I cannot stand the noise level.

The videos that I have youtube, it's so hard to tell exactly how loud it is because of their microphones. blah

KarateB0b 02-14-2013 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by this2makeulaugh (Post 57592030)
so in other words, this logitech one would be perfect? (since this logitech keyboard is using cherry brown switches + o rings)

I'm currently using a saitek eclipse II

Brown + O-rings = quietest. Perfect = entirely subjective.

this2makeulaugh 02-14-2013 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KarateB0b (Post 57592182)
Brown + O-rings = quietest. Perfect = entirely subjective.

definitely cannot argue about the "perfect" haha

Just out of curiosity..... Wouldn't a cherry mx black or cherry mx red with O-rings actually be quieter? I always thought blacks and reds were quieter switches than brown.

I used to have a cherry mx brown keyboard and it was quite loud. lol

KarateB0b 02-14-2013 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by this2makeulaugh (Post 57592238)
definitely cannot argue about the "perfect" haha

Just out of curiosity..... Wouldn't a cherry mx black or cherry mx red with O-rings actually be quieter? I always thought blacks and reds were quieter switches than brown.

I used to have a cherry mx brown keyboard and it was quite loud. lol

f&ck if i know, im drinking racer 5

Deathsycthehe11 02-14-2013 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by this2makeulaugh (Post 57592172)
haha, I have seriously gone back and forth debating if I should buy it. I want to, but I don't want to deal with returning it / selling it if I cannot stand the noise level.

The videos that I have youtube, it's so hard to tell exactly how loud it is because of their microphones. blah

Look. If you care bout noise that much don't get a mechanical keyboard. I have a filco
Mx brown keyboard. My friends always hear it on Skype while we game. Personally I don't notice the noise but its obviously a lot louder than a rubber dome and people will hear it when you type. People get mechanical keyboard for the feel and for some that satisfying click. So if you care about the noise it makes, please don't bother and stick with a rubber dome.

Note: personally I would not get Logitech or razor accessories. Is like buying a Bose speakers or Dr Dre headphones. They tend to overprice for the amount of quality they provide. Not saying they have crappy products but I would not pay the prices for them.

de3th 02-14-2013 09:35 PM

is there anyway to remove that orange border?

apexle 02-14-2013 09:38 PM

Well, I bought this for $125 on Sunday... so since amazon price matched:
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"Maricar:Item Price: $124.99 9:30:38 PM
Me:Yes:30:51 PM
Maricar:Thanks for contacting us about the recent price change on Logitech G710+ Mechanical Gaming . I recognize you have a choice of retailers and appreciate that you prefer to order from us. 9:32:05 PM
Me:Yes:32:21 PM
Maricar: Since the price of the item has changed within seven days of the delivery of the order, I'll issue a refund for the price difference in the amount of $25.00 for you. 9:32:40 PM
Me: Alright thank you VERY much 9:32:51 PM
Me: you have been very helpful 9:33:08 PM
Maricar: Thanks:) 9:33:16 PM
Maricar: Please wait as I process the refund for you.
I've always had good support from amazon. Thank you for being a part of that9:33:44 PM
Maricar:You're welcome:)9:34:19 PM
Maricar: I successfully sent the email for the refund for $25.00.9:34:43 PM
Maricar: Did you get the email? 9:35:11 PM
Me:let me check 9:35:54 PM
Maricar:Great:)"


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This is why I LOVE amazon. :nod:

BluddSimple 02-14-2013 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by de3th (Post 57592380)
is there anyway to remove that orange border?

Apparently you need to mod it, I saw this on another forum.

http://www.overclock.net/t/131658...6k-warning

de3th 02-14-2013 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BluddSimple (Post 57592418)
Apparently you need to mod it, I saw this on another forum.

http://www.overclock.net/t/131658...6k-warning

well that sucks. Prolly will void the warranty if I do that

ctz 02-14-2013 09:47 PM

CA tax (on both Newegg & Amazon) kills the deal. Wish Tigerdirect can price match it..,

mryanbrown 02-14-2013 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctz (Post 57592534)
CA tax (on both Newegg & Amazon) kills the deal. Wish Tigerdirect can price match it..,

I hereby thumbs down your post

arbitJP 02-14-2013 10:01 PM

XP isn't supported, I was planning to use this in the office... without XP support is this keyboard worth the dough?

KarateB0b 02-14-2013 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arbitJP (Post 57592716)
XP isn't supported, I was planning to use this in the office... without XP support is this keyboard worth the dough?

i *bet* it works fine under XP, just maybe the software might not. You still get quiet mechanical 100wpm+ goodness with backlighting and stuff. XP is over 11 years old now.....


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