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glico7122 02-15-2013 09:23 AM

lenovo IdeaPad 14" Ultrabook Intel Core i5 6GB DDR3, 500GB HDD + 32GB SSD U410 (43762CU) + FREE 2TB NAS - $649.99
 
lenovo IdeaPad 14" Ultrabook Intel Core i5 6GB DDR3, 500GB HDD + 32GB SSD U410 (43762CU) + FREE 2TB NAS - $649.99


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Pro...34-246-624

amax 02-15-2013 09:37 AM

Too bad the resolution blows chunks.

peteyboy100 02-15-2013 09:48 AM

Everyone complaining about the resolution... what gives? If you want to sit down for some hard core gaming, couldn't you connect to a high res monitor to get your nice resolution?

It would be the same as complaining about the "small" screen. "Man, I can't game on on a 14" screen!!"

RussSchultz 02-15-2013 09:51 AM

that resolution on a 14" isn't horrible, but the issue isn't about games. It's about browser and document real-estate. 1366x768 is just meh for any kind of browser work.

Also, I have no idea why they'd put a 610m on a device with a HD 4000, since they're just about equivalent performance.

Skoogra 02-15-2013 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RussSchultz (Post 57602100)
that resolution on a 14" isn't horrible, but the issue isn't about games. It's about browser and document real-estate. 1366x768 is just meh for any kind of browser work.

Also, I have no idea why they'd put a 610m on a device with a HD 4000, since they're just about equivalent performance.


Graphics
GPU/VPU
NVIDIA GeForce GT 610M
Video Memory
Dedicated 1GB
Graphic Type
Dedicated Card

It is because of the dedicated memory instead of using the HD4000 on the CPU and sharing the RAM from the rest of the computer. It is nice to have 8 or 16GB of RAM and another 1GB of dedicated video memory instead of slowing down other processes or operations.

Also, just a heads up. "Communications - LAN 10/100Mbps" (No Gigabit LAN) Wish it had 10/100/1000Mbps...

ParticleJG 02-15-2013 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RussSchultz (Post 57602100)
that resolution on a 14" isn't horrible, but the issue isn't about games. It's about browser and document real-estate. 1366x768 is just meh for any kind of browser work.

Also, I have no idea why they'd put a 610m on a device with a HD 4000, since they're just about equivalent performance.

Completely agreed. I got excited when I heard an ultrabook with a dedicated graphics card at this price point, then saw what dedicated video card it was. :(

sahil80 02-15-2013 10:11 AM

I am in the market for a decently priced laptop, but all these laptops are showing up with this crappy 1366x768 resolution. My current i5 L410 Thinkpad has the same screen resolution and its not adequate for productivity, in particular if you happen to be a programmer/developer!

hottoys2012 02-15-2013 10:11 AM

would this be good for a resell if you sell the laptop and the free harddrive ?

tennisplayer888 02-15-2013 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hottoys2012 (Post 57602616)
would this be good for a resell if you sell the laptop and the free harddrive ?

No, not really.

xiphosurus 02-15-2013 10:20 AM

If you don't care for the NAS (which looks pretty lousy), Amazon is selling a newer model for $550.
http://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-U410...009AEPVFG/

Difference is the Amazon model has a bigger HDD (750GB), smaller SDD (24GB) and Windows 8 instead of 7.

doosty 02-15-2013 10:49 AM

want to pull the trigger but then i saw wireless connection issue....anyone have experience with this? is there a remedy for it?

rjohmit 02-15-2013 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doosty (Post 57603564)
want to pull the trigger but then i saw wireless connection issue....anyone have experience with this? is there a remedy for it?

From what I've read (cuz I'm interested in this machine), Lenovo acknowledged the hardware issue and said it was a problem on models build before July of last year.

Obviously when you order online you can't really tell when it was manufactured. Supposedly they'll repair the ones that have this problem.

aggravated 02-15-2013 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by peteyboy100 (Post 57602020)
Everyone complaining about the resolution... what gives? If you want to sit down for some hard core gaming, couldn't you connect to a high res monitor to get your nice resolution?

It would be the same as complaining about the "small" screen. "Man, I can't game on on a 14" screen!!"


Cause I like being able to open a webpage and immediately see more than their damn banner.

OsirisDev 02-15-2013 11:48 AM

1366x768 is a horrible resolution. The pixels are so large you can see them all. Text is blocky. Have you tried writing code at that resolution? You can see like 10 lines of text. You can't shrink the font down to smaller size because the pixels are so big the text becomes unreadable at smaller sizes.

Someone needs to slap the PC industry upside the head and make them start providing at least 900+ lines of vertical resolution. And lets please get back to 16:10 instead of 16:9 screens. It's not like the only thing I do on a laptop is watch movies in 16:9, and if I do I don't mind some black bars at the top and bottom.

I still use an old Dell D830 laptop (Core2Duo 1.8ghz) because it has a 1928x1200 resolution screen, which I can't find anywhere for under $1k.

bob13bob 02-15-2013 12:26 PM

14" screens a lot smaller than 14" screens back then. They are wider and squat. I also lament the laptop industry move in this direction, but.. This resolution suits the size just fine for out and about. It goes as small as my eyes can comfortably read. At home, you should be on external mouse/keyboard/monitor anyway.

http://i.imgur.com/DSuKVDK.jpg

taken from 14" e430 with same resolution.

this seems like a pretty good build for an ultrabook. You take the performance hit with the cpu downclocked to 1.7ghz tho.

worthmining 02-15-2013 12:58 PM

lenova's Ultrabook isn't exactly "Ultra".

iBoo 02-15-2013 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob13bob (Post 57606082)
14" screens a lot smaller than 14" screens back then. They are wider and squat. I also lament the laptop industry move in this direction, but.. This resolution suits the size just fine for out and about. It goes as small as my eyes can comfortably read. At home, you should be on external mouse/keyboard/monitor anyway.

http://i.imgur.com/DSuKVDK.jpg

taken from 14" e430 with same resolution.

this seems like a pretty good build for an ultrabook. You take the performance hit with the cpu downclocked to 1.7ghz tho.

im using a del latitude d620

comes with 1440x too:bounce:

bob13bob 02-15-2013 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iBoo (Post 57607086)
im using a del latitude d620

comes with 1440x too:bounce:

yeah, those older generation had better screens. But... that laptop is slow as shit these days.

iBoo 02-15-2013 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob13bob (Post 57607146)
yeah, those older generation had better screens. But... that laptop is slow as shit these days.


intel core 2 duo is pretty fast to me

bob13bob 02-15-2013 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iBoo (Post 57607154)
intel core 2 duo is pretty fast to me

depending on use. These days, the processors are A LOT faster. That d620 has pretty nice build qualit though, unlike all the modern dells.

iBoo 02-15-2013 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob13bob (Post 57607228)
depending on use. These days, the processors are A LOT faster. That d620 has pretty nice build qualit though, unlike all the modern dells.

yeah very nice build. great for companies!

my ucle has like 5+ and probably more. They gave it to him for free :lol:

rjohmit 02-15-2013 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by worthmining (Post 57606992)
lenova's Ultrabook isn't exactly "Ultra".

Meh...neither is the price. I'd like an X1 Carbon, but I dont have $1,300.

Pzark41 02-15-2013 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skoogra (Post 57602498)
Graphics
GPU/VPU
NVIDIA GeForce GT 610M
Video Memory
Dedicated 1GB
Graphic Type
Dedicated Card

It is because of the dedicated memory instead of using the HD4000 on the CPU and sharing the RAM from the rest of the computer. It is nice to have 8 or 16GB of RAM and another 1GB of dedicated video memory instead of slowing down other processes or operations.

Also, just a heads up. "Communications - LAN 10/100Mbps" (No Gigabit LAN) Wish it had 10/100/1000Mbps...

Total nub question, isn't Gigabit LAN only necessary if you're going to be downloading more than 100mb/s?

rjohmit 02-15-2013 01:40 PM

http://outlet.lenovo.com/SEUILibr...de=4376XC8

Its red, and its a refurb (still get a 1-year warranty though)...and it says it has HD3000 (which I question since its Ivy Bridge)...but its only $462.

realdreams 02-15-2013 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iBoo (Post 57607086)
im using a del latitude d620

comes with 1440x too:bounce:

I am still on D630...I tried E6420 but it was a big let down...
1. Screen resolution
2. Keyboard layout....

Now it's impossible to find a laptop with standard keyboard layout...

iBoo 02-15-2013 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by realdreams (Post 57609684)
I am still on D630...I tried E6420 but it was a big let down...
1. Screen resolution
2. Keyboard layout....

Now it's impossible to find a laptop with standard keyboard layout...

d620 , 630 :D

i need help fixing my keyboard key... i tried to pop it out but it somehow did but cant be removed

it still functions lol

realdreams 02-15-2013 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iBoo (Post 57610582)
d620 , 630 :D

i need help fixing my keyboard key... i tried to pop it out but it somehow did but cant be removed

it still functions lol

Why not just order a replacement keyboard? It is too much work to fix a laptop keyboard... almost every time I try to take a key off, I break the norch....

iBoo 02-15-2013 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by realdreams (Post 57610640)
Why not just order a replacement keyboard? It is too much work to fix a laptop keyboard... almost every time I try to take a key off, I break the norch....

im not sure what you mean... and im not sure even sure if a replacement keyboard is needed.

the piece is still attached but it wiggles like i can make the key look normal but then if you tap the sides, they tilt.

krissy 02-15-2013 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iBoo (Post 57610728)
im not sure what you mean... and im not sure even sure if a replacement keyboard is needed.

the piece is still attached but it wiggles like i can make the key look normal but then if you tap the sides, they tilt.

If it's just one key, try popping it out. I can't explain it well, but google your model, or a similar one, and there might be a youtube video with some instructions. I've done this to my laptop many times before.

ndm2p8 02-15-2013 07:56 PM

This computer is a NIGHTMARE. Honestly. I am returning it. Wireless is awful - even after the claimed fix. So, so slow! And customer service was hilariously bad. NO ONE could understand me and I got the run around for hours and hours trying to get this stuff figured out.

SSD doesn't seem to speed anything up. The only good thing is the form factor.

Oh - but I didn't mind the resolution myself.

And when I upgraded to Windows 8 - I had a TON of driver problems that I couldn't seem to get fixed.


All that being said, my brother has a U310 and loves it. One of the reasons I got the U410. My personal experience with this machine and Lenovo was just awful.

ndm2p8 02-15-2013 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rjohmit (Post 57603886)
From what I've read (cuz I'm interested in this machine), Lenovo acknowledged the hardware issue and said it was a problem on models build before July of last year.

Obviously when you order online you can't really tell when it was manufactured. Supposedly they'll repair the ones that have this problem.

I had this problem. I had so many problems it was not worth repairing. Even w/ the "repair" to the WiFi it seems like people still get really slow download speeds on WiFi. Super weird. Do some research on this.

cHaNg-sTa 02-15-2013 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xiphosurus (Post 57602808)
If you don't care for the NAS (which looks pretty lousy), Amazon is selling a newer model for $550.
http://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-U410...009AEPVFG/

Difference is the Amazon model has a bigger HDD (750GB), smaller SDD (24GB) and Windows 8 instead of 7.

What do you mean by NAS?

Just by looking at these two laptops. I don't know why anyone wouldn't get the Amazon one over the Newegg one. Why was this not posted? lol

xiphosurus 02-15-2013 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cHaNg-sTa (Post 57615326)
What do you mean by NAS?

Just by looking at these two laptops. I don't know why anyone wouldn't get the Amazon one over the Newegg one. Why was this not posted? lol

The Newegg deal comes with a separate 2TB NAS (network attached storage), which is a HDD you hook up to your network so you can use it as a shared network drive.

rjohmit 02-16-2013 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ndm2p8 (Post 57614840)
All that being said, my brother has a U310 and loves it. One of the reasons I got the U410. My personal experience with this machine and Lenovo was just awful.

Doesn't the U310 supposedly suffer from this same problem?

ndm2p8 02-16-2013 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rjohmit (Post 57619384)
Doesn't the U310 supposedly suffer from this same problem?

Apparently. The wifi still functions but if you run a speedtest of my U410 against my old laptop or my gf's macbook pro the difference in dl/upload speeds is stark. I am talking like....4 mbs on the U410 and 20-25 on the other two machines.

The difference is not as bad when you are right next to the router, but still there is a difference.

He said he hasn't noticed it being super slow, but he only has the U310 (so nothing to compare) and lives in a studio apartment.

I noticed this issue the first night I had the computer. Windows updates and what not were noticeably, excruciatingly slow to download.


And I saw 9 hours for battery life on the Amazon deal...wow - that is wayyyyy off. From a full charge and using intermittently at work on the most battery saving settings, I got about 5 hours.

rjohmit 02-16-2013 06:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ndm2p8 (Post 57619904)
Apparently. The wifi still functions but if you run a speedtest of my U410 against my old laptop or my gf's macbook pro the difference in dl/upload speeds is stark. I am talking like....4 mbs on the U410 and 20-25 on the other two machines.

The difference is not as bad when you are right next to the router, but still there is a difference.

He said he hasn't noticed it being super slow, but he only has the U310 (so nothing to compare) and lives in a studio apartment.

I noticed this issue the first night I had the computer. Windows updates and what not were noticeably, excruciatingly slow to download.


And I saw 9 hours for battery life on the Amazon deal...wow - that is wayyyyy off. From a full charge and using intermittently at work on the most battery saving settings, I got about 5 hours.

Yeah...I guess its just luck whether you get a bad one or not. Apparently Lenovo is still selling the ones with the WIFI problem, which is a head-scratcher.

ndm2p8 02-16-2013 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rjohmit (Post 57619966)
Yeah...I guess its just luck whether you get a bad one or not. Apparently Lenovo is still selling the ones with the WIFI problem, which is a head-scratcher.

Yeah - pretty stupid on their part.

Based on my research, and I have done quite a bit because I tried to convince myself to keep this laptop, it seems like there is a design flaw with the placement of the wifi card. Even after the units were repaired and the MAJOR wifi issue was fixed (signal dropping, only able to use internet within 10 feet or a router, < 1 mg dl speeds) their "fix" just makes it slightly better.

I am pretty sure that my unit IS "fixed," as the internet is certainly usable and signal doesn't drop, but the speeds are inexplicably much, much slower, even when the wifi connection is showing full strength. So weird.

Amazon wouldn't be a bad idea since their return policy is so good...but for me, this laptop has been nothing but a headache.

Was looking at the Amazon reviews and saw this from a really long, positive review "But since the computer boots in about twelve seconds and is pretty fast in all respects, I don't see why you'd bother."

No clue what this dude is talking about. My Lenovo takes ~2 minutes to boot. When I had Windows 8 installed it took ~3. It was another reason I am returning. I figured the SSD would help to speed things up but time to boot is ridiculous. Downloaded Soluto to see what was up and nothing really came of that. And that same reviewer says it is capable of playing some high end games...again...this is verrrrrry far from a gaming laptop. The 610M is a pretty weak card. It is a bit better than the integrated, but not by much.

ndm2p8 02-16-2013 07:11 AM

And FYI - I am using the U410 right now (my Dell comes Tuesday) and my wireless connection has dropped twice while trying to comment on this thread.

Buddyjesus 02-16-2013 09:32 AM

I think I will go with the 510 from Staples for $100 cheaper.

http://www.staples.com/Lenovo-Ide...ze=certona

rjohmit 02-16-2013 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buddyjesus (Post 57622556)
I think I will go with the 510 from Staples for $100 cheaper.

http://www.staples.com/Lenovo-Ide...ze=certona

Pretty crappy keyboard/trackpad apparently...I guess that's a bit subjective but, here's the review. They gave the U510 an 80...the U410 an 85.

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Revi...007.0.html

AmericanCarioca 02-18-2013 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buddyjesus (Post 57622556)
I think I will go with the 510 from Staples for $100 cheaper.

http://www.staples.com/Lenovo-Ide...ze=certona

FWIW, Dell is selling their 14z, with identical specs, for $456. See the President's Day coupons.


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