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02-27-2013 07:13 PM |
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Originally Posted by brbubba (Post 57836708)
True true, but you'd likely see the worst of it isolated to India with an occasional case popping up here.
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I can't disagree more. Look at Africa. It's the perfect storm there. TB and HIV. " The emergence of MDR and its even more dangerous cousin, XDR (extremely drug-resistant TB), have pushed tuberculosis cure rates in the country from a high of 73 percent in 2008 down to 53 percent in 2010." And the cure rates of TB will continue to decrease as more HIV patients contract drug resistant (or totally drug resistant) TB. Here's the article. http://www.usnews.com/news/articl...uth-africa Doctors Struggling to Fight "Totally Drug-Resistant" TB in South Africa.
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Originally Posted by brbubba (Post 57844586)
Except I don't think you would be cured. Also how do you test for it? The current test most US doctors use is the PPD test which gives false positives for anyone who got the vaccine, mostly foreign born people. The QFT test is better, but most doctors are either too stupid or ignorant to use it. That being said, both tests require time to either process or wait for results, way more time than someone could reasonably be held in customs. Also I think the ACLU and everyone else out there would have a hard time allowing them to draw blood at customs.
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It will have to get bad first. When you have enough people contract TB, then you will see proper testing and eventually quarantine. I think with better funding the CDC could come up with a quicker way to test for TB. You could have chest X-rays and upgrade the sputum smear test. At least you could have the results in a few hours, instead of 24 hours. The blood test is the best but you have to test the blood quickly, longer wait time for results, and can be more expensive. Most people might agree to an x-ray and a sputum test vs. a blood test. You could screen individuals at the border. Those individuals from countries with high TB rates could be assessed by a nurse. If TB symptoms are suspected, the person would be tested using x-rays and sputum smear. Then take blood if needed.
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Originally Posted by JackHandey (Post 57852836)
I believe that US citizens should be quarantined pending a cure, and non citizens denied access until they find a cure.
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I think that is fair. If you have an untreatable form of TB, should be allowed to walk around just because you are a US citizen. The risk to the rest of society is too great. If you have untreatable TB and not a citizen of the US, you should be returned to your country of origin.
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Originally Posted by jonsmith74 (Post 57854104)
Population control? Wow...
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Agreed. It seems a bit harsh. TB is a communicable and sometimes deadly disease that has one form (XDR-TB) that can't be treated (almost totally resistant to antibotics). We don't need to see this as a form of population control but as a threat we need to address. India is making a bad situation worse and killing its own people. They are also helping mutate and make the disease more deadly by misusing the antibotics that treat it.
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Originally Posted by JackHandey (Post 57858750)
And what would you offer as an alternative? Alter their disposition, or allow them to infect everyone around them?
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The people most at risk are the families of the person with untreatable TB. Prolonged exposure (especially to those with lower immunities, like children and the elderly) puts them at risk. Unfortunately TB is transmitted through the air. You can't stop breathing and most people don't want to wear a mask 24/7. The best solution would be to isolate and treat those with untreatable or drug resistant TB as best you can. If the TB is under control (the person is no longer contagious) or cured, they should be allowed to return back to society.
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