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Discombobulated 02-18-2013 12:29 AM

120GB Kingston Digital SSDNow V300 2.5" SATA III Internal Solid State Drive SSD (SV300S37A/120G) $79.99 + Free Shipping
 
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wikipost 02-18-2013 12:29 AM

This post can and should be edited by users like you :)
 
7mm version is $165 at B&H [bhphotovideo.com] No tax for you Cali people

HalfAmazingOne 02-18-2013 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Discombobulated (Post 57652860)
Newegg

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Sustained Sequential Read: Up to 500 MB/s (SATA 6Gb/s)

Sustained Sequential Write: Up to 260 MB/s (SATA 6Gb/s)

How important is the write speed?

jinxeddeep 02-18-2013 01:04 AM

benchmark charts suggest that the kingston is a mid-range performer...i guess i'll hold out for a 120gb OCZ or samsung...or even the HyperX

91770 02-18-2013 01:51 AM

Dude seriously are you going to notice the different? The sequential read and write aren't important compare to random read and write which all drives are about the same thing

91770 02-18-2013 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by jinxeddeep (Post 57653024)
benchmark charts suggest that the kingston is a mid-range performer...i guess i'll hold out for a 120gb OCZ or samsung...or even the HyperX


I would suggest you to buy this cause the price is good and the random read and write is more important then seq read and write. You won't notice much different on the seq cause it isn't real life testing. That big number is all about marketing. If you are comparing this to Samsung TLC, then it is a huge different. Samsung 840 is TLC which is a lower grade NAND compare to MLc NAND.

Binar 02-18-2013 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jinxeddeep (Post 57653024)
benchmark charts suggest that the kingston is a mid-range performer...i guess i'll hold out for a 120gb OCZ or samsung...or even the HyperX

How can you compare OCZ with Samsung ?

hmmwv 02-18-2013 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Binar (Post 57653218)
How can you compare OCZ with Samsung ?

I would wait for a good price on an OCZ Vector.

91770 02-18-2013 02:08 AM

I never like oCz controller, consider they aren't using LSI anymore. But everything is based on price. Cause in the end, they are all the same thing, just NAND and controller.

Slomo4shO 02-18-2013 02:34 AM

Crucial M4 CT256M4SSD2 2.5" 256GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) $160 + FS
 
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Pro...rentOnly=1

Use code "EMCYTZT2956" at checkout

jinxeddeep 02-18-2013 02:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 91770 (Post 57653212)
I would suggest you to buy this cause the price is good and the random read and write is more important then seq read and write. You won't notice much different on the seq cause it isn't real life testing. That big number is all about marketing. If you are comparing this to Samsung TLC, then it is a huge different. Samsung 840 is TLC which is a lower grade NAND compare to MLc NAND.

hmm...thanks for the info...i have to admit that i don't really know much about SSDs and hence went by the different read write charts on anandtech...the samsung was consistently on top and this one was not on the top 10 lists of any of them and hence my above statement...

there was some serious discussion going on in another thread about TLC vs MLC...correct me if i am wrong but after carefully reading through that and an article on anandtech i got the impression that for an average user (read/write less than 10 gb/day), it won't matter

Quote:

Originally Posted by Binar (Post 57653218)
How can you compare OCZ with Samsung ?

lol...i was only referring to one particular model..the vectors, which i thought were comparable to the samsungs...could have been wrong...

slammdunkk 02-18-2013 04:08 AM

Crucial M4 CT256M4SSD2 2.5" 256GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) $160 Free Shipping @ Newegg
 
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Crucial M4 CT256M4SSD2 2.5" 256GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
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igividen 02-18-2013 04:28 AM

repost
http://slickdeals.net/f/5862566-Crucial-M4-CT256M4SSD2-2-5-256GB-SATA-III-MLC-Internal-Solid-State-Drive-SSD-160-FS

blazin 02-18-2013 04:35 AM

How is this drive compared to the Samsung 256GB 840 Pro?

I was looking at the consumer posted benchmark screenshots on Amazon for the Crucial M4, and they are absolutely abysmal compared to the Samsung Pro.

If those benchmarks are accurate, I'd rather wait for an 840 Pro deal to come along.

f50fan 02-18-2013 04:43 AM

Yep been waiting on an 840 pro deal but looks like theyre quite rare compared to m4 deals.

waveofdestiny 02-18-2013 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by blazin (Post 57653926)
How is this drive compared to the Samsung 256GB 840 Pro?

I was looking at the consumer posted benchmark screenshots on Amazon for the Crucial M4, and they are absolutely abysmal compared to the Samsung Pro.

If those benchmarks are accurate, I'd rather wait for an 840 Pro deal to come along.

For the average user, you will not be able to see a difference between the M4 of 840 Pro. Unless you have a particular application or task in mind for the Pro, get the M4 (or the 840 non-pro) and be happy :)

blazin 02-18-2013 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by waveofdestiny (Post 57654016)
get the M4 (or the 840 non-pro) and be happy :)

Oh, if only I could ever be happy :lol:

On Amazon, the Crucial M4 has well over 1000 reviews, and the Samsung Pro only has a little over 100 reviews. So I'd say Crucial is selling 50x the drives compared to what Samsung is selling.

You would think Samsung would come to the realization that by competitively pricing their drives, they'd sell thousands more. I frigging hate when companies sell a slightly better product and gorge their prices.

RaleighGuy 02-18-2013 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by blazin (Post 57654156)
Oh, if only I could ever be happy :lol:

On Amazon, the Crucial M4 has well over 1000 reviews, and the Samsung Pro only has a little over 100 reviews. So I'd say Crucial is selling 50x the drives compared to what Samsung is selling.

You would think Samsung would come to the realization that by competitively pricing their drives, they'd sell thousands more. I frigging hate when companies sell a slightly better product and gorge their prices.

hence they don't sell so many, it's capitalism. It's their loss.

CoBrA2168 02-18-2013 05:45 AM

Looks like the Crucial M4 deal got mistakenly merged with this Kingston deal..

Also, for those looking for the 7mm version of the M4, Adorama still has it for $168. See this post:
http://slickdeals.net/f/5861480-Crucial-M4-256GB-Internal-Solid-State-Drive-SSD-7mm-168-FS

solarisV 02-18-2013 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by blazin (Post 57654156)
Oh, if only I could ever be happy :lol:

On Amazon, the Crucial M4 has well over 1000 reviews, and the Samsung Pro only has a little over 100 reviews. So I'd say Crucial is selling 50x the drives compared to what Samsung is selling.

You would think Samsung would come to the realization that by competitively pricing their drives, they'd sell thousands more. I frigging hate when companies sell a slightly better product and gorge their prices.

It has over 1000 reviews because its been out way way way wayyyyyy longer then the 840 has been out (less then a year I believe). Your looking to compare the 830 series if you wanna compare the # of Samsung reviews to the Crucial m4.

tmoney468 02-18-2013 06:01 AM

Anyone having trouble with the M4 coupon code now? Says its not a valid code anymore

CoBrA2168 02-18-2013 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by tmoney468 (Post 57654690)
Anyone having trouble with the M4 coupon code now? Says its not a valid code anymore

No problems here - just added it to my cart. Maybe double check for spaces (especially if you copied/pasted).

poetuan 02-18-2013 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by CoBrA2168 (Post 57654492)
Looks like the Crucial M4 deal got mistakenly merged with this Kingston deal..

Also, for those looking for the 7mm version of the M4, Adorama still has it for $168. See this post:
http://slickdeals.net/f/5861480-Crucial-M4-256GB-Internal-Solid-State-Drive-SSD-7mm-168-FS

It's a tad cheaper at B&H. $165

B&H [bhphotovideo.com]

CoBrA2168 02-18-2013 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by poetuan (Post 57654920)
It's a tad cheaper at B&H. $165

B&H [bhphotovideo.com]

Nice find! Not enough for me to cancel my order from Adorama that I made yesterday though :P

fallenlordz 02-18-2013 06:46 AM

In for 1 - 120GB Kingston Digital SSDNow V300

Looking for the cheapest 120gb ssd - with reliability for a older IBM laptop. Speeds dont really matter since I can only get sata II speeds. So this will do fine :)

NORDO 02-18-2013 07:03 AM

Certainly not a bad deal.

However, a reminder for those of us close to a MicroCenter...

They're running a combo special through 3/3 (if not longer). Purchase a Samsung 840 SSD with any CPU, Motherboard, or PC and get $20 off on top of the sale price.

So the key comparison to this deal is the 120GB Samsung 840 ends up pricing out at $78.99 + tax.

If you're already planning a build, it's a great deal. I picked one up to go along with a CPU + Motherboard (and also got that $50 combo discount!) a couple weeks ago.

outofstock 02-18-2013 07:40 AM

Any chance on Amazon matching that Kingston price when its a coupon code involved?

tadr 02-18-2013 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NORDO (Post 57655808)
Certainly not a bad deal.

However, a reminder for those of us close to a MicroCenter...

They're running a combo special through 3/3 (if not longer). Purchase a Samsung 840 SSD with any CPU, Motherboard, or PC and get $20 off on top of the sale price.

So the key comparison to this deal is the 120GB Samsung 840 ends up pricing out at $78.99 + tax.

If you're already planning a build, it's a great deal. I picked one up to go along with a CPU + Motherboard (and also got that $50 combo discount!) a couple weeks ago.

The Kingston is available at MicroCenter for the same price as Newegg. Of course you pay tax... but at least you can go and pick it up today (if you have a MicroCenter nearby)

Link: http://microcenter.com/product/40...tand_Alone

CoBrA2168 02-18-2013 07:44 AM

FYI - Amazon matched Newegg on the Crucial M4 256GB (9.5mm) @ $159.99:

http://www.amazon.com/Crucial-256...crucial+m4

They also have the 7mm version for $10 more (@ $169.99):
http://www.amazon.com/Crucial-256...6M4SSD1%60

tmoney468 02-18-2013 08:02 AM

Got one from Newegg and one from Amazon, great!

geniv 02-18-2013 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blazin (Post 57654156)
Oh, if only I could ever be happy :lol:

On Amazon, the Crucial M4 has well over 1000 reviews, and the Samsung Pro only has a little over 100 reviews. So I'd say Crucial is selling 50x the drives compared to what Samsung is selling.

You would think Samsung would come to the realization that by competitively pricing their drives, they'd sell thousands more. I frigging hate when companies sell a slightly better product and gorge their prices.

LamboGhini and Honda.. .

Honda have alot more reivew than the Lambo. does that make it a better car because it have more review?

you have to look at the product/target market/price as a whole

tm_13055 02-18-2013 08:47 AM

OOS at 10:45am CST

Teluvian 02-18-2013 09:58 AM

The Crucial M4 is still in stock, though it can be had for $10 cheaper from eBay today:

http://slickdeals.net/f/5862916-256GB-Crucial-M4-2-5-SATA-III-MLC-Internal-Solid-State-Drive-SSD-CT256M4SSD2-150-Free-Shipping-Ebay-Daily-Deal

supersoul 02-18-2013 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waveofdestiny (Post 57654016)
For the average user, you will not be able to see a difference between the M4 of 840 Pro. Unless you have a particular application or task in mind for the Pro, get the M4 (or the 840 non-pro) and be happy :)

For average user, I noticed the boot time. I am just an average user. The main reason I purchased SSD is because I hate the booting time of the Window. After installing samsung, the booting time is very quick, but with M4 I have to wait a few more seconds. But I see the difference. It is same window with same applications. Samsung SSD is faster than Crucial M4 SSD.

tennisplayer888 02-18-2013 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by supersoul (Post 57660240)
For average user, I noticed the boot time. I am just an average user. The main reason I purchased SSD is because I hate the booting time of the Window. After installing samsung, the booting time is very quick, but with M4 I have to wait a few more seconds. But I see the difference. It is same window with same applications. Samsung SSD is faster than Crucial M4 SSD.

How quick exactly? Like with an SSD is it instant? Or do you have to wait a little while like an HD as well?

supersoul 02-18-2013 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by tennisplayer888 (Post 57660266)
How quick exactly? Like with an SSD is it instant? Or do you have to wait a little while like an HD as well?

With samsung, it is like an instant. I see "wow". I showed it to my friend. He said "wow it is faster than apple." But Crucial M4 is not instant, but faster than HDD. So, I see the difference. Window 8 is installed in both machines

tennisplayer888 02-18-2013 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by supersoul (Post 57660310)
With samsung, it is like an instant. I see "wow". I showed it to my friend. He said "wow it is faster than apple." But Crucial M4 is not instant.So, I see the difference. Window 8 is installed in both machines

That is good to know, I am still trying to decide which laptop I want to install this in. I got one of the Kingston ones for $70 or so from Staples.

NORDO 02-18-2013 10:30 AM

My only data point on boot time...

On my new desktop, with an Intel 330, it takes approx. 15-20 seconds from power button to seeing the Windows desktop (ready to go) - and that's with the BIOS splash screen and RAID information page each popping up for a second or two.

roll_right 02-18-2013 10:31 AM

Newegg appears out of stock on the 120GB Kingston, TD still has it though same price and FS:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applic...u=K24-0301

davejfr0 02-18-2013 10:35 AM

Posted these questions on another thread, but...

Can one partition this SSD for dual-boot service(I was thinking half and half) without shortening the life span of the drive? (XP and Windows 7)

What kind of solutions are people using to protect against SSD failure? I'm scared of losing everything…the OS, downloaded games, etc… Are people RAID1-ing their SSD with a HDD? Does this impact gaming or other performance, especially if the drive one is RAID1ing to is of a larger size?

NORDO 02-18-2013 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by davejfr0 (Post 57660684)
What kind of solutions are people using to protect against SSD failure? I'm scared of losing everything…

Personally, I have all my data on regular HDDs, which are in a RAID10 array.

The only things on my SSD are the OS and apps, which I'm not really worried about losing. Even if the SSD crashed, they could all be easily re-installed.

travfar 02-18-2013 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by davejfr0 (Post 57660684)
What kind of solutions are people using to protect against SSD failure?

Shouldn't you be more concerned about using a HDD then? SSDs are more reliable than HDDs now. Almost an order of magnitude more reliable.

http://www.intel.com/content/www/...brief.html

davejfr0 02-18-2013 11:19 AM

Produced by a company trying to market SSDs…is there other proof from several third-party firms in order to limit the amount of bias introduced in articles?

Probedude 02-18-2013 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NORDO (Post 57660550)
My only data point on boot time...

On my new desktop, with an Intel 330, it takes approx. 15-20 seconds from power button to seeing the Windows desktop (ready to go) - and that's with the BIOS splash screen and RAID information page each popping up for a second or two.

Do you have freeze up problems with your Intel 330?

I do - updated the intel chipset drivers, intel raid drivers, did the registry tweaks - still freezes in Chrome often.

Thinking of getting the m4 Crucial to replace my intel 330.

Probedude 02-18-2013 12:06 PM

Done. Just bought the Crucial M4 256 GB from the Ebay deal.
Goodbye Intel.

superstition 02-18-2013 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jinxeddeep (Post 57653392)
there was some serious discussion going on in another thread about TLC vs MLC...correct me if i am wrong but after carefully reading through that and an article on anandtech i got the impression that for an average user (read/write less than 10 gb/day), it won't matter

Anandtech tends to write flawed articles.

Performance comparison graphs (I think the model reviewed is the 250 GB one).
http://www.hardocp.com/images/art...DY_8_5.png
http://www.hardocp.com/images/art...DY_8_6.png

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Originally Posted by hardocp
we can also note the very low write speeds for the TLC-equipped Samsung 840.

Quote:

Originally Posted by hardocp
The voltages we recorded with the Samsung 840 are higher than the Samsung 840 Pro across the board, and also exhibit one of the highest idle voltages that we have witnessed. This is probably due to some hefty background processes to handle the TLC NAND. The only area where the Samsung 840 performed admirably was in the Startup voltage, which came in at a very low 1.13W.

The random write voltage was unsurprisingly very high, and the sequential write voltage requirement is also on the high end. With this being a relatively new SSD, with its TLC destined to begin producing more errors over the life of the drive, we would expect these power consumption figures to grow over the life of the SSD. Even with these relatively 'fresh' readings we feel that this would not be the best SSD for mobile applications.

Quote:

Originally Posted by hardocp
The low write speed offered with the Samsung 840 Series is going to be a concern for some users. It is especially important that users with moderate to heavy write workloads carefully weigh other options before making the jump to a TLC SSD. The low write speed will be an immediate problem in large file transfer situations, and endurance will be a long-term problem. It is also important to note that the 120GB model of this SSD only has a sequential write speed of 130MB/s and random read IOPS of 32,000, significantly lower than the lackluster write performance that we observed today in our testing.

Including a thermal pad for the controller would help to keep the device cool. We would like to see thermal pads with this SSD when we take the higher power consumption figures from TLC NAND into consideration.

Our steady state testing essentially places a workload upon the SSD until it is forced to begin running the internal management routines and garbage collection during actual usage. This is especially important with this type of NAND as it is definitely going to experience far more data errors than MLC over time. This will create increasing overhead for the MDX controller over the lifetime of the device. The read speed degradation that we observed is worrisome due to the fact that the increasing error rates can trigger these drive management routines, in effect creating read speed degradation in lower usage scenarios than with MLC NAND.

The extreme loss of write performance in steady state in our Iometer testing can also be a sign of long term performance issues in steady state as the NAND ages.


superstition 02-18-2013 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NORDO (Post 57655808)
So the key comparison to this deal is the 120GB Samsung 840 ends up pricing out at $78.99 + tax.

Quote:

Originally Posted by hardocp
The low write speed offered with the Samsung 840 Series is going to be a concern for some users. It is especially important that users with moderate to heavy write workloads carefully weigh other options before making the jump to a TLC SSD. The low write speed will be an immediate problem in large file transfer situations, and endurance will be a long-term problem. It is also important to note that the 120GB model of this SSD only has a sequential write speed of 130MB/s and random read IOPS of 32,000, significantly lower than the lackluster write performance that we observed today in our testing.

The 120 GB drive isn't even worth $79.00 and tax.

NORDO 02-18-2013 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Probedude (Post 57662932)
Do you have freeze up problems with your Intel 330?

I do - updated the intel chipset drivers, intel raid drivers, did the registry tweaks - still freezes in Chrome often.

Thinking of getting the m4 Crucial to replace my intel 330.

Nope, no issues. Hope you can figure it out!

MSI Z77A-GD65 + i7-3770k, G.SKILL 32GB DDR3-1600.

jinxeddeep 02-18-2013 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by superstition (Post 57665266)
Anandtech tends to write flawed articles.

Performance comparison graphs (I think the model reviewed is the 250 GB one).
http://www.hardocp.com/images/art...DY_8_5.png
http://www.hardocp.com/images/art...DY_8_6.png

thank you superstiton...i was just goinG to cancel my kingston order for 80 and instead get the 840 since I got the email with 20% coupon (apparently, only a few have received it)...i just opened my laptop and instinctively hit F5 on this page...clicked on the reply notification and saw your post and decided to stick with the kingston...

waveofdestiny 02-18-2013 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by supersoul (Post 57660240)
For average user, I noticed the boot time. I am just an average user. The main reason I purchased SSD is because I hate the booting time of the Window. After installing samsung, the booting time is very quick, but with M4 I have to wait a few more seconds. But I see the difference. It is same window with same applications. Samsung SSD is faster than Crucial M4 SSD.

The boot times are virtually identical of the M4 and Samsung 840 Pro. After the bios screen (which the SSD speed doesn't affect), the M4 takes around 8 seconds to boot. The 840 Pro takes almost the same.

Here are a couple of videos illustrating this:

Crucial M4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aACDtbh17Yc
840 Pro: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khSJbe4grKg

Both drives boot in around 8 seconds from Windows first logo to Desktop.

As an average user, you would not notice any difference on boot times as there virtually isn't one.

supersoul 02-18-2013 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waveofdestiny (Post 57666808)
The boot times are virtually identical of the M4 and Samsung 840 Pro. After the bios screen (which the SSD speed doesn't affect), the M4 takes around 8 seconds to boot. The 840 Pro takes almost the same.

Here are a couple of videos illustrating this:

Crucial M4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aACDtbh17Yc
840 Pro: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khSJbe4grKg

Both drives boot in around 8 seconds from Windows first logo to Desktop.

As an average user, you would not notice any difference on boot times as there virtually isn't one.

I have both drives. They are 128GB. I put both drives in Thinkpad x230. both drives are installed Window 8. I see the difference. I don't know why ? but, do you know why ? do you have both drives and test it ? I don't know about reliability since both drives have not been broken yet.

waveofdestiny 02-18-2013 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by supersoul (Post 57667134)
I have both drives. They are 128GB. I put both drives in Thinkpad x230. both drives are installed Window 8. I see the difference. I don't know why ? but, do you know why ? do you have both drives and test it ? I don't know about reliability since both drives have not been broken yet.

Yes, I have used both drives the 840 pro and the M4 (my old setup was M4's raided, current setup is two 830's raided). It may be a Windows 8 issue as I've only used Windows 7 with SSD drives and most the benchmarks/videos I've seen are Windows 7.

Reliability I wouldn't worry about the 840 pro but the M4 has a proven history of reliability (it's a very solid drive).

RamakataO 02-18-2013 03:18 PM

Boot time can be compared on verbatim copies only. Any minor software difference or even physical file ordering change can issue noticeable boot time change


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