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dj-3lusion 02-21-2013 04:09 AM

OBDII OBD2 V1.5 Bluetooth Auto Diagnostic Interface Scanner (ELM327) $12 + Free Shipping
 
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V1.5 ELM327 OBDII OBD2 Bluetooth Car Diagnostic Interface Scanner [newegg.com]

$12

this is the cheapest I found so far.

Discombobulated 02-21-2013 04:09 AM

OBDII OBD2 V1.5 Bluetooth Auto Diagnostic Interface Scanner (ELM327) $12 + Free Shipping
 
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eBestDeal4u via Newegg has OBDII OBD2 V1.5 Bluetooth Auto Diagnostic Interface Scanner (ELM327) on sale for $11.99. Shipping is free. Thanks dj-3lusion

Price Research: Our research indicates that OBDII OBD2 V1.5 Bluetooth Auto Diagnostic Interface Scanner (ELM327) is $8 lower (40% savings) than the next best available price from a reputable merchant with prices ranging from $20 to $25. - Discombobulated

wikipost 02-21-2013 04:09 AM

This post can and should be edited by users like you :)
 
OOS

with the suggestions of others I thought id post a few apps out there you can utilize this device.

Torque Pro (paid) [google.com] / Lite (free) [google.com]

OBDoctor (Free) [google.com]

OBD Elm 327 (Free) [google.com]

Engine Link for iOS (you need jailbreak) https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/e...57194?mt=8

You cannot use these cheap adapters with iOS unless you jailbreak. Apple's walled garden means you need to pay them for an authentication chip to connect via bluetooth to an idevice. $12 for the whole device is not enough to pay this tax.

Impact-Vector 02-21-2013 04:26 AM

Only downside is its not android/ipad/iphone software included

inspyral 02-21-2013 04:35 AM

If you have an Android device, this app [google.com] is free and works well with the adapter for reading/clearing engine codes and monitoring sensor info. Also, these adapters are usually on eBay/Amazon for around $14, so this is a pretty good price.

Richardsonke 02-21-2013 06:24 AM

Not trying to TC, but I found a smaller, cheaper one on dinodirect. I have no idea if it's as good as the one OP linked to, though.

EDIT: url was blocked. Don't want to get in trouble with the mods, but if you were looking for it, it's on DinoDirect's "groupbuy" site.

LordAthens 02-21-2013 07:30 AM

Good price, I don't think I've paid less than $15 for any of mine. In for another. Thanks OP!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Impact-Vector (Post 57727404)
Only downside is its not android/ipad/iphone software included

Seriously, spend the $5 on Torque Pro and call it a $17 package. Even Torque Lite will still scan codes if that's all you use it for. You won't find a more capable system for less than $50, if not $100. The ELM adapter plus Torque Pro is THE BEST value in anything if you own a car.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Richardsonke (Post 57729046)
Not trying to TC, but I found a smaller, cheaper one on dinodirect. I have no idea if it's as good as the one OP linked to, though.

EDIT: url was blocked. Don't want to get in trouble with the mods, but if you were looking for it, it's on DinoDirect's "groupbuy" site.

Spend the extra $2 or $5 and get it from Newegg or Amazon. These adapters are notoriously cheap and have a high failure / DOA rate. I've been lucky, I'm 4 for 4 on good adapters, but others aren't so lucky. I would highly recommend going with someone that has great customer service / easy exchanges like Newegg or Amazon.

likeaw 02-21-2013 07:36 AM

I just want to add Torque Pro is great. My 2 other OBD readers (usb and serial) are now gathering dust and I spent much more on them. In for a spare at this price.

Quote:

Originally Posted by LordAthens (Post 57730676)
Good price, I don't think I've paid less than $15 for any of mine. In for another. Thanks OP!



Seriously, spend the $5 on Torque Pro and call it a $17 package. Even Torque Lite will still scan codes if that's all you use it for. You won't find a more capable system for less than $50, if not $100. The ELM adapter plus Torque Pro is THE BEST value in anything if you own a car.




Spend the extra $2 or $5 and get it from Newegg or Amazon. These adapters are notoriously cheap and have a high failure / DOA rate. I've been lucky, I'm 4 for 4 on good adapters, but others aren't so lucky. I would highly recommend going with someone that has great customer service / easy exchanges like Newegg or Amazon.


telobeck 02-21-2013 07:49 AM

I would buy the MINI version. This one is about as tall as a pack of smokes. Ebay has the Mini ones that are about as tall as a quarter. If you are going to leave it installed under your dash and drive around, you will quickly see size does matter.

DVDBob 02-21-2013 07:53 AM

Any recommendations for an iOS app? Torque Pro looks to be Android only.

dj-3lusion 02-21-2013 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LordAthens (Post 57730676)
Good price, I don't think I've paid less than $15 for any of mine. In for another. Thanks OP!



Seriously, spend the $5 on Torque Pro and call it a $17 package. Even Torque Lite will still scan codes if that's all you use it for. You won't find a more capable system for less than $50, if not $100. The ELM adapter plus Torque Pro is THE BEST value in anything if you own a car.




Spend the extra $2 or $5 and get it from Newegg or Amazon. These adapters are notoriously cheap and have a high failure / DOA rate. I've been lucky, I'm 4 for 4 on good adapters, but others aren't so lucky. I would highly recommend going with someone that has great customer service / easy exchanges like Newegg or Amazon.

yeah i just downloaded torque pro. thank you for the recommendation.

fyu 02-21-2013 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by telobeck (Post 57731134)
I would buy the MINI version. This one is about as tall as a pack of smokes. Ebay has the Mini ones that are about as tall as a quarter. If you are going to leave it installed under your dash and drive around, you will quickly see size does matter.

are there any functionality differences? other than the size, obviously.

LordAthens 02-21-2013 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fyu (Post 57731700)
are there any functionality differences? other than the size, obviously.

From my initial research last year, the mini versions had an even higher failure / DOA rate (based on forum reviews, Amazon, etc) and I had also read that it was slower (less PIDs per second, thus slower readings on gauges, etc. This would not come into play if you are using it strictly for a code reader).

LordAthens 02-21-2013 08:23 AM

FWIW, the "long" version that the OP linked to isn't even visible on our Vibe. Slightly visible but certainly not in the way on the Duramax or Buick. Sticks out from the bottom of the dash on my 99 Wrangler by an inch or so. On the Wrangler, I clipped it with my left foot getting in a few times during the first ~2 weeks. It hasn't been an issue since I trained myself not to.

cgigate 02-21-2013 08:28 AM

i purchased this one before.
when plugged to my car, it burned my car fuse immediately.
tried another , burned another fuse as well

fyu 02-21-2013 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LordAthens (Post 57731944)
From my initial research last year, the mini versions had an even higher failure / DOA rate (based on forum reviews, Amazon, etc) and I had also read that it was slower (less PIDs per second, thus slower readings on gauges, etc. This would not come into play if you are using it strictly for a code reader).

interesting.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cgigate (Post 57732170)
i purchased this one before.
when plug to the car, it burnt my car fuse immediately.
tried another , burnt another fuse as well

well that sucks.

I guess I'll just pay more for a highly reviewed one from Amazon.

mrstangblb 02-21-2013 08:38 AM

I've had great results with this BAFX reader from Amazon [amazon.com]. Yes, it's more expensive, but the American company that sells them is great and corresponds well, the reader works really well with Torque Free and Torque Pro, and I've done a lot of good work on my car and on others using either my phone or my tablets.

lpranal 02-21-2013 08:38 AM

I Just got done comparing / shopping for one of these, looking at a lot of different versions based off the ELM 327 chip. Some thoughts based off my research:

The blue / orange ones (Like in this deal) work, but it sounds like there's quality control issues with this version and a seemingly high DOA rate. Even when they work, many are slow, work intermittently and are difficult to connect.

If you want to use one of the "generic" adapters with iOS, you'll need to have your device jailbroken and get the roqyBT4 and roqyOBD packages from cydia. after that you can use most of the standard OBD2 apps in the app store

here's the model I ultimately went with, based off reviews and price / performance: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/...UTF8&psc=1
It's worked for me right away after some setup and changing a few settings in dashcommand. It's fast and reliable enough to use all the features including gas mileage monitoring, performance (HP / torque) estimators, diagnostic codes etc. Definitely worth the extra $13 IMO.

LordAthens 02-21-2013 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fyu (Post 57731700)
are there any functionality differences? other than the size, obviously.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrstangblb (Post 57732470)
I've had great results with this BAFX reader from Amazon [amazon.com]. Yes, it's more expensive, but the American company that sells them is great and corresponds well, the reader works really well with Torque Free and Torque Pro, and I've done a lot of good work on my car and on others using either my phone or my tablets.

The BAFX version was actually the first one I ever purchased. I did a ton of research before I bought one and that came across as the lowest failure rate with the best support.

The next 3 I purchased were the orange variety, mainly because I had the time to ship it back if it was defective and Amazon has an easy exchange / return process.

RomanG 02-21-2013 09:03 AM

ELM 327 works well for me. The bluetooth is a great feature and much better than having a cable connected to the device. 100% recommend Torque Pro as well. A great app, and worth the small $5.00 price. I receive regular updates to the app constantly adding new features. I am still learning things about it after having it for a year.

poorgrad 02-21-2013 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DVDBob (Post 57731230)
Any recommendations for an iOS app? Torque Pro looks to be Android only.

You cannot (easily) use these cheap adapters with iOS. Apple's walled garden means you need to pay them for an authentication chip to connect via bluetooth to an idevice. $12 for the whole device is not enough to pay this tax.

I have one that looks just like this that I use with my Nexus 7 and VW Passat. No issues reading codes and resetting with Torque lite.

bhazard 02-21-2013 09:14 AM

Been using one of these for years with Torque Pro. TREMENDOUS value, especially if you throw a fault code and would end up spending way more at your mechanic to tell you what this will.

Oh, and the realtime monitoring and logging is just as good or better than my accessport, which costs $500+.

dj-3lusion 02-21-2013 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DVDBob (Post 57731230)
Any recommendations for an iOS app? Torque Pro looks to be Android only.

i got an idea. :) :bulb: use your tablet im hoping you have some kind of android tablet.. if you have ios you might be up a creek without a paddle. just been reading and reading to find ios users are screwed! doesnt surprise me though..

Ltak 02-21-2013 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fyu (Post 57732216)
interesting.


well that sucks.

I guess I'll just pay more for a highly reviewed one from Amazon.

That's what I did when I bought the BAFX a couple days ago. Received it yesterday. 543 reviews on Amazon with 23 one star reviews (4.6 average).

The OPs product appears to be the orange and blue labeled version. There are a handful of the orange and blue versions on Amazon. The Soliport one has 427 reviews with 58 one star reviews (4.0 average). The Koolertron has 189 total with 32 one star (4.0 average).

There are a number of reviewers who have had both the BAFX and orange/blue readers and found the BAFX to have higher compatibility and reliability. It's only $10 more and the last thing any troubleshooter wants is doubt in their measurement devices.

Lordgenome 02-21-2013 09:40 AM

Oos :(

XeoNoX 02-21-2013 09:48 AM

i was gunna get the BAFX due to better reviews, but then i noticed it said v1.4 ..... and the other orange one is v1.5....whats the difference between v1.4 and v1.5?

LordAthens 02-21-2013 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XeoNoX (Post 57734574)
i was gunna get the BAFX due to better reviews, but then i noticed it said v1.4 ..... and the other orange one is v1.5....whats the difference between v1.4 and v1.5?

0.1 :lol:

InuFaye 02-21-2013 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrstangblb (Post 57732470)
I've had great results with this BAFX reader from Amazon [amazon.com]. Yes, it's more expensive, but the American company that sells them is great and corresponds well, the reader works really well with Torque Free and Torque Pro, and I've done a lot of good work on my car and on others using either my phone or my tablets.

Just picked one up for my E36.

Thanks.

SkyKing02 02-21-2013 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrstangblb (Post 57732470)
I've had great results with this BAFX reader from Amazon [amazon.com]. Yes, it's more expensive, but the American company that sells them is great and corresponds well, the reader works really well with Torque Free and Torque Pro, and I've done a lot of good work on my car and on others using either my phone or my tablets.

can u reset the check engine light on this? or find the reason for engine light? autozone wasn't helpful at all....

deshwasi 02-21-2013 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrstangblb (Post 57732470)
I've had great results with this BAFX reader from Amazon [amazon.com]. Yes, it's more expensive, but the American company that sells them is great and corresponds well, the reader works really well with Torque Free and Torque Pro, and I've done a lot of good work on my car and on others using either my phone or my tablets.

thanks for linking to that. i clicked only to find out i had purchased it in March. went hunting for it and by god's grace found it within a couple minutes. hopefully will get to try it out soon... or not.

XeoNoX 02-21-2013 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LordAthens (Post 57734708)
0.1 :lol:

i guess the real " LoL" is to the people that bought this so called deal, its a phony, after doing some research there is no GENUINE v1.5, that's why the reviews are so mix with DOA and ones that don't work right. the real ones like the BAFX are the 1.4 or 1.4b. got this info straight from the makers of the Chipset. http://www.elmelectronics.com/obdic.html

LordAthens 02-21-2013 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkyKing02 (Post 57734774)
can u reset the check engine light on this? or find the reason for engine light? autozone wasn't helpful at all....

With an Android phone/tablet and the Torque Lite or Torque Pro app, yes.

SkyKing02 02-21-2013 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LordAthens (Post 57735192)
With an Android phone/tablet and the Torque Lite or Torque Pro app, yes.

No iPhone?

LordAthens 02-21-2013 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XeoNoX (Post 57735092)
i guess the real " LoL" is to the people that bought this so called deal, its a phony, after doing some research there is no GENUINE v1.5, that's why the reviews are so mix with DOA and ones that don't work right. the real ones like the BAFX are the 1.4 or 1.4b. got this info straight from the makers of the Chipset. http://www.elmelectronics.com/obdic.html

It's really up to the manufacture to name it whatever they want, with whatever version they want. It's done for marketing anyhow. The imports want the sales by having the "latest" version even though there is no difference. They could be saying that it's version 1.5 of their device, not necessarily v1.5 of the chipset.

We know the one linked isn't a phony / fake, it's been around for quite some time. We also know that whatever factory they're coming out of in China has terrible QC. Some work, some don't, which is why I recommended buying from Newegg or Amazon since they have an easy exchange policy.

fyu 02-21-2013 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkyKing02 (Post 57734774)
can u reset the check engine light on this? or find the reason for engine light? autozone wasn't helpful at all....

autozone isn't allowed to reset. liability reasons.

LordAthens 02-21-2013 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkyKing02 (Post 57735308)
No iPhone?

I'm not an Apple guy, so things may have changed, but what I remember from other research last year;

It has to be Jailbroken
It has to run some other app to get the adapter to even connect to the phone
The app that is capable of running it was $50

[edit] Some quick research;

Dash Command [apple.com] was the app I was thinking of. Still $50. There may be other apps available for iOS, I'm not sure, I only happened across that one since they have an Android version too (which sucks, IMO). Torque is not available for iOS in any way. I have a die hard apple buddy that bought a Galaxy 7" tablet just for Torque and GPS usage. Apparently Apple doesn't have anything that will compete.

You need a few apps from here [roqy-bluetooth.net], roqyBT and roqyOBD

Phone still needs to be jailbroken.

[/edit]

Kotori 02-21-2013 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lpranal (Post 57732478)
I Just got done comparing / shopping for one of these, looking at a lot of different versions based off the ELM 327 chip. Some thoughts based off my research:

The blue / orange ones (Like in this deal) work, but it sounds like there's quality control issues with this version and a seemingly high DOA rate. Even when they work, many are slow, work intermittently and are difficult to connect.

If you want to use one of the "generic" adapters with iOS, you'll need to have your device jailbroken and get the roqyBT4 and roqyOBD packages from cydia. after that you can use most of the standard OBD2 apps in the app store

here's the model I ultimately went with, based off reviews and price / performance: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/...UTF8&psc=1
It's worked for me right away after some setup and changing a few settings in dashcommand. It's fast and reliable enough to use all the features including gas mileage monitoring, performance (HP / torque) estimators, diagnostic codes etc. Definitely worth the extra $13 IMO.

I thought iphone needs the Wifi version of these. What setting you have to change to make dashcommand worked with Bluetooth ELM327?

Kotori 02-21-2013 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LordAthens (Post 57735488)
I'm not an Apple guy, so things may have changed, but what I remember from other research last year;

It has to be Jailbroken
It has to run some other app to get the adapter to even connect to the phone
The app that is capable of running it was $50

[edit] Some quick research;

Dash Command [apple.com] was the app I was thinking of. Still $50. There may be other apps available for iOS, I'm not sure, I only happened across that one since they have an Android version too (which sucks, IMO). Torque is not available for iOS in any way. I have a die hard apple buddy that bought a Galaxy 7" tablet just for Torque and GPS usage. Apparently Apple doesn't have anything that will compete.

You need a few apps from here [roqy-bluetooth.net], roqyBT and roqyOBD

Phone still needs to be jailbroken.

[/edit]

great, I'm gonna try this since I was gonna buy the Wifi version which is more costly than this bluetooth. Thanks

LordAthens 02-21-2013 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kotori (Post 57735780)
I thought iphone needs the Wifi version of these. What setting you have to change to make dashcommand worked with Bluetooth ELM327?

Do you realize you quoted the answer? I'll do it again, for you, but in bold.

Quote:

Originally Posted by lpranal
If you want to use one of the "generic" adapters with iOS, you'll need to have your device jailbroken and get the roqyBT4 and roqyOBD packages from cydia. after that you can use most of the standard OBD2 apps in the app store


XeoNoX 02-21-2013 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LordAthens (Post 57735352)
It's really up to the manufacture to name it whatever they want, with whatever version they want. It's done for marketing anyhow. The imports want the sales by having the "latest" version even though there is no difference. They could be saying that it's version 1.5 of their device, not necessarily v1.5 of the chipset.

We know the one linked isn't a phony / fake, it's been around for quite some time. We also know that whatever factory they're coming out of in China has terrible QC. Some work, some don't, which is why I recommended buying from Newegg or Amazon since they have an easy exchange policy.


the v1.5 is a fake aka CLONE ...the original ELM327 only goes to v1.4b .. u can find more info here about the fake clones
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELM327
and a whole discussion on the 1.5 being fake clones
http://www.mp3car.com/engine-mana...r-bad.html


if u want legit ones contacts the manufacturer for legit resellers
http://www.elmelectronics.com/obdic.html

LordAthens 02-21-2013 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kotori (Post 57735780)
I thought iphone needs the Wifi version of these. What setting you have to change to make dashcommand worked with Bluetooth ELM327?

Quote:

Originally Posted by XeoNoX (Post 57736114)
the v1.5 is a fake aka CLONE ...the original ELM327 only goes to v1.4b .. u can find more info here about the fake clones
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELM327
and a whole discussion on the 1.5 being fake clones
http://www.mp3car.com/engine-mana...r-bad.html


if u want legit ones contacts the manufacturer for legit resellers
http://www.elmelectronics.com/obdic.html

Again, the manufacture of the device that uses ELM's chipset can call it whatever they want. They ARE NOT saying that it's a v1.5 chipset. The manufacture of the device (not ELM) can call it v76.29 if they wanted to. It doesn't matter.

And a whole discussion? You mean all 13 posts of that? All 13 posts that never once said "I have a 1.5, it doesn't work". Instead it's "Don't buy the 1.5" or "I heard the 1.5 doesn't work", no real proof. In fact;

Quote:

I have one of the "ELM 1.5a" and it functions just as it should. However, it is hit or miss as I have seen bad feedback and DOA units reported several places.
So again, yes, we know the 1.5 blue and orange version either works or it doesn't. As the quote above me said, it's hit or miss. If it works, great, if it doesn't, send it back for an exchange. Which, for the third time now, is why I said to buy it from a reputable dealer like Newegg or Amazon and not DinoDeals or whatever that joint that was talked about above was.

I swear to god SD'ers simply don't read. Or, they do, but don't comprehend.

lpranal 02-21-2013 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Kotori (Post 57735780)
I thought iphone needs the Wifi version of these. What setting you have to change to make dashcommand worked with Bluetooth ELM327?

I've attached the settings needed in dashcommand... roqybt4 settings are specific to the adapter you get. on mine, device type is generic obd token, PIN is 1234, mtk workaround off and automatic pairing on. I'm not actually sure if there are any other apps besides dashcommand that will work.

apyo 02-21-2013 11:06 AM

Anyone know what software can read abs sensors?

XeoNoX 02-21-2013 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LordAthens (Post 57736436)
Again, the manufacture of the device that uses ELM's chipset can call it whatever they want. They ARE NOT saying that it's a v1.5 chipset. The manufacture of the device (not ELM) can call it v76.29 if they wanted to. It doesn't matter.

And a whole discussion? You mean all 13 posts of that? All 13 posts that never once said "I have a 1.5, it doesn't work". Instead it's "Don't buy the 1.5" or "I heard the 1.5 doesn't work", no real proof. In fact;



So again, yes, we know the 1.5 blue and orange version either works or it doesn't. As the quote above me said, it's hit or miss. If it works, great, if it doesn't, send it back for an exchange. Which, for the third time now, is why I said to buy it from a reputable dealer like Newegg or Amazon and not DinoDeals or whatever that joint that was talked about above was.

I swear to god SD'ers simply don't read. Or, they do, but don't comprehend.


i can comprehend just fine my friend, u are the one not comprehending that it is a fake clone. U can call up ELMS327 makers and find out for yourself that there is no v1.5 and that the on posted by the OP is indeed a CLONE (this will solve YOUR CLAIMS and prove it is a CLONE!! Nuff said!!) On the other hand the BAFX one is legit.

Kotori 02-21-2013 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LordAthens (Post 57735870)
Do you realize you quoted the answer? I'll do it again, for you, but in bold.

after reading your post, I understood that roqyBT and roqyOBD is needed to run the bluetooth ELM on iphone, so the first part of my comment wasn't a question; in fact, I was just amazed to know that the bluetooth ELM could work with iPhone. However, you mentioned about changing some settings on dashcommand, so I asked what did you change. That was my question, and thanks to lpranal for answering it. English isn't my first language, but I believe that my reading comprehension is more than sufficient to understand posts/comments on SD. It's nice of you share your experiences , but please do not sound patronizing toward other fellow SDers.

Quote:

Originally Posted by lpranal (Post 57736626)
I've attached the settings needed in dashcommand... roqybt4 settings are specific to the adapter you get. on mine, device type is generic obd token, PIN is 1234, mtk workaround off and automatic pairing on. I'm not actually sure if there are any other apps besides dashcommand that will work.

Thanks dude, this is what I asked, I'm gonna try mine with I get home :)

travfar 02-21-2013 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkyKing02 (Post 57734774)
can u reset the check engine light on this? or find the reason for engine light? autozone wasn't helpful at all....

If all you want to do is reset, just unhook your battery for a bit. But the light will just come back on when it gets another fault. Best to fix the problem.

SkyKing02 02-21-2013 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by travfar (Post 57738398)
If all you want to do is reset, just unhook your battery for a bit. But the light will just come back on when it gets another fault. Best to fix the problem.

i also want to check the reason for my engine light to be on.

inspyral 02-21-2013 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkyKing02 (Post 57738610)
i also want to check the reason for my engine light to be on.

Depending on the make/model of the car, there's sometimes a method you can use to pull codes without a scan tool. For example, most late model Hondas have a 2-pin service connector you can short that will make the check engine light flash somewhat like morse code, and you can count the flashes to determine the code(s) being thrown. I believe some Subarus have a similar function, and on some Nissans you can achieve the same thing with a certain sequence of turning the key to the ON position and tapping on the brake pedal if I recall correctly.

jordanz12 02-21-2013 12:41 PM

What is the main difference between the free Torque and the $5 Torque app?

Also, do you just leave this plugged in to the OBDII port? Or does it drain the battery?

SkyKing02 02-21-2013 12:44 PM

back in stock...awesome!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by inspyral (Post 57738858)
Depending on the make/model of the car, there's sometimes a method you can use to pull codes without a scan tool. For example, most late model Hondas have a 2-pin service connector you can short that will make the check engine light flash somewhat like morse code, and you can count the flashes to determine the code(s) being thrown. I believe some Subarus have a similar function, and on some Nissans you can achieve the same thing with a certain sequence of turning the key to the ON position and tapping on the brake pedal if I recall correctly.

what about lexus?

thanks for the info, i went ahead and ordered one from newegg.

inspyral 02-21-2013 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jordanz12 (Post 57739144)
What is the main difference between the free Torque and the $5 Torque app?

Also, do you just leave this plugged in to the OBDII port? Or does it drain the battery?

I have the free app and it does everything I need. I mainly use it to check/clear codes and monitor sensors. This is how I have my main screen set up on my tablet. [imgur.com] From what I can tell, the paid version of the app offers better developer support and additional features such as logging and horsepower calculation(using your device's accelerometer and the weight of your vehicle). As for leaving the OBD scanner plugged in, it stays powered even when the ignition is off, so it'll keep drawing juice when you aren't driving the car. It's nothing major since I've forgotten and left it plugged in and my car started fine a couple days later, but I would still recommend unplugging it if you aren't using it. I just keep mine in a pocket on the door, and my OBD port is next to the driver side kick panel so it's easy for me to plug it in blind, even while driving(not recommended for obvious reasons) if I need to.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkyKing02 (Post 57739218)
back in stock...awesome!!!


what about lexus?

thanks for the info, i went ahead and ordered one from newegg.

I'm not familiar with the procedure for Lexus(and Toyota), but from what I could find it looks like you'll need a scanner to pull codes on OBD-II cars(usually 96+). I did find a guide on pulling codes on OBD-I cars [lexls.com] in case that applies to you.

dj-3lusion 02-21-2013 01:15 PM

ok i added some apps in the wiki. feel free to contribute. ill add what i also found for the ios which I believe is a dongle like thingy for it..

shadowgerm 02-21-2013 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kotori (Post 57738126)
after reading your post, I understood that roqyBT and roqyOBD is needed to run the bluetooth ELM on iphone, so the first part of my comment wasn't a question; in fact, I was just amazed to know that the bluetooth ELM could work with iPhone. However, you mentioned about changing some settings on dashcommand, so I asked what did you change. That was my question, and thanks to lpranal for answering it. English isn't my first language, but I believe that my reading comprehension is more than sufficient to understand posts/comments on SD. It's nice of you share your experiences , but please do not sound patronizing toward other fellow SDers.


Thanks dude, this is what I asked, I'm gonna try mine with I get home :)

Are there any free OBD apps in the app store for this? Dashcommand is 49.99, yikes better to buy a used android phone

travfar 02-21-2013 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by decolores9 (Post 57740764)
None of the low cost "clones" are legit - and they don't comply with the ELM spec. A lot of the better software tools intentionally will not work with the clones, since the clones are based on stolen technology.

The clones are reversed engineered from a real ELM chip. My clone readers are hit and miss. They all work with my modern cars. None of them work with my dad's mid 90's Ford. My real ELM reader does though.

zhopa 02-21-2013 01:59 PM

"Windows PC, Palm, PDA, Windows Smartphone."

Ahahaha... what is this, 2003?

Slobadon 02-21-2013 01:59 PM

I love this paired with the Torque on Android for my Honda Element. Use it almost daily.

Kotori 02-21-2013 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadowgerm (Post 57740134)
Are there any free OBD apps in the app store for this? Dashcommand is 49.99, yikes better to buy a used android phone

I think so, search for OBD in the appstore

XeoNoX 02-21-2013 02:07 PM

finally two people that know what they are talking about, yes indeed the clones are based off stolen technology as they forgot to encrypt/copy protect the software coding on the original ELM,

LordAthens, i hate to tell u, but I TOLD U SO!!!

advocation 02-21-2013 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by apyo (Post 57736746)
Anyone know what software can read abs sensors?

No it does not. You need a much more expensive reader for ABS.

geocacher99 02-21-2013 02:21 PM

So this is a fake or clone?

Would I be better off buying the torque app on my android phone?

SkyKing02 02-21-2013 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geocacher99 (Post 57741638)
So this is a fake or clone?

Would I be better off buying the torque app on my android phone?

clone...but also fake :D:D:D = knockoff

ersatz 02-21-2013 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by apyo (Post 57736746)
Anyone know what software can read abs sensors?

Probably not. Won't read SRS or TPMS codes either. You won't be able to access any system/computer that has a separate warning light on your dash.

Ethanhunt123 02-21-2013 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkyKing02 (Post 57741686)
clone...but also fake :D:D:D = knockoff

So this wont work with modern cars (2007 and after)? Or is this going to be a paperweight?

SkyKing02 02-21-2013 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ethanhunt123 (Post 57741838)
So this wont work with modern cars (2007 and after)? Or is this going to be a paperweight?

it should work...if not, then ask for another one.

shane.kelly55 02-21-2013 02:36 PM

Would this work with an 09 Jetta Wagen?

Slinger2112 02-21-2013 03:03 PM

Hey SDers,

I read some of the reviews for a ELM327 v1.5 'clone' with a very similar appearance at Amazon.
The indications that the device would work well with Torque. There were multiple warnings that the CD that accompanies the device included a virus, links to pr0n sites, and other less than legit software. So, be wary when using the CD.

I also saw much of the same 'clone' info (from wikipedia and ELM's website). I don't see any real branding on this device, and see several versions of it at Amazon all with different 'manufacturers'. Seems to confirm the 'cloniness'... I expect that the software in this device is based on the 'early' unprotected firmware image. Its possible that the 'cloners' made improvements to the original code... I guess...

Torque sounds awesome though...

EasyGuy 02-21-2013 03:03 PM

I have one of these, saved my family at least $500 from going to the auto shop and them giving us lies.

OzTambo 02-21-2013 03:04 PM

I have this and it is great.. having the ability toi read codes via blue tooth is really cool and reset and clear errors before SMOG is amazing..

I have not found it as reliable and my hard wired into PC tools just FYI, but easily worth 20 bucks..

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ethanhunt123 (Post 57741838)
So this wont work with modern cars (2007 and after)? Or is this going to be a paperweight?

I have used it on a 2002 Subaru, my 08 Stang, 02 Toyota 4runner and F250 Diesel truck - The truck it cleared the faults but did not read them the first time..

haynstyle78 02-21-2013 03:09 PM

I just go to Autozone for my check engine light readings. It's free there.

kmoff77 02-21-2013 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RomanG (Post 57733302)
ELM 327 works well for me. The bluetooth is a great feature and much better than having a cable connected to the device. 100% recommend Torque Pro as well. A great app, and worth the small $5.00 price. I receive regular updates to the app constantly adding new features. I am still learning things about it after having it for a year.

I agree with this. I also have the ELM 327. However I use the Torque Lite. I really only use it to turn off my check engine light.

cowguy 02-21-2013 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slobadon (Post 57741154)
I love this paired with the Torque on Android for my Honda Element. Use it almost daily.

I have one of these and have it working with my car but can't exactly figure out what to do with the data it puts out. How do you use this on a daily basis? And can you diagnose some thing like "bad mileage" from this ? Thanks

geocacher99 02-21-2013 03:12 PM

If only there was a cheap way to flash or update a vehicles firmware

telveer 02-21-2013 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Impact-Vector (Post 57727404)
Only downside is its not android/ipad/iphone software included

Use this with Torque Lite app. I got the Pro version for Android, to reward the developer. BT OBDII Dongle + Torque Pro S/W - not bad for a grand total of less than $17!

UncleRunkle 02-21-2013 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geocacher99 (Post 57742816)
If only there was a cheap way to flash or update a vehicles firmware

I agree. I want to update my ECU. Anyone have any thoughts on how this could be done?

ciswt 02-21-2013 03:24 PM

so what makes this better than any of the other units that are on newegg for practically the same price?

kalinaprobe 02-21-2013 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ersatz (Post 57741750)
Probably not. Won't read SRS or TPMS codes either. You won't be able to access any system/computer that has a separate warning light on your dash.

I have the USB version of ELM327 and it does not read SRS or TPMS. Needed to troubleshoot codes on a chevy for the tire sensors and for the airbags that ware showing off on different occasions from time to time, but this scanner is not for that.

kalinaprobe 02-21-2013 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ethanhunt123 (Post 57741838)
So this wont work with modern cars (2007 and after)? Or is this going to be a paperweight?

It does work on all cars made for US since 1996. It will also work on 2007 and after.

wolfking 02-21-2013 03:38 PM

This one works pretty well for me and only costs $5.99
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/e...57194?mt=8

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadowgerm (Post 57740134)
Are there any free OBD apps in the app store for this? Dashcommand is 49.99, yikes better to buy a used android phone


xWarMECHx 02-21-2013 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richardsonke (Post 57729046)
Not trying to TC, but I found a smaller, cheaper one on dinodirect. I have no idea if it's as good as the one OP linked to, though.

EDIT: url was blocked. Don't want to get in trouble with the mods, but if you were looking for it, it's on DinoDirect's "groupbuy" site.

Thanks/Reps! Found it and decided to go with the one you posted instead. Cheaper than eBay and Amazon for the same device. The lower profile is a must on my Talon's.

Wish I would've invested in a bluetooth one years ago. I had a USB one, but some asshole saw the cable laying out and assumed the laptop it connected to was hidden under my seat. Needless to say my windows got smashed (guess the dimwit couldn't reach the lock after breaking the rear passenger window) and OBD2 reader was stolen. Luckily I brought the laptop in the night before.

Nowadays with old Android phones laying around and cheap tablets, this device will be much more convenient. :)

Bondgamer 02-21-2013 03:44 PM

You can spend a dollar more for the mini version.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Pro...1NV0KP0705

apyo 02-21-2013 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ersatz (Post 57741750)
Probably not. Won't read SRS or TPMS codes either. You won't be able to access any system/computer that has a separate warning light on your dash.

What about this "Actron CP9449 BrakeScan Anti Lock Brake System (ABS) Diagnostic Scan Tool" ?
It shows connecting to obdII port and is able to! And this can't? Hardware (scaner) or software unable to?



Tried using car gauge lite (android) and its a piece of crap!! I won't pay for pro version if lite version won't read. It's saying no response from ecu.....
May be order from amazon and return it if it doesn't work, which I hate to do.
Thanks in advance for any insight......

bussam 02-21-2013 04:06 PM

I bought this for ~ $30 a couple years ago and use it with Torque. Worth every penny and getting a couple more at this price; my friend's a mechanic and this will probably be a cool gift.

therock_80 02-21-2013 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slobadon (Post 57741154)
I love this paired with the Torque on Android for my Honda Element. Use it almost daily.

Did you always leave it plugged?

FinsUp99 02-21-2013 04:46 PM

I paid less on Amazon for this exact scanner around early January. Sadly, I needed to deal with some issues between the pins on my car to the scanner that involved crafting my own adapter. Downloaded the Torque "Captain Jack Sparrow-style" and it works. Beats paying $100+ for the Scanguage II. Do your research before you buy it. Just because your car's make is mentioned doesn't mean it'll work on your specific car.

grovestreet 02-21-2013 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrstangblb (Post 57732470)
I've had great results with this BAFX reader from Amazon [amazon.com]. Yes, it's more expensive, but the American company that sells them is great and corresponds well, the reader works really well with Torque Free and Torque Pro, and I've done a lot of good work on my car and on others using either my phone or my tablets.


i just checked out BAFX's website and from which i concluded that it's just an importer of made in China products.

the only difference is that BAFX ships from amazon warehouse.

Quote:

Originally Posted by therock_80 (Post 57744376)
Did you always leave it plugged?


on my toyota it drains battery slowly as the obd port is powered without a key. but if you drive 20 miles daily there shouldn't be a problem

LordAthens 02-21-2013 05:16 PM

I leave mine all plugged in without issue. We have 4 cars between the two of us, so it's quite often that at least one of them (typically the 8mpg Wrangler) sits for weeks without being looked at, let alone driven. No issues with draining the battery. It sits in an idle state until it receives a request via BT.

Quote:

Originally Posted by XeoNoX (Post 57741334)
finally two people that know what they are talking about, yes indeed the clones are based off stolen technology as they forgot to encrypt/copy protect the software coding on the original ELM,

LordAthens, i hate to tell u, but I TOLD U SO!!!

/le sigh. You clearly aren't understanding what I'm saying. So I'll just let it go at that.

LordAthens 02-21-2013 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FinsUp99 (Post 57744580)
Downloaded the Torque "Captain Jack Sparrow-style" and it works. Beats paying $100+ for the Scanguage II.

Really? You couldn't pony up the $5 to support Ian, one of the best Android dev's out there? I use Torque on a daily basis and would have gladly paid $20 for it.

Wow dude. Wow.

RaGe420 02-21-2013 05:21 PM

So besides price and wifi/bluetooth are there any diff on this one or
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/...UTF8&psc=1

LordAthens 02-21-2013 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by apyo (Post 57743742)
What about this "Actron CP9449 BrakeScan Anti Lock Brake System (ABS) Diagnostic Scan Tool" ?
It shows connecting to obdII port and is able to! And this can't? Hardware (scaner) or software unable to?



Tried using car gauge lite (android) and its a piece of crap!! I won't pay for pro version if lite version won't read. It's saying no response from ecu.....
May be order from amazon and return it if it doesn't work, which I hate to do.
Thanks in advance for any insight......

Your post is a little confusing.. You said it won't connect to the ECU, but you're also saying "Maybe order it from Amazon", as though you haven't ordered any adapter at all yet.

So do you have a BT OBDII adapter or no?

LordAthens 02-21-2013 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RaGe420 (Post 57745190)
So besides price and wifi/bluetooth are there any diff on this one or
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/...UTF8&psc=1

The Kiwi is no better than the other cheaper ELM based units. There *are* better units out there than the ELM, at a MUCH higher cost, that just isn't one of them.

http://torque-bhp.com/wiki/Bluetooth_Adapters < That should help a bit

explore777 02-21-2013 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fyu (Post 57735462)
autozone isn't allowed to reset. liability reasons.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkyKing02 (Post 57734774)
can u reset the check engine light on this? or find the reason for engine light? autozone wasn't helpful at all....

Discount Auto Parts has reset mine. I am not sure if that is their company policy.

Dingaling 02-21-2013 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by apyo (Post 57743742)
What about this "Actron CP9449 BrakeScan Anti Lock Brake System (ABS) Diagnostic Scan Tool" ?
It shows connecting to obdII port and is able to! And this can't? Hardware (scaner) or software unable to?
.

This interface will only give you the basic OBDII info( tps, o2, map, erg ect. ), and maybe not even all of those depending on year.

You will not be able to do ABS,SIR,Antitheft, Trans, any sub systems or any manufacturer specific enhanced readings. Everything is still done though the obdii port, I think it's mostly software issue. For a more complete version you'd have to look into buying an Autoenginuity [autoenginuity.com]type unit &software.

mitsubi 02-21-2013 06:28 PM

Sold out :(

laiyenha 02-21-2013 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grovestreet (Post 57744928)
on my toyota it drains battery slowly as the obd port is powered without a key. but if you drive 20 miles daily there shouldn't be a problem

I used to leave it plugged in my Mazda 3. However, this winter my battery is weakened and this thing drained enough to prevent the engine from starting. Other than that, it works great though.

Kotori 02-21-2013 07:04 PM

roqyBT4 & roqyODBII4 + this work great for iphone. You can get the mini size for under $15 on ebay.

sydam3 02-21-2013 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kotori (Post 57747188)
roqyBT4 & roqyODBII4 + this work great for iphone. You can get the mini size for under $15 on ebay.


Thanks for confirming that. Just grabbed the full versions of roqy from xsellize and ordered this ODB. My car radio says a lot of info already but this will be nice to see a lil more and even compare the two...

JDG1119 02-21-2013 07:26 PM

I found this.

US $10.49

you should wait so long time.

http://www.aliexpress.com/store/p...15786.html

SkyKing02 02-21-2013 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kotori (Post 57747188)
roqyBT4 & roqyODBII4 + this work great for iphone. You can get the mini size for under $15 on ebay.

what source is for roqyODBII4? i can only find roqyODB4.

Kotori 02-21-2013 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sydam3 (Post 57747328)
Thanks for confirming that. Just grabbed the full versions of roqy from xsellize and ordered this ODB. My car radio says a lot of info already but this will be nice to see a lil more and even compare the two...

what car radio do you have?

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkyKing02 (Post 57748128)
what source is for roqyODBII4? i can only find roqyODB4.

oh sorry, it's roqyODB4

sydam3 02-21-2013 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkyKing02 (Post 57748128)
what source is for roqyODBII4? i can only find roqyODB4.

just search for roqy and will show it all, its actually just roqyODB4

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kotori (Post 57748536)
what car radio do you have?

07 Malibu Maxx 3.5L - Stock Head Unit is a double din unit with Trip A/B, MPG, miles left, oil life. I added the PAC unit for iPhone and aux inputs too...

avalon 02-21-2013 08:41 PM

Get the new small model. It's one third the size of this first generation model.

SkyKing02 02-21-2013 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kotori (Post 57748536)
what car radio do you have?


oh sorry, it's roqyODB4

Quote:

Originally Posted by sydam3 (Post 57748742)
just search for roqy and will show it all, its actually just roqyODB4



07 Malibu Maxx 3.5L - Stock Head Unit is a double din unit with Trip A/B, MPG, miles left, oil life. I added the PAC unit for iPhone and aux inputs too...


thanks...

dabuddha 02-22-2013 04:10 AM

dumb question. If my laptop has a bluetooth adapter built into it, could I use that (is there windows software)?

dvanburen 02-22-2013 04:12 AM

I bought a much smaller one for the same price about 2 months ago.

Edit: This [ebay.com] one.

aqan 02-22-2013 04:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sydam3 (Post 57748742)
just search for roqy and will show it all, its actually just roqyODB4



07 Malibu Maxx 3.5L - Stock Head Unit is a double din unit with Trip A/B, MPG, miles left, oil life. I added the PAC unit for iPhone and aux inputs too...

You don't buy obd reader for this info.

signalsoldier 02-22-2013 04:34 AM

I am a car n00b but this sounds like something that could potentially save me some cash. So I have a corresponding n00b question.

is this a universal pluggable device? I have an Audi and I know German cars are notorious for being totally different than anything else.

For 11 bucks I am willing to give it a try and hopefully learn some stuff

Gatsugansu 02-22-2013 04:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by signalsoldier (Post 57752642)
I am a car n00b but this sounds like something that could potentially save me some cash. So I have a corresponding n00b question.

is this a universal pluggable device? I have an Audi and I know German cars are notorious for being totally different than anything else.

For 11 bucks I am willing to give it a try and hopefully learn some stuff

you don't need it.

Ethanhunt123 02-22-2013 04:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kalinaprobe (Post 57743234)
It does work on all cars made for US since 1996. It will also work on 2007 and after.

how about cars made in japan?

Deal Explorer 02-22-2013 04:45 AM

Very cool! I was thinking about buying this from Amazon for $4 more. In 4 1.
Thanks OP! TU and reps!

Deal Explorer 02-22-2013 04:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ethanhunt123 (Post 57752724)
how about cars made in japan?

Yes. I'm getting this to use on my wife's 2010 Honda Accord. If it is sold in the US (legally), it will have this interface, as it is used when doing the inspections, as well as problem diagnosis.

nstarz 02-22-2013 04:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ethanhunt123 (Post 57752724)
how about cars made in japan?

Quote:

Some 1994 and 1995 model year vehicles do have OBD-II. If your vehicle is 1996 or newer, U.S. federal law requires that all vehicles (cars and light trucks) sold in the United States must be OBD-II compliant. This includes all domestic (Ford, Dodge, GM, etc.) and import/foreign (Toyota, Honda, etc.) vehicles.

The sure-fire way to find out if your vehicle is OBD-II compliant is to look for the standard DLC (data link connector) that all OBD II vehicles have. It will be located underneath the driver's side of the dash:

OBD Diagnostic Plug

Location of OBD Port

Now, if your vehicle is 1996 or newer, you definitely have OBD-II. If your vehicle is older than 1996, the presence of the DLC may or may not indicate that you have OBD-II. To verify, look under the hood for a VECI label. The VECI label will indicate whether or not the vehicle has OBD II. Sorry, I don't have a photo of the VECI label.
http://www.obd-codes.com/faq/do-i...ehicle.php


Side note: Isn't this the same?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Auto-ELM3...35c399c8f2
Price:
US $12.42 ship from US. A bit cheaper I think w/o tax from Newegg.

dvanburen 02-22-2013 04:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nstarz (Post 57752776)
http://www.obd-codes.com/faq/do-i...ehicle.php


Side note: Isn't this the same?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Auto-ELM3...35c399c8f2
Price:
US $12.42 ship from US. A bit cheaper I think w/o tax from Newegg.

$10.98 [ebay.com] - Same thing, smaller package. I have this one, it works fine for an ELM device.

5thElement 02-22-2013 04:54 AM

You people have no idea what you are buying. This thing is pure junk.

Quote:

Originally Posted by signalsoldier (Post 57752642)
I am a car n00b but this sounds like something that could potentially save me some cash. So I have a corresponding n00b question.

is this a universal pluggable device? I have an Audi and I know German cars are notorious for being totally different than anything else.

For 11 bucks I am willing to give it a try and hopefully learn some stuff

No, it only support outdated protocols.

nstarz 02-22-2013 04:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dvanburen (Post 57752796)
$10.98 [ebay.com] - Same thing, smaller package. I have this one, it works fine for an ELM device.

Is there any functionality lost between the two?

Bmr4life 02-22-2013 05:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhazard (Post 57733588)
Been using one of these for years with Torque Pro. TREMENDOUS value, especially if you throw a fault code and would end up spending way more at your mechanic to tell you what this will.

Oh, and the realtime monitoring and logging is just as good or better than my accessport, which costs $500+.

LOL, Autozone, Advanced Auto, etc read codes for free.

Unless you drive a crappy car that throws codes all the time, why would you want this?

Also, there's no way the HP and TQ numbers guesstimated by Torque Pro are accurate, lol.

FinsUp99 02-22-2013 05:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5thElement (Post 57752806)
You people have no idea what you are buying. This thing is pure junk.

Not exactly junk, but I do agree. Way too many takers for a product that they apparently don't understand. I'm no gearhead by any means. I thought I could just plug my "universal scanner" into my Prius and access it through the Torque application. Plugged it into my Prius and my car's display lit up like a slot machine. What I didn't know was that a Prius (generation one) has big issues with OBD2 scanners that can only be fixed by either making your own adapter or plunking down alot more money than the scanner cost.

Do....your.....research.

Bmr4life 02-22-2013 05:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FinsUp99 (Post 57752950)
Not exactly junk, but I do agree. Way too many takers for a product that they apparently don't understand. I'm no gearhead by any means. I thought I could just plug my "universal scanner" into my Prius and access it through the Torque application. Plugged it into my Prius and my car's display lit up like a slot machine. What I didn't know was that a Prius (generation one) has big issues with OBD2 scanners that can only be fixed by either making your own adapter or plunking down alot more money than the scanner cost.

Do....your.....research.

A lot of people in here have no clue what they're buying. I bet a large portion of them want to be able to clear the idiot light instead of actually fixing their problems. Others think they'll get some cool and useful info which they either won't understand or will not care about after a few days when the coolness wears off. Maybe a handful of them plan on using the data to fix what could be wrong with their car, maybe.

BentValve 02-22-2013 05:20 AM

Good price but Ebay has this same one going for $12 shipped all the time. This has helped me clear 4 codes on my BMW. It's only junk if you don't know what you are doing. I use it with the free Torque app.

apyo 02-22-2013 05:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by apyo (Post 57743742)
What about this "Actron CP9449 BrakeScan Anti Lock Brake System (ABS) Diagnostic Scan Tool" ?
It shows connecting to obdII port and is able to! And this can't? Hardware (scaner) or software unable to?



Tried using car gauge lite (android) and its a piece of crap!! I won't pay for pro version if lite version won't read. It's saying no response from ecu.....
May be order from amazon and return it if it doesn't work, which I hate to do.
Thanks in advance for any insight......

Quote:

Originally Posted by LordAthens (Post 57745196)
Your post is a little confusing.. You said it won't connect to the ECU, but you're also saying "Maybe order it from Amazon", as though you haven't ordered any adapter at all yet.

So do you have a BT OBDII adapter or no?

I have the obdII bluetooth adapter already. And I use Torque already to show RPM and such which my car don't show.
But I'm looking for a way to read fault codes for ABS, since ABS light is on. And I tried car gauge lite and as I said it wont't read. Said no response from ECU.

Now I showed a product from amazon that can connect thru OBDII port that reads ABS codes["Actron CP9449 BrakeScan Anti Lock Brake System (ABS) Diagnostic Scan Tool"] and It reads the abs fault codes thru OBDII port.

So now I'm looking for a software that works with this this ELM/bluetooth adapter who can read ABS codes? I'm not looking to reset the codes but to trouble shoot where the fault lies!

telveer 02-22-2013 05:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DVDBob (Post 57731230)
Any recommendations for an iOS app? Torque Pro looks to be Android only.

Good luck finding a cheap one. Apples walled city and modified BT stack would require you to spend a lot more both for compatible hardware and software ex: http://www.amazon.com/BlueDriver-...B00652G4TS

masterdanielson 02-22-2013 05:22 AM

Torque
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Impact-Vector (Post 57727404)
Only downside is its not android/ipad/iphone software included


You have to download torque on android in order to use this its' very useful.

adamant 02-22-2013 05:27 AM

Sold out.

Citizen_Insane 02-22-2013 05:37 AM

Gone. Sold out.

spl152db 02-22-2013 05:40 AM

most of these are fake and don't actually work.

redcashmere 02-22-2013 05:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spl152db (Post 57753366)
most of these are fake and don't actually work.

Newegg has a good return policy.

Strmtrper6 02-22-2013 05:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by telobeck (Post 57731134)
I would buy the MINI version. This one is about as tall as a pack of smokes. Ebay has the Mini ones that are about as tall as a quarter. If you are going to leave it installed under your dash and drive around, you will quickly see size does matter.

As someone who now has bent pins in his OBDII socket, I concur.

sm69th 02-22-2013 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fyu (Post 57735462)
autozone isn't allowed to reset. liability reasons.

Depends on where you go...when i go there, yeah, they can't reset...but they always tell me which button to press so I can reset it when they aren't looking (and then they turn the other way LOL).

Been looking for a tool like this though and probably will grab it so I can just troubleshoot my own stuff...

jimmyt 02-22-2013 05:58 AM

I believe ios makes it difficult to work with the bluetooth stack. There are only limited ios apps out there if any. there was one by griffin a few years ago but I believe you needed their proprietary adapter.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DVDBob (Post 57731230)
Any recommendations for an iOS app? Torque Pro looks to be Android only.


Slobadon 02-22-2013 06:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by therock_80 (Post 57744376)
Did you always leave it plugged?

Yep, I have for over a year and no problems cranking and all battery tests have been good. The Element has a small battery and I live in the Southeast.

LordKronos 02-22-2013 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bmr4life (Post 57752924)
LOL, Autozone, Advanced Auto, etc read codes for free.

Unless you drive a crappy car that throws codes all the time, why would you want this?

Also, there's no way the HP and TQ numbers guesstimated by Torque Pro are accurate, lol.


My 2005 colorado had ABS issues (bad sensor). Periodically when I started the vehicle, the ABS would go crazy, and the light would come on. When this would happen the vehicle was undrivable (the ABS was kicking in even when you weren't braking), so you would have to shut it of, restart it, and then everything was fine. I took it to autozone, but the problem wasn't happening at that time, and they said they were unable to read the history, so they couldn't help me.

spl152db 02-22-2013 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LordKronos (Post 57755068)
My 2005 colorado had ABS issues (bad sensor). Periodically when I started the vehicle, the ABS would go crazy, and the light would come on. When this would happen the vehicle was undrivable (the ABS was kicking in even when you weren't braking), so you would have to shut it of, restart it, and then everything was fine. I took it to autozone, but the problem wasn't happening at that time, and they said they were unable to read the history, so they couldn't help me.

the cheap scanners can't access the history and plus I'm not sure how long ABS codes are stored.

Procter 02-22-2013 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spl152db (Post 57755168)
the cheap scanners can't access the history and plus I'm not sure how long ABS codes are stored.

Cheap OBDII scanners could not read ABS/Brake system codes at all. AAP and autozone can loan you the OBD scanners to read check engine codes, but if you have ABS or brake problem you'll have to buy a ABS/brake code scanner or a fancy All-in-one scanner that could read everything.

spl152db 02-22-2013 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Procter (Post 57755362)
Cheap OBDII scanners could not read ABS/Brake system codes at all. AAP and autozone can loan you the OBD scanners to read check engine codes, but if you have ABS or brake problem you'll have to buy a ABS/brake code scanner or a fancy All-in-one scanner that could read everything.

oh yea. forgot about that.

mrstangblb 02-22-2013 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grovestreet (Post 57744928)
i just checked out BAFX's website and from which i concluded that it's just an importer of made in China products.

the only difference is that BAFX ships from amazon warehouse.

They were easy to contact and are good to get back to you - unlike some other sellers that you may buy from and never hear anything back from if you have questions.

bhazard 02-22-2013 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bmr4life (Post 57752924)
LOL, Autozone, Advanced Auto, etc read codes for free.

Unless you drive a crappy car that throws codes all the time, why would you want this?

Also, there's no way the HP and TQ numbers guesstimated by Torque Pro are accurate, lol.

Condescending much? Who cares about HP calculations from an app. If you care, you're on a dyno checking it. The app gives you a lot for $5.

Why would I drive out to autozone when I can read my own codes for $12 and log my car at any time through my phone? Do you check knock from your tune by mind reading? I could check from my Accessport, which costs way more, but having the logs on my phone is much more useful.

Typical inflated ego based on the car you drive.

MozartA 02-22-2013 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redcashmere (Post 57753378)
Newegg has a good return policy.

So the return policy also apply to 3rd party seller at Newegg?

kalinaprobe 02-22-2013 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ethanhunt123 (Post 57752724)
how about cars made in japan?

It does not matter where it is made, if it is for the US market since 96, it must have OBDII.

XeoNoX 02-22-2013 09:10 AM

i never knew there were SO many @home mechanics on slickdeals! :lmao::lmao::lmao:

MozartA 02-22-2013 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrstangblb (Post 57732470)
I've had great results with this BAFX reader from Amazon [amazon.com]. Yes, it's more expensive, but the American company that sells them is great and corresponds well, the reader works really well with Torque Free and Torque Pro, and I've done a lot of good work on my car and on others using either my phone or my tablets.

I guess you get what you pay for. Just because the outer case look similar, doesn't mean the components inside are the same. We all know you can buy fake brand name items in China easily. They just make the outside looks like any other scanner but the quality is a lot worse. Based on reviews at Amazon, we know there are clear different between $12 and $24 scanner.
http://www.amazon.com/b/ref=dp_br...e=15707381

There are so many scanner with 4 to 5 stars reviews. Some only couple dollar more. No need to buy from this 3rd party seller with only bad reviews from SDers.

Bmr4life 02-22-2013 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhazard (Post 57756132)
Condescending much? Who cares about HP calculations from an app. If you care, you're on a dyno checking it. The app gives you a lot for $5.

Why would I drive out to autozone when I can read my own codes for $12 and log my car at any time through my phone? Do you check knock from your tune by mind reading? I could check from my Accessport, which costs way more, but having the logs on my phone is much more useful.

Typical inflated ego based on the car you drive.

So you tune your car, but don't have a hand held programmer? Right...

Also, I drove crappy cars for years. I know all about the engine light being on all the time, lol.

Bmr4life 02-22-2013 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LordKronos (Post 57755068)
My 2005 colorado had ABS issues (bad sensor). Periodically when I started the vehicle, the ABS would go crazy, and the light would come on. When this would happen the vehicle was undrivable (the ABS was kicking in even when you weren't braking), so you would have to shut it of, restart it, and then everything was fine. I took it to autozone, but the problem wasn't happening at that time, and they said they were unable to read the history, so they couldn't help me.

Neither would this device.

jhopgood 02-22-2013 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkyKing02 (Post 57739218)
back in stock...awesome!!!


what about lexus?

thanks for the info, i went ahead and ordered one from newegg.

This site might be useful for some to find compatibility:
http://www.outilsobdfacile.com/ve...rand=lexus

Will likely order the mini one that is still in stock or go ebay...

LordKronos 02-22-2013 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bmr4life (Post 57759698)
Neither would this device.

The point was, some codes are intermittent, and don't always present themselves when you are in the Autozone parking lot.

But if you think this sort of thing is so stupid, why are you even in the thread?

Bmr4life 02-22-2013 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LordKronos (Post 57760052)
The point was, some codes are intermittent, and don't always present themselves when you are in the Autozone parking lot.

But if you think this sort of thing is so stupid, why are you even in the thread?

Came in interested hoping this would have more capability. I was let down.

I currently datalog my car with my OBDII programmer hooked up to my laptop via a USB cord. Its not the most comfortable situation.

dvanburen 02-22-2013 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nstarz (Post 57752830)
Is there any functionality lost between the two?

Same ELM chip, which determines the functionality. Only drawback is the long shipping times from Asia.

ayja 02-22-2013 10:43 AM

sold out

dvanburen 02-22-2013 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ltak (Post 57734136)
That's what I did when I bought the BAFX a couple days ago. Received it yesterday. 543 reviews on Amazon with 23 one star reviews (4.6 average).

The OPs product appears to be the orange and blue labeled version. There are a handful of the orange and blue versions on Amazon. The Soliport one has 427 reviews with 58 one star reviews (4.0 average). The Koolertron has 189 total with 32 one star (4.0 average).

There are a number of reviewers who have had both the BAFX and orange/blue readers and found the BAFX to have higher compatibility and reliability. It's only $10 more and the last thing any troubleshooter wants is doubt in their measurement devices.

This isn't directed at you specifically, but to everyone comparing ELM devices in general. Other than outright defective units there aren't many differences between them. They all have the same chip inside. If you want quality you get this [amazon.com].

LordAthens 02-22-2013 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dabuddha (Post 57752492)
dumb question. If my laptop has a bluetooth adapter built into it, could I use that (is there windows software)?

Absolutely. http://www.obd2crazy.com/software.html

There are other more polished (and more expensive) software packages out there for Windows based OBD II data logging as well.


Quote:

Originally Posted by signalsoldier (Post 57752642)
I am a car n00b but this sounds like something that could potentially save me some cash. So I have a corresponding n00b question.

is this a universal pluggable device? I have an Audi and I know German cars are notorious for being totally different than anything else.

For 11 bucks I am willing to give it a try and hopefully learn some stuff

Yes. Any car in the US has been federally mandated since 1996 to have OBD II. Some had it prior to 06. Prior to that it was OBD I which was basically a total free for all.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gatsugansu (Post 57752660)
you don't need it.

Who are you determine what he wants?


Quote:

Originally Posted by Ethanhunt123 (Post 57752724)
how about cars made in japan?

Yes. See my comment above.


Quote:

Originally Posted by 5thElement (Post 57752806)
You people have no idea what you are buying. This thing is pure junk.


No, it only support outdated protocols.

Yes, you're right 352 3-5 star reviews out of 428. [amazon.com] Yes, total junk. 352 people out of 428 have no idea what they're talking about.

It's been well told in this thread that it IS a hit and miss adapter. It either works, or it doesn't. It has poor quality control. We know this. But it's cheap and worth the gamble since Newegg has a solid return policy.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Bmr4life (Post 57752924)
LOL, Autozone, Advanced Auto, etc read codes for free.

Unless you drive a crappy car that throws codes all the time, why would you want this?

Also, there's no way the HP and TQ numbers guesstimated by Torque Pro are accurate, lol.

Sure, they do read codes for free, during their business hours. I can do this any time I want. And I can log whatever sensors I want throughout the duration of a trip. That alone can be invaluable when troubleshooting.

And we all appreciate the elitist attitude. Brand new cars can throw codes, just as old cars. Some of my most reliable cars have actually been old GM's. Have an 88 Buick that just won't die. It rides nicer than our 2004+ vehicles, has a strong motor and still gets pretty solid mileage (18\26 out of a 3.8L V-6). The paint looks like garbage, but otherwise it's great for road trips and winter beating. And you do realize there is more to it than just pulling codes? As an example, I have it setup in my fiance's Pontiac Vibe to monitor mileage. Since it displays instant MPG and she is quite competitive, she is constantly trying to get the best mileage possible. I knew she would do that when I installed it and since she drive 50 miles a day, I'm quite positive that alone has paid for the adapter multiple times over. She used to average ~23 mpg, now she averages 27-28.

And lastly, as long as you actually setup the unit properly (you have to calibrate the angle of the phone in the mount, etc), it can be quite accurate for measuring HP, Torque, 1/4 times, etc. It works off of the same principals that the GTech units [gtechpro.com] do.


Quote:

Originally Posted by FinsUp99 (Post 57752950)
Not exactly junk, but I do agree. Way too many takers for a product that they apparently don't understand. I'm no gearhead by any means. I thought I could just plug my "universal scanner" into my Prius and access it through the Torque application. Plugged it into my Prius and my car's display lit up like a slot machine. What I didn't know was that a Prius (generation one) has big issues with OBD2 scanners that can only be fixed by either making your own adapter or plunking down alot more money than the scanner cost.

Do....your.....research.

This is the exception rather than the norm and is yet another Toyota issue. In most applications, if you're vehicle is a 1996 or newer, you won't have issues. I can think of at least 20 different cars off the top of my head that I've plugged into without issue including, Buick, Pontiac, Saturn, Jeep, Volvo, Ford, GMC, Chevy, Saab, Toyota, Suzuki, BMW, Dodge, Honda, Nissan and Kia. Those are only the ones that I can think of right off the top of my head. Hell, I know some professional mechanics that are using them because it's easier to grab that and the phone they already have on them, than to drag out their Snap On Solus. The Solus does a whole lot more, including vehicle specific platforms and sensors, like ABS, that generic OBD II was never designed to read since it was designed to primarily be an emissions interface.



Quote:

Originally Posted by apyo (Post 57753078)
I have the obdII bluetooth adapter already. And I use Torque already to show RPM and such which my car don't show.
But I'm looking for a way to read fault codes for ABS, since ABS light is on. And I tried car gauge lite and as I said it wont't read. Said no response from ECU.

Now I showed a product from amazon that can connect thru OBDII port that reads ABS codes["Actron CP9449 BrakeScan Anti Lock Brake System (ABS) Diagnostic Scan Tool"] and It reads the abs fault codes thru OBDII port.

So now I'm looking for a software that works with this this ELM/bluetooth adapter who can read ABS codes? I'm not looking to reset the codes but to trouble shoot where the fault lies!

Be wary of the 9449. I tested it briefly when I was looking for an ABS unit. While it will read all OBD II, it has a very limited list of vehicles that it will support ABS codes on. I ended up with a pair of higher end Innova units that I'm very pleased with.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Strmtrper6 (Post 57753422)
As someone who now has bent pins in his OBDII socket, I concur.

How did you manage that? OBD II ports are nearly indestructible. They're contacts in fully boxed plastic channels. I could see bending the pins on the adapter, since its the only part that actually has pins, but not on the vehicle interface itself.

OstrichSak 02-22-2013 10:59 AM

Damn, I needed one of these for another car. Had great luck with the orange/purple label ones.

sydam3 02-22-2013 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aqan (Post 57752586)
You don't buy obd reader for this info.

I buy whatever I want for whatever reasons I want. Who are you to tell me why I would get something?

Please, mr professional mechanic man, enlighten us on what else you would buy this for? Do you even know what this is? This is not a Motis.... Which I own as well.... Please let ME know what I need. Ridiculousness...

nstarz 02-22-2013 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dvanburen (Post 57760602)
Same ELM chip, which determines the functionality. Only drawback is the long shipping times from Asia.

Thanks. bought. Hope to get it in working condition since I'll be attempting to get some more life on the battery on my 08 Civic Hybrid. (I wonder if anyone tried to recondition a hybrid battery here).

seotaji 02-22-2013 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XeoNoX (Post 57735092)
i guess the real " LoL" is to the people that bought this so called deal, its a phony, after doing some research there is no GENUINE v1.5, that's why the reviews are so mix with DOA and ones that don't work right. the real ones like the BAFX are the 1.4 or 1.4b. got this info straight from the makers of the Chipset. http://www.elmelectronics.com/obdic.html

Quote:

Originally Posted by XeoNoX (Post 57737248)
i can comprehend just fine my friend, u are the one not comprehending that it is a fake clone. U can call up ELMS327 makers and find out for yourself that there is no v1.5 and that the on posted by the OP is indeed a CLONE (this will solve YOUR CLAIMS and prove it is a CLONE!! Nuff said!!) On the other hand the BAFX one is legit.

The BAFX is a clone as well. There is nothing 'legit' about the BAFX unit other than it being fufilled by a reputable company (Amazon). The unit has v.1.5 on the back, just like the orange one from newegg. There is no difference between them, other than the sticker and the price. They are both knockoff clones. There is no reason why the blue version on amazon is $24 and the orange one from newegg is $12.

Go with the cheaper model. Don't waste your money thinking the BAFX one is any better.

Ltak 02-22-2013 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dvanburen (Post 57760792)
This isn't directed at you specifically, but to everyone comparing ELM devices in general. Other than outright defective units there aren't many differences between them. They all have the same chip inside. If you want quality you get this [amazon.com].

I'm sure that hundred plus dollar unit is better. As for the ELM327 devices, it seems like the BAFX either has better QA or there is a slight variation in their circuit/firmware/whatever that explains the large ratings difference. If they are all the same and that the BAFX just undergoes a little more testing, then yeah, you can save money by buying the cheaper one and just returning a defective unit. Personally, the cost savings isn't worth it in that case, but everyone is different.

From the BAFX reviews:

"Like others on here, I had previously purchased the cheap blue and orange unit in an attempt to use Torque on my android, to poor results. I am VERY happy to report that this unit works, works well, and is exactly as described. "

"Works great with my Moto Bionic cell phone and Torque. I also bought one of the orange and blue ones and they are a bit slower on updating. "

"Let me start off by saying I had purchased a regular Elm327 (with the orange/blue label) off of another site previously and had a horrible experience. Most of the others available out there don't work on Fords and a number of other vehicles even though they say they do."

wolfking 02-22-2013 04:20 PM

Engine Link - ODB II diagnosis and .. is a pretty good one.
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/e...57194?mt=8

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadowgerm (Post 57740134)
Are there any free OBD apps in the app store for this? Dashcommand is 49.99, yikes better to buy a used android phone


aqan 02-22-2013 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sydam3 (Post 57762986)
I buy whatever I want for whatever reasons I want. Who are you to tell me why I would get something?

Please, mr professional mechanic man, enlighten us on what else you would buy this for? Do you even know what this is? This is not a Motis.... Which I own as well.... Please let ME know what I need. Ridiculousness...

take it easy dude...didn't think my response was that offensive.

dvanburen 02-22-2013 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ltak (Post 57767428)
I'm sure that hundred plus dollar unit is better. As for the ELM327 devices, it seems like the BAFX either has better QA or there is a slight variation in their circuit/firmware/whatever that explains the large ratings difference. If they are all the same and that the BAFX just undergoes a little more testing, then yeah, you can save money by buying the cheaper one and just returning a defective unit. Personally, the cost savings isn't worth it in that case, but everyone is different.

From the BAFX reviews:

"Like others on here, I had previously purchased the cheap blue and orange unit in an attempt to use Torque on my android, to poor results. I am VERY happy to report that this unit works, works well, and is exactly as described. "

"Works great with my Moto Bionic cell phone and Torque. I also bought one of the orange and blue ones and they are a bit slower on updating. "

"Let me start off by saying I had purchased a regular Elm327 (with the orange/blue label) off of another site previously and had a horrible experience. Most of the others available out there don't work on Fords and a number of other vehicles even though they say they do."

I agree, to each their own. I personally have an ELM327 device I got on eBay for all of $11. It works great with my android tablet and the Torque app, plus it has a smaller form factor to boot. The drawback is the long shipping time (2-3 weeks). I wasn't in a hurry so it wasn't a big deal for me to wait.

The big difference between the ELM327 and the aforementioned adapter, and you may already know this, is how many PIDs they can read and relay per second. The better adapters work at 60+ PIDs/second whereas the ELM327 is lucky to reach 15-20 PIDs/second. I just use it to troubleshoot and datalog a few sensors on occasion, so this is fine for my particular usage.

5thElement 02-23-2013 06:11 AM

It saddens me to see so many people waste their money on this. This piece of junk can NOT access most of the protocols in your car. This is alot more complicated than just plugging it into you car and pressing a button. There are numerous protocols your car uses for various systems and this POS can only access an ancient one that is hardly used anymore.

OstrichSak 02-23-2013 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5thElement (Post 57776080)
It saddens me to see so many people waste their money on this. This piece of junk can NOT access most of the protocols in your car. This is alot more complicated than just plugging it into you car and pressing a button. There are numerous protocols your car uses for various systems and this POS can only access an ancient one that is hardly used anymore.


That's funny because I don't even have to press a button. I just plug it in and it works and has worked for me for years now on many vehicles. Maybe it can't do everything available or all 300 sensors/outputs but it has done everything I've ever needed from one. I think for most users this and a free phone app is WAY more than they actually need for regular use. Just because you personally don't think this meets your needs doesn't make it a waste of money for everyone else on earth. Don't be so egotistical to think that YOUR needs are everyone else's needs.

fyu 02-23-2013 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OstrichSak (Post 57779072)
That's funny because I don't even have to press a button. I just plug it in and it works and has worked for me for years now on many vehicles. Maybe it can't do everything available or all 300 sensors/outputs but it has done everything I've ever needed from one. I think for most users this and a free phone app is WAY more than they actually need for regular use. Just because you personally don't think this meets your needs doesn't make it a waste of money for everyone else on earth. Don't be so egotistical to think that YOUR needs are everyone else's needs.

agreed. most people just need to read codes and diagnosis problems.

nobody here is modding their car

dj-3lusion 02-23-2013 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fyu (Post 57780206)
agreed. most people just need to read codes and diagnosis problems.

nobody here is modding their car

I am!!! fast n the furious SlickDeals ymmv B&M drift!

SkyKing02 02-25-2013 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dj-3lusion (Post 57788412)
I am!!! fast n the furious SlickDeals ymmv B&M drift!

honda civic? lol...

peterpaul 02-26-2013 06:03 AM

Got the OBD bluetooth last night and plugged it in to the 97 Honda Accord (hey, I'm a slickdealer). This thing, with torque reader pro, works great. I instantly had real time access to everything going on in the engine (no codes to read, whew). I could see rpm, speed, but also things like the vacuum pressure in the engine!

Way to go, slickdealers. For $12 plus $5 I have an awesome OBD-II reader!

damnthatsadeal 02-27-2013 01:20 PM

Anybody got this particular module to work with ios 6.1 JB? I HAD ROQYBT4 and ROQYOBD4. It seems to connect to ROQYBT4 fine, but it won't communicate with dashcommand. Tia

XeoNoX 02-27-2013 02:04 PM

im trying to figure out if the bluetooth or wifi is better

damnthatsadeal 02-28-2013 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lpranal (Post 57732478)
If you want to use one of the "generic" adapters with iOS, you'll need to have your device jailbroken and get the roqyBT4 and roqyOBD packages from cydia. after that you can use most of the standard OBD2 apps in the App Store.

Just to clarify, you're using roqyOBD not roqyOBD4, right? I'm trying to use this particular module from Newegg, but for some reason it won't communicate with DashCommand. It supposedly connected to roqyBT just fine though.

lpranal 02-28-2013 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by damnthatsadeal (Post 57883228)
Just to clarify, you're using roqyOBD not roqyOBD4, right? I'm trying to use this particular module from Newegg, but for some reason it won't communicate with DashCommand. It supposedly connected to roqyBT just fine though.

RoqyBT4 is the newest version of RoqyBT, I believe for 4/4s/5 Devices running iOS 5+... don't quote me on that, but roqybt4 is what i have. RoqyOBD is the addon that allows it to communicate with dashcommand, as far as I know there is no "RoqyOBD4". I followed the following procedure to get mine working... took a couple tries to get all the settings right but there's no reason it shouldn't work:

http://www.palmerperformance.com/...pic=5794.0

SkyKing02 02-28-2013 08:46 AM

my gosh...i'm still waiting for my order! this is taking forever!

damnthatsadeal 02-28-2013 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkyKing02 (Post 57885678)
my gosh...i'm still waiting for my order! this is taking forever!

Why are you handling dog nuts in your picture

SkyKing02 03-01-2013 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by damnthatsadeal (Post 57903848)
Why are you handling dog nuts in your picture

what the heck is a dog nut?

jordanz12 03-01-2013 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkyKing02 (Post 57908220)
what the heck is a dog nut?

Dough nut = Dog nut (missing the u and h).

damnthatsadeal 03-01-2013 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jordanz12 (Post 57908298)
Dough nut = Dog nut (missing the u and h).

Winner and repped!:woot:

SkyKing02 03-04-2013 09:15 PM

anyone still waiting for their order to arrive? i'm still waiting for mine!!

fyrusher 03-05-2013 11:26 AM

Mine shipped on 2/23, but tracking# only shows " Electronic info received" as of today.

nstarz 03-05-2013 12:59 PM

I ordered mine by the ebay link, smaller version a while back and got mines.

SkyKing02 03-05-2013 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by fyrusher (Post 58009130)
Mine shipped on 2/23, but tracking# only shows " Electronic info received" as of today.

same here...over a week now...

fyrusher 03-06-2013 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by SkyKing02 (Post 58012668)
same here...over a week now...


i suspect this is a scam. Seller is not going to reply anyone's email. Newegg doesn't provide help at all. I have filed claim through paypal .

SkyKing02 03-06-2013 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by fyrusher (Post 58032022)
i suspect this is a scam. Seller is not going to reply anyone's email. Newegg doesn't provide help at all. I have filed claim through paypal .

the tracking shows up now...it's in Cali right now...so we/i might get it before friday.

Dingaling 03-06-2013 12:47 PM

His stock probably was depleted. SD effect. Got mine tho...

SkyKing02 03-06-2013 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Dingaling (Post 58037520)
His stock probably was depleted. SD effect. Got mine tho...

work? with ios or droid?

TheMaxSeven 03-07-2013 09:39 AM

Just got mine today.

Electronic Shipping Info Received
February 23, 2013

Delivered
March 07, 2013, 9:40 am

JLDF 03-07-2013 04:07 PM

I got mine about a week ago. It works great. I couldn't be happier with it. I downloaded the free version of torque for android and then decided to purchase the full version. Works great for reading codes, clearing them, and monitoring/logging lots of vehicle info.

I liked it so much I bought 2 more off eBay from a different seller for future gifts. Way better than the $80 code readers you can buy in stores and one of these with the full torque app is less than $20. Awesome deal, if they keep working - this is one of my favorite purchases of the year!
Tested on a Chevy and a Dodge, works great on both.

ee_engineer 03-07-2013 06:38 PM

haven't gotten mine or any communication from the seller. Newegg will be hearing about this

umrdyldo 03-08-2013 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ee_engineer (Post 58072318)
haven't gotten mine or any communication from the seller. Newegg will be hearing about this

Do you not have a tracking number? I just got mine and don't remember getting a shipping notice.

ee_engineer 03-08-2013 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by umrdyldo (Post 58088184)
Do you not have a tracking number? I just got mine and don't remember getting a shipping notice.

I got a tracking number on the 23rd, the only status has been "Electronic Info received"

SkyKing02 03-09-2013 03:03 PM

mine was delivered but i never got it!!!! argh!!!!

xWarMECHx 04-01-2013 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Richardsonke (Post 57729046)
Not trying to TC, but I found a smaller, cheaper one on dinodirect. I have no idea if it's as good as the one OP linked to, though.

EDIT: url was blocked. Don't want to get in trouble with the mods, but if you were looking for it, it's on DinoDirect's "groupbuy" site.


DinoDirect are such scammers. I didn't receive my order at all. They are trying to put the blame on me saying I didn't enter my street address at all and the order was shipped to just my city and to "check with them" (LOL). It's total BS anyway because my "print invoice" clearly shows my full address, and also my PayPal transaction shows it in full and confirmed. They tried offering me a "half refund" since its "half my fault".

PayPal dispute to the rescue at least. Should be an easy win.

Richardsonke 04-01-2013 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by xWarMECHx (Post 58587206)
DinoDirect are such scammers. I didn't receive my order at all. They are trying to put the blame on me saying I didn't enter my street address at all and the order was shipped to just my city and to "check with them" (LOL). It's total BS anyway because my "print invoice" clearly shows my full address, and also my PayPal transaction shows it in full and confirmed. They tried offering me a "half refund" since its "half my fault".

PayPal dispute to the rescue at least. Should be an easy win.

The EXACT same thing happened to me. Luckily my post office is nice and called me to get my full address. They seem to have some issues with their PayPal integration. Good luck with the dispute.

lostsub 04-02-2013 11:19 AM

Still waiting on mine from DinoDirect also. My account says shipped on March 8th. They did send a notice that there would be a delay (after sending me a notice that it had been shipped) so I don't know what's going on, but I'm not worried yet. I know China Air Post can be pretty slow sometimes.
Of course I wish that I could use it now, but I will give it another week before disputing with Paypal.

lostsub 04-10-2013 05:06 PM

OK...I just filed a Paypal dispute with Dinodirect because I never received the item, In fact I got conflicting emails saying both the item had shipped, then another later in the day (March 8) that it hadn't been shipped. I paid late February so I had to file a dispute because after 45 days you are out of luck. I got in under the wire. If you used Dinodirect and didn't receive anything you better open dispute right away.

Sharky3 04-18-2013 02:50 PM

Finally got mine today it sure took long enough.


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