Whole Foods: Organic Whole Chickens $1.99 Per Pound
 

February 22nd only.

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How much do these usually go for? Considering walking over to WF and grabbing a few.

don't know there reg price but for comparison
Trader Joe > $2.49 per pound

I buy them all the time, they vary from $3.50 a pound to $5

None of the chickens they sell in IL are water retained or ever frozen.
Once you start eating and preparing the chicken they sell you, you can never go back to that other garbage bleached out chicken meat, gag!

Enjoy!

If only there was a WF around here. That's a great price!

You can't compare Tj's to whole foods unless it's your first week of trying to be organic, traders is garbage :) and I'm pretty sure Tj's does not have organic whole chickens for 2.50 per pound.

TJ's DOES have organic whole chickens. Costco also has organic whole chickens in 2 packs for $2.29/lb. But as another poster mentioned they're not processed the same as the Whole Foods ones. This is an excellent price. Looks like I have to go to Whole Foods today and load up on chickens!

looks like im going to whole foods!

Chickens
 

I bought 4 this morning, about $6.75 - $9 a chicken depending on the size you pick. Just to compare, I noted Winn Dixie had regular chickens advertised on sale for $1.19 a pound in their sale flyer, not organic just factory chicken.

interesting its just chicken!

Ah ...no

give me a $4.99 rotisserie from costco any day over this

yeah it really is

yeah, sure, access is the key word have you seen these farms? - organic is another BS way for companies to make money.

Kroger sometimes has chicken for 99c/lb. But I think that's non-organic, "low-quality" chicken, compared to the WF chicken.

I once was looking up what terms like "cage-free" or "free-range" or "outdoor access" meant. Apparently, not very much. e.g., it looks like if the chicken has spent even one second of its life "outdoors", it can qualify as having been raised as "free-range".


http://greenliving.nationalgeogra...-2890.html

Completely irrelevant and useless post but... I hate Whole Foods.
So expensive here in Boston.

Junk food is so much cheaper.

mcdonalds has 20 mcnuggets for 5 bucks... all day, everyday

Organic is not equal to wild caught or free range

(1)Buy whole then either waste lots parts with high saturated fat or eat them at your risk
(2)Animal Proten - Problematic based on China Study
(3)Poultry meat 3 times risk for certain cancer compared with meat

Pass me kale/brocolli/apple please since I want a good-looking belly and run 5K at 90 years old! -:)

True of the 'free-range' label, but supposedly the 'organic' label imposes different standards of outdoor access.

No deal, the head and legs are missing so its not technically a WHOLE chicken, talk about false advertising.

I guess those are inorganic chickens... i.e. not of biological origin i.e. not an animal or vegetable.

Inorganic Chicken!!! Perfect for all of your vegetarian and vegan friends!! Marketing is great

Seriously, those costco rotisseries are tasty :drool:

I agree, sooo tasty.

i think you'll end up looking like that character underneath a bridge at this rate.

To be fair most of the leg is included, just not feet and the head really doesn't have all that much good meat on it.. the only piece I miss out on is the tongue and there really isn't much there either.

I believe you can get the neck and guts if you want... I don't think chicken necks are very good and I only ever use the guts to make soup and even then I proabaly just rather use broth...

I know you were joking but you can get whole chickens some places but I think a real whole chicken is over rated.

BTW I think these are good chickens... I think they are the air chilled process which results in less watery chicken thus even at a higher price per pound you get a similar amount of actual meat vs water/brine.

literally 50-75% more meat than what you get on a walmart or other grocery brand rotisserie, too

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AMEN!:wave:

You want the feathers too?

I work at a Kroger in Virginia Beach that literally has a Whole Foods in it's parking lot, a Trader Joe's across the street, and a Fresh Market a block away and can honestly tell you that Whole Foods is way overrated!

haters gona hate.

Whole foods organic chicken is amazing. I lived in Europe for half of my life and chicken there tastes like...chicken should taste. Chicken here from places like Kroger is nothing more than protein in meat form, it has absolutely no taste which is why you have to put so many spices/sauces etc. Real chicken meat is very flavorful. The meat that comes closest to what Whole Foods sells is the organic costco meat. Don't let your political views influence a good deal like this.. It's like crazy liberals going into gun threads and talking trash, you are doing the same thing except your comments aren't being deleted.

:lol:

Thanks for the laugh.

BTW, I'd do a little research and better inform yourself. :cheers:

Ugh, wish there was something on chicken breast--then I'd go crazy!

Do they take food stamps?

.....and you know the reason they aren't deleted....give you one guess.;)

nah TJ chicken is just as good as whole foods chicken

TJ meats are no good. Once started buying local (organic or not matters less), how they treat/process meats matters more to me. Most of the WF stuff comes from lot better and usually local processors, atleast here in our area. Wish had one closer to home.

They have to take food stamps by law.

I've read some horror stories in the last few years regarding some of the huge chicken farms and the feed, anti-biotics and hormones fed to these birds, among other things. While I'm no tree hugger, I did buy five chickens this morning and shop at WF when I can afford it....great store.

good deal. I'd be willing to pay this price for typical krogers, foster farms, tyson etc. so this is good for organic chicken, regardless of the legitimacy behind the label. However, after moving back to CA, I get my chicken steamy, hot, and fresh (freshly slaughtered chicken is very warm) from the local poultry butcher, and it's never refrigerated or gets anywhere near a refrigerator as its taken home immediately for cooking. I can actually see them in the back slit the chicken, drain the blood out, de-feather, and put it in a bag for me. Makes an amazing chicken soup broth and the natural flavor from the meat is amazing. No seasoning required.

Google: "Fresh Poultry" to find local poultry butcher places. There are quite a few if you're in the LA area. Once you go fresh, you'll never go back to refrigerated chicken.

Disclaimer: The smell could make you gag if you're sensitive. Oh, and the last cries of the chickens before they are slaughtered...watch out for that.

I only eat Live caught chickens that have lived to ripe old age and die in their sleep.

Impossible in the US because a 100% natural/wild chicken takes over a year to mature and ripen to an age where it's ready to be slaughtered. Not economical at all to feed the millions in this nation who demand their chicken nuggets NOW. That's why nowadays they can push chickens to maturity within a month with injections. Gotta love'em roid chickens. Old chicken (popular for it's savory taste) takes even longer to wait until it ripens to that old age flavor range. Source: great grandparents who've farmed most of their life in the country side (just to feed themselves)

:P

This is a great deal, but be mindful that WF was busted for selling GM foods w/o infoming the public(even tho their chicken is great IMO). And for those people who are saying "chicken is chicken," here's what you guys were eating
http://worldtruth.tv/fda-finally-...g-arsenic/

P.S. I'd take Trader Joes over WF any day of the week.

whole foods >> trader joes

are those chickens made in china as well as they have admitted most of their stuff comes from china including oragnic....http://www.wholefoodsmarket.com/w...ds-to-wjla

Clearly, some of us actually care about what we consume and put in out bodies.
For those of you who care, educate yourself with books and documentaries.
Read The Omnivores Dilemma, Eating Animals and Farm Sanctuary.
Watch Forks Over Knives, Food Inc. and King Corn.
Btw that water in your chicken is known as "fecal soup".
It appears the marketing and propaganda are working...Chicken is chicken.

yeah, you do a little research yourself and figure out why small guys dont get organic certification (even though their food quality is 100x better than mass produced meat, paultry or veggies). Big guys smack a label on it and charge 2-3x, USDA gets their fees, you pay out of your pocket. This system is broken and i do not support it.


The fact that you put a government label on it (USDA - the biggest enemy of our food chain lol) does not say anything about quality, there are ways to get around regulation. stop living in lala land.

They have chicken thighs for lesser price than this all year long... best deal you can get organic or inorganic doesnt matter

I know you're probably not going to look at the actual science but organic offers no benefits to the environment or consumer.


If you'd like to make specific claims we can examine them but the science is in, organic is a scam.

@ctbear where in la do u go for that? im in la as well n would love to check out ur spot!

Popeye's has buy a 3 piece meal and get a 2 piece free. What I do is get one deal. Eat 2 pieces of chicken and sides on the first day. On the second day I put one piece of chicken in the oven, and make my own instant mashed potatoes. Two more pieces left for the third day, I add some homemade french fires and hush puppies, plus Californian Sweet Tea. ;) This beats Costco, Whole Foods, Trader Joe's, KFC, Chruches, and even Boston Market.

yeah because i want to consume and have my body deal digesting/filtering all of those growth hormones, pesticides and chicken-eating-chicken/sick meat.

no thanks.

organic is not a scam. the rules are actually really strict. are there ways to subvert the system and fool the inspectors? im sure there is. but imagine what happens at the factories who fool the inspectors and they DONT have the stringent rules.


here is a link to the rules:
http://www.ams.usda.gov/AMSv1.0/g...nopgeninfo
http://www.ams.usda.gov/AMSv1.0/NOPConsumers



o_0 only @ slickdeals.

poultry so sultry :) :eat:

Hello.

If you're closer to downtown then this one is popular:

http://www.yelp.com/biz/shang-lee...os-angeles

But since I've moved more east into the valleys this is my new spot:

http://www.yelp.com/biz/c-a-l-poultry-rosemead

Feel the body temp of the chicken to gauge freshness :wave:

Ok,, well that's not quite a specific claim but I will play.

I challenge you to name a single growth hormone you're worried about in us poultry production. Go ahead.


I challenge you to explain why the pesticides used in organic farming are any more or less scary than synthetic ones used in conventional farming.


Chickens are generally fed chicken feed. Please make a more specific claim.

Whole Foods Organic Fryer Chickens normally go for $3.99/lb.

Could someone without a pro- or anti- Whole Foods/organic bias try one of these and compare it against a chicken at Krogers/Costco/Walmart?

I'd be interested to hear if you really do think it has more meat, is tastier, or noticeably anything else. If you can't really tell or just aren't sure that's perfectly valid too.

Wouldn't it matter more how you cook it?

I have compared many different chickens as I usually 'slow boil' them whole. This adds no marinade/roasting to affect the flavor.

Krogers/Costo/Walmart is un-edible this way, the 'smelly' chicken smell is very obvious and would need to be masked with some sauce.

The whole food chickens are heavily dependent on 'when' you buy them, if they've been sitting on the shelf for more then 3-4 days, it barely passable. If you grab them the first day, turns out ok but now as good as farmers market. Real fresh chicken will not any any hint of smell/odor when raw or boiled

The best are from the farmers market where they kill/process just before selling them.

The fact is i don't know what the hell they are doing on these farms! That is unsettling to me. In the case of organic/local growers and farms, you do at least know the minimum guidelines are being met (link to above pdf), and you can actually find out.

So, when possible, Ill buy chickens/fish/cows that I at least know aren't tainted with drugs whose only purpose is to fatten them up, or 'cure' them of an ailment that if otherwise not dealt with would result in the animal not being able to be sold.

All of these drugs, hormones, gmo'd foods, pesticides etc, have consequences and side effects apparent on the animal, and can easily pass down to the next consumer (us, or in the case of GMO feed, the animal).

I dont even take over the counter (much less prescription) drugs, why would i want to injest them in my food?

And this mindset expands beyond chickens, it applies heavily to milk production, seafood, meats, GMO'd veggies....

Not sure why you would have a problem with someone who thinks this way ^. YouDoYou.


Plus at this price, its about the cost of the non organic chicken... so whats the gripe again?

Just returned from Costco - was $2.49/lb btw. This Whole Foods one is free range and better, IMHO

I've had all types of chicken as posted earlier.

Costco organic chicken comes closest to this chicken, but it does have a good amount of water injected into it. However, it has a good amount of taste if you are grilling it/cooking it in the oven. I usually put the chicken in an oven safe glass pan, then put it in for however long it needs.

Kroger chicken, not organic, is very bland. I usually layer it with spices/paprika/herb d'provence to give it some taste. There's very little base flavor in this chicken compared to costco. Edit: I've never tried organic Kroger chicken, so can't comment on that one.

Whole foods organic chicken: buy it only on sale(so rare...). It's very similar to costco chicken, but I don't think it has as much water in it, so you get more chicken per pound for the price. I rarely buy it because I am a student, but I usually go with the Costco chicken because the price is always relatively low.

I am not very much into this, but have a question. Maybe a stupid one. But can pesticides be used in organic farming? If so they can't be called Organic right?

Organic in the US is supposed to be non-GMO and non- chemical pesticides. They can use organic pesticides , liek t i have a jug of the stuff next to me right now, organic soybean oil. The problem is they can use organic canola oil (rapeseed oil) which is a GMO and spray that on the food and call it organic pesticides. BEst way is to grow your own food in your basement with LEDs or HIDs IMO

Find a local farmer. Buy real chicken that's ran around a farm yard eating cow shit, insects, worms, etc and gets exercise and sunlight. Yes you can taste the difference.

$2 isn't bad. Pretty sure WF buys from Amish farms. If not, it's "industrial organic" sourced through UNF.

How weasley. Hormone use in poultry production in the United states is banned. Repeat: there are no hormones being injected into conventional poultry. Zero. Nadal. Zip. Zilch.

Again what makes you thing the pesticides (scary word, right) used in organic farming are any safer than conventional?

GMO food is perfectly safe. If you don't understand it and fear it because of ignorance you should either seek the answers or stop talking like you know something the world's top food scientists do not.


You don't take medicine, eh? Natural selection has nasty things in mind for you.


Yes pesticides can be used in organic farming. This is a common misconception that organic farmers do nothing to correct. In fact the pesticides they use are less effective than synthetics, and are often applied *more*!

There is no such thing as a non chemical pesticide. The word you are looking for is non synthetic. Pretty much everything is a chemical.

Gmo is fine.

Regarding Poultry rules, the US has to step in and stop poutrly farms from simply shooting up every chicken in a coop. Up until now, antibiotics have been part of the normal diet for your run of the mill chickens.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/201...ators.html

ah yes antibotics, i only touched on sick animals in my reply to mage, but yes id like to avoid antobiotics as much as possible.

Did you even read the article? Do you really believe there is someone injecting very chicken in every coop? Do you know how many needles and medicine and personnel that would take? Why are you spreading false information?

FTA:
Antibiotics are used sparingly in U.S. chicken production, and only if they are approved by the FDA, said Tom Super, vice president of communications for the National Chicken Council in Washington.

good to know.

conventional pesticides are some REALLY really nasty chemicals, so much so theyve had to ban use of many different varieties over the years. Alot of growers are able to produce SOME foods without pesticides at all, depending on how the produce it.

yes, because they are always right. plus how can we even know the long term effects? we are already seeing some of these effects. what is UNSAFE about not eating GMO foods? i prefer to eat something that hasnt been tinkered with, is that ok with you?

I'm ready. I've lasted this long. Ill die soon enough, God's Plan, and all that right?
You keep eating all those antibiotics so nature can build up resistance. That'll work out long term.

Again this comes down to personal choice. If you think you dont have a problem with GMO and antiboitics and hormones in meat (not poultry, thank you for that fact), thats your choice, go for it. But again at this price, why wouldnt you buy the organic variety??

Dude, that sparingly quote is from the big chicken growers, you think they would say 'we can save a few bucks by just putting antibiotics into the feed of every chicken'. Trust me, if they think they can keep a few more chickens healthy (well, none of the chickens are really healthy, but at least alive), they will put the antibiotics into the feed for all of them.

There is a second level of chicken (costco rot., foster farms, chipotle), that specifically state there are no antibiotics or hormones. These are the middle cost between low end Kroger, and these WF ones.

There is ignorance and there is arrogance and the latter is just as plentiful in human beings. As for GMO food being perfectly safe, like all things the jury is still out for the long-term. To simply declare GMOs to be safe in an absolute sense is silly. Care to tell us when were GMOs introduced into the food supply on a large scale? Let's give it a generation to see what the outcome is to both human beings and the environment.

Still, for all our arrogance and entitlement, nature will always win. About that GMO corn:

‘Mounting Evidence’ of Bug-Resistant Corn Seen by EPA [bloomberg.com]

Scientists say it's ok? Well how many scientists said so and so drug was ok before so and so drug was recalled or new side effects appeared? I'm not anti-science and I'm not declaring that GMO food is bad. My point being is that time will tell the real effects to humans and the environment no matter what 'top scientists'. We're already trying to figure out why certain diseases have skyrocketed and allergies in both adults and children is just one example.

We live in a chemically drenched world and most surely that has caused and will continue to cause many side effects. Of course each item on its own is declared safe by 'top scientists' and the Govt. Collectively and long term however...:

As for medicine, we've already done quite a number on ourselves by over medicating ourselves and injecting them into our food supply. There is some irony in that humanity might be medicating and cleaning itself to death. Antibiotic this and antibacterial that leads to serious long term consequences. Of course 'top scientists' were not able to see the long term issues with something as simple as antibiotics...

Rise of superbugs threatens antibiotic crisis [guardian.co.uk]

So don't worry, natural selection has nasty things in mind for all of us, the ignorant and the arrogant. There is no real escape.

Bigger picture, when was this Antibiotic restriction implemented again? Why now?

A decade before the restrictions, 'top scientists' may have declared them to be totally safe. You might have been posting how antibiotics in chickens are perfectly safe because so and so declared it so and the government allowed it... Just food for thought.

Don't forget you are paying a lot for the bone as well. I suggest getting the boneless organic chicken thighs at Costco. Very good straight from the grill!

There will always be an ignorant but loud group of people who fear what they don't understand, especially if it challenges their belief systems.


See anti-vaxxers, anti-gmo people, anti-fluroide people, creationists and the alt-med people. The organic apologists are just as hard headed and anti - evidence.

this should be in FP, in for 4

Thanks for posting

Do they have a butcher shop there? Do they cut and give the chicken?

You are being just as loud without any long term evidence to say that absolutely so and so is safe. "It wasn't until the 90's that the United States Department of Agriculture approved a GMO crop for commercial use; the crop was a tomato that was genetically altered to be firmer longer than an average tomato."

So GMOs have been in our food supply for barely two decades on a large commercial basis. So the evidence you tout is at best that old. Not even a generation has passed. Barely two decades on, super beetles are developing that adapted to the GMO corn. Time will tell if there are long term changes and effects to humans and the environment and what they are.

See my example about antibiotic restrictions above. These restrictions have been implemented just recently. MRSA being one of the reasons and after talking to some doctors, they envision a scenario where a third of the population unable to fight off these super bug strains will die. This is not some wacko conspiracy apocalyptic vision, it's science as you say. Now a decade ago, evidence may have stated that it's perfectly safe to use antiobiotics. Here are we are now. So a decade ago you might have said anti-antiobiotic people are ignorant, fearful and anti-evidence. There is such a thing as long term evidence and something like altering a major part of the food supply certainly will need long term evidence to make any absolute declarations.

See also the UN Report on man made chemicals.

I'm not anti-science, but I also understand that things like science and evidence need to be taken into larger context as well.

Super beetles everybody run!!! SUPER BEETLES

This has nothing to do with organic chickens (ps, I don't look for organic chickens) but I found it quite interesting.

Now I'm not anti-flu shot and to keep this in context the story below is not related to the flu shot, so anti-flu shot people need to relax, it was for H1N1. Though there is some sort of lesson here in that just because a pharma company and their scientists says it's safe and governments abide... Some irony that the wealthier European nations (per capita) received their H1N1 vaccines first and now many children have been affected with narcolepsy:

Of course, it's always good to know if 'top scientests' are truly independent or not. Big business knows how to work that angle too.

The super power of the super bugs, you ask? Well, they can eat a certain version of Monsanto crops they couldn't previously. Pretty super. I'm not too afraid.

Crap, sad I missed this. Should have been FP

when asked to cut, the butcher said they would charge the normal price and not the 1.99/lb price

Wow, yes I did know that. Facts are fun aren't they? Context however is quite important. Tell me, have GMOs have been in wide scale commercial production since the 1800s? I would love to hear your argument based on the fact that genetic manipulation has been around since the 1800s and the conclusions you are able to draw from that for the year 2013. So genetic manipulation has been around since the 1800s, therefore...?

Context my friend, facts in context. Otherwise facts can sometimes be utterly useless.

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So barely two decades. But let's talk about the 1800's if you like.

People are seriously getting worked up over some Chickens? really ?

5 nugs

Damnit! Only if they opened until 10, i get off of work at 9..

Organic vegetables I get it. Person can think they're eating healthy their whole lives, only to find out the pesticides from their fruit and veggies gave them cancer.

As for organic chicken? Wha... :unsure:

For anyone who thinks Organic is healthier, I've got some other great miracle cures that you might want. They're very, very expensive, but you obviously can't put a price on someone telling you something is healthy, right?

so you would rather not eat a vegetable that has pesticides on it than a chicken which has been pumped full with antibiotics?

Nice find!! I usually don't buy whole chickens from them because of the price, but this is a great deal. Thanks and repped

How do you know I'm not going to look at the actual science? That's a bizarre statement to make. I have an advanced degree, am well-versed in reading scientific studies and have first hand experience helping operate and run a small, family run organic farm.

So, I'm happy to read whatever links you'd like to provide which scientifically prove that organic offers "no benefit to the environment or consumer." My experience in both reading the literature and first-hand experience has not shared that conclusion but I'm open to reading an alternative viewpoint.

Most of the intelligent people I know seem to concur that organic produce and meat is better, but how much better - and if that increase is worth the frequently substantial price premium - seems to be the intelligent question and smart people seem to arrive at different conclusions.

It is $1.99 PER POUND, not $1.99 a whole chicken. WF sells it by weight and I believe Costco and Sam's do the same, no head & feet.

Can you give me any links to support the fruit and vegetable cancer story you just told?

Go local and pastured over factory farmed organic. Better than conventional, yes, but still produced at CAFO's in environments that are a small step above normal conventional producers like Purdue.

Eatwild.com has many good local sources.

grilled up two last night, they were delicious.

Missed out :(
Closest whole foods to me is 45 minutes away.

TJ organic chicken is 5.99 per pound and Costco is the same price. Regular chicken is 2.29-2.99 per pound.

Thanks OP!

In a nutshell, industrial produced chicken is pretty much the most horrifying thing you can eat. Not saying the factory organic stuff is much better, but a chicken from a local farm that has been raised in a natural environment and not rendered on an assembly line will have much better taste, better quality fat, and a lot less bacteria. About half of factory chickens are loaded with at least salmonella. Only around 5% of organic chickens are. Heck, in asia they kill and eat raw free range chickens. Yes, chicken sushi.

GMO's are safe? Maybe, but in reality every single scrap of food science is paid for by someone. When its monsanto wanting to sell roundup-ready crop seed and farmers wanting to use them because they're enormously convenient, I think you can guess where the money comes from.

In the last 50 years, our medical and food science folks told us:

- Cigarettes were good for us. Celebrity doctors lined up to be paid to shill a particular brand. Scientists even made a special cig for asthma sufferers. Bet that worked great.
- Stop eating salt, saturated fat, MSG, eat lots of grains and fruit juice. All science that was recently proven to be completely upside down.
- Stop eating animal fats and use transfats, crisco and margarine. That one move probably killed millions.
- Take statins and blood pressure pills. Except then long term studies showed them to have no benefits, but plenty of side effects.

Here's some fun stuff...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glyphosate

"On two occasions, the United States EPA has caught scientists deliberately falsifying test results at research laboratories hired by Monsanto to study glyphosate"

The problem with GMO is in part that the insects and bacteria are becoming resistant to the mods, and in part that the roundup ready gmo allows free spraying of a harmful chemical in wide and large doses. Since the industrial chicken eats the gmo products and lives on the farm which has significant levels of these chemicals in the soil and in available plants, insects and so forth...they're in your chicken.

Truth is, we have absolutely zero idea as to the long term effects of genetic modification and the related issues. Considering as in the link above, Monsanto has been repeatedly forced to stop saying roundup is safe, and they've been found to falsify data on studies. Now, to me if there is nothing wrong, there isnt any reason to lie and cheat. If you're lying and cheating, then something isn't quite right.

Its all our fault though. We demand cheap beautiful gigantic fruit, vegetables and meats. Those are best produced by shoving as many animals into as small a space as possible, blasting them with as much medications as possible to keep them alive and growing at a rapid rate, and then processing them at high speed on assembly lines.

This allows us to service an enormous world population, most of which don't live near the source of their food.

I buy my meats from a local farm. They raise them free range with quality feeds, no feedlots are used, the animals are rendered by a local small business who portions and freezes them for me. Cost is about 2-3x what you'd pay in a supermarket for industrial meats. The cuts of meat are smaller and not loaded with marbling, but tasty and I can drive 20 minutes and look at the animals and how they live.

I buy vegetables from a local farm who grows like its the 1700's. They use only compost, and use companion plantings and natural pest control through beneficial insects and so forth. No sprays, GMO's, only heritage seeds, and the land they're using has never had chemicals, pesticides or chemical fertilizers used on it. The cost is slightly higher than supermarket organic but not hideously so.

Despite all the "so-and-so said its fine" warnings, take a look at the obesity and cancer rates through the last ~70 years. Major events during those time periods are the adoption of high volume industrial farming and rendering, genetic modification, the dietary change to heavy corn/soy/canola/soybean oil...all GMO, the avoidance of meat, salt and fat in exchange for sugars, processed starches and processed grains and the adoption of lots of prescription meds for "pre" conditions.

I'm not sure which one of those is responsible for the rise in heart disease, cancer and obesity, so I'm hitting all of them. No factory food. Whole foods only. Simply cooked. No prescription meds. No GMO. And I eat like people did in the late 1800's.

How does it work? I started this approach 18 months ago, coupled with walking for 30-60 minutes a day, 5 days a week. I was morbidly obese then, with diabetes, high blood pressure, and a host of other unpleasant associated issues. Weird because I was eating supposedly 'healthy' foods.

On this new approach, I lost 84lbs, and no longer have diabetes or high blood pressure. I eat no grains or starches or sugars, use only coconut oil and butter, eat a high saturated fat diet (close to 50%) and enjoy all the quality meats, whole vegetables and whole fruits I want to eat. Every one of my blood test results is perfect.

So I don't know which factor in my dietary change gave me the results or if it was a combination of them, but I can assure you that a chicken shot up with who-knows-what, living on a diet of stuff that is grossly unhealthy, jammed in to the point where the ammonia from their feces causes their legs to burn and malform, and then torn apart at high speed on an assembly line is not something I'd recommend anyone eat unless price is your only object.

Good luck with that, as bad health is more expensive than good food.

Q. Are chickens labeled "Kosher," "free-range," "organic," or "natural" lower inSalmonella bacteria? A. FSIS does not know of any valid scientific information that shows that any specific type of chicken has more or less Salmonella bacteria than other poultry.

Q. Are chickens labeled "Kosher," "free-range," "organic," or "natural" lower inSalmonella bacteria? A. FSIS does not know of any valid scientific information that shows that any specific type of chicken has more or less Salmonella bacteria than other poultry.

Did you get a Coke?

Here's a video about some poor conditions chickens endure: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hks86Xxx1ZE

This is nothing compared to the videos I've seen with farmers that work with McDonald's. Their chickens are housed in even worse conditions. At those farms, the chickens are so bloated they cannot hold their own weight and collapse.

I've never eaten organic chicken vs chicken raised in a factory side by side, so it's hard for me to compare. I can say that the chicken at Fred Meyer's is not as good as Top Foods who slow roasts them.

http://online.liebertpub.com/doi/....2010.0566

"Salmonella prevalences in fecal samples were 5.6% (10/180) and 38.8% (93/240) from organic and conventional farms, respectively."

Feed samples tested also showed ~30% contaminated for regular chickens, less than 5% for organic.

That would be a loud "You were wrong" gonging sound, coming from the cafeteria of the Monsanto building you work in. :lol:

I'm encouraging you to eat as much gmo food and industrial chicken as you can manage.

I've got no beef in the organic or non-organic argument, I do both when it suits me... But the people quoting food scientists here, well food scientists care about yield, spoilage, food color and appearance, nutrition, volume to feed population growth. They don't care about cancer or long-term health effects, that's for medical doctors and scientists, and they definitely don't care about taste...

The organic label can be misleading but I wouldn't call it BS. Buying organic chicken means the chicken was fed only organic feed (which means avoiding GMOs), not administered antibiotics, and not kept in a cage. The problem though is that the feed is usually corn and soybeans. Something like flaxseed would be better (due to high omega-3 fat content) but would be more expensive.

However, as others have mentioned, organic and free-range labels don't give you much more than that. Most of the time, such chickens don't get any outdoor access. The best chicken is pastured or pasture-raised, which means the chickens eat grass, bugs, and grubs on pasture (obviously :)) with some supplemental high quality feed. Chickens are omnivores so that would be their natural diet. Such chicken runs about $6/lb in the Bay Area though, but I do try to buy it as much as I can.

I really enjoyed reading the book "Real Food: What to Eat and Why" by Nina Planck for those interested in the topic. :)

chicken eat grass?

Yep, sure do!

i can see they eat grass on youtube. but i dont think it's the enjoyable food for them. only a few started to eat, but most of them are really scratching through grass for other stuffs. chicken are wild birds. they will eat anything. but surely they wont enjoy it. they even eat rubberbands too. of course they will die after that. their ingestive system can't digest them.

misleading or BS - same thing to me. The reality is - organic became a big business with the only self interest and it is to make more money, like in anything else the end result is clear.

it costs a lot of $$ and time commitment for a farmer to grow food naturally, they take risk and invest their lives in this business. If it costs farmer 6$ to raise one chicken why would he/she sell it for less??. Those who have huge profit margins can put stuff on sale for 50-75% off and they are still making money. think of any real good quality stuff and has it ever gone on sale?

back to this poor chicken. they created regulations to throw dust in the eyes of consumers. Go visit the farm and see the process yourself.

Hehe, yea, it's probably not their food of choice.

great movie and one of the solutions to the problem.

I don't completely disagree. Horizon Organic, owned by Dean Foods, is the bottom of the barrel in the organic industry and is a perfect example. Their milk comes from grain-fed cows raised in poor conditions and is also ultrapasteurized. Hence, I don't buy their products. I have read some books that even suggest conventional non-organic milk that has been regularly pasteurized is a better choice than Horizon Organic milk.

However, there are good companies out there who really do care (Numi Tea comes to mind). Of course even these companies want to make money; they're not going to provide good quality food for free.

numi tea? come on. Fair trade is another BS proposition with the only goal to rip off more people, this time world wide. Its part of the "globalization" process where rich get richer and poor get poorer.

They throw these big words (fair trade, organic, democracy, no child left behind) like dust in our eyes, great example come to mind - Chase credit card "Freedom". Credit or debt is the furthers thing from freedom you can get. It is a slap in the face of humanity.

How about a local dairy here called Organic Pastures [organicpastures.com]? Are they also ripping people off? Do you trust any organic company?

Yes, in the summer i go to a farm / farm market on weekends , they dont have any fancy certifications, i come / buy food and talk to the people who work there, who get their hands dirty and actually raise the food. In the winter its harder, but as you can guess i am trying to avoid anything mass produced. There are certain limitations in this modern world though.

i avoid dairy products, organic or not. For milk we switched to almond. unfortunately good cheese is my weakness and i'll have it once in a while.

These chickens taste no better than many other non-organic chickens at 1/2 the price. I got one a while back and that's the conclusion I came to. I don't care about organic, but I do care that these animals have a good life before they are slaughtered, and organic has little to do with that.

And BTW, chickens are not vegetarian, so chickens that are grain fed are not being raised naturally.

Why is that unfortunate? If you can find the right cheese (not Kraft), I see no harm in good cheese [mercola.com].

because i avoid dairy products in general. dig a little into the effects of dairy on health.

I've digged. The problem isn't dairy, it's industrial dairy. Saying all dairy is bad for health is akin to saying all fats are bad. There is a difference between raw milk from grass fed cows and ultrapasteurized milk from grain-fed cows.

i just ate half a costco rotisserie and washed it down with about 8 oz of industrialized Mayfield milk.

wonder if i'll survive the night... :omg:

R I P :lol:

Try some bacon ice cream for dessert to round it up.

Does BK still do those bacon sundaes? I'll have to wait, regardless - I'm doing the Healthywage 10% challenge and have already lost 11-12%. gotta keep it off for 3-4 more months!

Not sure, never tried it, but just the thought of it...:vomit:

i believe fresh and easy had chicken breast / theigh for 1.99/lb i forgot if they are organic or not

If you look at the label of the cooked chicken at Costco it says DEXTRIN

Dextrin is sugar

It is injected to chicken before it arrives to Costco

Never eat chicken wth injected sugar. You are a potential candidate for diabeties.

the whole idea of humans need to drink cows milk is absurd. you see, cows milk is designed by nature to provide a calf with boat load of stuff for it to grow to a few hundred pounds in a short period of time. Do we humans need to drink that? In fact we are the only species in nature drinking milk of another species.

How about Ca2+ you ask? Another BS, enforced by milk industry lobbyists and their cohorts at FDA. You can get plenty of Ca2+ from a variety of plants without problem. There is no need for humans to dring milk. period.

need??? how about want?

i love milk and cheese and things made with both of those things and sometimes together!!!

:eek::eek::eek:

Nature also gave us lactose tolerance. Mercola? The vaccine idiot? Jeez.

Cats love cow milk.

please quote your source that the chickens are injected with dextrin

Perhaps because we're the only species capable of domesticating other animals? Also the Bible makes several references to the value of "milk and honey." Given these two facts (and many others), it's impossible for me to agree that humans drinking cow's milk is "absurd," as you put it.

so i do it because i can is an ok logic? or because a book written by humans and for humans says so? George Carlin comes to mind.. what happened to thinking for yourself?

Since you brought up bible - did not we have plant based diet in the early days of creation? I.e. essentially vegan? which means we were built to live off plants, no animal products/byproducts necessary?

Anyone know if they are going to bring back the $7.99 chicken wing buckets?

No. If that were the case we would not need incisors or canines.

you have the ability to survive when needed. the rest is up to your consciousness.

we are no longer in the survival mode, technology and science when applied consciously can provide enough for everybody without need to destroy ourselves and our planet.

i dunno about you, but i just destroyed the crapper here at work. i did some damage to that rotisserie.

actually, it was a clean stool, but i just wanted to troll your ridiculous posts some more

i will end this with the quote: " Men, think in herds, they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly and one by one".

Humanity is one big insane herd in full on self destruction mode, its been this way for a long time. Everything comes to an end.

Maybe, but the chicken wing bucket deal largely ended with the superbowl.

Yea, kinda sucks bc I couldnt get in on it, not that I couldnt, but I waited too long. I went Thurs. thought I could comeback Sat. or so to get them, and all gone :(.

Mine ran out of chicken wings but they substituted boneless chicken wings instead, which was an even better deal.

Guess we'll need to wait until next year...

It was a good deal too, I was willing to bet I could fit at least 5lbs into that bucket.

Cool that you're into brine injected chicken, bro. I'll take free range chicken that doesn't rely on sodium injections to add flavor to the meat.

How do you know it isnt the same at WF? They have different types of rotisserie chickens, and not everyone can afford to spend $10-15 for one.

i'll give you props for actually getting your facts straight. i'd rather have some sodium injected into my bird to keep it moist for a few days since it takes me a few meals to get through it.

To be honest, I wouldn't recommend buying any rotisserie chicken if you're trying to eat healthy unless you know the source or cook it yourself. They sound like a nice, healthy dinner, but most store bought ones are so full of preservatives, sodium, and other crap that you might as well just eat whatever. The point was the poster was comparing the $1.99 organic chickens people were buying with paying $5 for a chicken at Costco. The Costco rotisserie chickens are super unhealthy and pumped full of all kinda of crap.

Not only the source for rotisserie, but the shelf life. The ones they use to rotisserie are the ones that were unable to sell raw on the shelf. They marinade the hell out of them to hide any smells (as its close to expired date).

I will sell you folks my flesh for 1.99 and it is also organic.

so i should eat some pizza from pizza hut or maybe a sackful from krystal? maybe a brown bag special with a coconut cream slush from sonic? that would be essentially the same as eating costco rotisserie? tell that to the 22 lbs i've recently lost while having these birds as part of my diet about once a week.

Quit eating this chicken and you'll probably lose another 5 lbs of water weight.

Glad you're losing weight, but once you hit your goal realize that weight isn't the only indicator of health. All the crap pumped in these things is poison. I used to eat these things all the time and my blood pressure dropped significantly and my energy went way up after cutting seemingly healthy prepared foods, such as Costco chickens, out of my diet.

I think it was you losing 85-lb. That can be done on the conventional diet of sugars and non-whole wheat. It's called moderation + exercise.

As for the evil Monsanto, gov't and environmental groups are no better. Let's talk about malaria and the elimination of DDT. Tens of millions will die because of this purely POLITICAL decision. How about African gov't stealing money that could be used for 1st world treatment of HIV/AIDS?

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1...48569.html

Basically, there's corruption everywhere, but to solely look at big business is wrong. Without big business and profits, we all would be living in the 1800's.

Thanks, OP. Picked me up 4 birds on Friday. Will be comparing them in taste and texture to Tyson chicken from the local Walmart.

Enough about rotisserie chicken and give me your opinion on organic vs. non-organic chicken breast. I buy Kirkland 6.5lbs individually wrapped frozen chicken breasts. Organic chicken breasts are so much more expensive, but I'm sure they are way better health wise.

don't do your research here. get actual scientific studies to form your opinion.

Plant-based whole-food diet work every time!

I eat mostly plants but get hungry all the time. I also buy the organic chicken and throw it into my salad.Does anyone know what is pumped into the costco chickens? I thought it was mainly salt water, what else is there?