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komondor 02-22-2013 06:01 PM

Irs lien
 
So a friend of mine was in negotiation with the IRS over some 50k that she owed. the plan was for her to pay it back over 3 years, today she got an email from her company that they sent them a wage garnishment letter for the 50K

But on top of that she checked her bank account and they took the full 50K out three days ago, does the IRS just use a shotgun approach she wants to know if they will put 20k back and take payments my thought would be why would they give back money that is owed that they have but anyone have any experience with it?

travathian 02-22-2013 06:39 PM

Why would they do a payment plan if she had the funds?

komondor 02-22-2013 06:59 PM

she does not really her average credit card bill is around 15k plus she has 12k in checks/payments currently going out.

turns out there is a 21 day hold period where the bank basically puts the $$ in a freeze so that you can't use it but the IRS also can't get it, sh is hoping to pay 10k upfront then pay the rest on a plan.

For anyone thinking that the IRS will not catch up with your her oldest tax year is 2006 that they are going after her for.

Dr. J 02-22-2013 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by komondor (Post 57771120)
she does not really her average credit card bill is around 15k plus she has 12k in checks/payments currently going out.

turns out there is a 21 day hold period where the bank basically puts the $$ in a freeze so that you can't use it but the IRS also can't get it, sh is hoping to pay 10k upfront then pay the rest on a plan.

For anyone thinking that the IRS will not catch up with your her oldest tax year is 2006 that they are going after her for.


I've always heard 7 years..... which would be 2006.

tresh 02-22-2013 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by komondor (Post 57770264)
So a friend of mine was in negotiation with the IRS over some 50k that she owed.

it sounds like the negotiations didn't go well [for her].

BargainSnatcher 02-22-2013 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. J (Post 57771342)
I've always heard 7 years..... which would be 2006.

Exactly.

And if she has the money and they now have it, there isn't anything to negociate.

afratki 02-23-2013 06:22 AM

Just because your friend thought she was negotiating doesn't mean the IRS was. :)

While I don't knowing the particulars of your friends situation, wage garnishment and bank levies by the IRS are usually the last steps in a long process. If she has the money, she has to show why she can't pay in full, I would suggest getting a tax attorney if she hasn't already.

johnfoe 02-23-2013 07:23 AM

Sounds like a deadbeat to me.

dickbigger 02-23-2013 09:57 AM

she has to call the irs to take lien off

BargainSnatcher 02-23-2013 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by johnfoe (Post 57776810)
Sounds like a deadbeat to me.

I wonder if i can negociate my taxes. I have the money, i just don't want to pay it all :P

Samstag 02-24-2013 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by komondor (Post 57771120)
she does not really her average credit card bill is around 15k plus she has 12k in checks/payments currently going out.

turns out there is a 21 day hold period where the bank basically puts the $$ in a freeze so that you can't use it but the IRS also can't get it, sh is hoping to pay 10k upfront then pay the rest on a plan.

For anyone thinking that the IRS will not catch up with your her oldest tax year is 2006 that they are going after her for.

Sounds like she needs to start negotiating with the other people she owes money to. The IRS has already called "dibs".

daniel32 02-24-2013 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by komondor (Post 57770264)
So a friend of mine was in negotiation with the IRS over some 50k that she owed. the plan was for her to pay it back over 3 years, today she got an email from her company that they sent them a wage garnishment letter for the 50K

But on top of that she checked her bank account and they took the full 50K out three days ago, does the IRS just use a shotgun approach she wants to know if they will put 20k back and take payments my thought would be why would they give back money that is owed that they have but anyone have any experience with it?

first mistake: not paying her taxes

second mistake: giving IRS her bank account number

mykah89 02-24-2013 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by daniel32 (Post 57792026)
first mistake: not paying her taxes

second mistake: giving IRS her bank account number


...because they didnt have it already....

daniel32 02-24-2013 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by mykah89 (Post 57792344)
...because they didnt have it already....

even if they did they cannot just withdraw the money from it. Grounds for a lawsuit. Plus the only reason they did have it was probably due because it was written on a tax form with e-refund.

afratki 02-24-2013 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by daniel32 (Post 57793346)
even if they did they cannot just withdraw the money from it. Grounds for a lawsuit. Plus the only reason they did have it was probably due because it was written on a tax form with e-refund.

Uh...yes they can and they know every account associated with every SS# and EIN, you give it when you open a bank account.

saladdin 02-24-2013 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by daniel32 (Post 57793346)
even if they did they cannot just withdraw the money from it. Grounds for a lawsuit. Plus the only reason they did have it was probably due because it was written on a tax form with e-refund.

IRS does not need a judgment. I think you do not understand the collection authority they have.

jamey1010 02-24-2013 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by daniel32 (Post 57793346)
even if they did they cannot just withdraw the money from it. Grounds for a lawsuit. Plus the only reason they did have it was probably due because it was written on a tax form with e-refund.

Many certified letters would have came stating they were going to levy/garnish accounts/wages.

She should call the number on one of those letters, all that stuff happens automatically when extensions for the plan to be accepted end and that's what it sounds like happened it hadn't be approved yet and time allowed ran out, she needed to be more diligent in following up with them. When she calls they will have account notes if agreements are being processed.

daniel32 02-24-2013 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jamey1010 (Post 57801312)
Many certified letters would have came stating they were going to levy/garnish accounts/wages.

She should call the number on one of those letters, all that stuff happens automatically when extensions for the plan to be accepted end and that's what it sounds like happened it hadn't be approved yet and time allowed ran out, she needed to be more diligent in following up with them. When she calls they will have account notes if agreements are being processed.

I agree. This is what probably happened. IRS probably got a judgement entered against her after she did not show up to court.


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