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HEATBaller 02-28-2013 05:33 AM

Chris Christie U-Turns And Accepts Obamacare
 
Make no mistake Your Choice for President in 2016 will boil down to this guys or Hillary. Sure Rubio will make a strong run so will John Thune or Hunstman or some other Republican Governor who has Tea Party creds like never having accepted Obamacare or reducing spending in his state and balanced the budget.

But Christie will be right up there. Heck he's even growing on me

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y83z552NJaw

But he sure is making alot of waves to cut ties and be his own man. Keep in mind the GOP will support who ever the nominee is. Its really the dismantling of the Republican party as a whole, its signaling that candidates have to scatter and make their own road.

jplayland 02-28-2013 05:41 AM

Did you link to the wrong video? I saw nothing about Obamacare in the video.

loop610bob 02-28-2013 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by HEATBaller (Post 57881044)
Sure Rubio will make a strong run

Rubio has zero, ZERO chance of making it through a national campaign. There's a reason why Romney chose Ryan instead of Rubio even though Rubio was in EVERY MEASURABLE WAY a better veep candidate.

No chance. Ever. Period.

Just sayin.

amosem 02-28-2013 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by rrc06 (Post 57881372)
Christie is exactly what the republican party needs. Not quacks like Palin, or aloof near-billionaries like Romney.

And because of this, he will be blackballed by the republican party.

rrc06 02-28-2013 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by loop610bob (Post 57881468)
Rubio has zero, ZERO chance of making it through a national campaign. There's a reason why Romney chose Ryan instead of Rubio even though Rubio was in EVERY MEASURABLE WAY a better veep candidate.

No chance. Ever. Period.

Just sayin.

I think A Christie/Rubio ticket would be very solid for 2016. He is young and eloquent, not unlike someone currently in office.

BobDeal 02-28-2013 06:06 AM

The tea partiers are really getting in a tizzy about this issue. How is expanding Medicaid health coverage to people at 138% of the poverty line ($23,050 for a family of four) a bad thing? I don't think that's a good reason to attack a Republican governor. On the other hand, this might actually be a good way to go for the party.

jplayland 02-28-2013 06:08 AM

Did this just turn into submit your nominations time?

Paul Ryan - Most qualified of them all. He isn't afraid to say the truth even when it's unpopular and depicted as throwing grandma off the cliff.

I don't know Christie's record, but he seems to be a no BS sort of guy. Maybe a PR + CC combo. They can fight over P vs VP.

Rubio just seems off to me for some reason. I think it's just his body language.

loop610bob 02-28-2013 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by rrc06 (Post 57881580)
I think A Christie/Rubio ticket would be very solid for 2016. He is young and eloquent, not unlike someone currently in office.

Too much baggage and it's exactly the wrong kind of baggage.

BigBananaMess 02-28-2013 06:24 AM

Christie is a turncoat who sold out to 0bama in exchange for billions in Sandy aid. If elected to the presidency, he would be another GWB - a pseudo-conservative promoting big government.


And he has a man-crush on 0bama.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-AQUQnKMztv...stie-obama.jpg

Sun_Shine 02-28-2013 06:28 AM

nothin short of submittin to extortion in order to get desperatly needed federal $$$

rrc06 02-28-2013 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by BigBananaMess (Post 57882008)
Christie is a turncoat who sold out to 0bama in exchange for billions in Sandy aid. If elected to the presidency, he would be another GWB - a pseudo-conservative promoting big government.

He doesn't come across to me as a religious-right neocon, but that's just me

dynamite 02-28-2013 07:13 AM

No way Christie runs in 2016. Huckabee is the most likely candidate IMO. Hillary wins easily in 2016 and 2020. 2024 we should see another party come to fruition.

new33 02-28-2013 07:22 AM

ha ha no to all of this

ConservativeNYer 02-28-2013 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by rrc06 (Post 57881372)
Christie is exactly what the republican party needs. Not quacks like Palin, or aloof near-billionaries like Romney.

Disagree. There is no way the GOP will appoint a pro-gun control candidate like Christie. Period.

jplayland 02-28-2013 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by dynamite (Post 57883238)
No way Christie runs in 2016. Huckabee is the most likely candidate IMO. Hillary wins easily in 2016 and 2020. 2024 we should see another party come to fruition.

No way. It's possible I guess, I just don't see it happening. Wouldn't it be bad for the first black president and the first women president to be the worst two presidents we ever had? I would think we would look for some higher quality options.

rrc06 02-28-2013 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ConservativeNYer (Post 57884032)
Disagree. There is no way the GOP will appoint a pro-gun control candidate like Christie. Period.

they won't have a choice. He is pro common sense, and the GOP will continue to be marginalized until they elect someone like him.

ConservativeNYer 02-28-2013 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by rrc06 (Post 57884368)
they won't have a choice. He is pro common sense, and the GOP will continue to be marginalized until they elect someone like him.

That's what the party establishment said in nominating "moderates" (read: liberals) like McCain and Romney.

HEATBaller 02-28-2013 08:00 AM

If Christie runs, hes a good man don't get me wrong. Governor also.

But its too bad Fox and the Right media will paint him as a Muslim loving, gun controling, Obamcare taking, job cutting big ole.... well you get the idea.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=427CsNscAek here is part of what will be shown.

Keep in mind, the hate comes from both sides Jews/Muslims even though the guy Christie backed passed Senate review was confirmed and has served admirably. The suspicion is there.

We would see it as comical if Muslims were up in arms about a Jewish Judge on the bench there are already serving with no controversy. But if one muslim gets appointed its all of a sudden the end of the world.

jplayland 02-28-2013 08:00 AM

I wish we could get rid of these stupid parties. I don't know about the rest of you, but I agree with Republicans 50% of the time, Democrats 30% of the time, for a total of about 65% of the time. The other 35% of the time they are both wrong as far as I'm concerned. Why can't we get to a system where the candidates can tell us what they really think instead of lying and conforming to fit the party.

thikthird 02-28-2013 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by HEATBaller (Post 57884472)
If Christie runs, hes a good man don't get me wrong. Governor also.

But its too bad Fox and the Right media will paint him as a Muslim loving, gun controling, Obamcare taking, job cutting big ole.... well you get the idea.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=427CsNscAek here is part of what will be shown.

Keep in mind, the hate comes from both sides Jews/Muslims even though the guy Christie backed passed Senate review was confirmed and has served admirably. The suspicion is there.

We would see it as comical if Muslims were up in arms about a Jewish Judge on the bench there are already serving with no controversy. But if one muslim gets appointed its all of a sudden the end of the world.

fox will fall in line for christie the way they did for romney.

highfloydelity 02-28-2013 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by jplayland (Post 57884476)
I wish we could get rid of these stupid parties. I don't know about the rest of you, but I agree with Republicans 50% of the time, Democrats 30% of the time, for a total of about 65% of the time. The other 35% of the time they are both wrong as far as I'm concerned. Why can't we get to a system where the candidates can tell us what they really think instead of lying and conforming to fit the party.

Sounds simple doesn't it? Why can't we? $$$

Until you take the money out of politics, it'll never happen.

jplayland 02-28-2013 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by highfloydelity (Post 57888306)
Sounds simple doesn't it? Why can't we? $$$

Until you take the money out of politics, it'll never happen.

I think the only real way it could happen is if the government collapsed and we got the chance to rebuild. I think the progressive plan is along the same lines except rebuiling as a socialist based system.

124nic8 02-28-2013 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by jplayland (Post 57884476)
I wish we could get rid of these stupid parties. I don't know about the rest of you, but I agree with Republicans 50% of the time, Democrats 30% of the time, for a total of about 65% of the time. The other 35% of the time they are both wrong as far as I'm concerned. Why can't we get to a system where the candidates can tell us what they really think instead of lying and conforming to fit the party.

Because we don't have a dictatorship, it takes many elected officials working together to have any power and get anything done. ie. a Party.

124nic8 02-28-2013 11:06 AM

http://www.politico.com/story/201...z2M87Eb06d

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“This past year he [Gov. Christi] strongly advocated for the passage of a $60+ billion pork barrel bill, containing only $9 billion in disaster assistance and he signed up with the federal government to expand Medicaid at a time when his state can ill afford it, so he was not invited to speak.” -- American Conservative Union head Al Cardenas explaining why Gov. Chris Christie was not invited to speak at CPAC

training6147 02-28-2013 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jplayland (Post 57884476)
I wish we could get rid of these stupid parties. I don't know about the rest of you, but I agree with Republicans 50% of the time, Democrats 30% of the time, for a total of about 65% of the time. The other 35% of the time they are both wrong as far as I'm concerned. Why can't we get to a system where the candidates can tell us what they really think instead of lying and conforming to fit the party.

You are a smart man

loop610bob 02-28-2013 11:44 AM

Parliament system allows you to vote for whatever party you want and you can easily form a party that will have major power in the very next election if your core beliefs are popular with the people. Look at the rise and fall of Kadima. Oh, and you force snap elections if the government in power breaks its word.

There's a reason we don't set up our system in other places. Our system sucks.

/planting seeds everywhere I go

jplayland 02-28-2013 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by 124nic8 (Post 57889052)
Because we don't have a dictatorship, it takes many elected officials working together to have any power and get anything done. ie. a Party.

We can have officials working together without parties, or with a number of additional parties. I really don't see a lot of working together going on anyway. Dictatorship has nothing to do with this conversation. We are still talking about people acting as representatives, just not falsely group into one party or the other and made to conform.


Why elect all these supposedly smart people when only two opinions are allowed in DC anyway.

Xygonn 02-28-2013 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by loop610bob (Post 57890980)
Parliament system allows you to vote for whatever party you want and you can easily form a party that will have major power in the very next election if your core beliefs are popular with the people. Look at the rise and fall of Kadima. Oh, and you force snap elections if the government in power breaks its word.

There's a reason we don't set up our system in other places. Our system sucks.

/planting seeds everywhere I go

It was recently pointed out to me that the CRA does not allow for states to hold parliamentary elections for their representatives in the house, which seems soooo backwards to me.

124nic8 02-28-2013 01:23 PM

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On Wednesday, Florida’s Rick Scott became the seventh Republican governor to accept Obamacare’s Medicaid expansion. His reversal was particularly important because Scott, a tea party-backed former hospital executive who won election in 2010 in large part due to his opposition to Obamacare, had sworn to reject the Medicaid dollars. In conducting a complete about-face, he created a template for other Republican governors who excitedly said no to the money before the election to reevaluate in light of Obama’s win.

“It doesn’t matter what I believe,” Scott told reporters. “The Supreme Court made its decision. We had an election in the fall, and the public made their decision. Now the president’s health-care law is the law.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blo...s-winning/

Deusxmachina 02-28-2013 01:30 PM

Christie would be a good nominee for the current Republican Party since he could also run as a Democrat and no one would know the difference.

I'd like to say if you take away his wanting to balance some budgets he may as well be a Democrat, but that's not true since half the Republicans don't want to balance budgets either.

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Originally Posted by jplayland (Post 57881670)
Paul Ryan - Most qualified of them all. He isn't afraid to say the truth even when it's unpopular and depicted as throwing grandma off the cliff.

Paul Ryan is the biggest hypocrite POS currently in the Republican Party. I am amazed that even the media for some reason calls him a conservative. His voting record is 80% for bigger government. His very own proposed budget plan wouldn't balance the budget for about 30 years. And that's not 30 years to pay off the debt. That's 30 years just to balance that current trillion-dollars-a-year deficit.

As for the big deal about Republican governors accepting Obamacare. They don't have much of a choice. If they are required to choose that or a "half-fed, half-state" designed system, the shackles put on them on the fed half means they wouldn't have much control over it anyway.

Foreveryours 02-28-2013 01:50 PM

Jerry Brown hates the guy, nuff said.

adams135 02-28-2013 05:35 PM

Chris Christie U-Turns And Accepts Obamacare

After the way Christie was slobbering all over Obama right after the hurricane was there any doubt?

Radeck 03-01-2013 06:33 PM

Of course he did...he's not the one who has to worry about paying for it, future taxpayers will, after he's long gone out of office.

Obamacare promises to pay 100% of the costs for the first 3 years, 90% the following year, and that's all...after that who knows how much the feds will pay, if anything....the states that are taking up Obamacare are idiots taking a trojan horse inside their financial walls...it comes bearing gifts for 3 or 4 years, and then will bankrupt them in the future as they get hit with the increased costs and reduced federal payments.

I for one am glad Gov. Perry is telling Obama to shove it.


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