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immad 03-03-2013 09:33 PM

ASUS VS239H-P 23-Inch Full-HD LED IPS Monitor for $159.99 AR w/FS
 
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ASUS VS239H-P 23-Inch Full-HD LED IPS Monitor [amazon.com]

Mail in rebate [images-amazon.com]
  • HDMI, D-Sub, and DVI-D inputs (DVI and VGA cables included)
  • Convenient key controls for functional set-up in the multi-language OSD
  • Easily detachable base for wall mount (VESA Wall Mount Standard (100 x 100 mm))
  • 25° (forward 5°, backwards 20°) Tilting Angle
  • KENSINGTON Security Lock

natenkiki2004 03-03-2013 09:39 PM

Seems like a good deal. I would like to point out though that Amazon shows this monitor as having a 2ms response time which I thought was crazy for an IPS panel. Looking at Newegg for the same model, they show 5ms. Not that it's a dealbreaker, IPS panels have come a long way. Just wanted to make people aware of this.

Thumbs up :)

pokymon 03-03-2013 09:41 PM

Sales tax kills the deal for me. Thanks OP anyways.

cheapchips 03-03-2013 09:49 PM

Rebate is expired. You had to order by 2/28/13.

immad 03-03-2013 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheapchips (Post 57970122)
Rebate is expired. You had to order by 2/28/13.

I do not think you are looking at the right rebate form.....

3. A copy of the Signed Rebate Form, Copy of Receipt/Invoice or Packing
List, Original UPC/Serial Number Barcode Label, with order-purchase
date between 3/1/2013 and 3/31/2013 must be included with rebate
request.

I have also attached the rebate form to the original post so check that out as well.

cheapchips 03-03-2013 10:00 PM

^^ Ohh Okay, I just clicked the rebate form on the amazon product page. = )

Tarbo 03-03-2013 10:10 PM

Better than the Dell equivalent that made FP a few weeks ago.

kevinh 03-03-2013 10:16 PM

BH Photo is $166 AR but no tax for non-New Yorkers.

tclphz 03-03-2013 10:25 PM

What's the difference between this ans the VS238H-P?

(sorry if it's obvious, my knowledge of monitors approaches zero)

immad 03-03-2013 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tclphz (Post 57970662)
What's the difference between this ans the VS238H-P?

(sorry if it's obvious, my knowledge of monitors approaches zero)

ASUS VS239H-P has better viewing angle.

however ASUS VS238H-P has a better response time of 2ms

superstition 03-03-2013 11:15 PM

If you want better true contrast then look at an A-MVA panel in the same price range. They are 24". The recent A-MVA panels have much better pixel response than the previous generation. The Dell S2440L even has an input lag of 5 ms, according to tftcentral's review.

IPS provides better viewing angles, but contrast is a more important feature for people who aren't sharing their monitor with others (like a TV watched by a group). The exception is a pro workflow that requires very accurate color, and those people are going to buy a higher-end panel than one of these, generally. And, A-MVA still has wider viewing angles than TN.

coolwaterz 03-03-2013 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tclphz (Post 57970662)
What's the difference between this ans the VS238H-P?

(sorry if it's obvious, my knowledge of monitors approaches zero)


VS238H-P isnt a IPS panel.

superstition 03-03-2013 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coolwaterz (Post 57971584)
VS238H-P isnt a IPS panel.

Specifically, it's a TN panel.

Nate650 03-04-2013 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kevinh (Post 57970516)
BH Photo is $166 AR but no tax for non-New Yorkers.

Nice [bhphotovideo.com], thanks.

goggles99 03-04-2013 01:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by natenkiki2004 (Post 57969936)
Seems like a good deal. I would like to point out though that Amazon shows this monitor as having a 2ms response time which I thought was crazy for an IPS panel. Looking at Newegg for the same model, they show 5ms. Not that it's a dealbreaker, IPS panels have come a long way. Just wanted to make people aware of this.

Thumbs up :)

That must be grey to grey. The panel in this is a LG.Display e-IPS (14ms Black to black)

mightywatcher 03-04-2013 04:37 AM

Been looking for an external monitor for my laptop.. Is this a good deal?

sh4d 03-04-2013 05:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by japanman24 (Post 57973516)
Been looking for an external monitor for my laptop.. Is this a good deal?

The deal is pretty good. I own two of these in a dual monitor setup and they worked right out of the box with no problems. I watch TV and game on them. Works perfectly and I would definitely recommend them to anyone who is looking for a new monitor. If I wasn't broke at the moment I would buy an additional one for a 3 monitor setup.

dts0240 03-04-2013 06:57 AM

Having owned a 22" TN panel for 4 yrs, currently using a 22" MVA that I scored for $80 a few months ago, and living with someone who just upgraded to an IPS panel, I would highly recommend this as a second monitor. In my experience, it's absolutely worth the $50 or so premium for an IPS compares to a comparably-sized TN panel. If I hadn't upgraded so recently to the one I have now, I'd be all over this.

JC86 03-04-2013 07:30 AM

How does the ASUS compare to the Dell?

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Dell-...Id=3775865

t8i5n 03-04-2013 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JC86 (Post 57976358)
How does the ASUS compare to the Dell?

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Dell-...Id=3775865

That dell is a TN monitor and it doesn't have hdmi. The asus would have a better viewing angle for a little bit more money. The asus would prob be in the same class as the dell S2340L.

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andy4theherd 03-04-2013 09:59 AM

24" for same price after $20 rebate

reviews seem to indicate this is better for gaming

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/...iscount-20

natenkiki2004 03-04-2013 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by goggles99 (Post 57972722)
That must be grey to grey. The panel in this is a LG.Display e-IPS (14ms Black to black)

Probably :) Point is, 2ms? Not going to happen!

J.Lim0512 03-04-2013 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andy4theherd (Post 57980136)
24" for same price after $20 rebate

reviews seem to indicate this is better for gaming

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/...iscount-20

This is not a IPS panel.

amc1870 03-04-2013 12:44 PM

So the primary advantage of an IPS is the wider viewing angle?

If you plan on parking yourself directly in front of the screen without sharing it, there's no need for it and you can pick up a screen without the premium, right?

superstition 03-04-2013 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amc1870 (Post 57984798)
So the primary advantage of an IPS is the wider viewing angle?

If you plan on parking yourself directly in front of the screen without sharing it, there's no need for it and you can pick up a screen without the premium, right?

TN displays gamma and color shift with even a slight angle of the head on large monitors. It isn't very useful for anything that requires accurate color or greyscale.

A-MVA offers wide enough viewing angles for single-person use, although there can be a slight gamma (not color) shift if you move to an angle (10 or 15% I think). Dark greys seem darker when facing exactly straight ahead than slightly off to the side. VA panels offer far better real contrast (not gimmicks/tricks like "dynamic" contrast) than any other panel type. So, for anyone who isn't in a workflow that demands exact color/gamma, then VA can be the best panel type.

IPS does not shift much in terms of gamma and color, so it's used by graphics people who need exact color. Many of these monitors do need to be calibrated, however. IPS does not guarantee accurate color and gamma out of the box. e-IPS, the less expensive variety, also doesn't even offer 8-bit color processing (unlike VA panels) so it can have banding and FRC dithering noise. IPS does not offer the amount of contrast VA does. IPS has a "glow" at high angles, but it is the best option for groups of people looking at a monitor (collaboration).

Each panel type has its uses, its strengths and weaknesses. TN panels have the most weaknesses, but they also can offer the fastest pixel response (although input lag can be a factor).

So, to summarize:

TN, best for high-speed gaming if you get a low input lag panel with fast pixel acceleration.
A-MVA, best for general purpose use and especially watching film.
e-IPS, second-best for general use.
higher-end IPS, best for professional graphics/photography and collaborative/group usage.

For televisions, plasma is the best general-purpose home TV technology. LCD/LED is the best for static displays and for places with harsh lighting and "always on" usage, like restaurants.

dimabigdiao 03-04-2013 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kevinh (Post 57970516)
BH Photo is $166 AR but no tax for non-New Yorkers.

this is an awesome find. better deal than the amazon if you're from cali. no need to pay for tax or e-waste

who555 03-04-2013 02:02 PM

BH Photo is a better option for me, cause i'm in cali.

t8i5n 03-04-2013 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by superstition (Post 57985354)
Quote:

Originally Posted by amc1870 (Post 57984798)
So the primary advantage of an IPS is the wider viewing angle?

If you plan on parking yourself directly in front of the screen without sharing it, there's no need for it and you can pick up a screen without the premium, right?

TN displays gamma and color shift with even a slight angle of the head on large monitors. It isn't very useful for anything that requires accurate color or greyscale.

A-MVA offers wide enough viewing angles for single-person use, although there can be a slight gamma (not color) shift if you move to an angle (10 or 15% I think). Dark greys seem darker when facing exactly straight ahead than slightly off to the side. VA panels offer far better real contrast (not gimmicks/tricks like "dynamic" contrast) than any other panel type. So, for anyone who isn't in a workflow that demands exact color/gamma, then VA can be the best panel type.

IPS does not shift much in terms of gamma and color, so it's used by graphics people who need exact color. Many of these monitors do need to be calibrated, however. IPS does not guarantee accurate color and gamma out of the box. e-IPS, the less expensive variety, also doesn't even offer 8-bit color processing (unlike VA panels) so it can have banding and FRC dithering noise. IPS does not offer the amount of contrast VA does. IPS has a "glow" at high angles, but it is the best option for groups of people looking at a monitor (collaboration).

Each panel type has its uses, its strengths and weaknesses. TN panels have the most weaknesses, but they also can offer the fastest pixel response (although input lag can be a factor).

So, to summarize:

TN, best for high-speed gaming if you get a low input lag panel with fast pixel acceleration.
A-MVA, best for general purpose use and especially watching film.
e-IPS, second-best for general use.
higher-end IPS, best for professional graphics/photography and collaborative/group usage.

For televisions, plasma is the best general-purpose home TV technology. LCD/LED is the best for static displays and for places with harsh lighting and "always on" usage, like restaurants.

Couldn't have said better. I used to have two TN monitors on a corner desk and the viewing angle was so bad that I sold both and got me a u2410 for my photography hobby. I also have a s2440l VA panel next to it now and yes the contrast is amazing. Wish I have enough money for another u2410 or a u2413.

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slip6 03-04-2013 05:23 PM

I know IPS monitors are supposedly 180 degrees with very little color shifting.
But does that hold true for vertical as well?

My bed is significantly lower than my monitor, and with my current VH236H Asus (which I'm assuming is TN), I'm looking up about 40-45 degrees (as well as about 45 degrees to the side), and the image is so much darker that it's hard to see.

I'm hoping this would greatly reduce this issue. Can anyone provide some advice?
Thanks!

slip6 03-04-2013 08:40 PM

Quote:

While both models share largely similar specs, there are a couple of differences. The VS239H has a response time of 14ms, the VS239H-P a response time of 5ms (gray to gray). Also, the former doesn't have the Trace Free feature that the latter has.
[com.sg]

Not that it makes a huge difference to me, but for some it might...

After researching it seems that this should offer very good vertical viewing angles as well.

I would think that a $160 IPS monitor is a hot deal, but I guess not..
EDIT - I guess I haven't been looking at monitor deals lately...

hikingmike 03-05-2013 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by t8i5n (Post 57987102)
Couldn't have said better. I used to have two TN monitors on a corner desk and the viewing angle was so bad that I sold both and got me a u2410 for my photography hobby. I also have a s2440l VA panel next to it now and yes the contrast is amazing. Wish I have enough money for another u2410 or a u2413.

I have had a Samsung S-PVA panel 19" 1280x1024 for 10 years (cost a pretty penny then) and just got a 24" Dell TN panel 1920x1080 from a friend who bought out the LCDs at an office liquidation. Wow, the TN looks like dog shit compared to the S-PVA with everything washed out, not even worrying about viewing angle. It might be worse than your average TN, I don't know. I have so much more space for gaming and everything but I will probably go back to the 19" until I can get a proper 24" monitor.

rgermain 03-05-2013 07:58 AM

I bought the smaller one off amazon a couple of months ago for a similar price. They're wobbly but look good.

Quote:

Originally Posted by immad (Post 57969814)
ASUS VS239H-P 23-Inch Full-HD LED IPS Monitor [amazon.com]

Mail in rebate [images-amazon.com]
  • HDMI, D-Sub, and DVI-D inputs (DVI and VGA cables included)
  • Convenient key controls for functional set-up in the multi-language OSD
  • Easily detachable base for wall mount (VESA Wall Mount Standard (100 x 100 mm))
  • 25° (forward 5°, backwards 20°) Tilting Angle
  • KENSINGTON Security Lock


mickloud 03-05-2013 09:17 AM

Ugh, price up to $184 now, and I was looking to buy two.

Wish I saw this sooner!

superstition 03-05-2013 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slipstreamv2 (Post 57991744)
I know IPS monitors are supposedly 180 degrees with very little color shifting.
But does that hold true for vertical as well?

e-IPS generally offers viewing angle range that is inferior to more expensive grades of IPS such as H-IPS. You will encounter IPS glow with any IPS monitor that doesn't have a polarizer (at extreme angles).


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