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pcguy33144 03-15-2013 05:04 PM

HP ProLiant N54L G7 Server System: AMD Turion II 2.2GHz CPU, 2GB DDR3, 250GB HDD, 150W Power Supply $240 after $50 rebate + Free Shipping
 
Newegg.com has HP ProLiant G7 Server System AMD Turion II Model Neo N54L 2GB 704941-001 for $389.99 - $50IR - $50MIR - $50PromoCode "AFNJ0379" = $239.99 + Free Shipping [newegg.com]

iconian 03-15-2013 05:04 PM

HP ProLiant N54L G7 Server System: AMD Turion II 2.2GHz CPU, 2GB DDR3, 250GB HDD, 150W Power Supply $240 after $50 rebate + Free Shipping
 
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Newegg has HP ProLiant N54L 7 Server System AMD Turion II 2GB (704941-001) for $339.99 - $50 with Promo Code AFNJ0379 = $289.99 - $50 rebate = $239.99 with free shipping. Thanks pcguy33144
  • AMD Turion II Model Neo N54L 2.20 GHz
  • 2GB DDR3
  • 250GB 7200RPM HDD
  • 150W Power Supply
Price Research: Our research indicates that HP ProLiant N54L G7 Server System is $103 lower (30% savings) than the next best available price from a reputable merchant with prices starting at $343 - steveb3163

wikipost 03-15-2013 05:04 PM

This post can and should be edited by users like you :)
 
http://h18000.www1.hp.com/product...16_na.html

At A Glance
Processor:
AMD Turion™ II Neo N54L (2.2GHz)
AMD RS785E/SB820M chipset
Memory:
Two (2) DIMM slots
2GB (1x2GB) Standard or 4GB (1x4GB)/8GB Maximum, using PC3-10600E DDR3 Unbuffered (UDIMM) ECC memory, operating at max. 800MHz
Storage Controller:
Embedded AMD SATA controller with RAID 0, 1
Embedded AMD eSATA controller for connecting external storage devices via the eSATA connector in the rear of the server
Internal Drive Support:
4 Internal HDD Support
Maximum internal SATA storage capacity of up to 8.0TB (4 x 2TB 3.5" SATA drives)
Network Controller:
Embedded NC107i PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Server Adapter
Expansion Slots:
Slot 1: PCI-Express Gen 2 x16 connector with x16 link
Slot 2: PCI-Express Gen 2 x1 connector with x1 Link
Slot 2-2: PCI-Express x4 slot for optional management card
USB 2.0 Ports:
Seven (7) USB 2.0 ports: 4 front , 2 rear, 1 internal (for tape)
Power Supply:
150 Watts Non-Hot Plug, Non Redundant Power Supply
Management:
Optional MicroServer Remote Access Card
Operating System:
Supports Windows and Red Hat Linux
Form Factor:
Ultra Micro tower
Warranty:
This product is covered by a global limited warranty and supported by HP Services and a worldwide network of HP Authorized Channel Partners. Hardware diagnostic support and repair is available for one year from date of purchase. Support for software and initial setup is available for 90 days from date of purchase. Enhancements to warranty services are available through HP Care Pack services or customized service agreements. Hard drives have either a one year or three year warranty; refer to the specific hard drive QuickSpecs for details.
NOTE: Server Warranty includes 1 year Next Day Parts replacement, 0-Years Labor, 0-Years Onsite support. Additional information regarding worldwide limited warranty and technical support is available at: http://h18004.www1.hp.com/product...index.html.

ape 03-15-2013 05:10 PM

389-50-50=289

pcguy33144 03-15-2013 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ape (Post 58250642)
389-50-50=289


missing a $50IR lol

ape 03-15-2013 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pcguy33144 (Post 58250688)
missing a $50IR lol

the $50 IR isn't showing, did they pull it?

rebatehunter 03-15-2013 05:26 PM

Dead?

xxza 03-15-2013 05:32 PM

where is $50 IR

DVDBob 03-15-2013 05:32 PM

Looks like $289. No $50ir to be found.

dj-3lusion 03-15-2013 05:54 PM

aww this was gonna be front page material if its $239. well hopefully it will be 239

BWheel 03-15-2013 06:02 PM

I applied the code and balance is $289 before MIR. Look at the very bottom of the page at Grand Total.

pglover19 03-15-2013 06:06 PM

Worked for me too... Looks like a great deal on a great MicroServer.. I have the N40L and it runs great.. No issues at all....

pcguy33144 03-15-2013 06:07 PM

same here..... the $50IR is available now!!!!

pglover19 03-15-2013 06:09 PM

Is this a good deal after the rebate ($239)?

kolaja 03-15-2013 06:11 PM

311.74 with CA taxes before rebate

pcguy33144 03-15-2013 06:18 PM

3 Attachment(s)
here are the screen shots for this deal~
it is good for $239.99 before tax!!!
:D:D:D

dagadu 03-15-2013 06:24 PM

Nice deal! But CA tax kills it!

microkelvin 03-15-2013 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pglover19 (Post 58251606)
Worked for me too... Looks like a great deal on a great MicroServer.. I have the N40L and it runs great.. No issues at all....

what OS do you recommend for this?

pglover19 03-15-2013 06:35 PM

I am running Windows Home Server 2011 on my N40L.. I would be interested to hear from others on what OS to install and the the best place online to purchase the OS software.

Barret 03-15-2013 06:36 PM

Does anyone know what the power consumption of this thing actually is? One post online says 60-70 Watts with 1 HDD...seems shockingly high considering this is meant to be a low power system?

Edit: And that's for the N40L which has a slower processor http://www.virten.net/2012/04/vsp...croserver/

lanbaba 03-15-2013 07:19 PM

Check this link, someone ported the DSM from Synology onto it:
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1460222...n-synology


Quote:

Originally Posted by pglover19 (Post 58252072)
I am running Windows Home Server 2011 on my N40L.. I would be interested to hear from others on what OS to install and the the best place online to purchase the OS software.


rsx1213 03-15-2013 07:20 PM

I'm not receiving the instant $50 rebate as of 10:19 EST.

Examiner44 03-15-2013 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by microkelvin (Post 58251982)
what OS do you recommend for this?

Windows Home Server 2011, it can be purchased for under $50

bearlady 03-15-2013 07:40 PM

The IR did not shown initially when I added the server to my cart....I had to manually enter AFNJ0379 after logging into my account - good deal for this server. Currently using an N40L as a media server or would jump on this!

rsx1213 03-15-2013 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bearlady (Post 58253002)
The IR did not shown initially when I added the server to my cart....I had to manually enter AFNJ0379 after logging into my account - good deal for this server. Currently using an N40L as a media server or would jump on this!

I did not notice the CPN within the link. TU and repped you. Thanks for mentioning.

KaptainKratos 03-15-2013 08:05 PM

Great deal! But WI tax kills the.... Wait there is no WI tax! Haha

bearlady 03-15-2013 08:06 PM

You're welcome.... :)

jyqureshi 03-15-2013 08:18 PM

The only problem with n36l, n40l, and n54l is that they do not support s3 sleep mode, which would make these machines even better.

AUTiger93 03-15-2013 08:33 PM

The AMD Turion will show its lack of performance quickly under load.

Max amount of RAM on this is 16GB. It really depends on what you are planning to use this for and whether or not it is a good deal for you.

The next step up is the ML110 which add a significant performance boost, however at a steeper price.

Hrshycro 03-15-2013 08:55 PM

Will this work as a Plex Server?

aviralmsharma 03-15-2013 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hrshycro (Post 58254120)
Will this work as a Plex Server?

Planning do the same and should work (unless it requires more RAM)
Currently have a i5 3rd gen 8GB dedicated for Plex which is an overkill.

beatstreet 03-15-2013 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pglover19 (Post 58251606)
Worked for me too... Looks like a great deal on a great MicroServer.. I have the N40L and it runs great.. No issues at all....

My 40L htpc is a BEAST! 8gb ram, 512mb low pro gpu, 7.1 pci sound card, ssd +4 hdd, running win 7 64bit 24/7. Draws about 60-68 watts between idle, downloading, watching movies. I was lucky to get the 40l for $214 shipped when newegg had a business promo. Love it.

bobcat255 03-15-2013 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by microkelvin (Post 58251982)
what OS do you recommend for this?

Depends on what you want to do with it...

- ESXi
- Hyper-V 2012
- unRaid
- FreeNAS
- WHS
- Windows Server 2012 Essentials
- Solaris

Love my N40L, the only change is a faster CPU.

Thiswaytocowboy 03-15-2013 09:52 PM

Hmm....what do y'all use this server for?....looks,like a good deal so I'm trying to justify purchase...lol

bearlady 03-15-2013 10:02 PM

N40L as media server (Plex)

bobcat255 03-15-2013 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thiswaytocowboy (Post 58254766)
Hmm....what do y'all use this server for?....looks,like a good deal so I'm trying to justify purchase...lol

NAS/Backup & Media Center (see signature)

johnnie502 03-15-2013 10:17 PM

now you can load Synology os to it! definitly a good deal compared to the "real" synology product.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1460222...on-for-nas

aviralmsharma 03-15-2013 10:18 PM

Does it contain the 250GB HDD?

bobcat255 03-15-2013 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnnie502 (Post 58255048)
now you can load Synology os to it! definitly a good deal compared to the "real" synology product.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1460222...on-for-nas

I'd just get unRAID and not deal with this.

ViRaL 03-15-2013 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aviralmsharma (Post 58255056)
Does it contain the 250GB HDD?

It doesn't look like this config includes an HDD, but in my opinion it's not worth extra for that. I'd recommend an SSD for the optical bay and 4 matched HDDs for the raid.

Edit: I take that back. This SKU does seem to include the 250GB drive. Still, I recommend an SSD in the optical bay for your OS, saving your 4 other bays for RAID. Also, for ESXi you can install it on a flash drive and boot from the internal USB port.

johnnie502 03-15-2013 10:39 PM

seems $50 IR gone

microkelvin 03-15-2013 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobcat255 (Post 58254696)
Depends on what you want to do with it...

- ESXi
- Hyper-V 2012
- unRaid
- FreeNAS
- WHS
- Windows Server 2012 Essentials
- Solaris

Love my N40L, the only change is a faster CPU.

i need a cheapest and reliable OS which supports data storage/backup with shadow copy or something similar to novell salvage.

Hrshycro 03-15-2013 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aviralmsharma (Post 58254346)
Planning do the same and should work (unless it requires more RAM)
Currently have a i5 3rd gen 8GB dedicated for Plex which is an overkill.

On second thought, I think I'll just watch for an Intel Mac Mini on Craigslist and plug some externals into it. They pop up once in awhile for $200-$300. Everything else I own is OS X or iOS, anyhow.

trza 03-15-2013 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by microkelvin (Post 58251982)
what OS do you recommend for this?

It really depends on how you intend to use it. It should run just about anything that a typical home might use. Windows Home Server is frequently chosen. You could also run Openmediavault [openmediavault.org]or Amahi [amahi.org]if you don't mind Linux.

gilbert_rebel 03-15-2013 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnnie502 (Post 58255242)
seems $50 IR gone

Still there...just ordered 1

pnoybalot 03-15-2013 11:38 PM

In for 1. Thank you!!!

graymen2 03-15-2013 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bearlady (Post 58254862)
N40L as media server (Plex)

Is it fast enough to transpose a 1080p stream? I was told it can't, otherwise it would make a really nice Plex server.

drunkhumping 03-16-2013 01:06 AM

I have one of these as a ridiculously quiet HTPC using a standard VGA plug and a usb soundcard with a bunch of drives, at 150w you couldn't ask for a better fella to play Netflix, TVersity, XBMC, and if your cable provider offers it, even streams TV from their Windows 8 app. My other is an ESXi testbox with nearly every major Linux and Windows distribution you can come up with, and if it had an Intel processor, OS X Mountain Lion.

These things are so frigging wonderful, my N40L is still a fantastic buy that I keep patting myself on the back for. There are times where I wish the processor had more oomph, but when you start pushing it, you really need to think about what you were comparing it to. In my case, it was a Win2k3 ESXi clone of a production server with a dual quad-core Xeon with hyperthreading... of course this little tiny energy/value processor can't throw down like that. But it's certainly more than enough to get the job done, saving a bunch of power along the way. Only time you wouldn't want to run an ESXi is if you need the box to be physically hooked up and displaying something, like an HTPC.

linoox 03-16-2013 01:19 AM

New to this micro server thing. Hope you guys can help me to answer some of these questions.

Can you put a blu-ray in this baby?

I read somewhere this is USB 2.0, and not 3.0. True?

Is this better than Synology? I almost pull the trigger to get that Synology 213Air recently until I had a feeling that it's overpriced.

Ostracus 03-16-2013 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drunkhumping (Post 58256164)
I have one of these as a ridiculously quiet HTPC using a standard VGA plug and a usb soundcard with a bunch of drives, at 150w you couldn't ask for a better fella to play Netflix, TVersity, XBMC, and if your cable provider offers it, even streams TV from their Windows 8 app. My other is an ESXi testbox with nearly every major Linux and Windows distribution you can come up with, and if it had an Intel processor, OS X Mountain Lion.

These things are so frigging wonderful, my N40L is still a fantastic buy that I keep patting myself on the back for. There are times where I wish the processor had more oomph, but when you start pushing it, you really need to think about what you were comparing it to. In my case, it was a Win2k3 ESXi clone of a production server with a dual quad-core Xeon with hyperthreading... of course this little tiny energy/value processor can't throw down like that. But it's certainly more than enough to get the job done, saving a bunch of power along the way. Only time you wouldn't want to run an ESXi is if you need the box to be physically hooked up and displaying something, like an HTPC.

http://www.fujitsu.com/fts/produc...index.html

This is nice too, and I believe the CPU is changeable.

djarc 03-16-2013 01:55 AM

I have had an older version of this computer running for about 1 - 1 1/2 years. Almost constantly on with a few reboots to install updates, installed 8 GB of ram, installed a 3 TB hdd, installed a spare video card. Runs Ubuntu great. Absolutely needs video card if you want to use this as a part time HTPC.

5thElement 03-16-2013 02:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graymen2 (Post 58255734)
Is it fast enough to transpose a 1080p stream? I was told it can't, otherwise it would make a really nice Plex server.

No it will not. The CPU is way to slow.

TheMouse 03-16-2013 03:55 AM

What would be the advantages/disadvantages of using this server over a laptop connected to a Drobo via USB 3.0 (other than price).

realdreams 03-16-2013 04:06 AM

1. 150W which is not that low considering its processing power
2. a server with 2 DIMMs (max 8GB total??)
3. weak cpu

What is it good for?

You can definitely build a lot more useful box for cheaper.....

realdreams 03-16-2013 04:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobcat255 (Post 58254696)
Depends on what you want to do with it...

- ESXi
- Hyper-V 2012
- unRaid
- FreeNAS
- WHS
- Windows Server 2012 Essentials
- Solaris

Love my N40L, the only change is a faster CPU.

ESXi with 2GB of RAM? Are you kidding me? Even with 8GB the overhead of ESXi won't leave you much RAM for VMs......

pglover19 03-16-2013 04:14 AM

Can you have both the Synology OS and Windows Home Server OS installed on this microserver?

smartdeals 03-16-2013 04:14 AM

my desktop already has 16gb ram and 6tb hdd, don't really need this server...

nguyentma 03-16-2013 05:15 AM

U r not alone

dvpatel 03-16-2013 05:40 AM

I run two of the N40Ls that I got in Feb 2012 in the $179 PC Connection deal. Nice little boxes. One of them runs Windows 7 MCE for HTPC duties and the 2nd one was just provisioned as a FreeNAS box with 3 x 3TB Seagates running in RAIDZ. Happy with both boxes. They're quiet.

douglasbarbin 03-16-2013 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graymen2 (Post 58255734)
Is it fast enough to transpose a 1080p stream? I was told it can't, otherwise it would make a really nice Plex server.

It can definitely stream Plex, but it probably cannot transcode. So you will want to encode your movies in a native file format, so it just directly streams them to Plex.

Captainpsp 03-16-2013 06:18 AM

I installed windows server 2012 essentials. Storage spaces and all.
Been happy with it.

Also Costco still has those 4tb Seagate drives. Grab em if you are going to use it in a NAS config.

bobcat255 03-16-2013 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by microkelvin (Post 58255304)
i need a cheapest and reliable OS which supports data storage/backup with shadow copy or something similar to novell salvage.

If the rest of your machines are Windows 7, then WS2008R2 or WHS. WHS is easiest to use/administer. If you're paying for your OS, it's also the cheapest.

If the rest of your machines are up to Windows 8, then WS2012 Essentials. This would be my choice due to Storage Spaces. You can inplace upgrade to WS2012 Standard to get Hyper-V role if you needed as well.

Other OS's will just act as a standard NAS, to which you can write data. For a home NAS, unRaid is hard to beat. You don't have to worry about multi-drive failures, OS failures, RAID controller failures, etc etc. I've entrusted my life to WS2012 Storage Spaces (ReFS is a lot like ZFS, if you're not familiar [wikipedia.org]) and so far so good.

Quote:

Originally Posted by realdreams (Post 58256878)
ESXi with 2GB of RAM? Are you kidding me? Even with 8GB the overhead of ESXi won't leave you much RAM for VMs......

ESXi won't install with 2GB ram, but most people upgrade that to 4 or 8Gb. I'm running 8 and had no problems with several OSes on ESXi. Depending on what you're trying to do. Every OS doesn't require a ton of ram, in fact, most don't. They're just a slight performance penalty for it if you hit the limit. I also ran all of my guest OSes off off SSD, which makes a huge difference - they ran very quickly.

My N40L is running WS2012 as a NAS/backup (Storage Spaces) w/Hyper-V role which is running Windows 7 Ultimate Media Center, providing media to the house.

If you wanted to run several virtuals for development, this box would handle that just fine.

suds2 03-16-2013 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graymen2 (Post 58255734)
Is it fast enough to transpose a 1080p stream? I was told it can't, otherwise it would make a really nice Plex server.

Yes it works fine with with 8GB ram and 1gb ethernet

joe_sun 03-16-2013 07:21 AM

I got excited and was thinking of buying one until I remembered I pretty much have something identical to this already that's not being used.. Such is the draw of a good deal.

ocpmachine 03-16-2013 07:57 AM

Thanks OP for posting this deal, can i install a cable tuner card like Ceton InfiniTV 4 with cablecard to replace my DVR/set-top boxes? Are these HDCP compliant? Can anyone comment please?

jtspree 03-16-2013 08:00 AM

I'm looking to get a server, but have a few needs. Can this do the following simultaneously:

1) Work as a NAS server
2) Work as a uTorrent server to DL and store files to the NAS
3) Allow me access to the files from anywhere, such as at work. I need to be able to copy/paste also.
4) Host an at-home web server to fiddle around with. I don't need to host any outside traffic other than myself and maybe a friend or two.

Any further explanation of the limitations this my bring is much appreciated. Thanks!

revaaron 03-16-2013 08:15 AM

I love my n40l. It runs whs2011, has 16tb of disk binder space, and is my htpc. It runs xbmc just fine. I did put a hdmi card in it. There are plenty of 1gb cards out there for $30 which is what I did. I also put in a FireWire card.

Wish I could get this form factor in i7-3770 format.

z3razerviper 03-16-2013 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Examiner44 (Post 58252826)
Windows Home Server 2011, it can be purchased for under $50

If you have msdn put server essentials 2012 on it worked much better for me and than whs 2011. It just seemed to run smoother on my n40l

foxt 03-16-2013 08:23 AM

Rebate says it is good for three submissions, but the promo code appears to only deduct $50 for one box on an order of three boxes?

Fireguyy 03-16-2013 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jtspree (Post 58258698)
I'm looking to get a server, but have a few needs. Can this do the following simultaneously:

1) Work as a NAS server
2) Work as a uTorrent server to DL and store files to the NAS
3) Allow me access to the files from anywhere, such as at work. I need to be able to copy/paste also.
4) Host an at-home web server to fiddle around with. I don't need to host any outside traffic other than myself and maybe a friend or two.

Any further explanation of the limitations this my bring is much appreciated. Thanks!

My N40L runs ESXi with NAS4Free, WHS with Plex and utorrent, CentOS. I installed the HP remote access card so I can reboot it and power off/on remotely. It's a great box

Oh4Sh0 03-16-2013 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jtspree (Post 58258698)
I'm looking to get a server, but have a few needs. Can this do the following simultaneously:

1) Work as a NAS server
2) Work as a uTorrent server to DL and store files to the NAS
3) Allow me access to the files from anywhere, such as at work. I need to be able to copy/paste also.
4) Host an at-home web server to fiddle around with. I don't need to host any outside traffic other than myself and maybe a friend or two.

Any further explanation of the limitations this my bring is much appreciated. Thanks!

Yes, although it will require setup/an appropriate OS installed. I'm running WHS2011 on mine, and it works well for most of these. Plex as a media server, utorrent remote, etc.

graymen2 03-16-2013 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suds2 (Post 58258204)
Yes it works fine with with 8GB ram and 1gb ethernet

Sorry for the typo, I meant transcode, which ram and gigabit has nothing to do with.

z3razerviper 03-16-2013 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jyqureshi (Post 58253576)
The only problem with n36l, n40l, and n54l is that they do not support s3 sleep mode, which would make these machines even better.

They are actually real servers thats why they dont and should not support s3 its also why you really should use ECC ram in them so they can stay running for MONTHS at a time. I love my n40l i even added a TPM and RA Card. These are really nice little boxes. but use them like a server.

suds2 03-16-2013 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graymen2 (Post 58259036)
Sorry for the typo, I meant transcode, which ram and gigabit has nothing to do with.

Plex and others are limited in what they can play. Thus, requiring a file to be transcoded. With XBMC as the front-end there is no need to transcode anything.

Tulweyen 03-16-2013 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by z3razerviper (Post 58259092)
They are actually real servers thats why they dont and should not support s3 its also why you really should use ECC ram in them so they can stay running for MONTHS at a time. I love my n40l i even added a TPM and RA Card. These are really nice little boxes. but use them like a server.

I'm not sure what S3 is, but I was thinking of buying this to upgrade my old Windows Media Center box that we watch ALL of our TV from. We do rely on the sleep function though. When we're done watching TV, we should just press the Power button that puts it to sleep.

Would that still be available on this board?

foxt 03-16-2013 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by foxt (Post 58258954)
Rebate says it is good for three submissions, but the promo code appears to only deduct $50 for one box on an order of three boxes?

Nevermind, I just also noticed that it is limit one per customer.

fibrepunk 03-16-2013 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by foxt (Post 58258954)
Rebate says it is good for three submissions, but the promo code appears to only deduct $50 for one box on an order of three boxes?


Creativity....

oopsz 03-16-2013 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ostracus (Post 58256330)
http://www.fujitsu.com/fts/produc...index.html

This is nice too, and I believe the CPU is changeable.

Yeah, I upgraded from an N36L ($200 at NE) to a Primergy MX130 ($139 at NE). Dropped in a Phenom II X6 1045t ($89) and it's fast enough to transcode video in realtime.

The Primergy isn't as "clean" on the inside, doesn't have hot-swap drive bays, but it's smaller and is definitely more flexible.

minhn 03-16-2013 09:43 AM

can i run ESXi on this?

raghuvir 03-16-2013 09:50 AM

I'm a complete noob to this. With that disclaimer: should I wait for a deal on the n40l or bit the bullet on this one?
* need a NAS
** thinking about sticking in 4 2TB hard-drives
* act as a media server
** can I add a HDMI card to this?
* do I need more memory?
* do I need a PSU with more power?

We have a MacBook in a mostly Windows house-hold.

Your thoughts?

reelss 03-16-2013 10:05 AM

I currently have a HP EX470 MediaSmart Home Server, running an older version of WHS. I want to upgrade to WHS 2011 and want to be able to do the following:
- Use this as an HTPC, with HDMI
- Use this as a media server for music, movies, photos
- Set up remote access
- Set up backup

Questions:
- Is it possible to use this as an HTPC? What upgrades do i need?
- Would this support the 64bit WHS 2011?

Thanks!

microkelvin 03-16-2013 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobcat255 (Post 58257944)
If the rest of your machines are Windows 7, then WS2008R2 or WHS. WHS is easiest to use/administer. If you're paying for your OS, it's also the cheapest.

If the rest of your machines are up to Windows 8, then WS2012 Essentials. This would be my choice due to Storage Spaces. You can inplace upgrade to WS2012 Standard to get Hyper-V role if you needed as well.

Other OS's will just act as a standard NAS, to which you can write data. For a home NAS, unRaid is hard to beat. You don't have to worry about multi-drive failures, OS failures, RAID controller failures, etc etc. I've entrusted my life to WS2012 Storage Spaces (ReFS is a lot like ZFS, if you're not familiar [wikipedia.org]) and so far so good.

most of my machines are XP.
the most priority feature is shadow copy or something similar to novell salvage.
i was looking at microsoft server 2008 or 2012 but it's exensive. server 2012 standard (10 clients) is $1500 just for the OS alone.

i looked at WHS but did not see shadow copy feature. Does it have it? How many clients can it support up to?

I am looking at an affordable OS that can store my main central files and monitor them. if i deleted them, i can recover them easily. so far shadow copy or novell salvage feature is exactly what i need.

BenderTheRobot 03-16-2013 10:13 AM

Don't see the 250GB HD on newegg's site.

No 250 GB hd..............................

Oh,

HP's site lists it [hp.com]. Whew...!

webjock 03-16-2013 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oopsz (Post 58259506)
Yeah, I upgraded from an N36L ($200 at NE) to a Primergy MX130 ($139 at NE). Dropped in a Phenom II X6 1045t ($89) and it's fast enough to transcode video in realtime.

The Primergy isn't as "clean" on the inside, doesn't have hot-swap drive bays, but it's smaller and is definitely more flexible.

The Primergy wipes the floor off these HP NL servers. It is simply a better value and machine. When it was $150, I picked a few up.
They're awesome little ESXi, OpenVZ, Xen servers.

They take the bulldozer 6-core 95w AM3+ cpus and go up to 32GB of RAM. I have a few running 16 & 32GB of RAM. Works awesome for a home lab. I have about 12 virtual machines running from my bedroom. Extremely versatile. I added a 5.25 front SATA dock and wired two extra e-SATA from the free SATA ports. I take my Vmware datastores home with me and shuttle them back to work.

unmesh 03-16-2013 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by webjock (Post 58260932)
The Primergy wipes the floor off these HP NL servers. It is simply a better value and machine. When it was $150, I picked a few up.
They're awesome little ESXi, OpenVZ, Xen servers.

They take the bulldozer 6-core 95w AM3+ cpus and go up to 32GB of RAM. I have a few running 16 & 32GB of RAM. Works awesome for a home lab. I have about 12 virtual machines running from my bedroom. Extremely versatile. I added a 5.25 front SATA dock and wired two extra e-SATA from the free SATA ports. I take my Vmware datastores home with me and shuttle them back to work.

How long ago were they available at these prices? NE currently shows them as discontinued.

PooMBA 03-16-2013 12:16 PM

May be I can install Windows 8 on this server. Does any one know Win 8 is on Technet for download. My Technet subscription expired while ago. I would renew it if it has Win 8.

Peterpan76 03-16-2013 12:30 PM

This is a great box!. Was able to get it last year and paid $80 bucks. Dont ask me how.

But have been running 24/7 for the last year. no problems. Super quiet.

xbmc htpc
time machine server
nzb server
torrent server

use it for basically everything.

z3razerviper 03-16-2013 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tulweyen (Post 58259272)
I'm not sure what S3 is, but I was thinking of buying this to upgrade my old Windows Media Center box that we watch ALL of our TV from. We do rely on the sleep function though. When we're done watching TV, we should just press the Power button that puts it to sleep.

Would that still be available on this board?

the ability for machine to sleep is part of the s3 power profile servers don't have that profile so no it won't be able to sleep

xsoulbrothax 03-16-2013 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unmesh (Post 58262004)
How long ago were they available at these prices? NE currently shows them as discontinued.

Same question here - NE has only out of stock open box, and Amazon has the S2 for $240ish after shipping [amazon.com] with non-prime merchants (only Prime/Amazon fulfilled is $400).

pglover19 03-16-2013 12:53 PM

Now that I have a HP N40L and N52L, I need to sell my HP MediaSmart EX490 server. I have a quad core Q9300 running in the EX490 but have not used it in 8 months... Not sure I need 3 microservers...

reelss 03-16-2013 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reelss (Post 58260280)
I currently have a HP EX470 MediaSmart Home Server, running an older version of WHS. I want to upgrade to WHS 2011 and want to be able to do the following:
- Use this as an HTPC, with HDMI
- Use this as a media server for music, movies, photos
- Set up remote access
- Set up backup

Questions:
- Is it possible to use this as an HTPC? What upgrades do i need?
- Would this support the 64bit WHS 2011?
- Does it support streaming 1080P content?
- What upgrades do i need to make this possible?

Thanks!

Anyone?

gregcain 03-16-2013 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by minhn (Post 58259978)
can i run ESXi on this?

I have the N45L, and it works great for ESXi. You'll want to get the memory up to 16GB, and I'd really recommend using a local SSD storage (or RAID) for any OSes you want to run.

Get the HP specific version of ESXi. It'll have the drivers you want built in.

galets 03-16-2013 01:46 PM

How is it possible to run ANYTHING serious considering power supply:

> 150W non-hot plug, non redundant power supply kit Multi-output

moomoo4me 03-16-2013 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kolaja (Post 58251666)
311.74 with CA taxes before rebate

same here

JasonR 03-16-2013 02:03 PM

like a G6

2devnull 03-16-2013 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gregcain (Post 58263168)
You'll want to get the memory up to 16GB

how? it maxes out at 8GB...no?

pglover19 03-16-2013 02:23 PM

Based on some research today, folks have had success with the following 16GB memory..


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Pro...6820148466

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Pro...alParent=1

Any other suggestions?

webjock 03-16-2013 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unmesh (Post 58262004)
How long ago were they available at these prices? NE currently shows them as discontinued.

Quote:

Originally Posted by xsoulbrothax (Post 58262494)
Same question here - NE has only out of stock open box, and Amazon has the S2 for $240ish after shipping [amazon.com] with non-prime merchants (only Prime/Amazon fulfilled is $400).

They were $150, $130 twice around August and September of last year at NewEgg.

2devnull 03-16-2013 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pglover19 (Post 58263656)
Based on some research today, folks have had success with the following 16GB memory..


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Pro...6820148466

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Pro...alParent=1

Any other suggestions?

does native OS and virtual OS pick this up, one or the other, need MoBo updates?

pglover19 03-16-2013 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2devnull (Post 58263688)
does native OS and virtual OS pick this up, one or the other, need MoBo updates?

Based on my research, the microserver does not need the BIOS update/modification to recognize the 16GB.. I would like others to confirm...

ghitz 03-16-2013 03:09 PM

Hey guys not sure this is a good deal but if you can build your own this is 10x better:
DQ77KB - 150
Power Brick: 8
CPU: g2020 60
memory 16 gb: 60
Case: this is tough to match.

If any of these HP servers could take a standard mITX board it would be awesome for later updates.
2GB shipping on this is pretty lame, ECC and all still.

dealmonkey 03-16-2013 03:12 PM

For serving files, wouldnt a NAS be good enough or is this better?

senmun 03-16-2013 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2devnull (Post 58263588)
how? it maxes out at 8GB...no?

Only review on newegg claims to use 16gb.

ghitz 03-16-2013 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dealmonkey (Post 58264346)
For serving files, wouldnt a NAS be good enough or is this better?

Well this can be a NAS as well. You may be able to install freenas or just run it as a windows box and use the Windows software RAID I find it's pretty reliable.

Ananke 03-16-2013 03:39 PM

this is so tempting...why-o-why nobody has a case like this for a mini ITX? Lian Li Q25 is the closest resemble, but I want front USB and phone jacks...besides LL is so expensive...

ghitz 03-16-2013 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ananke (Post 58264668)
this is so tempting...why-o-why nobody has a case like this for a mini ITX? Lian Li Q25 is the closest resemble, but I want front USB and phone jacks...besides LL is so expensive...

I hear you, the Q25 is big too.

howiez 03-16-2013 03:40 PM

I pulled the trigger. I had helped set up an N40L for a friends small business out of his office, and it seemed like a nice little unit. We set it up with WHS2011 on the 250g and added 1TB internal for shared network files. Then he wanted a redundant backup to replace a fitful WD USB drive. We did Raid 5 in a SansDigital box on 3x1TB external eSATA drive for backups of server data and his business laptop. I think I'll move the 250 to the optical bay and put 2x2TB in to backup my HTPC 2x2TB worth of media. Then maybe a couple 320g have laying around for backing up family pc's around the house. Nice find OP!

Big Wang 03-16-2013 03:46 PM

does this support hardware or software RAID?

ghitz 03-16-2013 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ananke (Post 58264668)
this is so tempting...why-o-why nobody has a case like this for a mini ITX? Lian Li Q25 is the closest resemble, but I want front USB and phone jacks...besides LL is so expensive...

Like I said, man if anybody will build us a case like this HP box to use standard parts in it, that would be instantly a major winner in my book! I looked for months for the ideal case with 4 3.5 HDDs in this size it's non existent. arrggg I need more control over the internal hardware. this HP box will not take 3 TB drives, it's a bit inefficient at idle, the internal pcie slots are finicky,power supply I read it's noisy, etc.

ionz 03-16-2013 03:52 PM

I've been trying to figure this out but how bays is in this thing?
And does it have removable trays like the n40l?

Fantasysage 03-16-2013 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ionz (Post 58264852)
I've been trying to figure this out but how bays is in this thing?
And does it have removable trays like the n40l?

It is the same thing as the N40l but with a higher TDP and higher clocked CPU.

Tozmo 03-16-2013 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ionz (Post 58264852)
I've been trying to figure this out but how bays is in this thing?
And does it have removable trays like the n40l?

4 official, max 6 3.5"

N40l.wikia.com

mjzglr 03-16-2013 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by microkelvin (Post 58255304)
i need a cheapest and reliable OS which supports data storage/backup with shadow copy or something similar to novell salvage.

I run Solaris 11 with zfs on mine. You can also run Ubuntu server with zfs for Linux. Love mine with 8gb ecc. About 50-60W.

dj-3lusion 03-16-2013 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ghitz (Post 58264292)
Hey guys not sure this is a good deal but if you can build your own this is 10x better:
DQ77KB - 150
Power Brick: 8
CPU: g2020 60
memory 16 gb: 60
Case: this is tough to match.

If any of these HP servers could take a standard mITX board it would be awesome for later updates.
2GB shipping on this is pretty lame, ECC and all still.

16gb memory for $60 where oh where please?. :) the caveats are generally finding a nice case and also a hot swap 4 bay tray. otherwise yeah that would be a way better option.

dj-3lusion 03-16-2013 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ananke (Post 58264668)
this is so tempting...why-o-why nobody has a case like this for a mini ITX? Lian Li Q25 is the closest resemble, but I want front USB and phone jacks...besides LL is so expensive...

thank you ive been saying this for about 10 years.. sadly you must comply and buy a microserver or gtfo :( well some day someone will make a case etc

bluewhackadoo 03-16-2013 07:38 PM

Does this qualify for free shipping by DHL to Canada?

bankingdom 03-16-2013 07:50 PM

Right now I have a i7 dell xps 8500 as my server. I use it as a medial server. I know it is over kill but I have 16 IP cameras and use it as a NVR as well.

Would this thing be able to handle blue iris with 16 1.3MP cameras? As well as media server???

Is anyone using this with Blue Iris as a 24/7 NVR?

Thanks!

bluewhackadoo 03-16-2013 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bankingdom (Post 58268188)
Right now I have a i7 dell xps 8500 as my server. I use it as a medial server. I know it is over kill but I have 16 IP cameras and use it as a NVR as well.

Would this thing be able to handle blue iris with 16 1.3MP cameras? As well as media server???

Is anyone using this with Blue Iris as a 24/7 NVR?

Thanks!

Blue Iris is an amazing amazing product for the price. Love those guys. No comment on the other stuff.

microkelvin 03-16-2013 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mjzglr (Post 58266048)
I run Solaris 11 with zfs on mine. You can also run Ubuntu server with zfs for Linux. Love mine with 8gb ecc. About 50-60W.

do they have salvage or shadow copy feature? i need that.

g725s 03-16-2013 08:11 PM

good deal for those who got it for $239 without tax, or even with tax still a good deal on this little server box.

Ozzuneoj 03-16-2013 08:14 PM

What exactly makes this better for server purposes than a custom built system with newer and less expensive components? A 2.2Ghz Turion 2 isn't bad but it isn't very fast either. Plus, its quite outdated (3-4 years old) so despite it being a mobile 35 watt TDP CPU you'd probably have better power efficiency with a newer desktop chip.

g725s 03-16-2013 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reelss (Post 58262664)
Anyone?

Yes to all your questions. You should look over at the XBMC forum where others posted and have used the N36L and N40L, same box different processor as HTPC/Server. Also maybe check over at Homeservershow.com regarding other questions, they have a dedicated Microserver forum. [homeservershow.com]

joogle 03-16-2013 08:27 PM

your right for $240 i would say build your own server.

i have the N40L and I got it for i think $99 a year or so back, love it, at that price point.

best thing about these boxes i can say is their compact size, they have a nice motherborad tray if you need to pull out to upgrade ram. the hard drive slots are very easy to access.

it is a very tiny box that is very quiet

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptNKILL (Post 58268436)
What exactly makes this better for server purposes than a custom built system with newer and less expensive components? A 2.2Ghz Turion 2 isn't bad but it isn't very fast either. Plus, its quite outdated (3-4 years old) so despite it being a mobile 35 watt TDP CPU you'd probably have better power efficiency with a newer desktop chip.


sehlceris 03-16-2013 08:43 PM

What is the advantage of using this system as a server, over, say, this deal:

http://slickdeals.net/f/5909012-s...for-380-AC

Seems to me that you're paying a premium for underpowered hardware just because it's got a "Server" label on it.

BoomSchtick 03-16-2013 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hrshycro (Post 58254120)
Will this work as a Plex Server?

I don't think the CPU in this has the chops to do the transcoding required by plex.

Ozzuneoj 03-16-2013 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joogle (Post 58268648)
your right for $240 i would say build your own server.

i have the N40L and I got it for i think $99 a year or so back, love it, at that price point.

best thing about these boxes i can say is their compact size, they have a nice motherborad tray if you need to pull out to upgrade ram. the hard drive slots are very easy to access.

it is a very tiny box that is very quiet

For $99 it absolutely would be a good deal, for many different uses actually. For $240 though... not so much. And especially not for $289.

A board with a built in Celeron 847 will be significantly more power efficient (Sandy Bridge 17w CPU) and probably wouldn't perform much slower. Those can be had for around $80.

If you want more power, a brand new Celeron G1610 (Ivy Bridge 55w) would knock the pants off the Turion II performance wise, and could be bought with a decent board for $100-$110.

Throw in a small case and PSU, RAM and a hard drive or SSD and the price wouldn't be much different than this system.

As far as I can tell, all you're getting extra with this Proliant is a prebuilt system (less time involved) and ECC memory.

If you really need a server, hit up eBay. Last summer I put together two nearly identical systems, one running a Supermicro ATX (almost micro) board with an Intel 5100 chipset, 8Gb unbuffered ECC DDR2, and two 50 watt Quad core Xeon L5420 2.5Ghz 12Mb CPUs, and the other with two dual core 40 watt Xeon L5240 3Ghz 6Mb CPUs. All together, all four CPUs cost me less than $40 (yes, TOTAL... look them up!), the boards were $60 a piece, and the RAM was about $30 total (that was the only unusually good deal) plus $60 for four Xeon heat sinks and some other accessories. These things are monster performers for the money, and they are very power efficient. The one with the two dual core 3Ghz CPUs is my HTPC and with a fairly robust GPU thrown in (low profile GTS 250) the system idles at barely 100 watts.

Obviously, it takes more time to put something like this together, but when all was said and done, I put $200-$250 into each of these (counting the cost of parts I already had, such as the GTS 250).

mjzglr 03-16-2013 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by microkelvin (Post 58268296)
do they have salvage or shadow copy feature? i need that.

Yes that's what zfs does. You can also use file history on win8.

trza 03-16-2013 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sehlceris (Post 58268876)
What is the advantage of using this system as a server, over, say, this deal:

http://slickdeals.net/f/5909012-s...for-380-AC

Seems to me that you're paying a premium for underpowered hardware just because it's got a "Server" label on it.

This is a nice little box made to be small, quiet, power-efficient, and take up little space.It's also significantly cheaper (could buy a 3TB drive with the difference). You can do a little hacking and get 5 RAIDed drives in it. There are applications where the N54L's build would be preferential.

It's hard to go into all the details, but if cheap Lenovo PCs made better servers than servers, we wouldn't want little servers like this.

Ananke 03-16-2013 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptNKILL (Post 58268436)
What exactly makes this better for server purposes than a custom built system with newer and less expensive components? A 2.2Ghz Turion 2 isn't bad but it isn't very fast either. Plus, its quite outdated (3-4 years old) so despite it being a mobile 35 watt TDP CPU you'd probably have better power efficiency with a newer desktop chip.

The case is nice looking, very functional and compact. HDDs have front loading tray.
I built mine, but always wish to have a case like this.

ViRaL 03-16-2013 10:24 PM

Bit the bullet. I know it's not the most powerful system, but it's complete and it's compact with a lot of other perks.

hackel 03-16-2013 11:02 PM

I was tempted, but USB 2.0 and no HDMI kills it for me. eSATA is nice, but none of my drives support it.

bschrib 03-17-2013 12:18 AM

Great deal!

Samwise Gamgee 03-17-2013 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by microkelvin (Post 58255304)
i need a cheapest and reliable OS which supports data storage/backup with shadow copy or something similar to novell salvage.

Windows 2008 is free from dreamspark.

Windows 2012 standard is free from another similar Microsoft program, but I forget the name at the moment. You get 5 licenses.

I do not know if either does shadow copy.

I'm running the Windows 2012 now on N40L.

Samwise Gamgee 03-17-2013 02:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joogle (Post 58268648)
your right for $240 i would say build your own server.

i have the N40L and I got it for i think $99 a year or so back, love it, at that price point.

best thing about these boxes i can say is their compact size, they have a nice motherborad tray if you need to pull out to upgrade ram. the hard drive slots are very easy to access.

it is a very tiny box that is very quiet

I would have to agree. I got the n40l for about $150.

(HP had a price mistake on a desktop pc, and gave folks a $200 off coupon, which I then immediately bought the n40l from HP.)

At $240 it is kind of expensive for what you are getting.

I really wanted it too for $240. Because it's usually around $310, and the lower price shows up once a while. Perhaps newegg does that on purpose.

In hindsight, if you could build something quiet; 16gb ram (n40l is limited to 8gb); compact size; hold many hard drives; gigabit network port; hdmi ... I would rather go that route.

Linoleum 03-17-2013 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dj-3lusion (Post 58267844)
16gb memory for $60 where oh where please?. :) the caveats are generally finding a nice case and also a hot swap 4 bay tray. otherwise yeah that would be a way better option.

Agreed. You will be lucky to find decent 16gb for around $80.

brbubba 03-17-2013 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dealmonkey (Post 58264346)
For serving files, wouldnt a NAS be good enough or is this better?

This is wayyyy cheaper than a 4 bay NAS.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dj-3lusion (Post 58267844)
16gb memory for $60 where oh where please?. :) the caveats are generally finding a nice case and also a hot swap 4 bay tray. otherwise yeah that would be a way better option.

Agreed, particularly not ECC RAM.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptNKILL (Post 58268436)
What exactly makes this better for server purposes than a custom built system with newer and less expensive components? A 2.2Ghz Turion 2 isn't bad but it isn't very fast either. Plus, its quite outdated (3-4 years old) so despite it being a mobile 35 watt TDP CPU you'd probably have better power efficiency with a newer desktop chip.

Go spec it out and find a case with hot swap or this form factor. Market may have changed since I bought my N36L, but at the time nothing could touch it. Also for a file server speed isn't an issue. If you want to transcode look somewhere else, although at this stage in the game no one should be transcoding anything.

sbant 03-17-2013 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samwise Gamgee (Post 58271776)
Quote:

Originally Posted by microkelvin (Post 58255304)
i need a cheapest and reliable OS which supports data storage/backup with shadow copy or something similar to novell salvage.

Windows 2008 is free from dreamspark.

Windows 2012 standard is free from another similar Microsoft program, but I forget the name at the moment. You get 5 licenses.

I do not know if either does shadow copy.

I'm running the Windows 2012 now on N40L.

I was planning to run WHS 2011, but if I could get 2012 Standard for free I'd probably change my mind. Any chance you can remember the name of the program? TIA

Sent from the official Slickdeals App for iPhone & iPod Touch.

bankingdom 03-17-2013 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bankingdom (Post 58268188)
Right now I have a i7 dell xps 8500 as my server. I use it as a medial server. I know it is over kill but I have 16 IP cameras and use it as a NVR as well.

Would this thing be able to handle blue iris with 16 1.3MP cameras? As well as media server???

Is anyone using this with Blue Iris as a 24/7 NVR?

Thanks!

Anyone have an idea if this could run a 24/7 nvr for IP cameras?

xsoulbrothax 03-17-2013 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brbubba (Post 58273800)
Agreed, particularly not ECC RAM.

IIRC the trick (with the N40L, at least) was that throwing in non-ECC RAM let you do 16GB, e.g. posts like this [hardforum.com] in [H]. We've got a ton of these things at work, though I don't know if I can find loose 8GB sticks lying around to test with.

inquisitive 03-17-2013 11:19 AM

i guess you can use this to start a file sharing site...lol

microkelvin 03-17-2013 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samwise Gamgee (Post 58271776)
Windows 2008 is free from dreamspark.

Windows 2012 standard is free from another similar Microsoft program, but I forget the name at the moment. You get 5 licenses.

I do not know if either does shadow copy.

I'm running the Windows 2012 now on N40L.

how are they free when they are $1500 from microsoft?
unless i have to be on some kind of academics program?

i am sure both windows 2008 & 2012 servers have shadow copy.

fpsmania 03-17-2013 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sbant (Post 58274126)
I was planning to run WHS 2011, but if I could get 2012 Standard for free I'd probably change my mind. Any chance you can remember the name of the program? TIA]

Looks like the name is "WebsiteSpark [matthill.eu]", but is no longer avail.

Tulweyen 03-17-2013 02:16 PM

Can anyone confirm is this system supports full SLEEP functionality? This is critical for me as I plan to use it for my HTPC.

z3razerviper 03-17-2013 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tulweyen (Post 58279630)
Can anyone confirm is this system supports full SLEEP functionality? This is critical for me as I plan to use it for my HTPC.

This system will absolutely 100% NOT support sleep it is a real server and it does not support S3

brbubba 03-17-2013 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bankingdom (Post 58274216)
Anyone have an idea if this could run a 24/7 nvr for IP cameras?

Looks like you could setup something like zoneminder with a linux install or some other windows software if you are more comfortable with that. I guess the issue is going to be CPU, but I found the spec sheet for IndigoVision's videobridge software and they say 16 streams only requires a Pentium 3 1ghz class processor. So with specs that low I'm guessing these systems just dump raw mp4, or whatever format it is, video onto the hard drive.

F2a 03-18-2013 12:48 AM

code expired.

motaku96 03-18-2013 06:23 AM

Darn. Would've probably jumped on it if it just lasted one more day.

Ostracus 03-18-2013 07:54 AM

Lenovo ThinkServer TS130 Tower Server System Intel Core i3-3220 3.3GHz 2C/4T 4GB No Hard Drive 1105B2U
Free Enclosure w/ Purchase! Limit 1 per customer.
$299.19
With Promo Code: EMCYTZT3118
After $50 MIR with Free Shipping!

brbubba 03-18-2013 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ostracus (Post 58291524)
Lenovo ThinkServer TS130 Tower Server System Intel Core i3-3220 3.3GHz 2C/4T 4GB No Hard Drive 1105B2U
Free Enclosure w/ Purchase! Limit 1 per customer.
$299.19
With Promo Code: EMCYTZT3118
After $50 MIR with Free Shipping!

Storage options for internal drives look pretty crappy.

teknoman 03-18-2013 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ostracus (Post 58291524)
Lenovo ThinkServer TS130 Tower Server System Intel Core i3-3220 3.3GHz 2C/4T 4GB No Hard Drive 1105B2U
Free Enclosure w/ Purchase! Limit 1 per customer.
$299.19
With Promo Code: EMCYTZT3118
After $50 MIR with Free Shipping!

Hey thanks, no S3 on this HP Microserver was kinda a deal breaker for me. I just want a redundant centralized file storage, and it's not going to be that frequently accessed. I haven't kept up-to-date with Lenovo's offerings, I only last knew of their IdeaCentre stuff.

Looks like a lot of potential for me, thanks! USB 3.0, Intel Core i3, room for lots of RAM and full height PCIe cards...

Quote:

Originally Posted by brbubba (Post 58291966)
Storage options for internal drives look pretty crappy.

Not really sure what you mean: looks like this takes standard SATA drives. No built-in hardware RAID-5 though, but the HP didn't have that either. Should be able to add in a RAID card. And you can use the 5.25 bays for extra drives (and take out the DVD drive). Wonder if anyone makes a 5.25 4-bay 2.5" drive mount...

brbubba 03-18-2013 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by teknoman (Post 58299618)
Not really sure what you mean: looks like this takes standard SATA drives. No built-in hardware RAID-5 though, but the HP didn't have that either. Should be able to add in a RAID card. And you can use the 5.25 bays for extra drives (and take out the DVD drive). Wonder if anyone makes a 5.25 4-bay 2.5" drive mount...

It doesn't look like there's enough brackets for 4 3.5" drives which the HP has by default. You can buy a 5.25" 4 slot 2.5" mount, people have installed them on the HP.

Heckler 03-18-2013 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by teknoman (Post 58299618)
Wonder if anyone makes a 5.25 4-bay 2.5" drive mount...

Yes. IcyDock.

They also make one that has 2-bay 2.5" and 1-bay 5.25" slim for an optical drive all in one full-height 5.25" bay.

teknoman 03-18-2013 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by brbubba (Post 58301846)
It doesn't look like there's enough brackets for 4 3.5" drives which the HP has by default. You can buy a 5.25" 4 slot 2.5" mount, people have installed them on the HP.

Ah ok yea, that's what I figured you must've meant. It is kinda lame that the Lenovo doesn't have mountings for 4 x 3.5" drives, but workaround is taking out the DVD drive. Guess they just repurposed a small tower chassis instead of using a more storage-oriented chassis.

jackass124 03-19-2013 12:54 AM

So what's the word on which inexpensive ram to use for the 16gb upgrade?

pglover19 03-19-2013 05:42 PM

Trying to find the best deal on Windows Server 2012 Essentials.. Any recommendation?

techiemd 03-20-2013 04:28 PM

Good deals on Add Ons?
 
I got this deal, thanks slickdeals.
-I'm going to run the OS on an SSD and not have an optical drive. Apparently that's possible.

Now looking for good deals on good add ons... what might be good add ons?

-Western Digital Red drives 2 to 3 TB
-?Wifi AC USB stick (for internal usb port?)
-?USB3 PCIe card
-?Graphics card? -- the ones I see require lots of wattage.. and the PCIe slot on the motherboard says 25W. I think the power supply is only 150W. Maybe a cheap graphics card that can play 1080p with HDMI out with sound...
-?Sound card?

What else should I add?

-What do you all think about using the internal USB port to add Wifi AC networking? http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-Wire...B009AR2MFK

Something like this?

Ostracus 03-20-2013 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by techiemd (Post 58355134)
I got this deal, thanks slickdeals.
-I'm going to run the OS on an SSD and not have an optical drive. Apparently that's possible.

Now looking for good deals on good add ons... what might be good add ons?

-Western Digital Red drives 2 to 3 TB
-?Wifi AC USB stick (for internal usb port?)
-?USB3 PCIe card
-?Graphics card? -- the ones I see require lots of wattage.. and the PCIe slot on the motherboard says 25W. I think the power supply is only 150W. Maybe a cheap graphics card that can play 1080p with HDMI out with sound...
-?Sound card?

What else should I add?

-What do you all think about using the internal USB port to add Wifi AC networking? http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-Wire...B009AR2MFK

Something like this?

Would preform poorly if at all. Remember, metal cage. They make tiny USB WiFi dongles that can fit in the front or back USB port.

http://www.meritline.com/airlink1...38742.aspx

linoox 03-20-2013 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by pglover19 (Post 58330456)
Trying to find the best deal on Windows Server 2012 Essentials.. Any recommendation?

Yikes! The license costs more than the N54L itself. Since you brought it up, I googled it and found to be quite pricey. Superbiiz sells it for $380. Newegg is $450. :eek:

If you have a DreamSpark account, you can get it for free. I just downloaded mine. Now I'm trying to figure out what to do with the box since I don't have any experience working with these microservers.

Btw, I just received mine today. The package is really small. Not what I expected which is a good thing. :)

pglover19 03-20-2013 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by linoox (Post 58356854)
Yikes! The license costs more than the N54L itself. Since you brought it up, I googled it and found to be quite pricey. Superbiiz sells it for $380. Newegg is $450. :eek:

If you have a DreamSpark account, you can get it for free. I just downloaded mine. Now I'm trying to figure out what to do with the box since I don't have any experience working with these microservers.

Btw, I just received mine today. The package is really small. Not what I expected which is a good thing. :)

Just sent you a PM...

jackass124 03-20-2013 09:54 PM

can somebody give advice on the 16gb ram upgrade for this?? mine just arrived! wanna get this baby rolling! :)

techiemd 03-21-2013 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jackass124 (Post 58361180)
can somebody give advice on the 16gb ram upgrade for this?? mine just arrived! wanna get this baby rolling! :)

Hmm, did I get a faulty unit? Mine came with a 250gb hard drive that I was going to use as a mirror of an SSD that I run the OS on. Then I was going to use the other slots as mass storage. I don't have the other drives yet and wanted to play with it.. but the 250gb stock hard drive doesn't even show up in the BIOS. I tried installing Ubuntu Server from a flashdrive and it doesn't recognize the hard drive.
The hard drive seems to spin... I can feel it slightly vibrating when the unit is on...

Does the stock HD work for everyone else?

Ostracus 03-21-2013 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by techiemd (Post 58381502)
Hmm, did I get a faulty unit? Mine came with a 250gb hard drive that I was going to use as a mirror of an SSD that I run the OS on. Then I was going to use the other slots as mass storage. I don't have the other drives yet and wanted to play with it.. but the 250gb stock hard drive doesn't even show up in the BIOS. I tried installing Ubuntu Server from a flashdrive and it doesn't recognize the hard drive.
The hard drive seems to spin... I can feel it slightly vibrating when the unit is on...

Does the stock HD work for everyone else?

Should, make certain it's seated good.

techiemd 03-21-2013 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Ostracus (Post 58381736)
Should, make certain it's seated good.

It definitely is seated good... the connection is plugged in.
There are no jumpers on it at all. It didn't come with jumpers. are those necessary?'



EDIT: It was the SAS cable apparently. I unplugged it and plugged it in again.. pressing down really firmly...

Gregorykay 03-21-2013 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jackass124 (Post 58361180)
can somebody give advice on the 16gb ram upgrade for this?? mine just arrived! wanna get this baby rolling! :)

According to a Newegg review on this microserver, this memory [newegg.com] can be used to grant 16 gb. I also read somewhere that you may have to reboot the computer 3 times for the PC to recognize the memory.

Btw, if you plan on leaving this server running 24/7, look to get ECC memory, although more expensive than NON-ECC.

jackass124 03-22-2013 12:36 AM

i recall putting 8GB cheaper Kingston ram in my n40l and having no problem..it wasnt ECC and the server is on 24/7...no problems...so, is ECC essential? also, did RAM prices go way up? I thought I got the n40l ram way cheaper than some prices I am seeing!

(*in fact, I paid $35 for 8GB of 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Desktop Memory Model KVR1333D3N9K2/8G back in December 2011!)

Samwise Gamgee 03-22-2013 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by jackass124 (Post 58386768)
i recall putting 8GB cheaper Kingston ram in my n40l and having no problem..it wasnt ECC and the server is on 24/7...no problems...so, is ECC essential? also, did RAM prices go way up? I thought I got the n40l ram way cheaper than some prices I am seeing!

(*in fact, I paid $35 for 8GB of 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Desktop Memory Model KVR1333D3N9K2/8G back in December 2011!)

I use this non-ecc ram and it works fine. I buy from Frys when it's around $35 AR.

I like these "desktop memory" because I can also use them on desktop motherboards.

When I got free AR motherboards from Newegg, I was able to use them to test the motherboards. Once I found the motherboard were fine, I bought more of the same ram, when they became on sale again AR.

Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1333MHz DDR3 240-Pin Desktop Memory
http://www.frys.com/product/6906857

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Originally Posted by jackass124 (Post 58361180)
can somebody give advice on the 16gb ram upgrade for this?? mine just arrived! wanna get this baby rolling! :)

I believe you can only put 8gb max.

brbubba 03-22-2013 05:45 AM

The issue isn't that non-ecc RAM will work fine folks, the issue is how much do you value your data?
http://research.cs.wisc.edu/wind/...fast10.pdf
http://www.cs.toronto.edu/~bianca...rics09.pdf

phidler 03-22-2013 09:30 AM

Memory prices have definitely gone up over the last 6 months. DRAM manufacturers have cut wafer starts and shifted production to more profitable market segments like NAND and mobile ram. Don't wait to buy memory as prices will go up especially for non PC type modules which is what you should be putting into this machine.

techiemd 03-25-2013 04:05 AM

Post the UPC
 
Hi All,
Can someone please post a nice quality photo of the UPC code?
My roommate accidentally threw out my box!
I'm still going to try to send in the rebate... hoping I can still make this slick deal
Thanks!


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