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starwarsjunkie 05-21-2013 07:24 AM

Angie's list members get $20 Lowes.com gift card for $5
 
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Must be an Angies List member

http://click.thebigdeal.angieslis...a3eb747b7e


Not sure if this is invitation only...please excuse if it is.

DEAL DEAD

wikipost 05-21-2013 07:24 AM

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Halosfan2005 05-21-2013 07:28 AM

Got one, thx!

Mummel 05-21-2013 07:28 AM

Yeah right, last time they cancelled everything and stole our info. Fool me once....

averagepunter 05-21-2013 07:30 AM

Worked for me. Thanks OP.

mddolloff 05-21-2013 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mummel (Post 59584254)
Yeah right, last time they cancelled everything and stole our info. Fool me once....

I got mine last time with no issue.

Bad_Boy 05-21-2013 07:33 AM

Eff u Angie m not paying $26 for the membership

gyzo33 05-21-2013 07:34 AM

Can't believe there are members here that are also members of Angie's list.. SMH...

TBotzon 05-21-2013 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by averagepunter (Post 59584312)
Worked for me. Thanks OP.

Thanks! Repped

shopperuvdealz 05-21-2013 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by starwarsjunkie (Post 59584162)
Must be an Angies List member

http://click.thebigdeal.angieslis...a3eb747b7e


Not sure if this is invitation only...please excuse if it is.

Must be a member.
It costs $3.25 to be a member for a month.

Monthly: $3.25 Account
Activation Fee: $5.00
Total: $8.25

bigboy2007 05-21-2013 07:36 AM

Sweet! In for one!

hytek369 05-21-2013 07:36 AM

This will be my 3rd one :)

Eagles89 05-21-2013 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shopperuvdealz (Post 59584458)
Must be a member.
It costs $3.25 to be a member for a month.

They charge a $10 signup fee...so actually $13.25. The signup fee is how you know this company is shady.

bigboy2007 05-21-2013 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gyzo33 (Post 59584420)
Can't believe there are members here that are also members of Angie's list.. SMH...

Well, suit yourself. I'll tell you right now that Angie's List membership paid for itself many times over for me.

I guess it depends on your situation. I moved houses 6 months ago so had multiple things I needed to do myself and had to contract out, from a move, to changing the water heater in the attic (most recent). I always research my options well and believe you me - it was totally worth it so far. Especially if you find a slick deal for $14 membership / year. :)

savemybucks 05-21-2013 07:40 AM

I used code CLEAN30 to give me 40% off membership and then checked out with paypal for additional 20% discount.

so my total was around $3.96 + $5 for card = $8.96 for $20 Lowes gift card. Not a bad deal I guess

shopperuvdealz 05-21-2013 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eagles89 (Post 59584514)
They charge a $10 signup fee...so actually $13.25. The signup fee is how you know this company is shady.

It was a $5.00 Account Activation Fee for me. I passed as I would be paying $8.25 plus $5 for the $20 giftcard.$13.25 not worth it for me.

gyzo33 05-21-2013 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigboy2007 (Post 59584552)
Well, suit yourself. I'll tell you right now that Angie's List membership paid for itself many times over for me.

I guess it depends on your situation. I moved houses 6 months ago so had multiple things I needed to do myself and had to contract out, from a move, to changing the water heater in the attic (most recent). I always research my options well and believe you me - it was totally worth it so far. Especially if you find a slick deal for $14 membership / year. :)

http://technorati.com/business/ar...nd-busted/

" if you're a school teacher, two A's and one C nicely come out between a B-A (if graded on the curve). Why mention this? Simple: two of said company's best buddies can pay the small fee, leave their good review under the radar and get reimbursed by said company."

Halosfan2005 05-21-2013 07:43 AM

Angie's list has saved me so much money. My best find was an honest mechanic. He's saved me 100's alone.

I also got my membership for $14. I can't believe a slick dealer thinks he has to pay $26, bahahah!

amandax53 05-21-2013 07:47 AM

Advertised as a gift card, it appears to be a coupon code after you purchase. Important to know if you already planned on using a 10% off lowes coupon code (which would be worth $40 dollars to me) on a purchase I plan on making soon.

mod_xx 05-21-2013 07:47 AM

Thanks! Repped

BTW, how does it work? Am I going to get physical gift card or using the coupon code to pay at Lowes? Thanks

Halosfan2005 05-21-2013 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amandax53 (Post 59584716)
Advertised as a gift card, it appears to be a coupon code after you purchase. Important to know if you already planned on using a 10% off lowes coupon code (which would be worth $40 dollars to me) on a purchase I plan on making soon.


At the bottom:

"Your gift card will be mailed within 15 business days

The confirmation email you will receive is not your gift card, you will be mailed a gift card via USPS."

wootwootwoot 05-21-2013 07:49 AM

Interesting.

I saw a report on TV that Angies List asks contractors for money to give them a higher ranking.

I don't trust them and the sneaky signup fee confirms my belief.

jhooper 05-21-2013 07:53 AM

Isn't that like a paid version of Craigslist that no one uses?

Jakeafella 05-21-2013 07:53 AM

I will add to the list of doing this before and having it cancelled.

donnnster 05-21-2013 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shopperuvdealz (Post 59584602)
It was a $5.00 Account Activation Fee for me. I passed as I would be paying $8.25 plus $5 for the $20 giftcard.$13.25 not worth it for me.

odd i guess everyone has a different activation fee cost? Mine was $10 too.

johnec4 05-21-2013 07:56 AM

in!

afaik i have a free membership. i think it was because i live in a town where angieslist was just expanding into so they just wanted members? i dunno.

suprcharg 05-21-2013 07:59 AM

used clean30 as posted above and paypal = 8.16 for one year.
5 more bucks for the $20 Lowes GC=
year of Angies List and $20 Lowes GC for 13.16
Works for me!
Thanks!!!

USMCSaxman 05-21-2013 07:59 AM

Thanks OP!!!! Got one. Great deal!!!!

mrgodai 05-21-2013 08:04 AM

they will call you many many many times to renew after your membership expire.

alkingson 05-21-2013 08:05 AM

Thanks OP got one I was already member

agentkhiem 05-21-2013 08:07 AM

Isn't this the one where everyone got mad at them? http://slickdeals.net/permadeal/88324/angies-list-20-lowes-gift-card?page=9#comments

AznCracker 05-21-2013 08:07 AM

lol the site is down... SD??

xman099 05-21-2013 08:19 AM

Bought one month membership before made the GC order, but I still got charged $29.55 for one-year when I made the GC order using paypal, did I miss something during the checking out?

nottrollin 05-21-2013 08:21 AM

You can also try LAWN30 as a 40% off code,then cancel after a month of membership.I used Angies list to find a dentist and doctor after my company switched providers. I found the reviews to be very helpful and it was well worth the cost of one month's membership.

canaanx 05-21-2013 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gyzo33 (Post 59584420)
Can't believe there are members here that are also members of Angie's list.. SMH...

Angie's List has more than paid for itself each year that I've had it.

Quick example: Through Angie's list we found a guy who tiled the kitchen floor for hundreds less than anyone else was willing to do it for but who had excellent references on AL. He did an awesome job. Months later when I screwed up a compression joint while replacing the sink I called him to fix my mistake and he did it and refused to charge me for it since it was an easy fix. THAT's the value of Angie's List for me. And he isn't the only really great contractor I've found through them... Anyway, for what it's worth.

VadimNYC 05-21-2013 08:24 AM

refuse to pay for craigslist/groupon combo lol.

Jabbit 05-21-2013 08:24 AM

I have a free membership with them, for some reason. This worked back in Jan. so I hope I get another gift card. If you click the "Pay with Paypal" link, you do NOT have to check the "Agree to terms and conditions" box. At least I didn't. Good luck!

manfre 05-21-2013 08:27 AM

Thanks! Worked for me the last time they offered this deal and already have a membership.

bozarbozar 05-21-2013 08:28 AM

I subscribe to Angie's List and I think it was worth it to find my dentist, doctor, vet, and mechanic. I'm happy considering the price of the subscription versus the time I've spent before with bad providers.

On another note, what's with this review?

"Great. I bought the Big Deal and received my gift card within about 2 weeks."

It was posted today which makes no sense.

Turbonator 05-21-2013 08:28 AM

What kind of company is Angie's list??? Take a look...

http://bucks.blogs.nytimes.com/20...gies-list/

http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Ang...net-364982

http://livingstingy.blogspot.com/...waste.html

http://www.pissedconsumer.com/rev...33610.html

auxiliary 05-21-2013 08:31 AM

nice, paid for itself. I think i joined with groupon for like $15 a year i think.

DesertFlower789 05-21-2013 08:32 AM

I joined Angie's List...and more than one contractor mentioned that he had to pay her site hundreds a month to stay in the top 5 listings. And could pay to get bad reviews taken off.

Trolololo 05-21-2013 08:33 AM

i used angielist, save me so much money when i need to find a plumber, handyman, painter, carpet guy, AC repair guy, tile and grout cleaner. angielist helped me find so much honest peoples and i support small businesses since most big corporation rip u off.

angielist is cheap if you find the right coupon when sign up i paid $20 a year for mine and it work best for my 6 investment homes. it pay u back a lot

it might seems like craigslist/groupon/yelp together but this is why i like them, u don't see company keep making up fake account and give themselve review to make them look high

bobo_saan 05-21-2013 08:34 AM

LOL Scamngieslist... not a good deal but nice try.

localHero 05-21-2013 08:35 AM

Well I bit using the above coupons and discounts. I'd been wanting to see what AL was like but didn't want to pay the fees so this makes it not only no fee but a few $ kicked my way. (I buy stuff at Lowes all the time)
We'll see how AL works out, good or bad but at least it won't cost me anythign to find out.

MatthewS02 05-21-2013 08:35 AM

Got one since I'm already an Angies List member!

Moooshe 05-21-2013 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trolololo (Post 59585820)
it might seems like craigslist/groupon/yelp together but this is why i like them, u don't see company keep making up fake account and give themselve review to make them look high

How do you know those service providers don't make a $20 account and recommend themselves? Or even better, open many trial accounts and do that...

MikeE21286 05-21-2013 08:36 AM

Worked out well. Already had an Angie'ls list membership

Thanks OP!

jbloggs 05-21-2013 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jhooper (Post 59584862)
Isn't that like a paid version of Craigslist that no one uses?

No, its more like paid version of Yelp or Kudzu

Quote:

Originally Posted by suprcharg (Post 59584998)
used clean30 as posted above and paypal = 8.16 for one year.
5 more bucks for the $20 Lowes GC=
year of Angies List and $20 Lowes GC for 13.16
Works for me!
Thanks!!!

That doesn't sound right unless your base yearly membership was less the $26.

Following is what I see

Term:1 Year
$26.00 Angie’s List Home
$10.25 Angie’s List Health
$0.00 Angie’s List Classic Cars
- $7.25 Bundle Discount What’s this?
- $11.60 Promo Code:CLEAN30
- $3.48PayPal Discount
$13.92

So it would cost me $18.92 for $20 Lowes GC and a years membership to AL

Also note....

Quote:

Automatic Renewal

Each Angie's List membership comes with the convenience of automatic renewal. Your credit card or other payment method will be automatically billed, until you choose to cancel. You may cancel any time via the Contact Us page or by calling 1-866-623-6088.

dealgeek007 05-21-2013 08:39 AM

Got 1 yr membership for $12.48 +$5 Lowes Gift Card
using LAWN30 and 20% paypal.

Need an AC repair so hopefully this will help me research.

localHero 05-21-2013 08:40 AM

One warning.... your membership will automatically renew if you don't cancel it before the term is up. I set up a calendar reminder to remind me to cancel.

Your Angie's List membership will automatically renew and your credit card or other payment method will be automatically billed, until you choose to cancel. You may cancel any time before your renewal date via the "Contact Us" page or by calling -- The given link is broken --. For more information about our automatic renewal policy or your renewal rate, please call -- The given link is broken -- or visit our FAQ page at www.angieslist.com [angieslist.com].

stingray2772 05-21-2013 08:41 AM

I signed up about a year ago for Angie's List and since I live in a small town, some how it was free. I used a virtual account number just in case, I recommend anybody out there doing this do the same (or use a gift card with a limited balance on it).

Crossing my fingers it'll come.

firemedic1343 05-21-2013 08:41 AM

I won't pay for something that I can get for free.

Trolololo 05-21-2013 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moooshe (Post 59585888)
How do you know those service providers don't make a $20 account and recommend themselves? Or even better, open many trial accounts and do that...

don't know if they have trial account anymore, i do see 110% money back guarantee. if make many $20 account and they have over 30 credit cards themselves why not? :nod: spending $600 to make themselve look good just on angielists while sh!tty on others :D

when you read some member's reviews, u get to see whats the estimate jobs cost is and what they had done. So you get better idea

nrdk00 05-21-2013 08:42 AM

Joined for $3.96 and $5 for the card so $8.96 for the $20 Lowe's card, can't complain.

throwaway9503 05-21-2013 08:42 AM

Angies list sucks

vip00 05-21-2013 08:42 AM

Way way too many reports of Angie's list being pretty much a paid listing service. Not worth the membership fees for sure. The Lowe's GC is just going to be a blowout like last time.

spidrw 05-21-2013 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eagles89 (Post 59584514)
They charge a $10 signup fee...so actually $13.25. The signup fee is how you know this company is shady.

While I don't like the fee, it's not a shady thing. Otherwise when your AC breaks, you'd sign up for $3.25, get a good contractor, and cancel. They do it this way so they can keep members around instead of having you start and stop all the time.

I don't like paying for community-driven sites, but between a lack of headaches with service providers and coupons for Angie's List members, I've saved a lot more than I've paid in fees.

ChrisP8282 05-21-2013 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by canaanx (Post 59585556)
Angie's List has more than paid for itself each year that I've had it.

Quick example: Through Angie's list we found a guy who tiled the kitchen floor for hundreds less than anyone else was willing to do it for but who had excellent references on AL. He did an awesome job. Months later when I screwed up a compression joint while replacing the sink I called him to fix my mistake and he did it and refused to charge me for it since it was an easy fix. THAT's the value of Angie's List for me. And he isn't the only really great contractor I've found through them... Anyway, for what it's worth.

It's not, nor has it ever been, whether there is value in the service. The overarching issue is the shady non-stop calling if you cancel, the fact that they allow their contractors to pay for a higher rating, the fact that you still have to pay a fee to get to it and that it's basically yellowpages.com or yelp.com. I have had the exact same experience as you, but mine was free using Yelp.

dealzexplorer 05-21-2013 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by savemybucks (Post 59584570)
I used code CLEAN30 to give me 40% off membership and then checked out with paypal for additional 20% discount.

so my total was around $3.96 + $5 for card = $8.96 for $20 Lowes gift card. Not a bad deal I guess

How did you get 20% further with PayPal ?

corazones 05-21-2013 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stingray2772 (Post 59586052)
I signed up about a year ago for Angie's List and since I live in a small town, some how it was free. I used a virtual account number just in case, I recommend anybody out there doing this do the same (or use a gift card with a limited balance on it).

Crossing my fingers it'll come.

I second that..citi virtual account number.

Ponder 05-21-2013 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigboy2007 (Post 59584552)
Well, suit yourself. I'll tell you right now that Angie's List membership paid for itself many times over for me.

I guess it depends on your situation. I moved houses 6 months ago so had multiple things I needed to do myself and had to contract out, from a move, to changing the water heater in the attic (most recent). I always research my options well and believe you me - it was totally worth it so far. Especially if you find a slick deal for $14 membership / year. :)

I signed up for the same reason. I moved into a new town and need a way to sort through contractors rapidly. Saved money at the Dentist, Doctor, AC, Roof, water heater/plumbing and I have not had a problem. Really helps you filter out shady practices. It is not perfect, but if they want to give me 15 dollars to spend at lowes I will take it. If you live in a town for awhile and rarely have work done on your house it might not be worth the fee, but if you do you should quickly make it up. It is better then flipping through yellow pages and hoping you randomly pick at least one good vendor when searching for quotes.

jplayland 05-21-2013 08:50 AM

Darn, my Angie's sub must have ended. This would have been the only useful thing I would have gotten from Angie's. From what I saw, Angie's is corrupt and not to be trusted.

jbloggs 05-21-2013 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vip00 (Post 59586098)
Way way too many reports of Angie's list being pretty much a paid listing service. Not worth the membership fees for sure. The Lowe's GC is just going to be a blowout like last time.

What happened last time?

vip00 05-21-2013 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbloggs (Post 59586328)
What happened last time?

http://slickdeals.net/f/5816166-20-Lowe-s-Gift-Card-5-50

Feel free to slog through the 300+ posts. TL;DR version is everything got cancelled, a bunch of people got double charged and pretty much everyone ended up with a ton of spam in their mailboxes.

dealgeek007 05-21-2013 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisP8282 (Post 59586232)
It's not, nor has it ever been, whether there is value in the service. The overarching issue is the shady non-stop calling if you cancel, the fact that they allow their contractors to pay for a higher rating, the fact that you still have to pay a fee to get to it and that it's basically yellowpages.com or yelp.com. I have had the exact same experience as you, but mine was free using Yelp.


For the paranoid person like me, I would check the contractors rating at other places as well such as the BBB, Kudzu, etc.

If they bought their rating at Angies, it will show up as bad somewhere else.

aaba78 05-21-2013 08:54 AM

i cant register

dealgeek007 05-21-2013 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vip00 (Post 59586434)
http://slickdeals.net/f/5816166-20-Lowe-s-Gift-Card-5-50

Feel free to slog through the 300+ posts. TL;DR version is everything got cancelled, a bunch of people got double charged and pretty much everyone ended up with a ton of spam in their mailboxes.

Paid with Paypal and Amex.
If they pull it off this time, I'll cancel my membership by disputing the charge.
Would report them to BBB as well.

Wand 05-21-2013 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donnnster (Post 59584932)
odd i guess everyone has a different activation fee cost? Mine was $10 too.

I think it depends on your location (at leat as per wikipedia)

thegreatfixer 05-21-2013 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gyzo33 (Post 59584420)
Can't believe there are members here that are also members of Angie's list.. SMH...

well said

savemybucks 05-21-2013 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dealzexplorer (Post 59586264)
How did you get 20% further with PayPal ?

You should see that while checking out

Bozo 05-21-2013 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DesertFlower789 (Post 59585794)
I joined Angie's List...and more than one contractor mentioned that he had to pay her site hundreds a month to stay in the top 5 listings. And could pay to get bad reviews taken off.

Thats exactly why I don't like AL or other sites like it. You can't start a site with reviews already done can you? Thats hardly legit. When they can control what you or others say for money, thats not a good. Funny thing, they can let you see what you posted, but block it from everyone else so you think its there for others to see. Yelp is another site that will extort small businesses for money or allow bad reviews, even make them up to ding companies until they cave and pay money. That is why I would never subscribe my business to one of these sites.
FWIW, a friends refferal is much more valuable than a paid site. However, if you have no friends, then I guess you can pay for AL and hope for the best.

Eagles89 05-21-2013 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dealgeek007 (Post 59586482)
Paid with Paypal and Amex.
If they pull it off this time, I'll cancel my membership by disputing the charge.
Would report them to BBB as well.

You can't dispute a membership charge because they wouldn't let you buy a giftcard....

Ponder 05-21-2013 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisP8282 (Post 59586232)
It's not, nor has it ever been, whether there is value in the service. The overarching issue is the shady non-stop calling if you cancel, the fact that they allow their contractors to pay for a higher rating, the fact that you still have to pay a fee to get to it and that it's basically yellowpages.com or yelp.com. I have had the exact same experience as you, but mine was free using Yelp.

Yelp in my area is not active enough to get a good opinion. So far I have had good luck with Angie's list. To me when you are spending tens of thousands of dollars on your home it is worth it for a second opinion. I tried yelp first and simply if not enough users in your area write reviews. to each their own. I like the doctors it helped me find. I was new in town and tried yelp and found it lacking. The doctors I found on yelp I actually disliked. Once again when you only have a few reviews it is easy to fool the system.

Iggy 05-21-2013 08:58 AM

Angie's List saved me $1,800 when I replaced my roof recently. I looked at SEVERAL roofers in my area, and after consulting AL, I found someone that was honest, keep his promises and did it better and cheaper than anyone else. Saved me a $hit load of time...definitely worth the memerbership, which BTW....I was able to get at a rediculious rate!

On a side note, my renewal came up recently and of course my discount was removed. I called and wanted to cancel, and they not only gave me my deal back, they added some additional discounts as well!

Definitely paid for itself!!!

OP, rep point coming your way!!

sandmans42 05-21-2013 09:02 AM

I was mad when our sub. automatically renewed for $12 in March. Now I guess it's a little better. I bought one.. and set a reminder to cancel as suggested in this thread:D

Bozo 05-21-2013 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dealgeek007 (Post 59586450)
For the paranoid person like me, I would check the contractors rating at other places as well such as the BBB, Kudzu, etc.

If they bought their rating at Angies, it will show up as bad somewhere else.

Not entirely accurate. If they are a small enough company, they might not have any ratings. Further, if they are not a member of the BBB, they are not very excited about making a report for a company that is not a member. It takes real effort on the person who wants to make a report with a non-member of the BBB. That's not to say it can't be done though.
I am not familiar w/Kudzu, so I can't comment on them.
Best to use a friends refferal if someone is going to work on your home or office. Even more so if they are going to enter your home!

conquistadorst 05-21-2013 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigboy2007 (Post 59584552)
Well, suit yourself. I'll tell you right now that Angie's List membership paid for itself many times over for me.

I guess it depends on your situation. I moved houses 6 months ago so had multiple things I needed to do myself and had to contract out, from a move, to changing the water heater in the attic (most recent). I always research my options well and believe you me - it was totally worth it so far. Especially if you find a slick deal for $14 membership / year. :)

Sure, it's not absolutely necessary. But yeah I think it's been decent so far too. It's just yet another place to find/post reviews. But imho I think it's def earned its money back. I renew my membership whenever they give me a 50% off the price because I don't think I'd ever enroll at full retail price.

I still wish my area had more reviews though, not every business gets listed since it's all community driven. When I do use contractors, I always let them know I'm an Angie's List user by telling them I found them there... just a tiny bit more extra incentive for ensuring quality. I've even had contractors send me a GC for posting reviews afterwards.

sklar 05-21-2013 09:10 AM

Here is the problem with angies list, and the solution.

Contractor does good work, gets listed with good reviews on AL, has to hire a bunch of numbnuts to help him with all the extra work. Reviews from bad jobs done by said numbnuts don't seem to make it. Hence, you'd have been just as well off doing contractor roulette on your own for free.

Solution: look up your local town/city discussion group. Everyplace I've ever lived has one. Every single one had a bazillion questions about which contractor was any good to do a particular job. Mine talks constantly about the same half dozen general contractor/handyman types and plenty of specialists, with lots of first person concurrence. Also free.

gmanvbva 05-21-2013 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisP8282 (Post 59586232)
It's not, nor has it ever been, whether there is value in the service. The overarching issue is the shady non-stop calling if you cancel, the fact that they allow their contractors to pay for a higher rating, the fact that you still have to pay a fee to get to it and that it's basically yellowpages.com or yelp.com. I have had the exact same experience as you, but mine was free using Yelp.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dealgeek007 (Post 59586450)
For the paranoid person like me, I would check the contractors rating at other places as well such as the BBB, Kudzu, etc.

If they bought their rating at Angies, it will show up as bad somewhere else.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ponder (Post 59586566)
Yelp in my area is not active enough to get a good opinion. So far I have had good luck with Angie's list. To me when you are spending tens of thousands of dollars on your home it is worth it for a second opinion. I tried yelp first and simply if not enough users in your area write reviews. to each their own. I like the doctors it helped me find. I was new in town and tried yelp and found it lacking. The doctors I found on yelp I actually disliked. Once again when you only have a few reviews it is easy to fool the system.

It cost ~$5 (for the year) in my area. Yelp, google, etc. are not very well supported in my area for contracting services.
It was a very small piece of the puzzle when I was selecting a HVAC company to install a heat pump. I brought in 6 different companies (2 I was familiar with, 2 from referrals and 2 from Angie's List).

I used the reviews more as informational in the process of creating interview questions/items to be addressed during the quote for services phase.

Well worth $5 for me.

conquistadorst 05-21-2013 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vip00 (Post 59586434)
http://slickdeals.net/f/5816166-20-Lowe-s-Gift-Card-5-50

Feel free to slog through the 300+ posts. TL;DR version is everything got cancelled, a bunch of people got double charged and pretty much everyone ended up with a ton of spam in their mailboxes.

He's right though I did receive and use my Lowes GC through them last year... and I use my junk mailbox for most internet crap like this exactly for that reason!

Bozo 05-21-2013 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iggy (Post 59586584)
Angie's List saved me $1,800 when I replaced my roof recently. I looked at SEVERAL roofers in my area, and after consulting AL, I found someone that was honest, keep his promises and did it better and cheaper than anyone else. Saved me a $hit load of time...definitely worth the memerbership, which BTW....I was able to get at a rediculious rate!

On a side note, my renewal came up recently and of course my discount was removed. I called and wanted to cancel, and they not only gave me my deal back, they added some additional discounts as well!

Definitely paid for itself!!!

OP, rep point coming your way!!

So, how many companies did you interview? How many of them were from AL? If all were from AL, then I don't see how AL saved you any $. Any time you are going to make repairs, you should have at least 3 estimates. I recently helped my brother pick out a roofing contractor in my area. One of the companies would have charged us over $8000 more than the others. I did not need AL to determine they would not be a good option. The one we picked was a refferal from someone we knew and it worked out fantastic, and cheaper than the other two. My brother was very happy.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ponder (Post 59586566)
Yelp in my area is not active enough to get a good opinion. So far I have had good luck with Angie's list. To me when you are spending tens of thousands of dollars on your home it is worth it for a second opinion. I tried yelp first and simply if not enough users in your area write reviews. to each their own. I like the doctors it helped me find. I was new in town and tried yelp and found it lacking. The doctors I found on yelp I actually disliked. Once again when you only have a few reviews it is easy to fool the system.

Do a google search on yelp and you will find small business owners who have been reamed by yelp for extortion of $$$. Users also complain possitive posts to businesses suddenly dissapear. These are the folks who write the posts go back and find them gone.
I too tried to use Yelp once, but decided to do a little digging, and found out they target companies and shake them down for $$$ to keep a good rating. Many folks believe many of the posts are fake for both poss and neg of many of the businesses listed. So, be very careful of who you trust.
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edcantu9 05-21-2013 09:16 AM

Since I live in a city where there are not many reviews, the membership is still free

gmanvbva 05-21-2013 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sklar (Post 59586922)
Here is the problem with angies list, and the solution.

Contractor does good work, gets listed with good reviews on AL, has to hire a bunch of numbnuts to help him with all the extra work. Reviews from bad jobs done by said numbnuts don't seem to make it. Hence, you'd have been just as well off doing contractor roulette on your own for free.

Solution: look up your local town/city discussion group. Everyplace I've ever lived has one. Every single one had a bazillion questions about which contractor was any good to do a particular job. Mine talks constantly about the same half dozen general contractor/handyman types and plenty of specialists, with lots of first person concurrence. Also free.

Same thing could happen from your community discussion boards/areas...

That fault does not fall with AL. That lies with the business owner/manager that chose to hire "numbnuts".

EvaUnitAammar 05-21-2013 09:17 AM

lol @ Angies list.

It blows my mind that the company is still around. Jump off a bridge Angie.

Ponder 05-21-2013 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bozo (Post 59586738)
Not entirely accurate. If they are a small enough company, they might not have any ratings. Further, if they are not a member of the BBB, they are not very excited about making a report for a company that is not a member. It takes real effort on the person who wants to make a report with a non-member of the BBB. That's not to say it can't be done though.
I am not familiar w/Kudzu, so I can't comment on them.
Best to use a friends refferal if someone is going to work on your home or office. Even more so if they are going to enter your home!

The end result is every listing service has a way to fool the consumer and rig the results, because the people running them way to make as much money as possible. They all will take money to help with ratings. They all push for reviews. I don't love any of them, but one needs a way to sort through the endless see of vendors quickly.

iancole 05-21-2013 09:19 AM

Sweet, free money, Thanks OP

Bozo 05-21-2013 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by conquistadorst (Post 59586916)
When I do use contractors, I always let them know I'm an Angie's List user by telling them I found them there... just a tiny bit more extra incentive for ensuring quality. I've even had contractors send me a GC for posting reviews afterwards.

That seems wrong for a company to send you GC's for posting possitive feedback. It's like they paid for your review.

gmanvbva 05-21-2013 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bozo (Post 59587056)
So, how many companies did you interview? How many of them were from AL? If all were from AL, then I don't see how AL saved you any $. Any time you are going to make repairs, you should have at least 3 estimates. I recently helped my brother pick out a roofing contractor in my area. One of the companies would have charged us over $8000 more than the others. I did not need AL to determine they would not be a good option. The one we picked was a refferal from someone we knew and it worked out fantastic, and cheaper than the other two. My brother was very happy.



Do a google search on yelp and you will find small business owners who have been reamed by yelp for extortion of $$$. Users also complain possitive posts to businesses suddenly dissapear. These are the folks who write the posts go back and find them gone.
I too tried to use Yelp once, but decided to do a little digging, and found out they target companies and shake them down for $$$ to keep a good rating. Many folks believe many of the posts are fake for both poss and neg of many of the businesses listed. So, be very careful of who you trust.
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That reminds me. Everyone should definitely get at least 3 quotes for major work/renovations. I'd say 5... really.

I received 6 quotes for my HVAC work and it was eye opening how much variance there was in pricing (for the exact same system). Even with a mini ductless system (which is almost like installing a appliance and there is very little variance in the installation) there was as much as a 50%-60% variance in pricing. One wanted to charge ~5k while another wanted ~8k. Then another jumped the price ~$1800 for adding a ~$100 option (while others only bumped it $100-$200).

Bozo 05-21-2013 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ponder (Post 59587162)
The end result is every listing service has a way to fool the consumer and rig the results, because the people running them way to make as much money as possible. They all will take money to help with ratings. They all push for reviews. I don't love any of them, but one needs a way to sort through the endless see of vendors quickly.

I understand the need to sort through things quickly. However, if your list of vendors is all guys who paid for good reviews, then how is that list, quick or not, helpful or legit in any way? Why use it at all if you know it is not trustworthy? Can't you just ask someone you know who they used? You should still get at least 3 estimates before making a decision.

Ponder 05-21-2013 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bozo (Post 59587056)
So, how many companies did you interview? How many of them were from AL? If all were from AL, then I don't see how AL saved you any $. Any time you are going to make repairs, you should have at least 3 estimates. I recently helped my brother pick out a roofing contractor in my area. One of the companies would have charged us over $8000 more than the others. I did not need AL to determine they would not be a good option. The one we picked was a referral from someone we knew and it worked out fantastic, and cheaper than the other two. My brother was very happy.

Yes but you live in the town and know a vast area of people enough to get a recommendation. That is normally the best way, but that is not always an option. When I get a quote I normally pick five companies to get quotes from...Those which have tons of work will normally give you a high price those with less lower price. You tend to get a better deal if they have done work for someone you know as well. The question is how do you come up with the five names. First option is normally someone who has done good work for others you know. Assuming that pool is not deep enough how do you get the other 3-4 quotes you need? Yelp hides and unhides reviews however they want. If you only make one review for example they will likely hide your review. So to have any effect you have to make frequent reviews which once again is the consumer working for them for free.

Angie's list is the same they are nice to reviewers who write reviews. One way or the other they get to make money off it. The problem is Ad revenue is not enough to covert expenses of such a site and make them worthwhile so they have experts who figure out every sneaky way to make money. In BBB is the same, with a slightly more old fashion model and so is the phone book. In the end one has to get a list somehow...

I find angie's list helps me more then it hurts. Someone else might find something totally different. In the end every site is doomed to fail no mater what they do. If you run an open site one vendor will try and ruin another. If you try to monetize it you end up with the current problems. In the end not much one can do.

TallyGal 05-21-2013 09:32 AM

I love the noobs that post info from blogs like they are accurate and impartial news sources.
:lmao:

rgg344 05-21-2013 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edcantu9 (Post 59587090)
Since I live in a city where there are not many reviews, the membership is still free

whats your zip code

aaba78 05-21-2013 09:34 AM

has anyone who is not a member able to get one? is this the reason its not dead yet..the last time it died pretty quickly

dnewto 05-21-2013 09:35 AM

I have found Angies List to be very helpful. Thanks for the deal.

Volleydog 05-21-2013 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aaba78 (Post 59587576)
has anyone who is not a member able to get one? is this the reason its not dead yet..the last time it died pretty quickly

AL member, just got one.

throwaway9503 05-21-2013 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dnewto (Post 59587596)
I have found Angies List to be very helpful. Thanks for the deal.

yah ok angielists employee :lmao:

TBotzon 05-21-2013 09:39 AM

I did it but I am a little paranoid Angies list will use my credit card to auto renew. They did that through PayPal last year without notice...:mad:

Turbonator 05-21-2013 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferdinand33 (Post 59587542)
I love the noobs that post info from blogs like they are accurate and impartial news sources.
:lmao:

yeah keep on drinking the koolaid :D

TallyGal 05-21-2013 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by throwaway9503 (Post 59587618)
yah ok angielists employee :lmao:

I'm not an employee and have also found it extremely helpful. :nod:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turbonator (Post 59587698)
yeah keep on drinking the koolaid :D

That's exactly what you are doing... :lmao:

sumasiangirl 05-21-2013 09:52 AM

I signed up through Angie's List through fandango http://www.trialpay.com/campaign/...id=A7NWeZW so I received a free code for $12 movie ticket, then signed up for the 3rd option 1 year of angie's list: doctors etc, for 4.92 using code lawn30 and paypal 20% off code, total price 4.92-$12 fandango code and now i can purchase the lowe's!

Bozo 05-21-2013 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferdinand33 (Post 59587726)
I'm not an employee and have also found it extremely helpful. :nod:

He's right, he's not an employee, he's Angie's brother! ;)

edcantu9 05-21-2013 10:15 AM

I was able to get 14 of them!! Thank you slickdeals!

dudelage 05-21-2013 10:20 AM

Sold out
 
This deal is sold out

TallyGal 05-21-2013 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Bozo (Post 59588534)
He's right, he's not an employee, he's Angie's brother! ;)

Blech... have you seen that chick? I don't want to be part of that family... I ain't THAT ugly! :bounce:

localHero 05-21-2013 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TBotzon (Post 59587692)
I did it but I am a little paranoid Angies list will use my credit card to auto renew. They did that through PayPal last year without notice...:mad:

It's not exactly without notice.... they tell you up front that they will auto-renew your subscription unless you cancel. Best to use a one-time credit card # as some have suggested or to set a calendar reminder to cancel before the end of your subscription.

Bozo 05-21-2013 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferdinand33 (Post 59588966)
Blech... have you seen that chick? I don't want to be part of that family... I ain't THAT ugly! :bounce:

Ok, ok, then she's your Mom, right?:lol:

DealGypsy 05-21-2013 10:58 AM

Angie sucks, prefer Craigs

Zanthexter 05-21-2013 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gyzo33 (Post 59584420)
Can't believe there are members here that are also members of Angie's list.. SMH...

Well, it's like being a Costco and a Sam's Club member, the memberships save me more money than they cost. A LOT more money.

No, I don't save tons of cash every single day, or even month. But all it takes is one decent sized purchase with a good savings from any of them to more than make up for the cost of the memership fees.

Instead of assuming that anyone on SD that pays for Angie's List, Costco, etc is an idiot, maybe you ought to find out their reasoning?

Oh, and as for AL, while I do find the reviews helpful, there are enough coupons and such available that those alone more than cover the cost of the membership.

Quote:

Originally Posted by savemybucks (Post 59584570)
I used code CLEAN30 to give me 40% off membership and then checked out with paypal for additional 20% discount.

so my total was around $3.96 + $5 for card = $8.96 for $20 Lowes gift card. Not a bad deal I guess

I'm not sure how getting $11.04 handed to you for what, 5 minutes of your time, could in any way be anything other than a great deal?

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Originally Posted by shopperuvdealz (Post 59584602)
It was a $5.00 Account Activation Fee for me. I passed as I would be paying $8.25 plus $5 for the $20 giftcard.$13.25 not worth it for me.

Must be nice to be able to leave $6.75 sitting around. That's an hours take home pay for some folks.

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Originally Posted by gyzo33 (Post 59584608)
http://technorati.com/business/ar...nd-busted/

" if you're a school teacher, two A's and one C nicely come out between a B-A (if graded on the curve). Why mention this? Simple: two of said company's best buddies can pay the small fee, leave their good review under the radar and get reimbursed by said company."

Just wondering, but did you actually read the article? The author doesn't actually report anything. It's just his personal assumptions and rant, no references to any facts or information at all.

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Originally Posted by mrgodai (Post 59585120)
they will call you many many many times to renew after your membership expire.

Then don't give them a valid phone number. And use a prepaid card or disposable credit card number. Standard steps to take anytime you're not 100% comfortable with an online merchant.

Also, are you just assuming, or did you cancel and get harassed? Just curious. Seems like a lot of people are trashing Angie's List, but actually don't have any personal experience with the service.

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Originally Posted by canaanx (Post 59585556)
Angie's List has more than paid for itself each year that I've had it.

Same here, and that's just on the occasional "Deal" they have that I do take advantage of. (Like this one.) The money I've saved based on the referrals is almost a bonus.

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Originally Posted by VadimNYC (Post 59585594)
refuse to pay for craigslist/groupon combo lol.

Why? Craiglist is a total crapshot, and group rarely has anything useful, much less useful when I need it. (You don't choose when to fix a dead central AC system when summer is coming, you FIX it, and just hope you don't get screwed too badly.)

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Originally Posted by Turbonator (Post 59585720)
What kind of company is Angie's list??? Take a look...

http://bucks.blogs.nytimes.com/20...gies-list/

ROFL, did you even read the articles or just throw up the first few search results? The NY one gives them an A rating.

I followed the links for several of the articles folks have put out in the thread. One of my favorites was the one saying "You can just use the BBB". Which has actually been documented to outright sell ratings.

Look, sure, Angie's List does charge a subscription. And it does charge for things you theoretically can get free elsewhere. So what? If paying the (discounted easily enough) fee saves you money, it's worthwhile. If not, not.

Folks should stop getting all tied up in the fact that AL isn't free, and start wondering if the math does, or doesn't, work in their favor for joining.

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Originally Posted by DesertFlower789 (Post 59585794)
I joined Angie's List...and more than one contractor mentioned that he had to pay her site hundreds a month to stay in the top 5 listings. And could pay to get bad reviews taken off.

And that upset you SO MUCH that you kept calling contractors that were in the top 5 listings, and thus were able to keep getting this information from multiple sources?

I've never asked mine, but I also read past the first five, so it doesn't matter much. I also find the coupons and such valuable enough that the reviews don't have to justify the membership.

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Originally Posted by bobo_saan (Post 59585862)
LOL Scamngieslist... not a good deal but nice try.

Just wondering, but how is free money not a good deal?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferdinand33 (Post 59587542)
I love the noobs that post info from blogs like they are accurate and impartial news sources.
:lmao:

Without reading them too. A few of them were either neutral or actually positive. Most of them weren't factual though, just long rants based on the authors personal opinions. No different than a lot of the posts here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TBotzon (Post 59587692)
I did it but I am a little paranoid Angies list will use my credit card to auto renew. They did that through PayPal last year without notice...:mad:

Pay closer attention next time. Or just use a prepaid card or a temporary card.

Or just use a calendar program/web site to remind you to cancel [angieslist.com]ahead of time.

No different than quite a lot of other sites/services/etc.

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Originally Posted by dudelage (Post 59588644)
This deal is sold out

Sad, but true :(



And for the record, if it wasn't for the bonus coupons and deals... I probably wouldn't find the occasional new contractor here and there worth the subscription fee. Once you find a good mechanic/dentist/computer guy/air conditional gal/etc you're likely to just stick with them instead of constantly looking for a better deal. When it comes to contractors, finding one you feel you can trust is worth more than a few bucks off a quote.

As someone that both hires contractors and provides services to others, I'm all too aware of how easy it is to pad the bills. Trust is important, and, honestly, people have to make a living. The $80 an hour rates really are justified when you look at the amount of work and time and such you aren't being directly billed for.

deal_destroyer 05-21-2013 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gyzo33 (Post 59584608)
http://technorati.com/business/ar...nd-busted/

" if you're a school teacher, two A's and one C nicely come out between a B-A (if graded on the curve). Why mention this? Simple: two of said company's best buddies can pay the small fee, leave their good review under the radar and get reimbursed by said company."

Blah, blah, blah. Yeah, any review system can be exploited to a certain extent. If I'm a business on Angies List I could have my friends give a bad review to my competitors and hurt their business. No system is perfect, just take a look at Amazon.

Until someone shows me a link to an investigation of the company proving shady practices then I'll use them to help find competent businesses. Which I have several times.

SMH at people that think they know it all and put other people down in the process.

Turbonator 05-21-2013 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zanthexter (Post 59589744)
ROFL, did you even read the articles or just throw up the first few search results? The NY one gives them an A rating.

Did you even read the tons of comments that people posted? Almost all of them NEGATIVE. Look, no one's saying getting a $20 gc for $5 is a bad deal. The company is doing this for a reason - to drum up business and get more "suckers" signed up.

area201 05-21-2013 11:47 AM

Real SD...?
"We encourage you to try our annual membership option since it is backed by a 110% money-back guarantee. During your first year if you decide the service isn't working out, we can refund your purchase and provide an extra 10% as a thank-you for trying us out"

TallyGal 05-21-2013 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bozo (Post 59589556)
Ok, ok, then she's your Mom, right?:lol:

Can't be her, she's dead... but thanks for reminding me.

conquistadorst 05-21-2013 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bozo (Post 59587246)
That seems wrong for a company to send you GC's for posting possitive feedback. It's like they paid for your review.

Not sure what made you jump to the conclusion it was positive? Not sure I'd consider anything less than an 'A' positive and I left them a 'B'. The work was good but they kept stalling and it wasn't done until 4 months behind schedule.

sklar 05-21-2013 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gmanvbva (Post 59587094)
Same thing could happen from your community discussion boards/areas...

If it did, I'd see a torrent of recent complaints where there had been compliments. In general, a few hundred people looking at a discussion board doesn't generate the kind of business opportunities that being on a large paid subscriber list does.

Quote:

That fault does not fall with AL. That lies with the business owner/manager that chose to hire "numbnuts".
Didn't say it did. Just said it made AL fairly worthless since they filter out complaints, and recent entry to it can cause a huge surge in demand. And good contractors are pretty hard to find, so you get numbnuts doing your job instead of the guy in the review you read.

bobo_saan 05-21-2013 01:39 PM

Note - Angie Hicks probably should have used someone other than Angie's List to find funding while building her company... :lmao: http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2011/...ve-equity/

Angie’s List was co-founded in 1995 by Angie Hicks, the chief marketing officer, and William S. Oesterle, the chief executive. Ms. Hicks owns only 1.8 percent of her namesake company; Mr. Oesterle, 7.5 percent. Almost 63 percent of the company is now held by three venture capital companies and T. Rowe Price. (this was pre-IPO)

LOL great job Angie!

localHero 05-21-2013 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobo_saan (Post 59594120)
Note - Angie Hicks probably should have used someone other than Angie's List to find funding while building her company... :lmao: http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2011/11/15/the-wisest-entrepreneurs-know-how-to-preserve-equity/

Angie’s List was co-founded in 1995 by Angie Hicks, the chief marketing officer, and William S. Oesterle, the chief executive. Ms. Hicks owns only 1.8 percent of her namesake company; Mr. Oesterle, 7.5 percent. Almost 63 percent of the company is now held by three venture capital companies and T. Rowe Price. (this was pre-IPO)

LOL great job Angie!

I'm gonna hazard a guess she's making a lot more $$ than you are....

DesertFlower789 05-21-2013 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zanthexter (Post 59589744)


And that upset you SO MUCH that you kept calling contractors that were in the top 5 listings, and thus were able to keep getting this information from multiple sources?

I've never asked mine, but I also read past the first five, so it doesn't matter much. I also find the coupons and such valuable enough that the reviews don't have to justify the membership.




Actually the first one told me this and I took it with a grain of salt. After the second one did I stopped using AL.

gmanvbva 05-21-2013 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sklar (Post 59593170)
If it did, I'd see a torrent of recent complaints where there had been compliments. In general, a few hundred people looking at a discussion board doesn't generate the kind of business opportunities that being on a large paid subscriber list does.



Didn't say it did. Just said it made AL fairly worthless since they filter out complaints, and recent entry to it can cause a huge surge in demand. And good contractors are pretty hard to find, so you get numbnuts doing your job instead of the guy in the review you read.

So you are saying that AL just magnifies the issue since it can be on a larger scale...
And I find it ironic that people claiming to be "true SD'rs" take issue with this type of practice. .. since SD now has very similar practices...

And the solution is the same. Make intelligent and informed decisions based on information gathered from multiple sources.

Zanthexter 05-22-2013 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DesertFlower789 (Post 59596352)
Actually the first one told me this and I took it with a grain of salt. After the second one did I stopped using AL.

Shrug, the coupons and deals are worth enough for some folks to justify the membership.

Personally, I could care less that a company pays to be in the top five results. When I'm looking at a major purchase (repair/project), I'm going to go WAY past the first 5 results. :)

Ebay, Google, other companies do the same thing. Some make it more obvious (Google) some less (ebay) but it's part of how they make money. Paying to have a D turned into an A, or to have negative reviews removed, that's a bit different. Assuming it's happening, I don't know that it's all that often.

When I gave a negative review Angie's List had the contractor contact me to "resolve the issue" before the review went live. Basically it amounted to, "What do we have to do to get a better rating before your review goes public?"

You'd think if a better grade was as easy to buy as folks are claiming, they'd have had little reason to come back and fix things. (The guy replaced some sheet rock and did a terrible job "re-cottage cheesing" the repaired spot. (lumpy stuff under the paint, a smooth spot after a repair is noticeable)

They also regularly pester you to review companies. Party it's to keep the reviews "fresh" enough so that AL has some value, partly because the reviews of companies NOT in AL are how they get the contact info of new contractors to try and sell "top 5" status too.

As for the companies being able to have shills post reviews and so on... what's new? You see that happening everywhere from Amazon to Yelp. It's a huge problem that no one has a good answer to.

The value with Angie's List, for you and I, is not that the reviews are that much more trustworthy, but that the contractors care enough about them that it gives you some leverage if a problem needs to get fixed. You don't quite get the same willingness to work with you when you're just saying you'll trash them on Facebook.

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Originally Posted by Turbonator (Post 59590640)
Did you even read the tons of comments that people posted? Almost all of them NEGATIVE. Look, no one's saying getting a $20 gc for $5 is a bad deal. The company is doing this for a reason - to drum up business and get more "suckers" signed up.

Well, I agree that they're doing it for a reason. As for the "getting more suckers" part... I don't think anyone mentioned it being advertised to non-members? It could be, I don't know. But unless it was advertised, it kinda, sorta, looks like a legitimate benefit of membership. Ya know, sort of what you'd expect if it wasn't a scam?

As for reading the comments, the majority of the negative comments seem to come from people that haven't actually used the service basically bitching that it isn't free. Same with the blog posts, the folks bitching in this thread, and so on. Oh, and the folks echoing the complainers, "I saw 100 posts by people who've never used the service saying it's a scam, watch out!".

In this thread I've seen a few positive posts from folks that actually use the service, and have gotten basically called fools for having used it, saved money, and had a good experience with it. I've seen a pile of negative posts from folks that haven't used the service but are certain it's just terrible, TERRIBLE, and how DARE they charge?! And there've been a couple (like the person above) used it but were iffy about the validity of the reviews. Not because they had bad experiences with the contractors or felt that they hadn't gotten a good deal, just that they were iffy about the system itself being too easy for the contractors to game.

There seems to be a rather remarkable lack of people sounding off that they hired multiple A rated contractors and got screwed with bad work or rip off rates as a result.

Anyway, it saves me money, and if the guy coming Thursday suddenly "runs into problems" that take the $1,500 repair for my central AC system into the $2k+ category, I guess I'll find out for sure whether the AL reviews matter to him or not.

lotsalotsadeals 05-22-2013 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by conquistadorst (Post 59592492)
Not sure what made you jump to the conclusion it was positive? Not sure I'd consider anything less than an 'A' positive and I left them a 'B'. The work was good but they kept stalling and it wasn't done until 4 months behind schedule.

And there you have it.
A perfect reason NOT to trust the "reviews" on the site;)

VictoriaS 05-22-2013 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by shopperuvdealz (Post 59584458)
Must be a member.
It costs $3.25 to be a member for a month.

Monthly: $3.25 Account
Activation Fee: $5.00
Total: $8.25

if you will google "Angie's list coupon code" before you purchase, odds r good you will find a substantial percentage off...and I happen to be one of those that posts authentic HONEST reviews on Angie's list poor or great..and I happen to be one of those folks that has found fantastic service, as there has to be more than 10 reviews in order for me to consider using that business... and you have to be a member in order to post a review on Angie's list

lotsalotsadeals 05-22-2013 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by gmanvbva (Post 59587308)
That reminds me. Everyone should definitely get at least 3 quotes for major work/renovations. I'd say 5... really.

I received 6 quotes for my HVAC work and it was eye opening how much variance there was in pricing (for the exact same system). Even with a mini ductless system (which is almost like installing a appliance and there is very little variance in the installation) there was as much as a 50%-60% variance in pricing. One wanted to charge ~5k while another wanted ~8k. Then another jumped the price ~$1800 for adding a ~$100 option (while others only bumped it $100-$200).

What you should have done was Buy the unit yourself.
Get a quote for Install Only.

I was able to get a significantly more efficient unit for less than half the price Installed. Compared with the quotes I had received for "full service" less efficient unit.

Just checked my receipts total of $2,550 for 4 ton 15 SEER with variable speed.
Best price at the time was $4,900 for a 13 SEER Had quotes all the way up to $9800 for 15 seer
(This was prior to the 13 seer mandate).

Take a look at some pricing and you will KNOW you still got hosed :lmao:

I could have saved a few more $$ but ordered Locally being that we are in FL and it's warm in May http://www.budgetheating.com/

That was just over 7 years ago.
We are at the point that if we have a 100% Failure on the unit we can just buy a complete New more efficient unit and still come out way ahead :lmao:

conquistadorst 05-22-2013 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by lotsalotsadeals (Post 59606246)
And there you have it.
A perfect reason NOT to trust the "reviews" on the site;)

Personally I read most reviews in their entirety to get the full story and make my own judgement. Really, is there any review site you look at each review as bible? Isn't it common that you read a 1-star review and say, "oh, that would have been 3 stars for me" or likewise read a 4-star review and say, "oh, that would have been 1 star for me". Oh read another review and say, "ok, this one doesn't even sound real it's probably the manufacturer". Since when aren't reviews subjective? I don't think anyone on this thread said, "you should trust all reviews on Angie's List 100%". You can't say that about any review site, big or small. If you do you should wake up and smell the coffee, half the internet is bogus. You could very well read my review or anyone else's and smell BS, that's your call and that's how review sites work.

btw If you're saying he deserved less than a B then you're just being nit picky, that wasn't even my point. But I may as well mention the contractors niece died in a murder-suicide. He's known in the area, it was all over the news. He threw in extra work, dropped the price a bit in attempt to make up for all the problems so I obviously I cut him a bit of slack but 4 months was still too long. Honestly I felt a little guilty giving him a B because he tried to make up for it but I kept going back to the fact that it still took 4 months. So again, full story, make your own decision. For me personally on Angie's List, I'd pass over anything below an A. Same with any other contractor review sites. But to each their own...

gmanvbva 05-22-2013 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by lotsalotsadeals (Post 59606590)
What you should have done was Buy the unit yourself.
Get a quote for Install Only.

I was able to get a significantly more efficient unit for less than half the price Installed. Compared with the quotes I had received for "full service" less efficient unit.

Just checked my receipts total of $2,550 for 4 ton 15 SEER with variable speed.
Best price at the time was $4,900 for a 13 SEER Had quotes all the way up to $9800 for 15 seer
(This was prior to the 13 seer mandate).

Take a look at some pricing and you will KNOW you still got hosed :lmao:

I could have saved a few more $$ but ordered Locally being that we are in FL and it's warm in May http://www.budgetheating.com/

That was just over 7 years ago.
We are at the point that if we have a 100% Failure on the unit we can just buy a complete New more efficient unit and still come out way ahead :lmao:

I know what the pricing (dealer cost) is on the units. I have a friend that is in the HVAC business (but commercial side). I am very comfortable with the price I am paying for installation (overall price - part cost).

Also, you can't buy most HVAC units themselves (especially in my area). Distributors only sell to dealers/installers. Most reputable installers/companies only sell units if they are contracted to install.

I understand Florida is a bit different with their HVAC "market" due to the increased demand and number of "private installers" in the business.

Also, there is a very large price differential when comparing apples to oranges (dissimilar systems; i.e. brand, seer, variable speed, humidity control, etc.).

What I found best is to get multiple opinions, do your homework, ask each dealer questions about the other options. Then decide on 2-3 "systems" and ask for identical quotes for identical systems. This will help you identify what the difference in their pricing really is.

lotsalotsadeals 05-22-2013 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by gmanvbva (Post 59615254)
I know what the pricing (dealer cost) is on the units. I have a friend that is in the HVAC business (but commercial side). I am very comfortable with the price I am paying for installation (overall price - part cost).

Also, you can't buy most HVAC units themselves (especially in my area). Distributors only sell to dealers/installers. Most reputable installers/companies only sell units if they are contracted to install.

I understand Florida is a bit different with their HVAC "market" due to the increased demand and number of "private installers" in the business.

Also, there is a very large price differential when comparing apples to oranges (dissimilar systems; i.e. brand, seer, variable speed, humidity control, etc.).

What I found best is to get multiple opinions, do your homework, ask each dealer questions about the other options. Then decide on 2-3 "systems" and ask for identical quotes for identical systems. This will help you identify what the difference in their pricing really is.

Oy Vey :facepalm2:

Some people just don't get it.
It is the Same regardless of where you are.

Ask your "friend" for a 'similar' spec unit from the link I supplied compare prices.

A close relative of mine manages an AC Heating Company (out of state) they couldn't even come close in pricing.

So tell us what you got and what you are paying:popcorn:

ebizash 06-06-2013 07:48 AM

Have you guys started getting your Lowe's GCs? I haven't received mine yet.

sandmans42 06-07-2013 04:43 AM

I haven't either... I was billed $5 and still haven't received it. just did a search to see if others had gotten it yet

localHero 06-07-2013 05:00 AM

Same here but it probably just takes longer than this.
Angie's list is a test for me. So far I haven't found much to use it for but I was annoyed to find that when I tried to look up the realtor my Mom chose in her home town, I was asked to pay another fee for access outside my region. I hadn't realized my membership only covered a small area.
Makes it much less valuable imo.

edcantu9 06-08-2013 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by sandmans42 (Post 59935978)
I haven't either... I was billed $5 and still haven't received it. just did a search to see if others had gotten it yet

in your research did you find out if anybody has got their gc yet?

TBotzon 06-08-2013 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by edcantu9 (Post 59963248)
in your research did you find out if anybody has got their gc yet?

For the record I have not gotten mine :(

sandmans42 06-09-2013 04:49 AM

maybe this week? nothing yet:confused:

edcantu9 06-10-2013 11:16 AM

No gift card today either.

averagepunter 06-14-2013 11:26 AM

Anybody received theirs yet?

Ponder 06-14-2013 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by averagepunter (Post 60103446)
Anybody received theirs yet?

I don't think so...

savemybucks 06-14-2013 02:48 PM

They said by the end of next week wren I emailed them. Bunch of crooks!

localHero 06-14-2013 03:27 PM

3 days ago I received and email which read:

Hello,
You recently purchased a Lowe’s gift card through an Angie’s List Big Deal. We do not currently have your correct street address so unable to send. Please reply to this email with the street address you would like the card mailed to and we will get one in the mail as soon as possible.

Thank you,
Your Friend’s at Angie’s List

I checked and sure enough, my full address wasn't in my profile on AL. I updated my profile and replied to the email that my address was now in my profile but that I was not in the habit of sending out my street address to unknown email sources. I've not yet gotten a reply but I think it was legit and not some sort of Phishing scam. The senders address was an "@angieslist.com" address...

solemn69 06-15-2013 11:31 AM

I received mine today.

edcantu9 06-17-2013 05:58 PM

received 2 out of 13 today.

ebizash 06-18-2013 04:20 PM

Received mine today!

Jabbit 06-20-2013 07:58 AM

Got mine a couple days ago.

localHero 06-20-2013 11:21 AM

Mine came today

dvd8man 07-08-2013 07:19 PM

Still waiting.


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