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DJ3xclusive 06-28-2013 09:03 AM

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4L Lens $700 + Free shipping
 
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Steveb3163 06-28-2013 09:03 AM

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4L Lens $700 + Free shipping
 
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getitdigital via EBay has Canon EF 24-105mm f/4L Lens for $699.99 + free shipping. Thanks DJ3xclusive

Price Research: Our research indicates that this Canon EF 24-105mm f/4L Lens is $132 lower (16% savings) than the next best available price from a reputable merchant, with prices ranging from $832. - Steveb3163

mf4l 06-28-2013 09:07 AM

Damn, kind of want the 24-70 debating on this.

felunk 06-28-2013 09:16 AM

Great lens...being a kit lens is really driving the price down..wish they'd kit the 70-200 markii.

killershroom 06-28-2013 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by mf4l (Post 60391458)
Damn, kind of want the 24-70 debating on this.

The 24-70 2.8 is MUCH better in terms of image quality.

Stimps 06-28-2013 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by killershroom (Post 60391738)
The 24-70 2.8 is MUCH better in terms of image quality.

It is also twice a much!

soyeah 06-28-2013 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Stimps (Post 60391866)
It is also twice a much!


more like 3x

iancole 06-28-2013 09:38 AM

price is getting crushed on these, I was selling them for 800 or more all day last month

AkumaX 06-28-2013 09:38 AM

Is getitdigital on the canon USA authorized list?

soyeah 06-28-2013 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by AkumaX (Post 60392162)
Is getitdigital on the canon USA authorized list?


description says its usa cannon warranty. but it also says its a white box which means it was part of a kit.

so idk how that would work.

furiousbagles 06-28-2013 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by AkumaX (Post 60392162)
Is getitdigital on the canon USA authorized list?

http://www.usa.canon.com/app/pdf/...ealers.pdf

Don't see it on the list as of 6/3/2013

killershroom 06-28-2013 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by furiousbagles (Post 60393248)
http://www.usa.canon.com/app/pdf/...ealers.pdf

Don't see it on the list as of 6/3/2013

It doesn't matter. They will honor the warranty.

DocMo 06-28-2013 11:22 AM

I've used this lens and have really, really liked it. That said, if the 24-70 II (2.8) or any of the 70-200 (2.8/4.0/IS/Non-IS) are in your future, you may not really need this lens. It's a great kit lens for all purpose use, but the lenses I listed above will keep the 24-105 on your shelf unless you use it specifically for travel.

Of course, if you have no plans for any of those other lenses, and you're short on investment into this hobby (won't say business, b/c if you're in the business, you'll likely use the more specified focal lengths) then this 24-105 is a great start.

rdubbs 06-28-2013 11:49 AM

Reasons to buy the 24-70:
- Printing at more than 8x10, where the sharpness might matter
- Need f/2.8 for even more DoF than f/4.0
- Need f/2.8 for fast-moving subjects
- Need f/2.8 for manual focusing using matte precision focusing screen, in dark areas
- Don't need IS (which opens up slower shutter speeds)
- Don't need 24-105

I own the 24-105mm and actually the matte focusing screen is a little annoying. It's designed for cameras f/2.8 or brighter, and so with this 24-105 f/4 the viewfinder is noticeably darker. Indoors, I more or less have to rely on autofocus.

But then if I'm indoors, it's arguably nicer to use my 50mm prime anyways if I'm aiming to shoot with very shallow DoF (which is when the focusing screen really helps).

Still haven't figured out if I'll be totally happy with the 24-105mm in the long run. But I'm sure as heck not ponying up another $1400 for the 24-70!

blunky 06-28-2013 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by rdubbs (Post 60395480)
Reasons to buy the 24-70:
- Printing at more than 8x10, where the sharpness might matter
- Need f/2.8 for even more DoF than f/4.0
- Need f/2.8 for fast-moving subjects
- Need f/2.8 for manual focusing using matte precision focusing screen, in dark areas
- Don't need IS (which opens up slower shutter speeds)
- Don't need 24-105

I own the 24-105mm and actually the matte focusing screen is a little annoying. It's designed for cameras f/2.8 or brighter, and so with this 24-105 f/4 the viewfinder is noticeably darker. Indoors, I more or less have to rely on autofocus.

But then if I'm indoors, it's arguably nicer to use my 50mm prime anyways if I'm aiming to shoot with very shallow DoF (which is when the focusing screen really helps).

Still haven't figured out if I'll be totally happy with the 24-105mm in the long run. But I'm sure as heck not ponying up another $1400 for the 24-70!

Well unless you're against 3rd party lenses, the Tamron 24-70 2.8 is a pretty nice lens for about 1k.

rdubbs 06-28-2013 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by blunky (Post 60395770)
Well unless you're against 3rd party lenses, the Tamron 24-70 2.8 is a pretty nice lens for about 1k.

Nice! This review [dpreview.com] indicates that it has vignetting/barrel distortion issues, though.

IIRC with a Canon/Canon combo the camera autocorrects for this using a saved profile for the lens, which I assume isn't the case with a 3rd party lens.

That Tamron lens looks wicked for someone who regularly goes in and post-processes images - I'm too lazy/busy, though.

fyu 06-28-2013 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by rdubbs (Post 60396066)
Nice! This review [dpreview.com] indicates that it has vignetting/barrel distortion issues, though.

IIRC with a Canon/Canon combo the camera autocorrects for this using a saved profile for the lens, which I assume isn't the case with a 3rd party lens.

That Tamron lens looks wicked for someone who regularly goes in and post-processes images - I'm too lazy/busy, though.

the camera only corrects it for jpg. and in raw you have to use canon's dpp for auto correction.

so for people working in raw, it's not much of an issue.

kabob17 06-28-2013 12:13 PM

Does this include the lens hood?

blunky 06-28-2013 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rdubbs (Post 60396066)
Nice! This review [dpreview.com] indicates that it has vignetting/barrel distortion issues, though.

IIRC with a Canon/Canon combo the camera autocorrects for this using a saved profile for the lens, which I assume isn't the case with a 3rd party lens.

That Tamron lens looks wicked for someone who regularly goes in and post-processes images - I'm too lazy/busy, though.

Yes, and it does have the dreaded onion bokeh balls. But if you can live with those minor issues the lens is a great performer for the price compared to the Canon. And I agree with you that if you aren't going to go and say pp these in lightroom then ya it's probably not the lens for you. Lightroom does have profiles so it's just a one click deal to fix.

gogadgetgirl 06-28-2013 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by kabob17 (Post 60396168)
Does this include the lens hood?

Yes, all Canon L lenses include the hood and pouch.

zdizek 06-28-2013 12:30 PM

Is this lens worth the money on a crop sensor? Going to Italy with a 60D and want a quality all around lens.

bogatas 06-28-2013 12:46 PM

:( just bought a kit one (no warranty card) off CL for $720, thinking I got a bargain... At least it came with a Calumet MC UV filter...

bogatas 06-28-2013 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by zdizek (Post 60396664)
Is this lens worth the money on a crop sensor? Going to Italy with a 60D and want a quality all around lens.


The size of the sensor wouldn't matter for EF lenses (which fit EF-S cameras, too). The crop sensor will get the creme-de-la-creme of the lens' glass goodness, since it'll only register the un-CAed/vignetted center frame.

laselvasurf 06-28-2013 12:52 PM

Great lens, had one for years since I got my first 5D MK1 kit. Just bought another one from this deal, lowest price I've seen in a long time considering it it includes the warranty. Thanks OP!

AkumaX 06-28-2013 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by zdizek (Post 60396664)
Is this lens worth the money on a crop sensor? Going to Italy with a 60D and want a quality all around lens.

The only issue you'd have is if you needed to take wide shots. I'm sure you've had some kind of kit lens (whether its 18-55 or 18-135). Now imagine that you don't have that extra wide range from 18-24. Will you miss it?

Qson 06-28-2013 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by zdizek (Post 60396664)
Is this lens worth the money on a crop sensor? Going to Italy with a 60D and want a quality all around lens.

It'll work just fine. I used a 24-70 mk 1 on my T2i before upgrading to my 6D.

Since it's on a APS-C, your focal length will be multiplied by 1.6; 38mm - 168mm. Just keep in mind that your focal length will be longer and you won't get as wide of an angle on the wide end.

sarang23 06-28-2013 01:22 PM

Canon EF 24-105 F4L IS USM lens for 699$
 
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mf4l 06-28-2013 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zdizek (Post 60396664)
Is this lens worth the money on a crop sensor? Going to Italy with a 60D and want a quality all around lens.

In my opinion, no, just not worth it to get a 40-130mm lens pretty much. Telephoto isnt going ot benefit you to much in this situation, point of a walk around lens is to go from wide to tele, in this case your wont be able.= too.

biggiep 06-28-2013 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rdubbs (Post 60396066)
Nice! This review [dpreview.com] indicates that it has vignetting/barrel distortion issues, though.

IIRC with a Canon/Canon combo the camera autocorrects for this using a saved profile for the lens, which I assume isn't the case with a 3rd party lens.

That Tamron lens looks wicked for someone who regularly goes in and post-processes images - I'm too lazy/busy, though.


Well, think of it this way: You'll be doing even more complicated post-processing on the 24-70mm f2.8 Canon if you raised your ISO or lowered your shutter speed too much to compensate for the lack of IS on the lens.

radarco 06-28-2013 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by AkumaX (Post 60392162)
Is getitdigital on the canon USA authorized list?

NO...getitdigital is NOT an authorized Canon USA dealer...I know...ordered a camera from them (eBay) and although they stated it came with a USA warranty NO warranty card was included with the camera...contacted getitdigital and they admitted to me they are not an authorized Canon USA dealer...filed claim with eBay for a refund and bought a camera from pmidigital (on eBay) which IS an authorized dealer...this one came with warranty cards for both lens and camera.

biggiep 06-28-2013 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zdizek (Post 60396664)
Is this lens worth the money on a crop sensor? Going to Italy with a 60D and want a quality all around lens.

18-135mm STM (NOT the original 18-135mm) would be an excellent option, that lens is my walkaround right now and it is very affordable. Don't be obsessed over having a red ring on your lens until you get a full frame camera - the standard zoom L lenses don't have zoom ranges appropriate for crop sensor bodies.

I've compared it to Sigma's 17-50mm f2.8 and it actually beats it in sharpness up to f6.3. After 6.3 the Sigma pulls ahead, but below its corner sharpness is pretty lackluster. The 18-135mm STM is an incredible lens considering the range. The only think that sucks is that the aperture isn't constant, but its cost reflects that.

killershroom 06-28-2013 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by radarco (Post 60399666)
NO...getitdigital is NOT an authorized Canon USA dealer...I know...ordered a camera from them (eBay) and although they stated it came with a USA warranty NO warranty card was included with the camera...contacted getitdigital and they admitted to me they are not an authorized Canon USA dealer...filed claim with eBay for a refund and bought a camera from pmidigital (on eBay) which IS an authorized dealer...this one came with warranty cards for both lens and camera.

My camera from them came with a warranty card.

radarco 06-28-2013 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by killershroom (Post 60399772)
My camera from them came with a warranty card.

You got lucky then...do a google search on getitdigital and you'll see many customers who DON'T receive a warranty card...and I called Canon USA and they definitely are NOT an authorized dealer. Of course there's no law against buying "grey" (ie. not from an authorized dealer) photo merchandise...but for me I want the iron clad guarantee that Canon USA will honor its warranty by having both proof of purchase from an AUTHORIZED DEALER and the warranty cards...to each his own!

bogatas 06-28-2013 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qson (Post 60398030)
It'll work just fine. I used a 24-70 mk 1 on my T2i before upgrading to my 6D.

Since it's on a APS-C, your focal length will be multiplied by 1.6; 38mm - 168mm. Just keep in mind that your focal length will be longer and you won't get as wide of an angle on the wide end.

Making that comparison makes it more confusing than it needs to be. 24-105 can be compared directly to the 18-55mm, without converting.

killershroom 06-28-2013 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by radarco (Post 60399908)
You got lucky then...do a google search on getitdigital and you'll see many customers who DON'T receive a warranty card...and I called Canon USA and they definitely are NOT an authorized dealer. Of course there's no law against buying "grey" (ie. not from an authorized dealer) photo merchandise...but for me I want the iron clad guarantee that Canon USA will honor its warranty by having both proof of purchase from an AUTHORIZED DEALER and the warranty cards...to each his own!

That is not grey market. Your warranty will be honored.

radarco 06-28-2013 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by killershroom (Post 60400714)
That is not grey market. Your warranty will be honored.

I didn't state Canon would not honor the warranty... I stated the reality and truth that getitdigital is NOT an authorized Canon USA dealer and therefore, by definition, sells grey photography merchandise... look up the definition of grey photography equipment... it' not difficult.

hale_image 06-28-2013 04:02 PM

good deal if you could afford it.

killershroom 06-28-2013 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by radarco (Post 60401496)
I didn't state Canon would not honor the warranty... I stated the reality and truth that getitdigital is NOT an authorized Canon USA dealer and therefore, by definition, sells grey photography merchandise... look up the definition of grey photography equipment... it' not difficult.

You don't seem to understand what grey market means. Do a simple Google search. It has nothing to do with being an authorized dealer. Bh photography is an authorized Canon dealer and sells certain grey market items. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/find/...USGrey.jsp

radarco 06-28-2013 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by killershroom (Post 60401654)
You don't seem to understand what grey market means. Do a simple Google search. It has nothing to do with being an authorized dealer. Bh photography is an authorized Canon dealer and sells certain grey market items. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/find/...USGrey.jsp

I certainly do... you need to look up the definition of grey market... and yes both B&H and Adorama sell grey market merchandise, clearly labeled as such, usually along side the non grey market gear which retails at a higher price... authorized dealers can sell BOTH (clearly labeled of course) while non authorized dealers sell only grey market... again not difficult to decider the difference between the two.

SoCalTiger68 06-28-2013 04:25 PM

This is a good price. I can't remember if they are an authorized dealer though. You may want to update the OP/Wiki with whether it is or not for those that care.

radarco 06-28-2013 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by radarco (Post 60401816)
I certainly do... you need to look up the definition of grey market... and yes both B&H and Adorama sell grey market merchandise, clearly labeled as such, usually along side the non grey market gear which retails at a higher price... authorized dealers can sell BOTH (clearly labeled of course) while non authorized dealers sell only grey market... again not difficult to decider the difference between the two.

And, according to the weblink you reference, grey market merchandise must be returned to B&H for their (in house) warranty service and NOT sent to a Canon USA warranty service center... that's the key difference between buying a grey camera or lens from B&H OR purchasing the "white" USA model

dhishi 06-28-2013 04:32 PM

Note this lens has quality issues in auto focusing . It is best to get it Canon warranty. Mine in the kit had to be sent in as I could not do any micro adjustment.

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killershroom 06-28-2013 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by radarco (Post 60401816)
I certainly do... you need to look up the definition of grey market... and yes both B&H and Adorama sell grey market merchandise, clearly labeled as such, usually along side the non grey market gear which retails at a higher price... authorized dealers can sell BOTH (clearly labeled of course) while non authorized dealers sell only grey market... again not difficult to decider the difference between the two.

You're absolutely wrong. My Canon 6D is covered by a U.S. warranty. U.S. warranty = NOT grey market. Getitdigital is not selling grey market items. Just because a seller is not on the authorized list doesn't automatically make the item grey market. Key words here: If it is covered by a U.S. warranty(NOT IF IT IS SOLD BY AN AUTHORIZED DEALER), it is not grey market. Not sure how much clearer that can be made for you. :shake:

kamiraa 06-28-2013 04:45 PM

Great lens, wish they would do this on the 24-70 =p

deals2dream 06-28-2013 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zdizek (Post 60396664)
Is this lens worth the money on a crop sensor? Going to Italy with a 60D and want a quality all around lens.

dont listen any one who convinces you to buy L lens for crop sensor. You will miss a lot wide end (means we see a lot more in view finder). Iwas debaitng just like you when i bought my 60d body. So after research i bought canon 15-85mm lens for $600 from Rythercamera and it was an excellent choice I made. The 15-85mm is equivalent to L lense with out the red rig. try it out

radarco 06-28-2013 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by killershroom (Post 60402112)
You're absolutely wrong. My Canon 6D is covered by a U.S. warranty. U.S. warranty = NOT grey market. Getitdigital is not selling grey market items. Just because a seller is not on the authorized list doesn't automatically make the item grey market. Key words here: If it is covered by a U.S. warranty(NOT IF IT IS SOLD BY AN AUTHORIZED DEALER), it is not grey market. Not sure how much clearer that can be made for you. :shake:

Nope... wrong again... Google search Ken Rockwell (professional photographer) and grey market together in one search inquiry... he explains very succinctly the difference between black, grey, and white market photographic equipment... buy from an unauthorized dealer and you've purchased grey market... now my understanding is Canon is very liberal on providing warranty service on grey market camera and lenses manufactured for USA consumers...now Nikon's stance is NOT so liberal and they don't honor grey market photographic warranties in the USA... anyone guess whether Canon will change its operational policy in the future and for me I want the assurance of bona fide Canon warranty service now and in the days to come...

Freeloader87 06-28-2013 06:24 PM

that's one expensive cup. how many fl oz of coffee can it hold?

liquid_celica 06-28-2013 06:46 PM

gah, if i didn't already buy my 28mm prime!

johny3 06-28-2013 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freeloader87 (Post 60403760)
that's one expensive cup. how many fl oz of coffee can it hold?

not sure but a lot of great images can pass thru it

wish I could grab this. just bought a pool though

dreamzdecora 06-28-2013 07:10 PM

wow...good price...paid $100 more 7 months ago...

kamax 06-28-2013 07:24 PM

well f... it. I bite

tangcoral 06-28-2013 07:29 PM

$650 would be an awesome price, just too many out there on craigslist.

bluecorn 06-28-2013 07:43 PM

This was already posted and it's already on the popular section.

http://slickdeals.net/f/6119626-Warranty-Canon-EF-24-105mm-f-4L-IS-USM-Autofocus-Lens-for-Canon-DSLR-Cameras-700-Free-Shipping-eBay-Daily-Deal

UserM4 06-28-2013 09:23 PM

How is the IQ compared to a 17-55 EF-S?

max1001 06-28-2013 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AkumaX (Post 60397672)
The only issue you'd have is if you needed to take wide shots. I'm sure you've had some kind of kit lens (whether its 18-55 or 18-135). Now imagine that you don't have that extra wide range from 18-24. Will you miss it?

just take 2 steps back. :D

Qson 06-28-2013 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UserM4 (Post 60406286)
How is the IQ compared to a 17-55 EF-S?

Try out this tool and decide for yourself.

http://www.the-digital-picture.co...Crops.aspx

AlexCMusic 06-28-2013 10:08 PM

Honestly, I think this is the most overrated lens in my kit. It could be a good walkaround, but it has distortion issues, isn't horribly sharp and most importantly, isn't fast. It almost never comes out of my bag. I am aware, unfortunately, that it's the only decent lens that covers this range and isn't well above $1,000. My suggestion? Either save up for a better zoom, or get two decent primes, like the 50 f/1.4 and the 85 f/1.8. If you're on a crop sensor, you have some more options; poke around on the EF-S lineup a bit.

AkumaX 06-28-2013 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by radarco (Post 60402700)
Nope... wrong again... Google search Ken Rockwell (professional photographer)..

sorry but HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

again, I do apologize

HAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAH

but anyways, it's up to the discretion of canon USA to determine whether they want to service your lens 1) with or without a receipt and 2) from an authorized or non-authorized seller

Spencer2006 06-28-2013 10:29 PM

I got one from getitdigital through Amazon. It came without warranty card. And apparently getitdigital is not Canon authorized dealer. So it depends on Canon policy to get warranty repair.

ob1pad01 06-28-2013 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by killershroom (Post 60393962)
It doesn't matter. They will honor the warranty.

So Canon will honor anyone's warranty. Doesn't matter where you bought it?

radarco 06-28-2013 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AkumaX (Post 60406962)
sorry but HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

again, I do apologize

HAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAH

but anyways, it's up to the discretion of canon USA to determine whether they want to service your lens 1) with or without a receipt and 2) from an authorized or non-authorized seller

Yes...some people hate Ken Rockwell...others don't...as a photographer for many years I read lots of posts from a variety of professionals...including Ken Rockwell...and many of the topics he discusses are valuable to me...this one certainly was!

http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/gray-market.htm

Good Day Mate!

thinkmania 06-28-2013 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ob1pad01 (Post 60407202)
So Canon will honor anyone's warranty. Doesn't matter where you bought it?

Canon does NOT honor warranty for items purchased from an unauthorized dealer, no matter it comes with warranty card or not.

My lens was serviced by Canon once, and they explicitly requested the valid invoice from authorized dealer, but no requirement on the warranty card.

The seller apparently know this, but still put "USA warranty" in the title, which fools people who does not know how Canon warranty works. In my opinion, this seller is not trustworthy at all.

radarco 06-28-2013 11:25 PM

An excellent review of this lens is found here:

http://www.photodo.com/topic_784.html

AkumaX 06-29-2013 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by radarco (Post 60407212)
Yes...some people hate Ken Rockwell...others don't...as a photographer for many years I read lots of posts from a variety of professionals...including Ken Rockwell...and many of the topics he discusses are valuable to me...this one certainly was!

http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/gray-market.htm

Good Day Mate!

Haha no prob. He does say some interesting stuff. And from my experience dealing with Canon USA Service, my previous 18-135mm that I got from Best Buy (with a 60D kit), adter 8 months the aperture blade got stuck, and they were originally going to charge me, but once I mentioned I have my receipt it was all fine and dandy.

evo3rs 06-29-2013 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by radarco (Post 60407700)
An excellent review of this lens is found here:

http://www.photodo.com/topic_784.html


This one as well, FF and APS-C respectively http://www.photozone.de/canon_eos...24105_4_5d http://www.photozone.de/canon-eos...rt--review

From lenstip http://www.lenstip.com/index.php?...est_ob=240

RFaccord 06-29-2013 12:48 AM

darn just bought it at amazon for 778

JBaz 06-29-2013 04:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by radarco (Post 60402700)
Nope... wrong again... Google search Ken Rockwell (professional photographer) and grey market together in one search inquiry... he explains very succinctly the difference between black, grey, and white market photographic equipment... buy from an unauthorized dealer and you've purchased grey market... now my understanding is Canon is very liberal on providing warranty service on grey market camera and lenses manufactured for USA consumers...now Nikon's stance is NOT so liberal and they don't honor grey market photographic warranties in the USA... anyone guess whether Canon will change its operational policy in the future and for me I want the assurance of bona fide Canon warranty service now and in the days to come...

Buying from an unauthorized dealer does not necessarily mean you are buying an actual grey market item.

For photographic equipment (as most electronics), the proper industry usage of "grey market" means that the re-seller or dealer is buying the item intended for another region (say Europe instead of US) and reselling it in the US OR they bought them wholesale directly from the manufacture (as in buying 100 units for 10% off without warranties). Mostly now days, it tends to mean that it was bought from another market for the set local price that happens to retail cheaper than the US counterpart (due to exchange rate, tariffs, taxes and so on) and basically just transshipping it to the new market as an already purchased good without having to pay tariffs and taxes again. Even then, the product could be sold in the non-US market so cheap to still warrant paying tariff and US taxes.


Now technically, for Canon, warranty is voided if you bought a retail unit from an unauthorized dealer so technically in effect the retailed US box would have the same voided warranty status as buying an actual retailed non-US box in the US as a grey market item.

I know as both a professional photographer and buying grey market L lenses in the past that required warranty work, Canon is very liberal about fixing grey market L lenses under warranty in the US; mostly because they know many pro's from Europe, Asia and else where may come to the US to do a photo gig and need some repairs or lens alignment done with a fast turn around time and vice versa with US photog going overseas, specially if you have a CPS account.

In Canon's eye's as being such a large company, Retail is Retail; at some point, even with grey market retail items being resold in another region, warranty cost was paid at one point of the sale price. It's more cost advantageous for Canon to say "screw it, fix any serial numbers that is still under warranty" instead of taking time and resources out of the repair service to figure out if an item can or can't be serviced because the owner didn't provide a proper warranty card, signed up for their twitter page or liked Nikon instead of Canon on Facebook... It also adds more lead time if the consumer has to produce a bill of sale or invoice, which would take away from their fast and impeccable repair service times.

Considering Canon has built a rapport with all authorized Canon dealerships to establish a repair service network; their current model would not work if anyone who drops of a lens at a retailer for a repair (that has to be shipped directly back to Canon) needed to have their warranty card or bill of sale/invoice on hand at the time. No working professional would have that kind of document on hand when you are away from home; that kind of info would be tucked nicely away in the camera or lens box a few thousand miles away...

Now, all of this was for L glass; I'm not sure if warranty for regular consumer grey market items was on the same liberalness boat. I would not know, I only have L glass. Also all of my experiences with grey market L lenses were a few years ago and now they are out of warranty so the situation could have changed, but I highly doubt that as their service model hasn't changed. Also to note, I did have a CPS account.

xChanX 06-29-2013 06:12 AM

what is the difference between these two 24-105mm lenses?

http://www.amazon.com/Canon-24-10...n+24-105mm

http://www.amazon.com/Canon-24-10...n+24-105mm

RFaccord 06-29-2013 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by xChanX (Post 60409586)

the more expensive one is the official canon lens that comes with retail packaging sold directly by amazon

the cheaper version is the same lens from a kit ( usually from 5dmk3 or 6d) coes in white box. The sells usually a third party seller and fullfilled by amazon.

thinkmania 06-29-2013 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by RFaccord (Post 60409728)
the more expensive one is the official canon lens that comes with retail packaging sold directly by amazon

the cheaper version is the same lens from a kit ( usually from 5dmk3 or 6d) coes in white box. The sells usually a third party seller and fullfilled by amazon.

another major difference:
the more expensive one comes with canon official warranty
the cheaper version does not

JBaz 06-29-2013 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by thinkmania (Post 60409820)
another major difference:
the more expensive one comes with canon official warranty
the cheaper version does not

Actually...
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Dust- and moisture-resistant; measures 3.3 inches in diameter and 4.2 inches long; 1-year warranty
Even then, grab the $700 one and add a 4 year square trade 3rd party warranty plan for $140 and you'll still save a boat load of money with 4 times the warranty coverage.

Then again, any issues with any L lenses tend to happen within the first day of ownership really if something is amiss and passed through Canon's quality control, which would still be within most re-sellers return policy period.

L glass are built like tanks, I've dropped them on concrete, brick; miss handled at airports and by assistants, even used a 70-200 2.8 IS as a blunt weapon to knock a drunk assailant harassing some women in a club and they all still work, minus some cosmetic issues. I had a 20 year old 400 2.8 with its original USM that was focusing and tracking as good as a new piece of glass.


If you actually need to send an L glass back to Canon for servicing, 90% of the time, it tends to be something related to a damaged component caused by the owner, which would not be covered by normal warranty and you'd still be on the hook for the cost of repair; the remaining 10% means that you are using the crap out of the lens daily to wear something out (or most likely somehow got sand or dust particles that caused increased wear and tear) during the short warranty period. An error of ~1% are people who did not fully checkout the lens when they got it and find that the lens is back focusing with certain bodies, USM needs tweaking, or rarely the need for the lens elements to be realigned that causes poor image quality (had that happen for me on a 17-40 twice in a row).

After a certain point, its more cost advantageous to just get a CPS account if you have a lot of L glass and working as a pro since you get a lot of out of warrant repair service discount, specially if you man handle your camera's and lenses like a photojournalist; do anything and everything to get the shot. To us, they are nothing more than tools of the trade and if I accidentally trip walking backwards to grab a headline grabbing photo for AP or Getty and smash my gear, we usually stare at it, laugh it off, then make the comments "That's why we have backup camera's and insurance"...

ninjarobert 06-30-2013 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by RFaccord (Post 60409728)
the more expensive one is the official canon lens that comes with retail packaging sold directly by amazon

the cheaper version is the same lens from a kit ( usually from 5dmk3 or 6d) coes in white box. The sells usually a third party seller and fullfilled by amazon.

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Originally Posted by xChanX (Post 60409586)

No. The cheaper one is gray market. You can tell by the model number.

0344B002 = white market
0344B006 = gray market

White box is considered 'white market' if it came from a kit that was imported by an authorized dealer.

xChanX 06-30-2013 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ninjarobert (Post 60423650)
No. The cheaper one is gray market. You can tell by the model number.

0344B002 = white market
0344B006 = gray market

White box is considered 'white market' if it came from a kit that was imported by an authorized dealer.

so the item here on ebay is "white market" then?

what about the gray market?

ninjarobert 07-01-2013 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by xChanX (Post 60431790)
so the item here on ebay is "white market" then?

what about the gray market?

No idea. They list both models in the description. My feeling is that it is gray market given the low price.

Do an internet search for them... read glowing reviews on resellerratings and find some webpages about gray market equipment and bait-and-switch tactics. *shrug*

Could give them a call: http://www.getitdigital.com/ (ask for one of the serial #s ;o )

http://usaconsumercomplaints.com/...amera.html
http://getitdigitalscammers.blogs...watch.html
http://www.resellerratings.com/st...sort/likes
http://www.dgrin.com/archive/inde...19779.html

Their storefront using address on their webpage
http://donwiss.com/pictures/Brook.../h0094.htm

I'm passing even though I really want this lens -- I have no EF 'walk around lens'.... I would consider buying from them via Amazon at this price since Amazon has a really easy return policy

biggiep 07-03-2013 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by killershroom (Post 60400714)
That is not grey market. Your warranty will be honored.

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Originally Posted by killershroom (Post 60399772)
My camera from them came with a warranty card.

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Originally Posted by killershroom (Post 60402112)
You're absolutely wrong. My Canon 6D is covered by a U.S. warranty. U.S. warranty = NOT grey market. Getitdigital is not selling grey market items. Just because a seller is not on the authorized list doesn't automatically make the item grey market. Key words here: If it is covered by a U.S. warranty(NOT IF IT IS SOLD BY AN AUTHORIZED DEALER), it is not grey market. Not sure how much clearer that can be made for you. :shake:


Wow dude, you are a complete joke, and the only way someone can rationalize the filth you are posting is if you come out and admit you work for GetItDigital.

First, warranty cards mean nothing. The cards are merely for registration purposes. Canon determines warranty eligibility by serial number and their database shows whether or not a serial number is linked to an authorized seller, which GetShitDigital is not.

Second, these scam artists on eBay "honor" the US warranty by making you ship the item to them first and then they send it to Canon themselves for repair. Since these items were never purchased from an authorized seller, the eBay seller will pay out of their pocket to have Canon repair the item and when they get it back, they will send it back to you. It is worth it for them to deal with the occasional warranty this way because they get great profits selling grey-market equipment on eBay. In the end, the warranty turnaround time is much longer and you are forced to pay for shipping.


Third, it is not even a done deal that scammers like GetItDigital will even honor the warranty in the manner I mentioned above. Because they have to pay for repairs, they could just as easily send it to a non-Canon repair center and have the repair work done by random people. Also, considering the high-turnover rate of eBay sellers, if GetItDigital disappears next year, you don't even have ANYONE to hunt down to get warranty repair work done.


You are a fool and an idiot if you think these sellers are legit and you are a reason why these guys are still around. Either that or you work for them.


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