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Yeh325 09-29-2013 01:49 AM

Lenovo H530s Slim Desktop: Core i5 4440 3.1GHz, 6GB DDR3, 1TB HDD, DVD Burner, Wi-Fi, Windows 8 $369 + Free Shipping with Prime
 
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This is my first post so be nice please. I was looking for a small computer and found this Levnovo which i think its a good price considering is the 4th generation i5. The description is very vague but here is what is posted. There is a considerable lead time of 2-5 weeks.

$368.99 - Lenovo H530s (57321111) Small Desktop PC @ Amazon [amazon.com]
  • Intel Core i5 -4440 Processor 3.1 GHz(6 MB cache)
  • 6GB DDR3
  • 1000 GB 7200 rpm Hard Drive
  • Windows 8

yuugotserved 09-29-2013 01:49 AM

Lenovo H530s Desktop: Core i5 4440 3.1GHz, 6GB DDR3, 1TB 7200RPM HDD, WiFi N, USB 3.0, Windows 8 $369 + Free Shipping
 
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Amazon has Lenovo H530s Desktop for $368.69. Shipping is free. Thanks Yeh325

Note, ships within 2 to 5 weeks.

Specs
  • Intel Core i5 4440 3.1GHz
  • 6GB DDR3
  • 1TB 7200RPM HDD
  • DVDRW Drive
  • WiFi N
  • 2x USB 3.0
  • Windows 8

wikipost 09-29-2013 01:49 AM

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DEAD! :sleepy: Out of Stock



(deelseaker): There is a lot of misunderstanding/misinformation in this thread. I wanted to chime in with some research I have done on this PC/deal:
  • Price and Configuration
    • This is a mistake. Either the model number or the description is wrong. An Amazon CSR won't know any better beyond what she can see in the same product description.
    • I have come across three different H530s configurations, none of which are available yet. Descriptions are conflicting everywhere. Even the 57321113 model that is listed as having an i5 at TD is listed with a Pentium elsewhere. 57321112 may be the model number for the i5 config. Bottom line: it's a mess.
    • When you do get the PC and it's not an i5, depending on your needs, it may still be a keeper if you can get Amazon to refund $50 or so.
  • Upgrades/Specifications/Slots/Motherboard
    • This is a slim case. It will take low profile cards only. The highest you can go with a low profile setup is an HD 7750. I would recommend sticking to a single slot card too.
    • The power supply will be either a 180W or a 240W unit. If the former, I would not recommend installing an HD 7750 card.
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NOTE ABOUT THE MOTHERBOARD INFORMATION: The diagram below is may very well be WRONG. This is a slim case that only has TWO slots in the back. So, why would it have four PCI-e slots? Therefore, the diagram should be considered suspect. (deelseaker)
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Motherboard Diagram image attached: Page 11, Post #151

http://slickdeals.net/forums/showpost.php?p=62194096&postcount=151


I see 3x sata ports, but the list says 4x, so there's probably a "special" one that the disk drive attaches to at some other part of the mother board.

I added the picture of the back of the computer. The description from Lenovo says there are HDMI & VGA ports, but the back of the computer shows there are 2 HDMI and 2 VGA ports. Not certain if this is the final configuration or not. <-- The rear view pictures shows this PC with an OPTIONAL discrete graphics card in the midsection. That's where the two extra ports came from. This configuration does not list any discrete graphics, so the two ports you should expect are the ones on the top. Even then, the HDMI port is marked as optional in the manual. (deelseaker)

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NOTE TO PEOPLE WHO BOUGHT THIS SYSTEM: A SWITCH HAS BEEN MADE in Amazon's description: PENTIUM Dual-Core!!!

Intel Pentium Dual-Core G3220 Processor 3.1 GHz (6 MB cache)
6 GB DDR3 RAM
1 TB 7200 rpm Hard Drive
Windows 8

lex2000 09-29-2013 02:00 AM

If you search the model# 57321111
its an i3
http://www.macmall.com/p/Lenovo-D...dp.ieagbhc
Lenovo H530s - - 1 x Core i3 4130 / 3.4 GHz - RAM 4 GB - HDD 1 x 1 TB - DVD-Writer - Gigabit LAN - Monitor : none.

Anyway its amazon so I guess its safe to order.

NotTheBees 09-29-2013 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lex2000 (Post 62186688)
If you search the model# 57321111
its an i3
http://www.macmall.com/p/Lenovo-D...dp.ieagbhc
Lenovo H530s - - 1 x Core i3 4130 / 3.4 GHz - RAM 4 GB - HDD 1 x 1 TB - DVD-Writer - Gigabit LAN - Monitor : none.

Anyway its amazon so I guess its safe to order.

Good catch. If it was the i5 the processor alone retails for $200. On the other hand Amazon is quick to give partial refunds for their mistakes.

saltysailor 09-29-2013 03:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lex2000 (Post 62186688)
If you search the model# 57321111
its an i3
http://www.macmall.com/p/Lenovo-D...dp.ieagbhc
Lenovo H530s - - 1 x Core i3 4130 / 3.4 GHz - RAM 4 GB - HDD 1 x 1 TB - DVD-Writer - Gigabit LAN - Monitor : none.

Anyway its amazon so I guess its safe to order.

Just chatted with Amazon rep and he confirmed with Lenovo support that this desktop unit has the i5-4440 CPU.

OP, repped and TU. Good price. May pull the trigger on this one.

slickdealer1979 09-29-2013 04:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saltysailor (Post 62186926)
Just chatted with Amazon rep and he confirmed with Lenovo support that this desktop unit has the i5-4440 CPU.

OP, repped and TU. Good price. May pull the trigger on this one.

Other online retailers also show it as i3,

slickdealer1979 09-29-2013 04:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slickdealer1979 (Post 62187124)
Other online retailers also show it as i3,

I just chatted with an Amazon Rep and she wasn't able to confirm...

Lenovo H530s Processor - i5 or i3?
Hi Christy, here is the link to the product..
Christy:Good morning, I hope your day is going well. My name is Christy and I'll do everything I can to help you today.
Me: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00EQ0...(See full link)
Can you confirm if this desktop has a i5 processor or i3
If you google Item model number 57321111
Christy:I'm sorry you had to contact us about that product. I'll be glad to help.
Me:other online merchants show it as i3
Christy:Ok, thank you for waiting.
Unfortunately the only information we have available to us is the detail page information. It does show i5, but I can't confirm that. I tried searching Lenovo's site, but can't find it on there. We do have a department that can help with pre order computer questions, but they're not open until 10 am Central Time today. You can either call back to be transferred directly to that team (our customer service number is 1-866-216-1072) or you can try to contact the manufacture (Lenovo) to see if they can help you further with their product.
Or, I would be happy to send the pre order computer department an email on your behalf to ask them that and they can email you their response.
Me:Sure, would appreciate that

iWatch 09-29-2013 04:55 AM

what is their return policy?

bluewhackadoo 09-29-2013 04:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iWatch (Post 62187252)
what is their return policy?

As-Is. No returns.

ninapa 09-29-2013 05:05 AM

Tax in nj?

sdkat2 09-29-2013 05:11 AM

In for one and if it's not as advertised it will go back. Seems to be a very good deal even with the limited specs listed.

lostboy 09-29-2013 05:27 AM

Thanks, OP. I am in for 1 also. I was looking at the refurb I-3 in this same case last week. This is $70 -$80 more.
Does this come with a wireless keyboard & mouse?

sdkat2 09-29-2013 05:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostboy (Post 62187394)
Thanks, OP. I am in for 1 also. I was looking at the refurb I-3 in this same case last week. This is $70 -$80 more.
Does this come with a wireless keyboard & mouse?

It does on Lenovo's website however the model hasn't been released for sale yet. I don't think anyone knows much at this point other than the info given on Amazon's site.

MAATs 09-29-2013 05:36 AM

Is this one include a mouse and a keyboard?

dravid 09-29-2013 05:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yeh325 (Post 62186658)
This is my first post so be nice please. I was looking for a small computer and found this Levnovo which i think its a good price considering is the 4th generation i5. The description is very vague but here is what is posted. There is a considerable lead time of 2-5 weeks.

$368.99 - Lenovo H530s (57321111) Small Desktop PC @ Amazon [amazon.com]
  • Intel Core i5 -4440 Processor 3.1 GHz(6 MB cache)
  • 6GB DDR3
  • 1000 GB 7200 rpm Hard Drive
  • Windows 8

I have been tracking desktop PC prices for awhile and I can say that this is a good price for this configuration. Thanks for sharing.

misterv1 09-29-2013 05:44 AM

never bought a lenovo before. can I uograde ram and add hard drives to this?

MAATs 09-29-2013 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by misterv1 (Post 62187504)
never bought a lenovo before. can I uograde ram and add hard drives to this?

You can upgrade the ram and harddriver as long as it is not welded on the motherboard.:woot::woot:

diamondsingh 09-29-2013 05:57 AM

This model is legit. It is there on TigerDirect for 559$
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applic...4Aod6zAAnQ

The model number on Amazon is incorrect (57321111). TD has it as 57321113. This is indeed slickdeal.

Does anyone know if Amazon honors its price ?

rajkumka 09-29-2013 05:59 AM

List Price 379.99$

MAATs 09-29-2013 05:59 AM

tax in PA, god!!

kingstonkelqazq 09-29-2013 06:05 AM

video card
 
Is it easy to add a 1gb video card like the gt645?

diamondsingh 09-29-2013 06:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingstonkelqazq (Post 62187658)
Is it easy to add a 1gb video card like the gt645?

No. Doesn't look like it is possible. Check out specs / images on TigerDirect.
You can upgrade RAM though. If you are a gamer, then I would shy away from this.

sdkat2 09-29-2013 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingstonkelqazq (Post 62187658)
Is it easy to add a 1gb video card like the gt645?

Go to Lenovo's site and look at the specs for the similar H520S. There are no open slots except for a PCIex1 for a WiFi card. With regards to the H530S, the size appears to be the same so I would say no. Any questions being asked about this system really can't be answered yet, since it hasn't been released. They only info available is on the Lenovo Netherlands website.

runIrish24 09-29-2013 06:22 AM

Dumb question but would I be able to turn this into a Hackintosh. Would it function as well as if I were to follow one of the builds on those Hackintosh sites?

danafr 09-29-2013 06:25 AM

what a terrible case. I would avoid this computer like the plague.

misterv1 09-29-2013 06:31 AM

tempted to buy this. but black Friday is around 5he corner

Marktwain1982 09-29-2013 06:36 AM

I bought a Lenovo K430 and the case looks like twice the size of the H530.

Let us know in "2 to 5 weeks" if it is actually an i3 or i5. . .

Afghan 09-29-2013 06:39 AM

in 4 10

at4k 09-29-2013 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sdkat2 (Post 62187740)
Go to Lenovo's site and look at the specs for the similar H520S. There are no open slots except for a PCIex1 for a WiFi card. With regards to the H530S, the size appears to be the same so I would say no. Any questions being asked about this system really can't be answered yet, since it hasn't been released. They only info available is on the Lenovo Netherlands website.

both Lenovo UK and NL has the options of dedicated GPU upgrade for the H530s (same casing size). so there might be a chance. But it might have another issue if it requires low profile GPU card / smaller size-high wattage PSU

SkyKing02 09-29-2013 06:44 AM

Saving $11? lol

thegman230 09-29-2013 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkyKing02 (Post 62188010)
Saving $11? lol


you're not getting it....the model the OP listed has the specs of the unit that is $200 more. Amazon has the wrong model number listed, but the correct specs

Linoleum 09-29-2013 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danafr (Post 62187818)
what a terrible case. I would avoid this computer like the plague.

I actually like the case.

This is a lot of computer in a small case. If you don't game and want a very fast HTPC this would work very well. I actually game on a Lenovo laptop with HD4000 graphics and it runs WoW and Minecraft smooth as silk. I am sure it would run modern games at lower settings just fine.

Afghan 09-29-2013 06:56 AM

^this PC is easily worth $600...ur saving 40%

danafr 09-29-2013 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linoleum (Post 62188138)
I actually like the case.

This is a lot of computer in a small case. If you don't game and want a very fast HTPC this would work very well. I actually game on a Lenovo laptop with HD4000 graphics and it runs WoW and Minecraft smooth as silk. I am sure it would run modern games at lower settings just fine.

how many extra slots for a video card upgrade and a tuner card?

danafr 09-29-2013 07:01 AM

after looking at it, I will pass. you would have to upgrade the case and only 2 slots.

insyder 09-29-2013 07:01 AM

definitely a good price. I ended up building an i5 for a friend (8gb Ram and 500gb hdd) and it cost around 400, which was the lowest I could come up with (mind you latest gen i5)

cconklin1 09-29-2013 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluewhackadoo (Post 62187260)
As-Is. No returns.

are you a moron?

PoisonWolf 09-29-2013 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cconklin1 (Post 62188200)
are you a moron?

I think he forgot a /s in there.

woomer051 09-29-2013 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Afghan (Post 62188150)
^this PC is easily worth $600...ur saving 40%

Can i sell you my pcs? Lmao

Linoleum 09-29-2013 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danafr (Post 62188178)
how many extra slots for a video card upgrade and a tuner card?

From what I can see, you would not be able to add a video card. This is why I stated that it would make a great HTPC with the ability to play games at lower settings. I have a couple systems that I use the HD4000 graphics and they run just fine. I hardly notice much of a difference between those and my i5 desktop with a dedicated 6850 video card in it. It also appears that both memory slots are filled, but I cant see any reason to upgrade the RAM in this thing. For the price I think you are getting a great deal just as it stands.

sackid123 09-29-2013 07:07 AM

ships 2-5 weeks =(

KTM19 09-29-2013 07:08 AM

Nice deal. Same model sells for $560 on Tigerdirect: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applic...4Aodr1QAkg

Lazzi3 09-29-2013 07:10 AM

5% back from chase freedom if that help anyone.

twotonekarma 09-29-2013 07:12 AM

Very little point ordering price mistakes from Amazon, but thanks for the share

Lazzi3 09-29-2013 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twotonekarma (Post 62188280)
Very little point ordering price mistakes from Amazon, but thanks for the share

Excellent deal if shipped home with i5
if not, then drop at UPS...painless.

cconklin1 09-29-2013 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twotonekarma (Post 62188280)
Very little point ordering price mistakes from Amazon, but thanks for the share

same question I asked above to the other poster..
I have ordered soooo many "price mistakes" from amazon and many of them actually do ship. And those that do NOT ship are often compensated by a gift card or other bonuses form amazon.

brewswillis 09-29-2013 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iWatch (Post 62187252)
what is their return policy?



Amazon.com Return Policy: You may return any new computer purchased from Amazon.com that is "dead on arrival," arrives in damaged condition, or is still in unopened boxes, for a full refund within 30 days of purchase. Amazon.com reserves the right to test "dead on arrival" returns and impose a customer fee equal to 15 percent of the product sales price if the customer misrepresents the condition of the product. Any returned computer that is damaged through customer misuse, is missing parts, or is in unsellable condition due to customer tampering will result in the customer being charged a higher restocking fee based on the condition of the product. Amazon.com will not accept returns of any desktop or notebook computer more than 30 days after you receive the shipment. New, used, and refurbished products purchased from Marketplace vendors are subject to the returns policy of the individual vendor.

cconklin1 09-29-2013 07:18 AM

there is soo much stoopid (sic) in this thread it is making me ill...

JasonKR 09-29-2013 07:18 AM

Looks so slick...

georgekoch 09-29-2013 07:20 AM

Pretty sure that the h530s motherboard will come with 2 memory slots, 1 pcie x16 slot, and at least 2 sata ports. Lenovo should have a manual with a motherboard layout.

you probably could get the sapphire radeon 7750 low profile 1 gb gddr5 in there given that it lists a gt 635 discrete card as an option.

brewswillis 09-29-2013 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thegman230 (Post 62188046)
you're not getting it....the model the OP listed has the specs of the unit that is $200 more. Amazon has the wrong model number listed, but the correct specs

Or, it's more likely that they have the correct model number, but the wrong specs listed.......due to the price it's selling for.

Rylan 09-29-2013 07:20 AM

You absolutely can put a low profile video card in this computer. In addition to that, if the low profile video card is a single slot, you can also use the x1 PCI-E slot below it (again, it will have to be low profile).

RTFM - Lenovo H530s Hardware Maintenance Manual [lenovo.com]

bchill 09-29-2013 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lazzi3 (Post 62188268)
5% back from chase freedom if that help anyone.

Not until October

bored7one4 09-29-2013 07:24 AM

In for one. I was going to build an i3 for a friend but if this comes with an i5 then this blows my build out of the water


Thanks OP. good find. Let's see if this deals holds up or if it's a mistake.

wguy444 09-29-2013 07:26 AM

it seems slick, thx OP, repped.

if deal stands as is, i5 4gen cpu alone will worth $200+

georgekoch 09-29-2013 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rylan (Post 62188376)
You absolutely can put a low profile video card in this computer. In addition to that, if the low profile video card is a single slot, you can also use the x1 PCI-E slot below it (again, it will have to be low profile).

RTFM - Lenovo H530s Hardware Maintenance Manual [lenovo.com]

I just found this as well. 2 memory slots, 1 x16 slot, 3 x1 slots, and 3 or 4 sata slots (picture shows 3, description shows 4).

misterv1 09-29-2013 07:38 AM

was going to build my own machine for Black friday....pulled trigger on this instead

at4k 09-29-2013 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by georgekoch (Post 62188476)
I just found this as well. 2 memory slots, 1 x16 slot, 3 x1 slots, and 3 or 4 sata slots (picture shows 3, description shows 4).

Standard sized dedicated GPU normally uses which slot? Can we only use low profile GPU card only for this?

alanbrenton 09-29-2013 07:42 AM

How much worst is the Haswell i3 on this compared to the i5 on the specs?

smtrekkers 09-29-2013 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bchill (Post 62188406)
Not until October

It'll be October when this ships and that's when Amazon charges the credit card. Should work for 5%.

iWatch 09-29-2013 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brewswillis (Post 62188340)

Amazon.com Return Policy: You may return any new computer purchased from Amazon.com that is "dead on arrival," arrives in damaged condition, or is still in unopened boxes, for a full refund within 30 days of purchase. Amazon.com reserves the right to test "dead on arrival" returns and impose a customer fee equal to 15 percent of the product sales price if the customer misrepresents the condition of the product. Any returned computer that is damaged through customer misuse, is missing parts, or is in unsellable condition due to customer tampering will result in the customer being charged a higher restocking fee based on the condition of the product. Amazon.com will not accept returns of any desktop or notebook computer more than 30 days after you receive the shipment. New, used, and refurbished products purchased from Marketplace vendors are subject to the returns policy of the individual vendor.

Thank you.
I also chatted & learnt that it is full refund, particularly if not an i5 (specs mismatch).

LDP 09-29-2013 07:54 AM

Ordered One. Not happy with the tax though...

i have a week time to decide on this...Thanks OP.

alanbrenton 09-29-2013 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iWatch (Post 62188728)
Thank you.
I also chatted & learnt that it is full refund, particularly if not an i5 (specs mismatch).

By chat, did you mean over the phone or some chat window where we have a written audit trail? TIA.

Quote:

Originally Posted by brycelfield (Post 62186810)
Good catch. If it was the i5 the processor alone retails for $200. On the other hand Amazon is quick to give partial refunds for their mistakes.

The problem is the i3 is priced at around $460 at Macmall so Amazon might not refund anything if it were an i3.

vmanne 09-29-2013 08:05 AM

With tax $394.50
Item(s) Subtotal: $368.69
Shipping & Handling: $0.00
-----
Total before tax: $368.69
Estimated tax to be collected: $25.81
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Grand Total: $394.50

brewswillis 09-29-2013 08:16 AM

Ahh, screw it......I broke down and bought one. :lol:

charles0511 09-29-2013 08:16 AM

How is that Smartguard Warranty.

AGpennypacker 09-29-2013 08:20 AM

dammit. i was about to build a new server/htpc with either an a8 or a new i3, but with windows this is a much better deal.

BUT i don't see where it has mobo raid ( which i need) and a little concerned that i wont be able to fit the other 2x1.5 tb drives in.

other note, it uses a proprietary psu and motherboard, so no replacing the mobo unless i want to get a new psu with a regular 24 pin connector. who knows, maybe i should get this and gut the thing of the cpu, hdd, and ram.

justm3 09-29-2013 08:26 AM

Quick question and not very tech savvy. Has HDMI? Dont see it listed. Can I add a HDD from my old computer along with the one already in this one?

Tep 09-29-2013 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justm3 (Post 62189110)
Quick question and not very tech savvy. Has HDMI? Dont see it listed. Can I add a HDD from my old computer along with the one already in this one?

According to lenovos website it does have HDMI and yes you should be able to add a HDD

http://shop.lenovo.com/nl/en/desk...l#features

AGpennypacker 09-29-2013 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justm3 (Post 62189110)
Quick question and not very tech savvy. Has HDMI? Dont see it listed. Can I add a HDD from my old computer along with the one already in this one?

yes to hdmi, and probably to the hdd. you just need an extra sata cable, and it should have a power cable from the mobo i think ( usually it's from the psu, but according to manual power goes to the mobo and the out.)

i'm not sure where you would put it inside, as i cant really find out much about the interior.

here is the manual
[lenovo.com]

energyx 09-29-2013 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tep (Post 62189158)
would be very surprised if it did not have HDMI and yes you should be able to add a HDD

With a slim case, I doubt there is any room for extra drives.

mrsunny 09-29-2013 08:35 AM

Deal seems good however, the same item is listed on the Amazon itself by Amazon as seller with higher price with different specs with an i3-4130 processor. Am not sure if this is a mistake?
http://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-5732...m_sbs_pc_2

AGpennypacker 09-29-2013 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by energyx (Post 62189188)
With a slim case, I doubt there is any room for extra drives.


yup, a ssd would be easy, just get some velcro, but a 3.5 large hdd looks like it will be a problem.

justm3 09-29-2013 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tep (Post 62189158)
would be very surprised if it did not have HDMI and yes you should be able to add a HDD

Yes I'm pretty sure it has HDMI as well as but just to make sure since there is already the chance of mistakes regarding model, etc. I just want to make sure as this will be my new htpc to replace over 5yr old computer. I would definitely like to be able to add me old hdd to this. Anyone estimate what a laptop with similar specs might cost? Just curious.

ObiYawn 09-29-2013 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danafr (Post 62187818)
what a terrible case. I would avoid this computer like the plague.

It's a great case -- I have the H320 which has the same case.

fatboysam 09-29-2013 08:57 AM

Does anyone know how many PCIe slots does it have???

jyear 09-29-2013 09:04 AM

So tempted as I need a new PC!

Vitrector 09-29-2013 09:07 AM

couple of questions:
- Is there an on-board video card? If not, will I be able to get a serviceable video card for the computer for <$100?
- Can I use USB 3.0 and an SSD disk drive with this machine?
- does anyone have experience (favorable or otherwise) with the $25 4 year warranty offered with the product?

dalemi1 09-29-2013 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fatboysam (Post 62189484)
Does anyone know how many PCIe slots does it have???

1 PCIe slot available

deelseaker 09-29-2013 09:15 AM

There is a lot of misunderstanding/misinformation in this thread. I wanted to chime in with some research I have done on this PC/deal:
  • Price and Configuration
    • This is a mistake. Either the model number or the description is wrong. An Amazon CSR won't know any better beyond what she can see in the same product description.
    • I have come across three different H530s configurations, none of which are available yet. Descriptions are conflicting everywhere. Even the 57321113 model that is listed as having an i5 at TD is listed with a Pentium elsewhere. 57321112 may be the model number for the i5 config. Bottom line: it's a mess.
    • When you do get the PC and it's not an i5, depending on your needs, it may still be a keeper if you can get Amazon to refund $50 or so.
  • Upgrades/Specifications/Slots/Motherboard
    • This is a slim case. It will take low profile cards only. The highest you can go with a low profile setup is an HD 7750. I would recommend sticking to a single slot card too.
    • The power supply will be either a 180W or a 240W unit. If the former, I would not recommend installing an HD 7750 card.
    • There most likely not be 4 PCI-e slots in there. There is definitely only 2 slots on the back of the case. The most likely slot configuration on the motherboard is one x16 PCI-e slot and one x1 PCI-e slot.
    • There is no room for an extra hard drive. An SSD should fit somewhere, as another user pointed out. That's assuming that there is an extra SATA port or a power connector.
    • There may not be an HDMI port. It's listed as optional in the manual. The issue is moot if you install a discrete graphics card which most likely will have one.
    • WAIT to get your PC before you buy any graphics cards or SSDs. Investigate the power supply rating and the physical layout/obstructions inside the case.

Lazzi3 09-29-2013 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vitrector (Post 62189576)
couple of questions:
- Is there an on-board video card? If not, will I be able to get a serviceable video card for the computer for <$100?
- Can I use USB 3.0 and an SSD disk drive with this machine?
- does anyone have experience (favorable or otherwise) with the $25 4 year warranty offered with the product?


Video on board

2 usb3 ports

and no

AGpennypacker 09-29-2013 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justm3 (Post 62189322)
Yes I'm pretty sure it has HDMI as well as but just to make sure since there is already the chance of mistakes regarding model, etc. I just want to make sure as this will be my new htpc to replace over 5yr old computer. I would definitely like to be able to add me old hdd to this. Anyone estimate what a laptop with similar specs might cost? Just curious.

you would have to get an i7 in a laptop, as i5's are dual cores with hyperthreading and even then they are usually lower clock and dont perform as well. with that said, not many people need the power of a haswell desktop i5.

Quote:

Originally Posted by deelseaker (Post 62189664)
There is a lot of misunderstanding/misinformation in this thread. I wanted to chime in with some research I have done on this PC/deal:
  • Price and Configuration
    • This is a mistake. Either the model number or the description is wrong. An Amazon CSR won't know any better beyond what she can see in the same product description.
    • I have come across three different H530s configurations, none of which are available yet. Descriptions are conflicting everywhere. Even the 57321113 model that is listed as having an i5 at TD is listed with a Pentium elsewhere. 57321112 may be the model number for the i5 config. Bottom line: it's a mess.
    • When you do get the PC and it's not an i5, depending on your needs, it may still be a keeper if you can get Amazon to refund $50 or so.
  • Upgrades/Specifications/Slots/Motherboard
    • This is a slim case. It will take low profile cards only. The highest you can go with a low profile setup is an HD 7750. I would recommend sticking to a single slot card too.
    • The power supply will be either a 180W or a 240W unit. If the former, I would not recommend installing an HD 7750 card.
    • There most likely not be 4 PCI-e slots in there. There is definitely only 2 slots on the back of the case. The most likely slot configuration on the motherboard is one x16 PCI-e slot and one x1 PCI-e slot.
    • There is no room for an extra hard drive. An SSD should fit somewhere, as another user pointed out. That's assuming that there is an extra SATA port or a power connector.
    • There may not be an HDMI port. It's listed as optional in the manual. The issue is moot if you install a discrete graphics card which most likely will have one.
    • WAIT to get your PC before you buy any graphics cards or SSDs. Investigate the power supply rating and the physical layout/obstructions inside the case.

awesome info, thanks. 2 other question, is it a mini itx board, or something proprietary? also it looks like a proprietary psu and 14 pin motherboard power. any way to get a regular atx psu to make this thing work?

Buckeyefan 1 09-29-2013 09:20 AM

Benchmark is 5648. Wow, very nice.

Slim case towers are very limited, but you can get a slim profile Graphics car in it. Tight fit.

Windows 8 will be the kicker here with a desktop. A nice touchscreen monitor would be wonderful, otherwise stick the old desktop app on it. The new W8 without a touchscreen is less than stellar.

Great find OP. Lots of power in a small machine. Great for a cheap HTPC with 10x the flexibility as Apple TV or Roku.

fatboysam 09-29-2013 09:33 AM

I am confused,,,,, is it a good deal or not ??? it this a price mistake??? what if the product is slightly different than will amazon provide full refund ???

cusco 09-29-2013 09:35 AM

lol.. just add to cart and was about to check out only to see:

Estimated delivery: Oct. 23, 2013 - Nov. 5, 2013

maybe better to wait to see what BF will bring?

jacure 09-29-2013 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fatboysam (Post 62189928)
I am confused,,,,, is it a good deal or not ??? it this a price mistake??? what if the product is slightly different than will amazon provide full refund ???

Yes, they will give you a full refund if is not as described.

deelseaker 09-29-2013 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AGpennypacker (Post 62189698)
awesome info, thanks. 2 other question, is it a mini itx board, or something proprietary? also it looks like a proprietary psu and 14 pin motherboard power. any way to get a regular atx psu to make this thing work?

No clue, as I have not seen this PC. I went by the manual that someone linked a couple of pages back - and my prior experience. One thing is certain: the mobo layout in the manual may not be accurate (I doubt there are 3 PCI-e x1 slots there). The PSU will most likely be proprietary because of the space limitations. If there is an after market PSU with a higher wattage, it will most likely be expensive. Plus, you start getting into an area where the thermals may get out of specs for this kind of case.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vitrector (Post 62189576)
- Is there an on-board video card? If not, will I be able to get a serviceable video card for the computer for <$100?
- Can I use USB 3.0 and an SSD disk drive with this machine?

The safest answer is: no one knows for sure yet. If you are adventurous enough, these are the graphics cards to get (the HD 7750 is probably faster):

SAPPHIRE 100357LP Radeon HD 7750 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready Low Profile Video Card [newegg.com]

GIGABYTE GV-N640D5-1GL GeForce GT 640 1GB 64-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 HDCP Ready Low Profile Video Card [newegg.com]

fatboysam 09-29-2013 09:42 AM

why are people asking about after market graphics card? what is the problem in using the one that comes with it ?

flancrest 09-29-2013 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fatboysam (Post 62190078)
why are people asking about after market graphics card? what is the problem in using the one that comes with it ?

it isn't very good for gaming (where gaming means running the latest games at high resolution and frame rate settings)

lleung1980 09-29-2013 09:46 AM

i'm guessing I should not have any problem replace with a BR player right???

Any no room for extra HDD?

Would this be good for HTPC?

dragontales 09-29-2013 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fatboysam (Post 62190078)
why are people asking about after market graphics card? what is the problem in using the one that comes with it ?

That card is limp.

caveman01 09-29-2013 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingstonkelqazq (Post 62187658)
Is it easy to add a 1gb video card like the gt645?

the case is.small. you'll only be able to add a low profile GFX card which could be useless as it already have HD4600, would be good for older games.

georgekoch 09-29-2013 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fatboysam (Post 62190078)
why are people asking about after market graphics card? what is the problem in using the one that comes with it ?

It doesn't have a graphics card, it uses the integrated gpu in that comes with the haswell processor.

A radeon 7750 is going to permit a lot more games to run with more features and at higher resolutions (I.e., 1080p gaming).

caveman01 09-29-2013 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flancrest (Post 62190122)
it isn't very good for gaming (where gaming means running the latest games at high resolution and frame rate settings)

yeah, not the latest games of course. but a true SDer has a lot of Steam games backlog that are years old, enough for this machine to play lol

caveman01 09-29-2013 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by georgekoch (Post 62190160)
It doesn't have a graphics card, it uses the integrated gpu in that comes with the haswell processor.

A radeon 7750 is going to permit a lot more games to run with more features and at higher resolutions (I.e., 1080p gaming).

don't think that card could fit, unless they produce a low profile (slim) 7750. all low profile cards I've seen are lower gfx cards, since they don't need built in fans attached to it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by lleung1980 (Post 62190126)
i'm guessing I should not have any problem replace with a BR player right???

Any no room for extra HDD?

Would this be good for HTPC?

htpc? yes.

BR, dunno. but if you are knowledgeable (done many computers) then maybe you can.

This only has room for one HDD. it's a pretty small case

AGpennypacker 09-29-2013 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deelseaker (Post 62190046)
No clue, as I have not seen this PC. I went by the manual that someone linked a couple of pages back - and my prior experience. One thing is certain: the mobo layout in the manual may not be accurate (I doubt there are 3 PCI-e x1 slots there). The PSU will most likely be proprietary because of the space limitations. If there is an after market PSU with a higher wattage, it will most likely be expensive. Plus, you start getting into an area where the thermals may get out of specs for this kind of case.

yeah, i was looking at replacing the case so i can get my 2 1.5tb drives in there. i have a fujitsu mx130 s2 [newegg.com] that my psu fired my mobo. it's proprietary too, and takes an 18 pin psu but the mobo is matx.

after looking at the manual, it looks like it's a short matx, so that would work, but the psu would probably not be an exact fit in the fuj case.

may be worth a roll of the dice, but i doubt these ship anyways so who knows...

phantaci 09-29-2013 09:55 AM

5% cashback from amazon for chase freedom card starting 10/1...UGH

Edit: Does anyone know if the cashback is counted from the day that the order is placed or when the card is actually charged (ship date).

TIA!

caveman01 09-29-2013 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AGpennypacker (Post 62189010)
dammit. i was about to build a new server/htpc with either an a8 or a new i3, but with windows this is a much better deal.

BUT i don't see where it has mobo raid ( which i need) and a little concerned that i wont be able to fit the other 2x1.5 tb drives in.

other note, it uses a proprietary psu and motherboard, so no replacing the mobo unless i want to get a new psu with a regular 24 pin connector. who knows, maybe i should get this and gut the thing of the cpu, hdd, and ram.

New case at that, too

caveman01 09-29-2013 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by energyx (Post 62189188)
With a slim case, I doubt there is any room for extra drives.

yes, very slim. it's like the PS3's.big brother... just weaker in the graphics dept Hahahaha

danafr 09-29-2013 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lleung1980 (Post 62190126)
i'm guessing I should not have any problem replace with a BR player right???

Any no room for extra HDD?

Would this be good for HTPC?

NO! if you want good cooling and custom upgrades an even bigger NO!

it's a good basic computer for internet surfers and MS Office products.
that's about it.

BoBigRed 09-29-2013 10:02 AM

I never buy warranty coverage. However, do you think it's worth $25 to add the 4 year coverage. I'm using this for my business.

marqoid 09-29-2013 10:04 AM

Amazon CSR response
 
This was the email response from a Amazon CSR, seems accurate except that he makes a typo of i4.

Hello,

I understand your concern regarding the processor for your item.

I would like to inform you that this item is i5 and not i4. It is showing that because Lenovo has not yet released this item. Once the item will release changes will be done on website as well.

In addition to our large selection, one of the benefits we try very hard to offer our customers is convenience. I'm very sorry for the inconvenience you experienced in this case.

I hope this works out for you. We look forward to seeing you again soon.

Best regards,
Ankush P

caveman01 09-29-2013 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by misterv1 (Post 62187882)
tempted to buy this. but black Friday is around 5he corner

take note:.black Friday deals usually are good deals, but I've also seen better deals weeks or a couple of months before black Friday. plus, the door buster ones are always too limited, unless you don't mind waiting long in line, die or get injured during those DB sale lol jk

georgekoch 09-29-2013 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by caveman01 (Post 62190228)
don't think that card could fit, unless they produce a low profile (slim) 7750. all low profile cards I've seen are lower gfx cards, since they don't need built in fans attached to it.

Sapphire makes a low profile 7750 that is also single slot.

dalemi1 09-29-2013 10:07 AM

I took the plunge! I decided to replace my 6 year old Dell. This is a great price for an i5. I'll install a ssd if it'll fit and has an additional sata cable.

Mithinco 09-29-2013 10:08 AM

In for 1! Hopefully it'll be easy to take the parts out and assimilate it into my custom build :D

alinski 09-29-2013 10:08 AM

Can I connect multiple monitors? No specs or pictures of what the rear of the PC looks like.

caveman01 09-29-2013 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by misterv1 (Post 62188566)
was going to build my own machine for Black friday....pulled trigger on this instead

yep, better deal than making one since this comes with OS already and Haswell chip

RainFall 09-29-2013 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoBigRed (Post 62190384)
I never buy warranty coverage. However, do you think it's worth $25 to add the 4 year coverage. I'm using this for my business.

7% chance of a problem in 4 years? I think it's good value assuming it covers everything.

pug_ster 09-29-2013 10:10 AM

This would've been a good deal but you can't put a full size video card. Pass.

Mithinco 09-29-2013 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pug_ster (Post 62190540)
This would've been a good deal but you can't put a full size video card. Pass.

Just put it into a larger case! Problem solved.

BoBigRed 09-29-2013 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RainFall (Post 62190538)
7% chance of a problem in 4 years? I think it's good value assuming it covers everything.

Yeah, that's true. I'll review the warranty coverage, but I'll probably add it.

I just placed the order without it, but I think I can still add it. I have 10 dell computers in my office now all hooked up to a server. They ran about $600 a piece so this is a great deal with better specs. I bout those about a year ago though.

Thanks!

bail_w 09-29-2013 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alinski (Post 62190500)
Can I connect multiple monitors? No specs or pictures of what the rear of the PC looks like.

you probably need a discrete graphic card if you want multiple monitors

phantaci 09-29-2013 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marqoid (Post 62190410)
This was the email response from a Amazon CSR, seems accurate except that he makes a typo of i4.

Hello,

I understand your concern regarding the processor for your item.

I would like to inform you that this item is i5 and not i4. It is showing that because Lenovo has not yet released this item. Once the item will release changes will be done on website as well.

In addition to our large selection, one of the benefits we try very hard to offer our customers is convenience. I'm very sorry for the inconvenience you experienced in this case.

I hope this works out for you. We look forward to seeing you again soon.

Best regards,
Ankush P

i4? :lmao:

jacure 09-29-2013 10:17 AM

I don't think this is a price mistake. I have seen a 3rd generation i5 with 8gb of memory for like $399 at newegg. This only has 6gb n 4th generation i5., so sounds about right. If you want to game this is not for you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by phantaci (Post 62190654)
i4? :lmao:

You never heard of inline 4=i4:)

chaboh 09-29-2013 10:23 AM

someone post up a pic of the rear of the PC. Here's the link:

http://www.lenovo.com/images/gall...back-7.jpg

tigerplayer 09-29-2013 10:26 AM

highly doubt this will get shipped if it is a mistake. Similar thing happened recently on a Z87 mother board. several people talked to several CSRs and all got confirmed that a Z87 will be shipped over phone/chat. All orders however were eventually canceled.

bestdeal 09-29-2013 10:30 AM

video card is Intel HD?

Bobby_Pro 09-29-2013 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mithinco (Post 62190612)
Just put it into a larger case! Problem solved.

Then the desktop wont be slim. Problem not solved.

lleung1980 09-29-2013 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danafr (Post 62190372)
NO! if you want good cooling and custom upgrades an even bigger NO!

it's a good basic computer for internet surfers and MS Office products.
that's about it.

why do u think that I cannot update to BR drive from the DVD?

georgekoch 09-29-2013 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chaboh (Post 62190738)
someone post up a pic of the rear of the PC. Here's the link:

http://www.lenovo.com/images/gall...back-7.jpg

Thats not the right model. For one, that is a full size case.

ls1dreams 09-29-2013 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bestdeal (Post 62190834)
video card is Intel HD?

Probably just the onboard HD 4600 or whatever

flyingvz 09-29-2013 11:08 AM

so I have a cougar spike mATX case lying around, can i take all the components in this and put in in the cougar spike case??? I want to do this so that i can fit a better graphics card, I know that I'll likely have to buy a higher rated PSU as well.

the components alone + windows make this is a pretty damn good deal

xtp 09-29-2013 11:09 AM

4440, kinda a super bad luck number if you guys are into such things.. just putting it out there.

poohbie 09-29-2013 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xtp (Post 62191336)
4440, kinda a super bad luck number if you guys are into such things.. just putting it out there.

Give me an i5-6660 if it's a hot deal. :nod:

GVegasG 09-29-2013 11:13 AM

In 4 1
 
In 4 1. $401.87 with tax in CA

xtp 09-29-2013 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by poohbie (Post 62191378)
Give me an i5-6660 if it's a hot deal. :nod:

some people like to be rebels.

some people "want" to go to hell

some people are afraid of chicken nuggets..

:hug:

BrokenStr8 09-29-2013 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xtp (Post 62191336)
4440, kinda a super bad luck number if you guys are into such things.. just putting it out there.


Heh..Are you Chinese? Well 369 is kinda a sexy number, so that kinda off set it maybe?

The NY tax and the small case is a killer for me.

BrokenStr8 09-29-2013 11:28 AM

What are the chances of Amazon offering compensation(gift card) if this is a price mistake and they won't ship it?

smart231 09-29-2013 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrokenStr8 (Post 62191636)
What are the chances of Amazon offering compensation(gift card) if this is a price mistake and they won't ship it?

zero. Amazon would just send you an email and remove the order from the your order history.

ramkum_143 09-29-2013 11:47 AM

Looking for a desktop that can handle two hard drives to enable RAID 1. Can we install a second hard drive in place of the DVD RW drive in this model?

paranoiaboi07 09-29-2013 11:52 AM

think i can reuse this motherboard in another case? o_O i wonder if it's microatx or atx...

cconklin1 09-29-2013 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alanbrenton (Post 62188758)
By chat, did you mean over the phone or some chat window where we have a written audit trail? TIA.



The problem is the i3 is priced at around $460 at Macmall so Amazon might not refund anything if it were an i3.

You are so clueless it hurts my brain to read your posts...

alanbrenton 09-29-2013 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cconklin1 (Post 62192110)
You are so clueless it hurts my brain to read your posts...

Are you that dumb not to just put me on ignore?

$TFU if you have nothing better to say. You are on my ignore list. My brain definitely is light years ahead of yours.

cconklin1 09-29-2013 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danafr (Post 62190372)
NO! if you want good cooling and custom upgrades an even bigger NO!

it's a good basic computer for internet surfers and MS Office products.
that's about it.

Once again confirming my post that there is soooooo much stoopid in this thread.
Yeah, an I5 is only good for surfing the internet...
Sheesh..

iWatch 09-29-2013 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alanbrenton (Post 62188758)
By chat, did you mean over the phone or some chat window where we have a written audit trail? TIA.

Yes, I have transcript of the chat session. Rep told that it will stay on record for reference, if there is an issue with processing the RMA.

fatboysam 09-29-2013 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ramkum_143 (Post 62191958)
Looking for a desktop that can handle two hard drives to enable RAID 1. Can we install a second hard drive in place of the DVD RW drive in this model?

Can anyone please confirm this point?? there is no way to add one more drive?

AGpennypacker 09-29-2013 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flyingvz (Post 62191326)
so I have a cougar spike mATX case lying around, can i take all the components in this and put in in the cougar spike case??? I want to do this so that i can fit a better graphics card, I know that I'll likely have to buy a higher rated PSU as well.

the components alone + windows make this is a pretty damn good deal

Be careful. I thought about that but it looks like it doesn't take a 24 pin power cable.

danafr 09-29-2013 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cconklin1 (Post 62192156)
Once again confirming my post that there is soooooo much stoopid in this thread.
Yeah, an I5 is only good for surfing the internet...
Sheesh..

I said, About bub, also Photoshop/lightroom and some video editing and streaming.

fiire 09-29-2013 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danafr (Post 62192912)
I said, About bub, also Photoshop/lightroom and some video editing and streaming.

what would it NOT be good for except gaming then

danafr 09-29-2013 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fiire (Post 62193180)
what would it NOT be good for except gaming then

Video Editing of HD raw files, it will be a little slow.

Outlawdevil 09-29-2013 01:20 PM

Can I play league of legend on this?

AGpennypacker 09-29-2013 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by webmastir (Post 62193536)
As someone who has purchased a couple of these from Newegg, it does come with an i3, and you won't get the said 6GB of memory. You may not believe me, but trust them when they say no returns (it's as-is for a reason). Bullshit, yes but pretty cheap price nonetheless.

they will absolutely allow you to return it at no charge, if it isn't as advertised. otherwise you have legal recourse. nor is it sold "as-is." it's brand new.

Tom425 09-29-2013 01:39 PM

I'll pass..too much uncertainty about the specs, plus the tax for me sort of kills it.

BoBigRed 09-29-2013 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by webmastir (Post 62193536)
As someone who has purchased a couple of these from Newegg, it does come with an i3, and you won't get the said 6GB of memory. You may not believe me, but trust them when they say no returns (it's as-is for a reason). Bullshit, yes but pretty cheap price nonetheless.

So the unit that I ordered that says I5 and 6gb of ram is an I3 and 4gb?

Honestly just asking the question.

LiadL 09-29-2013 01:42 PM

Anyone know the max RAM the motherboard will handle, assuming 2 slots on the slim tower?

pipedreamer 09-29-2013 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoBigRed (Post 62193598)
So the unit that I ordered that says I5 and 6gb of ram is an I3 and 4gb?

Honestly just asking the question.

If it is , it`s going back !

Shane369 09-29-2013 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrokenStr8 (Post 62191590)
Heh..Are you Chinese? Well 369 is kinda a sexy number, so that kinda off set it maybe?

The NY tax and the small case is a killer for me.

I guess I'm just all kind of messed up then! My username ends in 369 and my bank # has 666 in it, so I'm just a walking accident then.....

xtp 09-29-2013 02:19 PM

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Motherboard Diagram attached.

misterv1 09-29-2013 02:25 PM

if it is a mistake I think amazon would have took it down by now.

MrBlackFriday 09-29-2013 02:42 PM

If this desktop isn't what is described it'll be an easy return and probably a $10 credit per desktop I purchased as a promo for the mistake. Amazon is awesome with returns and fixing their errors.

coolcat2 09-29-2013 02:54 PM

I have seen some people say this would be good to use as a HTPC. I'm not very tech savy, but could I install a dual tuner and set this up as a DVR?

misterv1 09-29-2013 03:03 PM

Well if you think about it a new Mac Mini (w/ i5), 4GB ram and 500GB HD is priced at $599 regularly. I'm assuming when they put a Haswell in it will be the same price. So, $369 ($230 difference) for a PC which is larger much larger than the Mac Mini and has much less demand shouldn't be much of a suprise.

DennisDo 09-29-2013 03:18 PM

Thanks, just bought this as a mini server. Hopefully this isn't a power consumption since I've read somewhere in this thread that this PC uses below 300 watts.

snypaz 09-29-2013 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by misterv1 (Post 62194644)
Well if you think about it a new Mac Mini (w/ i5), 4GB ram and 500GB HD is priced at $599 regularly. I'm assuming when they put a Haswell in it will be the same price. So, $369 ($230 difference) for a PC which is larger much larger than the Mac Mini and has much less demand shouldn't be much of a suprise.

The i5 4440 and windows 8 cost $300 alone on newegg...

This pc has a better cpu (quad core vs dual), more ram, and bigger hd than the mac mini

ghostwriter66 09-29-2013 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by misterv1 (Post 62187882)
tempted to buy this. but black Friday is around 5he corner

Holy cow .. I didn't think of that at all ... man - where did this year go to???

ghostwriter66 09-29-2013 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by webmastir (Post 62193536)
As someone who has purchased a couple of these from Newegg, it does come with an i3, and you won't get the said 6GB of memory. You may not believe me, but trust them when they say no returns (it's as-is for a reason). Bullshit, yes but pretty cheap price nonetheless.

YE to the no-returns - been through that and lost ... BUT last time Amazon made a mistake like this with one of the computers I ordered they gave me a $50 gift card for the inconvenience .. so ... ordered one because I just need a MS Office computer for a second office in my office for my wife .. if the specs don't match up exactly - then I will simply call .. and will shoot for $100 gift card but settle for $50 ...

MagicBlueMan 09-29-2013 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snypaz (Post 62195042)
This pc has a better cpu (quad core vs dual), more ram, and bigger hd than the mac mini

This is a lot larger than a mac mini.

jacure 09-29-2013 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagicBlueMan (Post 62195204)
This is a lot larger than a mac mini.

N better than the mini

strangerr 09-29-2013 03:57 PM

This would be good for HTPC, although the hard drive is kind of small. As for tuners, I use Ceton 4 tuner cablecard ($200 msrp) but they now have a 6 tuner cablecard for $300. Silicon dust and Hauppauge also have up to 3 tuner cablecards. You also have external network or usb options too. Lots of options.

Quote:

Originally Posted by coolcat2 (Post 62194534)
I have seen some people say this would be good to use as a HTPC. I'm not very tech savy, but could I install a dual tuner and set this up as a DVR?


jacure 09-29-2013 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by misterv1 (Post 62194644)
Well if you think about it a new Mac Mini (w/ i5), 4GB ram and 500GB HD is priced at $599 regularly. I'm assuming when they put a Haswell in it will be the same price. So, $369 ($230 difference) for a PC which is larger much larger than the Mac Mini and has much less demand shouldn't be much of a suprise.

Mini does not even compare to this, lol. Go n buy that crap mini if it makes you feel netter about yourself.:woot:

krazymop 09-29-2013 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by strangerr (Post 62195434)
This would be good for HTPC, although the hard drive is kind of small. As for tuners, I use Ceton 4 tuner cablecard ($200 msrp) but they now have a 6 tuner cablecard for $300. Silicon dust and Hauppauge also have up to 3 tuner cablecards. You also have external network or usb options too. Lots of options.

I'm curious why anyone would need 6 tuners? Is there that much on TV at any one time that worthy of being DVRed? I'm assuming I'm missing something, and there is another reason to have 6 tuners.

joshownsyouall 09-29-2013 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by krazymop (Post 62195490)
I'm curious why anyone would need 6 tuners? Is there that much on TV at any one time that worthy of being DVRed? I'm assuming I'm missing something, and there is another reason to have 6 tuners.

Nfl Sunday ticket, NBA league pass over here. Sometimes ill record like five games going on at once

krazymop 09-29-2013 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by joshownsyouall (Post 62195614)
Nfl Sunday ticket, NBA league pass over here. Sometimes ill record like five games going on at once

Makes sense. I'd never have the time to watch them, but I can see skimming the highlights.

fatboysam 09-29-2013 04:17 PM

this PC is not available anymore..

deelseaker 09-29-2013 04:20 PM

A lot of people are jumping on this without understanding what they may be getting into. I will repost what I posted earlier today (and added to the thread's Wiki):

There is a lot of misunderstanding/misinformation in this thread. I wanted to chime in with some research I have done on this PC/deal:
  • Price and Configuration
    • This is a mistake. Either the model number or the description is wrong. An Amazon CSR won't know any better beyond what she can see in the same product description.
    • I have come across three different H530s configurations, none of which are available yet. Descriptions are conflicting everywhere. Even the 57321113 model that is listed as having an i5 at TD is listed with a Pentium elsewhere. 57321112 may be the model number for the i5 config. Bottom line: it's a mess.
    • When you do get the PC and it's not an i5, depending on your needs, it may still be a keeper if you can get Amazon to refund $50 or so.
  • Upgrades/Specifications/Slots/Motherboard
    • This is a slim case. It will take low profile cards only. The highest you can go with a low profile setup is an HD 7750. I would recommend sticking to a single slot card too.
    • The power supply will be either a 180W or a 240W unit. If the former, I would not recommend installing an HD 7750 card.
NOTE ABOUT THE INFORMATION IN THE MANUAL: Some information in the manual may be incorrect. For example, the motherboard layout diagram may very well be WRONG. This is a slim case that only has TWO slots in the back. So, why would it have four PCI-e slots? Therefore, the diagram should be considered suspect.

cconklin1 09-29-2013 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by deelseaker (Post 62195758)
A lot of people are jumping on this without understanding what they may be getting into. I will repost what I posted earlier today (and added to the thread's Wiki):

There is a lot of misunderstanding/misinformation in this thread. I wanted to chime in with some research I have done on this PC/deal:
  • Price and Configuration
    • This is a mistake. Either the model number or the description is wrong. An Amazon CSR won't know any better beyond what she can see in the same product description.
    • I have come across three different H530s configurations, none of which are available yet. Descriptions are conflicting everywhere. Even the 57321113 model that is listed as having an i5 at TD is listed with a Pentium elsewhere. 57321112 may be the model number for the i5 config. Bottom line: it's a mess.
    • When you do get the PC and it's not an i5, depending on your needs, it may still be a keeper if you can get Amazon to refund $50 or so.
  • Upgrades/Specifications/Slots/Motherboard
    • This is a slim case. It will take low profile cards only. The highest you can go with a low profile setup is an HD 7750. I would recommend sticking to a single slot card too.
    • The power supply will be either a 180W or a 240W unit. If the former, I would not recommend installing an HD 7750 card.
NOTE ABOUT THE INFORMATION IN THE MANUAL: Some information in the manual may be incorrect. For example, the motherboard layout diagram may very well be WRONG. This is a slim case that only has TWO slots in the back. So, why would it have four PCI-e slots? Therefore, the diagram should be considered suspect.

You seem to think anyone cares...It is either a price mistake and it ships and you get a great deal, or it gets cancelled, or they ship you an i3 and then later give you a discount, or they ship you an i3 and offer to take it back with zero out of cost to you. None of my listed options are a deal breaker for me and I would guess quite a few other people in this thread...

Reuchlin 09-29-2013 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by cconklin1 (Post 62195842)
You seem to think anyone cares...It is either a price mistake and it ships and you get a great deal, or it gets cancelled, or they ship you an i3 and then later give you a discount, or they ship you an i3 and offer to take it back with zero out of cost to you. None of my listed options are a deal breaker for me and I would guess quite a few other people in this thread...

well said Like any other potetial price mistake, buy at your own risk, and hope Amazon will provide a gift card, folks are taking these threads way to serious now days....

cconklin1 09-29-2013 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Reuchlin (Post 62196208)
well said Like any other potetial price mistake, buy at ZERO risk from Amazon, and hope Amazon will provide a gift card, folks are taking these threads way to serious now days....

fixed your post for you..

Reuchlin 09-29-2013 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by cconklin1 (Post 62196266)
fixed your post for you..

even better stated.. Thanks!!! LOL Amazon's got you covered!

misterv1 09-29-2013 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jacure (Post 62195478)
Mini does not even compare to this, lol. Go n buy that crap mini if it makes you feel netter about yourself.:woot:

ur comparing a new lenovo to last years mini. once it is refreshed it will also have haswell and an OS. +2gigs or ram isnt a big deal i would probably upgrade.

poconopaul 09-29-2013 05:40 PM

:mad:Dead

saltysailor 09-29-2013 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deelseaker (Post 62195758)
A lot of people are jumping on this without understanding what they may be getting into. I will repost what I posted earlier today (and added to the thread's Wiki):

There is a lot of misunderstanding/misinformation in this thread. I wanted to chime in with some research I have done on this PC/deal:
  • Price and Configuration
    • This is a mistake. Either the model number or the description is wrong. An [Amazon CSR won't know any better beyond what she can see in the same product description.
    • I have come across three different H530s configurations, none of which are available yet. Descriptions are conflicting everywhere. Even the 57321113 model that is listed as having an i5 at TD is listed with a Pentium elsewhere. 57321112 may be the model number for the i5 config. Bottom line: it's a mess.
    • When you do get the PC and it's not an i5, depending on your needs, it may still be a keeper if you can get Amazon to refund $50 or so.
  • Upgrades/Specifications/Slots/Motherboard
    • This is a slim case. It will take low profile cards only. The highest you can go with a low profile setup is an HD 7750. I would recommend sticking to a single slot card too.
    • The power supply will be either a 180W or a 240W unit. If the former, I would not recommend installing an HD 7750 card.
NOTE ABOUT THE INFORMATION IN THE MANUAL: Some information in the manual may be incorrect. For example, the motherboard layout diagram may very well be WRONG. This is a slim case that only has TWO slots in the back. So, why would it have four PCI-e slots? Therefore, the diagram should be considered suspect.

The Amazon rep that I chatted with did not simply read off the specs to me. He actually CALLED Lenovo support from the Netherlands to confirm that the CPU is i5-4440 (It was 0600 Eastern US time) while I waited.

Assuming that the model number is correct, Lenovo confirmed that it comes with an i5. Wrong model? Return is virtually effortless with Amazon.

For those who want to use HDTV as a second monitor wirelessly, this i5-4440 CPU supports Intel WiDi (Wireless Display). Also, I think Windows 8/8.1 supports Miracast.

strangerr 09-29-2013 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by krazymop (Post 62195618)
Quote:

Originally Posted by joshownsyouall (Post 62195614)
Nfl Sunday ticket, NBA league pass over here. Sometimes ill record like five games going on at once

Makes sense. I'd never have the time to watch them, but I can see skimming the highlights.

I can see where I can use 6 tuners. Three TV's watching live shows and three shows in recording. Or some similar combination. Very useful if you have roommates.

dictatortot 09-29-2013 06:53 PM

Would this be able to run at 2560x1440 over HDMI?

rollOver 09-29-2013 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by dictatortot (Post 62197826)
Would this be able to run at 2560x1440 over HDMI?

From intel support boards:
Quote:

Intel graphics does not support dual-link, therefore 1920x1200 is the maximum for DVI and HDMI, 2560x1440 is only possible with a displayport port. This is stated in every specification sheet.
This has been true with my NUC (same video chipset), thunderbolt port higher res (external adapter essentially) HDMI maxes at 1920x1200. That said, a very inexpensive half-height adapter and you can go much higher res.

flancrest 09-29-2013 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by saltysailor (Post 62197094)
The Amazon rep that I chatted with did not simply read off the specs to me. He actually CALLED Lenovo support from the Netherlands to confirm that the CPU is i5-4440 (It was 0600 Eastern US time) while I waited.

:mad:

Why didn't you stop them and explain the first rule of slickdeals is NO CALLING! Thanks for killing for the rest of us.

;)

BoldIntrepid 09-29-2013 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by flancrest (Post 62199622)
:mad:

Why didn't you stop them and explain the first rule of slickdeals is NO CALLING! Thanks for killing for the rest of us.

;)

lmao, calling lenovo about specs is different from calling about price...

Totally random thought, I saw this earlier but forgot to comment on it saying that I missed it... lol

MagicBlueMan 09-30-2013 01:16 AM

I bought this, but no idea what I'm going to do with it! Are people buying it to sell or use?

I'm still waiting on delivery of this deal, which I'm far more excited about:

http://slickdeals.net/permadeal/103042/groupon-toshiba-satellite-p75a7200-laptop-refurbished-core-i7-4700mq-3.4ghz-8gb-ddr3-750gb-hdd-17.3-1920x1080-led-6cell-windows-8

shytface 09-30-2013 02:22 AM

It's potentially an ok deal if it's as advertised and serviceable. That appears to be a standard TFX power supply which means it can be possibly upgraded with a better unit. The motherboard could very well be standard micro atx with the PSU simply mounted over the last 2 expansion slots. Can't really tell if that I/O shield is removable.

That's a lot of ifs, though. If you have a Fry's or a Microcenter near you you're probably better off just building your own i5 machine with a slim matx case from Newegg.

The best low profile video card is the Zotac ZT-61008-10M GTX 650. It's much faster than the GT 640 with 64-bit RAM, and should be faster than a 7750, too. Closer to 7770 performance. It's available at Newegg, it's just not listed as low-profile ready when you do a power search, but it does come with a low profile bracket.

rollOver 09-30-2013 05:58 AM

I will use mine to replace my venerable HTPC in my den, the HP machine I got on a slick deal here is starting to fail after many years of recording and viewing pleasure!

st_group 09-30-2013 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by rollOver (Post 62202704)
I will use mine to replace my venerable HTPC in my den, the HP machine I got on a slick deal here is starting to fail after many years of recording and viewing pleasure!

I am curious to know what you plan to do to set this up as a HTPC. I am planning to do the same, but do not know what to do, any suggestions? Would like to have at least a dual tuner to record 2 channels at the same time.

rollOver 09-30-2013 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by st_group (Post 62205768)
I am curious to know what you plan to do to set this up as a HTPC. I am planning to do the same, but do not know what to do, any suggestions? Would like to have at least a dual tuner to record 2 channels at the same time.

I have a half-height NTSC tuner card I will migrate from my existing htpc, in addition, I use HDhomeruns (I have two) for HD content over clear-QAM from my cable. Are you starting from scratch? If so, there are many USB stick tuners you should also consider.

It all depends on your inputs (cable, OTA) and how many channels you need to be able to record at the same time.

AGpennypacker 09-30-2013 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by rollOver (Post 62198126)
From intel support boards:

This has been true with my NUC (same video chipset), thunderbolt port higher res (external adapter essentially) HDMI maxes at 1920x1200. That said, a very inexpensive half-height adapter and you can go much higher res.

this is not true. it depends on the specific mobo. intel graphics doesn't care what output you use.

hdmi 1.4 can do 1440p ( and even UHD@30hz) but it just depends on the hdmi certification in the mobo. you would have to ask lenovo.

rollOver 09-30-2013 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by AGpennypacker (Post 62207220)
this is not true. it depends on the specific mobo. intel graphics doesn't care what output you use.

hdmi 1.4 can do 1440p ( and even UHD@30hz) but it just depends on the hdmi certification in the mobo. you would have to ask lenovo.

The question was not about the capabilities of HDMI, but those of the intel HD4000 over HDMI, so please point us to the information upon which you base your assertion before making statements about truth or falsehood. I have the chipset that uses HD4000 and have tested it, have you?

AGpennypacker 09-30-2013 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by rollOver (Post 62207552)
The question was not about the capabilities of HDMI, but those of the intel HD4000 over HDMI, so please point us to the information upon which you base your assertion before making statements about truth or falsehood. I have the chipset that uses HD4000 and have tested it, have you?

lol, yes i have used my u3014 over hdmi from my hd2500 integrated graphics. so let me get this straight? you think hd4000 is the problem, but you quoted someone who said it could do it over display port? that makes zero sense. you should also practice what you preach, where is your source? it looks like you quoted someone equally as unknowledgeable in a forum. not only that but the 4440 has hd4600.

maximum resolution for 1.4 hdmi 3840×2160p30 [wikipedia.org]

official intel response [intel.com]

i5 4440 = hd4600 [intel.com]


the problem is not all mobo makers use more than hdmi 1.2. add to that the cable needs to be at least 1.3 and finally the monitor does too. any breakdown in the chain and it won't work. that's what it's usually easier to get dvi or displayport to work. but it still stands, unless you ask lenovo what hdmi certification it uses we are guessing.

AGpennypacker 09-30-2013 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by dictatortot (Post 62197826)
Would this be able to run at 2560x1440 over HDMI?


possibly. contact lenovo for specifics.

rollOver 09-30-2013 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by AGpennypacker (Post 62209200)
the problem is not all mobo makers use more than hdmi 1.2. add to that the cable needs to be at least 1.3 and finally the monitor does too. any breakdown in the chain and it won't work. that's what it's usually easier to get dvi or displayport to work. but it still stands, unless you ask lenovo what hdmi certification it uses we are guessing.

You are correct, until there are specs on this system from Lenovo (whatever chip it is using) there is no way to know resolutions definitively. This being a "budget" system though, I would put money on the on-board HDMI being limited to 1080p, especially with the HDMI being marked "optional" we may not even get the port.

I do sincerely hope for all our sakes that I am wrong and Foxconn or whomever engineered this board gives us more.

samysarena 09-30-2013 08:17 PM

Whats going on guys? I did order yesterday. It seems to be a bummer?

The same link for the Post is now showing an Intel Pentium Processor?? Seriously its going to be no buy for me if that is so.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/...IEj3_0_0_0

Intel Pentium Dual-Core G3220 Processor 3.1 GHz (6 MB cache)


Processor 3.1 GHz Intel Pentium Dual-Core
RAM 6 GB DDR3
Hard Drive 1000 GB SATA
Wireless Type 802.11bgn
Number of USB 2.0 Ports 4
Number of USB 3.0 Ports 2

samysarena 09-30-2013 08:33 PM

For all those who are dreaming to get an i5 here's a heads up. Its an intel pentium processor!!

Kapidex 09-30-2013 08:40 PM

description has been changed now

Intel Pentium Dual-Core G3220 Processor 3.1 GHz (6 MB cache)

EmpyreanGrace 09-30-2013 08:53 PM

Lol, Amazon with the description change. If they don't ship out i5s, I imagine that all hell would loose. In the end, Amazon's just going to lose out shipping the PCs back & forth

misterv1 09-30-2013 09:01 PM

here we go....

gibsonbass 09-30-2013 09:16 PM

I smell gift cards.

samysarena 09-30-2013 09:45 PM

Well I opted not wait for what they would ship to me and just got over to customer care. In the end after long debate they offered me any i5 of my choice that is sold and shipped from Amazon and is in stock.

I ordered an inspirion 660 and customer care girl happily price matched it to $369 plus tax.

http://www.amazon.com/Dell-Inspir...uctDetails

How is this machine as compared to the original order? Did I do ok? How good is this machine if I want to upgrade. Just wondering if I should keep it or cancel order.

cs3000 09-30-2013 09:45 PM

whoa whoa whoa. amazon just pulled the ol' switch-a-roo!

Mithinco 09-30-2013 11:33 PM

Should we wait or talk to customer service? What to do?

PoisonWolf 10-01-2013 05:32 AM

Intel HD 2500? LOL...

My man, you're better off canceling the order altogether.

Quote:

Originally Posted by samysarena (Post 62220042)
Well I opted not wait for what they would ship to me and just got over to customer care. In the end after long debate they offered me any i5 of my choice that is sold and shipped from Amazon and is in stock.

I ordered an inspirion 660 and customer care girl happily price matched it to $369 plus tax.

http://www.amazon.com/Dell-Inspir...uctDetails

How is this machine as compared to the original order? Did I do ok? How good is this machine if I want to upgrade. Just wondering if I should keep it or cancel order.


ninapa 10-01-2013 05:48 AM

oh yeah..

gift card


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