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Old 09-17-2012, 08:22 AM
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Engadget Review for the Adapter that can be used with this (not included with this purchase)

Consumer Reports (June 2012) rated Ooma #1 over all other VOIP, Landline & Fiber Optic phone companies.

Looks like Ooma tax/fee recently increase to as high as $8.31+ a month in some area and look like keep increasing.
It is as high as $100+ a year now and raising. Note, Ooma still hasn't setup local tax for all cities/counties yet. As mentioned in Ooma own forum, they are slowly rolling out the local tax/fee in their system. There are MANY cities/counties in USA and it takes time to set it up.

Some of the more expensive zipcode for taxes and fee are... Note, Ooma hasn't setup local tax for all cities/counties yet (think about how many cities/counties in US). With time, many zipcode price will increase to this level.....
60043, $8.31 a month (10/11/2012) increased to $8.52 (12/6/2012)
60603, $7.81 a month (10/11/2012) increased to $8.05 (12/6/2012)
20853, $6.9 a month (back in 9/26/2012) increased to $6.94 (10/11/2012)
94115/94118, etc <--- $6.59 (9/26/2012), $6.63 (10/11/2012) increased to $6.90 (12/6/2012)
95138/95119/95123, etc <--- $5.51
30115 - only $3.72 (9/26/2012) increased to $3.76 (10/11/2012), so varies a lot


They are becoming landline now in term of fee/taxes increase. Pretty much can increase anytime without warning.

Q. Aren't those fees mostly federal/state fees/taxes that would be raising any landline by the same amount too?

A. They include fee to maintain the server and other expenses to collect and do accounting/calculation for the tax/fee. I assume including expenses for electricity, CSR to answer phone call related to tax/fee, etc.


My tax amount (in California) has not increased so I doubt they increased any fees associated with the tax collection. Looks like it is just a tax increase you are seeing. Ooma can't control that. <--- NOT correct. San Francisco fee is already increased to $6.5 a month while the city right next to SF, some is still $3.7 (not include city 911 yet) and some is almost $6. There are many cities in USA and it takes time to set all of them up.

Look up the amount you'll pay monthly here: https://go.ooma.com/tax_calculator

If you are adding Premier, Vonage works out cheaper (For NEW customers only). The $9.99 only has $3-$4 a month maximum and includes many features. You also do not have to pay for the box and replacements are $15 of ebay http://lp.vonage.com/basic_1l?LPID=basictalk

What are the advantages/disadvantages to other devices (such as Obi, SPAs with Asterisk, or MJ/NetTalk) that provide VOIP?
(+Obi) - Device is $50, no charge for service since the service is provided over Google Talk. Three years = $50 if google talk remains free
(+SPA/Asterisk) - Installation is $50 (SPA), you buy a DID/DOD through a competitive service for $5-ish a month. Three years $170.
(+MJ/NetTalk) - first year is less than $70, second year and on is less than $30. Three years = $130

Note that no VOIP service is as lag free as a landline currently. With OOMA your lag will depend on its servers and your geographic location to them. The lag can be twice that of a cell phone depending on location.

OBi = SIP device which can signup for E911 with Voip provider like Callcentric

For people that need to pay $6+ monthly fee for Ooma, there is really not much justification using $120 Ooma device (that only work with Ooma) over $40~$50 Obi (which work with all SIP Voip providers) unless you don't know how to follow simple instruction to setup Obi and you don't know anyone that can follow instruction to help setup Obi.

For Obi, even if you want something else other than (or in additional to) GV like need to signup for E911, etc, there are so many good quality reasonable price Voip providers that work with Obi.

http://pbxinaflash.com/vitelity/ (Read this thread in DSLReports for discussion about Vitelity quality [broadbandreports.com]
http://www.callcentric.com/ <--- many SDers and other website recommend this. Callcentric currently offer FREE NY phone number with free unlimited incoming calls
http://www.voip.ms/ <--- many SDers and other websites recommend this
flowroute [flowroute.com]
For free incoming call, you can also use IpKall. It works with Callcentric to provide free local number in Washington State and free incoming call.
http://www.ipkall.com/
Another service offer free incoming phone number
http://www.sipgate.com/


Here are some of the Voip that offer very low price International Calls
Onesuite and localphone offer a lot of local access number so can use it without Voip device. Those two also offer international local access number which you can use outside US. Check their website for more info.
http://www.onesuite.com (Onesuite has been around for 10+ years and consistently great quality)
http://www.localphone.com

http://www.callwithus.com/
http://www.future-nine.com/

All of those can setup with Obi and other SIP devices.

While for Ooma, there is no resell value for the device itself (because of reactivation fee for used device) but Obi you can easily sell it if you decide you don't want it.

If your Ooma device break after warranty, you will need to pay another $150+ if there is no deal like this. But OBi and other ATA device is $40 or even cheaper so easily replaceable and you are not stuck with a proprietary device.

Straight from Obi's site: 911 warning [obihai.com]

Last edited by MozartA; 12-06-2012 at 04:23 PM.. Reason: Clarity on Obi 911