Quote from GaviH :Looking to get a new general family camera. Would you recommend a t4i refurb at that price? Which lense? Kit or no kit?
based on your questions, just get the T4i kit and start learning from there. You may consider getting it new from eBay. $595+tax for a solid refurb vs $648 new with Canon warranty.
Which kit would you recommend? 18-55 or 18-135. Thanks!