Vista Blocked Programs at Startup- Fix Once and for All

[felixthecat123]

I have the VISTA HOME Premium and like the VISTA Basic I do not have Security Policy Control on my non-VISTA Apps. If you have Windows Vista Ultimate then you do. So here is a way too once and for all to fix that VISTA tray BLOCKED APP alert that is quite annoying in that you are alerted with every bootup that your app is blocked and you must allow the app to run each time by giving VISTA permission blessing. Boo on that. So here is the fix:

Remove the startup app that is offending by:

Start----Run----and type in msconfig.exe

Go to STARTUP Tab and remove the app that is blocked by Vista noting on a sheet of paper where the program is run from. If the program app is run from the startup menu, then just go to Start---All Program Files---Startup Folder and remove the app there.

After removing the app, create a app Task using the Task Schedule with full VISTA blessed permission by following the instructions below:

1. Launch the Task Scheduler
Example: Start Menu → All Programs → Accessories → System Tools

2. From the Actions panel on the right, select Create Task...
a. Give the app a name of your choice in the "Name Section"

3. Go to the Security Options on the General tab
a. Select an user account with administrative privileges
b. Select the radio button Run only when user is logged on
c. Check the box Run with highest privileges

4.Go to the Triggers tab and click New...
a. In Begin the task, select At log on
b. In the Settings options, select All users
c. In the Advanced Settings options, check the box Enabled
d. Click OK to close the dialog

5. Go to the Actions tab and click New...
a. For Action, select Start a program
b. In the Settings options, browse for the Program/Script you want to execute on
startup
c. Click OK to close the dialog

6. Go to the Settings tab
a. Check the box Run task as soon as possible after a scheduled start is missed
b. Uncheck the box Stop the task if it runs longer than

7. Make any other desired settings

8. Click OK to save and close the task properties


What this will now accomplish is that once and for all your non-VISTA apps will run at windows startup with full permission and therefore the blocked programs alert on the bottom right tray of the desktop will disappear for ever (Vista is happy).

NOTE: If you have an app that reappears in the STARTUP in MSCONFIG...you will need to uncheck in the application itself to stop running at startup. VISTA will give that blocked message if you don't stop it from running at startup as a non-vista app. What our aim is to stop the program from loading at startup and run the program through the TASK Scheduler with full Vista blessing ( the workaround).

[Cartier]

doesnt it just say 'always/never do this?' and have a checkbox you can fiddle with?

what you just typed is like, something people that are new to vista should file under 'last resort' i'm thinkin. there's ALOT of room for people to do something wrong in those directions.

congrats on your workaround, but, goodness, there must have been an easier way to do whatever you were describing.

I apologize if this message sounds like anything other than a 'woah, that looked harder than it had to be' message.

[Flamer]

Nope, this appears to be the best way to set up applications to run on start up without having Vista prompt you every time...

I agree, it should be simpler, but its not. Nice work Felix.

[mominsky]

i have ultimate, but havent played around enough to find an easy fix myself....this looks like it would work though

[rseiler]

Does anyone know which security policy in Ultimate (and probably Business, too) would be applicable to this problem? I have my doubts that one even exists, since if it did it would be well known by now.

The warning icon is infuriating, as its help suggests that there is a way to accomplish this right there in Defender, but nothing (short of the above workaround) seems to ever make it go away. This is basically confirmed in the technote article [microsoft.com], with all three of the "resolutions" not really resolving anything. There has to be a better way.

For those who don't like/want Defender, I thought going into Defender and turning off its automated functions and then, particularly, going into Services and disabling its service (you'd also want to take it out of startup with Msconfig) would probably do the trick, but it doesn't.

How could disabling Defender's service not take out Defender?

Referring article:
http://vistasupport.mvps.org/run_...ograms.htm

[felixthecat123]

Post subject: Re: Window's Vista Defender's annoying message at task Manager [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

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Run MSCONFIG and on the BOOT tab select the box that says make all boot
options permanent and the message will go away

"Dino+" <Dino RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:9D6B5FFB-4956-4AE7-BDB2-D21FB6D305D0@microsoft.com...
> How in the world do you TURN OFF this annoying Defender's messaging saying
> that it has blocked start up programs etc . . .
>
> thanks to fellow Vista users






Accessing Vista Ultimate/Business Security Control Policy

http://www.mydigitallife.info/200...ows-vista/

[rseiler]

felixthecat123, that article shows you how to get into group policy, sure, but the article is about disabling UAC, which is another subject. A post above suggested that there's a way to affect the subject of this thread via policy (short of simply disabling UAC), and I've yet to confirm that anywhere. I highly doubt it exists, since it would be widely known.

The quote that you gave originated here [google.com], and includes a very interesting first post. A workaround might be using a batch file or a manifest file. I'll have to try that, though it sounds too good to be true. [Update: the manifest idea is too good to be true, since it's something incorporated into the program when it's being built, not after the fact.]

As for the last post in that thread ("make all boot options permanent" in MSCONFIG), which you quoted, he probably misunderstood the question and thought the thread was about MSCONFIG's nagging, which is an entirely separate thing.

[felixthecat123]

Quote from rseiler : Does anyone know which security policy in Ultimate (and probably Business, too) would be applicable to this problem? I have my doubts that one even exists, since if it did it would be well known by now. The warning icon is infuriating, as its help suggests that there is a way to accomplish this right there in Defender, but nothing (short of the above workaround) seems to ever make it go away. This is basically confirmed in the technote article [microsoft.com], with all three of the "resolutions" not really resolving anything. There has to be a better way. For those who don't like/want Defender, I thought going into Defender and turning off its automated functions and then, particularly, going into Services and disabling its service (you'd also want to take it out of startup with Msconfig) would probably do the trick, but it doesn't. How could disabling Defender's service not take out Defender? Referring article: http://vistasupport.mvps.org/run_...ograms.htm

My original article states that in Vista Home and Basic you could deactivate the "Windows has blocked some startup programs" balloon by doing a run around procedure. Here is the non-run around procedure if you have Vista Ultimate or Vista Business:

Start->Run and type secpol.msc. Go to Local Policies->Security Policy and then disable the last 6 options in the side window to the right. That should do it.

[rseiler]

Quote from felixthecat123 : My original article states that in Vista Home and Basic you could deactivate the "Windows has blocked some startup programs" balloon by doing a run around procedure. Here is the non-run around procedure if you have Vista Ultimate or Vista Business: Start->Run and type secpol.msc. Go to Local Policies->Security Policy and then disable the last 6 options in the side window to the right. That should do it.

You must mean "Security Options" (Security Policy doesn't exist), and what you're doing there is disabling UAC, which can be done in any version of Vista in the networking section of the main interface. As mentioned above, disabling UAC does sidestep the problem, but I was hoping for something short of that.

[pc459]

Sorry, I just skipped to the bottom because what I read was so redicllas coud read no further.

Simply right click on the icon in the task bar, the list box has some options. Right above help, I forget exactly what it says because mine doesn’t pop up any more. Any ways you’ll get the nag screen that allows you to do stuff (unless you have disabled that too), then the basic pop up that XP used to give you after start up. Bla Bla start up items
JUST CHECK THE BOX MAN,,..,,..,youll never see that again unless you msconfig again

[rseiler]

Quote from pc459 : Sorry, I just skipped to the bottom because what I read was so redicllas coud read no further. Simply right click on the icon in the task bar, the list box has some options. Right above help, I forget exactly what it says because mine doesn’t pop up any more. Any ways you’ll get the nag screen that allows you to do stuff (unless you have disabled that too), then the basic pop up that XP used to give you after start up. Bla Bla start up items JUST CHECK THE BOX MAN,,..,,..,youll never see that again unless you msconfig again

You probably should have read the thread. Obviously.

This isn't about the warnings you get from MSconfig for having used that program. This is about attempting to run programs on startup which require administrative privileges, which is unrelated.

[rseiler]

Someone wrote a program that automates for you what's mentioned in the top post. There's also a nice explanation on this page describing why Vista made this process necessary.

http://www.jimmah.com/vista/Appli...ogram.aspx

Here's a screenshot:
http://img512.imageshack.us/img51...tupyq4.png

[traveling]

thanks for you , felixthecat123. I want to know the Vista program what it has to use?

[caryyy]

Windows Defender doesn't like startup items that are in the %username%\startup folder. Take the entry out of the startup folder and create a registry entry (string) in HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Current Version\Run
Name the entry appropriately, and give it the exact path with any switches that might apply. Windows Defender will not block it at startup.

Quote from felixthecat123 : I have the VISTA HOME Premium and like the VISTA Basic I do not have Security Policy Control on my non-VISTA Apps. If you have Windows Vista Ultimate then you do. So here is a way too once and for all to fix that VISTA tray BLOCKED APP alert that is quite annoying in that you are alerted with every bootup that your app is blocked and you must allow the app to run each time by giving VISTA permission blessing. Boo on that. So here is the fix: Remove the startup app that is offending by: Start----Run----and type in msconfig.exe Go to STARTUP Tab and remove the app that is blocked by Vista noting on a sheet of paper where the program is run from. If the program app is run from the startup menu, then just go to Start---All Program Files---Startup Folder and remove the app there. After removing the app, create a app Task using the Task Schedule with full VISTA blessed permission by following the instructions below: 1. Launch the Task Scheduler Example: Start Menu → All Programs → Accessories → System Tools 2. From the Actions panel on the right, select Create Task... a. Give the app a name of your choice in the "Name Section" 3. Go to the Security Options on the General tab a. Select an user account with administrative privileges b. Select the radio button Run only when user is logged on c. Check the box Run with highest privileges 4.Go to the Triggers tab and click New... a. In Begin the task, select At log on b. In the Settings options, select All users c. In the Advanced Settings options, check the box Enabled d. Click OK to close the dialog 5. Go to the Actions tab and click New... a. For Action, select Start a program b. In the Settings options, browse for the Program/Script you want to execute on startup c. Click OK to close the dialog 6. Go to the Settings tab a. Check the box Run task as soon as possible after a scheduled start is missed b. Uncheck the box Stop the task if it runs longer than 7. Make any other desired settings 8. Click OK to save and close the task properties What this will now accomplish is that once and for all your non-VISTA apps will run at windows startup with full permission and therefore the blocked programs alert on the bottom right tray of the desktop will disappear for ever (Vista is happy). NOTE: If you have an app that reappears in the STARTUP in MSCONFIG...you will need to uncheck in the application itself to stop running at startup. VISTA will give that blocked message if you don't stop it from running at startup as a non-vista app. What our aim is to stop the program from loading at startup and run the program through the TASK Scheduler with full Vista blessing ( the workaround).