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  • Old 09-13-2009, 01:19 PM #46
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    What are you talking about? MLK was a community priest and and not a prime time "NEWS" network. How can you compare MLK to Glenn Beck? They are worlds apart in every aspect. MLK didn't use fear mongering to gain support. He spread hope. Glenn beck uses fear every single day. There's rarely a day on his show that he claims to be scared of the federal government. They are worlds apart in every aspect. That's got to be the worst analogy ever...

    It's easy to compare. At minimum, all of the ones I listed had organzations pushing and promoting the rallies or marches or at least they came up with the idea and others took it from there.

    The "content" of their protests isn't the issue. You raised the question about whether or not they were "grass roots".

    The 9/12 was just as much a "grass roots" protest as was the Civil Rights march on Washington.
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    Million Man March vs. 9-12 March Hmmmm
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    Old 09-13-2009, 01:24 PM #48
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    Quote from digitalhandle View Post :
    Thanks. As that video says multiple times, "tens of thousands."

    Why aren't others on the right on this board arguing to have the "up to two million" thread title fixed?
    Actually, the video says "They came BY THE tens of thousands", not just "tens of thousands". There is a difference.
     
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    Million Man March vs. 9-12 March Hmmmm
    Yep, and the Park Service estimated the Million Man March crowd at 400,000. The tea-bag crowd is considerably smaller.

    Either way, way less than the deceptive two million number you leave up.
     
    Old 09-13-2009, 01:27 PM #50
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    More video of the "tens of thousands" /sarcasm

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VMXz6xGeqc
     
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    Quote from Demosthenes9 View Post :
    Actually, the video says "They came BY THE tens of thousands", not just "tens of thousands". There is a difference.
    Either way, way less than the deceptive two million number affixed to this thread.

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    More video of the "tens of thousands" /sarcasm

    http ://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VMXz6xGeqc
    Why are you being sarcastic?
     
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    Where was/is the Democratic Congress since 2007 that could have put a stop to runaway spending under Bush and NOW the Messiah?
    FAIL: The Bush deficit was created between 2000 and 2006 when the Republicans had majority control of the Congress.

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    Why shouldn't they call out Obama's irresponsibility now?
    Because Obama is trying to fix the Bush mess. If they disagree with his fixes, they should focus on providing alternatives rather than protesting.
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    Quote from Demosthenes9 View Post :
    It's easy to compare. At minimum, all of the ones I listed had organzations pushing and promoting the rallies or marches or at least they came up with the idea and others took it from there.

    The "content" of their protests isn't the issue. You raised the question about whether or not they were "grass roots".

    The 9/12 was just as much a "grass roots" protest as was the Civil Rights march on Washington.
    Glenn Beck started the 9/12 movement. It's hardly grass roots when your air time is during prime time America. MLK had nothing and literally had to speak at community events.
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    Old 09-13-2009, 02:18 PM #54
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    Glenn Beck started the 9/12 movement. It's hardly grass roots when your air time is during prime time America. MLK had nothing and literally had to speak at community events.
    MLK had the Southern Leadership Conference, the NAACP and many other organizations.

    BTW, do you even know what "Grass roots" means ?
     
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    MLK had the Southern Leadership Conference, the NAACP and many other organizations.

    BTW, do you even know what "Grass roots" means ?

    http://dictionary.reference.com/b...rass+roots
    grass roots 
    the common or ordinary people, esp. as contrasted with the leadership or elite of a political party, social organization, etc.; the rank and file.

    Glenn Beck is grass roots?
     
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    FAIL: The Bush deficit was created between 2000 and 2006 when the Republicans had majority control of the Congress.
    Where were these tea-parties when Bush was President? Hmmm..... So Obama is President for 8 months and he's the problem? That is freaken funny. I guess Bush gets a pass because he was a "conservative".

    I do not like the fact that Obama has greatly increased the deficit but I understand that when you're on the verge of another great depression the deficit is the LAST thing that you worry about. The government has to step in because to wait for the economy to correct itself would be disastrous.
     
    Old 09-13-2009, 02:41 PM #57
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    This is what happens when you fail at American history:

    Glenn Beck's '9-12' logo based on communist and socialist designs
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    Unity and resistance are what the fist represented in 1917, when it was first employed by the Industrial Workers of the World, a union organization founded by socialists. And in the 1940s, when it stood for various nations' communist party organizations.

    Fist Progressive Labor Party That's also what it meant when it was revived in the 1960s, appearing as a symbol for the SDS, as well as anti-war and feminist movements. It was the basis for the black-power salute given by John Carlos and Tommie Smith at the 1968 Mexico City Olympics. And today, it's the symbol for the Progressive Labor Party (pictured), a political outfit whose website says it "fights to smash capitalism."

    Turnout for the 9-12 Project's Saturday march on Washington was a bust; 30,000 protesters signed up in advance (MSNBC reporter David Shuster tweeted that D.C. park police called that figure "generous"). But even if three times that many actually showed up, the number would fall far short of the hundreds of thousands (and even millions) claimed to be planning to attend. Even in that reduced crowd, however, surely someone recognized how odd the right-wing gathering's left-wing logo was.

    Maybe Beck will explain. Sort of.


    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/c...signs.html

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    Could there be a Beck-Weathermen connection? What was Gennie doing in the late 60s? Being 4 years old in 1968 is NOT an excuse for dodging the Vietnam War!!!
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    But almost everyone there [oliverwillis.com] appeared to be white [twitter.com]?
    Based on the crowd, future of GOP is a 50+ white couple. Oh wait that's the present of the GOP
     
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    I was at this thing and I was also at Obama's inauguration and I can say that this 9/12 protest did not even begin to approach the crowds of the inauguration.

    A few tens of thousands, maybe. I was actually flying my kite with plenty of space around me on the mall in front of the Capitol alongside a group playing touch football with no problems.

    I did see one guy get hassled and possibly arrested by park police because he was carrying a gun.
     
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