Pioneer VSX-1019AH 7.1 Channel A/V Receiver $383

[twosee]

Quote from FVBuddy : This deal's dead, man. $450 + $30 Shipping.

Antonline's website has it for the same price, charges $6 more for shipping, but no tax for CA. Total $389.10. My order just went through but don't know if they'll cancel later.

http://www.antonline.com/p_Pionee...743710.htm

[The Kev Master]

Quote from grotendick : How is that?

The Kev Master knows that popmasina is referring to the use of an external HDMI switch but the ones that most SDers would buy is barely adequate at best but solves the problem.

The Kev Master runs everything via HDMI for video only and then runs a digital cable for the audio only, so in this instance using a HDMI switch would be fine.

[drdiaboloco]

Quote from scooterp7 : Alrighty then!! Well that's helpful. I can get 10w of power into a 10,000W speaker (bet that just sounds totally awesome and maybe I could have saved 10's of $1000's and bought 50W speakers to match my 10W amp) and I can drive a 10W speaker with maybe 25W (ah hell let's get crazy and say 50W) of power from a 10,000W amp. This is definitely the best audio set up philosophy I've ever heard. Prolly explains why absolutely everyone is doin' it.

Are you serious, or are you just trying to stir things up?

What a speaker can HANDLE and how much it needs to run it well are two completely different things. Rasterman was spot on and your argument makes no sense. Just to give one example, the Bose 901's are known for having outrageous power handling capabilities, some being run with 1000wpc amps, and can easily handle something in the 500w range... Yet most people who own them don't have that sort of gear and run them just fine on 100w. I knew a fellow in college who had 901's and could produce a staggering amount of clean sound powering them from a mundane 75wpc stereo receiver (fairly powerful for the time, but 'mundane' in today's context).

Perhaps you need to be more concerned with the MINIMUM amplifier power required to run speakers, not the maximum. Furthermore, the sensitivity and the ohm rating needs to be taken into account... The Klipschorn, for instance, is rated at 100w maximum (400w peak), but as an 8ohm speaker with a sensitivity well over 100dB can be driven easily, and quite loudly, by a 30wpc stereo receiver. Ask me how I know this.

[grotendick]

Quote from The Kev Master : The Kev Master knows that popmasina is referring to the use of an external HDMI switch but the ones that most SDers would buy is barely adequate at best but solves the problem. The Kev Master runs everything via HDMI for video only and then runs a digital cable for the audio only, so in this instance using a HDMI switch would be fine.

I am replacing a 5 year old onkyo... with a 7.1 setup, i never liked the loudness from it.. Maybe it was the speakers? or, maybe it was the reciever? Would this pioneer be better than the onkyo with 6 hdmi ...

I am looking at these 3
Onkyo HT-RC160
Onkyo TX-SR607
and this pioneer?

[ceekay84]

Quote from grotendick : I am replacing a 5 year old onkyo... with a 7.1 setup, i never liked the loudness from it.. Maybe it was the speakers? or, maybe it was the reciever? Would this pioneer be better than the onkyo with 6 hdmi ... I am looking at these 3 Onkyo HT-RC160 Onkyo TX-SR607 and this pioneer?

The Pioneer is incredibly versatile and can pretty much play anything you throw at it and decode all the audio/video formats that are available. I'm still on a 5.1 system and the Denon AVR1610/590 serves me well. If I was looking into a 7.1 receiver, the VSX1019 is on top of my list.

[scooterp7]

Quote from drdiaboloco : Are you serious, Snip

I was never for one freakin' second talking about minimums. I was talking about MAXIMUMS. For god's sake it is implicit in the context WHEN TALKING ABOUT AMPS. And just since you uttered the word Bose, I summarily dismiss from my conscious mind everything you said.

I don't give a flying phuck if you can drive 801's (not bose crap, B&W) with an ipod or a transistor radio. It sure as hell won't sound the same as driving them with a Classe amp. The context was amps and pre-outs ---- MAXIMUM POWER----- READ MY PREVIOUS POSTS. The one post you single out was a response to someone with juvenile understanding of high fidelity. But you and I have gone around before and I will not reply to any of your posts in the future.

[fl370]

Is anybody else worried about the bad reviews of antonline on resellerratings.com? Or am I the only one?

[The Kev Master]

Quote from fl370 : Is anybody else worried about the bad reviews of antonline on resellerratings.com? Or am I the only one?

The Kev Master would say just make sure you use a credit card and better if one gives you an extended warranty. He has bought stuff from them and they've been alright but that was computer ram, which was like $20.

The Kev Master thinks people here need to chill and read this thread:

http://slickdeals.net/forums/show...?t=1630121

[drdiaboloco]

Quote from scooterp7 : I was never for one freakin' second talking about minimums. I was talking about MAXIMUMS. For god's sake it is implicit in the context WHEN TALKING ABOUT AMPS. <SNIP>

I KNOW you weren't talking about minimums, which part of my statement "Perhaps you need to be more concerned with the MINIMUM amplifier power" doesn't compute? Read it again, since you are so put off by the Bose comment... Which was merely for reference and you're being a silly goose to ignore it in the context given.

[grotendick]

I ordered one the 1080p upconversion is supposed to better than most recievers... It comes with an mp3 dock and has a GUI as well . The onkyo's had more HDMI's but none of the other features!

[aerodynamics]

Quote from grotendick : Would this pioneer be better than the onkyo with 6 hdmi ...

From what I've read in numerous forums, the Onkyos get really hot. And that's one of the reasons I went with Pioneer. The 1019-up models all have the same features as any other receiver in its price range, if not more. The biggest draw for me was Pioneer's out-the-box iPod functionality. Most other brands require that you pay $100 for an optional dock. Considering 95% of my music is played through an iPod, this was a big deal for me.

[scooterp7]

Quote from drdiaboloco : I KNOW you weren't talking about minimums, which part of my statement "Perhaps you need to be more concerned with the MINIMUM amplifier power" doesn't compute? Read it again, since you are so put off by the Bose comment... Which was merely for reference and you're being a silly goose to ignore it in the context given.

I really don't care about minimums period. But if I were so inclined I would be looking at speaker efficiencies (efficiency rating) first and foremost. But since I have power (did you know as a clinical definition that W=Power) out the wazoo, I look for speakers that can handle it and do so with great DETAIL .

[ashdatank]

having trouble finding this information, but can someone with the receiver specify how much lip sync error (milliseconds) can this receiver be adjusted for? is it for 100 ms only or 200ms?

[barebones]

Quote from aerodynamics : From what I've read in numerous forums, the Onkyos get really hot. And that's one of the reasons I went with Pioneer. The 1019-up models all have the same features as any other receiver in its price range, if not more. The biggest draw for me was Pioneer's out-the-box iPod functionality. Most other brands require that you pay $100 for an optional dock. Considering 95% of my music is played through an iPod, this was a big deal for me.

I've been doing some self-internet research for a couple weeks and just missed the last deal on these. I looked at a lot of different sites and this 1019 was CNET's editor pick of the year on MID range receivers, which is what i'm looking for. I don't think you can find the bells and whistles for this money with any other product. I heard too many "you could fry an egg on my onkyo" on several threads which is why i decided on the Pioneer. I was actually going to wait for the 919 to go on sale and get in stock, but had to buy this today with the slick deal presented.

[HokiePS7]

Quote from barebones : I've been doing some self-internet research for a couple weeks and just missed the last deal on these. I looked at a lot of different sites and this 1019 was CNET's editor pick of the year on MID range receivers, which is what i'm looking for. I don't think you can find the bells and whistles for this money with any other product. I heard too many "you could fry an egg on my onkyo" on several threads which is why i decided on the Pioneer. I was actually going to wait for the 919 to go on sale and get in stock, but had to buy this today with the slick deal presented.

Yeah I don't think this really qualifies as a "mid-range" receiver, but it's probably the best bang for the buck receiver in the sub-$500 price range.

I'm also LMAO at the dude that referenced Bose in making a point.