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    Facebook (Those released by vyrlmkt) Coupon Discussion thread *PLEASE READ THE RULES BEFORE POSTING* *RULES UPDATED 08-25-08*
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    Welcome ot the facebook coupon discussion thread. This thread will be used to discuss the facebook coupons based on news updates. Due to the sensitive and volatile nature of the thread, it will be monitored closely by the moderators. For this particular thread, we will have the following rules to ensure orderly conduct and a beneficial discussion:

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    5. (Updated 08-25-08) Any talk about continuing to use these coupons or planning to use these coupons at your store and/or retailer will result in a warning for illegal activity. Too many places have already started to ban IP coupons and already CVS stores in a certain county have issued a ban of all IP coupons. Continuing to talk about using these coupons will not help the situation and will make us all look bad and can ruin IP coupons for everyone else.

    Off topic, unruly, or otherwise inflammatory posts do nothing but hurt the community so lets try to avoid it! We hope you understand that these rules are in place to create a welcoming, fair, and condusive environment so that we can all share appropriately.
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    **IMPORTANT UPDATE as of 7:16 PM EDT on 08/19/08 REGARDING THE FACEBOOK COUPONS**

    From
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    1. "An update: My local Albertsons received an email from vyrlmkt today stating the coupons are fraudulent and they will not be redeeming the coupons. It is obvious the company has changed their story since yesterday when they had informed Albertson's that all coupons were ligitimate and would be redeemed."

    2. "
    Another update. When a retailer calls the vyrlmrkt line (408-340-7120) they now get a message that all coupons are fraudulent because of someone hacking into their system. They basically read the same message that they published on the internet (FB). They still claim you can use them if you printed them off through FB.

    What a mess. My Albertsons told me I could come and redeem them still, but at this point I do not want them to be out of the money."


    3. "
    vyrlmkt called me back. Absolutely incredible stuff. She stammerd, stuttered, apologized, but kept accusing people of hacking into their sytem.

    She told me they are in the process of getting an email out to ALL retailers explaining the situation. I asked her what they planned on doing for the people who printed off their coupons ligitimately. She told me they can continue to use them, but the stores would be alerted all the same that most coupons were in fact fraudulent, and for them (the stores) to figure out which ones are and which ones are not.

    She said she felt badly that people are getting accused of fraud, that people are embarrassed at their local stores, that a few people had been arrested, but emphasized that is was/is not their fault. It is all the fault of those who printed these coupons in high quantities and/or off PDF files. She compared it to people sneaking into her house and taking all her art without being invited to do so (sigh).

    Anyway, her name is Leslie Leonetti, Director of Business Development."


    4. "
    Just received a call from Albertsons again too (2 seconds ago). I know the manager well there, and he read me an email from their corporate office that included parts of an email by vrlmkt. It states that the coupons are fraudulent and will not be redeemed, and that if stores accept them, they will not get their money back from the coupons."

    I got the uneasy feeling my own little Albertsons suspected I was being 'fraudulent' myself.

    How Embarassing."
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    From Amit19:

    http://www.facebook.com/topic.php...topic=5203

    Thank for your support and enthusiasm, the response has been overwhelmingly positive. Our guiding principle is to help you stretch your household budget as far as possible, particularly in these challenging economic times. Please continue to help us with this goal as we address the current unfortunate situation. As many of you may have heard, our system was breeched resulting in the illegal spreading of fraudulent copies of our coupons via email or PDF. We are extremely saddened by this occurrence and understand the frustration that many of you feel, as we have families and children of our own.

    That said, it has been several days since the print limits of our offers were reached. Unfortunately copies of the coupons are still being illegally circulated on the Internet, making it impossible to determine which are legitimate and which are not. Each of our coupons clearly states that “offer void if altered or copied”.

    Our teams are working diligently to resolve all issues so we can continue bringing you quality offers.

    It is an unfortunate but sad reality; however, in order to protect our retailers and all of you responsible coupon users, all coupons will now be considered invalid copies. We are working with all industry players and word is going out to the retailers to not accept them.

    The abuse by the few has lead to this decision which sadly affects the many.

    Despite this setback, the overall result of our initial launch has been extremely successful. We are currently working with manufacturers and sponsors to bring you a wider range of offers based largely on the products that you told us you wanted to see.


    This post has a statement from Coupon Information Corporation (CIC) and Association of Coupon Professionals (ACP) regarding "vyrl mkt" and their actions.


    LINK to the discussions on Facebook.

    Link To more Facebook Wall Discussions.

    When you become aware of new news stories about this, please post them here so that they are easy to find without searching through the thread:

    Link to shuriken's letter Also includes screen shots of the application on facebook of coupons offered on Friday.

    iReport story

    Associated Content story


    CBS channel 5 story (text) CBS channel 5 Video can be found in here.

    Seattle Times Article #1

    Pictures of Seattle Times story on Seattle Times Front Page

    KOMO 4 News - Seattle

    UPI Version of Seattle Times Article (Revised, but still misleading)

    KOMO 4 News - Seattle (CACHE, other might not work)

    KOMO 4 News - Seattle Transcript (for back-up purposes)

    here is the follow-up seattle times article (page A8, not cover today)

    Promo Magazine -- September 4th Article

    Supermarket News -- September 3rd Article

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    Old 08-19-2008, 01:03 PM #3
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    Gotta ask: anyone see new coupons? I don't.
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    Old 08-19-2008, 01:09 PM #4
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    I just wanted to clarify a misconception I've read in a few posts, both here and at HCW. Facebook was neither issued any statements, nor are they connected with the development and distribution of this application. As it says on the Check It Out page itself "This application was not developed by Facebook."

    Facebook has many application that users can add to their accounts, many of which are developed independently by users or companies.

    Edited to add:
    Here is a link [facebook.com] to the Facebook ToS for applications. I think that Check It Out may be violating a few of their rules; however, I'm not sure. One clause that I think may have been overlooked is: "If your application allows file-sharing, you must adopt and implement an acceptable copyright policy, register an agent with the Copyright Office, and take some other steps, as outlined in the Facebook Platform Developer Copyright Information."
    Given P&G's response to the coupons in general, I wonder if they violated any copyright laws.

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    Old 08-19-2008, 01:12 PM #5
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    Old 08-19-2008, 01:13 PM #6
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    Quote from Stephica View Post :
    I just wanted to clarify a misconception I've read in a few posts, both here and at HCW. Facebook was neither issued any statements, nor are they connected with the development and distribution of this application. As it says on the Check It Out page itself "This application was not developed by Facebook."

    Facebook has many application that users can add to their accounts, many of which are developed independently by users or companies.
    Good point made, hopefully everyone does realize that what was meant by Facebook was the company that made the Check it Out app and the marketing company behind it.

    Facebook would be the server like myspace.
     
    Old 08-19-2008, 01:24 PM #7
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    Discussion boards for Check it Out Application

    If any user is willing to see what's discussion is going on at facebook.

    Here are various discussion boards which are associated with this coupon application. So everyone can follow latest updates.

    Important Note to all Check It Out users
    : http://www.facebook.com/topic.php...topic=5199

    What savings do YOU want to see?
    : http://www.facebook.com/topic.php...topic=5177

    and

    Wall : http://www.facebook.com/wall.php?id=9184429175

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    Old 08-19-2008, 01:24 PM #8
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    I read about this very late. Are all the FB coupons "fraudulent"? Can we use the lower-valued FB coupons? I printed two. They are $0.50 off Orbit and $0.50 off Chapstick.
     
    Old 08-19-2008, 01:24 PM #9
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    Quote from Stephica View Post :
    I just wanted to clarify a misconception I've read in a few posts, both here and at HCW. Facebook was neither issued any statements, nor are they connected with the development and distribution of this application. As it says on the Check It Out page itself "This application was not developed by Facebook."

    Facebook has many application that users can add to their accounts, many of which are developed independently by users or companies.

    Edited to add:
    Here is a link [facebook.com] to the Facebook ToS for applications. I think that Check It Out may be violating a few of their rules; however, I'm not sure. One clause that I think may have been overlooked is: "If your application allows file-sharing, you must adopt and implement an acceptable copyright policy, register an agent with the Copyright Office, and take some other steps, as outlined in the Facebook Platform Developer Copyright Information."
    Given P&G's response to the coupons in general, I wonder if they violated any copyright laws.
    I surely hope that this company, Vyrlmkt, had the authorization. Any number of mfr could come to them saying they unlawfully used product images. From past experience, P&G is not a company you want on your bad side. Neither is the CIC.

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    Old 08-19-2008, 01:26 PM #10
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    I tried 3 different FB Qs today at HT without any trouble at all. I only got a beep when I used a 2nd of one of the Qs. The cashier had to press a button and re-scan and then it went thru.

    I've also tried 1 at Target and 1 at CVS... both required some type of cashier over-ride.
     
    Old 08-19-2008, 01:28 PM #11
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    Old 08-19-2008, 01:30 PM #12
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    I tried 3 different FB Qs today at HT without any trouble at all. I only got a beep when I used a 2nd of one of the Qs. The cashier had to press a button and re-scan and then it went thru.

    I've also tried 1 at Target and 1 at CVS... both required some type of cashier over-ride.
    I think this has been for them to put taxable/non-taxable. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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    Old 08-19-2008, 01:32 PM #13
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    Quote from lpagel View Post :
    I tried 3 different FB Qs today at HT without any trouble at all. I only got a beep when I used a 2nd of one of the Qs. The cashier had to press a button and re-scan and then it went thru.

    I've also tried 1 at Target and 1 at CVS... both required some type of cashier over-ride.
    After reading amit's links to FB, I won't be using the coupons. It's really not worth it.
     
    Old 08-19-2008, 01:34 PM #14
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    Quote from slayers750 View Post :
    Good point made, hopefully everyone does realize that what was meant by Facebook was the company that made the Check it Out app and the marketing company behind it.

    Facebook would be the server like myspace.
    The marketing company and the one that made the Check It Out App are the same, Vyrl Mkt, Inc.

    However, the coupons state to send them to CMS. This is a company that handles the logistics on behalf of Vyrl Mkt, Inc. i.e. they're in charge of redemptions by grocers and the like.

    Facebook and, most likely, the manufacturers did not know about this. So far, I have not heard of any that have said this was a deal they had between their company and Vyrl Mkt, Inc.

    Therefore, to me, it would seem as though Vyrl Mkt, Inc. acted by itself, issued these "fraudulent" (assuming they do not honour the redemptions made by grocers and the like), and would be held liable for the damages.

    So far, what I have seen are statements issued by Vyrl Mkt, Inc. trying to cover their mistakes up with made-up excuses e.g. "hacks", "developmental website" etc. (refer to the other thread).

    I can understand their frustration with the people who managed to make .pdf, but I am glad they issued the statement that: "All the offers that were properly printed through our facebook application can be redeemed. ANY copy of any coupon or anything printed or reproduced from any other source other than through the authorized Facebook application may not be accepted at the register."

    After all of this, I do hope that my grocers are compensated and not given the JJ treatment.
     
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    I know this is off topic but I want to give slayers the much deserved recognition for his role in trying to keep this topic at a level of decency. THANK YOU SLAYERS a job well done.
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