Amazon Warehouse Wii Games (used, like new): Legend of Zelda: Twlight Princess $9.50, Sin and Punishment: Star Successor $6.75, Disney Epic Mickey $12.50 (expired)

Quote from kidicarus89 : What was so bad about SS? I haven't played either one, but everything I heard was that TP was a little too dark and dreary, and SS was more in tone with the old games. I'm debating whether to buy TP or SS, as I really don't have the time to play both.

I'd pick TP if I had a choice. SS was the first LoZ game that felt like work to complete. To each their own I guess, but I just didn't really have any fun playing SS.

Quote from Putts : You seem to be implying that Nintendo designed their game to be played only by people with "years of training". If so, that was a pretty stupid design decision.

No, not really. I'm no ninja and I got through it just fine. My point is that wild flailing is a sure way to get killed. Nintendo made a game where you actually had to remain calm, controlled, and strategic, just like a real swordsman. Which to me is pretty cool.

Quote from Philsaurus : I thought this was a joke at first, but apparently it's very true [wikipedia.org]. It's crazy that they flipped the whole game and couldn't just flip the character model and cut scenes. Either way, this is one of the best games ever, so if you haven't played it, make sure you give it a try.

For TP: The whole fighting system/hit detection/everything was based on the swings coming from the left hand. So therefore it was either redo the engine (and then retest) or just flip the graphics.

As far as SS goes, It's just too much work to get things to register the way the game wants to. I agree that if you do things perfectly the way the game wants to that it works, but when I put that much effort I lose immersion. I really feel that when you leave the confines of on and off buttons with analog joysticks that you give a game way too many possible variables to ever deal with properly. That's why kinnect and wii will never be more than toys.

Quote from coronakid : Skyward Sword was an embarrassment to the entire LoZ franchise. TP wasn't much better. I hate to say but I think the franchise is officially dead.

OOC, which was the last "real" game in your eyes?

Not looking for a nerd fight. Just honestly curious.

Quote from kidicarus89 : What was so bad about SS? I haven't played either one, but everything I heard was that TP was a little too dark and dreary, and SS was more in tone with the old games. I'm debating whether to buy TP or SS, as I really don't have the time to play both.

Personally, I loved both. Some people didn't like the motion controls on SS, while I thought they were the greatest way to play, ever. Some people didn't like how there are only three lands, and they're disconnected, rather than walking through a tunnel in Hyrule field and mysteriously popping out into a desert/ice world/lake. I can understand how they feel, as it's a little different, but not much different from Wind Waker or its DS sequels. Personally, I enjoyed the layout.

That said, TP is also a great game. It's worth playing for the Wild West shootout setpiece and horseback fights alone. The world is gigantic, if you like that sort of thing. It certainly is a bit more dark and gritty, unlike the more cartoony LttP or WW. But it's not like it's Zelda: Gears of War where Link goes around dismembering people, bro-fist bumping, and cursing up a storm.

Quote from coronakid : Skyward Sword was an embarrassment to the entire LoZ franchise. TP wasn't much better. I hate to say but I think the franchise is officially dead.

I do agree that both games were a let-down in comparison to what had come before them. That being said, I'm afraid the franchise is far from dead. Let's just hope they don't continue down the same path of relentless hand-holding and mediocrity.

Quote from Putts : I felt just the opposite...Skyward Sword's motion controls came across as extremely gimmicky, while Twilight Princess's were seamless and intuitive. Skyward Sword had a lot of issues, including your sword never pointing or swinging the way that you wanted it to, and constantly needing to recenter your targeting reticule. Twilight Princess had a very traditional Zelda button layout, with the sword button being replaced by shaking the Wiimote and the spin attack replaced by the Nunchuck. Aiming and targeting was reliable and precise, due to the fact that they used the sensor bar instead of Motion+. Yes, there were flaws with Twilight Princess's motion controls, but the game was not designed to be dependent on using motion controls. Skyward Sword had flawed motion controls and the game was designed to use them in order to beat it.

Strange. I never really encountered any of those issues in SS. I thought the use of motion plus overall was very creative and generally well-implemented.

What bothered me was the relentless hand-holding, gameplay repetition and thoroughly vapid plot.

Quote from nojmplease : Strange. I never really encountered any of those issues in SS. I thought the use of motion plus overall was very creative and generally well-implemented. What bothered me was the relentless hand-holding, gameplay repetition and thoroughly vapid plot.

Thanks OP, i picked up Epic Mickey. I just started SS and Ive only heard great things about it. Twilight Princess was a phenomenal game.

all 3 back in stock

Just got my copy of Twilight Princess... it came brand new...sealed and everything in it...tremendous find! Thanks to the OP!

Yeah my copy of TP looks brand new too. It's got the Y-fold shrink wrap on it!


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Well I guess it's not new. There is a "Used-Like New" sticker over the upc but under the shrink wrap. Coulda fooled me.