Apple iPod Touch 4th Generation (Refurbished, White or Black): 64GB $229, 32GB $179, 8GB $129 + Free Shipping (expired)

Quote from mandangolo : Recommend me an android smartphone that can run Amplitube, Garage Band, Rebirth, SFIV Volt, Galaxy on Fire 2, Facetime, Animoog, iTunes U, Pages, and Infinity Blade 2, and then i'll consider your recommendation.

Come on, for kids a used smartphone is a lot better deal and apps are cheaper, many are free. And if the battery dies it costs less than $5 for a new one and there is expandable memory. I'm not going to check all those apps, but how many are requirements for the average 10 year old? My ten year old is playing most of the angry birds games. Even my 13 year old who has a keyboard phone which even takes a 16 gig micro SD card and has a replaceable battery, would like a non activated smart phone for games and movies. HDMI out for $45? Is this still a bargain site?

A used smartphone can do everything your smartphone can do but make calls and I bet you can make call on skype, maybe google voice. It just works for them on wifi. I know they can text if they have a wifi connection. And the GPS units still work! You can actually use the GPS without cell service. Think of all your smartphone can do, your kid can do almost all those things on wifi.

Quote from vijayansn : Ordered one 32 gb black ipod.....called the Apple Customer care and told that i need to cancel the order since I told her I recieved the Discover card after ordering the ipod and I want to reorder with the discover card.. she gave an offer that i cannot refuse...got a belkin ipod touch case worth $30 for free....so 190$-$30=160$.....i am gonna love my ipod touch..

Nooo.. $190 + a free "$30" case you probably wouldn't have bought, still costs you $190.

Quote from clearanceman : Come on, for kids a used smartphone is a lot better deal and apps are cheaper, many are free. And if the battery dies it costs less than $5 for a new one and there is expandable memory. I'm not going to check all those apps, but how many are requirements for the average 10 year old? My ten year old is playing most of the angry birds games. Even my 13 year old who has a keyboard phone which even takes a 16 gig micro SD card and has a replaceable battery, would like a non activated smart phone for games and movies. HDMI out for $45? Is this still a bargain site? A used smartphone can do everything your smartphone can do but make calls and I bet you can make call on skype, maybe google voice. It just works for them on wifi. I know they can text if they have a wifi connection. And the GPS units still work! You can actually use the GPS without cell service. Think of all your smartphone can do, your kid can do almost all those things on wifi.

Hmmmm.... you've got me thinking on this. I bought three of these ipods for the kids, but this is a better option. Plus, since they are middle school age it would give them the option to convert it to a prepaid cell plan IF I get the right phone. Any tips on phones to get, or how I'd know which ones are prepaid compatible and cheaper than this ipod?

I bought a reconditioned Ipod touch from Apple 3 or 5 yrs ago and it still works in perfect condition. it came in a box with everything a new store purchase would come with. I have been told Apple will sell old stock (older generations) as reconditioned because they don't put their models on sale so they call the older models reconditioned???? I do not know this as fact but I love mine

Quote from Brandytab : Hmmmm.... you've got me thinking on this. I bought three of these ipods for the kids, but this is a better option. Plus, since they are middle school age it would give them the option to convert it to a prepaid cell plan IF I get the right phone. Any tips on phones to get, or how I'd know which ones are prepaid compatible and cheaper than this ipod?

I got the viper off ebay but the HTCs came from cowboom and were featured on here (FP deal). They are definitely around, the Viper was under $100 in brand new condition on Ebay but Cowboom has some better deals on a regular basis. Just figure out what features you want.

It takes a little research on assigning the phones to carriers down the road, I know people do it because some of the phones on Ebay even with bad ESNs say they can be flashed to pre paid/other carriers. I'm not up on the details of all of it because I'm too cheap to use a smartphone on a plan myself. I just went the smartphone as replacement for android player route after I discovered the hard way that my son's iPod Touch was disposable. A smartphone also has a better processor than an android player.

I actually tried to fix his iPod Touch first. I bought a battery and took it apart which is hard. I tried to solder in a new battery which is also hard, it's three tiny connectors. It failed. So I bought him an iPod touch with a bad home button and changed the digitizer with home button myself which was not super hard but tricky. It didn't fix it, the defect was probably in the main board and an iPod Touch with no home button is worthless to use.

So I went the Smartphone route Especially nice are free android apps and 25 cent sale apps. My 13 old spent a couple hundred dollars at the iTunes store, this saves him a lot of money.

Quote from Brandytab : Hmmmm.... you've got me thinking on this. I bought three of these ipods for the kids, but this is a better option. Plus, since they are middle school age it would give them the option to convert it to a prepaid cell plan IF I get the right phone. Any tips on phones to get, or how I'd know which ones are prepaid compatible and cheaper than this ipod?

Wish I would have thought of that, too. I splurged on three of these 8 GB version for my kids for Christmas. We don't have any other Apple products, either, so unfort it opens up another ecosystem in which to spend money. I guess if it doesn't work out I could resell these for a decent price.

Will the 8 GB suffice? Right now my kids have Sansa mp3 players and I only dumped about 100 songs on them. It drives me nuts Apple charges so much for a memory dump when expansion cards are so cheap.

Quote from kukblue1 : Do these have FM radio built in. I guess I could just use i heart radio app.

what is this FM radio you speak of?

Quote from sigpop : Wish I would have thought of that, too. I splurged on three of these 8 GB version for my kids for Christmas. We don't have any other Apple products, either, so unfort it opens up another ecosystem in which to spend money. I guess if it doesn't work out I could resell these for a decent price. Will the 8 GB suffice? Right now my kids have Sansa mp3 players and I only dumped about 100 songs on them. It drives me nuts Apple charges so much for a memory dump when expansion cards are so cheap.

Yeah, every android phone has a micro SD slot than can take 32 gigs. I paid $5 for my last 16 gig card (FP on here) but they are $7 on ebay all the time. Some of the phones come with 8 gigs built in too, and all have at least 2-4 built in plus the SD slot.

8 gigs is ok for awhile, they'll fill it up, I know my 13 year old was bumping the memory limit on a regular basis before his battery died. He just had an 8 gig.

can someone give one specific example of a smart phone scenerio? I was looking on CL after seeing the post last night and all I was seeing was used phones for $100 or more, usually closer to $200 and there is no guarantee I am not being sold a paperweight.

Quote from myhouseofboys : can someone give one specific example of a smart phone scenerio? I was looking on CL after seeing the post last night and all I was seeing was used phones for $100 or more, usually closer to $200 and there is no guarantee I am not being sold a paperweight.

Again, figure out which phone you want and check ebay and the Cowboom threads on here. You can search Cowboom phone and see the threads. I see an HTC droid incredible for $59 right now in the threads. You'll have to do research, what condition you want, your plans for the phone. For example, if it is going to be flashed it could have a bad ESN or if it is never going to be used as a phone. The Cowboom phones seem to all have good ESNs, it doesn't matter to me but it might to you if you plan to use it as a phone on a regular service in the future.

On Ebay, a Samsung Galaxy III S is going to be over $150 but a Viper which is great for a kid is under $100 even in near perfect condition. Consumer Reports has a list of top rated phones, you can compare that list to prices on Ebay. If you aren't using it as a phone, it doesn't matter which carrier. All my kids have Sprint phones but our actual phones are US Cellular.

Cowboom lists condition but it depends. I got two grade 5 phones and they look really good. YMMV, if you want it to look new, Ebay is probably the way to go. When I did my search, I found the LG Viper is one of the best deals for the money on Ebay. It only has 2 gigs built in but can take up to a 32 gig micro SD card.

Some guys are even changing operating systems and changing the programming but this is beyond me. I do think it' s interesting that the GPS can work without cell service. A portable GPS is about $60 on it's own. There are sites that talk about what to download, free apps to use for the GPS geo-caching, maps, etc.

Quote from jteslik : I always said that if Zune supported FLAC, it wouldn't have failed in such spectacular fashion. Someone needs to make a portable music player for the audiophile. It's an awesome niche market.

Get a Cowon S9. They are probably one of the best you can get that supports FLAC as well as OGG and it IS an audiophiles portable player.

Unable to add white to my cart (tried different browsers, locations, operating systems), so I am guessing they are out of white?

Got my shipping notice, Will be here in 6 days! Shipped from China....

Just got my shipping confirmation. Coming direct from Shenzen China.

Quote from bru20 : Reading these posts makes me wonder if my 4.5 yo son is stunted in his development. He doesn't know what and iPod or iPad is. He plays with Thomas the train and other engines and his toy cars and reads books (well looks at the pictures). How would I even introduce him to these gadgets?

He'll probably be able to figure it out .. interesting article http://www.projectpanafrica.org/2...ng-report/