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can someone talk me out of the Sony NEX-5R?
Indoors, I have found that the Canon produces better, more accurate portrait shots than the NEX 5R, which tends to overcompensate/undercompensate for lighting, leaving you with indoor shots that seem unnatural without further processing. This is just my personal experience (I sold a T3i for a 5R). Also, with the Canon, use the 'Portrait' mode and its pretty much auto; takes spectacular baby photos every single time. Portrait mode shots with the NEX aren't as reliable. You also have more (and cheaper) options for mounting external flash with the Canon. You can get a decent TTL flash for $100. With the NEX, a flash upgrade gives you only one option, and that option is notorious for quitting on you within a few months. Lens options are much more varied with the Canon as well. I also find the Canon kit lens to be better quality than that of the NEX. You're also not going to get much more portability with the 18-55 on the NEX 5R, unless you use the 16mm or get the expensive 16-50mm (might as well get the NEX-6). The 16mm has no zoom, so you will need to do a lot more walking back and forth. Also, using the viewfinder will give you much more steady shots.
For NEX:
I find video autofocus much better on the NEX, and I find myself shooting so much more HD video now. When we ask people to take our pictures on vacation, they are much more comfortable with live-view than using the optical viewfinder, but live-view on the T4i is rather slow. If you are OK with losing zoom, the 16mm makes the NEX much more compact than the T4i, meaning you are also more likely to use it in more places (and be able to find room for it in your diaper bag). One more thing going for the NEX is dashing good looks - the T4i looks drab in comparison (though some would say more professional).
In conclusion, having had the NEX for a while now, I'm finding it to be somewhat of an odd choice. Neither is it compact enough to fit in your pocket, nor does it have the lens/accessory eco-system that leads you to consider upgrading from a compact to an interchangeable lens format.
If you are not looking into upgrading lenses down the line, I would seriously consider the RX100. It is immensely more pocket-able than the NEX, and has better optics than the kit NEX lens. The only thing it is probably not well-suited for is telephoto shots. If you are looking for a more expandable option, I would choose the T4i over the NEX.
Appreciate it! I want the 55-250 lens and by selling everything else it would be a great deal, just worried it would be in pieces!
In any case, the D5200 is $900 with ONE lens right now. This is $700 for TWO lenses, you can very likely get $150 for the 55-250mm (although it's a great lightweight zoom lens, I'd keep it unless you have something better). That makes the body+lens price of the T4i $550!
$550 vs. $900. Yes the D5200 is better, it's also $350 more, Personally, I would get the T4i, if I could get the D5200 for $100 more than the T4i, it would be a tougher decision.
Also, are you planning on shooting a lot of video? Canon's STM lenses are probably more suited for video than whatever Nikon has available right now. Just another point to consider.
At the end of the day, you're buying into a system, whether that's Canon or Nikon. Each will take turns having the "best" camera at a given price point, but what's far more important is which system you buy into. Once you have a collection of lenses, switching brands is more difficult. How much money are you planning on spending? In general, IMO, Canon traditionally offered better value for money as their lenses generally sell for a bit less than Nikon (usually around 20% less), although this may change with Canon's updated pricing policy. Canon also typically manufactures lenses in Japan, Malaysia or Taiwan. Nikon lenses usually come from Japan, Thailand or China, but have a 5-year warranty vs. Canon's 1-year, and also include a bag and lens hood (I almost never use the individual lens bags, and aftermarket hoods are dirt cheap) ... so Nikon gives you more stuff but charges a bit more and arguably has cheaper manufacturing costs. Traditionally, Canon has had a better lineup of zoom lenses, while Nikon has had a better lineup of landscape lenses. Each system has lenses at given price-points that the other doesn't have. Nikon offers a fantastic 35mm f/1.8 prime lens for around $200 whereas Canon has nothing like it. Canon offers the 70-200mm F4L zoom lens for around $600 whereas Nikon has nothing like it. Camera bodies always lose value quickly, lenses typically do not.
I don't think you can go wrong with either the D5200 or the T4i. Given the price difference I'd get the T4i. If the D5200 was FP on SD, then I would probably lean the other way. They're both great cameras.
At this price you could try it out and likely sell it if you wanted to change your mind. It's almost inevitable that the D5200 will see some major price drops in the upcoming months (For reference D3200 was released around $750 I believe, and after a few months was selling at $599). T4i might have also originally been $899, if I remember correctly. Since the D5200 is a bit better on paper, we'll probably continue to see T4i deals ... competition is good for the consumer! Both likely take excellent pictures (I haven't used either, but have used the D5100 and T3i extensively, pros and cons to each brand, they're far more similar than they are different).
Each time I was able to get $150ish for it, but sometimes if there a lot of bundle deals, it helps to wait for some of the aftermarket inventory to clear out
In any case, the D5200 is $900 with ONE lens right now. This is $700 for TWO lenses, you can very likely get $150 for the 55-250mm (although it's a great lightweight zoom lens, I'd keep it unless you have something better). That makes the body+lens price of the T4i $550!
$550 vs. $900. Yes the D5200 is better, it's also $350 more, Personally, I would get the T4i, if I could get the D5200 for $100 more than the T4i, it would be a tougher decision.
Also, are you planning on shooting a lot of video? Canon's STM lenses are probably more suited for video than whatever Nikon has available right now. Just another point to consider.
At the end of the day, you're buying into a system, whether that's Canon or Nikon. Each will take turns having the "best" camera at a given price point, but what's far more important is which system you buy into. Once you have a collection of lenses, switching brands is more difficult.
I don't think you can go wrong with either the D5200 or the T4i. Given the price difference I'd get the T4i. If the D5200 was FP on SD, then I would probably lean the other way. They're both great cameras.
At this price you could try it out and likely sell it if you wanted to change your mind. It's almost inevitable that the D5200 will see some major price drops in the upcoming months (For reference D3200 was released around $750 I believe, and after a few months was selling at $599). T4i might have also originally been $899.
The 18-55mm will probably be in a single box with the T4i. I purchased two T3i's last year. One had the lens in the same box, one had separate boxes. In both cases the 55-250mm that came in the bundle was always boxed on its own (retail box) which made selling it much easier
Each time I was able to get $150ish for it, but sometimes if there a lot of bundle deals, it helps to wait for some of the aftermarket inventory to clear out
And that's very true - I saw some multiple purchases so things might be flooded for a while.
Indoors, I have found that the Canon produces better, more accurate portrait shots than the NEX 5R, which tends to overcompensate/undercompensate for lighting, leaving you with indoor shots that seem unnatural without further processing. This is just my personal experience (I sold a T3i for a 5R). Also, with the Canon, use the 'Portrait' mode and its pretty much auto; takes spectacular baby photos every single time. Portrait mode shots with the NEX aren't as reliable. You also have more (and cheaper) options for mounting external flash with the Canon. You can get a decent TTL flash for $100. With the NEX, a flash upgrade gives you only one option, and that option is notorious for quitting on you within a few months. Lens options are much more varied with the Canon as well. I also find the Canon kit lens to be better quality than that of the NEX. You're also not going to get much more portability with the 18-55 on the NEX 5R, unless you use the 16mm or get the expensive 16-50mm (might as well get the NEX-6). The 16mm has no zoom, so you will need to do a lot more walking back and forth. Also, using the viewfinder will give you much more steady shots.
For NEX:
I find video autofocus much better on the NEX, and I find myself shooting so much more HD video now. When we ask people to take our pictures on vacation, they are much more comfortable with live-view than using the optical viewfinder, but live-view on the T4i is rather slow. If you are OK with losing zoom, the 16mm makes the NEX much more compact than the T4i, meaning you are also more likely to use it in more places (and be able to find room for it in your diaper bag). One more thing going for the NEX is dashing good looks - the T4i looks drab in comparison (though some would say more professional).
In conclusion, having had the NEX for a while now, I'm finding it to be somewhat of an odd choice. Neither is it compact enough to fit in your pocket, nor does it have the lens/accessory eco-system that leads you to consider upgrading from a compact to an interchangeable lens format.
If you are not looking into upgrading lenses down the line, I would seriously consider the RX100. It is immensely more pocket-able than the NEX, and has better optics than the kit NEX lens. The only thing it is probably not well-suited for is telephoto shots. If you are looking for a more expandable option, I would choose the T4i over the NEX.
I agree, if you want something portable/pocketable, get the RX100. If you want to change lenses and think you'll invest in a system over time, get a DSLR. Eventually, it's likely you might end up with both!
For stunning portraits/baby pictures, get a lens with a nice wide aperture for the Canon if you can. For a beginner I'd suggest 50mm f/1.8. For about $120 you'll be able to take stunning portraits!
Sandisk Ultra offers very good bang for the buck. Pick up a Sandisk Extreme if you're feeling spendy.
Honestly, you've just spent $699 on a camera kit. Whether you spend $10, $20, or $30 on the card shouldn't be a huge factor.
Best price/performance value IMO, Sandisk Extreme 32GB. Low $30s from Amazon:
Sandisk 32GB [amazon.com]