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Porter Cable® 20-Volt Lithium-Ion Cordless 16-Gauge Straight Finish Nailer Kit $149 at Menards

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I was shopping around for a finish nailer and came across this deal at Menards, seems to be about $50 cheaper than anywhere else.

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Interesting option at about the same price as a compressor and air nailer. But while losing the hose, it adds quite a bit of bulk to the nailer itself. Until they can figure out how to make these smaller, I will stick with my air tools.
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Interesting option at about the same price as a compressor and air nailer. But while losing the hose, it adds quite a bit of bulk to the nailer itself. Until they can figure out how to make these smaller, I will stick with my air tools.
​I was concerned about the bulk too although listed weight is around 6 lbs and the reviews I found state it's not much of an issue. I'll post some feedback when I pick it up tomorrow.
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Interesting option at about the same price as a compressor and air nailer. But while losing the hose, it adds quite a bit of bulk to the nailer itself. Until they can figure out how to make these smaller, I will stick with my air tools.
Bulk? Lift weights Grandpa, you can do it.
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Bulk? Lift weights Grandpa, you can do it.
It isn't just the weight, but more so the increased size. And no matter how much time you spend at the gym, repetitive tasks are easier with smaller and lighter tools that are easier to wield. Even you must have noticed the increasing popularity of 12v tools because they are much smaller and lighter than their 18/20v alternatives.

With these 18/20v battery nailers there is a trade off between losing the hose and increasing the size/weight of the tool.
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So I just bought this when it went on sale at Lowes like a month ago. I used it use a Craftsman prad/staple gun that the internal cylinder was plastic and literally exploded, then a Porter Cable brad nailer that someone borrowed with my compressor but didn't give back.

My impression is that this is a great tool. It's super easy to setup and the battery seems to last a long time. I am currently building custom cabinets for my master closet, and have been using this to put together the drawers for it.

One thing that took me a while to get used to is that it's not an instant nail when you pull the trigger. Basically I think it has a built-in mini-compressor that charges when you press the trigger then shoots the nail. I am guessing it has to get enough pressure to do so, so there is a slight delay. Also, there is a trigger lock on the tool that took me a while to figure out. Thought it was broken when I first opened it.

Here are my thoughts:

Pros:
- Battery seems to last a while, plus I have other PC tools that use the exact same battery so it works out well
- Way easier to setup than my previous compressor-driven guns. Just plug in the battery and you are good to go. No need to charge your compressor.
- WAY more portable than a compressor, hose, and gun.
- No sudden startles when the compressor has to kick in after you have used it a bit.
- No need to find a 20a plug if you have a larger compressor (which I do)
- Seems to be well made, although I haven't dropped mine or anything

Cons:
- There IS a delay when you shoot a nail, which takes some getting used to
- I don't think it has a multi-shot mode, but I never used this before
- The gun itself is heavier than the compressor models, but I didn't find it unusable

Hope this helps if anyone is on the fence.

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It isn't just the weight, but more so the increased size. And no matter how much time you spend at the gym, repetitive tasks are easier with smaller and lighter tools that are easier to wield. Even you must have noticed the increasing popularity of 12v tools because they are much smaller and lighter than their 18/20v alternatives.

With these 18/20v battery nailers there is a trade off between losing the hose and increasing the size/weight of the tool.
Li batteries are considerably lighter than their alternative battery brethren. I didn't think this tool was so heavy as to be unusable, and most people don't us a brad nailer more than a few times, so repetitive stress seems like a stretch IMHO. Even if you are a cabinet maker or install trim you probably use it maybe a 100x a day on a good day? And if you do that you are probably not in the market for a cordless/hoseless tool.
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So I just bought this when it went on sale at Lowes like a month ago. I used it use a Craftsman prad/staple gun that the internal cylinder was plastic and literally exploded, then a Porter Cable brad nailer that someone borrowed with my compressor but didn't give back.

My impression is that this is a great tool. It's super easy to setup and the battery seems to last a long time. I am currently building custom cabinets for my master closet, and have been using this to put together the drawers for it.

One thing that took me a while to get used to is that it's not an instant nail when you pull the trigger. Basically I think it has a built-in mini-compressor that charges when you press the trigger then shoots the nail. I am guessing it has to get enough pressure to do so, so there is a slight delay. Also, there is a trigger lock on the tool that took me a while to figure out. Thought it was broken when I first opened it.

Here are my thoughts:

Pros:
- Battery seems to last a while, plus I have other PC tools that use the exact same battery so it works out well
- Way easier to setup than my previous compressor-driven guns. Just plug in the battery and you are good to go. No need to charge your compressor.
- WAY more portable than a compressor, hose, and gun.
- No sudden startles when the compressor has to kick in after you have used it a bit.
- No need to find a 20a plug if you have a larger compressor (which I do)
- Seems to be well made, although I haven't dropped mine or anything

Cons:
- There IS a delay when you shoot a nail, which takes some getting used to
- I don't think it has a multi-shot mode, but I never used this before
- The gun itself is heavier than the compressor models, but I didn't find it unusable

Hope this helps if anyone is on the fence.



Li batteries are considerably lighter than their alternative battery brethren. I didn't think this tool was so heavy as to be unusable, and most people don't us a brad nailer more than a few times, so repetitive stress seems like a stretch IMHO. Even if you are a cabinet maker or install trim you probably use it maybe a 100x a day on a good day? And if you do that you are probably not in the market for a cordless/hoseless tool.
​Thanks for the post! This put me at ease regarding some potential issues. Looking forward to using it.
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Li batteries are considerably lighter than their alternative battery brethren. I didn't think this tool was so heavy as to be unusable, and most people don't us a brad nailer more than a few times, so repetitive stress seems like a stretch IMHO. Even if you are a cabinet maker or install trim you probably use it maybe a 100x a day on a good day? And if you do that you are probably not in the market for a cordless/hoseless tool.
I apologize if my previous posts gave the impression that I thought it's bulk made it unusable, as that is far from the case. I was simply making a comparison to standard air tools and pointing out the trade-off in bulk versus dealing with an air hose. For me, with a small compressor in the next room and a nice flexible hose, I don't see much advantage to switching to this battery option given the disadvantages of size, weight, and wait.

But if someone doesn't already have a nice little compressor option, then they might want to consider a battery option while being realistic about its positives and negatives versus the alternative.
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Picked it up last night, can confirm weight is not an issue, it seems just a powerful as a pneumatic gun too. For occasional use, I am glad I got this over a gun and compressor.
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I apologize if my previous posts gave the impression that I thought it's bulk made it unusable, as that is far from the case...
No worries! Some people are not going to like the extra weight and bulk. So far for me it hasn't been an issue, but I am a casual user when I work on projects, so it's worth it to me to not have to fiddle w/ the compressor and running hoses everywhere.
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Weight doesn't bother me with this. Works like a charm.
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This is an old thread, but the price is still available. Cheaper than Amazon by $80. Cheaper than Lowe's by $100. Thanks OP!
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